staff recommended as the revised standard every view. i would ask for a second. >> commissioner kopp: i will accept that amendment to my motion that we approve attachment 1 as amended based on the language we were shown by staff. >> commissioner kopp. >> >> commissioner kopp: i thought it was to give the public an opportunity to comment and review that amendment. de novo is not a trivial principal, and i would think people might have opinions about it. >> commissionerly. >> commissioner lee: thank you, madam chair. my support for taking action on attachment 1 today there are a

couple reasons. one, i do agree with the director that the more time to allow the public to get used to the new regulatory changes and more importantly for the staff to prepare. we are hitting the holiday season in december, and much of what is included in attachment 1 was already discussed at the last meeting. it was based on the last discussion that we had that the staff had prepared for attachment 1. i do think that the public had the opportunity to comment, am i right, at the last meeting? the proposed regulatory changes were reflected by the

commission's comments as well as public comment. >> that's correct, but i think the point from commissioner kopp and that i was making as well, the public notwithstanding we are adviced that the change in standard every view is within the scope of the notice that it is a change, that we have discussed here and given public comment. it would give people an opportunity to read the language and review it. in the interest of transparency and comedy, i guess i am arguing that we just make that change and bring the regulations back in december. you can put it on as separate item so it is clear it can move forward independently from the legislative recommendations. it is separate and apart from

recommending that we change the law which is a much more complicated process requiring board vomit. to get along and give the public an opportunity i would say -- i am not sure where we are on the motions. i am inclined to put it over to december. >> commissioner kopp: first thing to do is adopt the amendment. >> the current pending motion t approve attachment 1 as amended with the new standards for law and for fact. that was seconded. now what we -- do we need to have a separate amendment to approve the second motion to approve the amendment? >> you can take a separate motion to approve the

amendments then resolve whether you are going to pass the amended regulations today or put them over to next month or you could act on what i understand is now with commissioner lee's motion or commissioner renney's motion to pass it today in two steps or one. >> two steps. first motion to amend attachment 1 to provide for standard every view for dinovo for fact and clearly rereasonious issues of law. is there a second? >> i need the motion. i am not seconding it. >> commissioner kopp: i second it. >> all in favor.

that passes unanimously. the second motion. commissioner ambrose original motion was to approve today do you want to go forward or a to hold it over? >> that was commissioner renee's motion. >> commissioner kopp: the motion i make we approve attachment 1 as amended. >> i will second. >> all in favor. those opposed. so the motion carries 3-2. >> agenda item 6 discussion of monthly staff policy reports. >> thank you, chair.

item 6 sets forth the policy divisions report on activity over the last month. i won't go through it. it is best to make myself available for questions. you will see the public financing review project at item 5 appears here, and otherwise there are items not before you today. i would be glad to answer questions about those. >> i have one question on page 3, item b-1 whistleblower ordinance. the rules committee meeting on november 7th was cancelled. is there a date for the next meeting? >> i believe there is to be one more meeting before the legislative session ends. i don't know the exact date. i am regularly checking in with the chair of the rules committee

and trying to get an update on whether or not this item will appear at the meeting and the date. i have not gotten confirmation on that. >> it is possible it could be heard on the latest session but it is possible it will be held over, pushed to next year. >> that's correct. >> thank you. commissioner lee. >> commissioner lee: i just have a question. given the whistleblower ordinance as well as the ethics reform ordinance, both authors are to relieve the board at the end of this year. do you have any idea whether someone else has picked up sponsorship of these bims or where is it going? >> i can't hear you. >> commissioner lee: the whistleblower as well as the

proposal since both of the sponsors will be leaving the board at the end of this year. do you have any idea if someone else is going to pick up the steam, so to speak, or what is going to happen to them? >> whistleblower i don't know. that is a good question. i am not sure what would happen if president cohen were to leave the board. >> she is leaving. >> if the item were outstanding. maybe the deputy attorney can speak on that. >> there is a process when the sponsor or all sponsors of a piece of legislation leave the board and the legislation is pending the clerk will reach out to all supervisors to see -- to see if they will take it up. if one says yes, it will stay alive. if no sponsor moving it, the

clerk will file the item and it won't move forward. >> if that were to happen we would reach out to the supervisors to see if we could find someone to pick the item up rather than letting it float on the wind. >> commissioner kopp: refresh my memory. i am looking at the summary of bills watch. did the commission take a commission on each of those bills our none of them? >> none. this is from the fppc. >> commissioner kopp: i know the origin. >> support is not this commission. that is fppc. >> commissioner kopp: i remember a year ago discussing this subject of following bills which affect our subject matter and

taking positions on them. has that been abandoned or never instituted? >> i think this list is made available to you in part to keep you appraised should you wish to take a position on it, this is to lets you know what bills you might want to take a position on. >> commissioner kopp: starting in january or february when bills are introduced, we will be informed in the meeting packet? >> i will continue to provide this list. >> commissioner kopp: thank you. >> for the commission, for the record, the commission cannot take a position on state legislation on behalf of the city. only the board of supervisors or the state legislation which is another city body. >> we can recommend it? >> yes. >> commissioner kopp: i think we

should if inclined and interested to do so. >> any other comments or questions for mr. ford? public comment on this item? there being no public item agenda item 7 staff enforcement report including update including highlights and activities since the last monthly meeting. >> commissioners, you have seen the report that is concise. i will observe there are new graphics for you and the public to be hopefully better appraised of the complaints before the enforcement division. both in terms of those in preliminary review, which is the process we have described as

triage and those complaints under open investigation. i would like to acknowledge staff of the electronic disclosure and data analysis team for making those graphics available to you. i am happy to receive question the commissioners might have. >> any questions? just warranted to commend you and -- wanted to commend you and the team for making progress against the big backlog of cases and also they keep coming. keep it up. well-done. public comment on agenda item 7. there being number. we move too item 8. discussion of the executive director's report.

>> thank you. this report has had brief updates for you. we want a quick snapshots of the forecast from election 2018 in terms of the scope of work, volume of public financing and candidates in the june and november elections. as a segway to identify two key activities that we will turn to separate and apart from what you normally see regarding election related work. there is a requirement in the ordinance that we provide a report every post-election to the board and mayor's office about the public financing program so that is something we will work to do in the normal course of things, summarizing information and data from june and november since we had both elections this year. that report we will base on the

final calendar year figures those are semi-annual reports at the end of january. we will present that to you for informational purposes and through that process as we issue other items of interest there we will highlight those in the report as well as basic statistics for the record year after year about the public financing program. in terms of the required audit, you may recall we did secure the report of the controllers office for the 2016 campaign of public financed candidates. the controller has agreed to provide support for the mandatory public financing audits for the 2018 candidates there. are five committees to be audited. we will work to do the auditors of nonpublic finance candidates

as well as remaining audits from the 2016 election. because you have enthusiasm year's busy -- because of this year's busy election process we are completing the 10 audits that are not completed. we have committee audits we selected. we will do that now post-election. we will be working to leverage fund us that are available through the language of the campaign finance ordinance we can tap some of the election campaign fund for administration of work related to the fund. we believe accountability for public financing audits is a piece of that. that is something we will leverages to defray the resources to help with the november 2018 campaigns we

audit, 10 of those. we are returning to audits to hope to make progress on that and continues assistance of controller's office. that is where we are. we continue to be in the exam phase for five positions that have been in recruitment. we are moving from written exam to oral exam in the next month. i detailed information how that process works. we are attempting to be as aggressive as we can given constraints for when exams can be scheduled with core exams. we are making progress. we will look forward to giving you more information next month where we are. i am happy to take questions you might have.

>> with regard to hiring do you anticipate you will be able too make offerers early new year. >> i hope so. >> so ideally we will be staffed up in the first quarter? >> i hope that is the case. any other questions from commissioners on this report? public comment? no public comment. okay. agenda item 9. discussion possible action regarding probable cause determination for complaint received for violations. if there is a desire to go into closed session to discuss this. we will take public comment on agenda item 9. there being none and no motion to go into closed session we will head to again take item 10.

discussion and possible action regarding probably cause for complaint alleges violations of lobbyist ordinance article 2, chapter 1 of the san francisco campaign and government conduct code. >> to clarify we placed it on the agenda as a place holder. no commissioner requested to calder the report for consideration. it is a dead item. there will be no action, discussion our public comment. >> i was wondering what that was. agenda item 11 discussion and possible action on items for future meetings. public comment on agenda item 11. >> commissioner kopp: my question is what is the decision on the december meeting? >> it will be held on the

regular scheduled date dust 21 -- december 21st at 2:00. >> when? >> december 21st, friday at 2: 2:00. public comment on agenda item 11. agenda item 12. additional opportunity for public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda pursuant to ethics commission by laws article section 2. okay. motion to adjourn. >> commissioner kopp: so moved. >> second. we are done. we are adjourned. have a wonderful give everyone. have a wonderful thank giving everyone.

we are >> this is the hearing of the san francisco entertainment commission. i'm the commission vice president. if you are a member of the public and would like to speak, there are speaker forms you can fill out that are located at the front of the tables, and once you complete that on hand it to our staff are come up to the microphone, i can call you for public comment.

we do ask that you turn off your cell phones or put them on silent and that includes our commissioners and staff. a big shout out to san francisco government t.v. and media services for sharing this meeting with the public. we can start with the roll call. [roll call] >> the other commissioners have excused absences. >> thank you. first order of business is public comment. is there any public comment for items not listed on the agenda? if you don't -- yeah,. okay. is it for any of the items that are on the agenda?

okay. it will come up a bit later. thank you. all right. public comment is closed. the next item on the agenda is item two, approval of our minutes for november 6th, 2018 commissioners? do we have a motion on the approval of minutes for november 6th, 2018? >> i do have -- let's see. page 2, my comment about the chief and up. i think it should be soma -- what is it? it was a night club. the owners' coalition. it is not just soma. it's kind of weird. just say soma safety commission.

i don't know, nightclub owners, stakeholders. >> all right. i moved to approve with that one change and i don't know if there's any others, but i don't have any. >> okay. >> commissioner thomas? >> let's open it to public comment. is there any public comment on the minutes? saying none, public comment is closed. commissioner thomas? >> aye. [roll call] >> okay. the minutes have been approved. the next item on the agenda is a report from our executive director.

>> all right. good evening, commissioners. this is very interesting sitting up here, since i was down below. i just wanted to update you on a quite -- quite a few things this evening. first of all up the world city of culture forum was hosted in san francisco last week by the san francisco arts commission. and both dale and bryce and i were lucky enough to be included in some of the events, including their gallop which was on thursday night. it was a black-tie gala. it was very interesting. we met people from all over the world to serve in arts capacities. it was an amazing learning experience. in future, we would hope to embed in world cities with the culture forum or create something similar to that around entertainment and music, as we

thoroughly believe that this is just as qualifying of an art as anything else. world cities cultural forum was started in the city of london and it's a convenor of city policymakers that share research and best practices and explore the vital role of culture in their future prosperity. so dylan went out afterward and was able to meet and mingle with a lot more of the attendees of the gala and made a lot of really vital connections. we are really excited about that another item i wanted to update you all on, i don't remember the last time we have updated you on this, but this is sound diplomacy. this is a group that is coming to san francisco the week of our holiday party, december 10th, through the 14th.

the office of economic and workforce development and my counterpoint over there put together a request for proposal for a music industry study for san francisco and found diplomacy was the group that was chosen. so this is some of the beginning of their research. they will be conducting group interviews and surveys across our entire music industry. i was included -- i have included a snapshot of sound diplomacy's work here in san francisco within my director report. you can take a look at its. this will be a really interesting prosit -- cross segment arrangement. we are really hoping that we get some action items out of their visit. this will be an ongoing study and we will keep you apprised of that. i believe some of the commissioners are invited to

attend. i think commissioner lee will be invited to one of the discussions. we have a whole discussion around nightlife menu owners and operators as well as event producers. we will be convening those folks that we already work very closely with. that will be a really great project. moving right along, i wanted to introduce everyone to our new deputy director, caitlin. she just started yesterday and although it's only been two days , i already feel so much better. she comes from us -- comes to us from alameda county. i will let her say a couple of words, and welcome, kaitlin. >> good evening, commissioners. hello. i'm excited to be here, as maggie mentioned, i did come

from alameda county. i was previously working with the superior court of california and i am extremely excited to be joining the entertainment commission team and working in this capacity. i am here to help you and support you and i look forward to working together. >> awesome. thank you, kaitlin. another item in my report, and i think this might be null at this point, is a reminder to pleas work with our commission secretary, crystal, and letting her know whatever meetings you cannot attend and at least through january, at this point because we want to ensure we have a quorum moving forward. she has responses from just about everyone at this place. thank you so much. finally, i wanted to update you about the notice to appear that we issued to halcion and to this information the agenda is already incorrect.

it was originally correct when i published the agenda, but the commission hearing for this will now be on december 18th. we are currently working on a very large public records request on behalf of the permit holder. that has essentially pushed back their hearing date. i will keep you all apprised of the work on that item. do you have any questions for me >> i noticed in the pocket a news announcement about mezzanine. >> so sorry. thank you. i forgot to bring that up because it was not on the agenda i don't know -- i believe a lot of you have read about this today. its something that i have known was perhaps going to happen for quite some time and i'm very sad to hear that it is happening. mezzanine is being displaced by their land owner.

and that will be happening within a year. it is a really sad story because they will be -- basically the owners worked with a realtor who said that they could get $50,000 a month in rent if they turn this into office space. that is what they are pushing to do back and this is not a good story. it was a female owned a female run venue, from front doors providing live music in a safe and fun environment for patrons to attend. i push this out to the mayor's his office today. there are a lot of city supervisors who are also really concerned to reach out to the owner. it is getting a lot of media coverage. i think that it is a story we should share but i think we should look toward solutions and how we can help prevent against this happening again in the

future. do you have any questions or thoughts on that? >> i definitely agree that we should look toward solutions to try to prevent this. this is one new victim of many other nightclubs like elbow room and others who have closed down over the years. has more properties look like lucrative for developers, we will continue to see this. i am really sad. i'm sorry to the whole team at mezzanine. i think that why kate we are here to protect nightlife as a commission, and i think that all of us are probably going to be willing to sit down and try and think about what preservation strategies can we have on a city level two support businesses like this. i have had a lot of great memories there, and there's been an incredible music acts that have come through their.

we had our entertainment commission holiday, was at the holiday party? >> jocelyn's going away party. >> there's a lot of history there that is tied to the commission and not. i wish that greed wasn't a factor in how people run their businesses. i'm sorry to them and i look forward to -- i don't know how many more months. eleven more months of really great to nightlife their. we will see what happens in that time. >> keep us in the loop in terms of what, if anything the entertainment commission can do. i know that both members of the board of the supervisors and incoming members of the board are very interested in figuring this out. hopefully they can put pressure on the landlord and save the space. >> okay.

all right. is there any public comment on our director's at report? seeing no public comment, public comment is closed. >> welcome to kaitlin, too. sorry. [laughter] >> welcome. we are all at our ceiling. this is what we are learning about mezzanine. next item on the agenda is a report from our senior inspector >> thank you, vice president. this is inspector burke, and i have some complaints for you. [laughter] >> good evening, commissioners. first and foremost, i wanted to mention a complaint towards the top of the list. it is from november 7th. it is for the knockout. it -- the both of these clubs came through on one complaint, along with a third bar without a place of entertainment permit.

without a permit from us. just a description of their experience with these two places i will have one of our inspectors monitor this core door. it is a place that they go pretty frequently. it -- they make sure doors are closed and make sure, as these clubs empty out, the exit is organized and security is strong definitely something we will keep an eye out for. further down the list, zeitgeist had to watch like complaints come live bands on sunday evening. i talked to both of the complainants and they said that this is something that happens infrequently but this particular time, it was a little overboard with volume. we visited zeitgeist and we will be in touch with them to see what we can do about bringing them into compliance. same goes with church on 1401

howard, a little bit further down the list. that is a place of both inspectors and i visited. when we saw an event they are driving by about a month ago, we talked to the owner of the church and he's aware of the permitting process. we will follow up again to make sure that he knows that any time he has entertainment that he has to get a permit from us. alloy event space is the last on the complaint list. this is one of many difference co- working and private event café space is that we seen pop up recently. all of them more or less our advertising that they can be rented out for private events. something we will keep an eye on to make sure that when they do have events they get one time event permits with us or we can try to permit them for llp his

or places of entertainment. under the inspections on the first page, at 2516 mission, we are also seeing a rise in places with speakers on patios. which is good for the fixed f. pass. fix placed, amplified sound permit. howells is another one you can see on the back page with outdoor speakers, and we will be forwarding e-mails to kaitlin to bring these places into compliance. ongoing complaints, halcion received four complaints since our last hearing. if you will notice, for most of the complaints on the front page and on the back here, i have put the day of the week so we have a little bit more reference as to what is going on.

three out of the four for halcion were on weekday nights. sunday, two sundays, three on sundays, and then one on a saturday, and stanford june, we have multiple complainants complaining over multiple dates. it is something that director ryland and i have talked to the operators about. the operators are in touch with most of the complainants as well and we have been assured that any events outside of the times and days that they are permitted for will be -- they will be applying for one time event permits moving forward. i think there was confusing about -- confusion about what

they were allowed to do. this is happening very recently. we have had no issues with complaints for quite some time and we hope to have this wrapped up shortly. there has been an influx of complaints about them. that wraps it up. i'm happy to answer any questions you might have. >> i've only got one. so the church, when he got there , what kind of event was it was at a party? was it an adult -- a wedding? >> this complaints came through on thursday evening. we didn't have coverage in the field to inspect. the visit i had mentioned happened may be a month ago. i was out training with antonio and michael and we were driving around selma and saw the doors

open, and windows open, and crowds going in and out and we heard music. we spoke with security and we spoke with the operator to let him know about the permitting process and gave him cards and at the time, i think it was an open house. i think it was haycock here is the space. it is done. come check it out. >> a little background on st. joseph's, i know about this because brian sheehy, who we have seen before this commission several times, he owns and operates several pubs in the city and his consulting with them on this. they are going directly through the board of supervisors for a see you just for this property to allow for arts and entertainment to use. this will be a very community-based space and we will see them before the

commission once they are allowed to do so. in the interim, they know to come to us for one-time and so just a little background. >> the reason why i bring it up is because i remember back in the day, the ymca and things like that, they would host these parties. they would call them birthday parties and what not to. and sometimes violence happens. churches tend to follow if they have space and they do rent out their facilities. but i guess if brian is working with them, at least they have someone professional who will keep an eye on things and represent something more positive. i was just curious. >> it was a church, but it is not a church anymore. the building is right at the corner of kent and howard with the gold domes. >> so it is not active? >> it is not a safe establishment of any kind at

this point. it is just a building. >> i see it all the time. okay. >> i don't know if there's any religious institution affiliated with it. >> that makes it more of an -- okay. i guess they're trying to to get their permits. >> yet yep. >> thanks. >> i just found a couple typos. in their first complaint, you say i'll techno. >> i've sort of got into the habit of cutting and pasting from the source of the complaint just as it was submitted to 311. >> and halcion was on the second page. just their address. i believe it is 11th. it looks right on the other one. >> it sure is. thank you for that. >> aside from my editing, i have a question about people using

the hall. i feel like we've seen this pop up at least two or three other times in other meetings. i'm wondering, do you know -- it looks like its an anonymous complaint, but it's hard to say for sure if it's the same person >> based on the wording and the complaints that are coming to 311, i believe it is. they seem to be super sporadic. i don't think it's a trait or a door or a crowd, i think occasionally, great american music hall will have a band that is a little louder than most of their programming. and that is something that we went by and discussed with them this past weekend. i think the best course of action is to make sure that they understand what their limits are they keep good logs of how loud each band is each night. and maybe redo a sound test. it has probably been quite some time since they had a sound test

and may be there sound system has changed. that is the next step if we can't, if these complaints continue and we can't work with a complainant to be in touch with them, then we will go out and redo their sound test. >> were they aware of complaints were they surprised? i am wondering if anyone has gone to them directly. >> they were surprised. in my time here, i think the anytime people have complained it has been about great america. >> it sounds like they are cooperative and a hope they can figure out how to resolve that. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i had a question about ravens can you just let us know, was there an incident or was, was it follow-up from a complaint. >> there was a complaint about closing time at raven.

we got a complaint that the crowd was not under control and spilling out onto the streets. no incident and no violence or anything like that, but that the dispersal was a little messy. that was not the experience of our inspector when he went out. so another thing that we will keep an eye on, on the major thoroughfare in soma and we will make sure to keep an eye around closing time to make sure everything is safe. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. is there any public comment on the report of our senior inspector? seeing none, public comment is closed. the next item on the agenda is the report from our senior analyst. >> this mike is dead.

>> thank you. i am the senior analyst for the community and cultural events. good evening character sitting over here this time. it is fun. i just wanted to report back on some education and networking initiatives i have been working on that had not happened quite yet at the last hearing. we had our last s.f. outdoor events network mixer at del rio which was on november 7th. i had a wonderful experience organizing it with the owner of el rio as well as with jeremy from tour tech. this was a panel discussion about how producers can leverage technology to increase their revenue streams and increase customer loyalty. how can we talk about innovation

and tools for events of all sizes and all budgets? we had about 25 people attend. we had 49 rsvp. fifty% attrition. it is pretty decent. and then i was excited about the range of attendees. we had stern growth, we had noise pop, jury day, autumn festival, daybreak or, parks alliance, as well as commissioner perez and others and a few tech companies. thank you krystal for helping with the events. i thought the engagement was a very high. people really wanted to learn more about how they can increase their wi-fi bandwidth at events. and captured data. because every single phone has a unique paying to it and you can capture that ping and measure the number of people attending as well as where they are at the

event. the location. without knowing who the person is. you can still keep that data anonymized. the other piece of it was increasing food and beverage sales. it was another hot topic of discussion. so i will do a survey at the next mixer as well as my general assessments. i want to make sure i am still doing -- i am still doing the kinds of topics that are really interesting and important to our stakeholders. i haven't done a survey on that in over a year. it is high time to do that. we have confirmed the next event will be on january 28th at manny's and it will be a cannabis themed topic. the executive director has already reached out to the office of cannabis and the bay are interested in collaborating with the programming. we don't know what it looks like yet but we thought it was really great. the other educational initiative

i was doing as we did our first webinar. the first ever as a commission. it was last wednesday on the outdoor events guide. so the title of it was how to navigate the rules and regulations for outdoor special events in san francisco. the point was to position the producers so they were more informed with their business decisions and they can produce safer and more successful events i did general overview of the guide and estimator and how they can find the information they need to. we had 29 rsvp is and 15 participants in the webinar. i was able to see who participated online. we had people from pride, burning man, and noise pop, non plus ultra, the parks alliance, comfort and joy, fiesta on the hill, fisherman's wharf and others that were out-of-state.

and then i also have a video of the webinar that i will post too that will be there for people who couldn't attend or who want to review what was discussed. i felt like we had seven or eight questions. i think there is potential to really grow this idea of distance learning and online engagement. so i think there is room to grow with that. i also think i will know more once we get into winter and spring of 2019. that is when people gear up for the event season. i will be able to gauge if i should be doing another one of these closer to that time. i don't know if i should do one in real life, in person, versus online. it is a work in progress. and i think so far and so good. >> the webinar thing is big because you know how hard it is. we get these club people to come

out for functions. they just don't come. i think if you have it at their desk and they are taking the webinar from their desk you will get a lot more turn out to. i think that is something you should really continue working on. >> i'm trying to figure out the tools that exist that we have access to and if we want to do more of these. i am excited about the potential to do more of these. i think maggie is too. we haven't explored any further. >> did you get any comments after. >> i did. i got really nice comments and feedback from pride and burning man. they both were very enthusiastic about it. i got some general feedback like thank you for the information, i needed this.

not exciting, but very practical >> no one said this wasn't useful. >> may be when the season starts , you could do it once a month and have a webinar. it would be interesting. >> i'm open to discussion. i think there's a lot of potential to scale it up and do more of these across the different initiatives that we have. >> okay. good job. >> thank you. >> you said it is recorded, so if i wanted to -- when will it be posted? >> i'm trying to figure out how to edit some of the -- there are technical problems with the first minute of the webinar. i'm trying to make it a nice package. in the next week or two i will have that. >> it does not actually have to be a live question and answer type of session? i could just view it and get all the information too cost. >> yes. >> nice. i do think all the work you have been doing over the past year has been wonderful and to think

about when i started on the commission and how we would talk about a webinar, it was not in the cards. so it's been great that you have 29 people showing up to a community educational event. and people showing up to a webinar. it is fantastic. the more resources we can keep giving to the field -- i feel like you might need a title change, because you are doing a lot more than just rounding up cultural events stuff. there is a whole large educational component to its. >> people actually want to ask questions. like i want to know more about pop up indoor events. is there a tool for that? we do not have one and that is a potential area that i can speak to, because i've had to learn about it in the office. >> dylan has essentially become a concierge for anybody wanting to put on a one-time event. it doesn't always have to be outdoor.

definitely something i would like to look at. >> yeah. it is fantastic. thank you for all that work. keep it up. >> i do have a question. during the last outdoor event, did you stream it on facebook? >> we tried. we had technical problems. i am trying to figure out if the video capture worked, and if it did, a site -- we worked with a program partner. if it didn't work i would like get that up as well. but i think that that could be -- i think the facebook live tool is pretty profound in how accessible it is and how the reach is huge. so i can tell you more about it off-line if you would like to get into it. >> it would be -- it popped up in my timeline. i was watching everybody get ready for it. >> we had technical problems. >> i did not think i saw the

actual talked. >> i think it's totally within the realm of possibility and i would like to do it. >> in terms of bringing together the outdoor producers for some of these start up and tech partners, was there any kind of cost savings that was made available to the attendees? >> i do not hear the last part of the question. >> is there a cost savings is one -- someone wanted to use the app for their events? were they given some kind of code, i'm just curious. >> like a promotion for the attendees? >> some kind of notice. >> that would have been a really good idea. we didn't do any product sampling at the mixer. that wasn't even in my brain. i was more interested in trying to make sure that there was knowledge transfer. people really learned what they needed to learn. i left that idea. there were a lot of connections

made with -- across industry, and then with some tech executives too. as far as product sampling, that was not done. i would love to talk to maggie about that for future. >> yeah. even just a promo code. buber does it. [laughter] thank you. are there any additional comments? >> a quick question. the thing on january 28 on cannabis, is there a time -- i know it is that many's. >> usually these are at 5:30 pm or 6:00 so we work with the venue to figure that out. we want this to be an after work i. not too close to dinner when it starts. >> okay. we will stay tuned then. >> okay. >> is there any public comment on the report of the senior analyst, seeing none, public comment is closed.

the next item on our agenda is number 6. police department questions and comments. i don't see any representatives from sfpd. they are not here to speak, and there will be no public comment on this sight and. okay. next item is item number 7. hearing and possible action regarding applications for permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. the executive director, please introduce the permit applications of the evening. >> thank you, vice president. all right. to kick off this evening's permits agenda, i want to let you all know that this will be my last time presenting on permit applications bar any time a deputy director is on vacation i'm very excited about that. so i wanted to give that plug. tonight, on the agenda, the first item is a limited

performance permit application. this is for woods station. and this is a venue that potentially, a few of them in the city, there is one in my neighbourhood as well. it is serving beer and wine like beverages. it is a very small venue. the owner and manager, who is here tonight, pablo, is wanting to have small groups of acoustic musicians performing at the venue to add entertainment to their existing operations. to tell you a little bit more about their application is pablo i just wanted to let you all know, i did not receive any letters of protest on this item and the police department approved it with no conditions. >> thank you. good evening, commissioners. can you hear me okay? >> my name is pablo. i am the bar manager. unfortunately jim what's could not attend. he has already gone for the

holidays. while he did fill out the application, i was the one who did the legwork. i did the outreach. i will be the one representing. like she said, we are one of five locations located in the bay area and this one is located in russian hill on pulp and green. is by far the smallest of all the locations standing at 350 square feet. why i mentioned the size, in a -- i am applying for a permit -- performance permit and the signs will have a lot to do with what music we play and how we plan to play it. if you were to ask anybody to describe the bar, one word that comes up is cute and cozy. it never really gets rowdy. it is a cabinet lodge theme in a very tight space. is very much a relaxed atmosphere. we just like to add music. we really think that having live performances will add to the many rich and enjoyable experiences of russian hill. at the beginning of the month, i spent -- sent out about 75

letters notifying that we applied. any windows or storefronts within earshot or eyesight of the bar. i personally reached out to many residents as well as businesses, at for the most part, we received very positive responses we have copies of letters of support from some patrons as well as a business, blue barn, which is one of the neighboring businesses. we have met with some people with some concern. i will tell you what i told them we are a tiny bar and my motto has been, it always has been, less is more. if we do get the permit, we would like to do 1-2 our sets. mostly soloists and maybe duos. folk or jazz types of musicians. minimal amplification, if at all i personally would like to have artist to perform acoustically. we don't want any collector of

equipment or wires that they have to step over it nor do we want any music to be so loud so customers can't keep a conversation. however, we do know that some artists would prefer to perform and if that is the case, we plan to give notice to our direct neighbours in advance and we hope to keep it at a reasonable volume. with that said, we plan to have someone from the commission of entertainment to conduct a sound test. i am also currently doing research on those magnetic window frames that you can attach acrylic glass so that we don't -- we did receive one complaint across the street, at the apartments above cold hardware. i don't want to bother them. i've given the neighbour is my personal phone number, my work e-mail, i made it very clear i want to keep an open dialogue with them. we don't want to disturb. we want to accommodate. i would also like to add i did meet with officer walsh.