issues about the integrity of the curtain wall back in 2017 and was the subject of a report that d.b.i. issued also based on an a.b.b. study that the d.b.i.'s inspection service division report was adated august 2 of 2018 -- was dated august 2 of 2018, and the unit that was the subject of that separation curtain complaint is unit 31-b, and this is going to be a question of mr. deerline. i'm not trying to play gotcha, but the a.b.b. paperwork that they submitted and the analysis that they did was on the other side of the building and on the d stacks, and i'm wondering why that is the data that is being relied on for the b-stack on the opposite side of the building.

am i making any sense to you, gregory? does that make any sense? >> yeah. the latest report that i looked at is the cracked window report, the a.b.b., and this is the report that they filed in the last month or so, right, the last few weeks, which everything on that was on the cracked window, so that's what i've focused -- >> i have not looked at that for a couple of weeks, but my recollection was appended to that was information that they garnered from their investigation from a number of units, and they found, if my recollection serves me, that the curtain was performing well in the e and d stacks of the building, on the south side of the building, whereas these are on the mission side of the building. i believe that information was repeated in the a.b.b. report.

i'm trying to get to the bottom of why nobody is getting them to investigate curtain wall separation issues where they should be investigated, which is on the b stack. >> b stack is on the south? >> b stack is on the mission street side. >> that's where the crack is. >> that is where the crack is, correct. >> yeah. so their report that they issued, again, they inspected the cracked window, they inspected from the inside and the outside. they pulled some finishes off so they could inspect the attachment wall to the building. the question posed to our committee wasny the cracking associated with the -- was the cracking associated with the settlement of the building, so that's what we focused on. again, the a.b.b. report looked at the outside and the inside. they had an opinion that the damage that's cracked partway

through the glass from the outside suggested that it was caused from some sort of impact from the outside. but they also looked at where the curtain wall was attach today the floors. and they did note there that several of the windows were slightly out of alignment, you know, from perfect alignment, but they -- in looking at how the attachments were, they didn't see any evidence that things had moved. their conclusion, which sounds very legitimate, was the curtain wal was installed that way. they -- wall was installed that way. they did some surveys of flatness at that point. if sliding was causing this, you'd see some settlement in

other areas of the unit. those were the things that i focused at. >> supervisor peskin: suffice is to say, you agree with their conclusion that this is an isolated one-off incident and is not related to the instruct wal performance of the building. >> is not related to the instruct wal performance and the settlement. whether or not there's some systemic issue with the curtain wall itself, materials, the wall, the glass or something, we didn't -- i didn't say anything on that because i didn't investigate that. that's outside my expertise. and i should point out, there's other supporting evidence. one is i talked to another member of our safety committee, another structural engineer. you know, and all indications are this is a very stiff building, so the differential settlement that's been occurring, and there's the settlement of the mat, there's the monitors up the building, there's the analysis that several companies have done, the settlement, we would expect --

there's no evidence that's causing differential drift that would cause this to occur to the windows. also, an engineer from lira, who's hired by the homeowners, he made an inspection, too, and there's a letter to that effect. >> supervisor peskin: and just to be clear, you were hired by us. >> yes, by the city. >> supervisor peskin: thank you for that. the only reason i said that it was a little unclear in something that d.b.i. sent out, so i just thought it was important to say that for the record. mr. tom, any concluding remarks before my colleagues get more mad at me? >> no, i think we looked at this matter today as much as we can, but we can certainly make ourselves available, whether it's within these chambers or in your office or with other agencies together. >> supervisor peskin: okay. and you are aware that there is a unit owner who was not

interviewed by a.b.b. who has spoken about hearing creaking for long before that window cracked, just f.y.i. -- just, mr. strong is aware. okay. to be continued madam chair. if there is no public comment, i would like to continue this to the call of the chair. >>clerk: there is. >> supervisor peskin: oh, there is, mr. gilberti. >> tom gilberti. hearsay, john rahaim, planning commissioner. successful building is one that won't fall down. it may not function, commercially or residentially, because to create an earthquake proof building would be

financially beyond profit making. i wish we could develop that a little bit more. we had cracked beams over fremont street. do you see cracked beams visually or do you need an x-ray machine? i imagine these tall buildings that won't be functionable, you might have to take x-rays, too, to see where the stresses have gone. i'm concerned about glass, too, and not the cracked glass here, but that just leads up to it. how many glass panels and windows are going to fly out of buildings if we have an earthquake downtown? if it rains right after it, water gets in the building. the worst thing for a building is water. and then, we have 1200 -- the

1200 block of fourth street, where we have sinking sidewalk and street. and that was done by experts, too. i would also like to have the fire department here. what do they expect to happen when all this glass starts falling from the sky in an earthquake? questions. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, mr. gilberti. i just have one other question for mr. tom. mr. tom, when your inspectors were in unit 36-b, inspecting that window, did they observe any cracks in the ceiling? i'm informed there are cracks in the ceiling in said unit. >> supervisor peskin, i would have to go back and find out. i was not -- i was not made aware of anything of that nature. >> supervisor peskin: mr. strong? >> maybe i can add because chief building inspector o'reardon did

look into that dplant when i received it from our colleague at nbc, and there is no cracked ceiling marks to be observed is what i was told. >> supervisor peskin: okay. a disagreement amongst experts. with that, if there are no questions from staff, thank you -- i mean, my colleagues, thank you for your continued indulgence of this supervisor's quixotic mission to make san francisco chamber. >>clerk: through the chair, would you like to close public comment before you take item on this item? >> supervisor peskin: i would close public comment. >> supervisor kim: we have a motion to close this item to the call of the chair. i want to thank supervisor

peskin's work, and all the department's work on the tall building safety strategy. it's good that we are first to engage in work like this. as we go forward with the central soma plan, and we approve this, i think this board needs to know that we are putting together a plan that ensures the safety of all of our workers and residents, including new workers and residents that will be moving to this area as building higher and more densely in the south of market area. so i'm hopeful that we can begin to implement a lot of the administrative changes as soon as possible because as soon as we pass a plan, many of the large projects we'll be moving forward for their individual approvals, and i would hate for them to move forward without these changes. i have to say i'm probably more concerned about existing

buildings than new construction. i think the millennium has scared developers with good cause. i am very concerned about existing buildings. in particular, landlords that can't or may not feel that they can afford to make the safety improvements, and then, how these buildings then impact the safety of other buildings and of course, the neighborhood. what supervisor peskin brought up about the ownership changes i think is really critical. in fact we have very few ownership changes because they've figured out that if you do under 49%, they don't have to pay the real estate transfer tax, and they don't trigger a number of different is -- criteria. i'd hate to see us build more

and not put the precautions in place that we've studied. but i think this is really good work, and i'm appreciative to supervisor peskin for leading this charge and for all the departments for putting together this report. so we have a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair, and we can do that without objection. all right. mr. clerk, can we please call items five and six. >>clerk: agenda item number five is a resolution dlarging the intention of the board of supervisors to establish city and county of san francisco special tax district for special soma and determining other items in connection. item six is a declaration of the intention of the board of supervisors to secure bonded indebtedness for city and county of san francisco for central soma and determining other matter nz connection there with. >> supervisor kim: thank you so much, mr. clerk. we will not be having a presentation on this item today because i will be continuing it

to our special g.a.o. meeting of next thursday, october 25. i did want to make some cleanup amendments so the members of the public can see that. i will be introducing these amendments, but i have handed out copies to my colleagues and to the clerk and city attorney. they're very minor amendments, adjusting numbers on page two and on page nine i believe -- i'm sorry. page eight. and then, on pages 10 and 11, adding that -- the board of supervisors declares its intent to enter into an agreement providing for the advance and reimbursement of the funds if it is determined by the director of public -- i'm sorry, public what? okay. we should -- it's not in there. so i'm going to verbally orally add that. it is determined by the director

of public finance to be in the best interests of the city because that would be a very strange directive. and then, adding in our supervisor file number 180652 on page 11. on exhibit a, adding in under neighborhood stablization and community services, small business development and workforce development. and then, within exhibit b -- i believe this is at the end, on page 13, that after the response -- adding the words on which at least one parcel was categorized as a tier c for sale residential square footage shall be categorized ad tier c -- as

tier c. so those are the amendments that i'm introducing today. before we take a motion for adopting them, i'm going to open up public comment on items four and five. seeing no public comment, public comment is now closed. colleagues, can we take a motion to adopt these amendments. >> supervisor peskin: so moved. >> supervisor kim: we can do that without objection, and we will be continuing these to the thursday, october 25 government and audit over sight committee meeting. are there any questions before we take that motion? seeing no questions, thank you to lisa and josh for very patiently sitting through this long hearing, and we will take that motion to continue this item. mr. clarkerk, are there any furr items before this committee? >>clerk: there is no further business. >> supervisor kim: meeting is adjourned. [ gavel ]

a late realization. >> ok. thank you for your presentation. commissioners, any questions before we go to public comment? at this time we will take public comment on this matter. does any member of the public wish to speak? please come forward. >> good afternoon. my name is richard. you know me as a legacy business program manager with the office of business that i want to make it very clear that i am speaking to you today is a san francisco resident and an urban geographer not as a city employee.

i'm here today because i want to challenge your philosophy with regard to copying historic architectural styles, which is generally not allowed by planners and historians. on page 10 of the addendum to the negative declaration is a statement that says existing structures falsely evoke a historic aesthetic. they do not falsely evoke anything. the wording on page 9 is better. the existing public toilets and kiosks were designed in the turn-of-the-century -- turn of the 20th century style. there is a huge difference and i want to take this opportunity to explain the difference and why it is important. coaching quoting alan davies in a 2012 article, there is something about tradition that people like. it is not just history. they are drawn to qualities like complexity intimate scale, detail, richness, elaboration and nonabstract meaning. why can't new buildings and streetscapes be in historic

styles can't even sluggishly historic ones? most people really, really, like them. san francisco city hall is a perfect example. this gorgeous building that we are sitting in which opened in 1915 was designed in a neoclassical style. neoclassical architecture is an architectural style that began in the mid-18th century and is derived from the architectural -- architecture of classical antiquity. in other words, it is a copy of an older style. the dome was city hall is in the same style of a church and from paris. with san francisco she was san francisco city hall falsely evoking a historic static? should be destroyed the building and replace it with something modern? absolutely not. yet if someone tried to build city hall today, planners and historians but absolutely not allow it. if someone was to build something in the turn of the 20 th century style, he would call it a false revocation of an historic static and say no. that to me is a travesty.

as long as a structure we are building is constructed well with top quality materials and craftsmanship, we should embrace it even if it is a copy of an older style. if you like to replace existing public toilets and kiosks with different design, that is fine. but if you want to replace public toilets and kiosks with a different design using argument that the structure is falsely evoking a historic aesthetic and are therefore not worthy of preservation, that is not ok. besides, how our structure supposed to become historic if we keep destroying them and replacing them with things that are more current. if in the 1950s we destroyed all the art deco buildings from the 1930s because they were only 20 years old at the time, we would have no art deco buildings today. thank you for me allowing to challenge your philosophy about designing structures in older styles. >> thank you. >> does any other member of the public wish to comment on this item? seeing none and hearing no other public comment, i will close public comment.

>> thank you. i really appreciate what you are saying. i have made that argument about postmodern architecture which is only 20 or 30 years old. we are destroying it all. i think your argument is well taken. i did have a question for the architect about when we last talked about these, one of your expressed design desires was about the panels being reversible so therefore you would eliminate lots of inventory for panels. now what you are suggesting is that the upper panels are more curved than the lower panels. so therefore that doesn't quite work anymore. my understanding that correctly? >> partially. it is just the middle of the sides that will have a different wall on the top and bottom of the ends of the units will still be reversible.

one of the reasons i asked the question is because i thought your photographs and your renderings were very good. because i saw this one and i was shocked at how tall and how big the new one is relative to the old one. and wondering why it has to be so tall. i remember last time we had the conversation because while we are making these panels that can flip up and down and therefore we are creating this good thing for efficiency. by a design stroke, we have eliminated that and i mean, i am shocked because you have the same people standing there. it really shows how much bigger they are. the other question related to this one, in particular, because these are the double ones, is there really a necessity for the double ones create the double ones are so substantially bigger than the single ones. when you show the pictures like at union square or at washington

square, and those are the single ones that are getting replaced, they are not nearly as impactful as these. and then i really question at the civic centre all of a sudden , you are getting a huge blockage of the building behind and to the new café that is there that will be blocked by it i understand it on the civic centre because there are a lot of people there. but somehow, i don't know. i just know you probably have done studies and their reasons why that there's more people therefore you have doubles, i mean, it seems enormous to me. in terms of its historic placement in historic locations, it is substantially -- substantially impactful. i am wondering if there's any way to make it shorter. obviously the height of people haven't changed and the height of the bathroom is the same. so there's a lot of dead space up there.

it is very tall. and number 2, i love the design overall. i think all of that is great. i love the materials you have suggested and the concrete base with a stainless steel. it is great. and all of those things, providing a place for some historic dialogue poster or something is also really incredible. >> they are only 13 feet tall if i am reading this right not 13 feet outside on the street is not tall. >> they are actually only 12 and a half. >> thirteen includes a foundation. >> you are right. they are 12 feet space which i think about outside is something that is 12 and six is not -- i know you're looking at the renderings, with something that is 12 and six is not -- >> in these renderings, it would save the existing ones are eight and a half or 9 feet tall.

>> then your renderings are nowhere near accurate. >> quite possibly. >> at least in this united nations plaza rendering, it looks substantially bigger. if that is the case, if you're only going up 3 feet, it looks like 60% or 70% bigger. >> it might be a rendering scale issue. >> it is important to get approval because it shows up on all of the pictures. it seems substantially bigger. >> thank you. >> i had exactly the same reaction. somehow i felt like i had just awakened to the size of this. especially the double units. i like this material. i wonder, has this been used for any length of time in another similar application?

>> , yes. we have used multiple designs of that manufacturing company. >> is that particular sample the same? >> yes. working with very similar materials and we have to generate how it will work exactly with venting. but for maintenance purposes, we like it a lot based on experience. this is a really good project. is more expensive to invest but on the long term it is a good investment. >> ok. that is one of my concerns. may be -- when we have the joint meeting, the prime material looked like it could be as easily scratched as my macbook. thank you. something else i was struck by is these renderings show -- i don't have concern at all about the kiosks.

the renderings show the toilets, especially the double toilets, they are shown here being sort of darker and i thought that was somehow a material that we were going to end up it with. and of course, you brought the sample today. i would be interested to hear the other commissioner his comments on preference in terms of that sample versus this elevation and this rendering that shows what appears to be darker units. i think part of the reason that some of us are struck by how much bigger these look from the existing structures is the existing structures are darker and because those are bigger and bulkier, i think they will be really highly visible and i be interested to hear what comments about using the same material but just in a darker finish.

>> that material will reflect the light around it. it is not reflective but it is reflective of light. it will dematerialize it a little bit in the sense that it will reflect the sky and provided light. >> you seem to be as concerned as i am. fair enough. >> that is just my two cents. >> could i address really quickly pick what we found is the renderings, it is a little bit of what the background has, which changes your perception of the color on it. in the computer, it is the exact same material that is getting rendered. depending on the brightness of the background montage photograph, it changes our perception and makes it darker or lighter. we have struggled with trying to get it to render correctly. and then the material that we passed around here is not finished.

it is just stainless steel and flat. we went through, do you coat it or do you do all this other stuff and then it defeats -- defeats it being graffiti resistant if it can just be refinished. >> you can consider the way it is picking up the wedge right now. it looks almost like would. it is kind of interesting. >> i can see that. thank you. >> thank you. here i am concurring in part and dissenting in part. and the concurrence first is you said commissioner, pullman -- commissioner commissioner pullman, you had comments about prior comments concerning historic styles that you made. i agree with what you said and i agree with what you said. i am never open-ended by the reworking of historic styles. so that is the concurrence. as to the dissent, if i understood your comments

correctly, you wondered why there had to be so many toilets were so many double toilets. >> i have observed that in san francisco currently. there are a great many full bladders. [laughter] and that, to me is complete justification. i'm sure there's lots of ideas on that. >> i think it was more of -- [laughter] >> remember, we are here to determine whether we feel these are compatible with the location they are in in the historic district. i would like to make one comment for the record relative to the opposition we received from the telethon hill dwellers about the structure in front of cory tower i was just walking by corey tower recently and i looked up and i thought well, it is a sleek and modern looking tower in which one of these toilets

will be completely compatible with the streamlined designs of the corey tower. so i do not have a concern. if there is any location where these toilets are appropriate, it is probably that one, more than any because of the character of corey tower being so streamlined and simple and modern. so i think i would like to entertain a motion. do we have a motion? >> i will move the staff recommendation to approve the use with the modified texture. >> i believe the texture is in the staff report. >> it was the map that texture is already in the report. >> i would move the staff recommendation to approve it. >> i second that. >> thank you. >> if there is nothing further commissioner his, there is a motion to approve or certificate of appropriateness and permit to author with conditions. on that motion? [roll call] so moved.

that motion passes unanimously. commissioners, that places us on item eight, for landmark designation on union street. >> good afternoon, commissioners shannon ferguson from planning staff. i'm here to present our recommendation regarding landmark designation of the former paper doll bar located at 524 union street in north beach. the department received a community sponsored landmark designation from the property owner. the final draft of the

designation report was submitted by the property owner to the department department in august, 2018. commissioners conducted a site might visit on september 5th at the hbc initiated designation the same day. the paper doll bar is significant as one of the earliest gay bars. it has helped contribute to the development of lgbtq communities in san francisco. it is also significant for its association with an individual. as the owner paper doll, he became one of the person just one of the people on the front lines for the fight for lgbtq civil rights in san francisco in the 1950s. i wanted to note that the period of significance has been updated following receipt of new information. it is now 1947 to 1961 and this reflects the date that mona sargent took over management of the paper doll and turned it into a gay bar and ends with the date that dante sold the paper doll. i also want to mention a property owner has an easement on the adjacent alley.

alumni designation does include just the building. it would not include the alley and we have updated the ordinance to reflect, to clarify this. i have updated copies here. there are also character defining interior spaces and features. these include the front dining room and l-shaped rear dining room. the long bar and back bar. the fireplace and heavy timber support posts. these spaces are eligible for designation because they were historically publicly accessible designation of the paper doll also meets the three historic preservation commission pack three of the four priorities for designation, including designation of underrepresented landmark property types as are only three other landmarks associated with lgbtq heritage. designations of buildings and underrepresented areas. there are only three other

landmark buildings in the nearby vicinity. and designation of properties with strong cultural associations. the property has significant cultural associations with lgbtq heritage. the property owner is very supportive of landmark designation. there is no known public opposition to designation of this location on and the department received several letters in support of designation including a couple of new letters that were included in your pocket. the department believes the building meets established eligibility requirements and landmark staff is warranted. the department recommends the hbc recommend landmark designation to the board of supervisors if recommended today that the department will forward the designation onto the board of supervisors. this concludes my presentation i am happy to answer any questions property owners are also here today for any questions. >> thank you. do we have any questions for staff?

or for the sponsor? at this time we will take public comments. do any members of the public wish to speak to the symmetrically if so please come forward -- speak to this matter? if so, please come forward. we welcome your comments. >> good afternoon commissioners and planning staff. i am the lgbtq heritage preservationist and co-author of the statement for lgbtq history. i am here today representing the historical society as the founding chair of the historic places working group. i am speaking in support of this landmark nomination. the paper doll is identified in the lgbtq historic context statement is one of the most important pre1965 public spaces in san francisco. it was foundational in developments of the first lgbtq communities in the city. we, in the community, are

overjoyed to see the paper doll landmark nomination moving forward to. this would be the first landmark in the city to recognize the pre 1965 lgbtq history. it would be the first to really highlight lesbian and transgender histories. it would be the first landmark in the country to honour the significance of a queer restaurant, which is very neat. this landmark nomination was a completely grassroots effort prepared by the building owner and her sun. both heterosexual allies. the research and the landmark reports blew me away. it is exhaustive. it was written completely by the two even though there is one page that attributes part of it to me. i had nothing to do with it. i have been an advocate this whole time. the most important part, i want to say, or the most important part of this to me is that this process was completely community

driven, which we really wanted to see something to come out of the historical context statement just like the community doll, it self was community driven. the community made the paper doll in the paper really made community. so thank you commissioners. i hope you will continue this work. the nomination of this important building. >> thank you. does any other member of the public wish to comment on this item? we will close public comments. commissioners? >> thank you. thank you for your comments. i hope that's we can highlight the letter that was included in the nomination from sandra luna where she talked about all of the challenges her father had to keep the paper doll alive and even going to court and forfeiting all their savings to make a strong point.

i think that is a really important thing to learn and to continue to share in this day and age that people go all the way to fight for what is right. i think this is really important >> thank you. >> very briefly, we don't have lots of time but i really appreciate the project sponsor going further with this report. it is beautifully done. i hope something more happens to the history of the paper doll and all the things that are in this report. more than just staying in the staff report. i strongly support this project, this nomination. >> thank you. i would echo those comments. the report was really well done. it was fascinating to read and we should find a way to publicize it and get it out there. it was just a really well done

-- from the staff side and from the sponsor side. thank you. >> do i have a motion? >> i make a motion. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners. on that motion to approve these matters. [roll call] >> excuse me. you are right. recommend to the board of supervisors. >> [roll call] >> so moved. that passes unanimously 6-0. in places us on item line. 925 pierce street. a certificate of appropriateness >> afternoon commissioners. department staff. it is a contributing property within the landmark square

district. the subject property was developed with a three story over basement residential structure. it contains 12 dwelling units currently and was completed in 1912. an elaborate -- elaborate brickwork are found all of the pedestrian elevations. the proposal predominately entails the infill of the building single garage opening that was vertically oriented and it meets the wooden face and still within the same opening. the work is part of the conversion of existing garage and storage space to one new accessory dwelling unit. the department has received no correspondence in support or opposition to the project. the a garage opening appears to be original to the building by the department believes this element is not a character defining feature of the property or surrounding district. the system would be composed of which. a material that is character defining and ubiquitous within the district felt remains visually differentiated given its placement within the opening in distinction from the breakfast thought. staff is therefore determining that the proposed work with the

recommended conditions would be in conformance of the requirements outlined in a pent -- in the appendix of the planning code and the secretary secretary of interior standards. based on that analysis, we recommend approval with the following conditions for the project sponsor should provide final details regarding the attachment of the infill system with existing building reveals to department staff reviewing approval pick sponsor should contact department staff to arrange a site visit for the review and approval of a mockup of the wood infill systems attachment to an existing building reveal and material samples for any replacement brick that may be needed that shall be provided to department staff or approval. that concludes my presentation. i believe the project architect is in attendance and i am happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. do you have a question? >> if these garages and all these buildings are original and they reflect the developments of these 1920s and 1930s

buildings, why are they then not character defining? >> this came up with a previous project. in the pocket and in the motion that was passed by the commission, we found these were not -- that neither the designating ordinance itself for the report to make mention to automobile oriented development or these openings at the base of these apartment block buildings as being significant. they were never even referenced. it goes into lengthy discussion of what the character defining features of the square are. >> there is a much more deep discussion in the pockets. it is the same language we have used but neither of these documents never once made reference to them.

on the features that are highlighted in those highlighted uses. the character defining features are well detailed within the ordinance. if that was -- when that was made that they felt his character defining one would think that would be highlighted. thank you. desa sponsor wish to make any presentations? -- does the sponsor wish to make any presentations? >> a picture is worth 1,000 words. >> would five minutes be sufficient? >> i wish commissioner hyland was here because he is so keenly interested in the infilling of the garage openings. >> yeah. >> i am sure we will see more. >> my name is serena.

i am the project architect for the project located at 925 pierce. i did a quick presentation that will show you some more photos of the scope of work. i will just click through. this is the building located on the corner of pierce and golden gate avenue. you can see i have put in red a box that shows on the bottom right corner exactly where the garage door is and where the unit will be located. this will be a two bedroom one bathroom unit located in the corner. and facing onto both street frontage is this is the current garage. you will see there is a tradesman corridor with a door on the far top that will stay and then there is electrical equipment just below that that will be moving over and creating a little vestibule. you will come in to where there is an existing window and we are lowering the fill height to create the door and then where the garage door is, we are infilling to the exact proportions with double hung windows to match the proportions of the existing building above. you will notice that we have a

couple of steps up to the bedroom so you can achieve egress height without massive modifications to the other windows fronting on to pierce. the rear bedroom, because of light and ventilation and egress , we proposed to change the single window into a pair of windows also aligned with the windows above. illustrated that changes to the façade here with the garage door with the openings that we are modifying and you can see in the elevation on the right that we are putting the door where the window was in infilling the two double hung windows and the garage door. we are locating below the window sill and set up a brick and felt a match and we are doing a separate material to identify that this was a different opening historically and then on the side you can see over here the site slopes up and tucks behind this car. it is a one window that we will be making into a pair of windows

aligned with the windows directly above it right there. that is at. >> rates. thank you. >> thank you very much. do you have any other comments? >> for the purposes of the discussion, i would like to highlight under the new delegation capped this project would have to come before you as it involves new openings on primary as well as elevations but under the new delegation, infill strictly within a garage opening is now staff level approval and we would appreciate guidance on proposed treatments and the appropriateness of this one and ideas and stuff for the future. i want to note that. >> the golden gate street side would not come before us in terms of if it was just that but it is because the pierce street side where we are doing the double windows. >> as well as extended opening. this was noticed before the delegation came up. we probably could have reworked it.

>> any public comment? >> i have a question. >> the question is, if i understood correctly, somebody said that this garage door was original. >> thank you. >> i would remind the commissioners that there are many places where we have permitted garages to be inserted that we have removed so we could remove budget additional siding and windows. >> may be what -- >> is there any members of the public who wish to comment on this item? if so, please come forward. seeing and hearing then, we will close public comment. >> i was just asking for the sake of understanding and now i can respond to your more recent question. i think this is a very appropriate way to infill a

garage by not putting the brick underneath and having a wood panel and some kind -- there are other panels on the building, even if there was a raised panel , something that was consistent with the design of the building would be very appropriate. i think this is exactly the way we should be looking at it and not trying -- especially because it was 1100 film or when we kept talking about the brick and finding matching brick. that will always be difficult. >> the grading was more challenging relative to where the garage we are paying for and the height of the floors. >> i would say it is a really nice project and it is really well done and perfectly appropriate. >> i would make a motion to approve. >> there is a motion. >> second. >> if nothing further commissioners, there is a motion that has been seconded to approve this matter with conditions. on that motion. [roll call]

>> so moved. that motion passes unanimously 6 -0. it places us on items ten a through c. for properties at 3630 balboa street and 2117 chestnut street and 5030 gary boulevard respectively. >> hello, commissioners. as you heard, there are three applications before you today for your review and recommendation to the office of the small business commission. the first is the balboa theatre located at 3630 balboa street. the theater opened in february of 1926. the original owner hired a renowned architect to design and build a neighborhood theater to serve the outer richmond

district. the building theater was originally that had a single auditorium that sat approximately 800 people. in 1978, the theater was converted into a two screen theater and in 2004, gary meyer bought the business and sold it to its current owners, excuse me for my mispronunciation. today the balboa theatre shows a combination of first round feature films and themed screenings along with family-friendly movies every saturday morning and classic films on thursday evening. i wanted to note that the balboa theatre is mentioned in one of our local historic context statements. specifically the draft san francisco neighborhood movie theater nondoes not continue multiple property historic

district which was prepared in 2006. the report provides background from the theater, specifically for the theater types and the combination theater type which was originally designed to allow for vaudeville and moving pictures. it does not provide much information about the balboa theatre. they staff is recommending that we recommend approval to the small business commission. we are recommending the following features be protected. the marquee, the primary façade with his shaped parapet, wending opening -- window openings, the entrance, the linking is to the front openings, the blade sign, the interior spaces including the ticketing area, the lobby and the original single auditorium volume, the original interior, ornamental features and the film programming.

that takes us to our second application which is for fireside camera located at 2117 chestnut street. it was founded in 1954 by william and yvonne fireside as an independent photo store in the marina district. for 40 or more years, they specialize in weddings, portraits and event photography and becoming one of san francisco's most renowned wedding photographers. in the 1970s, the photography became more commonplace and people started taking their own family pictures. fireside studios evolved and added retail to its services. its name was changed to fireside camera to reflect this change. at the turn-of-the-century, they decided to retire and offered the store to three of their employees who purchased the business and are now the current owners. staff is recommending support of

this application and recommending the following features to be protected. the selection of new and used camera equipment, the film processing and digital printing services, the signage and the cabinets which were originally bought by the fireside. that takes us to our third application. the house of bagels located at 5030 gary boulevard. it opened in 1962 and its original location on second avenue and gary boulevard up in the richmond district. their famous bagel recipe and manufacturing process are brought here from brooklyn, new york by a native new yorker. they serve the jewish and east coast community with an authentic east coast bakery experience. they opened with this business and ran it with his wife. in the -- in 1964, they hired a man who started working at the house of bagels and eventually became the second owner.

the staff is recommending approval and recommendation of approval to the small business commission and we are recommending the following features to be protected. the bagel sign from 1968, the mural back the original new york style bagel recipe and methods and the artisan baked goods. that concludes my presentation and please let me know if you have any questions. >> great. why don't we move to public comments. does any member of the public wish to comment on the items? or any of the members wish to -- yes, come and talk about bagels. [laughter] >> you have been here for this hole here and might as well tell us. >> i have actually owned house of bagels with my wife for 13 years now. and something she didn't mention , the person that was just speaking right now -- we are the first actual boiled

bagel west of the mississippi. >> but you are the best. [laughter] >> that was the tagline for a long time. the original but still the best. this whole thing during the legacy project was quite an experience. i learned so much about the business over the last ten years i got to go into the crazy advertisements because they are so simple compared to what you are used to today. i want to talk about to customers. two types of customers that we really appreciate. we like all of our customers and love them all, the first is the east coast expatriots that have come to san francisco and they come to our store and i remember this one woman who started crying. she did not know that we were there and she showed up and she said this is just like home. and the second thing, especially when i worked in the story, which i don't do very often now, i don't do at all anymore, was

meeting people and san franciscans who talk about having come there with their parents or their grandparents. and even supervisor fewer who recommended us. she is a customer and she was talking about bringing her kids and she would bring them to school and stuff like that. it is really nice to be part of the community and be a business that is recognized. any time you tell somebody when we are bound in another place that we have history in san francisco, and if they have lived here for a while, they know us and it is a really good feeling for them. so that is -- i also wanted to thank the legacy business folks that helped us. they did such a good job. the process is an onerous process for someone running a business. but they were so helpful. it was really good so i want to recognize him and told them they did a great job. >> does any other member of the public wish to comment on these items? >> my name is spencer and i'm

one of the co-owners of fireside camera picked a couple of things they did not touch on in the speech was that the three co-owners have been working at the story for 30-40 years. we have been running the store since 1985. it is pretty much ongoing. fifteen years we have been working hand-in-hand with the fireside before they retired and passed away unfortunately. we have been there forever and we are happy to have a chance to be in a legacy program. >> thank you, very much. >> hello, my name is adam and i i'm the owner of the theater, along with my wife. we purchased it from gary in 2012 and i think when we did this, i'm woefully unprepared. i don't think we realize just what an integral part of the neighborhood it was when we purchased it. we knew we loved it and we

suspected that everyone else did but we did not realize just how it is the glue that holds that neighborhood together you can really feel that. at this point we know all the customers by name and people, just this week, a couple told me they had their first date at the balboa theatre in 1945 and they were coming back to see another movie this week and they have been coming the whole time. lately we have been -- people have gotten big interest in the playland and there has been a lot of news about the playland. we have acquired a lot. we have become the unofficial home of playland memorabilia. we are in the process now of redecorating it to show a little bit of that. that is an integral part of the neighborhood as well. i don't know where i'm going with all of this but i feel like the balboa theatre is what a

legacy business is and i think this designation will help to perpetuate it and keep it going. it is touch and go with the business like that. movies come and go and in fashion as far as going to the movies. i thank you for your time and i appreciate it. >> thank you. does any member of the comment -- of the public wish to comment on this item? i will close public comments. i want to thank the business owners are coming out here. we have had a long hearing. we really appreciate your comments. it is helpful for us and informative and great for the public to hear. >> what i keep thinking about is listening to your comments and thank you for performing and echoing our esteemed president. is the word defamation is becoming -- destination. with destination this and destination data. i'm thinking about my life in san francisco, almost 50 or 60

years now. those places where -- you made a special trip to the house of bagels and you made that part of your agenda and part of your week. he went to the balboa theatre and i did not go that much to fireside camera but i know where you are and that is a great place to be. i just want to thank you. these are truly legacy businesses and the whole idea that you are retaining the destination as part of the neighborhood is absolutely terrific. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> my first movie was at the balboa theatre. i grew up right down the block on fulton and you are the one left on that street that is from back in the day except for that bar across the street. hockey haven or whatever it is. but i think, and my girlfriend an