signs, and speed. what we do is we varied our locations depending on our statistics. our most recent example would be 19th and slote, lake merced, and brotherhood, lake merced and sunset boulevard. brotherhood and arch, but we're always focused on ocean avenue, slote boulevard, sunset boulevard, and 19th avenue, given they are major thoroughfares. to date, the officers have written 4,177 citations to date. let's move on to the goals for 2018-2019. overall goals, crime reduction. of course, that's first and foremost. reducing both violent and

property crimes. second would be traffic collision reduction, as i mentioned, we're engaged with the focus on the 5 initiative. we're going to continue to focus and also conduct enforcement with m.t.a. in areas of the district, and that would include especially small business districts around schools for the morning and afternoon commute, and any area that any resident may have concerns. i'm constantly receiving e-mails from residents because people are running through stop signs. it is a large district, but it's something that i'm happy to take note of, and we can always provide some enforcement. training. if i were to pick one, that would be c.i.t., getting the 25 officers through the 40-hour course. that's first and foremost. and community engagement and relationships, i'll move on to the next slide.

community emersion and youth outreach is a high priority for me. there's a number of neighborhood events hosted by the merchants and residents, and i'd like to highlight several events that have been hosted within the district. first, i'm sure you're aware, and familiar with national night out. we hosted them at two different locations. the first was at mini and lovie ward recreation center. i'd like to thank jackie battle, the supervisor. it was a great success and janice ng, the associate director of ymca. we had a number of attendees. the t.n.t. officers barbecued. we ran out of hot dogs, they had to run out and get more. there were hundreds of hot dogs that were handed out.

backpacks by the "y" were given out, too. it was just an amazing event. the second location we had national night out was at the beach, and that's at 43rd avenue. i'd like to thank san francisco probation and san francisco state for also attending this event, and if there was one big hit, that would have been the magician. i know the kids loved that. the next would be coffee with a cop. we've held them at a number of locations. i prefer trying to use small business venues, so we had them at a number of small businesses throughout the district. it's something that we do every other month. it allows my officers to engage with the community. there's no agenda. we just want to be able to sit there and talk to you about anything and/or if you have concerns, we're happy to answer them, as well, too. so if you haven't had the opportunity, please come to coffee with a cop.

so based on coffee with a cop, thank you to san francisco safe. what we did was, i noticed our community meetings, there was a number of monolingual speakers, i was using a translator to translate to cantonese, therefore, we spun off of that and we started dialogue, which was a great success, especially because i wanted to be able to get the word out in terms of for safety tips and awareness, a number of seniors also attended, and the chinese media was invited, including ktsf, world journal, so it allowed me to be able to reach out to a number of people at each of these events. it's something that we're going to continue doing quarterly. the next was how we spun off with coffee with a cop, it was

milk tea with a cop. it is the a.m. event, equivalent, whereas violent over dim sum is over evening hours, so we can reach out to different members of the community, depending if they work in the day or night, and it's another event that we're going continue doing, and it was beneficial for us, because we'd always be able to reach out to a number of community members. holiday toy drive. hundreds of toys are given out to children during the holidays and this is done at minnie and lovie ward recreation center. i'd like to thank bill barnacle, if you can stand up, bill. amazing. he's been doing this for years. he collects hundreds of toys. [ applause ] and what we do is, i will throw out there, shaun imhoff is

typically our santa claus each year a and the t.m.t. officers are elves and hand out the toys, but thank you very much, bill. youth outreach. our school resource officers, they conduct school visits throughout the year. we participate in safety wellness fairs. we do active-shooter training, as i had mentioned before, but i would say my favorite by far is being able to participate in sunset elementary school's read-aloud day. and if you haven't heard of it, it's usually done on dr. seuss' birthday, so i had the privilege of being able to read a couple of books of my choice, so, of course, my favorites were "green eggs and ham" and "go, dog, go," so it was too much fun to do that. i want to thank principal lee for organizing this.

it's been going on a number of years and i hope i'm invited again next year. monthly meetings. meetings, we meet the first wednesday of the month, and as i mentioned, we're still working on our kids' safe zone, provides a safe zone for students in need or crisis, so what we've done is we've been working with the schools and merchants who have been identified. there's a placard that's available to put in their storefront window to know the merchants are aware of the program and it's a zone close by to a school for children in need to be able to respond. our community meetings held every thursday of the month, and looking forward to hosting our next meeting in the ocean view. and also other parts of the district. i do want to be able to move it around the district, so other community members will be able to attend.

and, of course, our chinese community meetings, our dialogue over dim sum, and our milk tea with a cop events will be continued to be held quarterly. okay, in closing, i'd just like to say i look forward to working with our community and our partners, and our business districts, so they can remain vibrant and continue to make sure that the residents feel that they can go out for a walk and feel comfortable within the district. crime is low, but yet it's never low enough for me. it's something that i will always continue to address. i would like to thank the commissioners for selecting the taraval district, so we could host this at this great venue. thank you very much. i'd also like to thank the chief and the command staff for their support. and i would also like to thank my staff for assisting me with putting this together.

i'd just like to say that as a kid growing up in the richmond district, i never would have thought that i would have the opportunity to do something like this. it's been a lot of fun. thank you very much for the opportunity to work in this district, and i just have a lot of great memories. if all of you recall, i drive by slow and see the doggy diner head and just remember of going to the zoo and then going to doggy diner, and i will be honest with you, yes, i still have my elephant key. i don't think it works anymore, but i still do. again, thank you very much, and it's been a privilege. [ applause ] >> vice president mazzucco: thank you, captain yick. now it's time for public comment. before we start, especially because we have the students here. you keep hearing the term c.i.t. do any of you know what that is? okay, let me tell you a little

bit. that's one of the things this commission has done in collaboration with the police department. it stands for crisis intervention training. which means that our officers are trained now to de-escalate situations. as you're well aware, many of their encounters, probably 60% of their encounters now, are people that are in mental health crisis. and our officers instead of going physical and going hands-on, have learned techniques to de-escalate the situation, to have a conversation, to ask how the person is doing, and these de-escalation techniques that the officers have done have saved lives. violent situations where somebody really doesn't understand where they are at, and their natural reaction is to fight with the officers, or to injure the officers. and so now with this training that our officers have embraced, and i want to tell the captain, i'm very proud that you have 76 of your officers c.i.t. trained and the remaining officers signed up. that's a great number, but it

tells you that police work is changing a bit and you're starting to see where the officers are trying to reason and deal with people, because it's a very difficult situation for the men and women in this police department that serve right now in san francisco. there's an opiate addiction, there's an epidemic, there's people, a lot of people in mental health crisis on the streets. one of your own recent graduates from here was shot by one of them, officer kevin downs, who's a true hero, who was playing football in that field, what, five years ago, six years ago. so it's a new issue that we have to deal with, and the officers work with it. i also want to point out the undercover officers from the t.n.t. team, guys in the back there, they are the reason why a lot of the crime is down in this district, so i want to thank them. before i go further, i want to thank the officers. [ applause ] so, now we're going to move into public comment and questions for the captain. so, sergeant kilshaw?

>> secretary: ladies and gentlemen of the public, public comment is now open. please limit your comments to two minutes. >> vice president mazzucco: okay -- >> secretary: come up to the podium, line up. >> good evening, my name is mary harris, president of all my neighbors in action, and i'm on the taraval cpab. i rushed up here because i'm actually supposed to be at a board training, which was supposed to start at 6:00, and i've asked the board members to start at 7:30 so that i could get the board training and not miss it, so i'm sorry if i -- anybody here. i'm usually the first person to complain if something isn't right, so i also feel i should be the first person to appreciate and ask, you know, show gratitude, when things are going right. and we have a great captain. our love our taraval neighborhood team. i love you all, and the officers

at taraval. as a member, if we come and meet on wednesday and mention to the captain an issue, be it homeless, be it trash, be it blowing stop signs, whatever it is, we get the appropriate response immediately. and he makes sure that attention is given to whatever that issue is. i also want to thank all the people that came to international night out. mayor, chief scott, it's really important my neighborhood knows that they are available and responsive to us, because if there's going to be drama in the taraval station, homicide a lot of times, unfortunately, it is in the o.m.i., which is the ocean view, ingleside, merced heights. so i also want to thank sf safe.

their partnership is invaluable and also the d.a.'s office, maggie is wonderful. together with the community if we see something, we need to say something. it's a good partnership, so i wanted to come up and say appreciation and thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening, commissioners. good seeing you again. i think last time i saw you guys about three or four years. it's nice to see you guys. i'm bill barnacle. i'm the commissioner for veterans affair for city and county of san francisco. i did not go to s.i., unfortunately, i went to abraham lincoln high school. i'll share that with you. mustangs. here we go, mustangs. been over three years when captain lynn was here. i want to compliment captain yick for his many accomplishments in his short tenure at taraval station. as he mentioned on the board

there, he's done merchant walks with me. we haven't had a captain for some time that's been on a her che merchant walk for a long time. he does this probably once a month. coffee, monthly coffee with a cop. i commend him on that. local coffee shops, as well as -- you know we have a lot of places on irving street. district cleanups on saturdays, we've had two district cleanups. captain yick has been with us on saturdays cleaning up district 4. monthly open houses at the station, dialogue over dim sum, weekly news letter, and most importantly, we are getting cameras on irving street in the next couple months. captain yick has been very transparent, he has an open-door policy at his station. we have two beat officers, officer desmond dunn and officer john ying.

annual toy drive i've been doing 15 years and i'm the only association in san francisco that does an annual toy drive. last year i had flavor, united states marine corps with me delivering toys to kids with cancer. my association delivered over 4,500 toys. when this was over, we've been doing this the past five years, and captain yick gave certificates of appreciation to merchants thanking them for their support of the toy drive, and this was huge. got a lot of phone calls and the district 4 supervisor goes to the store, as well as the captain. >> thank you, sir. >> done? >> you're done. >> thank you. thanks. >> thank you, bill. goes by quick. >> good evening, chris carlton, i'm a student here at s.i., and i just have three pretty small questions for you, and first of all, what do you do day to day?

how often does a commission like this meet, and then how many people are in the commission? is it just people that are present, or do you guys have, like, a force? i don't know, a commission force? i'm not really informed about this. i just want to know. >> i guess i'll answer the question. there are seven police commissioners. you have the full complement tonight. four are appointed by the mayor, three appointed by the board of supervisors, but all seven of us are confirmed by the board of supervisors. we meet every wednesday night, generally it's at city hall, it's televised. we review all policies and procedures. we meet with the police officers association, we meet with members of the different peg groups. we meet with the department of justice, there were forms

recommended, different task force, deal with implicit bias, deal with recruiting and hiring, we selected the police chief. we basically interviewed the 61 candidates and sent three names to the mayor and the mayor was able to pick from those three names, so we basically go out in the community. ordinarily we report out, but we go to community events. just this week alone, several of the commissioners went to an academy class graduate, we had 28 new officers graduate down the block here. they went to the graduation. we do many, many community meetings, we talk to folks, see what their concerns are, discipline. discipline part we deal with on a daily basis. officers have rights. you heard from mr. henderson, where officers are accused of things. you know, ordinarily when officers arrest people, it's not a really good way to start a relationship, starts out bad when they put the handcuffs on you, so there's complaints. we deal with the complaints. if the officers need discipline,

we also look for the officers' welfare. our officers are expected to see the worst of the worst ten hours a day. they see dead bodies, they are in domestic violence situations, they argue with people, they struggle with people. [ please stand by ]

se i'm a no-nonsense mother. i did well by my children and i am no qualm of being the mother i am. i am fighting for my son and he is six feet down at a funeral home and now i am his voice. he was shot 30 times with a semi automatic gun. he died saving someone else's life. he said run. my son was left. so they shot him for opening his mouth. i don't know if that's a

snitch-culture thing but my son didn't deserve to die. he was only 16-years-old. it's sad. i've been coming to the police commission to see that if someone would know something, to solve my son's case. i've been out here 12 years and no mother had have to do that. my son should have been burying me, not me burying him. i have three daughters left. he was my only son. i come and i talk with my pictures. i bring these up. i can't talk unless no one was going to know how i was feeling unless i show pictures. i'm not just fighting for my son, there's other mothers and fathers out there losing their children all their lives. and the next thing i want to show is what -- >> thank you, ms. brown. >> had a mother and father.

this is what they left me with. my son's dead body on a gurney. no mother wants to go through this. >> thank you. >> i just want people to hear what i'm going through. >> thank you, ms. brown. ladies and gentlemen, ms. brown does come to our police commission meeting every wednesday night. her son was gunned down because of warning against other gang members in the western edition. unfortunately the d.a.'s office has not been able to bring a case although they know the suspects. ms. brown has their names. they're out and about in the community. one is dead already. and they can't make the case unless someone is willing to testify against the shooters who killed her son, who was a good young man who graduated from saint dominique school before heading off to high school.

if anybody has any motion regarding the murder, san francisco police department anonymous tip line is (415)575-4444. and there's a retired investigator assigned to this case. no murder case ever goes away. there's nothing more we'd like to do, to see the police department, than to take those murderers to justice. unfortunately that's a reality that the officers and people in the street have to deal with. many kids don't get a chance to see it. thank you, ms. brown. next speaker. [applause] >> my name is mike. i want to suggest to the commission that when crime reports, statistics are given that given the prop 47 changed a lot of the rules and definitions. there should be a comparison of

maybe two years before prop 47 went into effect and two years afterwards. in private accounting, if someone changes accounting methods they have to report what it would look like under the previous accounting methods. for instance, expense change methods yo you have to purport t it would look like and finally i see many spirited faces here, i know after the thrashing of saint i guess in a anxious takes friday night from my alma ma der it will be black arm bands and glum faces and a mood of sadness. i don't apologize but as someone said, i feel your pain. thank you. [laughter] >> next speaker. good evening. >> good evening. my name is chaz. i am a senior here at saint

enginasious high school. i think th the deescalation tacs and i appreciate them implementing those readily. you brought up earlier, bias training. has the commission implemented any implicit bias training policies? you don't mind, i would like to take notes? >> that's a great question. currently we are redoing the bias dgo so it's a department general order. sort of the rule book for the police officers to follow. what to do in certain situations and we are currently redoing the bias d.g.o., which i think was done in the '90s and it hasn't been revised since then. we're currently working on that. part of that is having a working group where we have people from the community where we can

implement in it the d.g.o. or the rule book so we can acknowledge the bias that happens and what to do in those situations. hopefully, we'll have it within the next few months. there's a long process in terms of getting it drafted and having people review it and ultimately the commission will vote on it to i am not it. that wilimplement it.>> i want . we offer an eight-house bias training for every police officer. in addition to that, the department of human resources in san francisco has an additional 40 hour course on bias which the officers either have gone through or will go through. i think the department is serious about it. >> thank you. >> if we have actually several of us have gone through the training and it's pretty amazing. >> thank you. >> thank you.

>> next speaker. >> good evening. my name is wendy wong. i'm the spokesperson of the san francisco coalition for good neighborhoods. i'm so happy to see you all here. seven police commissioners. i would like to take this opportunity to thank our captain. every single meeting, i went to the meeting and i got the report of the crime report and i can compare to the previous month. not that i enjoy it, i am very informed, i get the information of what is happening in our neighborhood. talking about human trafficking. it happened to my neighbor on my block. being alert, myself, because i attend a meeting every single month, i know how to watch these people. i report it to our police

station. that has been taken care of within 48 hours. i have to make a big part to our officer working on the case. and secondly, i would like to ask questions that i look around. we have seven police commissioners and i don't know whether we have chinese police commissioner, we have 35% population in san francisco. do we have the representation in this commission? i just want to know whether you will have this similar culture interaction in the chinese community. i look around and i don't see it. i just want to bring it to the mayor london breed because she got elected and she was highly supported by the chinese community. >> i can address that to some degree. good evening. my name is john.

i am asian-american although i am not chinese. i have -- the seat i was in previously was filled by bill hang, who is a u.s.f. law professor. traditionally the police commission has had an asian representative on it. that has been a -- for the last three at least that i know have been chinese. i will say this, there isn't one right now but i was familiar with one in the mayor's outreach and looking for candidates. i will say they did interview a number of chinese candidates and they spent a lot of time in a very long complicated process before selecting the new commissioners that are seated tonight. mr. taylor and mr. brooketer but

i know it's very much on the mayor's mind. it's on the board of supervisors' mind as well. i have, in my role as a commissioner, tried to be a bridge to the broader asian community. that includes the chinese community. i have been involved in a number of events in the chinese community including chinatown, at some of the events that have been involved i've attended. like the a.p.i. council. which is a organization that is made up of different asian-american organizations. i think you have a legitimate concern. i'm trying to fill the role as best i can. i do think everybody is aware of your concerns. >> i'm very new to this community meeting. i wonder how many years you are going to serve on this term?

>> so we each are appointed to a four-year term. as commissioners generally are reappointed a few times and then some new blood comes in or mr mr. mazzucco has been here for nine years. i think that's always a concern for all of the city leaders. >> thank you. >> i just went google online and realize the asian police officer, the largest minority group to i want to bring this up. thank you. >> thank you. [applause] >> hi. my name is melody ron and i'm a senior here at si. i have a question for the officers. so, the station is located across the street from lincoln

high school. i know your probably aware of the presence of gang recruitment that targets students that are our age, such as like other c.t. gangs. knowing this, i was wondering what the general attitudes officers have towards teens are and how strongly this is this perception is affected by profiling. such as what students wear or how they look and who they're with. do officers more commonly give the benefit of the doubt towards teens or do they seem we're just like kids up to know good? >> good evening. i'm not aware of any gang activity in any of our schools.

it doesn't mean it's not occurring. i am aware that there have been some issues in students that have been arrested for different crimes, but not specifically gang-related crimes. so it's something i'm interested in. we can speak off line. it's something that i'd like to relay to my school resource officers if there is an issue and it's something i can also speak to your principal about if you have specific concerns. >> i also think the chief has done some work with trying to engage the youth with officers and has done some training. i don't know if you want to speak to that, chief scott. >> so, engaging with the youth and the training that the commissioners are referring to, we did a module of training called policing the team.

it is really good training. i sat through it myself before i came to san francisco police department. basically it gets officers to better understand how the teenage brain thinks. there's a lot that goes into the training in terms of brain development. some of us that have teenage kids we understand it. but even me having have raised three i didn't understand it like i did after the training. [laughter] >> that's why they didn't do what i said. it does give us a much greater understanding of how to interact and engage with people that are more likely to be subject to what you just described. i mean, even if the gangs aren't in the schools, we know there's a gang presence in our city. a lot of times, even if they're not in our city, people come

over from other cities and engage with kids who live here in the city. it's a really big deal. the other thing with our community engagement division and our district stations is we do a lot of engagement with kids in terms of things that are non confrontation able. when you talk to people you get an understanding of where they're coming from. we officers coaching sports teams. we have officers taking kids on trips to began ghana and africd where we just spend time with young kids. i say folks. with young people. we can better engage with them and i myself, i meet quarterly with the youth commission. i have a really bright group of individuals and they bring a lot of perspective. the more engagement we do the better we are with addressing issues that impact our youth and how we police that segment of our population. thank you for that.

>> just to adjust your specific concern. i want to make sure you know and everyone in this room knows if your seeing something or there is gang activity in the city. there is. there is gang recruitment. so if something is happening at your school that makes you uncomfortable, everyone here should know that law enforcement will listen to you. no one is looking at you as if you don't have something important to say and no one is assuming things about you. your voice is important and the things you experience are important. and so if something happened with making you uncomfortable and you have a crime to report i want everyone in this room to feel very comfortable doing that. it's important. that's how the police is able to solve crimes through people like you. you are an important part of the process. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> hi. my name is know he will an noel. as commissioners with little to know experience being police

officers, what validates your position to change police policies? >> good question. >> very good question. >> all right. [laughter] >> who wants to start? >> officer as myself, you know, actually, as i said i was a prosecutor for 20 years both state and federal so i've worked with the san francisco police department closely. i was in the gang violence unit and the u.s. attorney's office. i worked on organized crime drug enforcement. i did all different cases. i worked with the federal agencies and police departments throughout the country. i'm also a son of a san francisco police officer. most of the people i went to sacred heart became san francisco police officers or went to jail. you are part of the community. those of us in the criminal-justice system, the public defenders, the prosecutors, we understand how the system works. that's why we're here. we also learn how the police

department works. the new commissioners do what i've done, they go to the station and do ride alongs and they talk to the officers and they talk to people and we come from different backgrounds. we're the liaison between the community and police. it gives us a different perspective than the officers have and we have to listen. one thing, there has to be a dialogue and in this day and age there's not a lot of dialogue. a lot of people are screaming at each other. we have dialogue of the community. we have dialogue with the officers. the best example i can give you is why we're good, we have, for what we do, the d.p.a. has a mediation program. and in this program, if you made a complaint against captain, you say the captain came up to me using a deep voice, staring at my hands, he was rude. he was treating me like i was a criminal. in this mediation, you will both sit in a room together and he will explain to you that well, the first level use of force is a voice.

they're looking at your hands because the hands are what kills them. that's what they're doing. they're training. it doesn't mean anything personal. he hears it made you feel real bad. it made you feel like you are being treated like a suspect or being pointed out. you sit in a room and have that conversation, a dialogue. so that's what we do. we do that on your behalf. commissioners -- >> and the police department are held to a higher standard. they have the ability to use force and in some circumstances they can use their gun and they can take a life. it's governed by-laws. there are statued that are govern. use of force, search and sees you're, warrants, those are you will a type of law we learn in criminal defense and they have statues and case law on that. as well as there's employment law, there's laws that govern discipline as well as community. i think a lot of people can

really understand the law. we talked about the general orders. really the general orders sets the policy that incorporates a lot of the law that is part of what governs the department. it's all intertwined. >> i want to be perfectly honest with you. i'm not an expert on a lot of areas. as they come up, i have to become an expert. you leash that as a commissioner and you do it in life. when i had children i was not an expert for raising children. they had to figure it out as they went along. we have to immerse ourselves as those issues come up and be as part on those issues as we can be become. we meet with community groups. we just don't meet with police officers or the command staff. we meet with community groups. we meet with experts who were outside of san francisco. we talk and visit other police

departments. we all have expertise that relates to what we're doing now as commissioners. as a panel of seven, we have a broad range of knowledge but we have to rely on one another. i will never tell you i'm an expert. >> thank you. >> thank you, very much. >> next speaker. >> i was going to speak as the ole one that's not a lawyer. to your question, i work with 800 young people during the summertime. we just did two projects and two programs. so i think one of the things that he talked about is we get to see what works when we work with our officers. because i get to actually be on the ground and spend time with folks who have trauma or are going through trauma, we focus with people who are incarcerate. i hear those individual problems

and say this is going on and it helps inform what we're doing around bias and what we're around recruitment and spending time. the chief speaks about engagement. while not being an expert, engaging with the officers and see what they go through on a day to day basis makes us that much more informed and then allows you to be the voice and community. all my colleagues here are he is esteemed and intelligent. i get to be the voice, we're going to break it down and this is what communities understands and looks like. that's the lens that i bring to the table. >> thank you. >> i didn't hear anything about hate crimes. does the department track hate

crimes? second, part two, is it part of the academy training or refresher training and if not, i attended the international chief of police last week and went to hate crime training and i would certainly with some clearance would like to honor them for hosting that training for departments or any departments in the bay area. >> yes, we do track hate crimes and hate crils ar crimes are a . we take them seriously. there's mandatory reporting. when it meets the criteria and rises to a level of hate crimes, we track hate incidents.

we sent several of our personnel to the international association of chiefs conference. i'm quite sure that someone went to the same seminar you went to. it is a big deal. we track it. we have an investigative unit that works and investigates the hate crimes. it is a big deal in terms of what we do. i mean, these crimes particularly when they're based on hate and bigotry, they're very disturbing. the commander in the back of the room and deputy chief redmen get notified on them and they make sure all the protocols are being followed and it's taken seriously. >> having been in the d.a.'s office, i think we're one of the first injurfirstfirst jurisdict.

because of san francisco, it was one of the first d.a. offices with hate crimes unit along with the san francisco department. it's the fourth and so -- >> so -- thank you, i appreciate that. >> is this part of the curriculum of the k academy. >> yes, it is. >> thank you, chief. >> next speaker. anything else. you have great questions. come forward. hi, my name is catherine. i'm a senior. i know the department of justice gave over 200 suggestions to the san francisco police department

some are some of those suggestions and what steps are being taken on this suggestion. >> there's a lot. >> everything from when we have an officer-involved shooting, who should be notified. when they should be notified. we have to address our highering to ensure that we have a police department that row reflects the community. to deescalation techniques. recommendations we have tasers that we explore that option. we don't have those. they've been approved. recommendations about supervisor certain situations, recommendations. i mean there's numerous recommendations. we have groups. a lot of the reforms have been put in place. the u.s. department of justice decided they were not going to facilitate this. the state department of justice is in the process of that during an m.o.u. with the police commission. we have the ultimate say in all policy and pressure. no one else.

and the police department we have a group of officers that have basically are deal with all the reforms. there was a lot of reform. with this chief that we're we want the best practices. we're ahead of the cushion a lot of these issues. there's conversations about our department general and dealing with people who are transgender and we have the one that is a national model that will --[

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>> the last thing we're going to say is the biggest thing they have is the use of force policy. it was 20, 25 years old that's one of the issues, the biggest issues we have in the department. we do change that policy, and it was taken, it was opposed by the police officers union and taken up all the way, i think, to the supreme court, just like last month and they ruled in our favor. we put it in, we implemented that right away and they tried to stop it, but it's in place, so that was the biggest one. >> great question, though. students are killing it. great question. >> you may have broached this already, but why did it take so long, or what was the process to authorize the use of tasers? it's been talked about for

years. it's revisited every few years, and finally the commission went through about a four-month analysis, where we had experts come, we read probably the equivalent of two manhattan phonebooks worth of material, we interviewed people who are experts on the deal, talked to other departments. the commission finally voted 4-3 last year, i think it was november, to approve the use of tasers. the board of supervisors decided not to fund the use of tasers. i have not talked to them specifically. i've heard they wanted to see more of the suggested recommendations from the department of justice implemented before they would fund the use of tasers, but that's the log jam. i mean, this is a democracy and work, and this is what happens. it's messy, you have different

groups who have input and have decision-making authority. we've approved it, we're waiting to implement it, we hope it gets funded as soon as possible, and that's where we are right now. >> and if i can say, it's much more complicated. it's not a simple weapon. it is a weapon, first of all, and it's not that simple, and there are a lot of people who have died, there are departments who are pulling out from using tasers. it's an issue in the law, as well. very complicated. so it was a split vote in this commission. >> and i think, you know, we just had in a neighboring jurisdiction a young man die from the use of taser, which i believe is under investigation right now, and a lot of the signs from that, that are public at this point is that an individual in a mental health crisis who is not hurting anybody else, was repeatedly tased, and died as a result, and that's a person. and that's not something that we

as a commission are willing to have on our conscience, so we want to make sure that our officers are trained in these devices so if they are used, they are used propererly, they are not used in a way where we take a life of a fellow san franciscan, who's through no fault of their own undergoing mental health crisis. so this commission is taking it very seriously, as commissioner hirsh mentioned. there's a lot of history, a lot of studies, a lot of medical and policy decisions that had to be considered, but at this point the commission has passed the use of tasers, a policy is in place, and that's one of the importance of the crisis intervention training, because now our officers are trained that when somebody's in distress, when somebody's undergoing a psychiatric episode, that force is not the

ideal first option. it should be the last option. and so, you know, we're trying to do this in a way that preserves all life and preserves the safety of our citizens, our officers, and everybody. >> and you can see where it's a very -- we as a commission really worked with each other. even if we have different opinions, we basically work through this. you know, and at the end of the day, some of us made the decision that, you know, tasers are lethal, candidly, in some instances. some people say it's less lethal than being shot with a firearm. i'm one of the few commissioners, probably the only commissioner has when i was a d.a. and twice in the u.s. attorney's office responded to officer-involved shootings. and i can tell you right now, not a single one of these men and women in this room go to work thinking they are going to be involved in a fatal shooting. and when you're there, when you see what they go through, they are a mess. that's not what they want to do.

their job is to save lives, and when you're there and you see them after this has happened, it's a terrible experience for everybody involved, so we're trying to limit the number of those incidents that the officers have to be involved in, that family members who have children and relatives who are in mental health crisis, we want to make sure we do it right, and the order that we pass is probably one of the most restrictive uses of a taser in anywhere in the country. it's not going to be used because someone is not complying with you in a traffic stop. you have other techniques. it's only used as a last resort when the only thing left for you to do is use your firearm. that's the way we have it at this point, correct? >> that's correct, but the manufacturer also says there's a warning not to use it on the mentally ill and that's really one of the facets or area that's been focused on, and so if the manufacturer says it's dangerous to use on the mentally ill, is that what we really want to do? especially when they are not committing the crime, they are

there because they haven't taken their medication and they go and if they get tased, they die. that's not what the family wanted at all. so it's complicated. >> very complicated. thanks for your question, though. any further questions? i see one more coming up. >> you talked about trying to reduce traffic violations and traffic collisions, and i know other cities in the bay area have allowed the use of self-driving cars, and, like, if they came to san francisco, how do you anticipate to handle, like, the problems that come with that? >> they are coming. they are here. >> excited about that. >> you guys really do have some great questions. so, autonomous vehicles definitely is going to be here one day. there are several companies that actually have been tested throughout the country, but we met with many of the

manufacturers of autonomous vehicles, along with representatives from mayor's office, we had representatives from m.t.a., and it was a very robust discussion. this was about six or seven months ago, and there's a lot of unanswered questions. a lot of questions that came up, and from a policing standpoint, you know, there were a lot of questions that, quite frankly, the manufacturers could not answer. like what happens if a hacker takes control of a vehicle and weaponizes it? and, you know, do you have a 12 year old sitting in some foreign country that's controlling a vehicle? so these are real questions. and they are questions that could not be answered at this point, so i think there's a lot of work to be done, definitely they are coming. we've seen, you know, some positive signs that it might be a good thing for our society, and we've seen some mishaps. in arizona they had a fatality and a traffic fatality involved in an autonomous vehicle, so there's a lot of things that, i

think, have to be worked out. i think the state has been involved in terms of legislation to allow the testing, but still, san francisco, i believe, will probably be one of the leaders in terms of getting this technology off the ground, and from policing, there was just a lot of questions that have not been answered yet to our satisfaction. so not that we can hold up the project, but we definitely can give input, put some thought in it, and get the manufacturers to kind of see some of the concerns that we have from a public safety standpoint. so, ongoing, ongoing discussion, but i think they will, you know, you will see them here fairly soon. thank you. >> thank you, chief. public comment's now closed. please call the next line item. >> item three, adjournment, action. >> ladies and gentlemen, before we adjourn, i want to thank st. ignatius high school for providing this room. i want to thank you for bringing the class here.

it's always good for us and refreshing. and i want to thank the commissioners, four of you, it's your first community meeting. i want to thank the staff at taraval station, commission staff, san francisco government tv, who had to equip all this. you can watch yourselves on tv, i think, starting tonight or later tomorrow. but again, you know, one thing i'm glad you came here, but there has to be a dialogue between the community, and we tell our officers, not the profile, that you don't paint everybody with the same brush. many different folks here, men and women in the san francisco police department, and some of you had looks on your face when you saw commander mannix and deputy chief redmond back there. yes, those are moms and dads here at this school. you've probably never seen them in uniform. they have students here at the school, folks are parents at the school, so it's about us making change, so thank you for coming, it's greatly appreciated. thank you. >> motion to adjourn? >> motion.

>> all in favor? [ gavel ] o and welcome to tuesd

october 16, 2018, commission meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission. i am ben bleiman and i am the commission president. if you are a member of the public and would like to speak, there are speaker forms to fill out located at the front tables, or you can hand them to our staff or just come to the microphone when i call for public comment. we ask everybody turns off the cell phones or puts them on mute, and that includes the commissioners and staff. i want to thank sfg tv and media for sharing this meeting with the public. we start with roll call. >> a commissioner tan. >> here. >> a commissioner lee. >> here. >> a commissioner fallson. >> here. >> commissioner bleiman. >> here. >> commissioner perez. >> here. >>