all felt safe. a san francisco where we were protected. a san francisco where people who did their jobs, did it honestly and fairly. and the reason that that is so important in these times is because we've had such a great loss that we've had members from the community who have already spoken out and wanted to know who was going to protect them. the police commission is that protection. and the individuals who are on that commission are part of that protection. they are the gatekeepers. they're the folks who look out for the average citizen. they make sure that folks who are on the police force are held accountable. and that's what ms. alias brings. she brings diversity, she brings knowledge, she brings her experience. and she is going to make sure we have a transparent and accountable san francisco. there is sb1421, and the

people are entitled to know what police are doing. and with that being said, we support cindy alias 100 that is. thaalias100%. thank you all. >> thank you, mr. wilson. >> good morning, supervisors, my name is rachel kilshaw, and i'm here on behalf of commissioner alias, and ask that you consider her for reappointment to the police commission. i'm a fifth generation san franciscoan, and still live with my city here. i recently retired from the san francisco police department after 28 years. and during the last three years with the department, i was assigned to work at the police commission office. i have known commissioner alias since she joined the police commission last year. she was appointed by the board of supervisor to fill the seat that was vacated by then president termon's sudden passing, and she certainly had big

shoes to fill. over the past year, she has definitely risen to the occasion. she has taken her role on the police commission very seriously, and she has worked diligently on all of the matters under the police commission's authority, from adopting the policies that officers follow to handling police officer discipline, and overseeing the implementation of the u.s. d.o.j.'s 272 recommendations far the s.f.p.d. i know her to be fair, thoughtful and hard-working. she has taken on a number of projects that are important not only to the members of the s.f.p.d., but also members of the mr. speaker. thanpublic. thank you for your time, and, again, i ask you to reappointing ms. alias so she can continue to work on the important work that the police commission does. thank you. >> hi, my name is peter

sanina, and i'm an attorney in private practice, but i worked with cindy alias, and i'm here to speak on her behalf. i worked with her for 10 years at the public defender's office. other people have spoken to her principles, and that's utterly clear. but i think she actually has something much more than that, which is an incredibly rare gift to be human and to be loving and to be brilliant and funny with literally everyone. so she would be fighting incredibly hard for her clients, but unlike some of us, she would still also have very positive relations with prosecutors and very positive relationships with police officers. and she was also somebody who never betrayed her principles but could -- she was able to access a common humanity in literally everyone. so i think she has a rare gift and an opportunity

that shouldn't be missed here of appointing her -- reappointing her to the commission because cindy is somebody that you can count on to work with people to get the right things done. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> good morning. my name is mano raju. and i'm the manager in the public defender's office. previously was a trainee director and a line deputy -- felony line deputy in the office. it was in that context that i got to know cindy. and i wanted to echo and emphasize what mr. santini just said, which is that cindy has an ability to communicate like no one i've ever met. whether she is talking to an immigrant mother, whether she is in a board room, in a holding cell, at a community meeting -- her ability to make everyone feel heard and

welcomed is unparallelled. our office really prides ourselves in client representation. and it is a lot of our clients that are the ones who are often the subject of police action. and one way that i would like to do -- and i have done trainings on client-center representations. what i like to do is say, just be like cindy. if you can be like here, you get it. there is no one who is more loved by our clients. there is no one who exhibits more love to our clients than cindy. i'll often get people calling me as a manager and say, hey, can you get cindy on my case? i can't get her on all of the cases. if i would, i could, but there is only one of her. that is, in many ways, a testament to the bruta beauty of her spirit and her heart. i think she is someone who can move mountains to make the police commission what

it should be for both the police officers and the people of san francisco. thank you. >> good morning. i name is brian pearlman, and i'm the current misdemeanor margin. i had the pleasure of working with cindy for many years. she is one of the most compassionate, loving, caring advocates i have ever been with, ever worked with. i thought, we're all having a tough day today, with jeff's passing, and i thought what better way to honor his legacy than to come here and support cindy. the way i've seen her deal with the most difficult clients, the most difficult cases, the most difficult situations and approaching that with so much love and caring, and spending hours and hours at the office with her clients and with her cases, i just could not think of a better person

for you to reappoint to be on this commission, and to honor the work that we do in making sure that this city is a just and fair place. thank you. >> good morning. my name is mara evans, and i'm the chair person for the racial justice committee at the san francisco public defender's office. and i'm also a member of the san francisco bar associations' criminal justice taskforce and the chair person of the bia subcommittee. and this year i'm part of the cohort for our office that is participating in the government alliance on racial equity. and when i was -- i've been at the public defender's office for 20 years. and i've had the opportunity to work with

cindy during that time. and some of my colleagues and former colleagues have spoken to her unique qualities in that capacity, so i won't go over that again. i want to also speak to cindy's capacities as a commissioner for part of the last year, and her ability to connect and reach out to community organizations, to connect with people on the bar association's criminal justice taskforce, to connect with officers. i've actually seen cindy personally in the executive sponsor working group meetings. she is prepared. you can see the effort that she puts into this work. and so based on all of those, i know i'm over my

time, but just the community needs someone who is able to reinstore trust in the police commission, and cindy is uniquely positioned to provide that to the community, a sense of trust in the process. thank you. >> hi, my name is tamara acres, and i'm a paralegal to the office of the public defender. i'll try not to repeat what everyone else has said. having worked with cindy in the capacity of a paralegal, she is a tireless and fearless and innovative advocate for the community at large and for how she deals with those that she has to work with on the other side of the courtroom. i am also on the racial justice committee, and i've had the privilege of attending some of the working bias groups as the

police department, and i've seen cindy come in in her role and capacity as a police commissioner, and i have seen how she interacts with everyone in the room. she is able to ask pointed questions, but also maintain wonderful relationships with everybody there. she seems to really get to the heart of the issues as well as being able to have conversations with everyone there that fosters working together and solving the problems that are unique to the police department here in san francisco. so i strongly advocate her continuing position here in the police commission, and thank you for your time. >> thank you so much. is there any other member of the public who would like to speak? now is the opportunity. seeing none, public comment is closed. [gavel] >> why don't you start,

supervisor walton. >> thank you, chair. the one thing about the police commission is this is a very serious commission. in fact, as we look at the social justice and equity, which is more prevalent now, since we've lost one of our major champions, the fight and this type of work, we're going to need our commissioners to be willing to do and capable of is even more weighted at this point in time. one thing i did want to ask each candidate the same question, and so if you all could come back up. and the question is: what's our biggest task ahead to ensuring police accountability and building trust between community and law enforcement? >> you all don't have to rush up. >> i'll go first. it's really accountability.

i think that -- and transparency. because what i've found in doing his work for the last year and speaking to the communities, is that they don't feel trust with the police department. and the police officers don't necessarily feel trust with their community. i think they sort of feel it is an "us versus them" because that trust has been broken. i think that what has been helpful to me is when i speak to the community and letting them know these are some of the issues that the police officers are feeling or dealing with, and maybe if th we can look at it from their perspective just to gain understanding. we don't necessarily have to agree, but if we can at least gain some understanding, it puts them in a better position. i do that with police officers, too. because at the end of the day, they put their lives on the line and they protect their community. it saddens me to see they don't feel that connection with the community. i'm constantly reminding them of what it is like to be a community member and

to interact with the police officers. and that builds trust. we have to be able to say, hey, guess what, i made a mistake and it's okay because it is not the fact that we made a mistake, but the fact we got back up, we owned it and we moved on. i think with those sort of concepts and principles, that is going to help us move forward to gain that trust that we've lost, and to do the things we need need to do because with have 272 recommendations, and it is moving at a snail's pace, and we need to get it going. >> i'll repeat the question: what's our biggest task ahead to ensuring police accountability and building trust between community and law enforcement proceeding. >> thank you for the question, supervisor walton. to begin with, i would conduct a comprehensive assessment of where we are now. there appear to be some

challenges on the part of the san francisco police department in implementing the recommendations from the united states department of justice. there may be reasons. are we providing adequate resources to the police department with what we're asking them to do? case in point is the recent issue concerning the strategic communications at the police department, which was tasked with interacting with the community and informing the community. however, we know that there are many ways to reach audiences, and there are many audiences, and not everyone has internet. we know that one out of eight san francisco residents is very low income, to the point where they cannot afford home internet as reported by the media last summer. and i would say that maybe we -- i would want to know who was being tasked with preparing these

communications with the community? is it a communications specialist? or is it a police officer that could be on the streets protecting the community? is there someone else with communication expertise that can be brought in to help? maybe not as an employee, but maybe as a consultant. i would want to assess what is going on. because before we move forward and say, well, just get the job done, in science we conduct an assessment. what is going on? do we have the resources? we may find out that we are asking for the police department to do tasks that they need more training for, more assistance, and we have funding in this city that we can take some time and evaluate what is the situation here. let's talk with the police department and ask them,

what challenges are you experiencing with implementing these united states department of justice recommendations, as opposed to just saying, get this done, get this done. we want it done the right way. if we can understand what the situation is, then that's half of the solution. i know this much: we can't continue doing things the same way that we've done in the past. and i believe there is someone that says the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. so i would submit let's look at what the assessment has been in the past. what there ever an assessment of the police department's capacity to implement these recommendations? or was there just this recommendations, saying, we found all of this, now do it. do we have the skill sets in the right areas? do we need some consultants? as an expert in

organizational. ( buzzer ) , which iorganizational behavio, which is my bachelor's degree, were you want to have implementation and change, but you want careful and contemplative change. so let's examine this. let's assess where we are now. do they have the tools they need? do they have the skills they need? if they don't, let's provide the funding. let's make some changes. let's do things differently so we can have a different result. that is the greatest challenge i see before us. thank you. >> do you need me to repeat the question? >> please. >> what's our biggest task ahead to ensuring police accountability and building trust between community and law enforcement? >> thank you for that question, supervisor walton. just to echo what has already been said, accountability and transparency is essential. however, here in san

francisco, we have the unique opportunity to have lots of higher learning institutions here. i think we need to involve our higher learning institutions that are willing to get involved to create training centers where folks who are dealing with quality of life issues, folks who are formally offenders, can be in a classroom setting, in learning environment, with people who are on the streets, and they can begin to have a community exchange in an educational environment that would increase understanding. and i think that would bring more transparency -- i mean more affective communication between those two communities. thank you. >> if you wouldn't mind, i did see any other candidate walk into the room. ms. barry. did you want to present to the commission. we already did open and closed public comment, but i wanted you to have an opportunity to speak on behalf of your applicant,

yourself. >> i appreciate that. the last time the process was six hours. so i thought by me being at the end of the list, it would be four hours from now before i would be able to speak. >> of course. just to let you know, because last time was so long, we cut it down and are giving each applicant five minutes to speak. so you'll have five minutes. >> i'll definitely keep it shorter than that so we can move on. thank you, again. my name is gloria barry. and i would actually like to take a few seconds of my time to have a moment of silence in honor of one of my heros, mr. jeff adochi. okay. last time i was here, it was clear who would be chosen to be on the commission. i understand this is protocol, to conduct these hearings, and more importantly increase my chances in the future to be considered. i'd like to highlight my

qualifications. i'm probably the only candidate that has had 23 years of youth forced training. 13 years military, eight years in law enforcement, two years in security, and one year as a san francisco police department cadet. i've also had a youth of force investigation conducted on myself. i have real-life experience with being in fear for my life and physically restraining men that were violent and resisting. i also have years of experience in deescalating hostile situations. my experience also includes administering discipline for misconduct. i've held investigations and collected evidence. i've conducted hearings with general orders, standard operating procedures, and the law being the guidelines i used. last year tasers were a

topic. i'm glad the board did not approve the budget for them, and i hope that continues to be the case. i personally know someone that has been tased twice, and because of the culture, sometimes that scoiforts iexists in the depart. it wasn't an appropriate use of force. i'm still very concerned with the reforms that were recommended to be complete, along with the recommendations from the blue-ribbon panel. in closing, i would like to say i'm glad to see you three supervisors on this committee. and i'd also like to close bringing up, again, once again, mr. adochi, and i know mr. walton is working on oversight for the sheriff's department, and hopefully some of the candidates you're interviewing will be considered for that endeavor, which is a very important one as well. thank you. >> thank you.

supervisor walton had a question for all of the candidates. >> thank you, ms. barry. i've been asking all of the candidates just one question. and the question is: what's our biggest task ahead to ensuring police accountability and building trust between community and law enforcement. >> exactly. for the community side of it, i'm really getting tired of the community being blamed for the trust factor. i was born here. i'm a native, 1969, and police have always broken the trust of the community. and i think the problem bears on their side. i specifically would like to see the police department engage in community -- any type of community-type event, whether it be graduations at high schools or whatnot. i noticed in the bayview specifically, the officers do a good job at attending events. however, they usually send

the black officers. and the problem exists between white officers and black people. so if you're going to keep black people with black people, you're not really working on that relationship. so i would like to see a lot of the white officers integrate themselves in our festivals, in our art shows, and just community-build. and i would like the model to be the capitan of the northern station, who i've seen since he started, engage with the community. he didn't just do it when he started. he does it to this day. he is always at the fi filmore heritage center and whatnotment whatnot. i think other departments in the city could follow his lead in that. >> thank you. just one more thing that i just wanted to say. this work of holding officers accountable and making sure they have the ability to do their job, but also are respectful within the communities

that they serve is very important. and so we have some strong candidates here today. and i want to thank all of you for applying to serve on the police commission. but i also want to encourage you to continue all of your efforts and work as we work towards the 272 recommendations that the department of justice had. there are taskforces and committees that you can serve on. so please don't let this -- whoever gets selected and moves forward today, do not let this stop you in your continued advocacy because we have a lot of work to do. i want you all to know i can see all of you doing great work in this area and appreciate you all applying. thank you. >> supervisor mark? >> thank you, chair ronan. i also wanted to really acknowledge and thank all of the applicants for this police commission seat. i think just the fact that we have so many qualified

and impressive candidates applying for the seat is a testament to the importance of the police commission and the work that is ongoing there, especially the full involvement of the d.o.j., please reform recommendations. thank you all for applying and for all of the work that you're doing. i especially wanted to thank and acknowledge reginald daniels, marilyn marelo, and gloria barry. the three of you really bring tremendous life experience to the work you're doing right now, and would bring that to the police commission. that would be so valuable. and also a wide-range of community leadership and activism around a wide range of social issues that intersect with law form and the justice system. so thank you so much.

and, yeah, for your application. i would just echo commissioner walton's points around really encouraging you to continue to be active, as you have been, and explore other roles that you can step into within our city structures. but i am going to be supporting the reappointment of cindy alias, and it is really just for all of the really important reasons that were highlighted in the many people that spoke in support of cindy during public testimony. we are very fortunate, i think, as a city, to have somebody like cindy, who is willing to serve in this role in the police commission and bring her immense and unique qualifications and perspectives to that. thank you so much, ms. alias for your commitment to these very important issues.

>> thank you so much. >> i just wanted to start out by saying that i feel like i'm half here and have not and that i've been punched in the gut because one of the very, very few people in the city, who unabashedly, with his entire heart and soul, fought for and stood by and was unequivocally there for people that are often the most unpopular people in society, people who that are most often poor, people that are most often of color. and he was one of those people that we knew was going to be by our side no matter what. and there are not many of

those people in politics. there is just not. and that's the truth. and much as i feel gutted, completely and utterly gutted, i just can't believe that cindy got through her presentation with so much dignity and grace, in typical cindy alias fashion. i couldn't get through her presentation, but she did. that so many have jeff's staff are here. that they could probably hardly get up this morning, but they got themselves to this hearing. and they stood by cindy. and i just want to say that as hard as it is for so many of us to go on today -- and it is really, really hard -- that i can't imagine a more perfect action to be taking this morning than

to be reappointing cindy alias to the police commission. and i also want to thank reginald daniels and marilyn marelo and gloria barry for being here and for your application for applying again. you three are absolutely extraordinary. and i could tell that in two seconds from hearing all three of you speak. and we have so much talent in this city. and we have so many opportunities. so please don't let this stop you from applying again and again. not only to this seat, but to many others because we need your talent and your life experience and your perspective in this city really, really badly. so i would ask you to please apply again for other bodies, and i just want to really thank you for being mere an here and

applying for this position. [please stand by]

. >> chair ronen: and she's not going to back down, and she's not going to be quiet, and sometimes, she's not going to be popular, but she's going to do it any way because that's who cindy elias is, that's how she was trained by her boss, jeff adaci. and jeff, your work is not going to stop for two seconds even when we feel punched in the gut and can hardly wake up, we're not going to stop. we're not going to stop for a second. [applause] >> chair ronen: so with that, i would like to make a motion to send forward the appointment of cindy elias to the police commission with a positive

recommendation. without objection, that motion passes. [applause] >> chair ronen: mr. clerk, can you please call item number two. >> clerk: item 2 is an ordinance expanding eligibility for the employment and assistance programs, the cash assistance link to medi-cal program and the supplemental security income pending program. >> chair ronen: thank you. and we have susie smith from h.s.a. agency to present. thank you so much for being here. >> yeah. i'm deputy director for policy and planning. trent unfortunately had to be in sacramento today, so i'm stepping in and recognize this is a hard act to follow, but want to explain a little bit. this legislation is a technical fix to the county adult assistance program, capp, so it's a little bit complicated, so i want you to bear with me about the background of capp

and the interplay of state law. as i'm sure you're aware. capp is an assistance program for adult without dependent individuals. the goal of the program is to -- for people who are able to work, to help them with barriers to employment, vocational assessment, and get them jobs. and for people who are unable to work because of disability, get them on s.s.i. disability benefits. those are the two goals, and to do that, there are four subprograms that get at that end. three of the four are governed by local ordinance, and one is governed by state law. and so what -- the four different program -- the four different subprograms. first is the general assistance program, and that provides short-term cash assistance and

support services for indigent adults, and it is state governed and pssh "bohemian rhapsody" did you locally funded. people on g.a. or general assistance typically quickly transition to one of the other programs which are governed by local ordinance and funded by local ordinance. so the second component of capp is the personal assistance program or pays, and that's our workforce development program. the third is our supplemental income program, and that -- we put in their application for s.s.i., and during that time, they're able to get cash assistance, so it's building the case for s.s.i. application through. and then, the fourth is what we call calm, or cash assistance linked to medi-cal.

and this is for people who are not eligible for s.s.i. but disabled because of immigration status. the fourth i'm sure you're familiar with is calworks. calworks provides services and income for parents and children under the age of 18. there's a 48 month or four year time limit on calworks. so after a calworks parent reaches the time limit, he or she can receive cash for his children or her children but not for themselves. so the state law -- state welfare and institutions code which governs general assistance and calworks forbids parents or children receiving calworks after the four year

time limit. this is even if the kid under 18 is in the care and custody of that parent. so we can't change the state law here, obviously, but what this law would do would change the other three components of capp so that a single adult who has a kid under 18, but that kid is not in their care and control, and that adult had reached the limit -- the four year time limit for calworks can receive the other three components. okay. so it's -- it's -- i had to explain all that in order to explain that legislation. but happy to answer any questions, and again, it's a technical fix that impacts -- really, we haven't seen many cases. it's been from two to ten a year where we've capped an item for calworks, and we have to deny them for capp because of this issue with state law that

was replicated for county ordinance. there are people that are ineligible that apply. happy to answer any questions. >> chair ronen: all right. so any questions? no? no questions. this makes total sense, and i really appreciate you bringing this forward, and i would be happy to cosponsor this legislation. i think it's really important, and i appreciate you filling this -- this small but very important gap. >> oh, thank you. happy that you would be a cosponsor. >> chair ronen: thank you. is there any member of the public who would like to comment on this item? if so, will ache have two minutes. seeing none, public comment is closed. -- if so, you'll have two minutes. seeing none, public comment is closed.

[gavel]. >> chair ronen: on this item? without objection, this item moves forward with a positive recommendation. [gavel]. >> chair ronen: thank you, miss smith. mr. clerk, can you please read item number three. >> clerk: would you like me to read all the a-b items or just all at one time because we have some applicants that are applying for all three. >> chair ronen: i have a question for the city attorney. is it possible for an applicant to serve on more than one seat because i know there's one applicant that has has applied to all three seats. >> mr. givner: deputy city attorney jon givner. applicants can apply for multiple seats, and then, the board can kind of mix and match, deciding who fits into what seat, but i believe each person is applying to serve on

a single seat. >> chair ronen: oh . i mean given that there are three assessment appeal boards, can a person serve on different boards? >> mr. givner: i don't believe so. >> chair ronen: okay. okay. thank you. and so mr. clerk, i'm sorry, are you asking if you want me to -- if you want me to ask you to read items three, four, and five together? >> clerk: yes. >> chair ronen: sure. >> clerk: item number four -- actually, item number three is a hearing to consider appointing two members, term ending september 6, 2021, two alternate members terms ending september 6, 2021, to the assessment appeals board number

two, and item four is a hearing to consider appointing two members, term ending september 6, 2021, and two alternate members, term ending september, 2023. >> chair ronen: okay. the way i'll do this is i'll call up the members to the boards to which they're applying to. so if scott spertzel, kristina cam pan i can't, aa, kristina-

bella come up, please. >> good morning, supervisors. when i was an alternate, i had the opportunity to work with both board one and board two, primarily because three is a newer board. you'll hear from a lot of applicants that are existing commissioners. it is a great group that we currently have, and the few that i haven't worked with, i'm looking forward to having the opportunity, my background, i'm a certified public accountant and a certified public examiner. so i'm eligible for this board because i'm a c.p.a. i think we're a good board because we have a mix of c.p.a.s, lawyers, and valuation experts. sometimes we get more of one than the other, but currently, we have a good mix. i think that covers my presentation. if there's any questions, i'm happy to answer them. >> chair ronen: thank you. any questions? no.

thank you so much. >> thank you. >> chair ronen: next applicant. >> supervisors, how are you? my name's ed campana. i live in san francisco, been a member of the board for the last six years. board two, wound up working as an alternate on board one. wound up being reappointed to board one as a permanent member. my experience is i've had 30 years as a real estate broker, lived in noe valley for all those 30 years, and worked well with the board. it requires some experience, and requires getting along with three other egos or two other egos at the time. i'm glad to answer any questions you might have with regard to my reappointment if

you have any. >> chair ronen: thank you. good morning. >> good morning. thank you. so i'm christie. i'm actually only interested in one board, but yes, i'm applying to the three. but any way, so i'm currently on board three, but my term's expiring for board three, so i'm applying for board one. >> chair ronen: but of the three boards, your first choice would be to continue on board three. >> no. my first choice would be board one, then board two, then board three would be my choices. i've enjoyed board three, but i would like to move to board two or one. they're just a little bit typically larger properties. my experience, i'm a certified general appraiser and been in real estate over 30 years in

commercial, residential, and investment. and i think being an appraiser is generally official because you're comparing what the investor and public says the property is worth. it's something i've enjoyed doing, so if you have any questions, thank you. >> chair ronen: all right. excuse me, miss nelson? >> supervisor walton: just a quick question, miss nelson. would you rather serve as a permanent member of one of the appeals boards or an alternate? >> i don't know exactly what the time commitment is, but i'm open to either two. i guess my first preference

would be an alternate. thank you. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. is mr. paul bellar here? is there anyone from the investment appeals board that might be able to speak on his behalf? >> i'm sorry. no. my name is dawn duran, and i'm the assessor for the investment appeals board, and i was going to answer the question about the difference between regular board members and alternates for the rules committee. >> chair ronen: okay. sure. >> regular board members are scheduled in a regular alternating pattern on our calendar, so they are actually scheduled in a regular pattern. alternates are usually called in when regular board members are not able to attend their

board hearings as scheduled. so that's pretty much what the difference is between the two. and i'm here to answer any further questions that chair ronen, supervisor walton, or supervisor mar might have. >> supervisor walton: so when i look at investment appeals board, i see mr. spertzel. are you allowed to serve as a regular and alternate at the same time? >> no, he served as seat six. i believe his name is still there as the vacant seat.

that seat has not been filled since he was appointed to board two -- to seat two as a regular board member. i believe that's why he's still list there had on seat six. >> chair ronen: good question. thank you, mr. walton. thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> chair ronen: okay. let's move onto assessment appeals board two, and we'll call up the candidates. anyone who is here, welcome to come on up. >> good morning, supervisors ronen, walton, and mar. my name is luisa mendoza, and it's an honor to be here

seeking appointment to board number two. i own and operate a mortgage company, and i also do a lot of property -- certified property manager, and i've done appraisals in the past. my experience as a property manager seeing -- you know, working with the rent board, that affects the property values in the city. it's now becoming with -- with what's going on in the city, it's now becoming challenging and seeing the trends of what's happening. it will be a challenge to serve on the board as we see this market trend that's expected

pretty soon. thank you. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. any questions? >> dawn duran again, administrator. regretfully, two -- two board members, mr. hershowitz and miss chung had sent in e-mails earlier, indicating that they were not able to attend this morning's hearing. i would read their statements on their behalf but unfortunately i no longer have them. i submitted them to the clerk and i believe to your offices. i do, however -- miss joyce lewis was here earlier, unfortunately, she had to leave, and she did ask me to read something on her behalf. so for miss lewis, her qualifications, i am an incumbent on assessment board two as an alternate. i am a licensed attorney with

the state bar of california. professionally, it's been a privilege to work in public service at the local and federal levels. i assist family quaintances with personal real estate matters. as far as goals, my goal is to continue engagement and service for the government and residents of san francisco, the assessment appeals board offers me opportunity to meet people from all dedicated walks of life as well as the san francisco city attorney's office. while serving as a hearing or commission officer, it's been a pleasure listening to many unique and personal stories. some lessons learned are people desire an opportunity to be heard and respected. number two, assessment appeals hearings can be used as an opportunity to educate the public about property taxation, and number three, the board is a highly and respected board,

staffed by excellent administrative staff. it is an honor to serve the city and county of san francisco. thank you. and i can hand this to the clerk. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. >> thank you. >> chair ronen: appreciate you reading that for her. >> thank you. >> chair ronen: okay. and the last applicant that we haven't heard from is estrella bryant or estrella bryant. good morning. how are you? pull the microphone. >> thank you. i would like to be reinstated to board three for assessment appeals board, which i have the term expires in september of last year, and i'm going on my second term, and i have lived in san francisco for 55 years, and 35 years at my current

address on the potrero hill, district ten. i have been with the board, and i had my experience working for melvin belli offices. i had some experiences with kpmg for doing taxes with bank accounts. i have my education, bachelor's degree in accounting, and i majored in banking and finance. i have certificates in general institute banking doing trust accounts, conservatorships, and also conservator for the city of san francisco. i'm also married commissioner in the city of san francisco for 15 years, and i would like to be on the board again, and it was a pleasure serving with the appeals board.

>> chair ronen: thank you so much. any questions, colleagues? no questions? thanks so much for being here. thank you. >> thank you. >> chair ronen: thank you. all right. i think we've heard from all of the applicants that are present, so now, i will open up this item for public comment. is there any member of the public who would like to speak on items three, four, or five? >> hi. gloria berry here. i would like to speak on behalf of paul bellar. i communicated with him a lot last year. i don't know a lot of the details of what this board would be doing, but i'm sure equity is at a high priority on his heart as far as doing the right thing. thank you. >> chair ronen: i appreciate that. thank you so much. is there any other member of the public who would like to

speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. [gavel]. >> chair ronen: colleagues, the only question that i have is about mr. bellar, because he did not return calls today when we reached out for him, is that correct, mr. clerk, that you reached out and hadn't heard from him? >> clerk: i have not received any message from mr. bellar. >> chair ronen: okay. but miss berry did speak very well on his behalf. so i'm wondering what you -- what you think. >> supervisor mar: actually, i did have a question about mr. bellars application, as well. maybe it's for the -- i'm sorry. i forget your name. -- about the administrator for the board. he seems to be the only one that's being considered that's not an incumbent, is that correct? >> i believe so, yes.

>> supervisor mar: and i wanted to see if he meets sort of the minimum qualifications? >> i believe according to his application, i don't think we would have submitted it to the rules committee if he didn't meet the qualifications. i believe he also -- i don't have his applications -- oh, here, i do. he is a licensed california real estate appraiser. he did submit his form 700, and he did submit a copy of his real estate license from the bureau of real estate appraisers. so it has an effective date of september 17 and an expiration date of 2019. i do believe the qualifications state that they have to have a minimum of five years

experience. i don't know by looking at his license -- his license expires in two years, so i don't know if he -- if this is a renewal or if that's just the term, and he's been appointed longer. that, i can't unfortunately speak to by looking at his paperwork. i'm sorry. and i haven't had a dialogue with him regretfully. >> chair ronen: thank you. thank you for that. >> supervisor mar: that's helpful. >> chair ronen: supervisor walton? >> supervisor walton: thank you. i do know mr. bellar. he's a resident in my district, and he's been who's been actively involved in the past year in trying to do more in the community and do more for the public good, and he is someone who i think will step up and does have the qualifications, so i will be supporting -- well, i do have

a -- a motion to make that includes his name. >> chair ronen: make that motion? >> supervisor walton: sure. so -- and i am -- i move that -- as we look at assessment appeals board one, that we move forward with a positive recommendation mr. spertzel for seat two, mr. campana for seat five, miss nelson for vacant seat six, and mr. bellar for vacant seat eight. >> chair ronen: without objection, that motion passes. [gavel]. >> chair ronen: do you want to keep going, mr. walton? >> supervisor walton: so for assessment appeals board two, i'd like to make a motion that we move forward with a positive recommendation for the -- miss mendoza for seat one, mr.

hershkowitz for seat five, miss lewis for seat six, and miss chung for seat seven. >> chair ronen: without objection, that motion passes. and assessment appeals board three. >> supervisor walton: and for appeals board three, i want to make a motion that we move miss bryant forward with a positive recommendation for seat five. >> chair ronen: without objection, that motion passes unanimously. [gavel]. >> chair ronen: thank you so much, everyone, for coming and for your service to the city. we appreciate it. mr. clerk, can you please call item number six. >> clerk: item number six is a hearing to appoint one member, term ending 2020, to the parks

and recreation committee. there is one applicant. >> chair ronen: miss aragon? >> good morning, supervisors. my name is wendy aragon. i -- when -- the seat had been vacant for a while, supervisor fewer asked me about -- and asked me if i would be interested based on the work that i do, and my being an alumnus of habitat board commissions leadership institute. so i was happy to serve because my term expired last year, and time just goes by so fast. but just a little bit about my experience. as i said, i am an alumni of

boards and commissions leadership institute which trains community leaders to serve on boards, commissions, and leadership panels. when we were looking for a nominee organizations, we looked for organizations in the richmond district, and sandy did not feel any of them would want to nominate me, so we looked at poder, and they nominated me without hesitation for work that i've done in the past. we hold park and recs for work that they've done on community issues. i've challenged our department head, phil ginsburg, that everybody could walk to a park, rec center and open space within ten minutes of their home. that while true, for many people, that is not a safe