more of these. i am excited about the potential to do more of these. i think maggie is too. we haven't explored any further. >> did you get any comments after. >> i did. i got really nice comments and feedback from pride and burning man. they both were very enthusiastic about it. i got some general feedback like thank you for the information, i needed this. not exciting, but very practical >> no one said this wasn't useful. >> may be when the season starts , you could do it once a month and have a webinar. it would be interesting. >> i'm open to discussion. i think there's a lot of potential to scale it up and do more of these across the different initiatives that we have. >> okay. good job. >> thank you.

>> you said it is recorded, so if i wanted to -- when will it be posted? >> i'm trying to figure out how to edit some of the -- there are technical problems with the first minute of the webinar. i'm trying to make it a nice package. in the next week or two i will have that. >> it does not actually have to be a live question and answer type of session? i could just view it and get all the information too cost. >> yes. >> nice. i do think all the work you have been doing over the past year has been wonderful and to think about when i started on the commission and how we would talk about a webinar, it was not in the cards. so it's been great that you have 29 people showing up to a community educational event.

and people showing up to a webinar. it is fantastic. the more resources we can keep giving to the field -- i feel like you might need a title change, because you are doing a lot more than just rounding up cultural events stuff. there is a whole large educational component to its. >> people actually want to ask questions. like i want to know more about pop up indoor events. is there a tool for that? we do not have one and that is a potential area that i can speak to, because i've had to learn about it in the office. >> dylan has essentially become a concierge for anybody wanting to put on a one-time event. it doesn't always have to be outdoor. definitely something i would like to look at. >> yeah. it is fantastic. thank you for all that work. keep it up. >> i do have a question. during the last outdoor event, did you stream it on facebook? >> we tried. we had technical problems. i am trying to figure out if the

video capture worked, and if it did, a site -- we worked with a program partner. if it didn't work i would like get that up as well. but i think that that could be -- i think the facebook live tool is pretty profound in how accessible it is and how the reach is huge. so i can tell you more about it off-line if you would like to get into it. >> it would be -- it popped up in my timeline. i was watching everybody get ready for it. >> we had technical problems. >> i did not think i saw the actual talked. >> i think it's totally within the realm of possibility and i would like to do it. >> in terms of bringing together the outdoor producers for some of these start up and tech partners, was there any kind of cost savings that was made available to the attendees? >> i do not hear the last part of the question. >> is there a cost savings is one -- someone wanted to use the app for their events?

were they given some kind of code, i'm just curious. >> like a promotion for the attendees? >> some kind of notice. >> that would have been a really good idea. we didn't do any product sampling at the mixer. that wasn't even in my brain. i was more interested in trying to make sure that there was knowledge transfer. people really learned what they needed to learn. i left that idea. there were a lot of connections made with -- across industry, and then with some tech executives too. as far as product sampling, that was not done. i would love to talk to maggie about that for future. >> yeah. even just a promo code. buber does it. [laughter] thank you. are there any additional comments? >> a quick question. the thing on january 28 on

cannabis, is there a time -- i know it is that many's. >> usually these are at 5:30 pm or 6:00 so we work with the venue to figure that out. we want this to be an after work i. not too close to dinner when it starts. >> okay. we will stay tuned then. >> okay. >> is there any public comment on the report of the senior analyst, seeing none, public comment is closed. the next item on our agenda is number 6. police department questions and comments. i don't see any representatives from sfpd. they are not here to speak, and there will be no public comment on this sight and. okay. next item is item number 7. hearing and possible action regarding applications for permits under the jurisdiction

of the entertainment commission. the executive director, please introduce the permit applications of the evening. >> thank you, vice president. all right. to kick off this evening's permits agenda, i want to let you all know that this will be my last time presenting on permit applications bar any time a deputy director is on vacation i'm very excited about that. so i wanted to give that plug. tonight, on the agenda, the first item is a limited performance permit application. this is for woods station. and this is a venue that potentially, a few of them in the city, there is one in my neighbourhood as well. it is serving beer and wine like beverages. it is a very small venue. the owner and manager, who is here tonight, pablo, is wanting to have small groups of acoustic

musicians performing at the venue to add entertainment to their existing operations. to tell you a little bit more about their application is pablo i just wanted to let you all know, i did not receive any letters of protest on this item and the police department approved it with no conditions. >> thank you. good evening, commissioners. can you hear me okay? >> my name is pablo. i am the bar manager. unfortunately jim what's could not attend. he has already gone for the holidays. while he did fill out the application, i was the one who did the legwork. i did the outreach. i will be the one representing. like she said, we are one of five locations located in the bay area and this one is located in russian hill on pulp and green. is by far the smallest of all the locations standing at 350 square feet. why i mentioned the size, in a

-- i am applying for a permit -- performance permit and the signs will have a lot to do with what music we play and how we plan to play it. if you were to ask anybody to describe the bar, one word that comes up is cute and cozy. it never really gets rowdy. it is a cabinet lodge theme in a very tight space. is very much a relaxed atmosphere. we just like to add music. we really think that having live performances will add to the many rich and enjoyable experiences of russian hill. at the beginning of the month, i spent -- sent out about 75 letters notifying that we applied. any windows or storefronts within earshot or eyesight of the bar. i personally reached out to many residents as well as businesses, at for the most part, we received very positive responses we have copies of letters of support from some patrons as well as a business, blue barn,

which is one of the neighboring businesses. we have met with some people with some concern. i will tell you what i told them we are a tiny bar and my motto has been, it always has been, less is more. if we do get the permit, we would like to do 1-2 our sets. mostly soloists and maybe duos. folk or jazz types of musicians. minimal amplification, if at all i personally would like to have artist to perform acoustically. we don't want any collector of equipment or wires that they have to step over it nor do we want any music to be so loud so customers can't keep a conversation. however, we do know that some artists would prefer to perform and if that is the case, we plan to give notice to our direct neighbours in advance and we hope to keep it at a reasonable volume. with that said, we plan to have someone from the commission of entertainment to conduct a sound test.

i am also currently doing research on those magnetic window frames that you can attach acrylic glass so that we don't -- we did receive one complaint across the street, at the apartments above cold hardware. i don't want to bother them. i've given the neighbour is my personal phone number, my work e-mail, i made it very clear i want to keep an open dialogue with them. we don't want to disturb. we want to accommodate. i would also like to add i did meet with officer walsh. a very nice man. he did not add any conditions to the permit. all in all, we think that live music would be cool. we definitely want to keep the theme of a relaxing and cozy and we pretty much are picturing a woman or a man playing on a guitar on a stool. we think it would actually help out the community. we hope that it would increase business, not just for us but for neighboring shops. and lastly, i made it very clear

to everybody how appreciative, how grateful we are to be part of the russian hill community. we don't want to ruffle any feathers. russian hill is a hidden gem. we think a little live music would add to the neighbourhood. thank you. >> thank you. commissioners? >> it is only 350 square feet. it is small. where do you plan to put your stage? >> there is a neighboring business. they are a wind story. they mention to us they don't want anything on their side because they do not want the bottles to rattle. our other side is project juice and they close at 7:00. we figure we would start, if we got the permit, we would start a seven or 8:00. but we would probably keep it close to the window, but away from the wall and may be -- if there was amplification, we would be facing project juice so as not to bother anyone.

>> so basically, it is acoustic, and a microphone for the vocals. >> yeah. i'm really picturing something like bob dylan, acoustic. we have a t.v. screen that we usually put a fireplace on. we want to keep that canon lodge -- cabinet logic theme. we are open minded too. i was thinking jazz music as well. >> you know, you have to shut the doors when you are playing. do you have enough air? 350 square feet is not very big. >> we would shut the windows and shut the door. you may cut stuffy. we learn as we go. step one is to get the permit and then we will see how we go from there. >> all right. >> is this an in-house p.a. system? >> we figure, -- hopefully it would be mostly acoustic, but if they did need amplification, the artist would have to provide.

>> how do you plan to test their equipment and make sure that they are within the limits that we set? >> that would be an obstacle because every artist would have their own amplification. if we do get a sound test, we would have some idea. i was actually talking with mike , and the -- and the neighbors, the resident and the neighboring business, i would want them to come by and actually hear it out. i would want them to tell me if this is the right volume. that way our bartenders would know from experience that that would be the right volume. >> we will also set a sound limit for you via this permit. i'm curious, aside from listening with your ear, do you have any other things you will use? >> i guess communication. just making sure that the neighbors know. every do use amplification, neighbors would find out. they would have my number if every -- if anything would go wrong. we live in a digital age.

we can text them. if we have to pull the plug, then we would. we don't want to bother anybody. we really want to accommodate, and if we have to shut it down, we would. >> i highly recommend getting a sound metre. you can rely on that to count and test what will -- what your actual decibel level is. aside from that back i think we want to make sure that as you sound like you don't want these complaints, we want to make sure there are ways people can address it. if you are within your limits, it makes people -- and it makes people upset, that is something we can contest and push back onto. this sounds great. it's really small, and i think we want to support small businesses doing more like music i hope this goes well for you. >> thank you. >> may be as one suggestion that these small little speakers, if

you had your own, they don't cost much, and they set the level to that, then the musician wouldn't have to provide their own. then you have a little bit more control. >> i think it's a good idea. >> look into that. it is a possibility. >> i think if we see any history of knowing the industry and bands and performers that come in and really have their own preference for how loud they like things, then generally it is louder than neighbors like things. the more you can work around to that with the technology that is available, that will be in your interest. >> noted. >> okay. any more questions? okay. you can go ahead and have a seat [laughter] >> okay. commissioners, let's begin conversation.

i'm sorry. is there any public comment for this item? seeing no public comment, public comment is closed. >> i moved to approve, and there is no police conditions. just an approval with our standard good neighbour policy. >> second. >> commissioner thomas? [roll call] >> okay. your permit application is conditionally granted. please follow up with our executive director for next steps. thank you. congratulations. okay, our second permit application for this evening is for a place of entertainment. this is for executive order bar and lounge, located at 868 mission street.

this is a venue that will be going in very close to the mall. and the owner and operator has been in the industry for quite some time. he was also the owner and operator for sip bar and lounge. sorry cat just a little bit of what he was looking out to do for entertainment. some small acoustic and live performers. standup comedians, d.j.s, doing top 40 or house, rock and roll, and so i did not receive any letters of protest on this item either. i did receive some letters of support. i know the owner and operator gave me a download of all of the outreach she did in the area. although it's very densely commercially populated, as opposed to residentially. a little bit less concern about

people sleeping nearby. in the back of your packet, you will see substation permit also, provided -- they provided aid to recommended conditions for you to take a look at. when discussing your approval, they are very typical from southern station. nothing really out of the ordinary. here i am here to tell you about their application and their plan operations in entertainment. here is the owner,. -- here is the owner. >> good evening. good evening, vice president, commissioners. executive director. welcome to the team. and fellow audience member. [laughter] and one of my d.j.s.

my name is john. sanchez and i am applying for a place of entertainment permit. thirteen years ago when i did this for sip, this was not part of the process. we were all strength -- trying to figure out how to regulate things as far as entertainment. some people were aware they had to have an entertainment license there are various different kinds. cabaret, dance hall, it is very nice to have it streamlined now. and organized in a more efficient manner. i ran sip for about 13 years and was told by my landlord they had to do a soft story retrofit on my building in chinatown. that process would have entailed moving everything that i had accumulated, it if you can imagine, 13 years of things you accumulate personally, imagine a business accumulating 13 years of staff. but having to move that out so

they could retrofit the whole ground floor and then come back and potentially have to face a rent increase or different terms in my lease, i stopped the opportunity to find a place where i might be a little bit more successful and have more foot traffic and it would be closer to home. i live in the district south of market on the full sum between fourth and fifth, about three or four blocks, long blocks, away from the new venue which is on the street level, ground floor of the westfield san francisco shopping centre. directly above me, and behind me ended to the side of me are bloomingdale's. i'm surrounded by bloomingdale's one of my neighbors is the pickwick hotel parking garage.

across the street is the sip in mission parking garage and good vibrations. the spritz, a pizza shop, further down on the corner, at the end of jesse west allie is the cavalier restaurant. and then there ball are disbarred within a bar that they open up every now and then with a pink door for v.i.p. and rock stars. so i've got the hotel above charmaine's, bloomingdale's and to the mall above me, no one directly across the street from me, a buffer of the pickwick hotel's garage, and the pickwick hotel right above it. i have reached out to all of those entities except for the parking lots. as far as my coming out there, as well as other hotels who are nearby. the intercontinental, and the

marriott, and so forth. i have gone through all of the various inspections and permits, and as the director has explained, i am looking to have the ability, once again, to have standup comedy on weeknights, acoustic performers, something different and just seven nights a week of d.j. music. because that would drive me nuts and not everyone wants to hear top 40 d.j.s every night of the week necessarily. i want to be able to provide different kinds of programming. be it a speaker or a lecturer, and i think the commission oversees all of that. whether someone is speaking publicly, or singing publicly, or playing an instrument publicly. that is all under the hospices

of this commission. i got really close to the microphone there. i also -- i have a very patiently going through the process of transferring a liquor license of type 48, which is a pure alcohol liquor license, beer and wine, into the district , which has involved the a.b.c. and vetting of the police police department, and planning, and a period of comment and protests from the community. pcn resolution that was passed by the public safety and neighborhood services committee. and then the full board of supervisors to get the type 48 into this space. although i do have a huge kitchen, on a plan to serve food as well, but it will always be a 21 and up venue because of the 48 license. the sfpd alcohol liaison unit

required that i agreed to conditions of operations which are part of the liquor license. they involve all of the recommendations that the sfpd have recommended to this commission, and a few additional items, basically policing the area, maintaining generally a good neighbor attitude towards the neighbors and passersby and visitors in the area. i could talk forever, but i'm sure everyone is tired. i'm happy to answer any questions, and explain further. and last but not least, in the process of the p.c.n., i have discovered that the neighborhood i live in is part of the officially recognized soma soma filipina cultural district. i have worked with the team

there to potentially have many events with them, cosponsored, happening at our venue should our entertainment permit be approved. [please stand by] >> which, i b

kind of standard for my neighbors' bars and restaurants, and all of us are able to stay open until 2:00 a.m. on thursday and saturday nights. so concerns from the hotels as far as sound coming from me as opposed to coming from their own. >> great. thank you. >> first of all, you know, sit bar, for being in chinatown, when it first opened, the hip bar on broadway before china live, and we're doing -- a bunch of us are trying to revitalize

chinatown, and i miss the sit bar being there. i know as an operator, you're really a responsible guy, which is great, but i have some questions about the space because i used to go to volta. it was really good food, but after spending all that money, it closed within eight months. it has a lot of windows. you're doing acoustics, and you're doing sound and i guess will do a sound check and everything. but those windows have any sound reinforcements or any -- are you compensating for any -- any kind of heavy db? >> well, i guess it's not going to be a club-club, it's going to be more of a lounge. but have you already invested in some soundproofing there? >> i have not done anything to the windows, but i believe we're

double paned. i cannot hear any sound outside when i'm inside, and we did do a sound test this past friday with my sound engineer wihich has augmented the volta speakers only with one subwoofer. i believe i sent the sound test results to maggie -- to executive director weiland. as far as decibel levels, ambient sounds of traffic and noise, when he pinged the super loud bass hum and the different levels and compared with the decibel level inside and outside, our front doors automatically close, so a

doorman will be outside, checking i.d.s, allowing people to come in, and it closes on its own. it's on a hydraulic device. we installed a cantilever that will be extending a mesh metal drape in front of it that should dampen any sound that is going in that direction as the door opens. when i have more money after i've spent pretty much i have right now getting this place up and going, but the plan is to also augment all of the mission street ground floor and mezzanine levels as well as the jesse west windows with the same

mesh metal fabricoil material. >> and the events that you plan to have there, are they going to be all in-house? >> yes. >> do you plan someone

that i trust very much will be there. >> okay. thank you. >> hi. >> hello. >> thanks for coming in. it's exciting about hearing another venue like this coming in when we just heard about mezzanine. it's good to hear there's still going to be night life down there. i've always wondered why there isn't more, but i think part of it is obviously a liquor license issues and having a cap on that.

i do want to kind of just appreciate you and commend you for all your community i've worked with a couple of comedy organizers. one of them, a jaemt named stroymois, operates a comedy group called hello funny.

they get a bunch of comics, and they come out, and they tell jokes. and we basically -- in the past, we have not charged anything for people to come in. it's where we were at citizenshisip, it was a very difficult place to get people to come into. the comedy route was something i personally enjoyed bartending during a comedy show, and guests enjoyed that it was a different format than what they were used to in that space. oftentimes, that was the first experience people had in that space, and then they later on came on the weekends. the d.j. program, i had run since inception of opening sip. we were only open friday and saturday nights, and essentially, i plan to only do

friday and saturday and possibly some thursday nights where, you know, one of the ten or 12 different d.j.s that i've worked with over the last decade will come in and perform, you know, from 9:30 or 10:00 until 1:30 to provide a cooling off time and get people to slowly make their way out. i plan to still continue my policy of not charging a cover charge for people coming in because i want them to like the space and not feel like oh, i paid money and this sucks, and i'm disappointed. i'd rather they come in, and if they don't like what chris is spinning, they can complain or they can leave and not feel like they've wasted money on a cover charge. >> can i interrupt you? >> yeah, sure. >> so it sounds like you're have a rotating set of regular d.j.s.

is there any bigger names that you're trying to get to come in there? >> no. i'm not trying to get tiesto or anything. >> why not? >> if i was an august hall, if i was a big venue, if i was designed in that manner, if i had, you know, the kind of sound and speakers that some of these really great devoted dance clubs have, then, i would go that route. but i'm old-er than i was. i wanted to create a space that was something that the people in their 30's and 40's and 50's could feel comfortable going to and not feel like oh, i feel out of place here because i'm old and married now. or it's too loud here. i can't have a conversation.

i like a place with good music where you can still have a conversation with someone, have a good bite to eat, have a good cocktail, and if you're so moved, you know, shake your booty a little bit, but that's not what it's about. it's about creating an environment that is -- is fun and something that -- that the more mature people in -- in our society can also enjoy. >> great. everyone of all ages needs to have fun. >> everyone over 21. >> at your place. all right. my final thing that i just want to say is i think it does seem like the sfpd conditions that they're recommending are pretty standard. just as a comment to our commissioners, i'd probably like to strike most of them, and we can go through that in the motion, only because they're not any different from standard

practice and seem redundant. so yeah, i mean, things around having a security plan and complying with s.f. fire code and things like that just seem a little excessive, especially if some of these are codefied in things that this particular business owner has. but any way, it sounds like you've done all your homework and we'll see how this goes. i think it'll go your way, but thank you for coming up here today and explaining it to us. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> may i sit? >> yes. >> okay. >> no more questions. okay. thank you. >> thank you. okay. okay. public comment on this permit application is open. we have three minutes. >> hi. good evening, commissioners. i just wanted to introduce

myself. my name is katrina lawanna. i'm with soma filipina. so we wanted to express our support for john sanchez and his team to open the executive order bar and lounge currently in the vacant westfield space on 868 mission street. mr. sanchez expressed already a firm commitment to be a good neighbor to us and to work collaboratively with soma filipinas to enhance our goals around cultural disability, community development without further displacement, and the connect injustice -- economic injustice that we tried to deal with in the district.

we're happy to support a business that has committed to working with local businesses to open up entry level job opportunities. working with soma filipinas art and culture committee already in creating and curating additional art pieces that incorporate filipino and filipina history into its decor. we're hoping that also with these performance nights, it can provide a platform for filipino creatives to explore their talents and also to propagate current issues in the neighborhood. we're also excited that the executive bar has also committed to hosting six only pop up dinners for aspiring filipino food businesses with no venue rental fees, explore possibility of commissary, and to open bids

for filipino pastery chefs for its daily filipino coffee program. we're hopeful that executive order lounge will contribute to the commercial corridor when its eventual activation happens. i think community members and residents have really been looking for night life for quite sometime, especially one that is not just outside of the undiscovered just once a month, so we're really excited. thank you. >> thank you. okay. commissioners. >> all right. i'll go ahead and move to approve this permit application with police conditions three and eight, prescribing all the rest. there's no major issues with the rest, other than they're codified in our good neighbor

policies. i would also amend number eight to include notifying the entertainment commission. so southern station permits officer, the events supervisor special events, and the entertainment commission for situational awareness. that's my motion. >> second. [roll call] >> okay. excellent. your permission application is agencially granted. please follow up with executive director weiland. >> congratulations. >> okay. the final item on the agenda is number eight, commissioners comments and questions. >> well, you know, just to talk about mezzanine closing because

they lost their lease, sip bar closing because of the retrofit. it's just what's happening in san francisco in places like south of market, old places are going to be sold or go out of business, unfortunately. lucky for mr. sanchez, he found another spot, and he has the seasoned responsibility and opportunity to continue a nicely, even better run, maybe -- not -- i'm sure it's run well, but a better place that is more tolerable to entertainment. so i think in our level, we pushed the supervisors to do some sort of entertainment legacy because it's going to happen. it's just in economic things, whether it's greed or what. it's just the only spaces there's now to build on, it's just the warehouses are now targeted. and if developers are making partnerships with the owners, there's nothing we can do to

happen it. and hopefully, there's other facilities we can offer them out there to move their business. you know, that's -- in my opinion as a business owner, it's just hard to -- especially on leases, you know they just don't care, you know? it's -- they -- they might have gave good leases for the last ten years, but this is their opportunity to get out or move on or maybe the parents passed away, and the kids don't want it. there's a lot of things, and i hope that more people like mr. sanchez -- i hope deborah finds another place for mezzanine, and i think we should look at other spaces that might be viable for them to move to, recommendations or what. otherwise, it's going to happen no matter what, you know? right, guys? you guys kind of know.

>> yeah. figure out some way to get new development to include entertainment venues as part of what's considered part of what new development has to include. i don't know. i don't know if that's possible to do, but i feel like the new development that goes up never has any entertainment venues, and they end up closing down the other ones, driving up the property values or driving up the noise. how do we make it part of an expected contribution to a community when you build something new. >> right. >> and commissioner lee, your comment on owners passing away and their kids, and that's exactly what happened to deb and mezzanine. here. it's really sad. i just had one little announcement. i just wanted to plug our holiday party another time.

i'll have another opportunity on december 4, but i wanted to let you know we have 900 rsvps, which is kind of incredible, and we have all of our talent scheduled now, so we have honey mahogany as emcee. we have the helements as our opening band. they're age 13 to 15, so that's going to be adorable. and then, we have our closing band, lydia and the projects, which is an african american female fronted soul band doing covers, for the most part. and we also have some big attendees that are supervisors and senator wiener is going to say a few words, and the mayor is attending and saying a few words, as well. keep pushing it out there. we have a lot of food donations,

we have a photo booth, so "ay." >> director weiland, what's the dress code? >> party fabulous. definitely not casual. i think you all need to be ambassadors of entertainment, so maybe a little sparkle would be cool. >> sparkle? okay. >> can you remind people -- >> to all of our avid viewers out there -- >> all our fans. >> i know of maybe three. this is going to be on monday, december 10 at august hall, 420 mason street, from 5:45 to 9:00 p.m. the weird start time is because we have to have a commission meeting at 5:30 since we'll have a quorum. >> okay. thank you. so on behalf of the entertainment commission family,

we'd like to extend our deepest condolences to you, laura, for the loss of your partner, kanani koga. we're deeply saddened, and our hearts and prayers go out to you and your family and your loved ones. we are here for you. >> thank you. >> yeah, and we dedicate tonight's meeting inform her beautiful spirit and legacy. >> thank you. >> commissioners, do you want to add anything? okay. all right. is there any public comment on commissioner questions and comments? seeing none, public comment is closed. this meeting is adjourned at 6:52 p.m. thank you.