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original motion, which is to move forward item two as amended to the full board and make a motion to duplicate the file where i do amendments on the nsf and request the city attorney to eliminate city-wide minimum parking requirements and the city attorney will let us know if this requires a full referral to planning, but that is my motion. >> thank you very much. supervisor safai is now not here, so a motion to excuse him from this vote, so the item will be duplicated and only the four amendments move forward at this point. do we need to take another roll call on the amendments itself?
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>> what i have on record is the amendments passed and we were going to see if you were going to duplicate it. >> we are going to duplicate and send item 2 to the board with full recommendation if there is no objection. are there any other items for us. >> the duplicate will be amended as well? >> the duplicated file amends back the ncs amendments that i made today. that is, the second and fourth amendments to page 19, line 19 removes ncf from the curb cut restrictions and -- bringing back all the changes to the ncf
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table. >> thank you. >> so one version has been duplicated and will remain here in land use committee. >> what is the motion on the duplicated item as amended? >> i will make a motion to move item two to full board with recommendation. capitol the call of the chair without objection. >> there is nothing further. >> thank you, we are adjourned.
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>> they tend to come up here and drive right up to the vehicle and in and out of their car and into the victim's vehicle, i would say from 10-15 seconds is all it takes to break into a car and they're gone. yeah, we get a lot of break-ins in the area. we try to -- >> i just want to say goodbye. thank you. >> sometimes that's all it takes. >> i never leave anything in my car. >> we let them know there's been a lot of vehicle break-ins in this area specifically, they target this area, rental cars or vehicles with visible items. >> this is just warning about vehicle break-ins. take a look at it. >> if we can get them to take it
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with them, take it out of the cars, it helps.
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>> i came to san francisco in 1969. i fell in love with this city and and this is where i raised my family at. my name is bobbie cochran. i've been a holly court resident for 32 years. i wouldn't give up this neighborhood for nothing. i moved into this apartment one year ago. my favorite thing is my kitchen. i love these clean walls. before the remodeling came along, the condition of these apartments had gotten pretty bad, you know, with all the mildew, the repairs.
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i mean you haven't seen the apartment for the program come along. you wouldn't have believed it. so i appreciate everything they did. i was here at one point. i was. because i didn't know what the outcome of holly court was going to be. you know, it really got -- was it going to get to the point where we have to be displaced because they would have to demolish this place? if they had, we wouldn't have been brought back. we wouldn't have been able to live in burn. by the program coming along, i welcome it. they had to hire a company and they came in and cleaned up all the walls. they didn't paint the whole apartment, they just cleaned up the mildew part, cleaned up and straighted it and primed it. that is impressive. i was a house painter. i used to go and paint other people's apartments and then
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come back home to mine and i would say why couldn't i live in a place like that. and now i do. >> we love our parks, but we love... >> and the community who is really the core of it all, came together and said what we need is a place for our teenager to play, not just play grounds for the kids and soccer fields but we need a skate park that will keep the kids home in the neighborhood so they can play where they live. >> the children in the neighborhood and it will be a major boone. and we have generations, the youth generations that will be
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able to use this park in different places. >> the best park in san francisco right here. >> creating place where people can be active and lead, active, healthy life styles that are going to just stay with them for life. ♪
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>> hi. my name is carmen chiu, san francisco's aelectricitied assessor. today, i want to share with you a property tax savings programs for families called proposition 58. prop 58 was passed in 1986 and it was helped parents pass on their lower property tax base to their children. so how does this work?
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under california's prop 13 law, the value we use to calculate your property tax is limited to 2% growth peryear. but when ownership changes, prop 13 requires that we reassess properties to market value. if parents want to pass on their home or other property to their children, it would be considered a change in ownership. assuming the market value of your property has gone up, your children, the new owners, would pay taxes starting at that new higher level. that's where prop 58 comes in. prop 58 recognizes the transfer between parents and children so that instead of taxing your children at that new higher level, they get to keep your lower prop 13 value. remember, prop 58 only applies to transfers between parents and children. here's how the law twines an eligible child. a biological child, a step
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child, child adopted before the age of 18, and a son-in-law or daughter-in-law. to benefit from this tax saving program, remember, you just have to apply. download the prop 58 form from our website and submit it to our office. now you may ask, is there a cap how much you can pass on. well, first, your principal residence can be excluded. other than that, the total tap of properties that can use this exclusion cannot exceed $1 million. this means for example if you have two other properties, each valued at $500,000, you can exclude both because they both fit under the $1 million cap. now what happens hwhen the totl value you want to pass on exceeds $1 million. let's say you have four properties. three with current taxable value of $300,000 and one at $200,000, totaling $1.1 million in value. assuming that you decide to pass on properties one, two,
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and three, we would apply the exclusions on a first come, first served basis. you would deduct properties one, two, and three, and you would still have $100,000 left to pass on. what happens when you pass on the last property? this property, house four, has been existing value of 2 -- has an existing value of $200,000, and its existing property value is actually higher, $700,000. as i said, the value left in your cap is $100,000. when we first figure out your portion, we figure out the portion that can be excluded. we do that by dividing the exclusion value over the assessed value. in this case, it's 50%. this means 50% of the property will remain at its existing value. meanwhile, the rest will be reassessed at market value. so the new taxable value for this property will be 50% of
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the existing value, which is 200,000, equaling 100,000, plus the portion reassessed to market value, which is 50% times $700,000, in other words, 350,000, with a total coming out to $450,000. a similar program is also available for prepping transfers fl interest r from grandparents to grandchildren. if you're interested in learning more visit our website or
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>> one more statement. we are the one. that is our first single that we made. that is our opinion. >> i can't argue with you. >> you are responsible please do not know his exact. [♪] [♪]
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[♪] >> i had a break when i was on a major label for my musical career. i took a seven year break. and then i came back. i worked in the library for a long time. when i started working the san francisco history centre, i noticed they had the hippie collection. i thought, if they have a hippie collection, they really need to have a punk collection as well. so i talked to the city archivist who is my boss. she was very interested. one of the things that i wanted to get to the library was the avengers collection. this is definitely a valuable poster. because it is petty bone. it has that weird look because it was framed.
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it had something acid on it and something not acid framing it. we had to bring all of this stuff that had been piling up in my life here and make sure that the important parts of it got archived. it wasn't a big stretch for them to start collecting in the area of punk. we have a lot of great photos and flyers from that area and that. that i could donate myself. from they're, i decided, you know, why not pursue other people and other bands and get them to donate as well? the historic moments in san francisco, punk history, is the sex pistols concert which was at winterland. [♪] it brought all of the punks on the web -- west coast to san francisco to see this show. the sex pistols played the east coast and then they play texas and a few places in the south and then they came directly to san francisco. they skipped l.a. and they skipped most of the media centres. san francisco was really the biggest show for them pick it was their biggest show ever.
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their tour manager was interested in managing the adventures, my band. we were asked to open to support the pistols way to that show. and the nuns were also asked to open the show. it was certainly the biggest crowd that we had ever played to. it was kind of terrifying but it did bring people all the way from vancouver, tee seattle, portland, san diego, all up and down the coast, and l.a., obviously. to san francisco to see this show. there are a lot of people who say that after they saw this show they thought they would start their own band. it was a great jumping off point for a lot of west coast punk. it was also, the pistols' last show. in a way, it was the end of one era of punk and the beginning of a new one. the city of san francisco didn't necessarily support punk rock. [♪] >> last, but certainly not least
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is a jell-o be opera. they are the punk rock candidate of the lead singer called the dead kennedys. >> if we are blaming anybody in san francisco, we will just blame the dead kennedys. >> there you go. >> we had situations where concerts were cancelled due to flyers, obscene flyers that the city was thought -- that he thought was obscene that had been put up. the city of san francisco has come around to embrace it's musicians. when they have the centennial for city hall, they brought in all kinds of local musicians and i got to perform at that. that was, at -- in a way, and appreciation from the city of san francisco for the musical legends. i feel like a lot of people in san francisco don't realize what resources there are at the library. we had a film series, the s.f. punk film series that i put together. it was nearly sold out every
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single night. people were so appreciative that someone was bringing this for them. it is free. everything in the library is free. >> it it is also a film producer who has a film coming out. maybe in 2018 about crime. what is the title of it? >> it is called san francisco first and only rock 'n' roll movie. crime, 1978. [laughter] >> when i first went to the art institute before the adventures were formed in 77, i was going to be a painter. i did not know i would turn into a punk singer. i got back into painting and i mostly do portraiture and figurative painting. one of the things about this job here is i discovered some great resources for images for my painting. i was looking through these mug shot books that we have here that are from the 1920s. i did a whole series of a mug
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shot paintings from those books. they are in the san francisco history centre's s.f. police department records. there are so many different things that the library provides for san franciscans that i feel like a lot of people are like, oh, i don't have a library card. i've never been there. they need to come down and check it out and find out what we have. the people who are hiding stuff in their sellers and wondering what to do with these old photos or old junk, whether it is hippie stuff or punk stuff, or stuffestuff from their grandpar, if they bring it here to us, we can preserve it and archive it and make it available to the public in the future. >> all right. good morning, everyone. like to call our october 11
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meeting for the tjpa. [roll call] >>clerk: mr. chairman, you do have a quorum. >> thank you. next item, please. >>clerk: item three is communications. directors, i'm not aware of any. >> next item. >> next item is new and unfinished business. >> seeing none, we'll move on. >> item 5 is public comments. >> we share our sadness at the closure of the if the, and we look forward lo lo look -- of the if the -- sales
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force transit center. you will hear a little bit more about the [inaudible] salesforce transit cent . >> -- as we must determine the cause and finalize the -- the permanent fix and peer review it before we do so. once we do that, we can provide you with a construction schedule. but please be assured we are working thorough but ensuring a construction schedule and clear path forward. mayor breed and mayor schaaf has
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requested the -- [inaudible] >> -- that are needed to confirm the structural integrity of the transit center. we share their goal of reassuring the public that the transit center is safe and secure. i would like to thank mayor greed and mayor schaaf for their leadership. i would also like to thank m.t.c.'s leader steve heninger. we have provided m.t.c. for the pertinent information that will be neededtor the peer review panel and will continue to provide it to them as long as they need it. moving to phase two, in regards to the supplemental internal
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documents for the downtown extension, we received initial comments for the final supplemental environmental impact report statement from the federal transportation administration on october 2, and we continue to work with them to address additional comments as they are transmitted to us. we have planned on october 15 to finishing addressing all the comments. we wi if the f.t.a. returns the document signed on or before october 24, we will be able to bring it to the tjpa on the november 3 board meeting. for the r.a.p. study -- [inaudible] >> -- the next step is for the city and county of san francisco to approve the recommendation. once that's done we will bring it to the tjpa board for
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consideration and possible inclusion to the d.t.x. project. this concludes my report. >> vice chair gee: thank you. any comments for the executive director? we can have a discussion now or construction presentation issues? >> construction presentation. >> vice chair gee: okay. any other questions? i guess one question. you said for the board to be able to consider the final environmental for phase two at the november meeting, you would need response from f.t.a. by the 24 of this month. why? what's driving that date? >> we need them to sign the document by the 24th. we're going to give them the document with all the responses addressed and ready for signature on the 17. >> vice chair gee: that date's
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a couple of weeks ahead. >> yeah. we need to put it forward to make sure the document's available. and they're aware of that. >> vice chair gee: any other questions? okay. item six. >> item six is advisory committee update, and we have bruce aggett. >> good morning. directors, executive director zabaneh. my comments this morning are focused in the following areas: to address the staff report. we are pleased to hear the c.t.a. approved the residence dugs to adopt the pennsylvania alignment extension as the optimal alignment recommended by the san francisco planning department. we look forward to understanding the next steps leading to final
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approval by the city. we were also pleased to hear the project team received the additional feedback from the f.t.a., and although there are a few finishing touches needed, it's anticipated as executive director zabaneh just mentioned, that it could come to the board in november for aful pro. we look forward to an update and potential presentation at our next c.a.c. meeting. regarding the transit center update, the main topic of our c.a.c. meeting last tuesday was update on the closure of the center. as you would expect, the c.a.c. shares the same disappointment the project team, the board, agency, and city stakeholders, transit riders, and community feel. with that said, the c.a.c. unanimously applauded and commended the project team and this board for taking the appropriate actions of closing
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this center immediately out of an abundance of caution in access to making and keeping building safety the number one priority. we also appreciate the efforts the project team to keep us and the public updated with the latest information. during our meeting, the project team went through slides in detail and provided us with ample time to ask varietied and ample list of questions. we appreciate the level of detail provided outlining what is known to this point with no speculation and the next steps to determine the cause, design of the associated fix, associate timeline, which will lead to the eventual reopening of the rooftop park and the transit center. it was articulated clearly throughout the presentation, the
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reopening will occur only when it has been demonstrated appropriate repairs have been made and the center was safe. we were also pleased to here about the various peer reviews of the permanent fix over fremont street and the facility. in addition we're pleased to hear that the overall design of the peer review was a sign to the m.t.c. one last item, and we are looking ahead to the reopening of the center. our c.a.c. did recommend that consideration be given at the appropriate time to plan activities to celebrate the reopening of the center so we may recapture the energy and enthusiasmtor the activation for the activities of the park and the center, welcoming back the staff, workers, and visitors. thank you for the opportunity for this update. >> thank you, mr. aggett. any questions for bruce? all right. >>clerk: next item is item
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seven, public comment. this is an item for members of the public to address you on items not on today's calendar, and we do have roland lebrun who would like to speak to you regarding d.t.x., and another item. >> good morning, directors. so the first thing i want to bring to your attention is that if you go to the tjpa website, and you look at the environmental section, nothing has been posted there since the draft seir in december 2015. now, the reason i bring that to your attention is as far as i recall, there's a 30-day comment period prior to your approval of the seir, and i'd be really interested in seeing what the replies were to the comments i made, the 15th of february 2016. there are two items that really need your attention, is the turn
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backtrack from 16th street. how could that possibly work? how could it possibly have -- be able to operate, anything across 16th street with a third track? another thing that's in there -- that actually was very, very rae clearly identified in a r.a.b. study, is the traction box extension, once it's built, it's going to require the condemnation of in excess of $2 billion of san francisco prime real estate, including the enti entire rankin center. as far as i know, none of that has been addressed. the f.t.a. is not aware of this, and the sooner we get down to the bottom of that, the better.
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>> okay. madam clerk, any others? >>clerk: mr. lebrun includes other items? okay. that concludes members of the public that wish to address you. >> vice chair gee: next item, please. >> next item is a report on the update of the salesforce transit center. >> good morning, board members. dennis tershon, senior construction manager. i will give an update to the temporary supports. this will be a continuation of last week's presentation, but i will also -- i'm also including original slides from last week for knowing that there are different members here today than were last week, so i've included all that as a short recap. i will be covering fremont street status first, then, i
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will layer in first street. >> vice chair gee: could you hold on for a second? our screens -- oh, there we go. us rookies don't know which button to push on the screen. okay. thank you. thank you. all right. thank you. my apologies to the interruption. we were looking at the san francisco seal. >> i have the sales force and first street and updates, and following up with what mark had mentioned, the next steps and expand a little bit on those items, as well, too, as we wrap up the presentation for today. starting with fremont street, this is a graphic that was good to use as a reference point to show where we're at. if you look at the bus deck level, you see that there is a yellow rectangle with the two lines.
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that's exactly where the girders are. as i expand that out, i will mention -- and you've probably seen in other reports -- you see three -- the middle one is actually a hangar beam, and that is what is holding up the bus deck. and then, similar moving onto the bus deck there, this is a blow up of the bus deck. as you move up to the girder, you see where the hanger beam is in the middle. this hanger beam is directly in the middle of those girders that are approximately 80 feet long, spanning over fremont street, and the northern one is the one that has the crack in it. with the stiffener, you can see above the ironworker's hard hat.
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so what has happened at fremont street since? one of the first items out in the field and was resolved, we call it the phase one initial stablization. these were gantry jacks, in cooperate with bigy and shty were installed to take loads off of the girders. they are happen to sit on a wood -- a wood mat, and also, the steel girders underneath is are part of the actual temporary support design, so we're able to get some of that temporary support in, and with we put
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these gantry jacks in immediately. since then, all of these have been removed from fremont street. where these blue ones are are where the temporary support system has been installed. to talk the temporary support design, this is a four-level temporary support system. these are two major girders withholding not only the roof deck but also the bus deck below them, so there is a significant load that we're good night to go transferred. that had to be transferred not just to the ground level or the bus deck, it can to be transferred all the way down to the deck slab. so that's why the design and analysis getting to all the details has -- that activity on my schedule slide has moved out a little more because it has taken time to get those four levels matured and peer reviewed to get in place.
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and today, we have the design. you know, the design has been finalized. thornton tomasetti has had the design. all four levels have a jacking system accompanied with it, so that's one of the other challenges that we'll -- i'll get into that'll be happening very shortly here, but i wanted to point out that this is not just a single-level shoring system, it's a different nature to that. and i've included a 3d which shows that the original gantry jacks, they were pulled at the ground level, and this shows how the levels of beams that are taking this support all the way from basically the ground -- from the rooftop all the way down to the mass slab. some of the beams they're using, they were all readily raebavail
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at herric's yard. some of thesum ises, they're w-14 systems, which are fairly low, but they're 740's, which are 740 pounds perfoot, so they're extremely stout beams, which was another factor that was built into the design of this system. this is what the -- at fremont street what it looks like today, those gantry yellow jacks in blue have been removed, and now we have it sitting with the bus deck, engaged. basically, the weight of the bus deck has still been taken off of the two girders, waiting for the rest of the two levels to be installed, and that's been going -- progressing. material now for all the lower is in place or has been delivered. those two lowers in the train box, and the lower concourse, those two levels there, all the
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materials here and should be installed today. and then, they will be moving to the vital bus deck level shortly there after. this is a view if you're looking along fremont street towards mission. the footprint is about 10 foot wide, and it's -- you can see, it actually looks pretty -- that's all -- as the traveling public will see, that's all that'll be out there on fremont street. and as -- this is the precursor to the bus deck that'll start to be installed starting tomorrow. once the bus deck is in, the ground levels are in, the two lower levels of are in, then, the sequence of taking the load off will begin. you want to impose certain a lot
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of load, there's a sequence that will be done. to do the repair, we have to take oath of both girders all weight and transfer all load. this is a drawing that just depicts what fremont street will look like shortly when opens. there is three existing lanes, and we still are able to match that. we're able to get three lanes through. our traffic control designer, in coordination with the m.t.a. traffic team, have come up with this, and it's k-rail, which is concrete barrier that totally protects this, in addition to a very large crash cushion array, a sand barrel crash cushion array is in front of it, as well to ensure safety of that temporary support system. the schedule now, where we're at with fremont street, we did have
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the initial destablization on october 1. since then, we're continuing to have the final design. in conjunction, we have a peer review looking at this temporary support system. that process has matured to all design has been delivered to him, and his review is to be finalized, anticipated by tomorrow, with the expectation of no more comments at that point, and then, fabrication and delivery has been ongoing with some of the last pieces of delivery to happen within the next day or so for all pieces for all four levels, and then, installation. we are -- we have identified wednesday as the date to open by, so that's where we're carrying at this point, and we are tracking. also, so this thing, i want to
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note that phase three, as we call it, are the next steps. i do have a slide that goes into it more extensively, but i show it starting on the 8th, which is when the testing and sampling procedures were starting to be drafted, and all the elements that were starting to be put in place, so when we had the load transferred to -- from the girders to the temporary support, that we have a procedure in place, it's been reviewed, and then, now, as we're bringing the peer review, the m.t.c. peer review update, we'll have something for them to review in very short order. hope to have that finalized by the end of today for the m.t.c. peer review, so there's many steps happening. we're not waiting for the transfer load to prepare for the next steps. now i want to step over to first street. first street has those two
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same -- a -- we determined it was prudent, and it was efficient, and the right thing to do to look at first street as the same -- as a redundant enhancement to first street. they're slightly different shoring and temporary supports that go into it, but the plan at this point is to have the same type of activity. that's what we're going to do for the permanent fix at fremont, also at first street to ensure there's continuity there. so this has a similar where it has a hanger beam in the middle. early preparation happened almost immediately after last thursday's decision, clearing the way, basically, getting rid
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of ceiling panels, scraping fireproofing, analyzing to ensure rights down the middle -- right down the middle where you drive on first street is the beam of the train box. that is why we're in the middle, that there is an actual support beam right there in the middle, that we have to lineup our temporary support system on. that was all confirmed where it was at. installing -- i mean, fabrication and design started -- the design was pretty straightforward because it was -- we've utilized the similar jacks, these gantry jacks from fremont street were able to be utilized over at first street. and then, those were able to be engaged, they were engaged monday night -- sunday night, and traffic was -- has been diverted all week, so we did actually that traffic -- split traffic over there and reopen
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it. we've only been closing 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. there's absolutely no affects to the traffic. c.m.c. is doing our traffic control for detour. you can see that the same k-rail, concrete barrier system, crash cushion array will be implemented and is in position on first street. there is the delineator striping. this one, we were able to turn the jacks in a 90° angle, so our wooden mat is only 5 foot wide as opposed to 10 foot wide on fremont street, so this shows the configuration. the thornton tomasetti confirmed to take the load off that we do
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want to takeoff of these girders, we do have to put some support in the train box levels, so those levels will get some supports, as well. we don't have to take all the load off because we have a girder that is carrying its own load, so it's a slightly different. we're taking the bus deck load off of it so as we go through the redundant -- at the point in time where we're able to install that redundant fix -- and to do that, it was felt that support beam directly under fremont street needed some additional shoring, and hence why we've gone all the way down to the mat slab over there. those two will be installed next week, and then, which is well ahead of time of when the actual redundan system will be installed. similar to fremont street, we
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worked hand in hand, webcor, they had their traffic control person working with m.t.a. on traffic handling. it's a similar type, just in the opposite direction. we're able to get three lanes through, and it's been working well over at first street. so i've referenced the next steps. compared to where we were last tuesday, the design and shoring's completely matured, and just a matter of implementation in the field. the sampling and testing and the cause and the potential fixes actually do have a synergy together. in some ways, it's a little bit of a chicken and the egg, what comes first? you need to know your fix before you can determine what your sample is, so thornton tomasetti has been working with skepticcol
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fixes, and that has led us to a procedure that should be finalized possibly as soon as today to have what we can take as our sampling. that's going to be -- that's the important next step 'cause once we get the offload of that, we can get in there. once all the parties have confirmed, including the peer review, that that's the right -- we're not waiting for the peer review, but they will be layered in immediately, and we're preparing for them to add in additional comments, probably additional maybe testing, so enough sample will be taken to accommodate theirs as they get up to speed here shortly. and then, from that point, a fix where right now, the team is agreeing on a metallurgical lab in new york that is completely independent of any of the labs that have been used previously for not only the constructive sampling and also the actual
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metallurgical testing itself will be outside entities that will be doing that, and that will be part of the package, along with plan sheets, design comments, all the shoring, a very large packet that will be readied and put in place for the peer review when they're ready to receive that. and then, they'll review this very large packet. then, once that's all in place, then, we'll implement the permanent fix, and you get the milestone of opening the facility in conjunction with any kind of peer review comments that may relate to the entire facility. so the -- i'm calling it the 2018 m.t.c. peer review because we have had a peer review on the project from, you know, for -- for quite a long time. at the making of this
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presentation, i -- i thought there was going to be seven members, but i believe m.t.c. is going to finalize with six members, and they're in the process of finalizing this today. and then, a kickoff meeting with them, which would include many presentations to them, and a very large, thankfully, helike tronnic file for them starting tomorrow. also in that group, it'll be the six panel review members. beside us, we will have the m.t.a. members in the room, and hearing the same thing that the panel hears, as well. our structural and seismic review committee, the original one, has been involved in this process. certain one of the members, when -- based on availability, have been included and will continue, as well.
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so with that, that concludes my update. if you want to add anymore, we're ready for any questions. >> vice chair gee: very good. director reiskin, want to start us off? >> director reiskin: yeah. thank you for the update. i apologize. i was not at last week's meeting, so if some of these things, you've already covered, please accept my apologies. first of all, up until monday, we were working on a date of opening tomorrow in terms of fremont street, so now, it sounds like we're off by about another five days or so. it's -- and i think you made reference to the fact that maybe you didn't anticipate having to go below ground, but if you could just help us understand why that change and what level of confidence we and the public should have now and to the october 17 date. >> as we were holding and had identified the 12th as the
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opening, the -- the design of this entire shoring system hadn't been matured yet, and that scope was evolving, which did include additional elements being added as it went through, whether it was the peer review or the coordination between our -- the engineer and also the fabricators and installers. so it was an evolving process. since the design ended up being more significant than originally was projected, i think there was from a -- there's a -- a much more conservative approach that now is our final product, and that's why it has taken longer to get to that point. if you compare to my schedule from last week to this week, it's really mostly the design and peer review, and then, the installation and fabrication following suit. with the larger amount of steel, there was obviously more fabrication, and