hsoc is not adequately meeting its primary goal of assisting homeless persons in assisting to end their homelessness. you heart today that is the primary goal set out by hsoc presenters here. this is all from internal documents that law students at u.c. berkeley have received through a sunshine act request. so as we see here, these are just slides stating that this is their primary goal, to assist homeless folks, and that sfpd under lines here on the bottom is that their engagement enforcement is the last resort to respond to criminal issues. however from the evidence that we've received, and i think we can ask -- i hope there's some questions about this, that this is actually an sfpd led

initiative we have commander lozar here. he is the incident commander, so as we're aggressating all of these calls, the person who's at the helm of this program right now is a member of the san francisco police department, not a member of, say, a social service division of the city of san francisco such as the department of public health or the department of homelessness and supportive housing. when we look at documents of what the hsoc process is, this is also an internal document here of how most of these are going to work because there just aren't enough hot team members to go out on these shifts. as you'll see, we go step by step here, and it's a coordination largely between d.p.w. and the sfpd, there's no mention of d. ph or services or mention of adequate time and notice or housing and shelter

plan for homelessness here. and this is just one of the images that was taken but from the analyst to the ---analysis to the largest staffing within hsoc is within the sfpd. and i really want to spend a little more time on this issue of the services that are being offered, and i think supervisor ronen and supervisor haney are asking the right questions that we all need to be paying more attention to on this because we often here that services are offered before a citation is given, but what are the services? we've already heard here, confirming this, that the services offered are extremely temporary, one to seven days, and all shelter offered on the streets is at the expense of those on the shelter wait list,

so yeah, we're following the boise ruling that we can't cite or arrest people without offering shelter, but we're reserving welfare system for police encounters, and these are pushing back people who are waiting every night, hundreds of people sleeping in chairs who cannot access a one-night bed who want to use it. those suffering from mental health conditions or drug addiction may have their symptoms exacerbated because of these conditions, and the success rate is very low of getting folks into these shelters. jennie will talk a little bit more about that more in a moment, but you can see from the presentation we've already received, you know, there are only 15 seven-day beds set

aside for them, and people are just not taking them. the reason people aren't taking them is the problems that have been pointed out by both supervisors ronen and haney here. it's not a rational decision for folks on the street to give up their tent and belongings to go into a place where they know they're going to be back on the streets shortly after. and so we -- we begin this per spective that what they are -- perspective that what they're talking about is in the police's own homeless services. this sadly is the typical response. second is that hsoc is not meeting its objectives of community engagement. this is from an operational recommendation of the hsoc policy group where they discuss that it would be good to

regular updates. it was very tough to get everyone around the table in the local homeless coordinating board meeting more recently, and the police commission requested sfpd to work with the coalition and community reformers on reforming 311 and 911 triage. no progress has been made. [please stand by] >> i think

jeff mentioned something like 27 of thesen campment resolution teams had occurred. these do somewhat follow these strategies, but as you've seen out of the huge numbers presented here, that is not the

norm. that is a unique set of circumstances where they're following those guidelines, so i'll turn it over to jennie now. >> clerk, do you have the other handout to do the -- we'll just do the same thing where we manually put the presentation on the thing because the -- something in the computer isn't working. supervisor mandelman asked us to present on safe camping,

sometimes referred to as sanctioned encampments. we figured the best way to do it is three different threads where we look at what's the best terms in removing encampmen encampments and sanctioned encampments. when we're looking at humane approaches to encampments, we can talk about it as two tales. we have a great model that i wanted to draw attention to, which was done in 2015 under bevan dufty at king street. many of the residents were severe methamphetamine addicts. that encampment had been removed several times and people kept coming back, so

bevan stepped in and took leadership around trying to follow the federal guidelines, got extensive input from campers from housed people in the area, gave notice, basically secured a church to move people in and these very large storage containers to house people's belongings, and then people were moved into housing after that. it was 100% successful. it was i think an amazing example how we can do things right. just want to compare to the mayor farrell that happened on mission street about a year ago, on may 24, in the mission district. we had a situation where you had very large number of tents, about 125. there was not proper notice given. the outreach workers gathered in one location that nobody really knew about and handed out fliers for a seven-day mat.

we of course had 1,000 people on the wait list for shelters. the result for that was we got six people placed into shelter. so the remainder of people -- we're talking about 120 tents, upwards of 200 people just moved to another block or surrounding neighborhood. the basis of this is we want the city to follow the federal guidelines, give notice, lead with social services, following the proet proet cals around handling property -- the proper protocols around handling property. i wanted to point out is the second example is what typically happens. what we've gotten from the internal documents is police use 647-e's which are misdemeanor lodging charges that can actually go to jury trials if the prosecutor decides to prosecute? they sto'ed prosecuting this

summer, but the process is still -- it's a way for them to confiscate your property. also, we're seeing in our practice regular, regular destruction of property, rarely bagging and tagging. we've been spending a lot of time at the d.p.w. yards. we very rarely are able to get property back for folks, and that's the typical practice that we see. in fact we also know that the workers are told just to throw out people's stuff because that's been reported to us on many, many occasions. so we've got barricades up to prevent people from reencampment. this has created some a.d.a. issues, some very rarely following the first example and more in the second. we know that a lot of folks out

there, congretaggate shelter i not appropriate. we firmly believe that all humans have a fundamental right to safe and decent housing, we do not believe this is a permanent solution, but we do believe we can do this and get folks some sleep and be in an area where that he have a -- yeah -- where they have a -- yeah, where they're able to sleep. we also don't see the -- caltrans, we have this law

where they can rent it for the month. we've done studies looking at the most successful models of this. the most successful are ones led by homeless people where they have determination on who gets in, length of stay, where they have the basic cooking, drinking, garbage, facilities. we believe because we don't see this as a permanent if a ilfac it should be mobile, and that the design really encourages social network. there's a number of these around. dignity village in plortland. it has no city funding or paid staff, completely run by homeless people. shared sanitation, they've got bylaws, they've got a village council. you have to be over the age of

18. they've got pieers counsels. there's right to live, and you can crash there. they've got about 100 people, and they've got people that share responsibility for being able to live on the property. nicholsville in seattle, it's on predevelopment land, you can put people there, a mixture of tents andtine tiny homes. they also have a counsel and nonprofit staff that helps them. it's just like the navigation centers where they're on these predevelopment lands, and they move as it's going through the

developing process. te tent citys three and four, i think it was supervisor mandelman who was maengsientio these are people who roam from churches to parking lots. these are creative ways for people who really -- almost everybody we know is going to take housing if they're offered. not everybody is going to live in a shelter. maybe you don't want to living in community housing, you want a modicum of privacy. if you'll go out and talk to people on the streets, you'll find this is great. so what happens when we're doing everything we can and we still have folks that are stuck outside? we can't do appropriate

response and follow the federal guidelines, right, because we don't have places for people to go. we still need to ensure that, you know, we're able to mitigate a lot of the factors that are, you know, impacting neighborhoods. so making sure we have adequate bathrooms and hand washing and communicable disease, really halting that practice of disposing of people's property and halting criminalization. so that concludes the presentation. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. if there are no questions from my colleagues, i think we should take public comment. so i'm not seeing any other questions. so i'm going to call a bunch of names, and if folks could lineup over on the right side of the chamber from -- as you're sitting.

jay lang, amy, patrick, joy, david, brad, jack, mark, carolyn. and supervisor -- or vice chair stefani has a quick question. >> supervisor stefani: thank you, through the chair, commander lozar, can i ask you a quick question about incident commander and what that actually means? >> when we put hsoc together about a year ago, we thought how can we put together a department that's organized and have an emergency management struck that you are that's -- structure that's used nationally. we gave everyone roles and the police department was really instrumental in putting the structure together. it was thought commander lozar, incident commander, this person can be ops chief, someone else

can do admin finance, that sort of things. in terms of keeping it organized and on track, it doesn't mean in the field, the police are leading this, it means in the command center, we're organized. d.e.m. has contributed so much to this process. there's a staff person that's now the manager that keeps us on track for the meetings and helps us stay organized. we found that it's more of a unified approach. in other words, the police department is not setting the pace or not dictating what other departments can do. we are all -- we have been more collaborative than i can ever remember in all my years working for the city this last year than we've ever been. it's not the police as incident command, we're not calling the shots. it's all the other agencies and all of us sitting around the table saying okay, who's going

to do what and how can we support you? that's the structure of hsoc and how it works. >> supervisor stefani: thank you. that was my experience, but i think i'll withhold my questions. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. i believe supervisor walton has a quick question or comment. >> supervisor walton: please accept my apology to our very patient public that's here today. quick question to commander lozar. quake scenario. when you say you've -- quick scenario. when you say you've gone through the motions and taken the individual. >> do you mean situations where there's shelter and the person is not service ready for shelter? >> supervisor walton: correct. >> the overwhelming majority of

times, they're issued a citation. we do take the tent as evidence in our case. we have public works assisting us in bagging and tagging it. we keep it separate storage at department of public works. they're given a receipt, and if the case is dismissed by the district attorney's office, the person is allowed to go to evidence just like it was bag and bagged and release it per public policy. >> supervisor walton: so they can stay where they are? >> we don't have a right to say you can't stand here and you can't be here. of course we don't want them to build a new encampment using a tent, tarp, or any other structure, but we issue a citation, we'll cleanup the area and move forward from there and hope that they're service ready next time around.

>> supervisor mandelman: all right. so public comment time. for those of us who managed to stay with us four hours, we appreciate it. speakers will have two minutes. we'll ask that you state your first and last name and speak clearly into the microphone. no applause or booing is permitted. in the interest of the time, speakers are encouraged to avo avoid repetition of previous statements. go ahead. >> my name is jay lang. i spend half my time in d-3 and the other half in d-7. this interdistrict squabbling, wh who shares the load? y i come here today because i'm trying to raise kids in the city. i've been in this city for 18

years. i came here from kentucky. i spent 25 years trying to get here from kentucky. you all understand why i tried to get here from kentucky. how many of us are trying to raise kids here in the city? how many of us? five? okay. so for those of us that have kids, if our kids are trying cigarettes, if they're taking a fork and they're stabbing the fork inside the electrical outlet, what do we do? how do we handle that? do we tell our kids, oh, yeah, you know what? here, let me give you a separate space, you can stab the fork. let me buy you some cigarettes because i don't approve of your behavior, but i'm going to buy you some cigarettes because i can't control your behavior? is that what we do? is that how we teach our kids? i didn't come here and live here for 18 years and spend all my life to be a parent to show

my kids how to smoke cigarettes. and so this problem that we have today, mr. fireman, i apologize, i can't remember your name. you hit the nail on the head. the nail on the head was the third scenario, when we're finding homeless people, they accept to go into the homeless navigation center, but once in the navigation center, we find out they're not there for the help that we taxpayers are funding. that taxpayers that i spend three months out of my life every single year to pay my property tax bill, the homeless person comes to the navigation center and said i just wanted a seven-day bed. i didn't want help. mr. kozinski, he showed reams of data. i don't know if i believe all the data. i share the same questions as

all of you. that data was a bit shifty to me, but the one thing that struck out at me is sf is bearing more than its fair share of the load. 40% of the regional homeless are here in san francisco. another 40% in contra costa and the other counties. why is it only our problem through our generosity to allow the seven-day beds for people that don't want help, and then, we spin our wheels, and we try to figure out why is it that we can't get more navigation centers built? why is that? i'll tell you why. it's 'cause the constituents, your constituents, supervisors, all of us in the city, we're sick of it. you see this list? you know where this comes from? i have another list. this is from next door. this is from next door knob

hill, d-3 -- nob hill. i posted an invitation last night -- >> clerk: thank you. thank you for your comment [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. thank you. next speaker. >> hello. amy fairways on behalf of the st. francis homelessness challenge. it is not humane to sweep people off the streets and take their location and take their belongings. sweeping people and saying get out of here is just going to move them from one place to the next. that's a quote from then board president london breed from last year in 2018. across the political spectrum, we agree we have a public

health crisis because people are living on our streets. the good news is through the work of the city and advocates, s.f. has grown our shelter capacity to 2300 and our supportive housing units to 7700 with more in the pipeline. looking at the city's pipeline and shelter beds for 2020, we know that our bet case scenario is we -- best case scenario is we cut the waiting list in half and still have people waiting on the streets. in december 2018 california permanently adopted building standards for emergency standard response that approved emergency guidelines for emergency tiny home shelter cabins, insulated tents, allowing s.f. to lease public or private land to service organizations with a license agreement, insurance, and baseline state guidelines in order to develop and operate

safe organized spaces, which is what was talked about jennifer and the coalition and is included in this definition. they operate in partnership with properties, neighbors and village residents and activate under utilized public and private land with license agreements, baseline health and safety standards, a built in process for multistakeholder input. safeorganizedspaces.org to learn more about it. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. >> hello. i'm brad marks, and i live in district two. i'm here just obviously as a concerned citizen and trying to think of new ideas to approach this problem that we have. one thing i've heard about is

when -- in some areas i've heard where homeless are, they question the homeless and find out who their relatives are and friends are and try to get that -- that contact information and can send them back to where they live. and i don't know if the city is doing anything like that, but i'd love to see it done, i'd love to help in any way that i can to get that done. i'd be willing to organize a group of people to -- 'cause i'm sure i could get, you know, 500 people to help and call up even circle around homeless to ask who their relatives are, who their friends are. i think there's something called a homeward bound program in some cities, but that could be an effective way of dealing with the homeless.

secondly is regarding -- i know the next thing we were going to talk about is more geared towards substance abuse, but i want to talk specifically about the needle exchange program and a big concern i have is all the needles found on the street and the -- i believe that the exchange program was supposed to be an exchange program, but now the city is just giving out needles. so i think those that are using the drugs are using the needles should be coming in with their needle and actually exchanging it, and maybe the city shouldn't be doing it and maybe some nonprofits should handle that going forward. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. >> clerk: through the chair, i just want just -- >> supervisor stefani: through the chair, i just wanted to let you know we do have a homeward bound program, and if you leave

me your card, i will follow up with you m. >> supervisor mandelman: next speaker. >> my name is david. i think as one of the supervisors mentioned, we are dealing with what has been called a human rights violation by the united nations. i live in the south of market which my neighborhood was changed drastically in the last five years which was pretty safe and a great environment to raise a family, to one we have skin diseases, bloodborne pathogens. this is a public health crisis on our streets that can't be allowed to continue, whether the residents of the encampments would like to stay on the streets or not. the think the thing we've got to think about is if we're

being compassionate in the long-term versus in the short-term. people need to get counseling and drug treatment and all the things that a city like san francisco should be able to provide. we can't allow people to remain on the streets just because they choose that. it's a sign of -- the addiction has gripped so many people on our streets. i understand that we've been recently given about $3 million to improve mental health services and addiction counseling. that sounds like a great opportunity for us to make a real difference here, and i'd like to thank the police department, who is a value presence within our neighborhood of south of market whenever we have problems of people being violent or otherwise out of their mind, you guys are always the first responders on the scene, and i've seen you deal with it in

a -- [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. thank you. [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is carolyn kennedy. i live near dolores park and i chair the delores heights neighborhood group. in the past few years, i've seen a growing increase in homelessness in my community. last year, the situation escalated when we saw people camping at dolores park and in adjacent areas west of the castro. i believe they were pushed there because of the cleanups. community leaders across the delores and castro area contacted our supervisor mandelman, and since september, he's engaged, we community

leaders have attended meetings to -- with him to share information and report on progress. i commend all of these in d.p.w., d.p.h., parks and rec. they are dedicated and compassionate professionals. however after five months, walking my neighborhood even finding more 311 reports and more dangers, i'm even more frustrated. the city clean the homeless encampments up and move them along again and again and again. they are at rock bottom, not just homeless, but mental health and drug addiction. nearly all of them were offered shelter last fall, turned them down. we need meaningful metrics and we need to close the gap in the process that today's hearing

has -- has revealed. but most importantly, we need leadership to take those tough assistances, take those to -- stances, take those to the next level. we need people thinking together about how we can use -- [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: next speaker. >> brian edwards, d-5. we're blinded by numbers. there might be at any given time 300 spaces for treatment beds. that's 4700 people that couldn't get services if they wanted to, if they don't want to. the capacity isn't there. one of the -- i can't believe how high you can shovel and stack things. commander lozar today was talking about his policy. his policy is completely different than what is actually

going on out there. so many people are getting cited or threatening citations. tents are being taken away. hsoc is great. it's great that there is communication and coordination. sfpd should not be the lead of that. it should be offering leading with services, leading with help, leading with linkage, not from the police. you -- one of your slides, you had three slides cited an almost 60% reduction of 311 calls in three years. that's meaningless. that's absolutely meaningless. you can take that slide out of your presentation. one good stat is i've just reduced your slide presentation by 33%. it's ridiculous, the amount of just horseshit that was said today. the statistics that these guys come up with are not what's actually going on on the ground. it just blows my mind. it just absolutely blows my mind. that's all i wanted to say.

hsoc is a great step in the first direction, but having the police lead it doesn't do anything. [please stand by]

the sweeps, which people are saying it's not happening and it's not policy. when we see it in reality happen, commander lazar, i heard you talk about your policy. i didn't hear a lot of reality. that's all i want to say. i think i'm not the most knowledgeable person in the room but i can detect bullshit when i see it so thank you. >> thank you, next speaker.

>> christopher mika. and henry canolowitz. kelly cutler kevin carole. >> hello, my name is c.w. johnson and i want to applaud your passion and your fire. just someone who is homeless and even for 15 years, i just want to say a few observations i've witnessed over a period of time. one is, we need three-level housing from shelter to affordable apartments. we need job centers to help train for today's jobs market. continue job creativity for the city, homeless and low income and having a fast track for people with mental health challenges and drug addictions. increasing or spending current

services. four is when we have funds that are allocated by the people in this city, they should be used in timely manner due to crisis. not to four years later when the crisis is supposed to be over. five, let's decriminalize homelessness. people are struggling with mental health and substance abuse. we need to be helped. we need help and compassion, not hurt and harassment. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hi, spencer hudson. supervisor mandelman, i am dismayed at the comments you made to the examiner yesterday and some of your comments this morning. you are quoted saying homelessness is a did h detrimeo people on the street. i think you may be confusing

voters with constituents. voter or not, homeowner or not, wealthy or not, we are all your constituents. all of your neighbors and people in d8 are your constituents and they deserve your equal attention. second, did h for me a homeownea business owner, a wealthy white guy, i'm secure. homelessness is not a a a. owning a home is unlikely to kill me. people died in san francisco

because they have no home and they're living in the streets. that's 400 too many. it's a disgrace. thank you. >> next speaker. >> hi, i'm flo kelly and i volunteer with the coalition on homelessness. today, supervisor brown said that homelessness is not a police problem. san francisco laws make homeless a crime, therefore, it's a police problem. in sf it's a crime to live in a vehicle and it's a crime for folks who appear to be homeless to sit and lie on the streets or in a park. some people are allowed to live

in san francisco and others by ver ut over youvirtue are breako live here. when i attended community meetings, some say the homeless folks must go because they're breaking the law by living here. san diego erased their law that made it a crime not to live in a house. san francisco must do the same. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. it's a beautiful, rainy day. i think i'm going to give up my home and go camp out in the marina and sacrifice my mental and physical health and putting me at risk of encounters with police and public works. said no homeless person ever! i am formerly homeless. while yes, tents are inhumane, i agree, taking away those tents and people's medication and other possessions is even more fucking inhumane.

i have never forget the story of a usautistic women, it's just sh fucking bullshit. we need safe camping sights and safe parking sites. we need to lead with services and not with the fucking police and d.p.w. we drove the homeless people out of parks at night in 2013, now they're in the neighborhoods. we sweep non residential areas. now they're in our neighborhoods. maybe the reason why we take up rest in parks and non residential areas is because we don't want to be fuckig detected and people are trying to make the best out of a bad situation. i will conclude by saying that i think the ward for most use less department has based on what i seen today, goes to jeff

kaczynski. thank you. >> next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is kevin carole and i'm the president of the hotel council for san francisco. thank you for calling this hearing. we agree the crisis on the streets is something we should all be very, very concerned with. i do want to thank the departments that have been working together and especially the team that works on the healthy streets operations as well. i know jeff, your department and then commander lazar and the teams that are working together obviously it's a hard situation to deal with and making sure that everybody is offered services and doing that first. we definitely would support the hosc team and we want this city to be a city of innovation and i agree with everybody you've said. there's no reason why we shouldn't make this happen. i think what you are hearing today, and something needs to change. i'm a resident of this city and i've lived here most of my life. it would be important for all of us. i do think leading with services and the work you are doing to make sure it happens is

important. thank you for your time. thank you for calling this hearing today. >> thank you. next speaker. >> my name is tom shaw from d8. just as a suggestion, these are thoughts you may have had with the department, is the empty pottery barn store could be an alternative for some housing, some occupational housing? also, there's everett middle school with their parking lot. there's mission high with the parking lot. these are areas in district 8 that could be examined. there are many others. we are seeing our district with the overflow of people coming in. we all know this. i really thank you for having this meeting. and having discussions that we're having. thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. casandra costello, gregory

carry, del seemore, cheryl trappers, christopher kirby, david goldman, kenneth cone, michael lions, renee decasio, david segagu, brian edwards. i think that's it. next speaker. >> hi, good afternoon, supervisors and department heads. i'm casandra from the san francisco travel association. we represent over 1300 business partners and 25 million visitors who come to the city. thank you for holding this hearing today. we agree that we are in a housing and health crisis. i commend the city and all of you for looking at creative and innovative ways to combat these complicated issues.

although hoc brings key city departments together. we heard that folks cannot point to a more collaborative time in the past that they've been able to work with city government and folks on the street who are most vulnerable to provide services. we are working inter departmentally and be innovative in ways to serve our neighbors and continue to lead with compassion and services. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> thank you, supervisors. my name is gregory and i'm the chief of patrol for castro community on patrol. we're one of 12 organizations that make up the group castro cares, which is a program that we started in 2015 to help improve the quality of life issues for both people living on the streets as well as the residents and merchants of areas. the reality is that there are at least four different types of homeless populations.

we see song term san francisco residents with no shelter and a group we call travellers that come introduce our neighborhood with other cities and they're here for just a short period of time. those who are eligible for a night-time bed in a shelter or navigation center and four, those who are in support of housing such as s.r.o. hotel rooms. the last two groups or on the streets because they're not allowed to be or not expected to be in their shelters or rooms for 24 hours a day. this suggests the need for some type of day-time drop-in center like the one provided by north beach citizens to allow people to find connections to services as well as comfortable spaces to socialize and find services such as access to laundries. we also recognize the lack of capacity in nearly all of the homeless services.

people must wait weeks or months to begin improving their situation. this includes the wait list for addiction or mental health issues. we would support some temporary use of the ability to have encampment in an area that provides shelter -- i'm sorry, sanitation, rest room facilities and heating food without the danger of starting fires, which is happened frequently with encampments and we could encourage these ideas be used are found. >> thank you, next speaker. >> i've been listening to department after departments, torontoing odrowning on about ty reduce homelessness. you think they would find each

other to find a single, solitary homeless person to help and yet homelessness grows. this is very frustrating. why have all these efforts seem to not work? i've got to conclude that ultimately you are not going to solve this problem medium range let alone long range. the city's real goal is profitable corporate wealth, profitable real estate, profitable restaurants, and even profitable monday profits. with all this poverty and displacement that this agenda entails. this is been in place for decades and the city is either ignored it or encouraged it and now the chickens have come home to roost. >> caro lin car caroline.

i'm familiar enough with the center of the city. i'm dismayed today because, if this is a crisis, there's only a few supervisors here and a few agency heads here. i rearranged five meetings so that i could be here and speak. thank you for those of you listening. my boss has a phrase, he says hope isn't a strategy. hope for 500 beds bit end of the summer is not a strategy, what i don't hear today from any of the agencies here, with the exception of hsoc is collaboration across agencies, a willingness to stop digging your feet in on your silo agency and start sharing information and create a strategy. take off your hats. take off your injury is dictions. after the help that you need. don't do this one-off ad hoc on

solving this person and that person's problem. work with the supervisors to get you the resources you need. you need an objective. thank you very much to the supervisors who ask for the data and the metrics that are the most meaningful. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker. >> >> christopher kirby. district 8. i'm a 30-year resident of the san francisco. i'm blessed to be a homeowner. i acknowledge the crisis. the one thing that i would like to raise, and i don't think it's been talked about is the issue of aggression. aggressive behavior by homeless individuals. on my street alone, there are people who are attacking

neighbors of mine, picking them up. we've had to get stay away orders against people. i think it's problematic, obviously. those are the people that presumably aren't -- well, those are the people that presumably have mental health issues and so to that extent -- and there's another hearing scheduled for the 5150s, et cetera. but those are the people in which i think beds in terms of shelter beds are not the be all and end all. i think there needs to be beds that are associated specifically with mentally disabled people. i was quite excited to hear fron why and i thought it was under gavin newsome, the homeward

bound problem. it's terrific and it was a mistake to be given up. i'm thrilled to hear it's still going. >> next speaker. >> my name is sonia and i live in district 6. this hearing has been excruciating. i'm so glad to hear that building a shelter and housing a priority for the board of directors. it's excruciating because a month ago, when the mayor came to the board and said, let's spend the entire surplus on housing and shelter, the board said no. supervisors mandelman and ronen, who called this hearing, and spoke at length at the beginning about how important it is to treat this like an urgent emergency and build housing and shelters supported a proposal to give $50 million to pg&e. which is it? is this important or is it

important to score points against the mayor? hopefully this hearing is due to a change of heart. i was naive when the mayor proposed that. i really thought at first, great, this is something everyone is going to get together on. we did eventually go with the mayor's priorities and they are everyone's priorities to build housing and shelter. but getting there required a lot of organizing on the part of activists including myself. and the organizing that it took to make sure that the board of supervisors heard that housing and shelter is in deed the number one priority for san francisco, was organizing that took away from other great proposals. so, please don't be the barrier in the way of getting what we need to build the housing and shelter. money is one thing. we have a 300 million-dollar bond going on the ballot. everyone supports that. why not a $1 billion bond? and literally why not?

who exactly would be against that? to zoning reform. i wrote to mandelman's office about legalizing affordable housing all over the city. i look forward to a response. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon board and city members. my name is dale seemore. i'm a homeless activist. i'm also a business owner. it's a really sensitive position to be in. for example, last sunday, i came to work on a sunday and my office doorway was completelien camped. it was raining like hell and i didn't have the heart to ask them to leave. i was pissed because i couldn't get in my office but i did not have the heart to ask them to leave. sometimes i'm in a mixed situation. i'm asking that the government here today is taking politics off of that guy laying in the alley. he don't know whether he is a monitor or conservative or whatever. he is wet and cold.

let's take the politics out of this. you know, commander lazar, and i feel you and i agree with everything you said about your officers and the officers knowing the policy. man, day-to-day i'm out there commander and i'm seeing officers that are not abiding by your policies. maybe that's a good-cop-bad-cop situation but they're not abiding by it. i'm not hearing it from someone, i'm out there seven days a week, walking and talking and trying to get people in out of the cold. i see officers come by and say get the hell out of here or you are going to jail. that was recently as yesterday. i know this is not something old. i commend you for everything you do. we've known each other a long time and you know how much i respect you as an officer and a good friend. some of your officers aren't doing it. i just want to invite you to take a look -- sometimes our housing and our capacity shelter

is under our nose. 300 feet down stairs is brooks hall. 94,000 square feet. 94,000 square feet and you got old desks piled up in there. it's fireproof. it has exits. it has bathrooms. it has plumbing. it has electricity. it has heat. it can hold up to 1700 seats. >> are there any other members of the public that would like to speak on this item? >> i think the one system solution is a pretty good idea and you can expand the budget in the sense of streamlining expenses. the city is presently scheduled to invest $21 million to finance construction at 58 permanent affordable housing units, at the same time, 23 million is consumed in medical provider calls for arguably racially

segregated mental health programs and four year's time the $21 million invested might be housing. 100 or more individuals and permanent affordable housing structures where as 91 million will have been the expended on the 80 patients in this facility without having constructed anything in the city. i don't believe we can afford something that lucrative. 91 million could provide the construction of 500 permanent affordable housing units for 1250 individuals and i think narrowly, tailoring the potential bidders in some of these contracts makes it impossible for all but one bidder to step forward. i suggest that you make your budget rational and if you can't demonstrate the therapeutic efficacy of culturally sensitive medical environment, then i don't understand why that would

take place. i don't know whether you can or not. i would like to see the studies. also, is that it? >> next speaker. >> is there video on here? >> can we do a -- >> a video? >> you are going to up load a video into the computer. >> it's online so i can put in the link to it. it's going to be his comment. they say sweeps don't happen but i can show you videos of it. my name is kelly cutler and i'm with the human rights homelessness. hsoc has been a huge focus for mine over the last year. i've been seeing what is going on and so