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series of habitats and plants. there is a diagram from several years ago, and this is showing some of the i have been foo, like really robust, tract native plant communities that were on the island, and those are all still there? that purple one, those are the california buckeyes that i showed a picture of earlier. most of these -- all of these are kind of outside of the development areas except for a few areas of coast boxwood. and then, the other part of the island was covered in nonnative eucalyptus woodland, and as part of the construction, we've been removing those. most of those are also gone, with the intention of removing eucalyptus with the intent of removing live coast woodland. so those areas that we're going to be restoring now.
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this is some pictures of the kind of plants that are native coast live oakwoodland. and as part of the habitat restoration, we've been collecting seeds and cuttings on yerba buena iceland for the past several years. there's a native plant nursery on yerba buena island that recently moved to treasure island where they've been growing yerba buena native island plants that's going to be planted on yerba buena as part of the restoration. in these sections, the picture at the top, this kind of compacted earth trail, kind of 4 feet wide, this is the typical trail when i'm thinking about this trail, the open space master plan. those yellow trails are all going to be compacted earth and about 4 feet wide. there are a few other trails in the system that are concrete or part of the access road that goes out to the tanks, but most of the work that we're doing
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right now will be rustic and feel like you're out in nature. and this is some pictures of where we salvaged the eucalyptus on yerba buena island. we're using them to cut into pieces that we will use for furniture at the places where the viewpoints and lookouts around the trail system around the whole island. and then, we have also, in the land couple years, as we've seen construction start, we've been collecting the boulders from yerba buena island, this gray whacky sand stone, and these have been collected on treasure island now, and will be used as part of the trail system also. the existing stairs will stay as part of the trail system, and there'll be another series of proposed timber stairs in some places where we need to navigate some of the elevation change. in some places, we will be in
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places where we're kind of at the edge of a steep slope, so we'll have some edge protection in those places, kind of protect visitors. and the entire system will have signage about where you're going and how to get there, and signs posted at the intersection so that you can tell where you are and where you want to go. so that is the -- kind of the trails and the open space and the parks system that we're working on for yerba buena island? we're really excited to be doing this work, and we're excited that it's going to be developing this year. we're hoping we're going to be finished with permit documents by june, and permitted by september, and hoping to go to construction next year.
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thank you. >> president tsen: let me go to the board, but before i do, let me just say how incredible this project is to open up yerba buena island and have more access to the spectacular views that are really unparalleled anywhere. to have a hiking trail go by to the various points, it's just absolutely wonderful. brea breathtaking actually, so thank you for your work on this. i do have a question, and -- several. first of all, you know, the other thing that is going to make this quite marvelous is that we are having internationally known artists do work in the yerba buena gardens, and hiroshi sujimoto is going to have a spectacular
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sculpture. where is that sculpture going to be located? can you point out in the plan where that is going to be? >> hello. kevin conger with c.m.g. can they see the plan? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> okay. can you see my little pointer? it's here. it's inside the park that walter hood and hood studios -- >> right. and there's another plan, which is a bigger plan with the trails and the hillside top. do do -- could we look at that? >> that's better. so it's right here. it's right here, kind of right
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in the middle of the walter hood park. >> wonderful. >> and there's parking, there's public parking across the street from that and there's a shuttle stop across the street from there. it's a pretty robust hike to come across from the ferry terminal, but there'll be other ways for people to get up there. >> but what a wonderful pathway, and it's just -- you know, if you go out to land's end, which is another popular trail in san francisco, and you go there, like, during the holidays, it's just jammed with people who are wanting to be outside, looking at spectacular views, and i really believe this is going to be more spectacular. so with the artists, with the design, it's giving more access to the public. it's really a wonderful addition.
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you mention the bike path that comes from the east bay and the new bay bridge to the island, and there's a lot of discussion now about how to connect the western span of the bay bridge to san francisco. could you comment a little bit on that, please? >> yeah. the studies are happening a little bit parallel to our project, but the bike path cross -- basically -- let me go back to that slide with the bay trail on it so you can see how you get around. when you come off of the eastern span of the bridge, you're able to come down off the ramps over here, and you'll be able to circulate around this road, and then, there's going to be a way on the top side of the western span of the bridge that you can access and get down to the new bike path. it'll be on the north side of
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the western span. >> president tsen: mm-hmm. and if you are on treasure island, supposedly, if you came from san francisco, how would you get down to treasure island? >> the same -- the same way in terms of getting off of the bridge. i think we'll -- you'll need to connect -- the road will need to come back around, and then, you'll have both way bike lanes on it to get back down to treasure island. >> president tsen: so as you go through the design development, i would like you to look at that. i don't know if in fact the western span is going to be possible in terms of funding -- certainly in the future, but can you in your design thinking, think of a may where that to be made so we can do it if possible in the few tour if that's necessary. but all that you're doing, the plant propagation, the
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furniture, the salvaging of the logs, it's wonderful, and i really thank you for your efforts. so we have other commissioners that would like to speak, and miss richardson, please. >> what i would like to, for the next steps, the walkways. i think the walkways are going to be very significant. i know that you said that some of the walkways would be compacted earth. i would like a presentation on all of the walkways. we need to really brainstorm on the type of the walkways that we are going to have. i know that on this agenda today, we are going to be, you know, talking about, you know,
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what we observed and what we learned from the new york trip and also as we travel around the country and around the world and some of the iconic signature parks and open spaces because what we're really doing are a gold standard for others to emulate, and we already have precedents in other countries of significant nature parks. so what i would like, again, in this outstanding instance, every walkway, we really need to know -- and why am i asking this question? the natural elements, when you will have millions and millions of people on those walkways, so how do we maintain them, how do we have durability, and that's going to come to play here. and we want to make sure that we have the best materials in
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place because what we've learned in some of the places outside the country and in new york is that we need to build those into design elements now because what -- the kind of material you use, again, has implications on the type of cost and everything. so that -- the entire walkway, let's put that on the calendar. one of the other things that i want to echo has to do with sculpture. we have more than 320-something plus acres of open space. our open space is going to make the golden gate park look like a child's play. so as you travel in there, we want to view the sculpture as art. that's basically why the developer is putting 60 million, but we're also trying to augment other art made
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locally or regionally or internationally that we can place on those trails and the element, so that's part of the element. and you all need to work with us as we decide what will be the best for the area here. so that's going to be the further discussions. your timeline is in june, so hopefully, in february , we can begin to because what we are talking about here needs to be in the plan. i want to see the final plan that really show a particular walkway and some suggestions of what you suggest should be the type of materials for this walkway so that we can, when we get the final plans, then, we will know basically what we are talking about in order to deduce how much it's going to cost and how we're going to proceed. but what you've shown here is very creative, is very innovative, and i am so -- you know, i just want to thank you
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all for your work here. thank you. >> president tsen: mr. dunlop? >> secretary dunlop: thank you. first, a quick follow up on that statue that you were talking about. is that going to be visible from, let's say treasure island or the city, 'cause i didn't quite catch how tall it's going to be, and will it be lit and what the aspects of are of. >> president tsen: well, the arts steering committee and selection committee have been involved in the choices of the artists, and i think we're so incredibly just blessed that we have some great artists who did respond to calls for proposals. i think the one on yerba buena island at the very top is going to be by hiroshi sujimoto.
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he's world renowned. his sculpture will be seen from, i think, all different points, and it is called infinity, and it rises, i believe, about 60 feet, kevin. >> 66 feet. >> president tsen: 56 feet. >> 66 feet. >> president tsen: 66 feet. but it's called infinity because it goes from a space about 3 feet to 1.25 inches at the very top. but it's also great because it marks the seasons. at the equinox, the shadow will
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fall on a pile of stones in the park, and i'm sure it will be a gathering place for people at those times. what's wonderful about it, it does mark the seasons, it does mark time, and i am really looking forward to seeing that being fulfilled. >> and actually, i've seen it in prior meetings, but i wasn't quite sure about the visibility of it throughout the area, so it's going to be fairly visible. >> yes. >> can you see it from the embarcadero as you look towards y.b.i., i think? >> president tsen: what do you think, kevin? >> i think it's too narrow at the top. the parts that it's visible get narrow quite quickly. >> it's intended to be polished
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stainless steel. it's likely to disappear from a distance because it'll be reflecting the sky on it. >> president tsen: but it's infinity, right? infinity goes as high as the sky will allow. >> how nice, and i imagine there will be quite a few people there during equinoxes or solstice, so i hope we're well prepared -- prepared for that. people love those sort of things, and they can be really wonderful, or they can be a real big mess. so -- but we've got a little time for that one. i have a couple questions -- well, they mention the dog park, which boy, that looks like a great dog park. that's like a destination dog park, so i'm so happy for that. i've pushed for dog parks, and
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this sounds like wow, that's great. our city has a lot of good dog parks, but i don't think it'll -- we have anything that can compare with the views, not that the dogs really compare, but -- but the people do. it just really looks wonderful. we have a dog park current serving, but i think that -- wow, i'll be there every day with my dog. i was curious about a couple of questions about the eucalyptus. this is a while back when we talked about them. i lived on y.b.i., and i benefited from -- there was a big line of eucalyptus about where the water tanks are, and they were just so great because when the wind was whalinailing
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was just so nice and peaceful. they served a really important purpose, and they were talking about saving some of them, some that had, you know, some real purpose. is there going to be some plan around that? >> yeah. the ones you can see near the water tanks now, they're going to stay for the time being because they're also shielding the water tanks from further away. in here, they're kind of in here -- i don't know if you can see that plan. yeah, so they're sort of on this side of the tanks, and that's sort of outside of any of the construction area, so the places that we're not doing any of the construction work, it's going to take longer for us to remove the eucalyptus, and the other places will be replanted. >> that's great. we all know that eucalyptus are
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not native, and they tend to be potentially dangerous, and they grow like crazy, so another question about the eucalyptus, you're going to use them for furniture, which i think is brilliant, but we also know what some people like to do with wooden furniture and carve, paint, creative activity or noncreative activity. is there sort of a way you're going to be able to protect them so they don't become just destroyed within a year? >> hopefully, they're not destroyed within a year. but i think that taking care of all of this is part of the ongoing discussion that we're going to be having this year. but i wouldn't say there's a mag magic sealant that keeps keep
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from etching into wood, but there's something that -- keep, like, decaying and weathering. eucalyptus are actually really hardy and it takes them a while to decompose. >> okay. great. another question on the paths, it looks like a couple of paths go into the coast guard area, and did we have to sign some agreement with them or has that not been done yet? >> that is to come, but it's part of ongoing conversations we're having. >> okay. so we're not going to catch them by surprise and say hey -- okay. wonderful. yes, i'm really excited. this whole thing is just so -- what a great plan. you know, as i said, i lived on y.b.i., i loved it there. it's a very special place, and
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i think the work you're doing is going to make it even more so. just one more quick question, too, about the somewhat steep concrete stairs that are currently there and you're going to be keeping. they seem to have a potential danger because they themselves are -- it's a -- i think for somebody who isn't in some sort of shape, it could be -- they could trip or whatever. is there -- are you going to be -- you said, you know, you're going to keep them there, which is great, but some sort of restoration, and you know, some way, maybe even like a rail or something for people to hold onto. >> yeah. i mean, we're exploring them now to see what it takes to restore them, and there are some parts where they're broken, and the intention is to fix that, and we can talk about
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a rail. the other part with trail guidelines is that you are still in a rustic area, and you are meant to be doing some amount of physical activity, so part of those trail guidelines recommend that you tell people at the end of a trail, hey, you're about to go up a pretty steep slope so they're aware of the decisions they're making. there are other routes around the island that are less steep. you don't have to take those stairs, but in general, all of the stairs will be complying with the trail guidelines. >> thank you very much. >> yeah. >> just, again, your work is looking so great, so i can't wait. >> thank you. >> president tsen: mr. samada. >> commissioner samaha: great work. i have a few questions for you. first of all, this is y.p.i., and i see it pretty flushed out. what's happening with t.i.? what's happening with the
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treasure island open space trail plan? >> we are in -- finishing up final construction drawings on the treasure island phase one, which is the city side waterfront park, and the building that andy cochran is doing. they're all at 95% construction document and essentially almost ready to bid. there is subphase two, which is advancing right now into construction documents, so that's the area around building two and three, and the first section of the diagonal linear eastern common. and then, there is subphase three, which is at about the level that this is, kind of in design development now, which will be coming to you at some point when it's ready to go. so things are advancing, and as
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you know from the construction updates, things are also getting built right now, so it won't be long before those first phases on treasure island will be under construction, particularly those that are phasing back to san francisco from waterfront one. >> commissioner samaha: and they connect, the trails and the bike paths. >> yeah. they'll connect across the cause way. >> they'll connect across the cause way, which will be complete with the first phase, and connecting with everything that's existing now. we'll make sure that all the walkways connect with all the existing. it's going to be an interesting moment because you'll get a look at what's coming. where the first phase of the city side park incident faces with where merce is, because
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it's going to interact with the first phase of the waterfront park. >> commissioner samaha: i know you shared with us the timeline here, so when do we expect this to be completed, i guess, for yerba buena island, the trails? >> yerba buena island, they're hoping to have the trails and the parks talked about, and the other parks that are actually in phase one completed by june of next year. >> of next year, so, like, 1.5 years from now basically? got it. and then, just a couple of more questions. in terms of maintenance, i know you're going to have a maintenance plan through this. so do we already -- we probably already know who will be doing maintenance on the open space. >> they'll be part of some of our discussion later. so tida will be doing the maintenance, and part of what
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we're doing is developing standards of practice, standards of care and budgets built on those standards of care. but tida will be responsible for the maintenance, and one of the things we'll also need to do between now and then is go through the process of selecting a vendor to do that work on our behalf. >> commissioner samaha: all right. and just one final question. you mentioned for accessibility, federal standards. i'm just sort of curious. this is very hilly, a lot of stairs and hiking trails. i'm curious, how is accessibility provided here with the terrain that you have to work with >> so if you can put the map back up here. trail accessibility guidelines are a little bit different than typical accessibility on a sidewalk or park or something.
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there are parking areas at the top of the island, there are the shuttle stops, so you can reach the hill top park and the top of the island and any of the parks via the shuttles or a nearby accessible parking space, and then, the sidewalk to that is all accessible. trail accessibility guidelines can be actually much steeper. the slopes can go up to 40%. you can have steps, and so they're all -- it's just a more nuanced criteria. it's like land's end. the timber steps that i'm showing, those are part of the guidelines for accessible trails, and then you have the signage that let people know i'm going to be going up a path that traverses this much grade. the city access federal coordinator asked us to use
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this standard. >> commissioner samaha: treasure island is different, so they'll probably have wheelchair accessibility on trails and some areas, i would think. >> that's right. i'll just add to what jamie said. one of the reasons the city is looking to the federal guidelines for guidance is because the national park service has just gone through lengthy litigation around accessibility and struggles with what is the right amount of access around these trails and they've struggled with that and built those trails out at land's end, and they've been well received by the community and everyone. so those are kind of the standards that are being applied to yerba buena island. and linda, when we come back and talk about the trail materiality, we're also using best practices and research that the park service has been using for durability and
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maintenance and what are the right types for those facilities. >> commissioner samaha: thank you. >> president tsen: i would say one of the special reasons of being in the bay area and san francisco is these rustic hiking paths and trails. i can't think of many other cities that have that juxtaposition of being in the city but also being these -- having these rustic nature paths that you can go on, and to keep that character is one of our landmarks, right? so i'm glad that we'll be able to ad the accessibility of some of our trails but keep the rustic part of being in nature, so it's a great combination. miss lai? >> chief financial officer lai: thank you. first question is for bob, actually. is the restoration of these trails fully funded? >> so these trails are all
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developer obligations, so nyea, these are all nticd's trails budget. also they're part of the subphase application and part of the transfer of the development parcels in the subphase, we have development bonds securing the construction of these by ticd. >> chief financial officer lai: okay. so far, the design of it, the developer is still finding it to be in budget and we're okay financially on it? >> i might invite kevin up to potentially comment on their budget challenges, but yeah, they are -- they're working to their budget program, yeah. >> chief financial officer lai: oh, perfect. thank you for doing that. it looks amazing. just want to make sure it can be delivered. actually, it's the first comment for you guys. thank you so much for all your work. i particularly appreciate the new clipper cove stair.
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it's very thoughtful having that landing transition between the sand and the stair. it's so challenging, i have to say, like, taking kids there, and actually that last step, existing step is really tall, too, and there's no one to dump out the sand in your hshoe, so i'm fairly sure these will be used by families. are we planning for look outs, and dog parks, some water? >> i think the more developed system like hill top park and the dog park and beach park will all have water fountains as part of that. [please stand by]
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learned in the prior subdivision application and permitting process. so they had a base of design report which subsidized the criteria that they were using in preparing this application and into these construction documents. so we're hoping that should go smoothly. and then following the approval of the subdivision application, they will be in the permit process. and we again per the mayor's executive director, the goal here is to approve -- to go from initial application or initial permit submittal through final maps and permits within nine months. and we've already begun the mapping project for this next sub-phase which actually is fairly complex because we have to do two trust exchanges with the state lands commission as
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part of the mapping process, moving the properties into and out of the trust. so we have begun that process. so i mentioned that, you know, we're talking about what's within the scope of this sub-phase application and this is the major phase diagram as it was set up in the d.d.a. and part of the sequencing or the phasing of development was to include open space obligations contiguous with the development to make sure that some of that open space has been delivered as the island has been built out. and as part of this application we're adding in some different open spaces, substituting for what you can see on kind of -- out on the northern edge of the eastern side of the initial
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sub-phase, the major phase application and the d.d.a. originally envisioned that the first part of the agricultural farm would be the first naiz. and instead we're substituting in the eastern shoreline park, including the footprint where the sailing center will operate and as well as a band along what will be fourth street near the sports parks so that we can provide the storm water gardens that are needed for the treatment and the management of storm water flows from the sub-phase area. and part of the reason for that is also where the agricultural farm will be is currently where we're managing the soil stockpile on the island and so that area is not really available to us at this time anyhow. but i think that the eastern shoreline park would be a greater asset for the park as we
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build out. and another thing that tcid is including in this major phase application is -- this is, again, a segment of the phasing diagram. we had this area 3-c which is a small pocket between the job property and major phase one. and part of the reason that was in the third major phase is part of what is supposed to be there are two parking garages and the future police and fire station. and per the requirements in the schedule of performance, those facilities aren't required to be built for a few more years yet. but when looking at the challenges of looking at the geotechnical improvement to the site and the building of the utilities underneath the roadway it makes sense to include this zone within this major sub-phase abare application so it can be completed and the geotechnical work can be completed for the
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same time. so they're including both 3-c area which i said was part of major phase three in this sub-phase application. the expectation is that, you know, those spaces where the parking garages will be in the future may be used as surface parking lots until the parking garages are needed. but that the schedule of performance will still drive when -- when these -- when the vertical development of those parcels would occur. the other thing that happens as an opportunity including in this major phase is, again, you see that diagram and between avenue d and avenue c which are the lower portions of this diagram, there are three parcels. and i see 4.1 is where the new
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police/fire station will be constructed. and ic-4.2, was to be an affordable housing site and ic-4.5, the largest of the two parcels, was a parking garage. what we discussed instead with them is to expand the entire distance between the two streets, but making it more narrow. and as a parking garage, having access to both streets will function better but it will also allow us to connect ic-4.2 which is our affordable housing site with ic-4.3 which is also a type of affordable housing parcel to create a larger affordable housing parcel that we can then develop as either a single site or split into two sites according to our programming needs. and so it's just a way to kind
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of to give us more efficiencies in the development of our two parcels and also to make the garage operate better as well. and then another thing they wanted to highlight is that because we're now bringing that additional parcel from phase three into major phase one, that there's a second affordable housing parcel that has been programmed in the d.d.a. in the major phase application which is ic-2.2, which is -- if you look at the orange parcels on this map or the affordable housing parcels, the smallest one there along california across from the western corner of hangar three is ic-3.2. at .4-acres it's really suboptimal for a stand-alone
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affordable housing development. we could potentially construct it in conjunction and operate it in conjunction with e-1.2 which is the larger parcel across the street from it, but at this point we're recommending to make that a developer parcel in exchange for a more appropriately sized parcel in a future phase. by bringing 4.2 from major phase 3 into this first major phase we're keeping the number of affordable housing parcels in this phase the same. and we're always giving -- this is a win-win with ticd in terms of giving them more flexibility in how they program and develop that block of ic-2. so that's also going to be reflected in the sub-phase application. and as i said i just wanted to
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highlight these kind of bookkeeping changes or mapping changes because a lot of our discussion is focused on the design elements and this is really more related to the phasing and the mapping. i will take any questions. >> president tsen: thank you very much, bob. can you tell us when the application will actually come to the board for approval? >> well, it's -- the approval authority is the directorial approval after we get input from the various agencies, but we'll get copies of it distributed to the board members next week and we'll be providing updates in february and march. it will be around the time of the april board meeting that we would be looking to finalize the approval. >> president tsen: um-hmm. does it go to any of the authorities after the tida. does it go to the board of supervisors?
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>> now it's strictly a tida approval. when it comes time to get to the final maps and those are director of works and surveyor recommendations approved by the board of supervisors. and the street improvement permits are issued by the department of public works, but -- so there are other agencies involved in the january 2020 timeframe, but in terms of the subphase application auto a staff level comment from the various agencies and then administrative approval. >> president tsen: thank you very much. so we'll open it up to the board. mr. dunlop, please. >> just two quick questions. the first one -- does this subphase approval -- does that include the toll issue or is that separate or later?
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>> this is -- the subphase application is primarily an infrastructure design related document. it does include some of the mapping type of details like i just discussed. but the tolling discussion, that's a separate avenue and that's ultimately an action by the treasure island mobility management agency commission which is the board of supervisors wearing a different hat. >> thank you. and then, gosh, one of your diagrams it noted a 65-foot height limit. do we have buildings in that first phase that are going to be that tall? or is that just, you know, something that you have to put in to keep it in case? >> i'll go back and look at that. but we have buildings in the first subphase that are on treasure island that, you know,
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the infrastructure is under development right now. is this the parcel? yes, i think that this is... so in the first subphase that's under construction we have one parcel zoned up to 450 feet in the first subphase. most of the area that is in this second subphase is -- has a general height limit of 65 feet. and then -- but it has the opportunity and the entire zone is under what is called flex zoning. and so this one parcel, the hatch parcel which is a treasure island community development parcel, the lower righthand corner here, that parcel has a flex zoning to be able to go up to 300 feet. and then the rest of the east
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side neighborhood is under a flex zoning where individual parcels can go up to 240 feet. that being said, there are provisions within the -- the planning code and embo embodiedn the design of development that create restrictions. so this parcel at the southwest corner of that zone goes up to 350 feet, there's a certain offset to every direction before another parcel can go above the 65-foot limit. so that's the way that it's, you know, the density is kept to a certain threshold. >> i see. in some of the earlier diagrams, when we went down from two towers to one, there's really only an indication of one
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building that would go over -- there would be a tower and i would think that 300 feet, is that a tower or is that -- >> yeah, i think that anything that's, you know, i believe above 85 feet you move from the mid-rise to high rise definition under the building code. but, yeah, anything generally speaking on treasure island we have a 45-foot height limit along the shared public ways and then generally uniformally through the rest of the neighborhood it goes -- steps to 65. and then there are a number of locations in the westside neighborhood that are 125. and then there's just a few locations, a couple locations, on the west side that are 240. and then there's the 450 and the
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300 and that's kind of the tier. i can include an update on the zoning in a future briefing. so i can bring that back as a refresher for, you know, the members of the community and as well as the board. >> thank you. yeah, i'd appreciate that. >> president tsen: all right. miss richardson. >> thank you, bob. i was going to ask the question when we are going to get the sub-application so we can begin to digest the information. so we should be getting that probably at the end of this week. one of the other questions that i have and we only have like 30 days to provide the adjacent comments. so looking at the calendar between now and when we do this, we have to realize all avenues for us to be able to meet that deadline and the window,
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including using i.t.c. so i'm just reiterating here for the commissioners here, we only have 30 days. and if a lot of work needs to be reviewed with the sub-application. and my number two question is a statement. it's regarding to the sailing center and the marina and the sailing center -- are we going to be having a presentation on the sailing center and the infrastructure, the plan? because it's extremely very important. when we are going to have that if that's going to be part -- all of the elements that will be part of the subphase application we really, really, like the sailing center, i would like to see the configuration and how the space utilization and all of that. so when are we going to be able to get that to review those plans? and, again, if they're going to be going to the overall plan?
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and we needed 30 days and the approval date is set for when? so help me out with those questions. >> yeah, so like other vertical development, the specific development within the sailing center site, detail on that, won't be in the sub-phase application. overall as you know the tida board approved the lease with the sailing center, the long-term lease with the sailing center and we have submitted that to the board of supervisors and should be scheduled for committee next month i believe. and with that in place the sailing center's plan is to engage bcdc in the permitting process for their waterside improvements and to begin fundraising to try and finance both their waterside and their
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land side improvements. in the course of that they'll be developing more detailed design documents for the land side portion of their site. and we'll bring -- we'll be, you know, attending meetings with bcdc, with them, and we'll bring them back for additional updates to the board as they -- >> so i would like to see, again, the final language that goes into this application. it needs to stipulate what the expectations are with some of this so that -- because that's becoming the backbone, the reference material. so how we deal with that, to be open and tran transparent so tht everyone's obligation is stated there of what this is what is expected. because it will be referenced in the subphase application.
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and a legally binding document and it's reference material. so i would like to specifically see how the language that govern all of those, that we need to have to be clear to pay attention to that. again, all of the elements that goes into that plan that will be finalized and approved on april 1st, specific languages there and the direction there, they all need to be in there so that when we get to that particular work and framework for that particular site, then the expectations and the obligations and the authorities and the approvals are there. and, again, and spending time to iron everything out so that the regulatory agendas becomes in place. and so i just wanted to make those additional comments. thank you. >> president tsen: thank you. miss lai. >> thank you. actually before my questions, just a follow-up question on director richardson's question around the marina.
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i was under the impression that the layout or the configuration of the marina is stipulated already and the approvals, so there shouldn't be any changes to the configuration, correct? >> so what we've put into the lease with treasure island enterprises for the marina, and distinguishing the marina from the sailing center, is the maximum dimensions of the marina piers, and the -- the actual mix of slips, t.i.e. may modify as they go through the process with bcdc and what specific number of which size slips they're proposing. but the maximum dimension, i believe that it's like 747-by-800 feet, and i'll have a diagram in a later slideshow. but that maximum footprint is
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what is specified in our lease and as i said either through getting feedback from bcdc or their iteration of their pro forma they may modify the slip somewhat, but the footprint is the restriction. >> i see. i was under the impression that perhaps the slip next was also conditioned under the board's approval because i recall that being part of the discussion around the -- i suppose the balance between the slips, the larger slips for the luxury top of yachts versus the more economical type of boats. but it sounds like actually that proposed mix was just a proposed mix and it was not tied to the actual approval? >> yeah, yeah. >> okay. so actually -- first of all, i want to really thank you for
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trying to think outside of the box and thinking of more efficient ways to maximize the development potential on the island. some of your suggestions were really great. and my question is really related to ic-2.2. so you mentioned that you're proposing for us to trade that one site for a future site in a later phase. i was wondering if there's already been a specific site that you have allocated or you have identified? >> we have two parcels that we've proposed to ticd. when we were originally going to be a redevelopment agency and we were at 30% affordable, there were 24 affordable housing sites identified. and then when we converted to, you know, when redevelopment went away the number of
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affordable housing sites was reduced to 24. so two of the sites that we are looking at a believe are c-4.2 and c-6.1. i can look at a map and confirm that for you. those were affordable housing sites that were part of the 24 originally identified for affordable housing. but then they became market rate housing when the affordable housing percentages were reduced. so it just seemed like the most natural place to look because there was thought that had gone into the original map of how to distribute the sites within the development. >> okay. and similar question as director dunlop about the height. so for ic-2, what is the height? >> it's the general 65-foot but it's within the 240-foot flex
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zone but on such a small parcel it would be very expensive per floor to go above the base zoning. >> i guess small is perhaps relative on the mainland. >> yeah, yeah. >> and it's like 18,000 square feet is not that small. it's definitely feasible in my experience to have a residential building in that footprint. i guess that my input is just, you know, to caution that whatever site you're looking to slot for that we make sure that we have equal development opportunity. >> that's what we're looking at and part of it was that this was an outgrowth of the work that we did with natalie on planning for the distribution of units throughout our parcels and so, yeah, this was really getting to something that was a hundred units or more and, you know,
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which is really kind of a sweet spot for -- as -- i don't speak with authority but as authorities have stated to me this is kind of a sweet spot for the operation of the affordable housing site. >> yeah, i guess that i am just pointing out that, you know, that given that it would be a later phase that we are sort of giving something up, right? it would basically be, you know, a later opportunity to be able to deliver these affordable units potentially and arguably because it's even further out west or whatever, it could be perceived as perhaps less desirable or, you know, less convenient, it's further away from the main corridor. so it's fine that we're giving something up but let's just make sure that we gain something back as well. >> absolutely, absolutely. definitely the proximity to, you know, hangar two and the grocery
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store would be a greater distance. right now the number of parcels that we have in -- in major phase one relative to our ability to be able to cash flow the sites, we won't be able to develop all of these sites within this timeframe. so there's not a timing loss per se but definitely the proximity to services and transit is a tradeoff. >> president tsen: thank you miss lai. mr. samaha please. >> just a couple quick questions here. and maybe a bit of a bigger picture. i want to be clear as to what the process is here. so when you mentioned the mayor, you are talking about the current mayor london breed? >> mayor lee issued this directive in september of 2017.
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>> to create more housing? >> yeah. >> to facilitate the development of more housing. >> and to provide guidance to the city agencies and the direction of the city agencies to develop procedures and mechanisms for expediting -- >> okay, okay, i just wanted to clarify that. so my question is when you say that it's due in 30 days after the submittal of the application, what do you mean by "agency"? >> again, public utilities commission, sfmta, public works, the planning department, the fire department. those agencies that are involved in the review and potentially the acceptance of the infrastructure being described in the subphase application. >> so within 30 days of all of those agencies are to comment? >> yes. >> and then the approval -- so then once -- so once you have the approval a
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