d.j.j. has over 20 organizations that are funded and involved in the lives of young people who are involved in juvenile probation. and so just to give -- i'm trying to hurry because the overflow room is filled with, like, young people who are here to talk, and i don't want to take their opportunity, and at the same time, i think it's important that we lay the groundwork for some of the stuff we want to talk about? so our justice systems were created back when society believed in bad people, and in this day and age and especially in san francisco, we understand that there's no such thing as a bad person, that there are people who have been traumatized, who have been abused and broken and neglected and who are in need of supports and opportunities and places for them to be leaders and people to believe in them. and the system -- the justice system needs to be rethought

and recreated with that in mind. and so we look forward to ongoing conversations and support from the city level all the way through in rethinking how we treat juvenile offenders and even our young adults in the system. the juvenile justice providers association was started in 2004, and we started essentially as a way to build good faith and relationship within our organization to work collaboratively to not fight over pots of money and to make sure that we weren't duplicating a lot of services and we were making the most effective services for people in the system. and we hold each other accountable. our mission is to serve as a collective voice and advocate for the needs of these young folks and their family. i'm going to go fast. sorry.

next slide. so we are excited because we believe that san francisco juvenile justice system can be an innovative national model for what it looks like to really do a good job of serving young people in the system and their families. with the creation of the children's fund, which is now known at -- as dcyf, the face of juvenile justice and all that it entails has changes dramtly. we are celebrating few you are young people in the system. i heard chief nance say that that is because of the commitment that san francisco has made to invest in these services and the c.b.o.s and the supports that we've put into place, and that's absolutely the case. so we celebrate that there's less kids in the system, that there's more opportunities in the communities to keep them here. most of the agencies that are

involved in this work are entrenched in community. they are also representative -- the staff are drawn from communities and represent the diverse cultural and linguistic choices. many of the staff in our organizations have been involved in juvenile probation and have their own experience and life lessons to bring into the mix. we are in need of support. we're hitting some challenges along the way. partnerships are difficult, as you know, and it's vital that we figure out how to partner in ways that best serve the young people and keep them in the community. we're asking for the supervisors to help us with creative solutions to enable san francisco to build and become a more supported and safer community for our young people and their families. we need help resolving challenges that are hurting the kids. we're thankful that in the recent r.f.p., dcyf, and an

investment from j.p.p. dollars, money went into expanded services to continue to serve these vulnerable young people and their families and to continue to provide leadership opportunities and supports for them. i want to be careful in everything that i say to recognize that these young people are a resource, they're not -- it's not a deficit sort of model that we're looking at. these young people are amazing leaders. you're going to hear from them today. they're very articulate about what they need, about what -- how they want their services delivered, about what kind of leadership opportunities they're getting, that they want to see, and they're very vocal about what they want in their own lives, and it's amazing. the joint dcyf and j.p.p.-r.f.d. --

[inaudible] >> -- deliver services to the justice involved youth. the unprecedented restrictions from severely affected our ability to deliver needed services and have already negatively impacted some of the young people that we serve. and while services were expanded, c.b.o. access has been nearly eliminated through the justice department. it has caused issues already? the next slide is -- just speaks to what chief nance already spoke about, as well, which is we're at an exciting time to kind of rethink how we do this and to look at dollars that have been sort of allocated year over year for the same type of services that are -- that need to be rethought. so in this slide, you'll see that to commit a youth to

d.j.j. for a year, the exact number of $314,830 for one year per kid. and to -- and the number for -- for our own j.p.d. is 305,427. so if you look at the cost of -- of what c.b.o.s are serving young people, the c.b.o.s across the board are serving young people in very intensive, engaged ways, for 5 to $10,000 a year, and this includes employment, mental health services, wrab around support, school opportunities, leadership opportunities, and what-have-you, all kinds of creative ways for young people to go into adult hood. so we feel like there's a lot of room to get creative with -- with what it looks like to move forward in -- in rethinking how

we spend money on these vulnerable populations. and then, the next slide also shows what chief nance was speaking to, in that since 2011, referrals to probation have fallen by nearly half. the budget has increased by 16%. i understand that there are set costs in that. we all deal with that, right? we all provide health care for our staff, we all have these set costs that we have to deal with, so i totally understand that burden? and i know that oftentimes, san francisco is not the cheapest place to do business and to make those -- those decisions? but i feel like, once again, there are opportunities for us to think creatively with -- with the city about how we do the best job of maximizing these dollars, and i'm going to turn it over to daisy. >> about two decades ago, san

francisco was committing almost 20 kids annually to d.j.j. before finally agreeing to a moratorium. this year, recommendations to d.j.j. have increased substantially, putting our youth to being sent to one of the most heinous correctional youth facilities i've ever seen. in 2017 based off of an infoal survey of public defenders, only a handful of recommendations were made for d.j.j., and as chief nance referred to, four commitments were nwere made in 2017. this year, there have already been 11 such recommendation and see four commitments. it's our understanding that these referrals are coming from juvenile probation. san francisco is now the only major california county with a higher rate of youth confined in d.j.j. today when compared

to ten years ago. san francisco can do better. we have traditionally been one of the most incompetenovative, progressive cities, but now, we're bringing up the rear. but today, the jjpa and ul aof its constituents are offering our support. we need to be treated as equal partners. other departments in the city do it. the sheriff's department, adult probation, they respect us as professionals, but too often, juvenile probation, it feels like we're ignored with them. we're even considered the enemy when serving our youth. just too often, it seems like we're not using the we mentality, but it's the us versus them mentality.

we will continue to collaborate, so together, we can best support our young people, but to do so, we need an equal seat at the table. in that spirit, we offer our expertise, we offer the ability to fill three of the seats at the sable. san francisco could be the model leading the sfat tate on juvenile justice services. [inaudible] >> the joint r.f.p. imposed new, stringent requirements for justice providers around the referral process, dictating all referrals must come from a sole probation liaison. we saw earlier the chart that

chief nance put up about how many different young people are coming from the different nonprofit organization r associations. among our membership, to date, one, only one referral was made using this new j.p.d.-imposed referral process. restricting referrals prechbss youth from receiving -- -- prevents youth from receiving services in the community by the community. we need unblocked access to our you youth. service needs have changed, and they can best be met by the community. many staff are licensed professionals or have specialized treatments in various treatment modalities.

unfortunately, this year, amongst the five agencies that are within that partnership, two of them have been defunded at the end of this year. we have led the way as an association in moving our system to an innovative system, away from the punitive system of the past. however recent changes threaten our city's progress and hurt our young people. we thank dcyf. dcyf has provided a supportive response to this crisis and partners with us to create work arounds to the referral process b. two weeks ago, dcyf announced that agencies no longer have to seek j.p.d. approval to move youth from one program to another. we can serve at risk and in risk youth. agencies can now accept referrals from public defender's offices, the court

services, other partners outside of juvenile probation. we asked this style of partnership continue, and as the juvenile justice coordinating council updates its by laws, we request the task force be cochaired with community. in closing, we ask that we simply be treated as an equal partner. both departments greed to an equal definition. let us craft this definition. let us be part of the process for the community it impacts. we celebrate few you aer kids,e need to maintain that downward trend, so we ask for an analysis of the juvenile hall. whi while -- we ask the city reinstate full funding to the icyf collaborative.

we will seek that task force. give us the opportunity. we will put young people, providers, and parents and family members on it. we ask together we build a community of community members to move san francisco to the forecast of juvenile -- forefront of juvenile justice reform. on behalf of the entire juvenile justice providers association, we thank you, and the community for your support. >> supervisor mandelman: questions? supervisor ronen? >> supervisor ronen: i wanted to make some comments because i have to leave. i just wanted to start off by thanking supervisor fewer for holding this hear. this is a long time coming.

we've needed this public discussion about what's going on. i know that it impacts many, not only youth but community based organizations that serve residents of my district. so this is really important. in no specific order, i just wanted to give a few of my thoughts before i leave. one, i just want to say i've had a lot of time to -- when i was a legislative aide for supervisor campos to sit down and be in j.j.p. meetings to help create the road map to peace program that is an incredible community based program wrapping around youth and stopping them from getting involved in the juvenile justice system. and i can't -- that experience, i cannot speak more highly of -- of the -- of this coalition of groups, of j.j.p.a. and the individual

organizations and the work they do. i know them intimately. i've worked with them very closely, and i will say that the impacts that they make in the community and on the lives of these youth is profound, it works. it prevents, you know, violence in our communities, and it's one of the most effective ways that i think we can both do the violence prevention side of things, but also, the empowerment, building up career path-type training type of support that youth need to stay out of this system. so i -- i just have to say that i've been there with these community-based organizations, and i can personally vouch for their impact and their success and their accountability to the community and one another. and i also want to say that many, many years ago, i went to visit log cabin ranch, and i was impressed by what i saw

there at the time. gosh, i don't know -- i would say this was five, six years ago. but i think it's a very unique and special asset that we have in this city. and i know that in working with the sfvip, the street violence prevention initiative, with all of the community-based organizations in the mission, that there are so many times that we -- when things are hot, when gang violence is hot in the community, where these organizations, what they want to do, more than anything, is take youth out of town, get them out of here, get them away from the violence, use an out-of-town space to nurture and talk about the pressures that are happening. using this facility for that purpose as opposed to, you know, as a way for these community-based organizations to get youth out of town when needed and to do this community building work seems like a

really great option, and i just wanted to throw that out there because we need it. we need it as a community, and it just seems like a really nice match. given its historical role, perhaps we can move it in a more progressive path. i would also say i'm very concerned about the reverse trends in referrals to d.j.j. what is going on here? what is happening here and how can we stop it? it's something you need to investigate in this meeting and i will certainly follow up on that. that is a statistic that needs to have our alarms going off like crazy, the fact that we are the only county where this reverse trend is happening is really very, very alarming. so i just want to say i hear

you, i am alarmed as you are, and we need to drill down on that. and then finally, the cost, geez, i didn't know the disparity in cost. that was an eye opener. we are always trying to suho we can best use our funds here in san francisco to help the most people. the discrepancy between the community based services and the cost to help those people and the juvenile justice is a big one, and i think it's something that bears drilling down further on and looking at that piece and figuring that piece out. so again, i am so sorry that i have to leave. i will go back and watch the community testimony tonight when i get home on sfgovtv. thank you, sfgovtv for recording those hearings and making them available to the public that can't be here at the moment, and again, thank you, supervisor fewer, for holding this hearing. [applause] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you, vice chair ronen. a little bit of housekeeping.

supervisor fewer is substituting in for supervisor peskin, which allows us to maintain our quorum and continue the hearing. so -- yeah. >> supervisor fewer: chair, i probably believe we should do public comment. due to the volume of speakers, i would recommend a one-minute time. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: great. so i think we will do that. we'll limit speakers to one minute. we ask that you state your first and last name clearly and speak directly into the microphone. if you have prepared written remarks, you can leave them with the clerk. no clapping or booing is permitted, and in the interest of time, we ask no repetition. you can lineup where these folks are, and we will begin public comment. so first speaker. >> thank you. my name is jocelyn, and i'm 23

years old. i'm a formerly incarcerated youth. [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hello, supervisors. i'm just here today, chairman of the youth commission. i'm here to re'em if a sies our commitment and recommendations that we made. we supported this hearing and we support community-driven solutions and community organizations that work to address youth needs. we recommended to have two youth seats on the task force because this is an issue that

really affects young people and it's an issue that really gets me up set a bit because one of those issues that data cannot explain all that profoundly? i think this is an approach that requires more looking into the experiences of the individual and experiences young people are going here with? my concern is the psychological effect log cabin ranch may be having on young people. i understand as a young person is i can do questionable things that a lot of people in older generations might question me for, but there's always an under lying reason why these actions are being done by young people, and i'm really curious to see the psychological effects that log cabin ranch is having on people. something that i learned last year in working with justice and employment committee, and it's something i would love to explore -- [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> my name's damon burris.

i'm a 23 year veteran of the san francisco juvenile hall. stand in support of the administration, but i do want to say one of the things that the chief nance did not talk about was the higher number of mental health kids that we are seeing in our facility. and as this new log cabin ranch facility is being created, i think that the line staff, supervisor fewer, if you could make it a point to have the line staff be a part of that creation. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hello. how you doing? my name is lucero. my pronoun, she and hers. i go inside the unit five, the only girls unit in juvenile hall. i brought a story from the inside: her guardian has mental

health issues that without support and adequate care seems them unfit to take care of this girl. she can't go home because there isn't an adequate placement for her. this is what she wanted you to know? i would ask for probation to work with me and my family and not to try to separate us. i would ask the judge to receive services that monitor my meds for myself and my dad. allow me to do regular kid things because that is how i would get back on track. if i could envision a new program for kids to stay out of juvenile haul, it would be a transitional program for all ages. [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. >> clerk: mr. chair, the speaker's time is concluded.

[inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you very much. next speaker. >> my name is kayon. [inaudible] >> i got a testimony also -- this is actual experience from a young person that's in juvenile hall right now. ns from a girl who was arrested for robbery. she and her family need support with basic needs, with family counseling, supportive case management for hur family, not just her, her circumstances would improve. here is what she needs. i wish i would be able to participate in programs that she actually likes. i feel like the program that we get sent to, don't fit our needs. probation officers don't ask what you need, they think for you. the program don't always fit the age group. i want a community program that knows what it's like to be me. i want a community-based organization that help me with

my future, not just any circumstances. if i could create a new program to help girls like me stay out of juvenile hall, i would like a program with lots of activities -- [inaudible] >> clerk: mr. chair. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. thank you. thank you. we're stressing out our clerk. thank you. [inaudible] >> my name is marlene. i'm a young woman, resident of san francisco. i am speaking on behalf of washington youth shelters, just all the residents there. i feel like we need to redirect juvenile dollars to give young people who they need instead of locking them. san francisco spent $300,000 to

house the youth in custody a year, while it only costs 5 to 10,000 a year for youth to receive meaningful and cost effective services in the community. we need more places like that. if we got all these resources for all these things, but it's a while district -- it's the whole bayview district, it's the whole potrero, it's the whole sunnydale. it's where the rich white people are, why it got to be there? >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. >> good even. i'm sean cochran, and i'm with one of the services that was eliminated. there's a lot of stuff to talk about. i brought up a youth to speak on the program and the services

that he received that will be eliminated if we continue with what's going on. >> my name is damian -- i think that the old school -- not old school, my apologies, ottp should still exist because honestly, without them, i don't think i would be here today. they really helped get through some tough times. like i was deep in depression for a very long time because i didn't really have a family, and without them, i wouldn't -- again, i wouldn't be here. i'm so sorry. i'm nervous as hell. that's all i can come up with. i'm sorry. >> that's great. okay. thank you. [applause] >> supervisor mandelman: next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is selena solomon, and

i have been a clinical case manager at cjcj for a little over a year. i'm here to express my strong support for community based providers in order to help service the youth we serve and the communities. through my work, i've seen that addressing the needs of justice involved youth requires collaboration. one of the things that i've experienced is the lack of proper documentation that probation departments fail to provide regarding or youth's mental health and transition back into the community. without medication, our youth's day-to-day functioning's impacted, they're unable to complete schoolwork or are out in the community which puts their safety at risk. i want to thank you all for today's discussion and thank you all for san francisco's robust network of

community-based organizations. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hi. good evening. my name is divasie siegel. the probation system is made up of people, including probation officers. they all have youth and family that they care about with deeply. some of the collaborations that i've made with probation are great. that being said, the professionalism in j.p.d. is extremely uneven. challenges that we face in noncollaboratetive work have been a lot of no showing, a lot of lack of communication with community providers and youth. asking providers to leave room -- leave the room during meetings with youth, cussing at children inappropriately, and overall asking to initiate or terminate clinical services when it's completely out of their credentials. these are some of the

challenges. again, it's not across the board, it's just the spectrum of the challenges that we deal with when attempting to fuel collaboration. [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> i am a community organizer at the young woman's freedom center, and i highly believe in allocating the money to youth led innovations and solutions. i am currently incarcerated, and now that i am allowed to speak and advocate on my behalf, i empower youth to speak on their own in their community. san francisco government needs to prioritize in the youth now instead of waiting. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening.

i'm the initiative director with road map to peace and a member of the juvenile justice providers association. and i just wanted to reiterate the call for us to come together, community and the departments to be able to reenvision a juvenile probation and juvenile reform that is led by community and by the lived experiences of those that know best what needs to happen, especially the young people themselves. and really looking at what we need to do now in terms of just the referral process that was talked -- spoke about and how we need to make sure that young people and their families are getting the services they need this their community that are best provided by the community to address trauma, to address a lot of the other issues, and working together around a justice involved definition where we don't leave people out that will just end up being involved in the system if we don't reach them sooner.

>> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening. i'm with cjcj and i'm a clinical case manager. what i wanted to do was just echo what my colleagues said. collaboration is a really big thing. if j.p.d. called on us, we're there to help the youth and family be successful. again, we don't want to be seen as the enemy, but working collaboratively with probation. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening. i'm maureen washburn. our policy team routinely studies juvenile justice trends at the state and county level. and for years, san francisco has been a leader among counties in many measures of youth success.

and that's thanks in large part to the folks in the room today, community based service providers who are working closely with young people in their homes, their neighborhoods, with families, and providing the kind of support that can only come outside of the formal probation system. so i thank you for today's discussion and for seeking answers. thank. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hello. my name is colleen devine. i'm a member of jtpa. i wanted to urge you to reconsider the decision to defund cjcj and jtpa. the five agencies all have different levels of expertise. we at ottp also have the unique staff of licensed mental health occupational therapists? and certainly we're not

competing for referrals, there are many vulnerable youth in san francisco that really are in dire need of our services, and we really help them with finding jobs and getting mental health support and finding housing, and i really fear what will happen if our two agencies are cut, so thank you very much. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hello. my name's colleen mcneal, and i also work at ottp, and i had the privilege of working with people at l.c.r. the last two years. i got to work hand in hand with youth and with staff to identify needs and really, client-centered services. and we would help youth apply for jobs, apply for college applications, working hand in

hand, and it's just that collaborative part of l.c.r. that i think was one of the most incredible things for that. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening. brian goldsteen with the center on juvenile and criminal justice. first we want to thank the committee for taking up the issue and all the young people that are here today to testify. san francisco overreliance on juvenile incarceration is absent any meaningful collaborations with community based organizations that are in the room today. what we're asking is for this committee, this city, this county is to recognize the potential for this state line model. we're asking for san francisco to invest in this network, invest in this model and not in

incarceration. san francisco can do better. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hello. i'm a youth from young women freedom center, and i've been previously incarcerated in juvenile hall over three times, and i feel like programs like young women's freedom center help us more. we need our p.o.s to understand where we're coming from and what we need from them, and i feel like they need to understand us better. i advocated to be in the women's freedom center, and they're helping me to be on the right path and not be in juvenile hall. we don't need to be incarcerated and be put in cage, and not getting the help we need. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> how you doing, sir? i'm a current service provider through sunset youth services, but i also had the honor of

working with 11 great years with cjcj as an expediter. and in that service, i provided service plans for the youth in support of the youth. unfortunately, it was blocked through the department of probation, and so ultimately, the youth would suffer because they didn't have a service plan provided that was referred by the attorneys and public defenders. we have the legal way from our politics but because it's hurting the youth ultimately. thank you very much. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> i was just looking around the room, and i see jack jackle

and a whole host of people that didn't need to be there. i think everybody agrees juvenile justice, there's a problem there. i don't know if it can be fixed, and the only other alternative is to have it dismantled. i think if it would have been fixed, if it could have been fixed, it would have been. i think we had a good shot with willie brown's juvenile justice program. we gave it a shot skpr, and it didn't work. let's end it now. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> i was the clinician up at log cabin ranch for the last five years up until it closed down. and also a district one voter. go sandy. i just want today speak ed to amazing program at the ranch that i got to be a part of for

the last five years? and having a wealth of providers that come, it was an amazing program and i hope that it does not go to waste and i hope that we have a place for young people to escape and get away from the streets and focus on figuring out how to get their life together. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hello. my name is jessica. i grew up in san francisco's juvenile justice system, and i stand before you with the power of organizations like the yeoman's freedom center. i do want to say thank you to having this hearing today. we are in crisis in san francisco with such a small

amount of young people overall. we are talking about the most vulnerable youth, black youth, brown youth, and we are talking about neighborhoods where families from young people to their -- to their parents are being displaced, and i just -- if we can close our eyes and imagine, what would it look like if we invested those $300,000 that we're spending to incarcerate these youth into their families, into our communities so that families can stay in san francisco -- [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening, supervisors. thank you very much for holding this hearing. and supervisor fewer, it's nice to see you here. my name is alita fischer. and i wanted to point out that the national institute of health did a study that found that more than 50% of students in large urban school districts

manifest significant learning, behavior, and emotional problems. and here in california, back in 2010, we switched our funding from -- to local control funding formula, which meant ab-114, which removed mental health services funding through the county stream that we had before, and the legislative analyst's office did a study on this and found that student services have been removed from i.e.p.s, and there's no way with the new bill to track the mechanism of how we're spending the bill. so not only is there not a way to track mental health services for our students now -- [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. try not to give our clerk a heart attack. next speaker. >> good evening. my name is leili, and i am the

director of the largest movement of progressive jews throughout the united states, all organizing on racial justice. i'm here to express my strong support on behalf of bend the arch. this we believe is a means towards working -- including racial justice and economic justice. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is trang. i'm a reentry case manager and reentry coordinator from the center of juvenile justice. through my work at cjcj, i seen that addressing the needs of justice based youth requires sstss and support from the community. as a reentry case manager and mental coordinator --

[inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hello. my name is henry brown, and i think it's very important to give our young people dignity, and by putting them in the juvenile justice system, it might remove dignity, even though that's not the goal of ensuring our society is safe. i've met young people in san francisco going to city college who would have went into the juvenile justice system that

our d.a. does to try to make them from going there. i want to end -- i would like to say the ranch become somewhat of a cultural heritage site of moving away from criminalizing people into giving them the ability to have alternative routes and therapies to sitting in and becoming whole within society. thank you for your time. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is samara. i'm currently on procebation, d i think we should keep the ranch open, just open more programs and stuff, better programs. >> supervisor mandelman: good job. next speaker. >> good evening. how you doing? i'm damian posy, community

advocate, youth advocate. cjcj case manager. i'm also a graduate of log cabin ranch. '93-94. i've had the pleasure of going back up there several times, supporting the young men with groups. like the young man just said, it's a great space, a -- >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker.

>> with new funding from dcyf, lyra is collaborating with -- [inaudible] >> -- during the most recent two years, 92 parents have disclosed -- participants have disclosed contact with the juvenile justice system. over half of these yungs people are transgender nonconforming and over two thirds or youth of color. approximately two out of ten are immigrant youth, youth who have come to this country, to our city, seeking a safe place

to be who they are. [inaudible] >> supervis >> supervisor mandelman: next speaker. >> my name is carly devlin. kwun of the more strike will da -- striking -- [inaudible] >> -- i think that thinking through c.b.o. is really important because we do see young people in this cycle and we don't want to set them up for failure. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker.

>> my name is renee. i work as a policy analyst and i study local trends as well as federal oneses san francisco is a state model and one we -- what we're discussing today reaches beyond our city and our county. what we really need in san francisco is community led and operated programs for our young people. it's not enough to have system led community contracts. so i waely would like to have a discussion on lifting our young people up on community based service provider. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is lisa. i'm a commissioner from cjcj, and i just want to thank you for having this hearing. i want to advocate for these communities that i come from,

and believe that we should have the self-determination to know what we need as a community and what healing should look like and not just necessarily have probation dictate that with you know, whatever the laws dictate for our young people. we should be able to tell and hear out our community on what their needs are, and that's what we do at our organization. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hi. my name is maura quinn. i'm with cjcj. i'm a case manager at cam yo health for women and kids. what i want to say is i know a lot of people who work with probation officers, i know a lot who work with case managers and i services or they're receiving other services. and the difference that i see in people when they are getting ready to go and talk with the probation officer versus them

just going to receive services somewhere. it's, like -- it's -- it's just -- the effect that they have, they are never excited. they always feel like they are going to get in trouble, even when they are doing nothing wrong. it is just the type of feeling that they have. insane is the word that i would use to describe this. you know, we expect different results, but we are doing the same thing, and we know what the problem is, so i just hope that something changes. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hi there. thank you for having this hearing today. i am a district one voter, a proud voter, and thank you so much for your leadership, supervisor. supervisor mandelman, i know you are committed to reducing youth homelessness. what is not discussed in the juvenile probation budget is 78% of those dollars are general fund dollars.

that means we have tremd discretion about how those funds are spent, and i think a lot of those could be allocated for providing housing out of our hall for the youth. i think life learning academy that has a brand-new facility and they don't have funds to run it. think we have -- i think we have to talk about residential mental health programs. we cannot be putting our youth with mental health issues up at the hall. lastly, i would love your leadership in asking -- [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. >> lastly, i think we can help dcyf for probation to track referrals that they're making into the community so we have

the correct placement for that. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> hello, supervisors. i'm margaret bride and i'm here to say we need to close down a probation system that's been going on for a long time. you missed the chart of how the budget has stayed the same while the kids have gone down. we need to reallocate those dollars and we know how to do it. just a little bit of history, 30 years ago, i was saying we need to get all of the status offenders out of the probation system. we need to close this out and put all the money into huckleberry youth services and out of the probation department because it's not going to work

if it was driven by the probation system. and it was approved by the board of supervisors. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> good morning. my name is sharon douglas, and i work with catholic charities, san francisco boys and girls home, and i'm the program director, and i have a program which is located in the sunset and the richmond which how's eight youths in each homes, which is california state funded through community care licensing, and we have been in business for over 40 years to hold girls and boys, each facility. we had to lose our girls program due to low referrals into the system, so we are alternative to detention, which dcyf, also, we lost our funding this year at all where we usually had funding for the last 15 years. we are also a strip, which is our continuing care reform. for the state, we have our mon

tall health and traditional and -- mental health and traditional wrap services for the community. we help to reintegrate youth back into our community, instead of detention or going out of state or outside of san francisco. [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. i'm going to ask folks to try to contain their conversations as the speakers speak. next speaker. >> good evening. my name is tamika clear. this is my new friend, amika. she's 21 years old, and san francisco spends more than $300,000 to lock up one youth a year. instead, employ seven youths with full-time jobs for a year. house 16 youth at median income rent for a year. pay for family or individual

therapy for 28 youth. send four youth to stanford college to receive their b.a. it's time to reimagine youth justice. it's time to look at sisters like mika and tamika and say we really do for real believe in you. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> i would like to say that the food isn't good. they need better food, showers. youth shouldn't be sent far away from our families. i feel that sending us out of home placement puts us in more danger. that's why we try to leave. >> hi. i think they should be referred to real programs that benefit youth color. they need to be treated with the same respect. they need new clothes, as well.

>> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening, supervisors. my name is drew min. i'm a resident of district one and a mayoral appointment to the youth commission. we have severely fallen behind in our duty to serve this youth. it seems that juvenile hall -- the services that it offers are severely lacking. they have felt that there was no direction or follow up after release. punishments are arbitrarily given, and some of these may include being walocked in thei cell for a whole week. the youth commission recommends to this board that they inquire about the reasons for the run

aways from log cabin ranch, we recommend that two youth seats be part of the task force that is being made, and we would like to express our full supports for community-based organizations. thank you so much. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening. patty lee, managing attorney, public defender's office, juvenile unit, and i have been in the juvenile unit over 30 years. but what i want to say tonight is that we need to have an immediate option program for the ranch because right now, in the past year, we have contested 11 d.j.j. recommendations. this is what the private bar and our office -- last year, in 2017, we only had four. so we've been successful in keeping these youth out. but we cannot wait another year. we have kids in the pipeline, and we know that the recidivism

and reoffending rates for d.j.j. are horrendous. so i'm here to ask that we also create immediately an opening for a ranch program, whether it's at the ranch or with community based organization support. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> supervisors, i'm the director on the center for juvenile justice. i'm going to be very clear. there's absolutely no way that san francisco should ever send a kid to a state institution at this point. we have -- we have an array of programs that's unmatched anywhere else in the state. in fact probably the best array of community based programs anywhere in the country. they're under utilized and they're under utilized for the same old reasons when i was

standing here 30 years ago. it's nothing new. we have a 150 bed juvenile hall that's about a third filled. we've got the log cabin ranch. we've got an array of community based resources. there is no reason for ever sending a kid to a state correctional institution again. we can create a model here in san francisco by -- [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. thank you. next speaker. >> good evening. thank you for having this hearing. my name is casey lee, and i was a juvenile defender down in los angeles, and i currently am a juvenile defender here in san francisco, and i also am assistant in overseeing the panel that oversee our youth here. i do want to emphasize that we need an immediate solution, an alternative to the ranch.