>> it was important to the tech council and reflective of our mission and vision and leveraged the members expertise. in starting to develop this, we have come up with data points that illustrate why we've chosen it. we know that about 25% of the city's population consists of adults with disability and older adults. age 60 plus, that 70% are not in the labor force. among people with the disabilities age 18-59. about 50% are not in the labor force. so, we know there's -- we have worked with people and we know there's a desire to have abilities and have access to those work environments. that one is the one that floated to the top for us. so what we have done, in terms

of our process, we have a strategic planning workgroup that is meeting every couple of weeks now. we have some consultants that are helping us walk through our process to make sure that we cover all the bases and we expect to have a firm direction identified by the end of the year. this is wonderful timing for us to be here to get your input on the work that we're doing. going a little bit deeper, on what we're calling our current strategic focus to understand, utilize and expand opportunities for older adults and adults with disabilities at the intersection of technology and employment. so that we can increase technology skills and job pathways, increase employment among those actively seeking work. diversify the workplace and add value to businesses' bottom line. it's how we circle around the

other players in this area? we know the demand for workers is high. if you walk around the city, you can see signs for hire everywhere. so there's a mismatch going on. so much has changed because of the technology these days. i mean, we may have learned things 10 years ago but all of that advances over the years. how do people stay current. how do people access jobs? so we're asking ourselves, the questions we're asking ourselves, as we go through our process, is how can the tech council be a add value to this issue? what are the specific workforce development priorities and strategies that could be addressed? what are the strategic actions we can take. how can the tech council efforts lead to greater inflatio equity employment. how do we show, when we do it, we've had an impact. that's an overview of what we're

doing. we are midway in the process. i don't have results to share with you. i wanted to give you the framework and our goal. we have several questions for you, if you would be helpful and interested in responding to some of those. >> right. one of the things that i think the tech council is hoping to do today is to hear specifically, from you, in terms of some specific questions. >> yes. >> so we're a little bit off format but not really. that concludes your overview pretty much, right? >> yes. >> ok. go ahead. >> so we have made a real effort to talk to a lot of different types of businesses and to non profits, service providers and could consumers. that's really giving us the on the ground look at what people are experiencing and what's going. but we'd be interesting in

knowing from you, based on what i've said, if there's anything you -- any stories you have or what you would like to share about your own experience with employment. in your own work. >> alex, did you want to speak? >> and then kate. >> i think what we'll do first is, because as part of the presentation, i think susan asked specific questions for you. and then i think we will still have the part where you can ask additional questions unless you need clarification in advance. >> very good. >> ok. >> all right. >> so that's what i'm saying, we're reversing a little bit because there's specific questions for you. and then you still have an opportunity to ask additional questions. >> ok.

>> kate. what are the questions? >> wait for the questions and we'll go to kate. >> i want to ask you a question. i ask that one more time? ask the questions one more time. of course. >> it's a broad question and it's do you have experiences in your own work environments or getting jobs or keeping jobs? that you'd like to talk about? >> ok, so, i would like to talk. is this the appropriate time? >> yes, go ahead, please. >> my name is kate williams. i run the employment program at the light house for the blind and visually impaired. we could have some silos within our organization, and i may not be aware we have started working with you. but if not, i would think it's

imperative that -- >> you are on our list. we have your name and another person. maybe we were recently introduced by e-mail. >> yes, we were. >> thank you so much. >> i just want to make sure that we have a voice. i agree with you, in our community, i know we're a narrow part of the disabled committee on the whole, but our rate of unemployment is extremely high. in the city, we've been working with the ace program. there are many initiatives that are taking place. we need to bring down that figure. i really would like to be engage with your efforts. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> right now, we're sharing

experiences. [laughter] if nobody has experienced to share she has another question. [laughter] >> i've got -- i'm going to answer your questions. [laughter] i'm going to try to for me. so my name is helen smolinski and i have a daughter with multiple severe disabilities. she's wheelchair bound and fed by a tube. she has vision issues and hearing, et cetera. she's eight-years-old. now, this may not be the kind of experience you were looking to hear about. quite honestly, i'm hesitant to raise it or i've been hesitant in the past. when we talk about employment for older adults and people with disabilities, i don't fall into either category. that being said, i know myself, from my own experience with my

daughter and other parents, i am in contact with, who have children with disabilities, it's difficult for us to -- i was a lawyer and i am still a lawyer. but not employed as a lawyer once i had my daughter. it was difficult for me to go back to that type of work. to workout of the home quite frankly. at the same time, the way the workforce is going, there's a lot of work for people remotely. so you think ok, well that's an easy -- let's find something like that. i can do something from home. that's great. that being said, with my daughter's complex medical needs and care, she was out of school the month of january last year. i needed to take care of her. that's my job. it has been for eight years.

again, i'm happy to do it. i feel i know her best in terms of her care. my wife and i often wonder if we hadn't been in a rent-controlled apartment in san francisco, how would we have been able to do it with me taking care of her? so that issue remains, today, and so my suggestion, for what it's worth, would be to think about this population of parents. mothers, fathers, caregivers, who can't go back to that type of work and just needs a hybrid that they can do at home that maybe they can ramp up and back as needed depending on their child's care. that is my two cents. thank you for asking the question.

>> in another part of my life i work on family care giving issues so i'd be happy to talk to you. at this for telling us that. >> yes, yes, ok. >> i'm go to echo. i have the exact same situation as helen except that my daughter passed away four years ago and getting back into the workforce after a nearly 20-year -- i was also a lawyer. we have parallel lives here. i do some stuff from home but it's been -- the impact of that, i'll never recover from it. it doesn't seem like it should be necessary. >> can i answer your question? >> yes, you are on. >> go ahead. >> so, my worker would like to chime in. >> one more second. we've got alex next and then you

are next after alex. >> my biggest issue when i am looking for a job is that, some employers when they interviews me and where they get intervie interview -- when it comes to the hiring process. now my question to you is that

the new people versus or they don't, are you preparing them to employment and making sure those companies are ready to hire those individuals? >> your question, if i heard it correctly, if businesses are stepping up to make it easier for people to apply for jobs? >> yes. that's my issue. >> ok. >> to answer your questions. >> i was just -- maybe suzanne will get to this. i think that intersection is one of the intersections that the tech council could potentially look at. so if that's one that you would

like to highlight, that's what i would roll ahead. >> yes. >> we'll say in the work that the research that we've been doing we've heard that theme a lot. sort of how stretch rus treacheo navigate the interview process. and how some companies seem to have embraced the idea of making the accommodations necessary or having a social responsibility commitment to hire people with disabilities but not all of them for sure. we're definitely exploring that. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you, alex. let's go to orchid. >> ok. yes, i just want to make this short before i sign off. it's interesting how the older adults with disabilities are also part of the problem. i think many of us are maybe over qualified and then the interview process sometimes seems like forever just to get

to the point of adding more things, more modifications, more accommodations and so many companies don't know what to do with us. either deaf or any other disability. they don't have the expectations and the responsibilities especially with interpreting, you know, so many companies have the money to provide the interpreter but they're just not sure how to do it. especially the human resources department. h.r. people think that they're experts and i think not. the problem is, they just simply don't know really how to engage in a conversation like this and it becomes more frustrating to find the job and many of us are really frustrated having all these office goals trying to break the glass ceiling. so we have to educate that. are they really listening? that's the question. i feel like we have to double the work aggressively much it's the culture of today's technology company. it's very different than in the

past. you know. today younger people, energetic people, motivated people with new innovative ideas, many of us are older and we have different ideas, different interests, different cultures. it's definitely a challenging to be fitting into the common. that's just my two cents before i sign off. >> thank you, orchid. >> thank you. really appreciate that. now i'm going to put denise on. >> i'll make my comments kind of short and sweet. i think in some areas it's very -- as been mentioned from other council members, it's very frustrating as an older adult going through the process. first, you have to a fie resources and then basically what you have to do is, from the very beginning, especially if you need to change careers, depending on people's situations and examples that are on council, then people want to

make livable wages where they can stay and live in the city. they need to learn new skill sets to be competitive and we understand to other presentations how important technology is. but that can be very frustrating. myself as an older adult, semi retiring, going through that process now, updating my skill sets through technology, setting and learning about the interview process, how to bring myself up to speed. it's kind of overwhelming at times. i'm fortunate because i know were the resources are, who to call besides my colleagues here and get help and advice. not everyone is always in that situation. the other part of it and we've discussed it before, that some people that are on a fixed social security. they have to be able to understand if they transition into employment, they want to make sure they keep their benefits. that's also a challenge for some

older adults on a fixed income. they want to keep their benefits but they want to be committed and make enough money to live here and be close to their families and their communities. that's a separate piece part. but that's part of the equation of the frustration of looking for a job. there's nothing wrong with minimum wage and everybody's skills set and that's a separate conversation. you want to make enough to eat and live in the city and some a quality of life. going through these different processes in venues sometimes are overwhelming. to say the least. if you are transitioning to something different. having these resources there for people to know who to reach out to and going through the process, one set at a time doesn't seem overwhelming because some days i scratch my head and say what do i do now? what have i not covered. the good we're talking about interviewing skills and bringing people up-to-date and technology. i think these are conversations

that still need to happen and we're definitely here now that we got it straight what we want to share and what feel comfortable in sharing to help you with that process. we want people to be able to enter the workforce at whatever age, have access to the workforce, have the necessary technology to keep them employed and to move ahead if they'd like to. that's it. short and sweet. >> thank you. >> all right. well we're giving you a lot of feedback. >> it seems to me your definition of older adult stops at 59. >> no. not that i want to reveal anything. there are people older. >> it's 60 and above. [laughter] we don't go that ridgedly anyway. >> sally, i'm really glad you brought that up.

because i won't reveal my exact age but i don't fall under 60. i'm a little bit above that. i want to stay in touch with you too. i'll make my comment now. i run my own business as a california licensed insurance agent. i'm working with a financial group to provide a variety of insurance. i do work remotely. i work with people to sign them up over the phone with applications. we run it through our different process to see whether they're qualified. my challenge is technology. yes, i have text to speech. yes i have a display but how accessible is this technology with data basis and internet, web sites and i have the challenge of working with people by telephone and online.

it's a great challenge. i relish it. i'm doing it primarily from my home office. you know, i don't want to be out working for an employer 40 hours a week. although i do some work outside of my home office. nevertheless, i want to work with you too. i want to be able to reach out to people who are seniors that want to do the work that i do. it's like blazing a trail. it's exciting. all right. so go ahead. >> yes. >> i just said thank you. >> i have another comment. >> did you have a comment you want to respond? >> anymore questions? >> i think she has one more question if that's all right. >> sure. >> so the question we would ask is what is the most -- the question you just answered. it's what is the most important

role technology plays for you as it intersects with your employment experiences. >> in my case? >> yes, it plays a major role. i've run into situations where i didn't have the technology. i've gone through quite a frustrating process. different financial groups, they're not interested in working with people with disabilities. i found one that does. the training, for example, i found out is all on mp3 files. i'm going yeah, that's what i want! because there's so many people who provide what's called focus technology. and jaws, which is my text to speech reader, it doesn't understand that. whatsoever. so i think i found the right niche. people who have the right technology but we still have challenges ahead. i just want to be able to make it possible so that other blind

people or persons of disabilities don't go through some of the frustrations that i've gone through. >> susan, to answer your question from my experience -- >> alex, make it brief. we're running a little late. >> we're ok. >> anyways, i'm going to answer your question. i think like resources on buying what i need to do my job. for example, i understand some employers or most employers require to make recommendations

but some companies cannot provide those resources and making those recommendations. i think it's good to think about what are the resources to help individuals to find those technologies that can help them to do what they need to do at their job. >> thank you. >> the answer to your question, what role does technology play. not only for myself, as a much older individual, but for the clients that i work with. it's imperative. it's not just in the job search that one needs to know their technology inside and out. but you also need to be able to

perform in the job. technology is essential in being able to function almost in any job that is there today. job retention. so if you can't do your job because you don't have the technology to do your job, it impacts every single part of becoming employed and staying employed. retaining that job. so, it's becoming more and more complicated. it's not just learning a new technology to be able to do a word document or excel, now we have phones and we have everything that we touch is around technology and without the kind of training and even time to have that training available to us is just almost overwhelming. i see so many of our older adults give up. they just can't face that challenge and the time and energy it takes.

it i think it's 100% of our challenge is technology. thank you. >> very, very well put. for an older person so easy to give up. anyone else want to answer that question? >> i think we did quite well. [laughter] >> as i said earlier, technology is the thing for today. >> can i just like to say thank you so much for being so open with all of us. it's really very helpful to us. we'll take it to heart as we work through our process. thank you. >> we look forward to staying in touch with you. in my case, i'd like to have further input on what you are doing and i'm sure that my other colleagues would like to as well. >> wonderful. >> all right. anyone else on the staff want to

make comments? >> the mayor's office municipality is deeply involved with the tech council strategic planning process also. so we look forward to continuing partnership on this issue and i just want to say thank you to the tech council for raising this issue up. it was something that was much needed and we're very glad to go support it. you will all be drawn into this since you all volunteered. [laughter] hooray. and thank you. >> we have a comment. >> that concludes your presentation but we do have a comment from the public. public comment. >> april from the people with disabilities foundation. >> hello. i'm not so good at speaking so i brought notes. i apologize if i sound a little -- my name is april. i am the executive director at people with disabilities

foundation or pwdf. pwdf is a public non-profit agency in the civic center. i wanted to share some information about people with disabilities foundation services related to employment. we provide legal services for people with psychiatric and intellectual or developmental disabilities as well as public awareness and educational events. our attorneys provide legal consultation and represent individuals on cases that involve disability benefits, employment, housing, education, and in other areas of life including discrimination in program access. and due process issues. our attorneys primarily represent claimants for social security disability benefits including post entitlement and eligibility for benefits which goes to the point that co-chair denise senhaux made about making sure that people don't lose their benefits when they're

transitioning to employment. as part of this work, over a nearly six-year period, pwdf sued the social security administration on behalf of two san francisco residents who have a combination of mental or developmental disabilities. we brought this suit under section 504 of the rehabilitation act of 1973, claiming that the social security administration failed to provide these men with equal meaningful access to social security work incentive programs. and we successfully settled the case obtaining reasonable accommodations based on mental disability for our clients. i will add that case is still in the enforcement stage and will be throughout the clients working life. many attorneys and agencies, we believe, including those funded by the city, will not take cases where the client is already a social security beneficiary but is being terminated from benefits and that is because

there isn't a lot of money in it for the attorneys. pwdf fills this void, especially as it applies to work reviews. the social security administration has increased its quota of worker views and it dis preportion atly terminates mental disabilities for working. for these reasons and because of the lack of attorneys that take these cases we hold a monthly legal clinic to advise disability beneficiaries from being terminated from benefits. especially those who are trying to work. our attorneys work on a sliding fee scale. we do not turn down a client if the case has merit. even if the client cannot pay. our education program provides educational workshops on social security work incentives programs and held numerous free public awareness seminars on employment issues and produce professional videos. i see i'm out of time. i brought information if i could give to nicole. >> sure. >> thank you.

for more information about our services check out website at wwwpwdt.org or call (415)931-3707. thank you. >> i think we have one more speaker. >> tiffany yu. >> hi, my name is tiffany with diverse ability. i just want to say three things. number one, as an adult with a disability, i'm not an older adult and so my generation is the first that has grown up as digital natives and so our digital inclusion needs are different than older adults so that's something -- i've been able to attend a couple of s.f. tech council meetings which i've been grateful to attend. i wanted to keep in mind the needs are different between older adults and those of us who are 18-35 or 45. the second thing i want to say

is a lot of the implement programs that i see within disability employment are entry level with no pass for advancement. there's been a lot of talk today about losing benefits. if we're not providing people with long-term sustained employment, at competitive salaries, then there's no incentive there to want to switch over to that. the third thing i'll say is that earlier this year, i actually piloted a program to train people with disabilities to learn about sales force software. over the next five years, they're going to be three million jobs created with not enough people to fill those and so we've done the pilot. it was sold out. we partnered with the california department of rehabilitation. we're actually looking for some energy, a couple more people to kind of buy into turn this program into reality that we could grow much larger. thank you. >> may i make a comment to her comment. >> yes. >> can we talk?

[laughter] i'm on board with you. >> thank you. >> so can you do networking here too. i like that. are there anymore public comments? no more cards. anyone want to volunteer on the spot? ok. it looks like we've gone -- let's see. we've gone through number nine, public comment then. >> this is a different public comment. >> on number eight. i got it. all right. so now let's go to number nine. which is public comment of items not on today's agenda but within our jurisdiction. any cards? anybody in the audience want to come forward? how about on the bridge line?

>> there is no one on the bridge line. >> no one on the bridge line. no public comments. that concludes item number 9. let's go to number 10. which is correspondents. >> there's no correspondents for the council today. >> ok. all right. thank you, very much. well we do have enough time. see it ended up just right. number 11, discussion items. are there any council members with comments or announcements? anybody? >> no one. >> i don't think i have one either at this time. that brings us to number 12 which is adjournment.

wow. does anyone want to make a motion to adjourn? >> i make a motion to adjourn. >> i second that. >> it's been moved. all in favor. >> aye. >> all right. and i go aye. this meeting is adjourned. thank you for coming. -

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>> hi, i'm lawrence corn field. welcome to building san francisco. we have a special series, stay safe. we're looking at earthquake issues. and today we're going to be talking with a residential building owner about what residential building owners and tenants can and should do before earthquakes and after earthquakes. ♪ ♪ >> we're here at this wonderful spur exhibit on mission street in san francisco and i have with me today my good friend george. thanks for joining me, george. and george has for a long time owned residential property here in san francisco. and we want to talk about apartment buildings and what the owner's responsibilities might be and what they expect

their tenants to do. and let's start by talking a little bit about what owners can do before an earthquake and then maybe after an earthquake. >> well, the first thing, lawrence, would be to get together with your tenants and see if they have earthquake insurance or any renters insurance in place because that's going to be key to protecting them in the event of a quake. >> and renters insurance, there are two kinds of insurance. renters insurance coffers damage to goods and content and so forth. earthquake insurance is a separate policy you get after you get renters insurance through the california earthquake authority, very inexpensive. and it helps owners and it helps tenants because it gives relocation costs and it pays their rent. this is a huge impact on building owners. >> it's huge, it really is. you know, a lot of owners don't realize that, you know, when there is an earthquake, their money flow is going to stop. how are they going to pay their mortgages, how are they going to pay their other bills, how

are they going to live? >> what else can property owners do in residential rental housing before an earthquake? >> well, the first thing you want to do is get your property assessed. find out what the geology is at your site. get an expert in to look at structural and nonstructural losses. the structural losses, a lot of times, aren't going to be that bad if you prepare. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. get in there and get your property assessed and figure it out. >> so, what is a nonstructural issue that might cause losses? >> well, you know, pipes, for instance. pipes will whip around during an earthquake. and if they're anchored in more numerous locations, that whipping won't cause a breakage that will cause a flood. >> i've heard water damage is a major, major problem after earthquakes actually. >> it is. that's one of the big things. a lot of things falling over, ceilings collapsing. but all of this can be prevented by an expert coming

in and assessing where those problem areas and often the fixes are really, really cheap. >> who do you call when you want to have that kind of assessment or evaluation done? >> the structural engineering community is great. we have the structural engineers association of northern california right here in san francisco. they're a wealth of information and resources. >> what kinds of things might you encourage tenants to do besides simply get tenants renters insurance and earthquake insurance, what else do you think tenants should do? >> i think it's really important to know if they happen to be in the building where is the safest place for them to go when the shaking starts. if they're out of the building, whats' their continuity plan for connecting with family? they should give their emergency contact information to their resident manager so that the resident manager knows how to get in touch. and have emergency supplies on hand. the tenants should be

responsible to have their extra water and flashlights and bandages and know how to use a toilet when there's no sewage and water flows down. and the owners of the building should be proactive in that regard as well. >> so, george, thank you so much for joining us. that was really great. and thanks to spur for hosting us here in this wonderful exhibit. and thank you for joining us >> this is one place you can always count on to give you

what you had before and remind you of what your san francisco history used to be. >> we hear that all the time, people bring their kids here and their grandparents brought them here and down the line. >> even though people move away, whenever they come back to the city, they make it here. and they tell us that. >> you're going to get something made fresh, made by hand and made with quality products and something that's very, very good. ♪ >> the legacy bars and restaurants was something that was begun by san francisco simply to recognize and draw attention to the establishments. it really provides for san francisco's unique character. ♪ >> and that morphed into a request that we work with the city to develop a legacy business registration.

>> i'm michael cirocco and the owner of an area bakery. ♪ the bakery started in 191. my grandfather came over from italy and opened it up then. it is a small operation. it's not big. so everything is kind of quality that way. so i see every piece and cut every piece that comes in and out of that oven. >> i'm leslie cirocco-mitchell, a fourth generation baker here with my family. ♪ so we get up pretty early in the morning. i usually start baking around 5:00. and then you just start doing rounds of dough. loaves. >> my mom and sister basically handle the front and then i have my nephew james helps and

then my two daughters and my wife come in and we actually do the baking. after that, my mom and my sister stay and sell the product, retail it. ♪ you know, i don't really think about it. but then when i -- sometimes when i go places and i look and see places put up, oh this is our 50th anniversary and everything and we've been over 100 and that is when it kind of hits me. you know, that geez, we've been here a long time. [applause] ♪ >> a lot of people might ask why our legacy business is important. we all have our own stories to tell about our ancestry. our lineage and i'll use one example of tommy's joint. tommy's joint is a place that my husband went to as a child

and he's a fourth generation san franciscan. it's a place we can still go to today with our children or grandchildren and share the stories of what was san francisco like back in the 1950s. >> i'm the general manager at tommy's joint. people mostly recognize tommy's joint for its murals on the outside of the building. very bright blue. you drive down and see what it is. they know the building. tommy's is a san francisco hoffa, which is a german-style presenting food. we have five different carved meats and we carve it by hand at the station. you prefer it to be carved whether you like your brisket fatty or want it lean. you want your pastrami to be very lean. you can say i want that piece

of corn beef and want it cut, you know, very thick and i want it with some sauerkraut. tell the guys how you want to prepare it and they will do it right in front of you. san francisco's a place that's changing restaurants, except for tommy's joint. tommy's joint has been the same since it opened and that is important. san francisco in general that we don't lose a grip of what san francisco's came from. tommy's is a place that you'll always recognize whenever you lock in the door. you'll see the same staff, the same bartender and have the same meal and that is great. that's important. ♪ >> the service that san

francisco heritage offers to the legacy businesses is to help them with that application process, to make sure that they really recognize about them what it is that makes them so special here in san francisco. ♪ so we'll help them with that application process if, in fact, the board of supervisors does recognize them as a legacy business, then that does entitle them to certain financial benefits from the city of san francisco. but i say really, more importantly, it really brings them public recognition that this is a business in san francisco that has history and that is unique to san francisco. >> it started in june of 1953. ♪

and we make everything from scratch. everything. we started a you -- we started a off with 12 flavors and mango fruits from the philippines and then started trying them one by one and the family had a whole new clientele. the business really boomed after that. >> i think that the flavors we make reflect the diversity of san francisco. we were really surprised about the legacy project but we were thrilled to be a part of it. businesses come and go in the city. pretty tough for businesss to stay here because it is so expensive and there's so much competition. so for us who have been here all these years and still be popular and to be recognized by the city has been really a huge honor.

>> we got a phone call from a woman who was 91 and she wanted to know if the mitchells still owned it and she was so happy that we were still involved, still the owners. she was our customer in 1953. and she still comes in. but she was just making sure that we were still around and it just makes us feel, you know, very proud that we're carrying on our father's legacy. and that we mean so much to so many people. ♪ >> it provides a perspective. and i think if you only looked at it in the here and now, you're missing the context. for me, legacy businesses, legacy bars and restaurants are really about setting the context for how we come to be where we are today. >> i just think it's part of san francisco. people like to see familiar stuff.

at least i know i do. >> in the 1950s, you could see a picture of tommy's joint and looks exactly the same. we haven't change add thing. >> i remember one lady saying, you know, i've been eating this ice cream since before i was born. and i thought, wow! we have, too. ♪

>> good evening and welcome to the october 17th 2018 meeting of the san francisco board of appeals. the board president will be the presiding officer tonight. he is joined by commissioner and lazarus and commissioner darrell honda and vice president rick's wake. to my left is the deputy city attorney who will provide the board within the immediate legal advice this evening. at the controls as a legal assistant and i am julie rosenberg. the executive director. we will also be joined by representatives from the city departments that have cases before the board this evening. the urban forest are from san francisco public works and bureau of organ for history and