>> i make a motion that we approve this project. >> second. >> thank you commissioners. (roll call) sod moved that motion passes 4-0. that places you on 18. 136 palm avenue. discretionary review. >> david win winslow. this is a public request for 2017-0628-0596 to raise an existing roof four feet and add dormers to create a fourth floor on a home built in 1920.

it is 43 food white by -- food white. with a -- foot wide. it was a historic resource. it has been found to comply with the secretary of interior standards does not pose material impact to the identified district. i think it is a potential district. the d.r. requester is adjacent property to the south. the reasons for the d.r. request are two. first impacts to light and air. impact to privacy. public comment to date. department has received no letters of support or opposition. in light of the concerns department rereviewed the project with the residential guidelines. vertical expansion by racing the roof and adding dormers is sensitive with minimal increase

in height. it is approximately 20 feet away from d.r. requester's windows due to the 17-foot side yard and three foot deep light well to the south. location of the subject building to the north allows indirect light. in your package you can see renditions of that. the difference between the current and existing. number two. additional pairs of windows and dormers are appropriately sized and located to not present any you privacy. it meets the standards and guidelines and you approve the project. it does not present any extraordinary conditions to justify further conditions to the code compliant project. this concludes my presentation. >> d.r. requester.

welcome. you have five minutes if you would like. >> is there a way to it is and talk? >> yes. you can pull that down. >> grab that one. >> are you david winslow? >> the one and only. >> excuse me. i have never done this before. thank you. i am going to try to talk fast.

david winslow, i want to apologize fo for missing our lat meeting at the planning department. i was dealing with a friend hospitalized and i missed the last minute change of time. i don't want you to think i am unreliable and i don't care. i do care. i am told we will be turned down today. i guess you just did it. david winslow in a rent conversation said to the planning department does not want to spend more money on this case. in a conversation with natalie yesterday sadie laying the project will cost more money. if true this should not be the reason reason for denying due process. if they compromise a little this could have been resolved sooner.

out of my ear shot, i have been characterized as disinterested and obstructive to having discussions. any statements to that effect are untrue. they have demonstrated in all actions that they had no interest in giving up anything. so i am pointing that out. one after the first mailing the architect had an introductory meeting which alerted that i could not make. i had a brief conversation with him asking him to generally describe what the proposed were planning because i could not read plans. i was dependent upon him to describe everythingrel haven't. from the beginning i had concerns and objections.

i asked if he could schedule another and let me know. i never heard from him. two, the application was moving through the planning department for special review. i was not asked for concerns to perhaps incorporate to design. three, at neighborhood barbecue. nothing was ever hinted at by them on the plans. upon leaving, i mentioned we still had to meet to discuss the plans. kelly replied anytime. on the next day i said to her that i didn't necessarily have to meet to look at the plans. these were the preliminary ones. i wanted her to know of my concerns. i expected a response. there was none. she made no mention of what was to come next. which is number five. the notice to build was sent.

i immediately called ben. he listened, but nothing came of my stating my concerns again. he expressed confidence they would prevail because the plans hadlassed the planning department. he also asked to take photos from my kitchen but never made time to do so. six, i talked to alexander our liaison at the planning defendant and complained that ben did not seem to be interested in communicating with me. she said then that the wall would be going up four feet then pitched to the peak. that she would ask been to contact me to clarify. he never did. ben only call me when i e-mailed him to say we would filed for discretionary review. only in the last month after we

filed for discretionary review did i learn from ben that the pops agreed to go up six feet. they have made no concessions or interest in doing so. i am speaking for the could line owners. we would like -- co-owners. we would like to suggest a slight delay of a few weeks to bring the rise from six feet from four feet to start it from there. >> can i continue. >> you have 25 seconds. >> and that -- sorry. that they take full height on the other side of their building where they are closer to the neighbor and who may not care and where it would not be obvious from the street. also to reduce the number and

size of windows and place glass on the small bathroom and stair windows as permanent fixture. >> thank you. two minute rebuttal. that is after they speak. we will call you back for two minutes. then they have two minutes. any public comment in support of the dr? okay. if there is anybody else to speak on your behalf. seeing none, project sponsor, you have two minutes. >> five. >> i am one you have the project sponsors with my husband. this is ben farrell the architect. we will take a moment right now. for us this is not a new project. we purchased the property. >> i can't hear. >> for us this is not a new project. we purchased the profit nine years ago. this is a long road.

we did a number of structural changes preceding this. that started in 2013 from the planning perspective. we started construction in 2014. we have been open with neighbors. >> i can't hear what you are saying. i won't be age to rebut. >> it is the mic. speak into the mic. >> i am speaking it as much as i can. i don't want to shout this. say long a long journey. we are open the entire time. that was our intention from the time we bought the property. in addition, we started this phase of the project well over a year ago and have been open with our neighbors and the neighborhood the entire time. we highlighted that correspondence including the mandatory preapplication meetings and mailings in addition to other outreach that

we did. there is the opportunity for dialogue all along. the only response we received from the neighbor was they didn't want us to do the project and they were opposed. nothing asked for we offered to bring the meeting to her. we had a conference call and have been open this entire time. only after the dr was filed did we have a conversation where they responded. i am a mom of two kids six and nine. 1600 square feet with one bathroom. we are trying to make it work. it let us afford to stays in the home. if we cannot expand the home we will be forced to leave the city. for us to buy this property we had the same tent from being a single die to the third child in december. we have made it work. it is hard to feel this is our last chance and this one person

who doesn't want to talk to us and maintain a neighborly relationship is preventing us from do what we set out to do nine years ago. >> i am the architect. i like this project. right time, right place, right people. it allows us to expand. we are takingatic space and pushing up the roof four feet to give us two story over basement right now with i think, you know, moderate change to the exterior of the building. there is great separation between this house and the adjacent house to the south. i did a very cursory shadow study so we could see the summer sun angles and where they end up

falling. it is hard to agree there is going to be any impact to light or fresh air across 21 feet from the four feet extension. the vertical wall closist does extend out six feet. that was not clear for a lot of the discussion. obviously the information came from me. you know, the great cross section of san francisco that we have seen this afternoon this is relatively small potatoes. to these two people it is the biggest thing ever. >> is that all? we have to keep going. any public comment in support of the project? seeing none. he has a two minuter rebuttal if you would like.

>> i don't know if it is relevant, but i don't feel you it. shy wants something and -- she wants something and wants all of what she wants. the characterization of my not wants to communicate. i had communicate. i said to ben, would they go for four-foot? i don't think he said yes or no. that is kind of a concession, isn't it? it is a suggestion of what how we can compromise. i initially said, women, you know, truth be told you i don't want you to do it at all but that doesn't mean that is all in my head. there were some things that we could have agreed upon as a compromise, but they kind of, and i was available.

i mean i think i pointed out in those as i did, one, three, seven. i didn't hear back. it is like, yeah, we can talk. okay, talk. okay. no hearing back. no coming back and saying, what do you suggest? what about this? i mean they were just -- to attitude i came to understand was that we have got it. we don't even have to talk to you. we can pretend to talk to you. we development have to talk to you. -- we don't have to talk to you. i was not unavailable for conversations, and i in fact as i pointed out did reach out to them. i will let that go. >> thank you very much.

a two minute rebuttal. >> for the d.r. request there is closed caption if you can't hear on the screens right over there. >> thank you. >> i just wanted to say that we were completely caught off guard by the dr filing. you can see the correspondence. they had everything for a large amount of time. we hosted outreach meetings didn't get anything prior to that. we exceed all of the residential design guidelines. we had a rigorous review of historic. there is nothing extraordinary about it. we need the head height four the space to be inhabitable by a 6 footman. if we can't walk through it, we can't afford to do it. it is not worth it. >> thank you. we will close this portion of

the hearing. commissioner richards. >> this is probably the only zr where i have not -- dr much about the merits of the case instead of who said what. i don't see any reason to take dr. i believe the staff decision is good. i move to approve the project. >> second. >> not take dr and approve as proposed. (roll call). so moved commissioners that motion passes unanimously 5-0. >> meeting is adjourned. thank you all.

today we are going to talk about fire safety. we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. it's a wonderful display. a little house in the urban center exhibition center that shows what it's like in a home in san francisco after an earthquake. one of the major issues that we are going to

face after earthquakes are fire hazard. we are happy to have the fire marshall join us today. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> we talk about the san francisco earthquake that was a fire that mostly devastated the city. how do we avoid that kind of problem. how can we reduce fire hazard? >> the construction was a lot different. we don't expect what we had then. we want to make sure with the gas heaters that the gas is shut off. >> if you shut it off you are going to have no hot water or heat. be careful not to shut it off unless you smell gas. >> absolutely because once you do shut it off you should have

the utility company come in and turn it back on. here is a mock up of a gas hear the on a house. where would we find the gas meter? >> it should be in your garage. everyone should be familiar with where the gas meter is. >> one of the tools is a wrench, a crescent wrench. >> yes. the crescent wrench is good and this is a perfect example of how to have it so you can loosen it up and use it when you need it. >> okay. let's go inside to talk about fire safety. many of the issues here relate to fire, for example, we have a little smoke detector and i see you brought one here, a carbon

monoxide smoke detector. >> this is a combination of smoke and carbon monoxide detector. they are required in single homes now and in apartment buildings. if gas appliance is not burning properly this will alert you before the fumes buildup and will affect you negatively. >> this is a battery powered? >> this is a battery powered and it has a 10 year battery life. a lot of times you may have one or the other. if you put in just a carbon monoxide detector, it's important to have one of these too. every house should have a fire extinguisher, yes. >> one thing people expect to

do when the power goes out after an earthquake about using candles. what would you recommend? >> if you have a battery operated candle would be better to use. this kind of a candle, you wouldn't want it in an area where it can cause a fire or aftershock that it doesn't rollover. you definitely want to have this in a non-combustible surface. >> now, here we have our stove. after a significant earthquake we expect that we may have gas disrupted and so without gas in your home, how are you going to cook? >> well, i wouldn't recommend cooking inside of the house. you have to go outside and use

a portable stove or something else. >> so it wouldn't be safe to use your fireplace to cook? >> not at first. you should check it by a professional first. >> outside should be a safe place to cook as long as you stay away from buildings and doors and windows. >> yes. that will be fine. >> here we have some alternative cooking areas. >> you can barbecue and if you have a regular propane bark could barbecue. >> thank you for joining us.

and thanks for this terrific space that you have in this exhibition space and thanks for helping san francisco stay safe.

you i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. . >> thank you. >> this is a reminder to silence all electronic devices. the fire commission regular meeting wednesday october 24, 2018. the time is 5:00. item one roll call. (roll call).

>> item two general public comment. members of the public may address the commission for up to three minute os any matter within the commission's jurisdiction does not appear on the agenda. speakers shall address to the commission as a whole not to individual commissioners. commissioners are not to enter into debate with the speaker. lack every response by the commissioners or department personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement with or support statements made in public comment. >> any public comment? seeing none public comment is closed. madam secretary. >> item three approval of minutes. discussion and possible action to approve the meeting minutes of october 10, 2018. you. >> is there any public comment on the minutes?

seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners, what is your pleasure? >> moved. do i have a second. >> i second. i did ask the commission secretary to include just one little comment that really doesn't change anything very much. >> okay. with that amendment, i suppose, added, all in favor say aye. it is approved. >> item four report from chief of department joanne hayes-white on currentshires, activities and events within the department since the fire commission meeting on october 10, 2018. communications and outreach to government agencies and report from administration deputy chief nicholson. homeland security and training

within the department. >> good evening. i just heard from your colleague. he is in route about a block away. he will be joining us shortly. the last meeting was on october 10th. we have finalized the budget including the final mark os that. with regard to the upcoming budget we will begetsing budget innstruction this is about a month'sheim. i have spoken to the committee to discuss preparation for next fiscal year's budget. division training has been busy. in the process of offering the officer academy. all officers promoted within the last three years are expected to attend. the deputies and i spoke with

every class last week. on friday we were joined by the vice president to offer words of wisdom, expectations, congratulations as well for all of them stepping up. it is the biggest step from paramedic to the first level of supervision. they have many tools because they were promoted and did well to examine. this is to support them with additional aspects of their role and time for question and answers. we are taping it so those that may have missed a session may get up to speed as well as for officers that have been in their role for a longer period of time. if they want to refresh or retool, they will be able to view that on video. thank you, deputy chief nicholson. all of the staff at the division of training. in addition, a lot of people

including the ac as well as members in the field have come in to teach and train on their particular specialty. it is a lot of work into it paying off well. the same curriculum is given monday through friday for four straight weeks last week was module one. this week is module two. we put a general order. you are welcome to come anytime to observe. work it out with assistant deputy chief. sessions are held at 19th and fulsome. earlier this week the deputies and i welcomed the entry level one class. we have 24 full new full-time emts in training for six weeks. graduation date is november 30th, so they are off to a good start as well. we are still targeting a class of 54 members for h2 academy in

january of 2019. that process will get underway within the next few weeks. again, that is utilizing the h2 list adopted on september 19th. for people that took the test through july 28th. there are 2075 eligible people on the list. it is not particularly on the agenda. it is a topic o on everyone's md and i am committed to continue to further define the selection and identification of the training facility. we have even as recently as this morning we had a good conversation with the city administrator in working towards the process related to potential property swap between ourselves and pacific gas & electric.

it would be a site that is out and i can pass around the graphic near the indian base in shoreline park. what we are contemplates is looking at a property swap of parcel of 19th and fulsome the current dot facility with some of the pg&e property which will be a site used for affordable housing. right now the city is looking at doing what is called a test fit to look to see if that property meets our needs. we believe certain par selfs as well -- parcels as well. the city administrator is very optimistic and we are, too, that we are still on track for including this as part of the 2020 bond. the other thing i can pass around to you and we can provide

e-mail copy. it is lengthy. our predesigned planning study published last month for our training facility. good evening commissioner. okay. then activities since the last meeting on october 11th. assistant deputy chief and i attended the h sock policy group to work with other city agencies on streetiest. those are held every two weeks. on the 12th a number of us attended a meeting with doctor yee and deputy chief and myself attended the meeting with the interim department of public health greg wagner as well as a few doctors overseeing that department. doctor john brown talked about

some shared goals as we move forward, particularly, as it related to pre-hospital care in the city. we want to provide the interim director greg wagner with a grasp how we are doing in terms every response time, how we work close with the private ambulance companies and encourage dph as a whole. the ems is under dph to again sort every commit to shared goals and partnerships as it is related to how we provide pre-hospital medical care. that was very productive. as i said last week 15 through 19 every day we were out giving introductory remarks to the officers' academy. on the 15th a few you have us were at a long overdue but requested by the party that

received care. we had a patient reunion. that was a young man and i would like to credit john baxter for putting this together there. was a young man born in 1990 delivered and made the paper. he was born right at the toll plaza in oakland. his mother told him the story he was delivered we one of our members that was working for the ambulance company in 1990. they had never met. we brought them together, and i will pass around a little story about that. it was a great eunion fiction. -- reunification. marshall is a young man in schoolworking as an emt. it was great reuniting he and the person that delivered him

into this world. that was very gratifying. october 16th we had the monthly labor management meeting. very productive. 18th of october i participated with the police chief and deputy director and superintendent of schools and mayor london breed in shakeout california. we had an exercise at all workplaces as a reminder of how important it is to be prepared for seismic activity. we did a drop cover and hold drill with the students. later the deputy director and i have done it for five or six years a presentation on the san francisco fire department and overview. mark did a budget exercise with a group of students in leadership san francisco. they are adult learners through the chamber of commerce.

we participated in that. then that night there was a very good turnout. deputy chief gonzalez and i attended american legion awards night. they were honored. firefighter dwayne for community service and matt lane and steve kingler for efforts and rescues in a house fire in excel see your district. october 20th i was flanged by perfectly uniformed assistant chief cochran at the drill at the college prep. we appreciate father reese who is the president there. a lot going on at the school. they welcomed us and made for a more real drill because they had other activities going on at the school. my hat is off to the captain for

the work work she does in coordinating the work as well as the san francisco fire department members. we had 250 to 300 participants. i am amazed by those that give up saturday morning to spend three or four hours to hone their skills. realistic drills were conducted. the two deputy chiefs and i toured the site and gave opening comments and just wanted to again let the community know it is a free program. the neighborhood emergency response team program. i know commissioner covington has completed the program. 18 hours of important information, very empowering. lesson in first aid, how to use extinguisher and there are neighborhood nerd training sessions throughout the year. we also do a session in spanish

and one in cantonese. thank you again. we typically do the nerd drills twice each year. one in april for 1906 and then october 17th was the 29th anniversary of the earthquake. going out to the schools, these children are never experienced an earthquake of that magnitude. most of the teachers hadn't hadt either. it is important to convey the importance of a plan and beings prepared we tell the children to go home and teach parents and grandparents what we taught them that day. very warding. as i said earlier we welcomed 24 new members to the fire department as emts. a number of them are pair are meddeck -- paramedic licensed.

we already kind of know the quality of their work and their dedication. then last but not least that will conclude my remarks. i spoke with all of you. i did make the announcement i intend to retire in the spring. i am very much looking forward to it. i am excited bit. i am proud of the accomplishments i have seen over my 29 year career in the department, and very grateful as well. i think it is very helpful four the department to not have to rush into things for a smooth transition for my successor. monday was a great day to make that announcement. a relief to get the word out. i know there is a lot of speculation. then to finish up with you commissioner, it was the perfect day. third alarm i got to go to that. there was property damage. the crews did an incredible job.

you saw it t to have a 25 story building with 196 units having a complex high-rise fire which are very rare. our training plays off. everyone knew their role. you have to know what to do and you can't be fumbling around. what i witnessed that night was like a orchestra. everyone had a role and did it well. my hat is off to the commander and the aid. andre brown and frank with bryan, lobby control was ken yee. we had over 100 firefighters. those key players set the tone. we had the opportunity afterward to take a look at the 12th floor of the fire and it went up through the 16th floor. we went to the 16th floor and

worked the way down. tremendous job done by the firefighters. the building was well-built, concrete. it was contained to one corner of the building. my hat is off to all of those folks. i say it was a great day not only was it a third alarm fire only one injury was associated with that was miraculous really. next morning a little tougher a single alarm fire. crews did a great job there. same team. allen brown. they did a good job. i responded because there was a fatality. it was a tough case. young woman who died from burn injuries at the scene. obviously, something that we always want a happier story. you know, my thoughts and hearts go out to the members that responded to that. it was very consult including

the two paramedics. very difficult. working with the stress unit. we contacted them immediately and gave them a day off. not even in my career it stuck with me. it was a very difficult call. going from a great day monday then yesterday the reality how difficult the job can be from time to time. with that, you are going to have me and for many more meetings, a few more meetings. there will be plenty of time to go back. i feel very grateful and very fulfilled. thank you, commissioners, that finalized my report. >> thank you, madam chief. any public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. petitioner veronese.

>> chief, thank you for your report. you left off the most important part of your report was the last but not least you are obviously not going to leave this department any time soon until we will have the commission will have plenty of opportunity between now and then to honor you, and i want to start by saying that i did appear at the three-alarm fire on monday night. you are absolutely right, the department executed on that fire flawlessly, and it was nice to be able to go up into the building with you and check the damage. the reason for that is because

it gave me a sense of the type of just utter hell that those firefighters must have faced when uncertainty they must have faced when they had to climb 16 stories because the elevator key wasn't working, and i understand part of the attack strategy is to utilize the stairs. for those firefighters to climb those stairs with gear and hoses is pretty stunning. hats off to every single engine company and truck that showed up there. if you recall the truck numbers, i think 28 was there, which other engines were there? 2, 13. commissioners, it was absolutely amazing, but i want to round it back to the reason that our department is so successful with

fires like that is because of the experience that and the knowledge and the leadership you have brought to this department with the years of your service here. it is an honor to work with you. there will be plenty of time to honor you between now and the date you actually leave, it has been an honor to work with you and i look forward to working with you for the next six months. you have left this department in a much better place than it was when you first came to the department. you were one of the first women firefighters, as i understand, in this department. that may not have been easy to come into this fire department with all men, irish, italians, it could not have been easy to work up to chief. i look forward to working with you while you are here. i am very proud of the san

francisco to be part of the commission and work with you. thank you for that. like i said, there will be plenty opportunity between now and the months to come. the one thing i wanted to mention. i will save that for a different item. i did walk in a little bit late. i will get the brief on the training facility. it looks like we are making progress there. that is great. it also appears as though we are also going to be doing a ribbon-cutting for 16 on november 16th. >> don't hold your breath. we might have to postpone it. it will happen probably not on the 16th. we will let you know. >> that is good news. i walk by it's on a regular basis. we are getting close and that is great to see as well. hats off to all of those stations that responded to that fire. that was an incredible

experience and they did a great job. i know the residents that were there. very few residents were displaced that needed places to go. the american red cross were on the spot there for the residents as well. i know the city has another department. i can't remember the name. the fire department, police department, there may have been traffic controllers that were part of that effort. it was amazing to see the city services come together with the fire department at the front of the line. proud moment, chief, nice work. >> commissioner hardeman. >> thank you, mr. president. good report on all of the training. nice to hear about the possibility of going down to the port. that is great. that is terrific. i don't usually turn the tv on around 5:00.

i am on a state board and i was at a meeting for friday and i was studying for this one. i told my wife i was going to turn on the tv a little after 5:00. i picked up all of the stations covering the fire. it was really going. it was blazing away, and it was wonderful to see firefighters all climbing to the top. it brings up the point about elevators if that should or shouldn't be used. that is a discussion to be had at some date. perhaps i have heard from staff talk about whether or not they have an opinion whether elevators should be used in a fire. in that kind of building it might have been nice to use the elevator. that is another subject. congratulations, chief and

everybody on that fire. you did a good interview and i saw the commissioner behind you with the hat. i saw the baseball hat. just kidding. it was good to see you there. the transition that you have chose to take along with your discussion with the mayor is brilliant. i commend you on how that should be handled. it makes it easy so everybody, not just your staff. the commissioners and mayor to have all of this time to contemplate who the next chief will be. i am not going to go into comments about you and what you have done. that is for a later date, but

the bay bridge. i went through the article fast. the place of birth was it oakland or san francisco? it didn't say in there. she was on the way to st. luke's hospital. i hope they put san francisco. she probably wanted her baby born here. that was good. if i guess that's about all i will go into on your report. thank you. >> thank you commissioner hardeman. commissioner covington. >> thank you for your report and congratulation os your retirement. all i can say is common in, the water is fine. you know, the lord bless the person who thought up retirement. you work long enough and you finally get there. you get a few years of being on your own time.

congratulations on that. i agree that it is going to make for, you know, a smoother transition, particularly as regards the new training facility. we really need to lock that down. i also wantedtor as everyone else has done really commend everyone who fought the fire on washington street as well as, you know, those people who helped with coordination and everything else. it is really, really important. we are talking about training. in your report you mentioned training new officers. the training of a good firefighting force is so

important, and we have very good trainers, we have people who joined the department who have worked previously elsewhere but they still go through the way san francisco requires that you fight fires, and i am not surprised at all, and i appreciate your description of the coordination as a symphony because that is what is required, and that is what the members of the department deliver time and time again. i also saw the interview with you while you were on the fire ground giving the details of what had happened, and you are saying that now thaw the fire

was under control you could answer a question regarding your retirement. you know, the firefighting comes first and the chief was very, very clear on that. she did not want the light to be shown on her until everything else was under control. chief, i didn't get a chance to look at everything in this tone of a document so i would perhaps we can chat about it later, not at this meeting. >> i have an electronic copy to everyone. >> would you prefer a hard copy or e copy? >> i would prefer a hard margin. >> the secretary can reproduce it for you. >> i see that there are 9.7-ac

9.7-acres here. talking about the possible new training facility. am i correct it is the green section or orange? >> orange. >> okay. thank you. >> happy to walk through that with you if you would like at another time. i will get you a hard copy. >> thank you. the 9.7-acres would be very, very good because we have been bantering around 8-acres. i want to make sure that we are going to have enough space for everything. go ahead, chief. >> the 9.7 was written by someone for the three areas, one, two, three, which we