rescan and determine whether or not there is any remaining contamination left in parcel a. parcel a, as you recall, was release inside 2004 and has been developed since 2012. we are not oversight role anymore from parcel a, but, if the scanning results from california department of public-health shows that there is contamination left at this parcel, then both the dtfc and ucepa will have to decide what additional testing or mediation needs to be done. at that point, we will become the oversight agency. >> president cohen: as of right now, you are not the lead agency? right? i'm just trying to understand exactly. >> i'm sorry. it's a little complicated. the lead agency for the clean up is the department of navy.

>> president cohen: yes, i understand that. i want to know your role. you say you are in collaboration. you are not doing anything. the other agencies are doing the analysis. what is your role? >> so our role is we have expertise in chemical contamination. >> president cohen: this area of expertise, how does it help with the -- with the over all clean up of the shipyard? >> so, hunters point was not only contaminated with radio logical matters. it has contamination of all kinds of different chemicals. dtsc experts looked over the clean up of all other contaminations and then only with restrict to radiological matters, we relied on california department of public-health. >> president cohen: thank you, that clarifies. >> sorry. i didn't understand your question. i thought you were still focusing on radiological. >> president cohen: there are many things that are associated

with the contamination of the shipyard. radio logical, which is the focal point. your agency, that you represent, is responsible for other chemicals, for lack of a better way to describe it? >> i apologize again. clarify. the navy is the lead agency responsible for clean up of all contamination. chemical, radiological, everything else. our department as a state oversight, has expertise on chemical waste. we oversee all the work that the navy does in terms of cleaning up chemical waste. we use our contractor, california department of public-health, to oversee the radiological clean up of the site. so we do have oversight for all the clean up, except our

department doesn't have the expertise on radiological. >> president cohen: i understand. what is it that you will review with the department of public-health? >> with respect to parcel g or a? >> president cohen: parcel a. >> parcel a is only being evaluated by california department of public-health. >> president cohen: as it relates -- i don't know what that means. a cheerleader? >> we think it's a go ahead approach because there were concerns expressed by the residents and by going back and retesting it, it will provide information to either prove or disprove that there was contamination left. >> president cohen: parcel g? >> parcel g is a complete retesting of all the areas that tetratech conducted sampling. our role is to make sure that the retesting is conducted,

consistent with the work plan that is now being revised and released at the end of the month. >> president cohen: and so, what will you be reviewing with public-health? >> so the department of public-health will be our agent for addressing the radio nucli and they could be being split samples along with the navy so that they can they can analyze the analysis is done properly. we've also considered and recommended having a third party oversight that the navy apparently going to bring on board to have another contractor oversee the work of their contractor to make sure they're also following up. our role is to make sure what they have indicated in the work plan will be done. for example, if they said they would be testing all the soil in

the trenching in this area, my staff will be out there, california public-health staff will be out there and usepa will be out there, to make sure they were taking samples from the areas they were supposed to. >> president cohen: will your staff be doing any testing on the chemical waste? or is it just an oversight, making sure that collection of the samples are done? >> if there is new discoveries that there's additional chemical contamination that hasn't been already addressed, yes, it will be doing that? at this point, the chemical contamination was addressed. >> president cohen: my final question is, what are the next steps for your agency in relation to the work plan and the monitoring process? >> what are the next steps for you. >> after it's released we'll comment back to the navy whether it has incorporated all of our comments in the work plan or not. if it has, we will be giving the

groner light to go forward with the testing to ensure that there is no further contamination left. >> president cohen: how many comments have you submitted so far to the draft form? >> we submitted -- i don't remember exactly the number of pages. we had ttsc's comments on the cover and a memo from california department of public-health attached to our comment ler. i think it was in the 20 to 30 pages long. >> president cohen: are you in agreement with that, janet? >> ok. >> president cohen: thank you. i hope you feel better. i appreciate your answering the questions. >> thank you very much. >> president cohen: the next speaker from the california department of public-health. mark star. the deputy director for environmental health. he has, on his team, anthony chew, his chief, the division of radiation safety and environmental management and also dale sureknack, who does

public affairs. good to see you. >> thank you so much, president cohen for in invited us here today and we're happy to give you an update on our parcel a and we can answer the questions. i'll be begin with closure and i spend my time on parcel a and find preliminary and the up-to-date numbers from the work we're doing there. our department has a role in overseeing the safe use of materials in california in general and this includes medical uses and such as diagnostic x-rays, ct scans, training the staff that handle those, things like that. there's cancer treatment and many areas we oversee but also industrial uses, research uses

and and others. it's a important component of our department public-health protection programs. you just heard from mr. nazimi, because of the skills set and expertise, they contract with the department. because they're the lead agency reviewing d.o.d. clean up activities for the state. and we are able to provide the expertise for the radio logic aspects of the activities at military sites for transfer to civilian use. >> you asked our role. our department is in this capacity that dtsc contracts for and we're both consultative and regulatory. we do review of the radiologic clean up work. we look at the plans for clean up. the work plans as you've just been discussing for parcel g, we're part of the process of commenting on the work plans. we'll analyze the survey data as

it's the processes underway. we occasionally do confirm tory surveys and our own sampling. split samples. our lab in richmond does that work. we also review the conditions, if there's a limited release, we review the conditions of the release of the property. and we license entries. it's including workers at the sites. our purpose with the contractors is to oversee worker safety as well as public-health and safety and the work that they do. specifically for parcel. i won't repeat those. you know them better than i do. but because of our expertise, as we've discussed, we've identified for the request to do a health and safety scan of

parcel a one based on the concerns raised by residents and others about information at hunters point in general. we have experience with other health and safety surveys and we will fulfill the need for an independent entity to conduct such a survey. we will undertake the survey and the navy is funding the project. so specifically, our work lan for parcel a-1 focuses on three critical areas. the first one is to detector assess the possibility of any radiation from something in the soil. it could still be there or may have been introduced at some point. the radiation survey is what we're doing and it's the most appropriate approach for a health and safety survey like. this health and beta radiation don't penetrate soil. the outdoor areas that are uncover ground has been our primary focus or those that have limited cover. there's landscaping, there's

sidewalks, there's asphalt, things like that. they are more likely to have detectable substances than areas with a thick foundation and gravel. we have focused on those areas to date. because we're more likely to find something there and those soils are generally representative of the site as a whole. lastly, our concern is the safety of the residents. this is based on the potential that there could be exposure to residents and so we're assessing that site for gamma radiation using a scan to see if there's direct exposure to humans and the environment beyond normal background levels. the way our work plan works, is when the radiation measurement higher than background is found, the location is documented and investigated by conducting supplemental measurements. we use two other instruments held over the spot for 30 minutes or more and we determine what that radiation is and what the isotope is that is buried

there and whether it's naturally occurring. we confirmed that elevated levels, any confirmed elevated levels that are not natural materials result in notification of all the involved agencies that you've heard from. >> president cohen: let's back up. it involves notification to all the involved agencies. what about the notification to the community offer to your government partners? me? >> that's coming up. >> president cohen: got it. >> so we coordinate on a response action. as i'll get to, the deck marker is a good example of that particular process. but first, i want to mention since our scan began on july 16th. we used two devices, one that is over a large, flat area. we also have used walk-over surveys for areas that we can't access with a vehicle. we're just about -- we completed the part, the analysis is almost done and as you heard earlier,

we're close to 95% done with the walk-over survey. we've just added the construction areas. and so that adds a little bit more time. we expect to be done this week. so we have work with the homeowners association and you asked about notifications and based on resident requests, we have expanded our original work plan. we scanned outdoor private areas between residential units. we've scanned the slopes going down from the residential areas, which is fill-up material that is uncover. it's useful to scan that. we did the large soil pile at the southwestern edge of the parcel. to date, all of these have been completed. we'll be offering windowsill dust testing as well to residents. so far we have 87 natural occurring anomalies.

42 of those were from the walk-over survey and 45 from the tow to ray. that's brand new information we'll put in our weekly update for the residents. we initiated the work-plan protocol and identified all 87 of those as being potassium 40, a natural-occurring isotope and it's been around us since the solar system is formed and it's in our bodies. in addition, we detected one naval radio containing deck marker as you've heard about on september 7ing, the location was the bottom of the hill and in an undeveloped area you heard the navy contractor removed that is when something is a man made substance we would bring in the other agencies and the contractor. we opened the process.

the object was about 10 inches of soil and the hole was scanned in order to demonstrate that there was no other contamination around it in the soil, the marker and removed. specifically, about that, we're asked to provide a little information on the findings of that specific marker and the hazards. the surface level removal of the marker. it's about 1/15th of that amount in an hour. it's about 1/15th of what someone would get if a single dental x-ray. someone would have had to sit on the spot for 15 hours just to get radiation equipment to one

dental x-ray. anybody more than a meter away from the spot would not have received any exposure above background. so getting to your question, it took me a while. to keep residents we provide. we don't have all the data analyzed so the final report will be available in late fall. but we, every step of the way, understand the residents desire to be informed of our scanning and what we are up to and have had questions related to radiation and to that end, we have let several homeowners and we began on july 5th. we wanted to prioritize this for the residents and they're our primary concern. we also, most recently, had one

on september 19th. which was about the deck marker and explaining what it was, what we found, what it means comparisons to the radiation that we all get every day around us. that is how we have been communicating with residents. we also have a website where all the documents are posted and the progress reports. we have an e-mail that we accept questions and respond to and we continue to accept and respond input throughout so we adjust our work plan based on that input as we've already done. we will be doing so as we start scanning parcel a2 in a short while. lastly, i just want to say is we continue to coordinate with all the involved agencies, including your own san francisco department of public-health and office of community investment and infrastructure, as well as the state and federal partners that you will be hearing from here today. >> president cohen: thank you,

mr. star. i appreciate your presentation. your presentation was mostly focused on parcel a-1. i was wondering, i would like to hear your plans for parcel g. >> we'll be hearing from e.p.a., the three mond tory agencies. i coordinated on our comments that you just heard, we were part of that and we're expecting and the navy has agreed to incorporate those comments in the work plan and we will see the revised work plan at end of the month. our role, you know, these are two quite different situations as i'm sure you have gathered, parcel a was release aid long time ago and people are living there. what we're doing is health and safety scan, which we have done in other areas in order to see if there could be something there that could potentially expos residents. at the rest of d.o.d. sites and

hunters point, we look at the work plan and the data and after the work plan is underway. we will do some of our own surveys if necessary. to really important. that people have been receptive to and opened to receive your feedback. specifically, i'd like you to take a couple minutes to talk to us about how does radio activity really work? now, please, don't go into a full-on 40-minute lecture but maybe you can just give us a primary level of how radio activity works? >> how did you know, i had a power point right here.

so, it's cosmic rays, you've heard about airline flights and being exposed. those are cosmic rays. there's a number of natural isotopes, po tas see yum 40 and there's a lot of natural radioactive substances that people could potentially be exposed to in certain situations. and the concern is that it can be gamma rays or x-rays and any of those cases, ionid and for humans it means damage to d.n.a. or other important molecules in our body and mutations or cancer can result as one of the most

common concerns with radiation. >> president cohen: thank you. i don't have any questions. i'll turn to my colleagues to see if they have any questions. doesn't look like there are. i appreciate your presentation. next we will hear from the e.p.a. the environmental protection agency. i think we have enrique, john, kelly, maria. welcome back. >> good afternoon, president cohen, supervisors, thank you for this opportunity to present to your meeting here today. i am the director of the addition of the u.s. environmental protections agencies regional office here in san francisco. i'm joined here by my colleague- >> please continue. >> sure. >> i'm joined here by john chestnut, and lilly lee, the

remedial project manager for the hunters point site. the public's concerns are important to us. we take them seriously. as such, this site remains a high priority to b.p.a. region nine. we have assembled a team of national experts on radiological clean up to advise us and provide technical expertise. all this in fulfillment of our over site role. that is our role here is to oversee the work that the navy is conducting. you have already heard from the navy. the lead on the clean up at the hunters point site. e.p.a. and the state of california have been overseeing the navy's radiological work to ensure the safety of the surrounding communities for the past decade. long-term radiological monitoring by various parties of groundwater, ground surfaces have shown no exceedance of third party contractors

routinely conduct in-person observations of the current radiological clean up work. in response to the discoveries about the data, e.p.a. is part of the clean up team with the state and the navy has been actively involved in the development of the new work plans of the uncertainty of the site and reassure the residents of their safety. we have stepped up tour over site activities at the site as well and planned to have staff on site during the plan retesting. we will take samples to ensure the integrity of the data and restore public confidence in the clean up. with regard to parcel a, with the recent discovery of the naval deck marker at parcel a and the issues we've discussed with you, regarding the work on the shipyard, we are aware of

the keep concern that you and the community have had about any potential impacts of the shipyard on the current and future residents and workers. e.p.a. was on site when the deck marker was unearthed, observed it's removal and analyzed the data collected to ensure that the public was not exposed to harmful levels of radiation from this object. e.p.a. has carefully studied the health effects and we do not believe it would have posed a health risk if it was left in place. radiation readings during and after removal indicated no residual contamination in the soil. >> president cohen: thank you. >> we appreciate the work of our colleagues at cdpa, department of public-health and their cannes that discovered this all the work they have finished across parcel a1 does not show radiological exposure to the public. when they finish the work they

have already started, the california department of toxic substance control, and the navy will have value waited the results and discuss any follow-up scanning or testing efforts and the city and parcel a residents. as we have stated before, the concerns we have would not impact the health of the current rear dents in parcel ar. the areas under question are enclosed under protective covers or inside locked buildings and secured parts of the. for the other parts of the site outside of parcel a, due to drew to the concerns, epm and the navy grow that comprehensive testing is before any new parcel transfers proceed. the navy must clean up the area

until it is safe enough to transfer. e.p.a., the navy and the other regulators have analyzed retesting approaches. we have listened closely to the community input both at many community meetings and from written comments. e.p.a. appreciates the navy's publicly stated statements, agreements to implement the regulators recommendations, which provide the plan that protects public-health and the environment while moving expeditiously to get the answers we all want soon, as soon as possible. we look forward to reviewing the revised work plan closely, as soon as we receive it. together, with my state regulatory partners, we commit to have our technical experts monitor this every step of the way to ensure the safety of future residents and workers. we understand, in closing, the community has had a cloud of uncertainty hanging over its head for far too long. we all want the retesting to start as soon as possible. only with retesting can we know

the facts about the extent of any potential contamination and begin clean up if needed right away. i appreciate the navy's movement forward towards the important steps. this urgency must be balanced with the need for a careful and transparent review of the work plan by both the community and the regulatory agency to make sure we're moving forward responsibly and efficiently to protect public-health. to ensure continued transparency throughout this process, we, at e.p.a., have committed to attend the bay view hunters point and meetings and provide regular updates on our progress. we also regularly meet with local federal elected officials to update the community's representatives on the work on the site. we continue to directory sources to hunters point so our team of text cal experts can focus our attention on this community. we're working hard together with the navy and our state regulatory departments and your departments to develop plans

that will ensure the hunters point naval shipyard is clean and safe for the community. again, i thank you for your invitation and i look forward to your questions and i might ask lilly and john to help me with some of your questions. >> president cohen: i appreciate that, thank you. i think your presentation was clean and straight forward. you didn't behind hi-tech cal words or terms. i appreciate you for using everyday terminology. my main question is, what are the next steps for your agency in relationship to the work plan and the monitoring process? i'm under the impression that your comments are reflected in the 30 pages of comments back to the navy. >> we gave them extensive comments last august, mid-august on the work plan that they submitted to be public review and agency review last june. so -- >> president cohen: they haven't changed? >> our comments have not changed. we stand by those comments. those are the same comments we've provided to the navy last

march. >> president cohen: that's a long time ago. my question is, for what reason do you believe that work plan hasn't reflected the comments that you've given? >> we believe, based on the statements the navy has made over the last few weeks that, to the public, that they are incorporating the comments that the regulatory agencies, including e.p.a. have provided them. we're hopeful in getting a work plan from them, i believe bit end of this month, around the end of the month, that reflects the comments that both e.p.a. and the state of california provides to the navy. >> president cohen: thank you, i appreciate your time. the last folks we will hear from is from the department of public-health. they will be here making a short presentation and then we can go to public comments. >> good afternoon. >> president cohen: good afternoon. >> thank you, very much for in inviting us to speak. my name is dr. thomas.

i'm here with amy bronell, she's been working on this project for over 25 years. i'm the health officer of san francisco and the director of the population health division. as health officer, my job and responsibility are to protect and promote the health and well-being for all in san francisco. there is nothing more important to me than the health and safety of everyone in the city, but especially for our communities that have suffered from historical injustices and health disparities. i want to acknowledge and thank the community residents and environmental justice advocates for their compassion and commitment to equity and dignity for the community. i have learned so much from their collective wisdom, lived experience, expertise, and advocacy. as the health officer, i stand with the community in fully support the california department of public-health,

radiation scans, to ensure the health and safety for parcel a residents. we not only want to ensure safety, but we want to -- we want the parcel a residents to feel safe. unfortunately, the deck marker finding was upsetting to all of us. we understand everyone's concerns. we hired an independent technical expert. you've heard those conclusions. i won't repeat it here. the bottom line is that based on all the information that we have, we believe that the parcel a is safe. what are we doing to get better at serving the community around these issues? we are re-assigning staff to strengthen our partnership with existing community residents and environmental justice programs in the neighborhood so we can set a common agenda and continue to move on the other environmental justice issues that concern the neighborhood.

we are strengthening our community outreach. i wanted to summarize really quick -- you've heard the roles of the other agencies. san francisco department of public-health's role is similar. we're local. we provide oversight. we have an engineer that reviews the plans, reviews the data. we hire consultants to help us. we're an extra pair of eyes and you've heard how this is playing out with parcel g and parcel a. one important thing to realize about parcel a, is even though parcel a was transferred in 2004, that if any issue comes up, the navy still has the responsibility to work with other regulators to make sure that things get taken care of.

>> president cohen: thank you. i just do have one question. what would be our department's role in providing the feedback. communicating to the neighbors, why there's a work plan and what it hopes to accomplish? why people should be paying attention. the importance of this work plan related to parcel g? >> so we independently review

the work plan separate from e.p.a. so we also provided our comments based on the consultants we higher. we have our own health physicist to review everything. right now we're deep into planning on how we'll reach out to the community. we're going to develop a website. we're developing materials. we want to make sure the community is not only learning about what is happening in the shipyard but they're also aware of the other services that the health department makes available in the community around all health issues. >> president cohen: i appreciate that. thank you for acknowledging the role of the residents and the community environmentalists and the advocates and they've played. sometimes when we were not paying attention they were still there. i'm grateful for that. i don't have any other questions and i don't see my colleagues having any questions. so we're going to close out this portion of the hearing. what i'd like to do at this time is just take a moment and say thank you to all the people that

came to participate in this hearings and that have traveled. many of the representatives from the navy traveled from san diego, others from sacramento. i'm grateful for your time and commitment. i'd like to begin to institutionalize these kinds of updates maybe every three months so we can keep a better record and just stay in touch with the happenings of the shipyard and what is going on. things are moving very quickly now. i just want to be able to stay on top of the changes. i'm excited to learn that the work plan is going to be finalized and publicly released. madam claire, if we can close out i think we can go to public comment. >> clerk: so we'll go to public comment for item 14. any members of the public who wish to speak, please come on

up. >> newsbreak. breaking news. i just happen to come here. i'm telling you. first of all, i want to thank you president cohen for holding these meetings. i appreciate your expertise and these questions. i'm appalled. i've been around some 20 years, y'all. here we are in 2018. what does this mean. when do we look at my -- first at all, i'm not here to criticize, i'm here to analyze. for my community. and my family. my name is ace and i'm on the case. i knew all the players from back then and these new players and all you city government

agencies. we got the navy? we got the e.p.a.? i'm a.c.e. and then we got the state. i know a lot about what is going on here in the department. all you players, movers and policymakers. let me tell you something, this is 2018. we're going into 2019. my name is ace and i'm on the case. i'm dealing with the federal, the e.p.a., the state and the city and county. we don't have a chance unless you participate us in your over all game that you guided the work plan. where i come from, we called it the master plan. we failed it because we weren't at the table. right now god is able. we're going to be at table. i don't know about community input. look what we got going on right

here. you got me talking to you like this. ain't no way in hell if you wasn't doing wrong you wouldn't listen to this but i'm putting it all in my song about the southeast. this is appalling. appalling. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, my name is steve castleman. i'm an attorney with the environmental law and justice clinic at golden gate university school of law. we represent green action for health and environmental justice. we have been involved in the clean up for a number of years. a lot of years. i heard that the plan for parcel g will be comprehensive. that is simply not true. the plan that we have seen so far is nowhere near

comprehensive. unless the navy has changed its tune in the past week or 10 days, they intend to serve a much less than the entire parcel g. let me give you an example of why you need to be very, very careful about listening to what these people say. because, they will tell you that they're going to sample 100% of the trench units. sounds good, doesn't it. what they don't tell you is they are not going to sample 100% of the soil from those trench units. they intend to sample one-third of the soil from those trench units and let two-thirds go by. they say they can have a statistical guarantee that it's clean. don't believe it. give us an opportunity to give

you a substantial presentation. we will fill you in on what they will not tell you because we have an advantage. we've actually talked to the people who did the fraud. none of these people have. not one. we've talked to dozens and dozens of people who have been out there working at the shipyards. we know what happened. the navy relies on -- >> your time is up. finish your sentence. >> the navy relies on documents to determine if there were radiological impact. >> president cohen: what would you say? >> we are relying on people who actually did the dumping. i'm sorry, the fraudulent work. we've talked to those people. we have heard the navy for two

years talk to those people. we have urged the navy to conduct. >> thank you. you are pressing your luck, your time is up. >> president cohen: thank you. are there any other members of the public that would like to comment and speak in public comment. >> clerk: this public comment is closed for item 14. >> president cohen: thank you, very much, everyone. we will see you in a few month's time and we will notice when the next update hearing will be. thank you. >> clerk: what would you like to do? >> president cohen: file this as heard. >> clerk: we can do that without objection. all right. ok. thank you, very much. and madam clerk, are there any other items before us today? >> we're going to file the item, not hear it in a few months. >> we can keep it open and then

just come back again in three months. that's fine with me. it's up to the chair. >> do we need to call the chair. >> all right, so, let's make a motion to rescind that vote. without objection and then let's make a motion to continue that hearing to the call of the chair. let me do that without objection. thank you, madam clerk, any other items for us today? >> there's no further business. >> thank you. we are adjourned.

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my grandfather came over from italy and opened it up then. it is a small operation. it's not big. so everything is kind of quality that way. so i see every piece and cut every piece that comes in and out of that oven. >> i'm leslie cirocco-mitchell, a fourth generation baker here with my family. ♪ so we get up pretty early in the morning. i usually start baking around 5:00. and then you just start doing rounds of dough. loaves. >> my mom and sister basically handle the front and then i have my nephew james helps and then my two daughters and my wife come in and we actually do the baking. after that, my mom and my sister stay and sell the product, retail it. ♪

you know, i don't really think about it. but then when i -- sometimes when i go places and i look and see places put up, oh this is our 50th anniversary and everything and we've been over 100 and that is when it kind of hits me. you know, that geez, we've been here a long time. [applause] ♪ >> a lot of people might ask why our legacy business is important. we all have our own stories to tell about our ancestry. our lineage and i'll use one example of tommy's joint. tommy's joint is a place that my husband went to as a child and he's a fourth generation san franciscan. it's a place we can still go to today with our children or grandchildren and share the stories of what was san francisco like back in the 1950s.

>> i'm the general manager at tommy's joint. people mostly recognize tommy's joint for its murals on the outside of the building. very bright blue. you drive down and see what it is. they know the building. tommy's is a san francisco hoffa, which is a german-style presenting food. we have five different carved meats and we carve it by hand at the station. you prefer it to be carved whether you like your brisket fatty or want it lean. you want your pastrami to be very lean. you can say i want that piece of corn beef and want it cut, you know, very thick and i want it with some sauerkraut. tell the guys how you want to prepare it and they will do it right in front of you.

san francisco's a place that's changing restaurants, except for tommy's joint. tommy's joint has been the same since it opened and that is important. san francisco in general that we don't lose a grip of what san francisco's came from. tommy's is a place that you'll always recognize whenever you lock in the door. you'll see the same staff, the same bartender and have the same meal and that is great. that's important. ♪ >> the service that san francisco heritage offers to the legacy businesses is to help them with that application process, to make sure that they really recognize about them what it is that makes them so special here in san francisco.

♪ so we'll help them with that application process if, in fact, the board of supervisors does recognize them as a legacy business, then that does entitle them to certain financial benefits from the city of san francisco. but i say really, more importantly, it really brings them public recognition that this is a business in san francisco that has history and that is unique to san francisco. >> it started in june of 1953. ♪ and we make everything from scratch. everything. we started a you -- we started a off with 12 flavors and mango fruits from the

philippines and then started trying them one by one and the family had a whole new clientele. the business really boomed after that. >> i think that the flavors we make reflect the diversity of san francisco. we were really surprised about the legacy project but we were thrilled to be a part of it. businesses come and go in the city. pretty tough for businesss to stay here because it is so expensive and there's so much competition. so for us who have been here all these years and still be popular and to be recognized by the city has been really a huge honor. >> we got a phone call from a woman who was 91 and she wanted to know if the mitchells still owned it and she was so happy

that we were still involved, still the owners. she was our customer in 1953. and she still comes in. but she was just making sure that we were still around and it just makes us feel, you know, very proud that we're carrying on our father's legacy. and that we mean so much to so many people. ♪ >> it provides a perspective. and i think if you only looked at it in the here and now, you're missing the context. for me, legacy businesses, legacy bars and restaurants are really about setting the context for how we come to be where we are today. >> i just think it's part of san francisco. people like to see familiar stuff. at least i know i do. >> in the 1950s, you could see a picture of tommy's joint and looks exactly the same. we haven't change add thing. >> i remember one lady saying, you know, i've been eating this ice cream since before i was

born. and i thought, wow! we have, too. ♪ >> right before the game starts, if i'm still on the field, i look around, and i just take a deep breath because it is so exciting and magical, not knowing what the season holds holds is very, very exciting. it was fast-paced, stressful, but the good kind of stressful, high energy. there was a crowd to entertain, it was overwhelming in a good

way, and i really, really enjoyed it. i continued working for the grizzlies for the 2012-2013 season, and out of happenstance, the same job opened up for the san francisco giants. i applied, not knowing if i would get it, but i would kick myself if i didn't apply. i was so nervous, i never lived anywhere outside of fridays know, andfridays -- fresno, and i got an interview. and then, i got a second interview, and i got more nervous because know the thought of leaving fresno and my family and friends was scary, but this opportunity was on the other side. but i had to try, and lo and behold, i got the job, and my first day was january 14, 2014. every game day was a puzzle, and i have to figure out how to put the pieces together. i have two features that are 30

seconds long or a minute and a 30 feature. it's fun to put that altogetl r together and then lay that out in a way that is entertaining for the fans. a lucky seat there and there, and then, some lucky games that include players. and then i'll talk to lucille, can you take the shirt gun to the bleachers. i just organize it from top to bottom, and it's just fun for me. something, we don't know how it's going to go, and it can be a huge hit, but you've got to try it. or if it fails, you just won't do it again. or you tweak it. when that all pans out, you go oh, we did that. we did that as a team. i have a great team. we all gel well together. it keeps the show going. the fans are here to see the

teams, but also to be entertained, and that's our job. i have wonderful female role models that i look up to here at the giants, and they've been great mentors for me, so i aspire to be like them one day. renelle is the best. she's all about women in the workforce, she's always in our corner. [applause] >> i enjoy how progressive the giants are. we have had the longer running until they secure day. we've been doing lgbt night longer than most teams. i enjoy that i work for an organization who supports that and is all inclusive. that means a lot to me, and i wouldn't have it any other way.

i wasn't sure i was going to get this job, but i went for it, and i got it, and my first season, we won a world series even if we hadn't have won or gone all the way, i still would have learned. i've grown more in the past four years professionally than i think i've grown in my entire adult life, so it's been eye opening and a wonderful learning >> all right. good morning, everyone.