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association with an individual. as the owner paper doll, he became one of the person just one of the people on the front lines for the fight for lgbtq civil rights in san francisco in the 1950s. i wanted to note that the period of significance has been updated following receipt of new information. it is now 1947 to 1961 and this reflects the date that mona sargent took over management of the paper doll and turned it into a gay bar and ends with the date that dante sold the paper doll. i also want to mention a property owner has an easement on the adjacent alley. alumni designation does include just the building. it would not include the alley and we have updated the ordinance to reflect, to clarify this. i have updated copies here. there are also character defining interior spaces and features. these include the front dining room and l-shaped rear dining
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room. the long bar and back bar. the fireplace and heavy timber support posts. these spaces are eligible for designation because they were historically publicly accessible designation of the paper doll also meets the three historic preservation commission pack three of the four priorities for designation, including designation of underrepresented landmark property types as are only three other landmarks associated with lgbtq heritage. designations of buildings and underrepresented areas. there are only three other landmark buildings in the nearby vicinity. and designation of properties with strong cultural associations. the property has significant cultural associations with lgbtq heritage. the property owner is very supportive of landmark designation. there is no known public opposition to designation of this location on and the department received several
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letters in support of designation including a couple of new letters that were included in your pocket. the department believes the building meets established eligibility requirements and landmark staff is warranted. the department recommends the hbc recommend landmark designation to the board of supervisors if recommended today that the department will forward the designation onto the board of supervisors. this concludes my presentation i am happy to answer any questions property owners are also here today for any questions. >> thank you. do we have any questions for staff? or for the sponsor? at this time we will take public comments. do any members of the public wish to speak to the symmetrically if so please come forward -- speak to this matter? if so, please come forward. we welcome your comments. >> good afternoon commissioners and planning staff.
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i am the lgbtq heritage preservationist and co-author of the statement for lgbtq history. i am here today representing the historical society as the founding chair of the historic places working group. i am speaking in support of this landmark nomination. the paper doll is identified in the lgbtq historic context statement is one of the most important pre1965 public spaces in san francisco. it was foundational in developments of the first lgbtq communities in the city. we, in the community, are overjoyed to see the paper doll landmark nomination moving forward to. this would be the first landmark in the city to recognize the pre 1965 lgbtq history. it would be the first to really highlight lesbian and transgender histories. it would be the first landmark in the country to honour the significance of a queer restaurant, which is very neat. this landmark nomination was a
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completely grassroots effort prepared by the building owner and her sun. both heterosexual allies. the research and the landmark reports blew me away. it is exhaustive. it was written completely by the two even though there is one page that attributes part of it to me. i had nothing to do with it. i have been an advocate this whole time. the most important part, i want to say, or the most important part of this to me is that this process was completely community driven, which we really wanted to see something to come out of the historical context statement just like the community doll, it self was community driven. the community made the paper doll in the paper really made community. so thank you commissioners. i hope you will continue this work. the nomination of this important building. >> thank you. does any other member of the public wish to comment on this item?
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we will close public comments. commissioners? >> thank you. thank you for your comments. i hope that's we can highlight the letter that was included in the nomination from sandra luna where she talked about all of the challenges her father had to keep the paper doll alive and even going to court and forfeiting all their savings to make a strong point. i think that is a really important thing to learn and to continue to share in this day and age that people go all the way to fight for what is right. i think this is really important >> thank you. >> very briefly, we don't have lots of time but i really appreciate the project sponsor
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going further with this report. it is beautifully done. i hope something more happens to the history of the paper doll and all the things that are in this report. more than just staying in the staff report. i strongly support this project, this nomination. >> thank you. i would echo those comments. the report was really well done. it was fascinating to read and we should find a way to publicize it and get it out there. it was just a really well done -- from the staff side and from the sponsor side. thank you. >> do i have a motion? >> i make a motion. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners. on that motion to approve these matters. [roll call] >> excuse me. you are right. recommend to the board of supervisors.
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>> [roll call] >> so moved. that passes unanimously 6-0. in places us on item line. 925 pierce street. a certificate of appropriateness >> afternoon commissioners. department staff. it is a contributing property within the landmark square district. the subject property was developed with a three story over basement residential structure. it contains 12 dwelling units currently and was completed in 1912. an elaborate -- elaborate brickwork are found all of the pedestrian elevations. the proposal predominately entails the infill of the building single garage opening that was vertically oriented and it meets the wooden face and still within the same opening.
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the work is part of the conversion of existing garage and storage space to one new accessory dwelling unit. the department has received no correspondence in support or opposition to the project. the a garage opening appears to be original to the building by the department believes this element is not a character defining feature of the property or surrounding district. the system would be composed of which. a material that is character defining and ubiquitous within the district felt remains visually differentiated given its placement within the opening in distinction from the breakfast thought. staff is therefore determining that the proposed work with the recommended conditions would be in conformance of the requirements outlined in a pent -- in the appendix of the planning code and the secretary secretary of interior standards. based on that analysis, we recommend approval with the following conditions for the project sponsor should provide final details regarding the attachment of the infill system with existing building reveals to department staff reviewing approval pick sponsor should contact department staff to
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arrange a site visit for the review and approval of a mockup of the wood infill systems attachment to an existing building reveal and material samples for any replacement brick that may be needed that shall be provided to department staff or approval. that concludes my presentation. i believe the project architect is in attendance and i am happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. do you have a question? >> if these garages and all these buildings are original and they reflect the developments of these 1920s and 1930s buildings, why are they then not character defining? >> this came up with a previous project. in the pocket and in the motion that was passed by the commission, we found these were not -- that neither the designating ordinance itself for the report to make mention to
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automobile oriented development or these openings at the base of these apartment block buildings as being significant. they were never even referenced. it goes into lengthy discussion of what the character defining features of the square are. >> there is a much more deep discussion in the pockets. it is the same language we have used but neither of these documents never once made reference to them. on the features that are highlighted in those highlighted uses. the character defining features are well detailed within the ordinance. if that was -- when that was made that they felt his character defining one would think that would be highlighted. thank you. desa sponsor wish to make any
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presentations? -- does the sponsor wish to make any presentations? >> a picture is worth 1,000 words. >> would five minutes be sufficient? >> i wish commissioner hyland was here because he is so keenly interested in the infilling of the garage openings. >> yeah. >> i am sure we will see more. >> my name is serena. i am the project architect for the project located at 925 pierce. i did a quick presentation that will show you some more photos of the scope of work. i will just click through. this is the building located on the corner of pierce and golden gate avenue. you can see i have put in red a box that shows on the bottom right corner exactly where the garage door is and where the unit will be located. this will be a two bedroom one
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bathroom unit located in the corner. and facing onto both street frontage is this is the current garage. you will see there is a tradesman corridor with a door on the far top that will stay and then there is electrical equipment just below that that will be moving over and creating a little vestibule. you will come in to where there is an existing window and we are lowering the fill height to create the door and then where the garage door is, we are infilling to the exact proportions with double hung windows to match the proportions of the existing building above. you will notice that we have a couple of steps up to the bedroom so you can achieve egress height without massive modifications to the other windows fronting on to pierce. the rear bedroom, because of light and ventilation and egress , we proposed to change the single window into a pair of windows also aligned with the windows above. illustrated that changes to the façade here with the garage door
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with the openings that we are modifying and you can see in the elevation on the right that we are putting the door where the window was in infilling the two double hung windows and the garage door. we are locating below the window sill and set up a brick and felt a match and we are doing a separate material to identify that this was a different opening historically and then on the side you can see over here the site slopes up and tucks behind this car. it is a one window that we will be making into a pair of windows aligned with the windows directly above it right there. that is at. >> rates. thank you. >> thank you very much. do you have any other comments? >> for the purposes of the discussion, i would like to highlight under the new delegation capped this project would have to come before you as it involves new openings on primary as well as elevations but under the new delegation,
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infill strictly within a garage opening is now staff level approval and we would appreciate guidance on proposed treatments and the appropriateness of this one and ideas and stuff for the future. i want to note that. >> the golden gate street side would not come before us in terms of if it was just that but it is because the pierce street side where we are doing the double windows. >> as well as extended opening. this was noticed before the delegation came up. we probably could have reworked it. >> any public comment? >> i have a question. >> the question is, if i understood correctly, somebody said that this garage door was original. >> thank you. >> i would remind the commissioners that there are many places where we have permitted garages to be inserted that we have removed so we could
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remove budget additional siding and windows. >> may be what -- >> is there any members of the public who wish to comment on this item? if so, please come forward. seeing and hearing then, we will close public comment. >> i was just asking for the sake of understanding and now i can respond to your more recent question. i think this is a very appropriate way to infill a garage by not putting the brick underneath and having a wood panel and some kind -- there are other panels on the building, even if there was a raised panel , something that was consistent with the design of the building would be very appropriate. i think this is exactly the way we should be looking at it and not trying -- especially because it was 1100 film or when we kept talking about the brick and finding matching brick. that will always be difficult.
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>> the grading was more challenging relative to where the garage we are paying for and the height of the floors. >> i would say it is a really nice project and it is really well done and perfectly appropriate. >> i would make a motion to approve. >> there is a motion. >> second. >> if nothing further commissioners, there is a motion that has been seconded to approve this matter with conditions. on that motion. [roll call] >> so moved. that motion passes unanimously 6 -0. it places us on items ten a through c. for properties at 3630 balboa street and 2117 chestnut street and 5030 gary boulevard respectively.
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>> hello, commissioners. as you heard, there are three applications before you today for your review and recommendation to the office of the small business commission. the first is the balboa theatre located at 3630 balboa street. the theater opened in february of 1926. the original owner hired a renowned architect to design and build a neighborhood theater to serve the outer richmond district. the building theater was originally that had a single auditorium that sat approximately 800 people. in 1978, the theater was converted into a two screen theater and in 2004, gary meyer bought the business and sold it to its current owners, excuse me
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for my mispronunciation. today the balboa theatre shows a combination of first round feature films and themed screenings along with family-friendly movies every saturday morning and classic films on thursday evening. i wanted to note that the balboa theatre is mentioned in one of our local historic context statements. specifically the draft san francisco neighborhood movie theater nondoes not continue multiple property historic district which was prepared in 2006. the report provides background from the theater, specifically for the theater types and the combination theater type which was originally designed to allow for vaudeville and moving pictures. it does not provide much information about the balboa
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theatre. they staff is recommending that we recommend approval to the small business commission. we are recommending the following features be protected. the marquee, the primary façade with his shaped parapet, wending opening -- window openings, the entrance, the linking is to the front openings, the blade sign, the interior spaces including the ticketing area, the lobby and the original single auditorium volume, the original interior, ornamental features and the film programming. that takes us to our second application which is for fireside camera located at 2117 chestnut street. it was founded in 1954 by william and yvonne fireside as an independent photo store in the marina district. for 40 or more years, they
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specialize in weddings, portraits and event photography and becoming one of san francisco's most renowned wedding photographers. in the 1970s, the photography became more commonplace and people started taking their own family pictures. fireside studios evolved and added retail to its services. its name was changed to fireside camera to reflect this change. at the turn-of-the-century, they decided to retire and offered the store to three of their employees who purchased the business and are now the current owners. staff is recommending support of this application and recommending the following features to be protected. the selection of new and used camera equipment, the film processing and digital printing services, the signage and the cabinets which were originally bought by the fireside. that takes us to our third application. the house of bagels located at
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5030 gary boulevard. it opened in 1962 and its original location on second avenue and gary boulevard up in the richmond district. their famous bagel recipe and manufacturing process are brought here from brooklyn, new york by a native new yorker. they serve the jewish and east coast community with an authentic east coast bakery experience. they opened with this business and ran it with his wife. in the -- in 1964, they hired a man who started working at the house of bagels and eventually became the second owner. the staff is recommending approval and recommendation of approval to the small business commission and we are recommending the following features to be protected. the bagel sign from 1968, the mural back the original new york style bagel recipe and methods and the artisan baked goods. that concludes my presentation and please let me know if you have any questions.
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>> great. why don't we move to public comments. does any member of the public wish to comment on the items? or any of the members wish to -- yes, come and talk about bagels. [laughter] >> you have been here for this hole here and might as well tell us. >> i have actually owned house of bagels with my wife for 13 years now. and something she didn't mention , the person that was just speaking right now -- we are the first actual boiled bagel west of the mississippi. >> but you are the best. [laughter] >> that was the tagline for a long time. the original but still the best. this whole thing during the legacy project was quite an experience. i learned so much about the business over the last ten years
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i got to go into the crazy advertisements because they are so simple compared to what you are used to today. i want to talk about to customers. two types of customers that we really appreciate. we like all of our customers and love them all, the first is the east coast expatriots that have come to san francisco and they come to our store and i remember this one woman who started crying. she did not know that we were there and she showed up and she said this is just like home. and the second thing, especially when i worked in the story, which i don't do very often now, i don't do at all anymore, was meeting people and san franciscans who talk about having come there with their parents or their grandparents. and even supervisor fewer who recommended us. she is a customer and she was talking about bringing her kids and she would bring them to school and stuff like that. it is really nice to be part of the community and be a business that is recognized. any time you tell somebody when we are bound in another place that we have history in san
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francisco, and if they have lived here for a while, they know us and it is a really good feeling for them. so that is -- i also wanted to thank the legacy business folks that helped us. they did such a good job. the process is an onerous process for someone running a business. but they were so helpful. it was really good so i want to recognize him and told them they did a great job. >> does any other member of the public wish to comment on these items? >> my name is spencer and i'm one of the co-owners of fireside camera picked a couple of things they did not touch on in the speech was that the three co-owners have been working at the story for 30-40 years. we have been running the store since 1985. it is pretty much ongoing. fifteen years we have been working hand-in-hand with the fireside before they retired and passed away unfortunately.
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we have been there forever and we are happy to have a chance to be in a legacy program. >> thank you, very much. >> hello, my name is adam and i i'm the owner of the theater, along with my wife. we purchased it from gary in 2012 and i think when we did this, i'm woefully unprepared. i don't think we realize just what an integral part of the neighborhood it was when we purchased it. we knew we loved it and we suspected that everyone else did but we did not realize just how it is the glue that holds that neighborhood together you can really feel that. at this point we know all the customers by name and people, just this week, a couple told me they had their first date at the balboa theatre in 1945 and they were coming back to see another
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movie this week and they have been coming the whole time. lately we have been -- people have gotten big interest in the playland and there has been a lot of news about the playland. we have acquired a lot. we have become the unofficial home of playland memorabilia. we are in the process now of redecorating it to show a little bit of that. that is an integral part of the neighborhood as well. i don't know where i'm going with all of this but i feel like the balboa theatre is what a legacy business is and i think this designation will help to perpetuate it and keep it going. it is touch and go with the business like that. movies come and go and in fashion as far as going to the movies. i thank you for your time and i appreciate it. >> thank you. does any member of the comment -- of the public wish to comment on this item? i will close public comments.
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i want to thank the business owners are coming out here. we have had a long hearing. we really appreciate your comments. it is helpful for us and informative and great for the public to hear. >> what i keep thinking about is listening to your comments and thank you for performing and echoing our esteemed president. is the word defamation is becoming -- destination. with destination this and destination data. i'm thinking about my life in san francisco, almost 50 or 60 years now. those places where -- you made a special trip to the house of bagels and you made that part of your agenda and part of your week. he went to the balboa theatre and i did not go that much to fireside camera but i know where you are and that is a great place to be. i just want to thank you. these are truly legacy businesses and the whole idea
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that you are retaining the destination as part of the neighborhood is absolutely terrific. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> my first movie was at the balboa theatre. i grew up right down the block on fulton and you are the one left on that street that is from back in the day except for that bar across the street. hockey haven or whatever it is. but i think, and my girlfriend and i who always visited and went to the theater when we are in middle school still remember all the movies. we continue to hold great memories and the house of bagels , i only grew up with the house of bagels. that was the only bagel i knew and i knew what a difference between the real bagel at a fake bagel was. i am so happy. these are two legacy businesses that i grew up with and i'm so happy that you are here and that we can support you. >> thank you.
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>> i echo the comments that the other commissioners made. there is just one thing that really struck me. which is the presentation considering the house of bagels. there are several references that were made to expatriate east coasters. this is important because there were no bagels in san francisco as far as i have been able to determine, before world war ii. after world war ii when so many people moved here, one of my older relatives said bagels were an entirely new phenomenon and many people couldn't figure out what they were or why anyone would want to eat one. but obviously, there was a great audience and a great demand for them and the house of bagels participated in that.
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>> thank you. >> yeah. i am one of those jewish ex-pats i grew up and my dad had a friend who had a deli and we had east coast bagels coming out here. it was very frustrating to search around for bagels because things like noah's and others were just not bagels. i so appreciate. they are not real bagels. as we just found out, they did not exist here until even the early sixties when the house of bagels opened. i was also thrilled to find out the fireside camera was named for someone who is named fireside. i just assumed it was just a nice generic name. also, i wanted to mention that if you have been there -- if your staff and you have been there for 30 and 40 years, you are the legacy. that is the thing that is so impressive for me. the people that make them are the legacy. you guys are san francisco.
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as well as the fact that the business might have been there before you. you are the ones who are making sure that it is a legacy and continues to be a legacy. also balboa theatre have been there many times and have interesting memories of different movies that were on the marquee at the same time. it is before your time, probably in the nineties, where there would be contrasting film names, is almost a joke. it was just a great part of the legacy of the theater itself. thank you. >> thank you. >> i am a fan of all three businesses. the word destination does apply here. none of these businesses are anywhere near where i left but i go there and they make a special effort to go there. i wanted to mention the camera store. it is a rarity that the camera store, there is a brick-and-mortar camera store anywhere.
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so i really congratulate your tenure and the fact that you have done whatever it took to stay there. the internet competition is pretty rough. >> thank you. >> thank you. i just wanted the businesses that are here today to be informed that we are going to be launching. is that right shelley and rick? we will be launching our logo and marketing campaign for the legacy business and it is officially going to happen at our next meeting. can you come up and share? just as a further promotional point for all of you, i think it is important for you to hear. >> short. i'm with a legacy big -- legacy business program manager. we will be presenting our logo. we had hired a company who started working in january, ten months ago and we had a legacy
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marketing and branding committee of people including the commissioners and the office of small business staff in a couple of commissioners from the small business commission. we have a logo and we will be presenting it to the small business commission on monday and then also they have been working on a marketing promotion and branding plan. they will be touching upon that a little bit. and then your next meeting will be presenting the same presentation about the logo. so we are excited to bring that to you. if you have any questions i am happy to answer. >> thank you, very much. >> is there a motion to forward these with the the recommendations? >> i move we support the three recommendations for a legacy business. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners. on that motion to adopt recommendations for approval on all three matters. [roll call]
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>> so moved. that motion passes unanimously 6 -0. finally, staff is requesting a continuance of item 11. the façade retention part for informational presentation to december 5th, 2018. >> is there anybody in the public who wishes to make a public comment about the continuance of this matter? seeing and hearing none, we close public comment. do we have a motion to continue this item? >> i move to continue. >> second. >> on that motion to continue item 11 to december 5th. [roll call] >> yes. >> thank you. that motion passes unanimously. >> i believe our hearing is now adjourned.
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