i just want to say,. >> shade, oh, my gosh. >> i just wanted to say, i think that what will determine much of what we can do and how we do it is how this charger, at the state level is written. and it is really important for us, as san francisco, to have a voice in our expectations of what this charger will actually help us deliver. i think when we talk about the finances, it is important that however, i believe we are doing this in san francisco because it is the right thing to do and that we cannot rely on these big banks anymore that eat up the little banks and invest in all these things that we feel as san franciscans are destroying the world and our communities. i know that is very complex. i know there are limitations to what we can do. i think this is a good first start.

i would love to have a conversation broadened around models, but also about what we hope to deliver, and i also want to thank you for all of your work, and molly, and all the advocates are pushing this conversation. i think in 70 years, i will be dead, just f.y.i., i am 61. i am hoping that we can bring this to the city and county of san francisco, especially because, instead of investing in these things that we all don't believe in, we start investing in our city and the people that we do believe in. thank you very much. i don't want to hold a public comment because i know this hearing has been long. thank you. >> thank you. >> my apologies to you supervisor if fewer. supervisor stephanie. >> briefly i want to thank you for your presentation. this is one of the first hearings are participated in after being appointed supervisor

and i'm excited to be in a second hearing about it. i'm excited about the possibilities. i just want to reiterate my concern does not concern, but my advice in terms of the city i.d. program. and being county clerk for two years and overseeing the program and seeing what potential that has in terms of allowing people to bank in situations where it might be difficult for them to do so, i think the bank is a really good way for us to work with the i.d. program and the evil that need that service. i want to reiterate that. thank you very much. >> thank you. at this time, there is no budget legislative analyst reports because this is just a hearing. i would like to go to public comment and open it up and hear from the public. i have something very specific i want you to speak to when it comes to public comment.

let me look at my notes here. when view --dash we are opening it up for public comment, is it possible if the commenters could state which model that they like , that was presented today, if you could state which model you like or policy priorities you want to see moving forward. thank you. that is it. >> okay. this is ace again. this is interesting. i go back further than anyone in this chamber here on this banking situation. i don't know if you all know about what we know about redlining and with the bank stand. supervisor, i want to commend you for bringing this issue forward. this is one of the things we will remember you for for bringing to the legislation. banking. here we go again. outmigration. knew some, who is a governor, knows all about that because he put together five points on

economic development for as an economic development was one of them. let me say this for the history. my wife worked in the bank of america for 20 years. she retired. i also have an economic specialist that works with me for over 20 years. i will bring him on board. i would like to get the paperwork from you of everything have everything you talked about here. thank you. thank you for doing this. let me inform you, we, as black folks, in again appears because a black metaphysical to sleep as a black man of the wake up as a black man and in this corner is the black woman. the bottom line is all these people get up and i don't see anyone up there -- let me just say this. the red line, the c.r.a., i don't know if you remember 20 years ago, the community reinvestment act pickers put together because of redlining. you all knew we were coming up here. i'm 64. i'm old enough to be your father's. most of the all. we were involved way back with ricky graham. he is a specialist in me will have them come back to speak.

i want to know about all this information. all your taskforces and all this kind of stuff. one thing is for sure. this people that look like me. i'm sure they ain't on your committee. people like me have been designated does not designated, we have been destroyed because of the banking system. the c.r.a., community reinvestment act. i am glad this is back. when i get this information we will review everything. my name is ace and i am on the case. ricky graham will be handling this. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm really pleased to be here at this hearing, in just a little background, as far as i'm concerned, i was at the first alan brown meeting that discussed banking at a small cafeteria in the east bay, decades ago. so i've done -- i've been really watching this process for some time.

i don't have an opinion, because i don't have enough information to have an opinion on which of the models is most appropriate. however, i would like to add one idea that i have not heard today and this was one of the ideas. the alan brown public banking -- >> who is ellen brown class. >> ellen brown class. >> yes. >> she was the one who started the public banking concept and has been pushing it worldwide for some time now. >> thank you. >> she started by writing the book. now she has another book out. anyway, she has -- i think she has a radio program twice a week or it may be it is even on t.v. i don't know. i'm surprised you don't know about ellen brown. >> i don't get out much. >> one of the ideas they had that i not heard today was to buy an existing bank, to start a

public bank by buying an existing bank, so that's just an idea you might consider once you look into it, or may be you have to buy the entire bank. may be you just invest heavily so you have control of the policies that the bank has. that is another idea you might look into. thank you. >> thank you. hello. >> i'm introducing myself to you in my grandmother's language because that is where it all starts for as. is at least for this coalition in san francisco, the public bank coalition started with seeing the effect of our money being invested by wall street banks. the fact was my relatives who drink their water from the missouri river, they are now facing a potential emergency situation with the pipeline. this is just one of the many decisions that we know wall

street has made to, and certainly and not does not in line with the balance of san franciscans. as far as the models go, our coalition has articulated our vision for public banks, which includes affordable housing, student loans, green energy, which produces green jobs, and small businesses. every single week we see a business closing because they can't afford the rent. every single day we see people on the streets living on greats because they are not housed. we had ash in the air for a full 1212 weeks almost because our climate is changing. san francisco has the opportunity here to be a leader and put his money where his mouth is. we are here because these models , while they are great starts, molly has been really great as far as putting money and numbers towards the models, but none of them really encapsulate all that we want to, specifically there's no mention whatsoever about the pool investment fund which is the $9 billion we are talking about.

they will go on to articulate why we don't disagree with those , with as a general idea. thank you. >> thank you. >> hello. my name is curtis. i am with the public bank coalition. in regards to the report, i would like there to be more focused on green energy. it wasn't included on the line item. on the cave w., which is a public bank in germany, they are the largest financing of green energy in the whole world. i guess the bank f. k. fw that would be great if we could reach out to them. i would like to be included in the modelled investment fund to, because we want every penny out of wall street. government structure, i don't know if there's enough time to talk about that, may be another government agency that could take it over and pick up the ball. may be we could study about governance. we have a draft of what the structure could be. we are more than happy to show that.

state license, we definitely want there to be a state charter license. i think, we are part of the california public bank alliance and they are working on the charger. i think we are agreeing that we just want to see it very simple. a bank that is owned by a public entity. so that's a resolution that could be passed at the next new board meeting. pass a resolution urging the state to create a charter with that language. and let the local city his decide on and principles. task force, i think would be great if there could be an appendix for the task force members to see where they fall on issues. there are some advocates on there and there are also some people i don't think that are for it. i wish the task force was televised. that would be awesome. in regard to the cost, i agree with what was being said about thinking big picture. the question as it relates to medicare for all, is not how much it will cost, it is how much it is costing us not to

have a public bank. that would be a great report to see. the fees alone, i think it is like a million dollars. that is lost opportunity cost on what we could be investing. thank you so much. thank you for all your help. >> next. >> hello. i am a registered nurse and i am with the california nurses association. we are here to support a public bank for san francisco and specifically, to request the treasurer's office, and specifically to create a clear path forward in creating a public bank for san francisco. we want to go big. we don't want to go small. our vision is big and our vision is for the future of the city and for the future of america. it goes -- because what san francisco does, we can be leaders for other cities that are trying to do this exact same thing. as nurses, our gender is this --dash our agenda is this. community health and well-being.

the way we are doing our banking system right now, communities are being affected. it is 2018, in the city of san francisco continues to do business with corporations that finds dirty polluting pipelines across indigenous land. we continue to fund climate change, which is the biggest threat to all life on this planet. it is not happening in a distant future. it is happening now. we continue to fund, with our taxpayer money,, to back fire arms. the c.d.c. just released a report this last week that 40,000 americans last year were shot and killed in america. over 1,000 of those are children when we talk about how much will this cost the city to create a bank, let's talk about how much we are funding in these communities that are being destroyed by exploitation, oppression and pollution? we can talk about the cost of that because that far out costs what it cost to create a sustainable banking system that

is founded on justice, equity and equality. that is what we are asking for. we want a banking system that changes the status quo. right now, the status quo does not work for the majority of us. the status quo is exploitation and property --dash profiting off that exploitation. we want to change to a sustainable -- >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello. my name is janice. i am associated with the banking s.f. public main coalition. i just want to say, commenting on what i heard today, if you think about going bigger going small, having worked as a software engineer for 30 years, going small never gets you anywhere. usually does not scale any of the tear it up and start over. it cost you more in the long run go big. in the meantime, having a public bank will save adversity on our city. i want to live in a diverse city thanks. >> thank you.

>> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is winston. i am a born and raised san franciscan and board member of the democratic club here today. to support efforts to create a public bank, i think we should be looking even beyond what we have been presented. frankly, it is absurd to me that ten years after the '08 financial crisis and we are still paying banks who committed some of the largest fraud in human history to manage our taxpayer dollars. they are not trustworthy, and we don't have public oversight or control over where money is going. we deserve public accountability for our tax dollars. additionally, a large portion of public dollars for projects are spent on bond debt, and if we had a public bank, we can eliminate the wall street intermediary. and pass the savings on to taxpayers, student loans, small business loans, affordable housing programs, all using existing credit unions, and community banks.

is incredible to me that north dakota has had a similar model and had a bank for almost 100 years. this is something we seem to be struggling with. if north dakota can figure this out, so can we. we deserve public accountability we deserve and demand a public bank. please advance this measure. thank you. >> next speaker. >> good afternoon. thank you so much for holding this hearing. my name is brandon. i am a member of the san francisco richmond democratic club where -- we are members of the coalition. i wanted to thank supervisor cohen. i love to go big. we should go big. we are the most wealthy city and the most wealthy state and the most wealthy country in the world. we can absolutely have a public bank that is built on equity. we know that in 2008, wall street basically transferred wealth from the 90 9% to the top

1% that took a bunch of working-class people in mostly communities of colour, housing, livelihoods, dreams, and made themselves more wealthy. the accountability that the government had over that was very sparse. we did not see many people actually go to jail for this horrible tragedy that happened to the working-class. congress is chipping away at the -- they voted to deregulate banks even more. this is our opportunity to make sure we have a bank that is accountable to the community and not accountable to the top 1% of income were earners who are out for themselves. this can be a bank that is focused on equity, focused on building affordable housing, so housing people rather than taking houses from people. we can model this after banks in germany like loans to create more green energy. we really want to see this bank

go forward. i'm excited to have such wonderful advocates for this banking project and i look forward to continuing working with all of you. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is preston. i'm a resident of the richmond district. i'm here as someone who is in favour of democratic control of the capital surplus. everyone who has spoken, -- so far is in favour of a public bank. when i heard you speaking earlier, i thank you recognize the radical potential and the legacy that we can leave. not only for the future, but what we can achieve right now in the coming years at public banks as the gentleman who spoke first pointed out, he saw a lack of representation of himself and his community, and i want to address that challenge to making sure that the commission that creates a public bank and ultimately the way the bank is governed, must be extremely

expensive and democratic so we can represent all the communities in san francisco, especially the most marginalized , especially those who had the fewest resources. ultimately, if we have a truly democratic public bank that the city can establish with these funds, we are talking about a 9 billion-dollar or greater public investment funds that everybody in san francisco can have. how many people in san francisco have access to that kind of money? if we can build that stuff together, we can reinvest in communities that are not profitable to invest in or don't have a great return on -- on investment by highly capitalized banks. and a further issue is that we currently spends about $68 million a year simply paying back the interest and debt on our bonsai we take from outside banks. why are we burning that kind of money when we could have no barrier to spending the money on what we can spend as san franciscans?

thank you very much. >> thank you. >> hello. i am a resident of d1. i'm here in favour to speak of the public bank. specifically, i wanted to mention the mission, which is to establish a municipal owned bank in san francisco rooted in the principles of racial, social, economic and environmental justice. i wanted to add that out of the three models, none of them are adequate to meet that mission. specifically with the green jobs that we would like to see created, and it would be like a little green new deal. i did want to reiterate what preston just said about governance. specifically we know that if we have elected officials constantly putting people in power to oversee banks, we may

see a reiteration of what happened at wall street. so to avoid that, i want to see a lot of democratically elected people, community members, banking experts, so we can have a more direct access. if they go out of line, or choose profits over people, we can rein that back in. i would also like to see the board of supervisors put this on the ballot in 2019 as a charter amendment. that can be done with plenty of time. we will all be ready to work on it. thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. from s.f. public bank coalition. i would like to thank the committee and thank the chair for calling this hearing. i really appreciate jericho in's line of questioning, and the comments -- chair cohen's line

of questioning. we need to put pressure on state lawmakers as well. there's a lot going on. there's so much going on in this world. i was watching the u.n. climate meeting, in the sec. journal -- and the sec. journal -- general said the most important decisions are no longer taking of the government government level capital taken out regional and local level. you hear all the time in politics and community organizing, all politics is local, think globally, act locally, what better way to act locally, them to create a public bank clot if money and power go hand-in-hand, money follows power and power follows money, we need to wrestle the money from the powers that be and localize the money and build our own power. why are we giving our money away to thieves and murderers because that is what they do.

we are in the midst of a climate crisis and a housing crisis. with advocates rights and the civil justice crisis. it is obliterating our neighbourhoods and communities. the bank of north dakota has been making record profits. in the last 20 years, they quadrupled their profits. and one of the things that we didn't see his student loans -- over 30% of the bank of north dakota portfolio his student loans. that is some of the lowest loans in the country. and the right of return -- rate of return at the bank of north dakota is one and a half%. >> thank you. >> we have the money. let's go. >> next speaker. >> hello. my name is gus. i am a district eight resident and here to speak on the half of the nurse's association. we are very proud to be

supporters of nsf public bank. nurses see patients every day who are struggling because of environmental degradation, lack of sufficient housing, and lack of regular and consistent preventative healthcare. nurses know how having a public bank could be critical to solving many of these issues. we have seen, for fire too long, our tax dollars going into the coffers of banks like wells fargo, bank of america, who have been turning those investments over to oil companies, and two weapons manufacturers and other entities that are only further feeling the health disparities in economic inequality in our great city. as i think we are all aware, san francisco is the most economically inequitable city in the country.

we can do a lot with a public bank. for example, on average the bank of north dakota has been able to pull in $40 million per year from their safe general fund and this alleviates taxpayer burden. we could do the same with the earnings of a municipal public bank in san francisco and earmarked those earnings for more social housing to solve the housing crisis. thank you. >> hello. i am a d6 resident and i work with d.s.a. thank you for holding this hearing and thank you for your time. the argument has been well articulated as to why we should have a public bank. as currently constructed, we are putting all of our resources in the control of people who have not shown the willingness to reinvest in the community. san francisco is increasingly becoming a two tear society, we must take action to restructure it so we can remain a safety and remain true to ideals. in terms of what gets money currently, there is a lot of money going on. the city is very wealthy.

he goes to very few projects. it is decided by so few people. a bank would allow us diversification by bringing everyone to the table and giving everyone a shot. we get better ideas and we are a better society. we are stronger together. this is everybody's city. everyone works towards it. by allowing everyone input into where resources go or a greater degree of input, we bring people with new ideas who are currently excluded to the table, and that can lead to wonderful things. in terms of cost, it is not very efficient as currently structured. there is a technical argument to be made that by bringing in people who are working not just for the bottom line and not just for stock return or shareholder return, we will do better for many people. not just a single column of profitability, but investing resources in a way that benefits us all and allows everybody a chance to thrive and reinvest their earnings back in the community. thank you for your time.

>> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is rick. i am a member of the san francisco coalition for public bank, and a member of you esf. i want to thank supervisor cohen for suggesting a public meeting. because i think the experts have been speaking. i think the people who have just been speaking know more about why we need a public bank than many of the people on that task force, frankly. i don't mean to say anything negative about the task force, i think it's been great. it has been convened. it is very important. i also would like to point out that in addition to the bank of north dakota, throughout the world, there are public banks. there are over 586 public banks -- sorry,, in the world, that control $35 trillion in assets. we are not doing anything new.

we are actually just joining with something that has been done for generations throughout the world. >> i'm sorry. how many coiffed. >> $35 trillion worth of assets are in 586 public banks. those figures are from the world bank. there's plenty of models. there's a public bank in costa rica, and there is public banks of people who are mentioned in brazil, in germany, from the advanced country, to the underdeveloped countries. there are public banks. so i think we can do it, and i agree with supervisor fewer that we have to push the state legislation. i understand representative weiner is supportive of it. i think that that is where we need to go. we just need to make it happen. think big. thank you so much for setting that stage. i think we will continue on and hopefully you will have something to look back on that you accomplished.

>> thank you. next speaker. >> hello. i would also like to speak in support of the san francisco municipal bank that would divest from wall street and its investments and the climate genocide and fuel industries. very credible results have been released recently. we want to secure future for ourselves and not just for our children. and reinvest green energy. we can lead the way. i also want to raise the issue of student loans. there are thousands of san franciscans shouldering unjust debts. in early 2015, the bank of north dakota's rates were true% for a

variable right student loan and 5% for a fixed right student loan. at a substantially lower than the 10-15% rates typical of most private student loans. they also have debt forgiveness programs for teachers and staff schools in the municipal bank. they should provide low-cost student loans to help san franciscans get out of debt. i will echo the gentleman that just spoke as well. if the task force that is so graciously convened takes on this project needs help, whether staffing or research -- research or resources, there are incredibly capable experts in this room who have taken off their jobs, committing their full-time to this project. i'm sure they would be happy to help. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. we appreciate the feedback. is there anyone else would like to comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor fewer, parting

thoughts class. >> i know this has been a long hearing. i just want to say this. it is time for a public bank in san francisco. there is no economic justice, no social justice without economic justice. it is time to have a public bank for public good. and i want to thank the advocates are coming out in the treasure's department for all the work. this is work that my office is committed to deepening and furthering. i look forward to partnering with you. but it is time, san francisco is a place where we leave -- lead the nation and we do it first and then they follow. we are not going to follow north dakota, quite frankly. but we can learn from them. we want to create something that other communities are hungry to re-create also for their communities. we can use the money to invest not in things that we don't believe in that oppress other people, that we can invest in as san franciscans that actually are overdue for investment. thank you for coming out. if i don't see everyone,, happy

holidays and happy 2019. >> thank you supervisor. come on, you guys know the rules all right. let me get in here. i want to acknowledge our former colleague, who worked in the last two years of his life here on the board of supervisors. although he didn't technically pass on the baton to me, i certainly picked it up. this is a good direction that we should continue to explore and i'm proud that supervisor fewer has agreed to take on the baton and carrying the conversation here at this body. i want to reiterate this as is a project that i do believe in. i think i will not be here to hear the report. perhaps he will take my call when i asked for an update. i don't know. but i just want to say that this is something that i will be monitoring very closely. i was pushing for a public bank a charger on a statewide level. i will be transitioning and

going to a statewide office. i will be advocating and examining the role of state banking and the tax system. we heard a comment about the tax system and there is a strong correlation about how taxes are levied for and against people. and i want to also continue to push to think big, and i hope that the final report will be able to look at a way to create more bite sized interim programs that can help us achieve policy goals in the near future. i do definitely look forward to what is happening moving forward to. thank you for getting us this far. thank you a big thanks to josé who also is part of this conversation. i know that he has diverse opinions on a diverse perspective on the task force. god bless you guys for corralling and getting it all together. public comment reflects one

sentiment and i recognize there are other people who have strong views that are not here, but they have e-mailed and they have written, and they are -- their feedback will be incorporated in the report, as well as in the file for this item. i want to thank sophia who has joined me, and who has just taken up the helm on this project. in my notes, i did neglect to ask a question. it was how we considered buying a small bank rather than starting one from scratch. i think we could probably take a page out of the big banks and how they buy banks and perhaps we should look into making that level of investment and exploring it. thank you for educating this body. i did not know that there were 586 public banks pick did not realize that there was $35 trillion tied up and being managed by public banks. this is actually some very inspiring news. it gives me hope. if others can do it, it makes

you feel like we could do it. particularly when you think of other nations than that -- that have less than what we have. i think we need to be creative to find a way to get us there so we can do it. we also want to remember we don't want to get there by their his gross -- by ourselves. we want other counties to also be there enjoining as and ultimately in the state of california. so i am going to close out this hearing. if there's nothing else, no other names that are on the roster, i would like to continue this item, supervisor, so if you want to hear it in the future, you can. we will continue to the call of the chair back madame clerk, with that, will take that unanimously. thank you. is her -- [cheering] >> leave it to you guys do not follow the rules. in all seriousness, is there any other sense before this body class. >> we are adjourned. thank you very much. [♪]

>> for the first time in nearly two decades fishers have been granted the legal right to sell fish directly to the package right off their boat -- to the public right off their boats in san francisco. it's not only helping local fishers to stay afloat but it's evoking the spirit of the wharf by resurfacing the traditional methods of selling fish. but how is it regulated? and what does it take for a boat

to be transported into a floating fish market? find out as we hop on board on this episode of "what's next sf." (♪) we're here with the owner and the captain of the vessel pioneer. it's no coincidence that your boat is called the pioneer because it's doing just that. it's the first boat in san francisco to sell fish directly from the boat. how did you establish your boat into such a floating fish market? >> well, you know, i always thought that it would be nice to be able to provide fresh fish to the locals because most of the fish markets, you would have to do a large amount of volume in order to bring in enough fish to cover the overhead. when you start selling to the public that volume is much less so it makes it hard to make enough money. so being able to do this is really -- it's a big positive thing i think for the entire community. >> a very positive thing. as a third-generation fisherman

joe as his friends call him has been trawling the california waters for sustainably caught seafood since an early age. since obtaining a permit to sell fish directly to the public he is able to serve fish at an affordable price. >> right now we're just selling what a lot of the markets like, flat fish and rock fish and what the public likes. so we have been working for many, many years and putting cameras in them. there's the ability to short fish and we have panels that we open and close so we target the different species of fish by adjusting the net. and then not only that but then the net sort out the sizes which is really important. >> joe brings in a lot of fish, around 20,000 pounds per fishing trip to be exact. >> we had one day one time that we sold almost 18,000 pounds. >> it's incredible. >> i know, it's hard to imagine. >> but this wasn't always the case for joe. >> the markets that we have left in california, they're few and far between, and they really are

restrictive. they'll let you fish for a couple months and shut you down. a lot of times it's rough weather and if you can't make your delivery you will lose your rotation. that's why there's hardly any boats left in california because of the market challenges. my boat was often sitting over here at the dock for years and i couldn't do anything with it because we had no market. the ability to go catch fish is fine, i had the permits, but you couldn't take them off your boat. >> that was until the port commission of san francisco rallied behind them and voted unanimously to approve a pilot program to allow the fish to be sold directly to consumers right off their boats. >> the purpose of the program is to allow commercial fishers to sell their fish directly from their boats to the end consumer in a safe and orderly manner for the benefit of the overall fishing community at the port of san francisco. we have limited the program to certain types of fish such as salmon, halibut, tuna and rock

fish. crab is restricted from this program because we did not want to interfere with the existing crab sales on taylor street and jefferson street. so this is not meant to favor one aspect of the fishing industry more than another. it's to basically to lift up the whole industry together. >> and if joe the program has been doing just that. >> it was almost breathtaking whenever i woke up one morning and i got my federal receiver, my first receivers license in the mail. and that gave me permission to actually take fish off my boat. once we started to be able to sell, it opened things up a bit. because now that we have that federal permit and i was able to ppetition the city council and getting permission from san francisco to actually use the dock and to sell fish here, it was a big turning point. because we really didn't think or know that we'd get such a positive response from the public. and so we're getting thousands of people coming down here

buying fish every week and so that's pretty cool. they like the fish so much that they take pictures of it when they cook it and they send us all of these pictures and then they ask us, you know, constantly for certain types of fish now. and when they come down here the one thing that they say is that they're so amazed that the fish is so fresh they could eat a little bit during the week and it's still fresh all week in the refrigerator. so that's really cool. >> the fish is very fresh and the price is super. i don't think that you can get it anywhere in the bay area. i can see it, and i can stir fry it, wow, you can do anything you want. i just can say this is a good place to shop and you have a good experience. >> this program supports the strategic plan in terms of engagement, people being connected to the waterfront, and also economic vitality.

because it's helping the fishermen to make ends meet. they have no guarantees in their businesses, not like some people, and we want to do everything that we can to help them to have a good and thriving business. >> how does it feel to be able to sell your fish locally kind of in the traditional way, like your grandfather probably did? >> when i was a kid and i used to work in my dad's fish market, a lot of the markets that we sell to now are second and third and fourth generation markets. so i remember as a kid putting their tags on the boxes of fish that we shipped out of monterey and ship down to l.a. so it's kind of cool that we're still dealing with the same families. and this is probably about the only way that anyone can really survive in california is to sell your own fish. >> one of the advantages of this program is the department people that pull in the fish, they can find out where they caught it and find out more about the

fisherman and that adds to their experience. the feedback from the fishers has been very good and the feedback from the customers have very good. and there's a lot of people coming to the wharf now that might not have done so. in fact, there's people that go through the neighboring restaurants that are going to eat fish inside but before they go in they see the action on the dock and they want to kind of look at what's happening on the boat before they go in and they have a meal. so it's generated some conversation down at the wharf and that's a good thing. >> as you can see by the line forming behind me getting ready to buy fish, the pilot program has been a huge success. for more information visit sfsport.com. (♪) (♪)

>> vice president williams,. >> here. i can two his approval of the minutes of the november 13th, 2018 meeting. >> so moved. >> second.