outreach, and then presented a revised proposal to the committee at the end of november, november 27. we've also been briefing the tida board in parallel. some of the things we heard were concerns about affordability. some businesses concerned about the ability to attract and retain workers, especially low-wage workers, is very challenging, and so the expense of the commute is something that's a concern. also the ability to get things like goods delivered. treasure island is perceived as or is actually difficult to access relative to mainland san francisco. and so we heard concerns about getting -- having another burden, being able to access the island. for residents, we heard concerns about the affordability, lack of affordability of living in san francisco and the ability to continue to be in san francisco,

expenses associated with housing and transportation. we also heard concerns that today normal san francisco neighborhood destinations aren't yet available on treasure island. there is not a san francisco unified school on treasure island, for instance, but it's not there today. many of the common land uses that people can walk to, folks don't have that on treasure island. lastly, i would say concern about whether other parties are doing their fair share to support treasure island development, developer doing their fair share? is the city doing their fair share? so we want to address that also in our update to you. we presented to the committee two options to respond to these concerns that we heard. and these were revised from the proposals in october. what we had done is -- we did

expand the value of the affordability provision. and also seeking to make it as flexible as possible to be able to accommodate the needs that we heard. so we offered two things. and the committee recommended that both should be done. the first is a stipend, and this is for current households, to address additional expenses. and it would be $300 per month for each current household of 2018 to use to offset any expenses including transportation expenses. we also propose a similar stipend approach for businesses, though the amount for that needs to be determined through more work, understanding business needs. the second option -- again, the committee recommended that both should go forward, is a zero

toll arrest tolerate for the first five years during the middays. that means that it would only be in place during peaks. one thing i want to highlight is the provision program that we recommended whereby folks could earn toll credits by taking transit. one idea was to reduce the number of trips needed. this chart shows the tolerate schedule based on the committee's recommendation. the zero toll level during the midday is reflected here. the original concept, where there is no toll conceived of during the overnight periods,

during the evening peak, is still here. this also illustrates something we wanted to keep, which is the discount for drivers coming from the east bay to treasure island. they're crossing bay bridge toll plaza. we propose a 50% discount. this illustrates the vision or the stipend to be flexible to work as cash to offset whatever expenses are most important to the given household or business. it could be used to further compensate employees for their costs or deliveries or customers. the value of this -- on the residential side, proposing

$300. it's $10 a day. it's multiple on-off trips it would afford. for the residents of below-market rate house, the money would go further because the transit cost is 50% less. so households could either by -- could buy both transit passes and have funds for round-trip tolls with the stipend. there is an expanded affordability proposal and seeking funding to help cover that, about $4 million a year in the first years when it could be in place. before i hand this over, co-presenting with eric cordova, deputy director for capital

projects, i wanted to mention the transit pass piece. it's called for the demand management and transit incentives. the concept we proposed is something that would be available 50% off for the folks in below market rate housing. committee asked us to look into a free ferry for low-income use provision to this, which is something that is part of the recommendation that you have before you today. this pass would be available to employees. we would work with employers. it would be like an employer program to offer the passes with discounts. so the pass would be unlimited trips on the a.c. system, muni system, and the ferry serving treasure island. folks in market would receive

this from homeowner dues. that is not the case for fellow-market units. so we want to offer the pass 50% off for them and look into the community's recommendations for free ferry for use and also the accumulator concept, which would eliminate the need to pay up front for this pass, but rather be able to pay as you go without -- but still getting that pass discount. at this point, i will turn the presentation over to eric cordova, deputy director, capital projects. >> great. thank you, rachel. the screen in front of you talked about the program funding contributions to date. think it's important for us to highlight the key specifics interest. we've been successful in obtaining $200 million of federal and state money to improve the access to and from

the bay bridge, which is the only access to the island. the re-establishment of the i-80 eastbound offramp to south gate road on the east side of the island is set to start construction next year and be completed by 2020. and then the other improvements that the transportation authority and timma is leading here is the west side bridges people cannot forget that those bridges are seismically deficient and need to be replaced. that's our mission there. it will start in the summer of 2020 and be complete by 2021, which matches the occupancy date for some of the new development. there are various improvements

that the developer are moving together with, in particular, the construction of the ferry terminal. transit improvements, on-island shuttle we're working with also to lead, as well as open space and community improvements. chair kim, you asked very good questions in terms of revenue at our committee meeting. hopefully this answers those questions, about what we need the toll money for, which is to establish the a.c. transit service and an on-island shuttle. we have the affordability program now that with the recommendations with the committee made a couple of weeks ago, we've included in our cost analysis and revenue. there as shortfall that we'll

have to go ahead and tackle with about a $20 million shortfall over the first five years. so our intent is to pursue any and other outside funding that we can. and i will show you a slide to indicate that. this gives you a lock at '26/'27 time frame. in our opinion, that's the critical mass of development that we need here. this those the costs and the revenue streams. you asked us to dig deeper with funding sources. federal, state, regional, in that regard and the program that

we'll have on the island. our goal is to move forward with matching funds. and the developer has a $30 million subsidy that we're required to provide to timma and tida. next steps? there's a lot to do in the next three years. that's why we're here today. in order to implement all of these transit services, we have to execute agreements. we have to construct polling system infrastructure. we have to construct the projects on the west side and east side of the island, so we have the toling infrastructure. go ahead and reach agreements, as it relates to the on-island

shuttle. we're in active discussions related to ferry service and how we get it there early. we think it's a very important new mode of transportation. and all of these also will include bias -- bicycle and pedestrian improvements. this gives you a snapshot of what is needed over the next five years, in terms of approvals, operating budgets. this meeting today is the beginning of minimum quarterly meetings if not monthly meetings to come back and advise you on where we stand on everything we presenteded so we can move forward with the implementation of the transit improvements. we've had public outreach and we'll continue to. we want to come back to tida and want to update them quarterly.

our recommendation is to approve the toll policies, affordability program and transit pass program as amended at the timma committee meeting. and i do want to mention that there are additional studies that the committee educate needed to occur, so we're going to move forward with all of those listed on the screen, in particular, looking for free ferry for low-income use. seeing how we can better the a.c. transit ridership and look at opportunities as it relates to that. we have not forgotten about the business community. we understand its pornz. -- importance. we know we have more due diligence relating to a potential stipend. our recommendation is for a 5-year program as it relates to the affordability program and then, finally, a resolution urging the city to contribute

funding for improvements. that completes our presentation. we're available for any questions. >> supervisor kim: thank you so much, mr. cordova. i don't see any questions from committee members. i do think it's important for you to explain what we're actually voting on today and what that means moving forward. >> sure. what you're voting on, frankly, is the tolerate itself, hours of operation, when the toling would be -- when there is no toll. and those are major, key items here. it allows us to go ahead and start to work with the operators to bring transit to the island. there are opportunities, and we'll continue to update you 1 terms of business program rules, etc. some of the intricacies for toling and ones that we need to work out the time details of. the tolerate itself and the hours as well as affordability

and the transit pass are all items that we're seeking your approval on. >> supervisor kim: what if we want to amend as we move the program forward, as more facts and information moves forward, is this policy amendable? >> very good question. you have the opportunity to do so. we'll continue to come back to this board and committee as it relates to the refining of the financial models, after we sit down with transit operators. so there is more to come in that regard. >> supervisor kim: thank you so much, mr. cordoba. a couple of things i wanted to add. throughout this time that the timma committee has been meeting, i've expressed my hesitation on supporting a program that singularly targets one neighborhood to pay for enriching their own public transit. we don't ask that of any other neighborhood in san francisco to help pay for increased

transportation services to that neighborhood. however, one of the point made last week is that we will continue to fund muni via general fund but this is to added additional mobility options including ferry and a.c. transit. so in many ways because it's an additional service, that's what this toll program is investing and funding in. i still continue to have my hesitations, but i feel better moving forward, because there will be periods with zero toling so residents can move their schedule around to find times midday and during the evenings to move out of the island without the toll. we looked at the credit program. if you were to drive in and off the island twice a day, seven days a week at the peak hours, how much would that cost per

month? >> the roundtrip is $7, $3.50 each direction. assuming to and from san francisco, mainland. $7 times 5 is $35, times four weeks, math comes out to close to $160. what we calculated is that we could provide with that stipend two round trips per day per household. that's really -- >> supervisor kim: can we go back to that slide? >> that's important for us to focus on. two round trips per day peak hour. >> supervisor kim: and how much is the total of the resident credit currently? >> when you say total, you mean cost -- >> supervisor kim: monthly toll

credit. >> $300. >> supervisor kim: and it will cover residents going on and off the island, so four one-way trips. >> yes. we as it relates to -- we believe when you do the math, two round trips per day, per weekday, so workweek. >> supervisor kim: the slide is not clear, for residents that live in below market-rate housing, they will be providing two discounted transit passes on top of the toll credit? >> the transit passes -- the $300 stipend can be used to perfect transit passes. or toll. or a combination. so there are options. thought process is that we would be ail to give a stipend and they make the business decision how they use the stipend and it

may influence some of their decision making. if they can go toll offpeak and take transit or we're trying to be as flexible as possible. >> supervisor kim: what is the anticipated start date of the toling program? >> late 2021. >> supervisor kim: thank you so much. commissioner brown? >> supervisor brown: yes, thank you. i'm new to this, so i haven't -- and i don't know a lot of the discussion before. when you have the times, toll times, 10:00 to 3:00, correct, that people can use it for free? is it 10:00 a.m. to 3:00. >> yes. >> supervisor brown: so this is what i'm thinking, there are no schools on the island. and people probably drive their kids to school and pick them up.

and a lot of kids, there may be an after school program. that doesn't give them time to get back on the island, right, if they get their children, come back. so they will probably pay. so it doesn't seem that the time frame is really fit with the school district hours. and i don't know how many children are on this island. i'm sorry, forgive me i don't have this information. it puts them in a bad situation when they're going to get their children. and then they take their children early in the morning. so we're punishing people for having children and living on the island. [applause] that's what i'm seeing. >> the toll hours, the time was consistent with the bay bridge and looking at the overall traffic congestion on the bridge

itself. so that was the impetus for the times we have in front of you. not to say that we can't continue to study that further and have further discussions to better understand the commute of school -- of people that live on the island and go to school in san francisco. >> supervisor kim: there's a sub sid yes for this reason. so the toll subsidy is comment to offset that cost for the parent that may need to take their child via car to school or any peak period trips. that toll credit is -- $300 a month, as you wish, for cash value. and each roundtrip would be $7. so $3.50 one way. so if you went to and from your destination in a peak period, $7 roundtrip. if you do it both ends of the

day, two round trips, $14 a day. so that's about more than 10 trips, 20, really. 20 days, excuse me, two round trips a day. >> exactly. >> supervisor brown: so it would cover two weeks of school? >> driving the peaks? >> supervisor brown: you are getting a subsidy, but that subsidy would only cover about 20 days of the month? >> two round trips per school day. two. not one. that should cover -- >> supervisor brown: sorry. i'm bad at math. $14 a day times 20 days or 22

days, gets that $280 range. all right. thank you. >> that's the math. my apologies for not -- >> this is for five years, correct? >> yes. >> and then starting in -- >> 2026/2027, to taper it down. by that time, we believe that we'll have the critical mass that i indicated before, that should be 2,500 and in essence pay for the more robust transit service there that would be required to handle the level of development up to the 8,000 units. >> in 2021, you would start the

stipend and it would end between 2026 and 2027? >> yes. >> and what about the affordability plan? would it be in play or that's only for five years also? >> the transit program is part of the program overall. so that would stay in place. but the stipend right now, is part of our recommendation, that it would end in that -- >> only the stipend would eliminate in five years? >> yes. if you look at the screen right now, the transit program as a whole, our vision is to have that all the way through. that's what our travel demand and financial forecast models include. to give people the option and give them the reduced rate whenever possible if they qualify. and that would be so they take a.c. transit, muni and new ferry service and on-island shuttle, no payment required.

>> supervisor fewer: does this take into account that we just approved as a state fare rate hikes on tolls for the bay bridge? does this take into account the added money that i think we can raise the toll by $3, is it, on the bay bridge? >> yes. region regional measure 3 was passed by votersle it's under legal challenge. that's separate and apart from the toll here. we've discounted the trip coming through the toll plaza to the island. that's been a 50% discount we've included, given that they're paying a toll at that location. >> supervisor fewer: okay. thank you. >> supervisor kim: commissioner stefani. >> supervisor stefani: to follow up on the question that supervisor brown asked. do we know how many families are living on the island?

>> right now, there are just over 600 households there are there. i don't have the family data off the top of my head. bob beck is here, executive director for tida, he may be able to help me in that regard. >> supervisor kim: director beck, if you would like to respond to the question. >> we have 625 residential households on the island. >> supervisor stefani: did you study if you could exempt treasure island residents and businesses? >> in perpetuity? >> supervisor stefani: yes. that's a study that we'll continue to look at. at the direction of the timma committee, we're to look at that and come back. >> supervisor stefani: the transportation you seek to

provide because of the toll, were there any questions asked of the families that live on the island if they would be able to use that transportation to get their families back and forth? a lot of times, the transportation is there and not convenient for families. >> understood. we held public meetings. we had surveys. we got a better understanding of travel patterns. we probably have to drill deeper down in terms of call it school trips in that regard. when we continue to do our further analysis, we'll do that. >> supervisor stefani: we always talk about families leaving san francisco and a lot of times with this situations where we're looking to charge families more and bear more of the burden, i would expect more studies in that regard and some follow-up. thanks.

>> supervisor kim: any other questions from members of the commission? seeing none, at this time, i think it's important to hear from members of the public, would have been here waiting patiently to provide feedback. please provide feedback to what was presented and it would be helpful to hear what you would like specifically. if members of the public would like to speak, please line up on my left, your right side. all right. let's begin. >> good afternoon, commissioners, chair kim. i'm a long-time, 19-year resident of treasure island. president of yerba buena residents association and i've drafted a petition to oppose the toll. first of all, let me say in great appreciation of the work that timma has done, including mr. cordoba and his team.

there are too many open questions to proceed with voting on this item. to ask a san francisco resident, neighborhood, the residents of a san francisco neighborhood to pay a toll to get to and from their neighborhood seems outrageous. my point for the last half year has been, what are we doing next? build a fence around north beach? ask people to pay $3.50 to get in and out. i don't think it's reasonable. i appreciate what you have done to raise additional funds to find additional funds from the state of california, city of san francisco, or federal funds to build the much-needed public transportation system. and, guess with the, i have great faith in you that you can find more funds to do that. we've heard from you that the toll seems to be the only viable way to do this the residents seem it be opposed

to that not just because we don't think we can afford $3.50 or the stipend. my ears are ringing the session system is too come complicated. we have 100 business owners and operators on treasure island, all of which, every single one of which, will be opposed because the businesses will be hurt. you create gentrification on the island that will hurt it for years to come. by imposing a toll, you are not doing anybody a favor while the problem at hand can be resolved in other ways. we stand by your side to make that happen. thank you for your time. >> supervisor kim: thank you. [applause] >> steve zeltzer.

we have a millionaire toll for working class people. who is pushing it? it's people that want it build high-ris high-rises. 100% of the residents and 100% of the small business are against it. if you vote for this, you are voting against the people you are representing. this is against the working class. this is against small business people that you are taking here. and i would say it's another example of privitazation of san francisco, making working class and poor people pay. we need free public transit and get it by taxing the billionaires and facebook and big corporations. that's what we should do to get proper transit. this island, treasure island, is being contaminated as this work is going on. it has a cover-up of radio activity, which none of the supervisors have investigated,

frankly. the city is covering it up. the state is covering it up. people have gotten cancer. you have rising sea levels in san francisco. that's not factored in. i mean, how are people going to survive there when the sea rises? and, furthermore, in an earthquake, you would have -- city planners did a study that there would be liquidification. it's a cover-up. thank you. >> i'm paris hayes. i've been on the island for 14 years. many of you have said that you reached out to the residents. i've gone door to door, stood in front of stores passing out fliers, informing them of this toll. and every person i spoke to said they were not aware. not aware.

yet you say we're aware. you don't knock on doors. i did. you said you want to implement this in 2021 when the first building is erect. the first one i'm aware of is for the veterans who are in programs right now. they're not going to afford this toll. but you want to put it on the residents. let me ask you -- would you pay for a service that you don't get right away? would you good to a restaurant and eat your meal five years later? no. you want your service right now. so, therefore, we don't want to pay for something we're not going to utilize. you are forcing residents off that island. you are not thinking about it. supervisor jane kim, i met you personally when you were running for your position. you said to me, shook my hand, i am for the residents of treasure

island. if you have a problem, you can talk to me. well, supervisor, we have a problem. what are you going to do about it? i am so tired of you guys putting this on the residents and trying to make it sound like it's a great deal with this $300 stipend. we don't want a stipend. we don't want a toll! if you have to do it, you should grandfather the residents who have been there for a long time. we've been committed to you guys by paying our rents on time. where is the commitment back? it should be reciprocated. shame on you, especially you, supervisor kim, for allowing this to go through. thank you. [applause] >> hi. i'm mi sun voice. i'm a current member of the treasure island yacht club and past membership chair.

so i've been involved on treasure island for seven years and i own a restaurant. my partner and i built the restaurant and opened in january. so this is somewhat new to us in terms of the fact that we're still a new business and much of this has occurred prior to us. i know that the challenge for us, i represent some of the small businesses. i do want to thank the timma and sfcta and treasure island for the fact that i believe they have supported the small businesses in trying to bring necessary business to the island. i'm the only restaurant that's open seven days a week, breakfast, lunch and dinner, so the challenge with us would be if we do this at $7. i have 45 employees i would have to bear that burden at $315 a day, approximately. and that comes to $113,000 out of my pocket i would have to pay. and over a five-your period,

$567,000, which i'm not close to making that as a property. the burden is on us. i believe they've heard us, even today. there was information i was not aware of with the compromises. i would like to ask to have a little bit more one-on-one small business advisory board, not just a citizens advisory board. i think the residents have their issues. this would affect myself, vendors, employees and guests. so i would like to continue the dialogue and try to find a compromise. we know it's a necessary evil, but there may be more dialogue and more time. thank you for your time. [applause] >> thank you, commissioners. i want to -- i'm jim morowski, treasure island wines. i've been running my business there since 2007. you have heard from a lot of businesses and residents about

their opposition. i think it's time for y'all to just take a break and slow down. there's a lot of open issues. there's clearly confusion about what the tolls will be and when. i have customers saying they will not come out to treasure island. i have employees saying that they will not be hired by me if there's a toll. so slow down, take a break, and reach out to the businesses and residents a little bit more. and specifically, a, opposition to, the issues about the revenue from the toll and this is the first time and mr. cordoba, it's the first time i've seen an estimate of the revenue that will be coming from the toll. what happens, question for you, commissioners, if the toll does not generate the revenue expected? is services reduced?

are stipends reduced? is it both? or do the tolls go up? we don't know that. there's all those questions that need to be answers. i urge you all to postpone this decision while there is a number of you that are lake duck members of the board of supervisors. let the know board of supervisor that will be around 4 to 8 years that will be accountable for a lot of the proposals that you are proposing right now. they will be here to interact with the community, the residents, the businesses. i do appreciate some of the outreach that you guys have done, but it's been a little too late. four days' notice a month ago was not the right way to reach out to the businesses. you need to get us involved early on. a lot of you know, i reached out a long time ago. thank you for the opportunity to speak today. also, i want to enter this into

the record. this is a statement from the residents and the businesses about the opposition to the tolls. [applause] >> hi. i'm dan. i'm a resident of treasure island. first, i want to say that i'm a big proponent of getting people out of their cars. i'm a big proponent of public transportati transportation. and i know you want to improve it. i know that the island will grow. change is inevitable. it's hard to keep you sincerely when we have a 25 bus that doesn't show up half the time. on sunday, i wasted 1 hour and 20 minutes, i took the bus twice to san francisco. three trips were delayed by 20 minutes. and that's not even being talked about or looked at. you are talking about new services, buses, ferries, shuttles and the rest, with you can't do the 25 right.

i have to doubt your sincerity on that. i do know about the outreach you've been doing. 1 1/2 years ago i was sent to a meeting at the ship shape building where residents discussed the problems they had, the roads, the problems, that gate view turns into a lake when it rains. they said, the toll is coming. nothing you can do about it. that was 1 1/2 years ago before the vote. so you weren't honest then. i doubt you are being honest now. why will i pay a toll on something? the other thing that's strange, nobody was caring about these improvements before. no one cares that there's a road by the seawall that has no lights or that there are pot holes. now people are buying condos and everybody cares and it's up to us to support it. forget about it. it's not going to work.

[applause] >> hello. i'm carla biondi. i'm here to please, please, asking for a little bit of a postponement in this vote. there's a lot of questions unanswered. a lot of these issues have been brought up to us last minute or last minute changes, even three weeks ago when the timma meeting was held on the island. we were told a certain amount of information. as of today, i'm sitting here and it has changed, which thank you that you heard us from last time, but i didn't know about it. 1 1/2 years ago, i agree with the gentleman before me, it was told to us at a meet being out of the blue, that there will be a toll. you mean i have to pay to get gas? there is nothing on the island for me to do my errands.

daily cleaners, shoe repair, haircut. the kids or getting family from out of town at the airport. no, they don't want to take uber. they want a personal touch of being picked up. yes, that does still exist. so, please, i'm hoping for a lot more answers, a lot more meetings about this, to work with residents. why believe in having to pay a toll on and off in my own city limits, which i'm from san francisco, for me to do san francisco errands, for me to pay to get in and out of-house. thank you very much. [applause] >> good morning. i'm a resident of treasure island since 1998.

so it's kind of an unusual situation. i started a company in treasure island when it was just the commission and i brought in the first telecommunication company. i had to close the business when we couldn't find enough customers. i'm a member of a small community voting committee, that half of our members are driving in. i'm a resident of treasure island, yerba buena island, and treasure island. one of the things we're realizing, is that the hidden costs of living on the island has to be added to the mortgage calculation for people that want to by houses. that's at least about $7,000 to $8,000 of additional costs that's not tax deductible. so that would affect the top of

the people that will belying at treasure island in the future. so all the people that could live there are those that can afford to pay the extra expenses. with treasure island, it's designated as an opportunity zone, which is a contradiction in terms because the small businesses can't operate without paying extra for taking advantage of the opportunity of the opportunity. so i hope we can come out with a better solution. [applause] >> i'm a long-time resident of treasure island. i'm here against the toll. the toll will effectively create

a gated community. the toll will cause a financial burden. it's generally a bad idea. it's egregious for us who have put our time in, worrying about power outages and learning that our units will be smaller than they are now, won't have washer and dryer connections or a backyard. i've been involved with organizing any community for a decade and have never seen an issue with such a visceral reaction. you should focus there. thank you.

[applause] >> i'm desmond harvey. i come here to represent the mothers, parents of treasure island. [please stand by]

i am completely against the toll as is every parent i know on treasure island. [applause.] >> i am alex powers. i have a metal fabrication business on treasure island for 8 years. public transit is not an option for me. i can't take ladders on it. putting a toll on the island would be like putting a toll at

your driveway. to leave from work you would have to pay to come home you would have to pay. treasure island is not mom, dad, kids. they are combined large famili families. two on and offs wouldn't begin to be enough for assisted transportation four individuals there. honestly, i don't understand, treasure island we are a district of san francisco. we are the financial district, mission district, not physically attached. it seems like transit should be coming from tolls from bridges already there. if it is transit, where are the funds going when they are collected? are they going to transit authority and they are in charge of funds properly being used? thank you. >> i am carol martin son.

i help at treasure island winery. i come from the commercial side. i totally support the residents out here. jim has treasure island wine. i help at the winery. we have customers that told us if they have to pay the toll on the bay bridge then pay on treasure island, they are not going to come out. literally the business like jim, as an example, has been building up for years will be totally demolished. nobody wants to pay the money. i don't understand the rush. why are we rushing by the end of the year to get the vote through? it doesn't make sense. thank you for your time, and i trust you will do the right thing. [applause.] >> good morning or is it

afternoon? my name is steve stallone, i am an employee at treasure island wines. you get an idea there is widespread opposition to toll on the island. i think a large part of that is there is no buy in. there is outreach to the residents and the businesses. didn't start until after the board directed the staff to start having more meetings. first business meetings there was any turnout at were at the beginning of november. at that meeting we are presented with a schedule that says a decision is going to be made in six weeks. that is not how you get by. you need to discuss this with the people there. we have ideas. maybe it could help make this work better. i don't understand, as carol was saying, the rush here.

especially when there are so many questions and issues, then having a board with so many lame ducks, people aren't going to be around to be held accountable for the decisions that are made. you have a bunch of new supervisors coming in next month. why aren't they making the decision so that they can be held accountable for what they are doing? the main thing, i think we are asking for. whatever our ideas on the tolls are, the main thing we are asks is to postpone the vote so people have a chance to talk it through, discuss ideas. like i say, i think a lot of people on the island have a lot of ideas to bring to the table that could help. you have already heard that in the very few meetings that have occurred, it is the changes have been made to the proposal

because they got feedback. again, please just postpone this decision. it does not need to be done here now. [applause.] >> my name is janette. i am opposed to the toll. i believe that it is just another way to force residents and businesses to pay for something they won't be around to see or to enjoy. you know, a lot of people live on treasure islands. they have nowhere else to be. this is probably one of the most affordable places in san francisco, you know, and a lot of people are just pushed here because they cannot afford anything else. there is low income houses in san francisco by lottery, by chance. half of the people won't qualify

for that. it is like, of course, we can go to pittsburgh and everywhere else. that is expensive, too. treasure island for us is not a luxury. we have to be here. we can't afford anything else. for that to be taken away for people that can afford to live anywhere they want is completely wrong. they are promising people grandfathered to get units. let's say they can't afford it. to get low income housing you have to be dirt poor. for two people $50,000 together. what if you make more? you can't afford this housing. 60 units there are five thousand people on the list who will never probably be able to get a unit. if you push these people out of treasure island they have nowhere else to go with affordable housing being built. it is not fair at all. a lot of people don't care because it won't affect them.

it really won't. to understanding if it doesn't affect you, you don't care. in th the long run if you are ct afford something, you know, then it will matter for you. for us this is our livelihood, this is where we can afford to live. to take that away is very inhumane and not fair. it is not thinking about the families here. you have got six people to a household. if you get an affordable housing two bedrooms. you have to cramp everybody in there and hope to god you will be able to meet the requirements. you have a lot of programs for people on drugs who cannot even afford, who will not even be able to pass a credit check anywhere else. they resort to being on the island. that is the only place they can afford and not worry about being kicked out if they make too

much. it is wrong. sorry forgetting emotional. for somebody who is poor, i don't have nowhere else to go. that is hard for me to imagine having to try to fight the pitch for a lottery. [applause.] >> thank you for that. that was amazing. those were real. that is what you are dealing with live. i am travis hayes, a malbusiness owner. i have a business on treasure island for seven years. my wife is a teacher for san francisco unified. these stories come together. it is hard for the working class to stay in the city. some understand that. i think it is easy to say it. do you really understand it? you know, there are positions where teachers get affordable loans and stuff. because i am a small business

owner, we don't qualify. these kind of decisions you make now do drive the working class citizens of san francisco that are trying hard to raise families here and have a stake in the city and trying to make a better future for san francisco and have children grow up and love and adore it like we did and our families before us here did, it makes a difference. we ask, one, we don't do the toll. we have no investment in the future of the development. we haven't been told that we can maintain our businesses there. we know it is borrowed time until we have to find somewhere else. i hope i can afford to stay in the city. those are decisions for the future. right now i ask that you look at the people as a whole and take that in, and, you know, vote to

postpone or negate the tolls that does affect us. thank you very much. [applause.] >> i am carol harvey. i live in san francisco. this looks like gouging to us. people on treasure island are many of them living on subsidies. you are going to start a toll in 2021 and end in 2026? this is during the time of the shortfall. it appears that you are charging treasure island businesses and residents to cover that short fall. in other situations, it is the developer that pays for all you have this, not just part of it. the la situation, the tolls

congestion tolls there are to get people to go to the fast lane, not to build an entirely new transportation infrastructure. these people on treasure island are noncreating congestion. they should not be charged a congestion toll. i turned on tv this morning. abc news was talking about the tolls. they are a dumb thing. this has already been accepted and done. people on treasure island have not been told about this. the meetings have been few and short. i am in touch with people on treasure island. they tell me they cannot pay these tolls. $300 per month is not going to cover anything for them. what about if the kid is sick in the middle of the night? that happens a lot out there because you have the dust. they have to be ambulanced to the hospitals in san francisco. this is unfair, and as a

resident of san francisco, i oppose this absolutely. it looks like the intention is to start tolls from neighborhood to neighborhood, just like jane kim said in her introduction that appears to be the sub rosa plan. i oppose that utter leann absolutely. (applause). >> you have already given public comment. >> you can't. this is general public comment. >> we have to close it. what i will say. this will not be the last time we will take public comment on this item. i think everyone has been heard today. i will close public comment on this item. i think this commission has heard loud and clear the community would like to see additional time before we initially vote on this toll program. i did want to give staff an opportunity to respond to some of the questions that came up

today. there are several commissioners that would like to speak in regard to say that. before i go to the commissioners, is it okay if staff responds to the concerns that came up? one of the questions is what the tolling would be funding and what we have seen in the past. it is true in new neighborhood plans developers pay for front load infrastructure like the roads and the sewage and that type of infrastructure. what makes this unique is that we want to build out a ferry system for the residents as well. if we could talk about what the purpose of the toll funds is, who will add more it and how -- administrator it and how they will be invested, that would be great. >> that snapshots