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the therein. my staff and i are available to answer questions. >> president cohen: colleagues, do you have question for planning? all right. next we'll hear from a representative from the bay area air quality management district. welcome. >> good afternoon, mad madame president. i'm a deputy air pollution control officer for the air management district. two weeks ago we expressed concern about the mixed-use project localized air quality impact. today i'm here to thank city staff for working with the air district to address our concerns. as stated in our october 10 letter, with minor adjustments we believe the e.i.r. reduce the localized impact as much as feasible. the air district supports mixed use to reduce vehicle trips and
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emissions. the air district is also concerned about localized air pollutant exposure and identified bayview-hunters point under our health protection program because this area experiences disproportionate negative health impacts, increased vulnerability and exposure to air pollution. new sources of air pollution in a community like this is always a concern. the air district's role when reviewing land use development projects such as this is an advisory third-party expert and we applaud the work to protect venerable communities through the risk reduction plan under health code article 38, the construction dust control ordinance and others compared to other districts in the bay area and the country, san francisco say -- is a leader in health protection measures. there's a range of mitigation
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measures and within this context of the conservative analysis and aggressive city health control programs we believe the project is sufficiently health protective. the district enjoys working with city staff and we continue to meet with city staff to improve our relationship and we'll soon collaborate with cities and others on an emission plan for bayview-hunters point. thank you. >> >> president cohen: thank you. at this time i'd like to invite up ms. mary murphy or the project sponsor. >> i'm not mary murphy though i'll try to be. madame president, i'm with build inc. a local developer. as you heard our last meeting, there were issues on the air
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quality mitigation ambassador. i want to assure that you we will do whatever we can to minimize the impact the project has on air quality in the basin and surrounding neighborhoods. there are local regulations such as the dust control program administered by the wbh and d.b.w. requiring us to minimize dust and adhere to a minimization plan to reduce emissions during construction and once occupied the project must comply with the transportation management demand to reduce sole yo dorn solo car trips and builds infrastructure such as the dedicated class 1 bike lane through the project and signalized coordinated intersections to reduce traffic around the site. furthermore, building housing in close proximity reduces the main
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source of pollution in san francisco automobile traffic. and there's a comprehensive sustainability plan for on-site battery storage and net zero public realm and leading-edge healthy building materials. stated in the october 10 lert the ceqa air quality analysis for the project was rigorous and highly protective of human health. i urge you to reject the appeal and approve our development agreement. thank you. madame president. all right. ladies and gentlemen, now it's time for public comment. if you'd like to speak in support of the environmental impact report come on up. you'll have two minutes to speak. welcome. >> my name is cathy per? perim
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it it provides what our neighborhood needs in terms of housing. i know people want to focus on the air quality and it's very important but it does provide a lot of amenities as well like a grocery store, i think i made a list of thing it has. a grocery store, restaurant, gym, on-site childcare and what i think does speak to the air quality issue is an 11-acre park with lots of trees. you can have a park and i've spoken before saying i appreciate the beach but in light of the discussion today, i also appreciate all the trees they'll be put park. the class 1 bikeway is also a way to mitigate the toxins in the area. we have in the city bike to workday. we know transportation does mitigate some of the pollution. the project also creates what i call an affordable ladder in that the housing that they are
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offering to people targets different income levels. that means if my children who happen to live in our three-generational household want to find a place to move out it will speak to them. we're not living in what they call a deeply sub sidized project. we're not intersection 8 but still in single-family housing and many community people do need to access some of this housing. they'll do transportation management by having signs telling you real-time when busses come by, i'm saying busses but that's not the wording they use. so when you're trying to go
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somewhere [bell ring] >> president cohen: thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon madame president, cory smith on behalf of the san francisco housing coalition. the accolades of the project speak for themselves and a large amount of housing affordable creating housing stability for a number of folks. we've come to talk about this endlessly. on the specific aspect of air quality, it's been stated it does really need to be emphasized, the number one threat on a macro level to our plan et is global warning and the number one contributor in california is individual car use. when we don't build house close to transit it pushes the population density out. they're growing in sacramento, modesto and up and down the
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central valley corridor and they continue to commute because we have jobs. so when the cars get on the road and driving two hours to work and from work that's destroying our planet. i know people want to look at it through a lens but the best thing we could do is approve the project and every other project in our city next to our jobs going forward. it's really the only way we can manage on our level as a city our climate goals. thank you madame president for your work on this and i know you care about the environment and i think approving the project is the best thing we can do for mother earth. thank you. >> >> president cohen: thank you, next speaker. >> i'm dwayne and a native and resident of san francisco. i've been in bayview my whole
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life since 1964. my dad died of cancer. my mom died of cancer. reality is it's going to take billions and billions of dollars to clean that up. we'll probably be all gone. i think we should have something there for us. we need that. we have something there. thank you. >> president cohen: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm jill fox. i've lived in ennis avenue across from this project for 26 years. i raised a family there. we're going to suffer during construction like every other construction project that's ever happened in the history of human
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kind. but our long-term gains here, please, let's think of the long-term gains. we'll have house and a village where i don't have to drive four and a half miles to a super market and can buy food in my neighborhood. it will help with air pollution. when i can ride a bike downtown on a safe and scenic class 1 bike lane, that will mitigate air pollution in the long term. when we have more neighbors and more services, that will mitigate air pollution and importantly for the entire city. we are going to have the most beautiful park on the east side of town. we're going have a chrissy field of the south and we need that for our entire community.
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bayview, in the basin, the entire city of san francisco will benefit from the new park that's going in as part of this project. i urge you to vote yes. thank you. >> i'm ron wilson the director of ennis family. i have three children in college and they're doing well for themselves through being outside. we don't have ailments. let's do something now. get your kids outside. let's do some things root now. currently we're doing that. we're having people getting outside. we don't want you in the house. start doing things supporting your families. and it helps with employment. those are the thing we have to start thinking about. thank you.
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>> i'm also with bayview point family. we're willing to partner with park and recs now to get the project done. as ron said it would be great employment opportunities and create a safe and clean place for children in our community to play. similar to what we did over at helen diller playground. similar to what we're doing at park and recs and we're there with our boots on the ground. keeping the area clean and safe for everybody who wants to enjoy it. i'm with the initiative now to get this project started so we can see what we all can do together as a collective.
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>> president cohen: please speak up. >> the area was in a state of crisis. this area was inundated with drug addiction, drug dealing. people used the area as a public restroom. it stank like most of san francisco. over the past year, we've cleaned the area up with the help of rec and park and san francisco p.d. we made it a nice environment people can enjoy, that kids can come down and play in the grass where once they were afraid to because of stepping on needles. women come down here and walk around and once they were afraid to. india basin is also in a state of crisis. it's an unmanaged property people are misusing.
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moving forward the project would bring the land out of the state of crisis it's in and make it useful for the community to enjoy and would benefit the whole community. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker. >> hello. i'm erica scott and i work with the renaissance entrepreneur and i'm a current resident in the bayview and always speak on behalf of families who are in need of more support and i'm supporting the project for a grocery support and childcare
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and everyday needs for families where less driving and reducing of traffic congestion is a consideration. there's also the development and encouraging development in cities bringing a high concentration of jobs. the housing ratio into balance and fewer, shorter vehicle trips. there's the alternative transportation infrastructure that includes bicycling, walking and the discouragement of private use of automobiles in excess. building a class 1 bike lane to connect india basin with the bicycle network closing a gap for a continuous bicycle facility from candle stick point and shipyard to the water front and downtown san francisco. loading is a consideration. the build will have electrified
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loading docks and a dwell time to reduce trucks entering. so the benefits of this project as a renaissance representative, we're supportive. >> president cohen: thank you, next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is deborah tutson and i'm a volunteer with the april of randolph institute. it's helped with a lot of different events that have occurred in the bayview area pg&e plant removal and several other thing. there have been jobs offered in the bayview. there's housing in the bayview. there needs to be more. everyone has equal opportunities though i'm not a resident, i'm a strong supporter of the bayview area. they have been messed over, skipped over, jumped over.
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all these other neighborhoods are having all types of renaissance of modernizing and the bayview gets dumped on. stop it. make them have the facilities an the needs they have, grocery stores, cars, places for the children to grow up. grocery stores, a park to play in. just something for them, education, benefits, tutoring, you name it. they need it. i have an aunt that passed away from cancer. she grew up and lived there for over 50 years and died of cancer on ennis. help these people. they need it just like all other communities in the city need it. your developing chinatown.
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develop bayview. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, my name is michael james abercrombie. i want to talk about a solution. i grew up with asthma and i was recently diagnosed with lung cancer. the children who are susceptible need to be able to get out and get to work and play. it's possible to grow out of it. i did. interacting with the communities and teaching youth how to stand up for safe and fair housing and to have pride and respect for the neighborhood. with respect for themselves. they can grow up to be people of the neighborhood. that's what i think they need. that's a slougs to t-- solution the problem and what you can do for that would be appreciate.
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thank you. >> president cohen: thank you. next speaker, please. >> my name is joyce armstrong, i'm the proud president of the public housing association. i have with me the secretary for phta and the treasurer for phta. we have five developments under our jurisdiction umbrella. vernal dwellings, where i live, paterno annex and plaza east and firmingdale. we also have hunters view, valencia garden and -- my nephew
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has asthma and lives on top of hunters point so i'm not coming here not feeling what others are feeling but he's working and graduated and is in school and so far so good. i have asthma and i live in paterno hill. no matter where you live, you can get asthma and wherever we breathe there's going to be some pollution. of course, we want to see it cleaned up as much as possible but we need this india basin to happen. we need grocery stores. you should see what we have to go through to get to a decent grocery store. we need the parks.
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we need jobs and not just construction jobs. we're excited. do i like the height of the building? no, but if it's legal, i'm just going to have to be with it. with these developments we have almost 3,000 residents that we serve [bell ring] . >> president cohen: thank you. >> i'm jackie flin the executive director of the a. phillip institute. a couple weeks ago we heard someone describe bayview as a place of peace and safe haven. i hope for peace one day. for all the residents that live
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there today but just last night with many of my community members i resourced a text about a shoot at third and thomas. a young man was injured so i hope one day we can call bayview our safe haven too. i'm here because our community needed leadership. someone who works well with people and would listen to community concerns and respond to their needs. someone who will inspire our youth to lead. a.p.r.i. is without a doubt an anchor in our community. i'm here because it's disheartening to hear from folks who want a better community but aren't interested in driving economic opportunity for businesses and our youth. you guys are all right. we cannot refuse to acknowledge young people are living and dying in your neighborhood due to sheer neglect. this parcel is vacant because of years of neglect. there are no jobs on the parcel or housing because of sheer
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neglect. prior to build offerings to clean these offerings there was no plan to remediate the location. we asked community members to volunteer dozens of their personal hours participating on this project motorcro-- many had me today and have come from civic center and schools with peers to let everybody here know that in a world where climate change is happening now, they shouldn't have to wait 30 more years for a brown filled site to be cleaned. i know i'm getting the looks over there but i would have to say that i just want to make sure that we have a peaceful sanctuary too. thank you. >> president cohen: thank you for your present. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is chester meadows owner of green meadows janitorial
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service here to speak on the project. i lost my son-in-law and friends have lost their sons in the last couple years over gun violence. that relate to lack of opportunities. people are concerned about the environment but what about the environment of all the violence going on in the neighborhood and lack of opportunities? i want you to strongly look at what's going on here. we have to change thing around. mr. lou vazquez, when i was 18, he embraced me and mentored me and that's why i'm here today to have a successful business and walk in a positive light because what he taught me to always do things right. you look at somebody and many people stand for what's right.
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i'd like to thank them for the support they'd given me and that's what i can do to support them and create more opportunities for the community. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> i'm a bayview resident and been there most my life. as someone who documents a lot of what's happening in bayview, despite the safety issues we're still dealing with, it's a buzzing neighborhood. there's a lot going on with businesses an all kinds of neighborhood activities. i feel like i'm seeing a lot of my elders finally come out of their homes who are been hanging out and not doing thing so a lot's happening. i feel what we're dealing with in the community is rough. we have a rough history but we deserve a quality of life that's
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wonderful like everywhere else we see in san francisco. i hope you all consider supporting the project. i think it would be good for us. >> president cohen: thank you for your comment. next speaker, please. >> madame president and supervisors, it's important to remain in dialogue surrounding environmental justice and remediation. historically many thing have impact the bayview hunters point community. the build has explicitly including various design methods to protecting the community from toxic and detrimental impact seeking to remain vigilant on the key issue. additionally, as a member for bay.org for conservation and community programs in close
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proximity to the india basin project, my discussions have revealed synergies. there's areas which align well in consideration of air quality matters. relative to sustainable design, the project has a robust set of sustainability goals such as capturing solar energy into a semi-independent micro grid for park lighting and the goal of creating a net-zero public realm and deploying specific district sustainability design. additional design elements contributing to the environmental health and the proposed community include greening and a lush green 11-acre park who's foliage will help co2 offset.
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i express my support and anticipate a future of the community that will learn how to adopt more environmentally conscious lifestyles promoting the health of the community and benefit from the conscientious vision set forth by build. >> greetings to the board of the supervisor. i'm lay na miller the founder and executive director of the hunters point family. i'm here to express my support of the project. the hunters point family has been actively involved in trying to remediate and heal the environment the last 20 years we've been there. we've been historically known for our youth development program and environmental programs. we had many community gardens and board president malia cohen was at the opening of our gardeners market a few weekends ago. another very important program that we have is our e.p.a.
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funded workforce development program where we train young people in the community primarily public housing and we give them five certifications or six certifications an they go not union, hazmat, osha 10 and every year we have received this grant three times in a row and the last two times we came in number one in the nation, our pro-poefl w-- proposal was rate and we placed 20 folks all in union jobs where they're making an average of like $26 an hour and we're partnering with rec and park to do this work. what i have here with the program is an example of some place where it's working. and through that we want to create jobs for our people and we hope you will continue to reinvest in the community and allow us to create a better
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environment for our youth and families. thank you very much. >> president cohen: thank you for your comment. >> madame president, i'm senior pastor in the church here and part of a development group representing [indiscernible]. the indian basin development, i decided to instead of getting the document that identifies the contributions that will be made to the indian basin area and i was excited when i saw bayview.
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i've been a pos for in that neighborhood -- pastor in that neighborhood. because of time, the indian basin project is a little more than 38 acres. and participated in 80 meetings with stakeholders in the community. 22 public workshops to inform the 1,175 units will be 25% low and affordable units. the material pointed out approximately 500 jobs will be afforded so i really employ supervisors to approve the project today. thanks very much. >> president cohen: thank you.
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>> tim paulson, supervisors an madame president, thank you. i'm here for a different reason but didn't realize the environmental impact report was still under appeal and felt obliged to come to the microphone and say some words and it's an honor to follow reverend walker an icon in the neighborhood, but the fact that this is on the eastern side of town such an important area of town we've been develop from at&t park to hunters point and there's so many different issues over the years i want to reiterate we're hoping this
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project moves forward. as you know at one of our previous meetings the building trades council has signed an agreement with the build inc. to make sure there are going to be good jobs in the area with apprentice ship programs and pensions and what have you so the building trades council will continue to be partners with build inc. i think that's very important. i feel like we had to come and say a few words since we were here. that being said, thank you for hearing this and we really hope that we move forward. thank you. >> president cohen: thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors, my name is michael hammond. i'm a long-time resident of india basin. i'd like to preface my remarks today by urge you to compare the negative air quality impacts of this project with those of the
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p.u.c. sewer project in the same area. their impacts are 1,000 times greater to put in perspective. one of the mitigations in the project was to require all delivery vehicles to be alternative fuel vehicles. i joined with the planning department staff to reject the idea. no company will buy a special vehicle just to deliver to one neighborhood. rather, they will simply choose not to do business with that neighborhood. this would mean no stores to operate there. and there would be no stores all 3600 residents in the development would need to make a trip each day to buy their daily
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necessities. it's 1.3 miles to the nearest store of any sort. if half the residents drove to the store each day, that would be 7200 miles of unnecessary trips. compare that. they deserve the same sort of walking neighborhood that everybody -- >> thank you for your comment.
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next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. i'm jeff well being.
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>> we want to enrich the community and our grandkids to have a better life, being safe. we elected the officials to serve so in return we expect the officials that we elected to help us out. i have two sons out there and every time my phone rings i'm
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shaking. >> we have a chance to really change the neighborhood around and make something beautiful. >> president cohen: any other member of public that would like to speak. >> yes. >> president cohen: i think you spoke on the other side.
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>> the environment is used in a way in the president's view and in my view we're trying to -- >> i'll have to cut you off. i just checked in with our city district attorney and he said you already spoke and we can't give you another two minutes because it would be unfair to other speakers. i tried to be clear. my apologies. would anyone like to speak in favor of the project.
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>> many seem to be not paying attention to the testimony.
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>> i want to be clear because we're going to the board of directors. if it gets approved it will be challenged in many ways including civil rights violations an show up and say a project the e.i.r. admits is likely to exceed air district standards.
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>> let's work together to get a grocery store but not at the expense of people's ability to breathe. that's what we need to vote on today. thank you. >> president cohen: ladies and gentlemen, this public hearing has been held and now closed. i'm sorry, are you appellant? >> yes. >> president cohen: all right. can i have a motion to re-open public comment seconded and moved by commissioner ronen. my apologies. two minutes. >> i'd like to urge you to not vote for the project to approve the appeal and go back to the e.i.r. it has shown this community is a care community. and you heard from families who have cancer and asthma.
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it's not okay when you see so many mitigation measures will have negative and impactful consequences to this neighborhood. you can't agree with that. high winds is not going to be good and the dust will go where ever. the mitigation they said they'll try to change the fuel, that's not going work because they even said and harmful to the neighborhood. look at air monitor sensors. it would reduce the amount of the air quality to be higher than accepted in california. this if he -- if the sensors go off you should stop the project.
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just staying you'll stop travel by 20% won't be that significant. you need to go back to the c.i.r. and look at so many issues you said were going to impact it negatively. this is a community that has already been affected so much. and you guys are here to be a positive compluns -- influence to the city. please vote for the appeal because you guys need to protect people's lives. thank you. >> president cohen: thank you. are there any other speakers from the appellant? >> you can have an opportunity. >> good afternoon. i'm here with green action one more time. i couldn't let the opportunity
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pass by. i worked on diesel for bayview-hunters point. i'm the only person i know of that was able to secure good neighbor agreements from all the trucking companies within our city limits. however, you're going to sit here and tell me the pioneer the person who did all the research and all the leg work you're going to allow them to use alternative fuel? who's going to stop them and where?
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only place close to alternative fuel is muni. are they going share with the truck drivers or the businesses that open up? answer those questions, please. think about that before you put our lives in greater damage and our health and well being. thank you. >> president cohen: thank you. the public hearing has been held and now closed. i want to give everyone an opportunity to answer some questions. i particularly heard from supervisor fewerer who may -- supervisor fewer who wants to ask the planning department question. what will the mitigation be for dust? i think there's some information that is erroneously put out there that people think dust is going to be kicked up and kicked around and there's not going to be any manner of checking the
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amount of dust. maybe you can talk about the state standards? >> wade wicker of planning department staff, president cohen, board. san francisco has a dust control ordinance that requires projects of this scale to prepare a dust controlled plan that sets forth a series of measures such as watering the dust daily or potentially hourly. it's monitored so dust doesn't leave the site. >> president cohen: i don't know in colleagues have any follow-up questions? >> we heard a speaker say by
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california law there has to be a full 30-day comment period and as we know the last mitigation efforts were introduced to us at the meeting before this. so can you speak to that, please. >> the city attorney may be the best person to speak to that. >> deputy city attorney christa jensen. the letter that cited the 30-day period is incorrect. the issue before the board is whether there's new information that triggers a recirculation of the e.i.r. and there's a standard under ceqa that gets analyze will whether there's a change to an impact that was not previously reviewed, etcetera. there's no 30-day requirement short of something that would trigger a recirculation requirement. so no, there's no requirement for 30 days.
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>> this could sent it back to the planning department to do an additi additional review to see if there's other measures that could be mitigate. would we send that back to planning to do a subsequent e.i.r. to look at other measures that could actually be implemented to mitigate some of the air quality problems and things around dust? >> again, to the president and supervisor fewer under ceqa and the city's code, the job of the board to vote up or vote down on the appeal. if the board concludes the e.i.r. is not adequate as presented, yes, it would be sent back to planning with instructions as broad or limited as the would like. >> thank you very much.
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>> eighth other questions, colleagues? i want to thank everyone who's come out time and time again to weigh in on the projects an the neighbors, advocates, sponsors, planning department, back med for their surprised appearance two weeks ago. and i want to thank my staff that's helped me through the process and most importantly i want to hold up the community activists that have come out to talk about their concerns and what they like in the project and what they don't like in the project. i think the project can renext the uneasiness when it comes to the environmentalin --
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injustices and people are still living through them. we're trying to do our best and the city will continue to do their best to do their careful due diligence to ensure projects that move forward are not compromising the community's health. with that said, what i'd like to do and it's important to remember that we what we have before us is a ceqa appeal based on the evidence presented and from what i can tell there is no clear ceqa violation. the ceqa evaluation is thorough. the project will undoubtedly be a benefit to the community and can provide not only beautiful space for residents and continues to allow us an opportunity to highlight and showcase what thoughtful
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projects look like. colleagues, now i'd like to make a notion prove item 47 and table items 48 and 49. is there a second. madame clerk i believe we should have a roll call vote on this. >> clerk: on the motion [roll call] >> president cohen: the final
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environmental impact report is finally certified. madame clerk, we will now move to the legislative matters pertaining to india basins. call items 50 through 52. >> clerk: an ordinance to amend the bayview hunters plan for the mixed use project and adopt appropriate items. item number 51 is to establish appropriate findings and improve the india basin project at the approximately 28-acre site where various public benefits including 25% affordable house and 11 acres of parks and open space and making appropriate findings.
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>> this is for the majority of affordabili affordability on site and exceeds section 415 by 6%. an ordinance that only is 3,000 square feet for childcare and i want to recognize a $300 million flexible childcare fund. the basic infrastructure that's going to be put in place this is for a part of san francisco where there are no sidewalks, no poor lighting, no -- when i think about vision zero there are no crosswalks, sewer
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infrastructure. these basic infrastructures in other parts of the city already exist. this particular project will have to be build from the ground up. india basin has no class 6 and no basic infrastructure or a weak transit system. mission rock is on public land and tax increment will play the developer in part but not entirely. i want to note that a c.f.d. is not the same as an i.f.d. when it comes to housing we have a robust housing plan i'd like
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to read into the record. [please stand by]
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>> president cohen: i will pause here and acknowledge my colleagues whose names are on the roster. supervisor kim, we'll start with you. >> supervisor kim: i'm not sure if you introduced the amendments all right?
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>> president cohen: excuse me? >> supervisor kim: have you introduced the amendments? >> president cohen: no. i haven't finished the amendments. supervisor peskin, did you want to -- okay. >> supervisor peskin: i want going to speak to the amendments, too, but i can speak prior to the amendments. >> president cohen: i can jump right in. why don't we get to the amendments -- no, why don't you speak. >> supervisor peskin: i just want to we reflect how we got there. i think there is he a general notion when it comes to large projects that the developer comes and leaves on the table that the board is supposed to take in addition to additional community benefits. and that's the way these large project entitlements kind of go because they require a d.a., and what i've noticed in this
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process is that it has been largely divorced from the reality of the changes that we all made to section 415 that were in part what i was asking the mayor about earlier in this session. and i want to take stock of the fact that what we're trying to do with section 415 -- and this does not preclude the d.a. in a large development may be different and may have extenuating circumstances, was to create some predictability and security and stop the case-by-case negotiations. and i think when you hear about the amendments, which i am supportive of and are not net before us, we will find there was a whole bunch of stuff on the table, and i would like to absolute the process here at the board, the sponsor, supervisor and president cohen, and the push back that various members
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of this