grow. change is inevitable. it's hard to keep you sincerely when we have a 25 bus that doesn't show up half the time. on sunday, i wasted 1 hour and 20 minutes, i took the bus twice to san francisco. three trips were delayed by 20 minutes. and that's not even being talked about or looked at. you are talking about new services, buses, ferries, shuttles and the rest, with you can't do the 25 right. i have to doubt your sincerity on that. i do know about the outreach you've been doing. 1 1/2 years ago i was sent to a meeting at the ship shape building where residents discussed the problems they had, the roads, the problems, that gate view turns into a lake when it rains. they said, the toll is coming. nothing you can do about it. that was 1 1/2 years ago before the vote. so you weren't honest then. i doubt you are being honest

now. why will i pay a toll on something? the other thing that's strange, nobody was caring about these improvements before. no one cares that there's a road by the seawall that has no lights or that there are pot holes. now people are buying condos and everybody cares and it's up to us to support it. forget about it. it's not going to work. [applause] >> hello. i'm carla biondi. i'm here to please, please, asking for a little bit of a postponement in this vote. there's a lot of questions unanswered. a lot of these issues have been brought up to us last minute or last minute changes, even three weeks ago when the timma meeting was held on the island. we were told a certain amount of information. as of today, i'm sitting here

and it has changed, which thank you that you heard us from last time, but i didn't know about it. 1 1/2 years ago, i agree with the gentleman before me, it was told to us at a meet being out of the blue, that there will be a toll. you mean i have to pay to get gas? there is nothing on the island for me to do my errands. daily cleaners, shoe repair, haircut. the kids or getting family from out of town at the airport. no, they don't want to take uber. they want a personal touch of being picked up. yes, that does still exist. so, please, i'm hoping for a lot more answers, a lot more meetings about this, to work with residents.

why believe in having to pay a toll on and off in my own city limits, which i'm from san francisco, for me to do san francisco errands, for me to pay to get in and out of-house. thank you very much. [applause] >> good morning. i'm a resident of treasure island since 1998. so it's kind of an unusual situation. i started a company in treasure island when it was just the commission and i brought in the first telecommunication company. i had to close the business when we couldn't find enough customers. i'm a member of a small community voting committee, that half of our members are driving in. i'm a resident of treasure island, yerba buena island, and

treasure island. one of the things we're realizing, is that the hidden costs of living on the island has to be added to the mortgage calculation for people that want to by houses. that's at least about $7,000 to $8,000 of additional costs that's not tax deductible. so that would affect the top of the people that will belying at treasure island in the future. so all the people that could live there are those that can afford to pay the extra expenses. with treasure island, it's designated as an opportunity zone, which is a contradiction in terms because the small businesses can't operate without paying extra for taking advantage of the opportunity of the opportunity. so i hope we can come out with a

better solution. [applause] >> i'm a long-time resident of treasure island. i'm here against the toll. the toll will effectively create a gated community. the toll will cause a financial burden. it's generally a bad idea. it's egregious for us who have put our time in, worrying about power outages and learning that our units will be smaller than they are now, won't have washer and dryer connections or a backyard. i've been involved with

organizing any community for a decade and have never seen an issue with such a visceral reaction. you should focus there. thank you. [applause] >> i'm desmond harvey. i come here to represent the mothers, parents of treasure island. [please stand by]

i am completely against the toll as is every parent i know on

treasure island. [applause.] >> i am alex powers. i have a metal fabrication business on treasure island for 8 years. public transit is not an option for me. i can't take ladders on it. putting a toll on the island would be like putting a toll at your driveway. to leave from work you would have to pay to come home you would have to pay. treasure island is not mom, dad, kids. they are combined large famili families. two on and offs wouldn't begin to be enough for assisted transportation four individuals there. honestly, i don't understand, treasure island we are a district of san francisco. we are the financial district, mission district, not physically

attached. it seems like transit should be coming from tolls from bridges already there. if it is transit, where are the funds going when they are collected? are they going to transit authority and they are in charge of funds properly being used? thank you. >> i am carol martin son. i help at treasure island winery. i come from the commercial side. i totally support the residents out here. jim has treasure island wine. i help at the winery. we have customers that told us if they have to pay the toll on the bay bridge then pay on treasure island, they are not going to come out. literally the business like jim, as an example, has been building up for years will be totally

demolished. nobody wants to pay the money. i don't understand the rush. why are we rushing by the end of the year to get the vote through? it doesn't make sense. thank you for your time, and i trust you will do the right thing. [applause.] >> good morning or is it afternoon? my name is steve stallone, i am an employee at treasure island wines. you get an idea there is widespread opposition to toll on the island. i think a large part of that is there is no buy in. there is outreach to the residents and the businesses. didn't start until after the board directed the staff to start having more meetings. first business meetings there was any turnout at were at the

beginning of november. at that meeting we are presented with a schedule that says a decision is going to be made in six weeks. that is not how you get by. you need to discuss this with the people there. we have ideas. maybe it could help make this work better. i don't understand, as carol was saying, the rush here. especially when there are so many questions and issues, then having a board with so many lame ducks, people aren't going to be around to be held accountable for the decisions that are made. you have a bunch of new supervisors coming in next month. why aren't they making the decision so that they can be held accountable for what they are doing? the main thing, i think we are asking for. whatever our ideas on the tolls

are, the main thing we are asks is to postpone the vote so people have a chance to talk it through, discuss ideas. like i say, i think a lot of people on the island have a lot of ideas to bring to the table that could help. you have already heard that in the very few meetings that have occurred, it is the changes have been made to the proposal because they got feedback. again, please just postpone this decision. it does not need to be done here now. [applause.] >> my name is janette. i am opposed to the toll. i believe that it is just another way to force residents and businesses to pay for something they won't be around to see or to enjoy. you know, a lot of people live

on treasure islands. they have nowhere else to be. this is probably one of the most affordable places in san francisco, you know, and a lot of people are just pushed here because they cannot afford anything else. there is low income houses in san francisco by lottery, by chance. half of the people won't qualify for that. it is like, of course, we can go to pittsburgh and everywhere else. that is expensive, too. treasure island for us is not a luxury. we have to be here. we can't afford anything else. for that to be taken away for people that can afford to live anywhere they want is completely wrong. they are promising people grandfathered to get units. let's say they can't afford it. to get low income housing you have to be dirt poor. for two people $50,000 together.

what if you make more? you can't afford this housing. 60 units there are five thousand people on the list who will never probably be able to get a unit. if you push these people out of treasure island they have nowhere else to go with affordable housing being built. it is not fair at all. a lot of people don't care because it won't affect them. it really won't. to understanding if it doesn't affect you, you don't care. in th the long run if you are ct afford something, you know, then it will matter for you. for us this is our livelihood, this is where we can afford to live. to take that away is very inhumane and not fair. it is not thinking about the families here. you have got six people to a household. if you get an affordable housing two bedrooms. you have to cramp everybody in

there and hope to god you will be able to meet the requirements. you have a lot of programs for people on drugs who cannot even afford, who will not even be able to pass a credit check anywhere else. they resort to being on the island. that is the only place they can afford and not worry about being kicked out if they make too much. it is wrong. sorry forgetting emotional. for somebody who is poor, i don't have nowhere else to go. that is hard for me to imagine having to try to fight the pitch for a lottery. [applause.] >> thank you for that. that was amazing. those were real. that is what you are dealing with live. i am travis hayes, a malbusiness owner. i have a business on treasure island for seven years.

my wife is a teacher for san francisco unified. these stories come together. it is hard for the working class to stay in the city. some understand that. i think it is easy to say it. do you really understand it? you know, there are positions where teachers get affordable loans and stuff. because i am a small business owner, we don't qualify. these kind of decisions you make now do drive the working class citizens of san francisco that are trying hard to raise families here and have a stake in the city and trying to make a better future for san francisco and have children grow up and love and adore it like we did and our families before us here did, it makes a difference. we ask, one, we don't do the

toll. we have no investment in the future of the development. we haven't been told that we can maintain our businesses there. we know it is borrowed time until we have to find somewhere else. i hope i can afford to stay in the city. those are decisions for the future. right now i ask that you look at the people as a whole and take that in, and, you know, vote to postpone or negate the tolls that does affect us. thank you very much. [applause.] >> i am carol harvey. i live in san francisco. this looks like gouging to us. people on treasure island are many of them living on subsidies. you are going to start a toll in 2021 and end in 2026?

this is during the time of the shortfall. it appears that you are charging treasure island businesses and residents to cover that short fall. in other situations, it is the developer that pays for all you have this, not just part of it. the la situation, the tolls congestion tolls there are to get people to go to the fast lane, not to build an entirely new transportation infrastructure. these people on treasure island are noncreating congestion. they should not be charged a congestion toll. i turned on tv this morning. abc news was talking about the tolls. they are a dumb thing. this has already been accepted and done. people on treasure island have not been told about this. the meetings have been few and short.

i am in touch with people on treasure island. they tell me they cannot pay these tolls. $300 per month is not going to cover anything for them. what about if the kid is sick in the middle of the night? that happens a lot out there because you have the dust. they have to be ambulanced to the hospitals in san francisco. this is unfair, and as a resident of san francisco, i oppose this absolutely. it looks like the intention is to start tolls from neighborhood to neighborhood, just like jane kim said in her introduction that appears to be the sub rosa plan. i oppose that utter leann absolutely. (applause). >> you have already given public comment. >> you can't. this is general public comment. >> we have to close it. what i will say.

this will not be the last time we will take public comment on this item. i think everyone has been heard today. i will close public comment on this item. i think this commission has heard loud and clear the community would like to see additional time before we initially vote on this toll program. i did want to give staff an opportunity to respond to some of the questions that came up today. there are several commissioners that would like to speak in regard to say that. before i go to the commissioners, is it okay if staff responds to the concerns that came up? one of the questions is what the tolling would be funding and what we have seen in the past. it is true in new neighborhood plans developers pay for front load infrastructure like the roads and the sewage and that

type of infrastructure. what makes this unique is that we want to build out a ferry system for the residents as well. if we could talk about what the purpose of the toll funds is, who will add more it and how -- administrator it and how they will be invested, that would be great. >> that snapshots was the purpose of the toll was to fund the ferry service and ac transit and shuttle. the ac transit is buses themselves there is a exhibit w the developer where the developer is required to purchase or provide funds to purchase the ac transit buses. the ferry service itself, their contribution is $30 million to the infrastructure and water and building the ferry on the island.

when it comes to shuttle refresh my memory. the developer makes the initial of the shuttle's themselves. everything we are talking about is the operations and maintenance for all of that in that regard. then the screen also talks about affordability program we discussed and the costs related to that and overall operation and maintenance of the toll system and the cameras and staff costs associated with that. >> if i all reading the slide correctly, how much of the revenue is coming from the actual developer? in the green here? >> right. the ticd subsidy is assumed, frankly, to be the development agreement requires $4 million per year. our thought process was the we could front load that, that would help the program overall. we have to negotiate that with

tida and the development team. >> so everyone understands the green on the slide shows how much the developer is contributing to the transit program. nobody knows what ticd is. >> the blue is what revenue we expect, the toll to bring in for the new transportation services. >> right. >> the red is the fare. >> there is the ferry and ac transit revenue also with minor parking revenue, too. >> what distinguishes this is none of this covers additional muni service to the island. the city will fund that. >> exactly us commissioner. the other question is when the first vertical or building goes up is when the tolling begins. the first building is 100% affordable housing. is that the development at which point the tolling would begin?

>> let me doublecheck with bob beck. we are targeting later part of 2021. i would want to check with bob when the first affordable housing units are available. >> it shouldn't begin with first affordable housing project but with the market rate development. >> the first market rate development which will include 14 affordable units is slated to come on line late 2021 as eric described. the first 100% affordable building will be completed in 2022. >> that will be after the first market rate development? >> yes. >> also, members of the public brought up on you much advance notice they got for the outreach notice. it was acknowledged the timma agency did outreach on the island. there is contention about the advance notice they got.

can you talk about the timeline? >> yes, a bit every -- refresher from the meetings. we heard you loud and clear in making sure we get advance notice out in that regard. >> i think based on the public comment we are going to have to do more outreach with more advance notice. i think for the residents and small business owners here today, what i would suggest we talk about how we can make this program work for existing small businesses and residents. there will be some tolling program but how can we make it work? what are the options? increase credit? permanently grandfather in current residents? we need revenue to pay for the ferry and a c-tran it is. this was approved in 2011. it is part of the entire

development as a whole. over the next couple months residents can think how this program could work for you. i did hear a lot of comments. they are good. what about home care workers to visit, family members that need services? it is all good feedback for us to hear. we have to address it. i just want to make sure residents are thinking along the lines of not just opposing it for opposing it but coming up with ideas to make it work for all of us. in the long-term we will discover new revenue streams. that is not likely. we do have to really consider all of the feedback we got today, but moving to the goal of having a tolling program come into place. at this time we have commissioners to speak. first commissioner ronen, chen n

commissioner fewer. >> if we could go back to the toll portion of revenue have you parsed that between current residents and businesses and the projected new residents and businesses? >> for the first 500 units, the slide showing right now at that time, in essence i it includesea stipend as a cost. we are assuming that frankly there is the 600 some odd units there today, that they are still there in three years. we have an additional 500 units, about 1100 models. the travel command model calculates trips per household that is in essence. in that regard you are probably

close to about 50/50 split, 6040 split. new versus old. every year. right now the modeling and work with the development team in terms of the units sold is in the 500 plus units per year. you get to the five year mark 2500 units. that right now is the anticipated growth on the island. then projected from there to increase in the latter years. as we move forward we will work with the developing team and tida to better understand the marketing units sold. >> did you consider a model that would permanently grandfather the current residents in and where the funding gap would lie if it was a permanent grandfather? >> we have done some preliminary work on that. we would have to refine that.

we talked about options past the five year stipend period. we haven't had the time to do that right now. we will continue to do that. >> i thought the testimony was incredibly compelling and made a lot of sense. i would love to see what those numbers are, and, you know, make sure we exhaust other funding options before we make a decision on this. i really appreciate and support chair kim's willingness to continue this item and continue to study and do that outreach. i am feeling uncomfortable at this point. >> commissioner fewer. >> i appreciate you suggested we continue this item.

the idea of a toll doesn't actually it is well with me, esespecially with the current residents. it is not just about giving them two passes each day round trip passes. it is really about -- because my son had a friend on treasure island. i would drive him to her house and back and forth. they don't live in isolation. friends and family members come to see you, caregivers come on a daily basis. these are people that would have to pay the toll, not just the families. i don't know if he considered that. these families that live on the island there is a certain geographical isolation. iit is a hall to get there. it is an extra trip to get there. my son had the friend and i would drive him all the time to the island.

i think the idea the island is isolated geographically now we are proposing a toll to isolate them more from family and friends and loved ones. not to mention the arguments the small businesses gave, i think this is you just inherently not right. (applause). >> you you it is true there is nothing at the island. there is nothing there. you have to go into the city or oakland there. is nothing at the island. to say, we will give them a stipend for five years. five years goes so quickly. when you have a child in kindergarten and you know you will be on and off the island until they are in high school,

that five years is nothing. it goes by so quickly. i just want to say the proposal to have a ferry terminal, ac transit. how convenient is that for parents taking their kids in and out? ac transit may be good for development and people working at the sales force center and in the financial district. it is not practical for regular families. it is to work and back, but when you talk about livelihood and people's lives it is not just to the transit center and back where the ferry goes. the transportation has to reach all corners of san francisco to be robust. living in the west side i know that is not true. i just am really glad we are going to take a little pause on

this. regardless, i mean i think that we are going to have development there, which i also am questionable to me personally i am afraid of sea level rise and only one entrance in and out of treasure island and the fact of ththeoofthe slickwi fiction. i am a worrier. i thank commissioner kim. i want to rebut the public comment that commissioner kim does not care about the community. that is absolutely not true. when i was on the school board i can't tell you how many calls i got from commissioner kim about the families and the bus routes from treasure island to the schools in san francisco. she was repeatedly e-mailing me, calling me, advocating for the

families for transportation to our public schools in san francisco. that is simply not true that commissioner kim does not care. she cares deeply. i just want to say thank you, commissioner kim, for asking that this be postponed. >> that is only partially true. then commissioner fewery ponded to make sure we got the buses. thank you for always responding to my calls. commissioner mandelman. >> i think it is good we are going to give staff more time to think about this and work on this. i do have concern as we think about congestion pricing more broadly. at the last meeting or two meetings back, we directed staff to move forward on thinking

about congestion pricing within the seven by seven square miles in san francisco. you know, if we are going to do this the san francisco way we need to think of ways to address the equity concerns around the congestion pricing and tolling because i don't think there is the appetite on this board to impact low-income people. we want to protect the low-income people from the impacts of this stuff. on the other hand the tools for reducing traffic congestion are so limited by the state i am leery on giving up on this as a potential strategy. i hope we can move forward and think about equity and how to take care of low income folks on treasure island and any as where we think about congestion pricing. i hope we don't give up on the

idea of congestion pricing at all. >> thank you. i don't see any other commissioner on the roster to speak. a couple things. my comments are similar. i am a strong supporter of overall congestion management. this plan is only focused on one neighborhood. we don't ask any other neighborhood to pay a toll to improve transportation services to their neighborhood. if it is a toll, it should be on everyone. while we should address equity for our low and middle class residents, there is currently inequity. many of the low income communities live in the neighborhoods around freeways and have to breathe the air of the cars in and around and across the neighborhoods. the cost of the congestion

pricing or air they breathe, there is an equity in which communities bear the brunt of bad air. some are in san francisco. one you have the most effective tools is to ask people to pay for it and invest in better public transportation for everyone to get people out of the codes and into other transportation if it is muni or bikes or the ferry. i am a huge supporter of the ferry. it is difficult to fund without did you tolls. there is going to need to be a longer and better conversation with residents to make a program like this work. i would like to see a grandfathering issue. when you visit treasure island those not in below market rate

units are working class. it is isolated and there is a lot of development slated to come over time, although it hasn't happened in my eight years in office so i think there is a little skipticism on my part how quakily this will happen. the residents are without the amenities they need without a grocery store, after school program, school, things that will come with the new residential development as well. we need to provide the best transportation services to the island. if we have a program like this. i want to see a time wher where tolling doesn't occur. people need options. it should be in hours without congestion on the bridge. it is clear from members of the public and commissioners we have

to continue this vote to allow more time for outreach to happen. supervisor elect will be coming in and this will happen over his tenure and i think it makes sense for him to be helping accountable to a policy he is voting on versus one that i have voted on. i will take a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair. supervisor brown made that motion. supervisor yea yee has seconded. i take it without objection. cheese call item 6 and 7. >> item 6 new information and item 7 public comment. >> any new items. >> public comment on number 6 and general public comment as well. no public comment we are closing

public comment. mr. clerk any other items before the committee. >> item 8 adjournment. >> the meeting is adjourned. .

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good afternoon. it is now 10:00 1:00 p.m. this is the regular meeting of the community investment and infrastructure for tuesday, december 18, 2018. welcome, members of the public. please call the first item. >> the first order is item one, roll call. please respond when i call your name. (roll call). >> commissioner singhs