connections to the disability community. so there is no real central -- well, how would you put it? there is a kind of committee that oversees ed roberts campus, but it's not seen as an entity in and of itself. the center is not seen as making its decisions as a center to the broader community. there are exceptions. they have programming and collaborative things that the different groups do together, but it's not necessarily an overarching cultural center. what we're discovering that would be a better fit in san francisco is not to have individual organizations kind of working as collaborators at it, but it would be a city-run center, kind of like the lgbtq center, or the latino cultural center. more like one of the existing. it would be like adding a jewel to the crown of the existing

cultural centres. >> thank you. ed roberts comes up. some people see it like this is what we need to strive for. and others are the warning, there is so much hope. everybody is going to look -- they have high expectations and if you disappoint in certain ways, as i think the ed roberts campus did in a few regards, we heard a lot of feedback. it can be heartbreaking to people to have a disability cultural center and not feel like a safe space. that's been very central in the research. >> council member madrid: thank you. >> co-chair senhaux: council member orkid sassouni? >> council member sassouni: hi, this is orkid speaking. thank you so much for coming. just a brief comment. i'm hoping that the center will

be equally supportive of all parts of our community. and i'm really hoping that will be so, so all can have an educational and learning experience, including something like a museum. i just wanted to put that out there to you. >> great idea. keep it on the radar. we won't ultimately make the decision. as you know, orkid is on the leadership council part of our advisory group. but you know, we won't be putting the actual plan into implementation, but keep that idea floating because it will be interesting to see. we can list it and promote it and all of those with our foinl report. thank you for that. -- final report. thank you for that. >> co-chair senhaux: any other questions? >> any idea of a time frame?

[inaudible] >> in terms of time frame, we hand in our final report with its recommendations and all of that at the end of april. and then it goes through the daas process and they come up with a call for proposals for somebody or some group or entity that will actually design and develop and implement what we've recommended. so as you know, between city bureaucracy and -- you know, people wanting to get it right. it's probably going to be a few years down the road. i'm not going to make any promises, but i know it won't be instant. it's probably -- i'm guessing at least, four or five years out? >> i would say the reason the april deadline, we wanted that later, and we're denied because they're hoping to immediately make sure to get the funding for

the next phase of the project into the -- to meet the -- >> the other piece to know is daas is really behind this. there is funding for it. and there is real motivation. it's not sort of -- it's not an empty exercise at all. it's really that the motivation is there. the resources are there. it's just a matter of them converging in the way that would push this forward continuously. so it will happen. it will happen. >> co-chair senhaux: council member williams? >> council member williams: one word. bravo. i'm so excited about this. >> co-chair senhaux: i have a comment, not a question. i want to thank you for being here at the beginning of this exciting project. we invite you to come back because we want to hear some of the data, the input that you got. and now i'm done with my

comments here. we have one more council member, council member blacksten. >> co-chair blacksten: yeah, thank you for coming. i really appreciate that. i've been following the work that you've been doing now for a couple months. i know that the age and disability friendly work group is working extensively with you and it's encouraging that daas is very much in support of what you're doing. quite impressive that you've got five -- you had five focus groups talking to the disabled leaders in the city, that is all great. just two quick comments. one of the passions that i have centers around service animals, because i do have a guide dog. so i would recommend that as you go forward, you include a

discussion with people who have guide dogs or disabled folks that have service animals, because that's a very, very important part of the disabled culture and arena. the other thing i just wanted to touch on lightly. i know funding is ultimately going to be a real important aspect of this. yes, i know you're in the very beginning stages. you know, you've got to put our report out first and then there is a whole lot of other things to do, have a steering committee and so forth. have you given some thought to how beginning funding would come for this? or are we talking stages? would daas play a major part? can you elaborate a little bit? >> i can talk about that in a minute, jim, if that's okay. >> co-chair senhaux: anything else, jim? >> co-chair blacksten: no, that

is it, service animals and funding. financing is important because without it you don't go far. that's all i have to say again. thank you for coming. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you council member. it's up to introduction to staff. >> hello again. i'm nicole bohn, the director of mayor's office of disability. thank you for the work you've done so far. it's amazing, both your work and the work of christina rodriguez who is not with us today, it's phenomenal. thank you so much. for the group to know about the process, just to clarify, so the contract that the longmore institute was awarded is -- is it for the -- is for the research and investigation phase and then they're going to be making recommendations for the next phase of the project, which

would be to potentially implement these recommendations in some form. so the funding that is currently available is for this phase of the project, and potentially the next phase of the project, but there are going to be steps in between. when the recommendations come forward, the council will have an opportunity to work with the city if you desire to continue to advocate for the project to move forward. and then we anticipate, should the project be approved to then move forward, there would be some funding that would be coming from city sources and then likely other funding that would come from potentially other sources, or donors, or folks that are interested in seeing the project continue to move forward. so this question of money and funding and financing is a question that we'll be looking at after the recommendation

phase is complete, which is in march. and part of the ran that department of aging and adult services want to have the short timeline on the recommendation, is so that we can maintain momentum and keep things moving, because so much good work and research and opportunity has come through this process. and i would encourage the council again, after the recommendations come forward, to invite the department of aging and adult services to come in and talk about how you can be helpful in the next phase of this investigation so that we can ensure that the project does move forward. i know it's something we all hope and would like to see happen. so, but, your involvement is going to be very important. as is the disability community in general in keeping things moving for the city. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you.

any other questions or comments from staff? i want to thank our presenters for being here today. >> i just want to add one thing. it is fabulous to be in a city like san francisco where there is a group supporting us and all we're doing. it's great. thank you so much. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you so much. thank you. we're going to go ahead and open public comment on this information item. any public comment. speaker cards? anyone in the audience would like to come up, have a comment on this agenda item? anyone on the bridge line? okay. so i'm going to go ahead on the close public comment. the next public comment has to do with the agenda items not on today's agenda but within the jurisdiction of the mayor's disability council.

is there any other public comment? anybody on the bridge line? okay. going to go ahead and close public comment. i'm going to go onto information item number 10, staff, any correspondence? >> there is no correspondence? >> co-chair senhaux: thank you, staff. going to go ahead and go onto discussion item 11, any council member comments or announcements. i see no hands waving. nobody in queue. i'm going to make a quick announcement, just remind everything that the next regular meeting here at city hall in room 400 is going to be march 15th from 1:00 to 4:00. we hope to see everyone. i want to thank everyone, presenters, public. thank you, council members for your input. staff, you're the best. i wish everyone a nice weekend. thank you. and we're going to go -- get to

use the gavel again. go ahead and adjourn. thank you. >> i have been living in san francisco since 1957. i live in this area for 42 years. my name is shirley jackson, and i am a retirement teacher for san francisco unified school district, and i work with early

childhood education and after school programs. i have light upstairs and down stairs. it's been remodelled and i like it. some of my floors upstairs was there from the time i built the place, so they were very horrible and dark. but we've got lighting. the room seems lighter. they painted the place, they cemented my back yard, so i won't be worried about landscaping too much. we have central heating, and i like the new countertops they put in. up to date -- oh, and we have venetian blinds. we never had venetian blinds before, and it's just cozy for me. it meant a lot to me because i didn't drive, and i wanted to be in the area where i can do my shopping, go to work, take the kids to school. i like the way they introduced

the move-in. i went to quite a bit of the meetings. they showed us blueprints of the materials that they were going to use in here, and they gave us the opportunity to choose where we would like to stay while they was renovating. it means a lot. it's just that i've been here so long. most people that enjoyed their life would love to always retain that life and keep that lifestyle, so it was a peaceful neighborhood. the park was always peaceful, and -- i don't know. i just loved it. i wanted to be here, and i stayed.

>> into the republic for which it stands to, one nation under god, indivisible god with and justice for all. >> commissioner, i would like to call role. >> please do. [roll call] >> commissioner, you have a coram, also with us tonight is

the chief of police, william scott appeared to be have a representative -- >> he just stepped out. >> director henderson is here, but temporarily mr hawkins was -- will be presenting the department of police accountability. >> ones -- welcome to the wednesday, february six, 2019 police commission meeting. we have a very full agenda tonight, especially in closed session, dealing with disciplinary matters, and litigation matters. we will be limiting public comment to two minutes. without further ado, please move into line item number 1 pick adoption of mutant -- of minutes. >> actions for the meeting of january ninth and 16, 2019. >> so moved. >> second. >> a public comment regarding our minutes? hearing on, public comment is closed. please call the next time.

>> i22 his consent calendar. receive and file action. police commission report of disciplinary action, fourth quarter, 2018. >> commissioners, you have this in your pocket. this is a consent item. are there any questions or concerns? do i have a motion class. >> so moved. >> do i have a second class. >> second. >> any public comment? hearing none, please call the next line item. >> reports to the commission discussion -- discussion. chief's report. crime trends, provide an overview will fences occurring in san francisco, significant incidents, chief dr report will be limited for a brief description of the significant incidents, commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the incidents the chief describes for future commission meetings. major events provide a summary of planned activities and events occurring since a previous meeting. this will include a brief overview of any unplanned events or activities occurring in san francisco, having an impact on public safety.

commission discussion on unplanned events, and activities the chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for a future meeting. community engagement division highlights provide an overview of recent activities coordinated by the commission -- by the community engagement commission. >> before we go into the report, we had a request that takes a portion of that off the calendar because the documents weren't ready. is that correct class. >> yes. >> great. ♪ good evening, chief. i know you just came back from the fire scene so you have a lot to report. >> good evening, vice president, commissioners and director henderson. i will start. and there was a three alarm fire today, and the san francisco department assists the fire department with controlling and evacuations. it was on gary. it was about a one block radius that is still being cordoned off. so we have a number of people displaced from their homes, the

fire department got it under control after a couple of hours. a gas line got disrupted by third-party. that caused the fire to go off, as far as we know. luckily no one was injured. a lot of personnel out there to get things,, as much as we could get it back to normal with other city partners and city families. mayor breed went out and did a press conference to update the public. i have just returned from that. it was good collaboration as always with city families and fortunately no one was injured. >> as far as crime, good news to report, again, overall, we are down 20 7%. i know it is still early in the year, and i always say that, but it is still good where we are. violent crime is down 18%, and homicides are down 33%. we had six this time of year last year, and we have four

currently year to date. our gun violence is down 60 3% from where it was this time last year, although it is still early in the year, that is a significant decrease. we are down from 19 this time last year, we had seven shootings year to date. overall, our robberies are down 14%, assaults are down 26%, and as far as property crime, there is a total of 28% reduction in property crime, which includes a 32% reduction in car break-ins at this time of year to date. good news to report. we will keep working with the community to hopefully keep it going in the right direction. we have had to fatal shootings year to date, and 50% of our homicides are firearm related. again, we hope to do some really

good work. we couldn't do this without the community. i will keep emphasizing how important it is to have those partnerships with the community to keep crime going in the right direction. we have a one traffic fatality over the past week, and it happened on saturday, february 2nd, at six in the evening, at folsom and 22nd street in the richmond district. it involved a pedestrian, 38 years old, was walking outside of the crosswalk, attempting to cross the street. she was struck by a vehicle going eastbound, and unfortunately, succumbs to her injuries. so this was not a hit and run. all parties stayed at the scene and tight -- tried to render aid to, what and fortunately she did not survive her injuries. as far as major events, we have had several conventions this week, large conventions,

highlighted by the ibm convention, which goes from the seventh to the tenth. we also have a tech convict -- convention that is happening right now. it ends on the seventh. and the adobe convention, also is happening this week. so it has caused some traffic back up, but we have support for those events, and no problems anticipated. the san francisco giants will have a fan festival, which is really the start of the beginning for baseball season. that will be this saturday, february 9th. from ten a.m. until three p.m. in the afternoon. we will be staffed and deployed to there peerk no concerns or issues at this time. it is usually a good family event. i also want to highlight a black history month celebration that will happen at the fillmore heritage centre this saturday, february 9th, from 12 bm until two p.m., and through our community engagement division,

actually the sfpd has taken the lead to, and we have a san francisco human rights commission and others that are helping us host this first annual celebration at the fillmore heritage centre. it will begin at 12 p.m. mayor breed will speak, as well as supervisor vallie brown, the gathering will highlight african-american people for an african-american achievements. we will have musical performances, spoken word, food, and more. we are inviting the public to attend that event. community engagement division highlights for the week include the presidio day hike with an elementary school. this was on february 7th. we had our officers from the bayview were taking youth from bayview to a college and career fair in oakland this weekend as well. for the month of january,

highlight on some of our community engagement events included our police activity award that happened on january 11th where youth that participated in the 40 niners football, and cheer team were awarded certificates and trophies for participating in the program. that, by the way, there are officers and coaches for that program, and it is a good community police endeavoured art -- endeavoured to get kids involved in sports and cheering. on general 28, our cadets had an exercise program. officers are training cadets on proper use of exercise equipment and how to stay injury free during their workouts. also, education, the youth were taught the benefits of healthy dieting and living a healthy lifestyle. we also participated into martin luther king events, including the annual martin luther king

freedom march on january 21st, and on january 15th, i and other members of the police department attended the recreation and park annual martin luther king launch. on january 5th, i attended, along with captain hart and other ingleside district officers, a resiliency visitation valley resiliency neighborhood meeting. it was the first one. captain hart did a good job on this, we had a number of high-profile incidents in the valley, including the assault on the 88-year-old grandmother, and basically, there captain hart and other community members' leadership, the community got together to try and come up with ways that the community can be more resilient, which improves organizing the community, making sure people are aware of what is going on, and it is a really good efforts. it is coming together. captain hart did a really good job on that.

january 19th, we had a public safety forum, also in visitation valley. that was after the incident with the attack of the grandmother that i just mentioned big over 200 community members attended that event. generate 24th, was a community safety walk in the urban neighborhood, and the captain and supervisor gordon mar conducted a safety walk with the merchants' association. there were over 90 merchants that participated and were engaged in this event. on general 25th, the mission dolores academy symposium took place, in partnership with the human rights commission, there was a panel discussion at mission dolores academy, and over 156 seventh and eighth graders attended the discussion. it focused on topics such as bullying, sexual assault and hate speech. those are the highlights. in addition, we kicked off the chinese lunar new year yesterday

, at an event in chinatown. the mayor attended as well as a lot of city officials, and many members of the chinese community. a good kick off to chinese lunar new year. those are the highlights. i'm here if anyone has any questions. >> i just want to say, and want to thank the officers who put together and solve the case involving the elderly woman that was beaten in visitation valley. i know there was good police work that led to the arrest for that offence and others, and i want to thank those officers for their hard work. they are the ones who got it done, and it shows the skill and the effort ends the concern that the officers that throughout the city had, and the command staff. thank you. >> anything for the chief? no, please call the next time. >> this is item three b., the director's report, report on recent activities and announcements. the report will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements.

the commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future commission meeting, the d.b.a.'s presentation for november and december month is a fiscal report and will be put over until next meeting. >> thank you. that evening, director henderson. >> good evening. i have a few things to share with you guys today. i will start off with the statistics that i typically read off so people know about our caseloads and what we are working on in the office. so far this year, we have had 55 new cases come in. we were at 49 the same time last year. we have close 48 cases so far this year versus 51 last year. currently we have 286 cases that we are in the process of working on. that number is up from 24 g last year this time. this year, in 2019, there are

ten cases we have sustained, versus three cases we sustained this time last year, we are still at the same number as last week for cases that have passed the 270 day point. that is 25 cases. of this 25 cases, 17 of them are being told for legal reasons. in terms of cases mediated, we have up to three so far. we were out one at this time last year. new in the office we have a new staff members. we have offloaded for new investigators, and one new administrative analyst, which started earlier this month, and i will introduce them to really get both of them, if not all of them are paid here in the audience today if i do have something that i want to talk a little bit about created our new sustained case report.

we got around to that have changed that. the highlights of the meeting, now in the sustained reports that the chief receives and the commission receives, it will have a broader and deeper legal analysis associated with it. we reduced the time to prepare the reports, so all of you will have more time to review and make disciplinary decisions. basically, what will happen is the new reports will be co-authored by the investigators and the attorneys who will be working on the cases from the very beginning, and not just at the end, providing supplementals and often duplicate if information, facts, and analysis we estimate it is about 30% of the time that it takes to get to all of you to put the cases in front of you. the problem we are trying to solve for where there were repetitive summaries and long summaries of interviews that

were repetitive, and necessary work in those reports. the difference that you will see is that the legal analysis for each case will be in context and concise, quicker and easier for all of you to see the big picture, and to make the decisions you make regarding the discipline. we have already started to. you should start seeing those soon, what i wanted to explain it to you as you start seeing them. you will be getting them faster and more concise moving forward to. in terms of the mediation, as you know, we have expanded the staff that is involved in mediation in my office, and both the director, in addition to our outreach director, met with the chief and his command staff on the 17th to talk about mediation and outreach. i just want to thank the chief for that meeting, and let folks

know that the mediation team is going to present -- make a presentation at the meeting with the department on the 21st. that is coming up, we are excited about unable to articulate and answer the questions about how the office works, what the mediation project does, in context to the cases, and the other work we do to the department. we have a lot of outreach during this month. folks from the staff, d.b.a., went to the district stations' community meeting scott both to answer questions and receive information throughout the city. this month, we have been to ingleside, central, tenderloin, and mission appeared on the 17th, the outreach, my outreach manager met with chief scott and the rest of his command staff to start making more of the rounds, and the police stations confirming that our forms and brochures are visible and accessible to the public, similar to the forms that we have here for people to

understand what d.p.a. does, and how to contact us and share information with us. i just want to confirm that five of the stations have actually taken the steps to ensure the accessibility, and a thank you to richmond station, northern station, taraval, park, and central stations so far. saturday, on january 19th, one of our attorneys attended and gave remarks at the visitation valley public safety meeting. this is the group that was here over the past few weeks talking about the incidents that are taking place in visitation valley. i wanted to make sure our folks were there and able to answer questions. also we participated in advancing the career fair, hosted by the hrc. we are collaborating with hrc this year, and we are sharing the willie brown fellow. we are working on race disparities and inclusion for

public safety. january 26th, i spoke with youth advocates about race to parent -- disparities in the justice system at the social justice teaching. this is a consortium of the bay area schools. it was hosted at bishop o'dowd, included saint ignatius college preparatory. i would like to share that because they were there. also, on the 30th of january, we participated in the human trafficking presentation with the district attorney about public safety for inclusive communities. that is my report for the past few weeks. i will stay in the audience. i don't want to forget my folks in the audience. here is alexandra, roberts, christian, kelly, who is our new investigators, you guys are all

here and ready. >> are these new hires cost. >> these are all new hires. >> welcome. >> thank you, guys for coming. >> good luck. >> and joyce is here, she is our new administrative analyst will be helping us with our budget and bookkeeping. and also present is our senior investigator, steve ball and my chief of staff. if issues come up during the meeting, or people have issues or need to talk to anyone on the staff from d.b.a., they are available and here to answer questions. as i said, i try and encourage all of the new employees to participate and come to police commission during the first three months just to get context about how the work translates in this form, in addition to the work we are doing in the community. thank you for hosting us. >> thank you -- thank you for joining the office of d.b.a., and the commission expects professionalism, that is what we ask of you, go to, professional

investigation. a strong d.p.a. builds a strong police department. thank you. any thing -- commissioner taylor? >> director henderson, i know -- i know that you had talked before about not only providing us with the results of your audit, but the analysis behind it. what is the schedule for that? >> i would love to schedule something to come and make a presentation for all of you, both on what we are doing with the audit, where we are, and what it will look like, i would love to get that on the calendar. we are ready, i just need a date and a time to make it part of the agenda. i've already spoken with that whole team, and they are ready to make the presentation. that is ongoing, i believe we should have the results in may, but i would love to get it on the record before then to answer questions, and to make inclusions if the council wants more stuff presented in a way that is more palatable to a

broader audience. >> anything further for director henderson? hearing none, please call the next item. >> item three c., reports to the commission commit. commission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future commission meeting. commission president's report, commissioner's reports. update on dg l3 .16, there working group meeting held on general 28, 2019. >> thank you very much. basically we have been busy in the weeks that we have been off, working on assembly bill 1421. and other issues, whether it is staffing, and how we will handle it, there have been several meetings on that front, but that is what i have reported to commissioners. is there anything else you would like to report? >> i met with some members of the youth commission, and they would like to come to this body

and report on their concerns regarding the youth commission and police activity, as well as their budget. they asked for us to schedule i think, march 13th, a short presentation -- february 13th, a short presentation. i did speak to commissioners, and i think that will work out for them to do that. i also want to remind this commission that i have probably resolution so that we have a rotating youth commissioner to sit with us, and make presentations on a weekly basis. and you get to choose from that person will be. the youth commission will take that up and look at the resolution. and hopefully it is something we can bring in march or april to this commission, and have them participate in some fashion with this body. >> great. anything further? >> gotcha. so, i was looking back in my

phone so i could remember what i was doing over at the headquarters, we had dg '03 16, that meeting there last week. myself and commissioner taylor. i think, i don't think there's too much substantive to report right now, just that we are making progress. i think the last meeting was very productive and that we narrowed the issues and through a combination of the community, the commissioners, and the department, it is my opinion we are on a pretty good track, and i think that hopefully the next meeting maybe able to move forward and report something more substantive. >> i should also add, i met with the d.p.a. and the p.o.a., and the police department on this pic i have to tell you, it was very productive, commissioners,

to have everyone in the room, we all sat in the room and we hash it out. i want to thank the director, and i want to think p.o.a. and staff are doing it. it was a very effective way of handling it. >> it is the medal of valour his. commissioner taylor? >> i want to echo what the commissioner said about the 3.16 working group. and i want to commend the department, both the community groups -- especially to the department, i was pleasantly surprised by folks really coming up with creative solutions, and in the spirit of compromise, i think we are very close to hopefully a resolution that will be good for everyone. >> no worries. >> i also want to report that commissioner taylor and i and the chief had a black history month 2019 celebration kickoff. black migrations moving forward

where we heard from the barge commissioner who gave the keynote, but it was an exciting event that took place here at city hall. mayor breed to give me phenomenal speech as she declared it black history month pickett was an excellent event, encouraging folks and community to come out for the entire month. >> i forgot, i have asked this body to put on the agenda of the letter we got from a cat remember -- >> that is next. >> okay, thank you. >> please call the next line item. >> item 3d is commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration of fridge -- future commission meetings. >> and snap the next commission meeting will be on the 13th at 530 p.m. here at city hall in room 400. >> so i think we got the letter

saying we had violated the brown act, i think it was, from the task force. i thought we could -- i thought i had asked if we could agenda eyes that so we can talk about it. >> i would ask that that letter be distributed to all the commissioners so we have a look at it, and if there are some authorities, whether or not it's binding -- i understand some of the conversations we've had about bringing that forward, but again, i think we should put that off down the work -- road until we get a firm handle on that. that would be my opinion. but if that is what the whole commission wants, we could take a vote on it. it is something we can actually vote on right now. >> can we at least put it on the agenda? >> i think that the deterrents for putting it on its because of the substantive issue, and i don't think that's what the commissioner is asking for. she is asking for -- so i think

procedurally, we should at least put this on the agenda to talk about that, not the substantive portion of the letter. >> for those who were there at the seat -- that evening, we had firm legal advice from our city attorney that we had done everything legally and procedurally correct. >> we can't talk about it right now so i want to put it on the agenda. >> i would just follow up on that point, we have talked about this before, and we keep talking about it every meeting. nobody here has a desire to go back and relive those glorious days that you had here. i have heard about them, but i do think two points, one, it is a criticism of the well-founded

because i think it is not -- it is probably sometime task force which is a city body or agency of some sort, my apologies for not knowing the exact -- how it is formed, and then to, you know, i think we are all, for the most part, equal commissioners, and the rules allow us to put things on, so according to our rules of order, the president and secretary can decide one time not to put it on, and then it has to be on within the second meeting after it's been requested. to me, i just don't -- i don't think this should be a point of disagreement. we are here to have the nice conversations, the inspirational conversations, with tough

conversations. i don't think this is a tough conversation, and i would just like to put it to rest so we don't have to keep talking about it. >> do i have a motion to put it on for the next meeting? >> we don't need a motion. >> a commissioner can request it. >> madame city attorney? >> i have been watching a lot of legal research. [laughter] >> so i will read the whole part

so everybody is aware of the rule of order. rule to .13, any agenda item submitted to the secretary for inclusion of the agenda on a regular or special meeting must be approved by the commission deputy assistant chief or the chief chief of police item submitted by d.b.a., must be approved by the d.p.a. director, all items must be submitted before the close of business on the thursday preceding a regular commission meeting. the secretary shall promptly inform the president of all such prohibited agenda items. if the president determines an interest of maintaining a meeting of a reasonable length for such item should not be included on the agenda for the meeting for which the item was submitted, such item maybe omitted, which shall be included on the agenda for the next regular meeting or of a special meeting, except as provided by the brown act. the key shall not act upon our discuss any meat item at the meeting unless the description of the agent appears on an agenda for the meeting. if an item arises after the

agenda has been distributed, the commission may add it to the agenda and consider the item in accordance with procedures set forth under the brown act. >> that was the d.p.a. and the chief. isn't there one for commissioners? >> i favor having that discussion. i didn't at first, but it has come up so many times, it is clearly an issue for some of the commissioners. it is an issue from some members of the public. i think we should put it on the agenda with a couple caveats. i would encourage every commissioner who was not present at that meeting to go back and -- i think it was november 3rd when the meeting happened. go back. is a six and a half hour tape. i would not suggest you look at all of that, but at one hour and 51 minutes, because i went back and i reviewed it recently, one hour and 51 minutes, that is when it became impossible for the commission to meet, and it

is important for you to look at the initial stages of the meeting, then look at what happens between one hour and 50 minutes, and about two hours. the commission was basically locked up for over an hour and a small room behind room 200 downstairs. i suggest after that our, and i think it is somewhere around three hours plus, we reconvene, and there were two hours of testimony. i think a little more than two hours pick some from experts, mostly from the public who came in, five people at a time, they gave their two minutes, and some of them sat down, some of them left. i think it is important for you to understand what that meeting was like so that when we go through the sunshine letter, and i will have a fair amount to say when we do that, you will at least know as best you can what actually happened at that time. i would support its. by the way, the rules that we

have don't say that any time a commissioner wants to put something on the agenda, it gets on, and if it can't get on the next meeting, he gets on the following meeting. it says, if there's no room on the calendar back then it has to be calendared. but there are other reasons why matters won't come on the calendar. sometimes the commission is not ready to discuss a matter because they are not fully educated, or they don't have documents, where they haven't heard from experts. it may mean that matters -- this does not happen to be one of those examples, but there are times where it may take months to put something on a calendar because we are not ready to discuss it, and i would hope we don't have to wrestle over that, and i agree with commissioners that we ought to work as a collaborative body. if there are things in need to be discussed -- i would support putting it on. >> commissioner taylor. >> i wanted to ask the city attorney's office if she doesn't mind, the first part of that

provision. if you could reread that for us. it got lost. something must be approved by? it is just at the very beginning. >> absolutely. agenda items get any agenda submitted to the secretary for inclusion on the agenda as a regular or special meeting must be approved by a commissioner, deputy chief, assistant chief or the chief of police. item submitted by d.p.a. must be approved by the d.p.a. director. all items submitted before the close of business on the thursday preceding a regular commission meeting, the secretary shall probably inform the president president of submitted agenda items back if just president determines in the interest of maintaining and beating of a reasonable length, such item shall not be included on the agenda for the meeting for which the agenda -- item was submitted. it maybe omitted but shall be included on the agenda of the next regular or of a special meeting. >> there is that old shall we learned about in law school.

that is mandatory, it is not discretionary. >> but did you hear what the words say? if the president determines a calendar is too full, essentially. >> it goes over one meeting. >> but if that is not the reason why it is not being calendared, suppose it is not being calendared because we are waiting to get documents i will take another two months, it is not being delayed because of the length of the meeting calendar, is being delayed for some other reason. >> with that is a decision for the commissioner, we are not a monarchy here, we are coequal commissioners, and while the president has the ability to set committees, a few other things, we all have the same voice and vote up here. that is why it is written like that because we get to decide whether or not something is ready. there is not a threshold that we must show to our wise leader in

order to have an item on the agenda, and to discuss it. i think that is why it is written in language that is mandatory. if i want to bring something on and i realize, like you said, it is not ready, i just pull it off. but you can imagine that, right? if there is somebody -- satan eva leader takes over the commission and tries to prevent us from doing the good work we are doing here, which i'm certain will not happen, then that person could control everything, could stop the process of reform, stop all the good work that we have been doing, and that has been done on this commission before i joined. that is not how commissions are generally run, and that is not how the rules of order requires to conduct our meetings. >> commissioner taylor? >> most of us are lawyers here, and most of us are able to read a legal document and provision,

and we all know that even smart and legal minds can disagree on what a provision means. i think it would be helpful if perhaps, not today, but we could have the city attorney's office, or we could each do our own research on this, because on a plain reading of this, it says, if the calendar is too long. i would like more time to look at this and think about it, and do research of my own. if you are able to advise us, that would be welcome and helpful. with this alone does not answer the question, so i would like to be educated on what we are permitted and not permitted to do. [laughter] >> thank you. there is no reading here.

it is plain, black letter, i don't think we have to decide this tonight, i guess we do as far as putting it on the agenda, but it doesn't matter how much help we cry for from the city attorney. we still have to do our job. the letter, the word of the rules states that you are no more powerful than i, i am no more powerful than you, we are all coequal commissioners. i think that we should, you know, i have had talks with a number of you about that, about how we treat each other with respect, with dignity, because as to be has told me many times, that was not always the case on this commission, so in order to have that in a positive way, we have to respect each other, but also respect the rules kick. >> commissioner taylor? and then i will end this. >> absolutely. i think that we all work very

well together, and we do respect each other. i'm asking to be educated because i can read black letter law just as well as anyone else on this day us, and i have questions. if i have questions, i imagine i'm not the only person who has questions. i am asking to be educated, as a lawyer myself, as to what this means. but this shalt refers to is not clear to me in reading this. so that is my only request. >> thank you. >> i just wanted to get clarification. things are getting taken off because they aren't ready. if a commissioner asks to put an item on the agenda, who decides when it is not ready? it has been the president's decision to say, i don't think it is ready, therefore i am taking it off even though another commissioner asked to put it on. >> i don't have an answer to that. i don't know. >> that raises my point. we have questions.

>> we have been told by the city's attorney representative that we have the ability to vote as to whether an item goes on the calendar. am i right about that? >> that is correct. as a body, the commission can vote to place an item on the agenda. >> if i bring something up, and the president decides, let's call for a vote, and a majority does not want to put the item on the agenda, it doesn't go on the agenda? >> that is correct. >> i've never had us vote like that. >> yeah,. [laughter] >> where does it say that in the rules? >> can i make a suggestion? >> i can send you the caselaw if you would like on how the commission can make -- >> twelve years on this commission, we have never voted. >> we all have questions. >> can i make a suggestion? i think that from what i gather, people want to address this issue. and commissioner say it is not

about revisiting tasers. it is about whether or not we should discuss the sentient ordinance task force, their decision, as opposed to the information we got. what i suggest, as we put this on until next week and we schedule after that. it looks like we have enough votes to put it on for discussion. >> again, i think that is what we should do. and it brings up a lot if you motion, you weren't here when this took place, you have to understand, some of the considerations are the stress of everything that brings us upon. >> if you want, we can schedule for next week, or we can put it over so commissioners have further briefing and schedule for the following week. >> whatever, i just wanted on the agenda. >> like you said, i don't think that anybody is trying to get to the underlying vote.

>> let's put it on for february 20th so we have some time. okay, we are good. february 20th. >> in the meantime, if i could have that further briefing about how agenda items are voted upon, that would be very helpful. >> absolutely. might -- may i suggest the bylaws be rewritten, given that there are so many questions. these are outdated. >> says who? >> since 2005 on the top. >> but what about it? do you feel that we should not have individual commissioner rights? >> i have no personal feelings. my suggestion is to revise the bilo to read as this commission would like them to read. >> please call for public comment on these items. >> we have public comment on items 38 through 3d kick. >> any public comment? public comment is now closed. >> item four, discussion and possible action to propose the

draft of penalty guidelines for the sworn members of the san francisco police department for purposes engaging in the meet and confer process with the police officers association as required by law for discussion and possible action. >> i will turn this over to commissioner hirsch who has been working on this. >> i will start off. this project was started a long time ago. president determine started it. when he left the commission, i took up the mantle. i worked with brian jones. we went through several -- >> sorry about that. >> we went through several other police departments disciplinary matrixes, and sergeant jones started working based on the los angeles disciplinary set of guidelines. what we did is we try to create

guidelines that would provide better notice, be better organized, and they are clear to both the department and the public, and to the d.p.a. what happens for a certain misconduct the department, for a landing and there are several capital for the conduct, and several of those levels of discipline that we adjust for what it really does is it acknowledges the serious offences. when there are serious offences, you can expect, as an officer, to be terminated or seriously disciplined. we think it is fair that there are less that officers are given the opportunity to know what they did wrong, and to correct their behavior. that is part of that progressive discipline that is built in to bargaining agreement to this matrix as well if there is a felony conviction