protect the identity of whistleblowers and keeps their reports confidential. this legislation was originally introduced by then supervisor, london breed, in a different form which triggered a meet and confer for several months. this version that i have before you is very clean and very elegant. it reflects a delicate compromise between the department of human resources, the ethics commission and of course, the talented controller 's office. i would like to request a single amendment on page 12, line three i want to change the effective date from january 1st, 2019, to january 1st, 2020. i would like to thank susan gard from the department of human resources, pat forward from the ethics commission, the city controller and his entire team, everyone who participated in the meet and confer legislation.

i also want to acknowledge mayor breed for advancing this issue and the advocates, particularly patrick. is he here? he may not be here. i know he is watching. this is for you, patrick. and also want to acknowledge the hard work of our legislative aides on this issue and collectively, this is putting our city and the right direction i hope this recognizes susan from d.h.r. she will be speaking. no? she has nothing else to say? thank you. this is pretty humble and simple the amendment his changing of the date from january 1st, 2019, to january 1st, 2020. thank you for your consideration is there a vice chair on this committee? >> there is but i think they disappeared. >> okay.

>> are you done? >> yes. >> thank you very much. any questions? any public comments on this item >> good afternoon, supervisors. i am a whistleblower. several years ago, i had to sue the department of public health for retaliation. the outcome was a 750,000-dollar settlement. if you include city attorney fees, the cost to taxpayers was well over $1 million. i didn't want to sue the city, but i had no choice. the ethics committee denied my claim, and it turns out, the ethics -- ethics has never substantiated a whistleblower retaliation claim.

zero and 25 years. in other words, there is no mechanism for redress within city government. on the other hand, there are many mechanisms for smearing and crippling whistleblowers. if you are serious about protecting whistleblowers, please find out why ethics hasn't validated a single retaliation claim since its founding. thank you, very much. >> any other public comments? seeing him, public comment is closed. >> thank you very much. i would like one of the committee persons to make a motion to accept or to -- >> can someone come repeat the

whole presentation? i'm just kidding. [laughter] >> i will make a motion to accept the items as proposed by supervisor cohen cohen. can we do that? >> as amended. i'm sorry, dr gartner? >> yes. she propose an amendment to the date. >> that's what i said. i make a motion to accept the amendment that supervisor cohen has proposed. can we do that without objection thank you, supervisor stephanie. and now, can we send this item to the full board as amended with positive recommendation? great. please call item number 8. >> item eight is motion approving or rejecting the appointment of jeffrey joshua panzer to the residential rent stabilization and arbitration board for a term ending september 1st, 2022. >> great. unless there is any initial comments by the committee, if you can please address the committee and keep your comments

to three minutes or less. >> absolutely. thank you for your time. i am a san francisco native and a rental property owner and manager in san francisco. i have lived here my whole life and being in the business for 15 years. i look forward to the opportunity to serve the community as a member -- as a commissioner on the rent board. my business includes a lot of work bringing petitions in front of the rent board and i'm proud of the work that i do and i look forward to helping the community by helping to foster constructive solutions to difficult problems at the rent board and hearing the cases on the merits. i see this opportunity as continuing a commitment to community service that i have had for my whole career and even going back before i went into the working world. i currently serve as the vice president of the board for

building together san francisco, helping to keep a low income seniors and disabled people in their homes and to renovate community facilities for people of all parts of the community. i also do a lot of work as a board member for the san francisco apartment association. i teach property management courses as part of that work. finally, i am also the president of the professional property management association, helping other property managers doing property management work to stay professional and educate themselves and to network and to learn the best practices for managing rental properties in san francisco. i look forward to the opportunity to answer any questions you may have. thank you very much. >> great. supervisor he? >> thank you. i was wondering, can you say again what the nature is of your

business? >> i own a rental management company. i have 600 units in san francisco and some in the east bay and we have approximately 125 clients. our building size that we manages about five units. >> and you are probably very familiar with how petitions work >> absolutely. >> okay. how do you assess and document the value of the work you are doing as necessary and critical to the life and safety of the tenants? >> it depends on the petition, but it's typically the work is documented by getting multiple bids for the work so you can have a comparison of the work work that is being done in making sure that the contractors who are bidding on it are giving you their assessments are typically the lower builder darth vader is accepted and all the work is documented by getting create copies of invoices and copies of cancelled

checks to make sure the money that is spent is according to the original contract and work is not being inflated unnecessarily. >> that is good to know. is very typical limit of time that tenants have two endure disruptive construction. >> the amount of time that a construction project takes is typically regulated by how long the permit lasts and the owner can go ahead and get additional permits if it is necessary to extend the time on the original permit. >> again, to the nature of the past, can you -- have you been keeping up with the operations and maintenance of the reforms that were passed here at the board of supervisors class. >> absolutely. >> do you understand why the legislation was passed? >> absolutely. >> okay. based on the trends of what's happening in the larger

rent-controlled buildings in the city, i assumed you -- some of the clients that you have now, are they, do they own rent-controlled buildings because. >> most of them, yes. >> okay. so, i'm just wondering, how do you assist your clients with tasks? since you have already dealt in these types of cases, how do you do that in terms of assisting your clients? >> i have two different groups of clients. i've clients who manage their own buildings or who have other property managers and i have my own clients. for my own clients whose building i manage, i have also managed the construction work. i know the project firsthand because i've supervised it and i have coordinated the work with the contractors and the tenants

and all of that work. for my outside clients, i typically start by reviewing all of their paperwork and i actually prepare reports for my clients to let them know the calculation of what kind of a rent increase they could be certified for, and i tell them how good the paperwork is and give them an assessment of whether they need to give me more paperwork before i am capable of bringing a capital improvement petition before the rent board. i do a lot of work on the front and to make sure the petitions that i submit will be acceptable to the staff at the rent board and will not need to be appealed >> in regards to your clients, i assume you have lots of clients. >> probably around 125. >> have any of them been in front of the rent board? >> i actually took a look at the

minutes of the rent board commission meetings over the course of the year, i recognized one case in a building that i actually wasn't managing at the time that the case came before the board. a building he took over in july and the tenant was in front of the rent board on an appeal in april and may. >> okay. i'm just assuming you probably read this stuff. have you read the california government code requirements? they are similar -- there are similar restrictions that would prohibit you from both operating a business that maximizes passed benefits for clients before the rent board and serving on the same sort of body. >> i was not aware of that. >> let me read it to you. at least the relevant part. the officer or employee shall

not perform any work, service or consult for compensation outside of his or her local agency employment. any part of the efforts will be subject to approval by any other officer, employee, board or commission of his or her employed body. it goes on and there is a different part. and employees outside employment activity or enterprise may be prohibited if it involves the performance of an act other than his or her capacity as a local agency officer or employee, which may later be subject to directly or indirectly to the control inspection review, audit and enforcement of any other officer or employee or agency by which he or she is employed. it seems what is implied is

because of the nature of the work, there may be conflict there. >> i have not reviewed that part of the code. i am not an attorney. i would need to review that more closely and come to my own decision. i was not aware that could be a possible impediment. >> deputy city attorney? i don't know if you were following, i am questioning whether the nature of his business, with there be a conflict of interest in serving on the rent board,. >> deputy city attorney john given her. i have not spoken directly with the appointee. i don't know anymore about his business other than what i have

read in the pocket and the discussion today. i can't stay, with any certainty , i am not sure what code section you are reading, supervisor yee, it sounded related to the statement of incompatible activities that the ethics commission has adopted. every city department, board and commission has a statement of incompatible activities which is basically a conflict of interest law that applies only to that department or commissioner board the rent board has a statement of incompatible activities and among other things, is generally described outside activities that are incompatible with service on the rent board. i have not analysed this

particular situation. i don't know enough about the facts. i'm happy to do that before -- following this meeting. >> what i am citing as a california government code, 1126 >> right. section 1126 is not a self-executing conflict law. but several years after 1126 was adopted at the state level, the voters adopted a local law that required the ethics commission to create the statements of incompatible activity. there are about 35 of them right now in the city. they are all available on the ethics commission trash out website. there is a statement for the city attorney's office in a statement of activity for the board of supervisors in a statement for the rent board. generally, the statement of income possible incompatible

activities as they could not engage with an activity that impair your ability to do your official job. by way of example, the city attorney attorney's statement of activity is prohibited -- prohibiting me as one of the attorneys to advise the department of elections from contributing to any local candidate or office in san francisco. the rent board's statement of incompatible activity has a general statement about materially impairing an outside activity that impairs your duties. it also has a couple of specific restrictions. no officer or employee, which would include a member of the rent board may receive a fee or any other enumeration for information or advice about pending rent board cases.

and no officer or employee may receive a fee or other renumeration for scheduling a hearing or decision in a rent board case or appeal. i do not know enough about this particular business, but happy to discuss after this hearing and ultimately the decision about whether an activity violates a statement of incompatible activities is in the discretion of the ethics commission. >> i appreciate your explanation >> i'm a little concerned. it seems that in terms of the knowledge base, as a person that would go to the rent board, you have the knowledge. i'm not questioning that. what i am questioning is is a -- duchess or a grey area where there is a conflict or not?

i would like to get more clarification at some point. >> once again. i am not an attorney. i can't really interpret the code, but from his comments, i don't see what i'm doing is using my expertise to bring a case and file a petition at the rent board on behalf of a client is being much different than what an attorney would do in representing a client in helping them through a mediation or to even file a petition, which some attorneys do as part of their work for their clients, and two of our four land florid commissioners are attorneys and i know that several tenant commissioners are also attorneys and it seems that from my experience and experienced -- attending the recent meetings and one this year, the static practice is they recuse themselves from cases in which they are involved. and the nonvoting will step in to participate in those cases and i would think that would be very much the same situation for

me, where if a crate -- case that i have brought for a client before the rent board, if it were on appeal and being hurt by the commission, i would then recuse myself from that decision and let the other commissioners debate it. >> we will come back to questions after we open it up for public comment. thank you. if you just wait you will come back you can come back up. >> good evening. i am the executive director of rebuilding together san francisco. we do home repairs for income qualified families, seniors and people with disabilities so they

can continue to live safely in their own homes. jj has been on our board for just about six years now. he has volunteered with us for a number of years prior to that and i am here to support his nomination to the rent stabilization board. i think in my time working with jj, he has presented himself as someone who really cares about keeping san franciscans in their homes and really looking at ways that we can sustain and provide stable housing for both renters and homeowners in san francisco through the home repair program. he has been a really great champion for our work over the last six years and i think that he is really committed to san francisco and keeping people in their homes in san francisco. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening. i am a san francisco landlord. i set as a rent board commissioner for 17 years.

i've had a good bit of experience and how the process works. i am here to support the nomination and the appointment of jj as the rent board commissioner. you will be a fantastic commissioner. he is experienced, he is committed, he is involved in a number of community activities and supervisor yee's questions, if you checked with the rent board staff, you will find that over the years, a well-established practice for the dealing with conflicts of interest for all the commissioners of the board. you may be interested to know that all four of the tenant commissioners at the san francisco rent board are attorneys. many of them practice in front of the rent board or practice representing tenants san francisco and there is an established practice that if there is a case at the rent board that comes up in appeal, that they or their firm was involved in, they recuse themselves.

as i am sure you will agree, what is gravy for the goose is gravy for the gander. if this policy applies to tenant commissioners, it should also equally apply to landlord commissioners and it does. i don't see that as an impediment to mr panzer being nominated to this position. he is willing, ready and able to serve and i would urge you to pass out his nomination. thank you. >> good evening, supervisors. i am with this san francisco apartment association. i'm here to speak in support of panzer as a landlord commissioner on the rent board. i have known jj for probably 15 years and i think he will do an outstanding job representing small and large landlords in the city of san francisco. i also agree with mr murphy's statement about the rent board and how it functions. being front of that body for over 25 years, i find that

commissioners from time to time, have to recuse themselves as items that they are related to before the body and they operate in an ethical and fair manner from any judge everything that i can see. thank you for your time and please pass his commission appointment to the full board. >> good late afternoon, supervisors. my name is rosa maria. i am the program manager for the tenderloin health and clinics enforcement program. i have been there for about the last five years. i am also a tenderloin resident for heart the last five years and this is my last week in the tenderloin. over the last five years, our program has assisted in council tenants and understanding various kinds of rent increases due to rent passes that

landlords file. we also have seen the negative and burdensome impacts of these increases on tenants and therefore i am here today as tenants and enclosing my starch including myself. we have a few concerns on the appointment. this is not due to him being a landlord are running a property management company. is rather to the proponent of his business that prepares and assist landlords with filing a variety of rent increase pass-through his. he has a direct financial stake in decisions that he was tasked to adjudicate over. we believe this is a huge concern to consider when evaluating his appointment, and i know we have talked about him recusing himself. these are concerns that i would like to bring forward to today.

this is all due respect to mr panzer. thank you. >> thank you. last speaker. >> good evening. i am from the affordable housing alliance. representing tenants for all of these years, we believe that one of the most important jobs for us is to protect the integrity of the rent board, along with that,, we found ourselves working with landlord loops on aspects of that from time to time. we thought the rent board should not be elected. we thought it a compass endorsed the composition shouldn't change i don't have a problem with mr panzer. i'm not personally familiar with him, but i do think that someone needs to look out for him and make sure that the incompatible activities law is not something that he is being set up to be in violation of.

the wording in the state law, at first blush would seem to appear , on the local policies are just implementing that. this is not a conflict of interest analysis. it is a different kind of analysis. but the heart of the matter is, if you are engaged in a business providing a service with a direct result of that service are reviewed by the commission which you are on, that is viewed as an incompatible activity and i am treading gingerly here because historically, the landlord his advocacy groups have selected their candidates and they have selected there is. i think that is helping the integrity of the board. i would just caution everyone that they should do the analysis , and it sounds like mr panzer was not alerted to this by the mayor's office, i think he may well have to give up that business to be on this. i would recommend that it be

looked at sooner rather than later. you probably should have been looked at earlier. it is awkward to bring it up in this setting. but i think the nature of his business and the exact wording of the state law and the rent board, and is not just the supervision -- >> hello. good evening. i am a staff member of the san francisco apartment association. i want to speak in favour of the appointment of jj. i also manage the same program that rosa maria mentioned. the code enforcement outreach program. i have done so for about eight years. we try to make sure maintenance requests are made in rental buildings. i have to say i have never had a

case in a real management company building. i think that speaks to the way in which they manage their properties. the other thing i wanted to mention -- >> will try to make sure maintenance requests are made, in rental buildings. i have to say i have never had a case and a real management company building. i think that speaks to the way in which they manage their properties. the other thing i wanted to mention, the rent board commission does not deny or approve pass-through his. that is not what the rent board does. please consider that further.

>> good evening. i'm here with the coalition for better housing. we certainly support the nomination and the approval of mr panzer to the rent board. one thing that is confusing me is as was discussed before, mr panzer's job is to help property owners obey the law. his job is to help them to do what's right and he does this very well. it is not for them to get away with something. this to make sure that they do cross their teas and stop their eyes. he is very good at that. you can tell by how the people have spoken about his nature, that he is somebody who cares about san franciscans and that he cares about the city and cares about this process. so we cannot enter into this

with an idea that somehow jj won't be cognizant of being recused in those instances where he would be. and i would point out again that the rent board commissioners, many of whom, on both sides of the aisle are attorneys, do the exact same thing. that they help their tenants or their clients to meet the latter of the law or to make sure they get what they need at the rent board. i really don't understand this conflict as it's been discussed. because it seems to me that if that was the case, there would be no rent board. by reason, the rent board has two tenants, two landlord his representatives, and the neutral , which is the person who listens to both sides after the argument and often decides that.

i think we need to be careful about not making jj a lightning rod for people's discussions on pass-through his. that is not his job. his job is to help landlords obey the law. thank you.

>> the question we should explore is the details of his business. >> supervisor yee, do you have an additional question? >> my line is question is nothing personal. i hope you understand that. and just so that -- i'm look at

these documents and i'm not -- a lot of it is i'm an attorney. this raises some questions for me. i read from the california one. this is from the statement of incompatible activities from the residential rent board itself. i don't know if you are familiar with that one. there's a paragraph there that triggers my concern. no employee may engage in outside activity regardless of whether the activity is compensated, that is subject to the control inspection and review audit or enforcement of the department. in addition to any activity permitted pursuant to the sub section c, nothing in this subsection prohibits the following activities. appearing before ones' own department or commission or on

behalf of ones self. filing or otherwise pursuing claims against the city on his own behalf. running for city elective office or making a public records disclosure pursuing of the sunshine ordinance. unless noted in this section or b, an advance written determination sunday sub sections c concludes that such activities are not incompatible and the following activities are expressly prohibited by this section and i could keep on reading. this goes on like that. i think you seem to understand the laws. i don't wanted to hold up this process but statement, at the i want to have a discussion or have the city attorney look at this issue before this item comes to the full board. i would like to make a motion to send this out of committee with

no recommendation to the full board. >> before that, supervisor stephanie had a comment. you want to move on that motion? she had a comment. is that ok? >> rescind the motion. >> amend it to either -- the motion would need to be amended to either a paragraph or reject. >> it's approve or reject? >> yes. >> before we move on that can supervisor stefani. i mean i'm happy to look into this further but number one, i failed to see the conflict. i find his comments pervasive in terms of not deciding on these issues. if you were to have a case in which you were involved, and you might be able to then enrich

yourself, based on a decision you might make, then my understanding would be you would absolutely probably recuse yourself and i just don't seem -- i don't know where the conflict is. it just seems to me if there were a client of his that were to come before the rent board, it would be obvious. because he engages in this type of activity doesn't necessarily mean, as a landlord, he would actually be someone that could not sit on the rent board. i'm happy to look into it further. for me, at the outset, i don't see the problem. >> thank you for those comments. i guess what i'm asking is just to send it out of committee with no recommendation. people can get -- i'd like to get more information. it doesn't mean i won't support it at the end of the day. >> i think that's fair and these are valid questions. i appreciate you bringing them up. i think we certainly always want

to avoid any conflict of interest. what i heard from deputy city attorney is they're going to investigate and if it were to come out, this would be a direct conflict, then essentially we would have to -- if it's at the board, we would then -- what would happen at the board? we would reject or withdraw the nomination? >> ultimately -- the board's only option, the only action the board can formally take to reject would be a motion to reject the nomination requiring eight votes. anything else and mr. panzer's appointment stands. after meeting with mr. panze r and from the mayor's office, i can report back to the board on december 4th or 11th, whatever

day this item comes back to the board. >> it needs two readings? >> just one. the law that we're discussing and that supervisor yee is mentioning, the statement of incompatible activities, doesn't prohibit mr. panzer from serving on the rent board. the question is, whether, if he serves on the rent board and also engages in a business, that may be incompatible with his rent board duties, could he potentially face fines from the ethic's commission? and so that is -- considering whether he may have that type of conflict, we will discuss it with mr. panzer and the board can make a choice. >> i guess what i'm saying -- you are going to let us know one way or the other. no? >> i will let you know what our

analysis is. >> that's what i mean, your analysis, you will give an a recommendation, right? so in that recommendation it says we believe he will be ok, then we would proceed. if you say we believe there's a strong potential for fines coming from the ethic's commission based on inco inpat , he could withdraw his application. >> all of those are options. >> ok. who would have thought the last item of the day would be so complicated. so you are fine with sending it forward and we wait on the recommendations from the city attorney? that's ok? ok. so i think the options that we have in front of us is either approve or reject. we make a motion to -- >> i did. >> make a motion to approve and send it to the full board. >> i believe the motion would be

to amend the motion to delete the word reject from the motion and refer it to the board of supervisors with recommendation or without? >> without. >> refer that motion to the board without recommendations. >> with a motion is to forward it to the full board without recommendation. >> as we often do. can we do that? >> yes. we'll amend it to remove the word rejecting and we'll ford i- forward it to the full board without recommendations pending the city's attorney advice. >> without objection. thank you mr. panzer. anymore items before us today? >> one moment. that completes the agenda for

today.

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are we just reoping the playground? i'm not sure which. thanks to the 2008 parks funds, where you're standing is the home and all of you san francisco voters gave a $20 million investment in this neighborhood. i was born and raised four blocks from where we stand today. i came and played in this park, on the equipment, in the you know what i mean you know jim gym and structure today. >> to make this a park that everybody can enjoy, a diversity that would show the city that this is what san francisco is all about. >> what we got here is 3,000 new square feet of places for

people to be healthy and be active and the community to gather. >> if you see /kaelly's mural in the building, there cannot be an imagery that's more related to this place. what people told us about what the importance of the windmills and the green houses and the flowers that used to be grown here and the wind, let's not forget the wind. >> we have to continue to invest in our city's infrastructure and creating new. this is a recreation center for the 21st century and for the 21st century communities. >> we finally made something after somebody that everybody needs and this is the park.

>> hi everybody, we down here at the /ep is a center which is our pop up space down here in san francisco where we operate a store front to educate the policy from the home owner who has center which is our pop up space down here in san francisco where we operate a store front to educate the policy from the home owner who has never done anything in the house to the most advanced structure engineers we have working around here. we we're going to here from kelly to talk a little bit about san francisco. how are you doing kelly? >> very well, thank you for having us here. >> in front of us, we have a

typical soft story building. when i see this, i think this is some of the most beautiful architecture our city has. a lot of people don't know these are problematic buildings. why don't you tell us about some of the risks he we have in these buildings? >> soft stories are vulnerable in past earthquakes and the northridge earthquake to this type of building and character of building. when we talk about the soft story, what we're talking about is generally a ground story that has less wall or other /pwraeugs to resist the lateral forces that might be imposed by the earthquake. so we're looking for something that is particularly weak or soft in this ground story. now, this is a wonderful example of what some of the residential buildings that are soft stories in san francisco look like. and the 1 thing that i would point out here is that the upper force of this building have residential

units. they have not only a fair amount of wall around the exterior of the building but they also have very extensive walls in the interior and bathrooms and bedrooms and corridors and everything that has a certificate amount of brazing yea it's significantly less country /srabl in those stories. now very often, we get even a garage or storage or sometimes commercial occupancy in this ground story. that very often not only has a whole lot less perimeter wall but it often has little or no wall on the interior. that wall is the earthquake bracing and so he see very significant bracing in the top floor and very little on the bottom. when the earthquake comes and hits, it tries to push that ground floor over and there's very little that keeps it from moving and degrading and eventually

/paoerblly keeping it from a collapse occurring. so we know they're vulnerable because of this ground story collapsing >> is this only a problem we see in sentence france? san francisco? >> no, this is certainly a national problem. more acute in western but more up to california, washington, moving out into other states. this kind of building exist and this kind of building is vulnerable. >> when you're involved with the community safety, this is a different way of thinking about these types of things. we had a community group of over 100 people involved and upper 1 of them. tell us about * how that conversation went. why did we decide as a city or a community to start fixing these types of buildings? >> there were a lot of aspects that were considered well beyond just the engineering answer that these are vulnerable. and that effort

brought in a lot of people from different aspects of the community that looked at the importance of these buildings to the housing stock and the possible ramifications of losing this /houbgs in the case of an earthquake. the financial implications, the historic preserve vacation s implication as you mentioned, these are very handsome looking buildings that are importance to the tourist city ask which make san francisco something that people are interested from outside in coming and visiting. >> it's such animation story when you think about the 10 years that the community spent talking about this /seurb but we actually did something about it. now we have an order unanimouses put in place to protect 100,000 residents in san francisco and retrospective in 2020. so on behalf of residents and employees in san francisco, we want to say thank you for the work you've done in pushing

this forward and making people more aware of these issues. >> and it was a fantastic community effort. >> so in an earth quake, what happens in these kinds of buildings? >> what happens when an earthquake comes along is it moves the ground both horizontally and vertically. it's mostly the horizontal that we're worried about. it starts moving the building back and forth and pushing on it. when you see i'm pushing on it, the upper stiff of the wall stay straight up but the lower floors, they actually collapse just like i did there. >> luckily, we can put this building right back up where it came from so it's a lot easier. now kelly, obviously these aren't real frame walls here but when you talk about buildings, what makes the property for stiff? >> the easiest and most

cost-effective type of bracing you can put in is either put in a brand new wall or to potentially go in and strengthen a wall that's already there where you don't need to have an opening is where you maybe have a garage door or access to commercial space, you might go to a steel frame or other types of bracing systems that provides the strength and stiff if necessary but at the same time, allows continued use of that area. but some combination of walls or frames or other tools that are in the tool kit that can bring the building up to the strength that's required in order to remove the vulnerability from the building so that when ground shaking comes, it in fact is a whole lot more resistant and less vulnerable. ideally, this story down here would be made as strong and stiff as the floors above.

>> if i'm a property owner, what is the first thing i should do? >> the first thing you should do is find professional that can come in and help you evaluate your building in order to, 1, figure out that indeed it does need to be retro fitted and 2, give you some idea of what that retro fit might look like. and third, evaluation and design to help you determine the retro fit requirement. >> well kelly, i can't thank you enough for being here today. thank you so much for your wealth of information on how we can take care of our soft story problem in san francisco. and you the viewer, if you have any questions, please feel free to visit our website

>> i view san francisco almost as a sibling or a parent or something. i just love the city. i love everything about it. when i'm away from it, i miss it like a person. i grew up in san francisco kind of all over the city. we had pretty much the run of the city 'cause we lived pretty close to polk street, and so we would -- in the summer, we'd all all the way down to aquatic park, and we'd walk down to the library, to the kids' center. in those days, the city was safe and nobody worried about us running around. i went to high school in spring valley. it was over the hill from chinatown. it was kind of fun to experience being in a minority, which most white people don't get to experience that often. everything was just really within walking distance, so it make it really fun.

when i was a teenager, we didn't have a lot of money. we could go to sam wong's and get super -- soup for $1. my parents came here and were drawn to the beatnik culture. they wanted to meet all of the writers who were so famous at the time, but my mother had some serious mental illness issues, and i don't think my father were really aware of that, and those didn't really become evident until i was about five, i guess, and my marriage blew up, and my mother took me all over the world. most of those ad ventures ended up bad because they would end up hospitalized. when i was about six i guess, my mother took me to japan, and that was a very interesting trip where we went over with a boyfriend of hers, and he was working there.

i remember the open sewers and gigantic frogs that lived in the sewers and things like that. mostly i remember the smells very intensely, but i loved japan. it was wonderful. toward the end. my mother had a breakdown, and that was the cycle. we would go somewhere, stay for a certain amount of months, a year, period of time, and she would inevitably have a breakdown. we always came back to san francisco which i guess came me some sense of continuity and that was what kept me sort of stable. my mother hated to fly, so she would always make us take ships places, so on this particular occasion when i was, i think, 12, we were on this ship getting ready to go through the panama canal, and she had a breakdown on the ship. so she was put in the brig, and i was left to wander the ship until we got to fluorfluora few days later, where we had a

distant -- florida a few days later, where we had a distant cousin who came and got us. i think i always knew i was a writer on some level, but i kind of stopped when i became a cop. i used to write short stories, and i thought someday i'm going to write a book about all these ad ventures that my mother took me on. when i became a cop, i found i turned off parts of my brain. i found i had to learn to conform, which was not anything i'd really been taught but felt very safe to me. i think i was drawn to police work because after coming from such chaos, it seemed like a very organized, but stable environment. and even though things happening, it felt like putting order on chaos and that felt very safe to me.

my girlfriend and i were sitting in ve 150d uvio's bar, and i looked out the window and i saw a police car, and there was a woman who looked like me driving the car. for a moment, i thought i was me. and i turned to my friend and i said, i think i'm supposed to do this. i saw myself driving in this car. as a child, we never thought of police work as a possibility for women because there weren't any until the mid70's, so i had only even begun to notice there were women doing this job. when i saw here, it seemed like this is what i was meant to do. one of my bosses as ben johnson's had been a cop, and he -- i said, i have this weird idea that i should do this. he said, i think you'd be good. the department was forced to hire us, and because of all of the posters, and the big

recruitment drive, we were under the impression that they were glad to have us, but in reality, most of the men did not want the women there. so the big challenge was constantly feeling like you had to prove yourself and feeling like if you did not do a good job, you were letting down your entire gender. finally took an inspector's test and passed that and then went down to the hall of justice and worked different investigations for the rest of my career, which was fun. i just felt sort of buried alive in all of these cases, these unsolved mysteries that there were just so many of them, and some of them, i didn't know if we'd ever be able to solve, so my boss was able to get me out of the unit. he transferred me out, and a couple of weeks later, i found out i had breast cancer. my intuition that the job was killing me. i ended up leaving, and by then, i had 28 years or the years in, i think.

the writing thing really became intense when i was going through treatment for cancer because i felt like there were so many parts that my kids didn't know. they didn't know my story, they didn't know why i had a relationship with my mother, why we had no family to speak of. it just poured out of me. i gave it to a friend who is an editor, and she said i think this would be publishable and i think people would be interested in this. i am so lucky to live here. i am so grateful to my parents who decided to move to the city. i am so grateful they did. that it never

gay/lesbi. >> thank you. good afternoon, everyone. this meeting will come to order. welcome to the november 28, 2018 meeting of the rule committee. my name is ahsha safai, and i am the chair of the committee. today our clerk is victor young. i'd also like