kind of an audit. what i would also like to say is that even from my own appointee who i think you heard and in the e-mail she wrote to every member of the board personally had some concerns about how vapa is recommended and funded. she told me they were not going forward. they were not about the 19-20 budget year, it was about how we can make this better in perspective years? i don't think anybody on the vapa intended for us to upend the budget this year. so what i would like to suggest is we pull this amendment back for the 19-20 budget, but that we ask the superintendent or really direct the superintendent to put forward an audit so we have much better information -- and not just vapa. i think we owe it to ourselves

to look at all funding. who decides what money goes to sports or arts and music? so rather than making a radical, to some extent, very disruptive change in the middle of the budget process that we actually use or -- our role as oversight and ask for better information and oversight so that we can make better decisions in procespective educators.

>> president cook: commissioner moliga? >> commissioner moliga: i trust my committee, that they're going to do their job and put out recommendations that are important. i know a lot of them, and their heart's in the work that they do. so for me, i was trying to ask myself, like, what's important? arts is important. p.e. is also important. p.e., just think like the hi number of diabetes and obesity in black and brown communities and the lack of support we have in addressing those issues when it comes to equity. but just being fair, being very, very fair, you know, i wasn't at the meeting last night. and you know i think for me

personally to be good stewards and board members, for me, it's important that we have a process in place that's equitiable i am very supportive of the current recommendation, but i'm more supportive of a process that's fair and equitiable. i'm just out of humility. what's the process of kicking this back to the budget

committee wen? >> it was presented for first reading, and then, we didn't -- it was presented to the community as a whole. i requested in the community as a whole, i said this feels rushed? i still have questions about how money is spent? and i was told there's not enough time. and this happens every year, and this is intentional. so i just want to. >> president cook: before you -- the actual answer is there's an april 1 deadline. >> but it was presented to us without time for the -- i specifically requested the district to present on brief's budgeting. i wants to look at it, and it was not slight -- -- i wanted to look at it, and it was not slated on the agenda -- there was no time that we agreed on the community as a whole

meeting -- >> president cook: right, but you're -- >> commissioner moliga: so what's the process about kicking this back to committee? >> president cook: there is none. it didn't go back to committee because it has to be voted on by april 1. >> we can schedule another meeting. >> i'm just trying to figure out what our options are. does it come out of legal here? what's the process here? >> so ijust to recap- this was shared as a committee as a

whole. so the prop c charter that was passed in 2014 requires a district submit a spending plan by april 1 for the upcoming fiscal year, and that is the driver. it's not to say that the spending plan could not be amended, but that that is a requirement that the initial spending plan be submitted by that date. i would like to point out, though, that the dates for the discussion of the spending plan have been on the calendar since the fall. february 26 committee as a whole, march 5, and then second meeting tonight, march 12. we'll definitely take into consideration the feedback about -- from the board and others about wanting a longer period of time to deliberate about the spending plan in the future. but i do want to just point out

that those dates have been established since the fall, and i believe those dates have been shared with all the commissioners. >> president cook: thank you, huang. i won't take to long. in terms of this process, what we're talking about tonight, what are our options? because for me, you know 2.3 is a lot of money to say we don't have the time -- i'll come back to another meeting -- to have another look. i'm very supportive of our schools, but at the same time, are we doing our due diligence of really vetting this process and making sure we think through what needs to happen. you want to talk trauma? push through things soon.

that's trauma. i know tonight. what's our options for this? >> so the board needs to take action as deputy superintendent lee said by april 1. that's the sense of urgency to have your decision tonight. . >> president cook: but just so it's clear, there was a recommendation of putting a process in place that was mentioned by commissioner norton, so it's not like this can't come back in a future year. and i think part of it -- i'm going to let you -- part of the issue about tonight's meeting was that, you know, this came off as an attack on the arts which wasn't the intention of the spending reappropriation. that's how it came off, and we heard three hours of public comment because of a poor

last-minute decision. we've heard very clearly from the community that, you know -- communication has been now made that this wasn't attacking the arts, but we have a recommendation from the superintendent about putting a process in place. dr. matthews, can you speak to that and we'll go into commissioners comments. >> absolutely. hearing the concerns and hearing the concern from the pcac around the process, we are fully committed -- staff is fully committed to moving forward processes that make it more transparent, having meetings earlier, having board meetings earlier down so it

doesn't come down to right before a budget item hassto - has to be made. we have heard the concerns that have come through. no matter what happens tonight, that commitment is going to happen regardless. i do want to say one more thing. i do think it's important that you've heard a number of the people who have spoken tonight talk about the commitment from everyone in this room understanding the importance of arts education and wanting all of our students to have that education in the fullest possible way, especially when we have a district that values equity and making sure that the students that need the most

receive the most. but that being said, i think it's important that we all come to this assuming positive intent that the people who have developed the budget, the people who work on the peef c.a.c. have come to this and just in a positive place. i've heard comments that this was intentional. in no way with my staff -- if anything, we want the board to have as much information as possible to make as informed decisions as possible. i think from staff's perspective, we believe that all of the board members are coming from a place of positive intent. my hope is we are coming from the same place that staff is working so hard to make this happen. >> commissioner collins: may i comment? >> president cook: commissioner

collins. >> commissioner collins: i've been receiving comments from peef c.a.c., and consistently -- and this is not this year, this is year after year, i've heard that -- and i wasn't ever on the peef community advisory committee, but i've heard consistently that they're not allowed to provide meaningful input in the budgeting process. and i want to quote a comment from a member this year that says i know that many of my questions cannot be answered by grilling the peef c.a.c. these are the questions that the vapa department needs to be responsible for answering directly and they have not been particularly interested in answering our questions or even presenting pe peef c.a.c. meeting. this is a consistent thing that i'm hearing, and in our discussions as a community as the whole, i ask for specific

information around who your kids are serving. my daughters were at gene parker, and they were not eligible to participate in a music program because the teacher didn't teach them the songs that they were needed in order to participate. when i demanded data district wide that showed all the schools, sanchez, el dorado, new traditions, drew, bessie carmichael, george carver, there's a pattern in these schools. these are schools where no students participated in a music program which cost a lot of money. at that time, five years ago, i raised questions, just as you are. i stood at that table, and i ses i want all students to have access to programming. and i also share a similar concern reflected by many members and also reflected in the peef c.a.c.

our district also said we give instruments to everybody. we make sure all the instruments are given out. i'm not hearing that from the peef c.a.c. there's some concerns around the information we're getting about how programs are administered. i also want to bring out we have school libraries, arts en masse. when it comes to vapa teachers, we have -- currently in our district, we have $11 is million allocated to 92 teachers insite, and we are very much supportive of those insite staff being in our schools and doing what they do. we also have 72 teacher

librarians that we're accountable for that. in p.e., we only have 51, so there is a disparity in how we're funding p.e. program, and that weight -- and unfairly so. i like the facts that folks are really fighting for our arts programs in our school. because i personally graduated from tisch school of the arts. i'm 100% of fighting for staffing in schools. we know that arts program, because it's not required. because it's required, we have p.e. teachers that are required to do the work, and we underfund that funding. it's important to have this dialogue, and it's important to have this in an equitiable

conversation. please look up the peef c.a.c. recommendation. for this -- last year, it stated in the peef c.a.c. recommendations, it says, the vapa office includes a fair number of office administrators compared to other departments. i would -- we're arguing for more teachers in schools, those are direct services, not central office administration. this is what peef says. we're also concerned that the saturday arts lab, there's concern around that, okay? so i'm going to go back and go to 2015-16. we're going to go back in time, and we're going to see -- i'm sorry. i'll go to -- this is from 2016-17. it says, the peef investment and arts teachers is a

secondary level has increased while the number of schools and other funding support for arts has decreased. while we understand the district is consistently challenged to stretch limited resources, peef was explicitly meant to increase offerings to students. we should increase funding so western ae concerned to see -- we're concerned to see inclusion for the arts center added to the budget that do not appear to provide direct services to students. the c.a.c. would like to see administrative costs for the arts center moved out of the peef center in the coming year. several years ago this recommendation was made, and yes, there's $335,000 that is still in this budget and it's money that could be spent on staffing and schools and supporting students, and the -- primary roll is to support

students. >> okay. superintendent? >> yes. i'll touch to you in a second, but i just wanted to clarify about one of the data that was requested, commissioner, and we know that there's a breadth of information that it relates to peef. it's a vast funding source covering a wide array programs, each with a lot of complexity. just in fairness, though, i do want to restate that -- that of the many questions that were raised by the board in last week's committee of the whole, that the team collectively

deferral -- you know, a lot of different staff folks did come together to make a good faith effort to respond to the questions, and that meeting took place on tuesday. by friday, you were provided 16 pages of responses to those questions. again, we know there are many more questions, and we'll continue to make a good faith effort to answer additional questions, but i just did want to speak up a bit around the staff that's been trying to answer the questions that have been coming in. i also wanted to ask mr. diaz to reiterate a point that was made in last night's committee curriculum meeting about the participation of the vapa team at the peef c.a.c., and i think it's an important point that deserves restatement tonight. >> so yesterday, i shared a point that the process for the peef c.a.c. is that after this body votes and approves the plan, we then reflect on the process and which programs we

still have lingering questions about and which programs we want to invite throughout the cleaned year. last year, vapa was not on the calendar. it was not one of the programs that the c.a.c. decided to focus on and invite throughout the year to make a presentation. prior to 18-19, the vapa department has presented almost on an annual basis. so it's not that the vapa department refuses to come, it's just that they weren't asked to come in this particular year. but they are going to make a presentation in april based on the conversations that we're having. they have been invited in april, and they are going to come and present to the c.a.c. thank you. >> president cook: commissioner sanchez, commissioner norton,

and commissioner lam. >> vice president sanchez: thank you, everybody for coming out. everybody has a lot of thoughts about this money. it's a lot of money. a little known fact. i actually helped amamiano -- tom ammiano to write the peef. this is not perfect, but any stretch. we have so much more art and music provided for our students and it's vote -- because the voters approved that by 70%. they knew that we didn't have librarians, that we didn't have artists in our schools, we didn't have dance, p.e., but rural athletics in our schools, and once they found out, they voted in large part for this. and we have what we have now, and we're having arguments about it.

but i think that one way we can handle this structurally, it has to have more teeth, so the recommendations they give more staff through a vote actually has meaning so the recommendations are actually looked at and so the board can act accordingly. [please stand by]

. >> vice president sanchez: we can deliver this to the city by april 1, and then deputy superintendent lee said we can actually amend it later, so i would propose that we go through with the recommendation and then direct staff to find the funding in the general fund to cover most of the administrative staff and then come back to amend it later once we've identified where that money's coming from. so we have a process we can

come back to. because the fact of the matter is there are things that we do in this district that are actually not necessary, and there are things that we fund that we don't need to fund, and there's other sources of money -- in fact, the new eraf money that we're going to get we might look at, as well, but i think we should move this along and we should look at it after we've -- we've passed it. >> president cook: commissioner n norton and commissioner lam? >> commissioner norton: so many things to say. so thank you, first of all, vice president sanchez. i appreciate your willingness to take a little bit more time and look at some structural

things because there hasn't been enough data delivered to the commissioners to aspire what is happening. i would just like to dig a little bit into the couple of items that the people had mentioned. there was a discussion about the 1.5 million for administration. there was discussion about the money, the 300,000 dl$300,000 funding the art center planning. there was discussion about the consultants that have been helping with the arts education master plan refresh, so all of the -- all of that money is

what kind of got lumped together in the curriculum committee's thinking for a $2.3 milli $2.3 milli $2.3 milli $2.3 million repurposing of money, and i actually think we should look at those things one at a time as opposed to directing staff to find $2.3 million in the general fund budget to replace that? there may be some that we are interested in fubding out of peef? if it's true that we've been spending $1.3 million a year on a website, then i would like to know more about that and why that continues to be a line item? i think there continues to be a discussion to be had, and i'll start by saying i think i'm still interested in paying for some of the art center planning coming out of peef because in the presentation we just got for the vision for 135 arts, it is a resource that is being conceived of to benefit every

single student in this district. i also think that we want to make sure that we do that right. we're about to embark on a really big fund raising campaign. so if we don't have a really good, solid plan for that new program, for that new school, that's going to hurt our fund raising, so i would want us to consider that? but let's talk about it. and i also think we should get an update either now or some date on the refresh arts education master plan. that is the core -- the arts education master plan, it's -- like, it's the hub of the whole wheel, and it's -- you know, it's been due for a refresh for a while. i'm a little concerned that we've been hearing about a refresh for, i think three years, and so i really do want to know kind of where that stands, why is it taking so long. it sounds like there's been some really rich conversations

from some of the public comments we've heard, but let's understand where that money is coming from. i guess i would just say i understand the spirit of the recommendation that was made but i also -- it feels very -- it just feels like what are we trying to accomplish here? and to say, you know, we're going to create this whole bucket of things that we don't like and put them into here and put them into p.e. feels very arbitrary, honestly. i'm not sure that i want to spend $2.3 million on p.e. i also want to say my own -- i don't know. that's just me, maybe. my own kids -- my daughter, many of you know went through the district with an i.e.p. from kindergarten all the way through 12th grade? i will say that her experience at washington was wonderful, and it was because of drama actually that she had such a

great experience at wash. she was welcomed into that program and every single production starting in 9th grade. vapa was an incredible resource for her and something that really changed her life and made her high school years super positive. so i think there's a lot of really great stories to tell, and i would just like to say let's -- let's be more thoughtful and let's actually rely on data for making some of these decisions? and if it takes a little bit longer to gather that data to make better decisions, i think that's okay. so i would just ask for a little bit of -- just slow it down a little bit and let's talk through the issues and make a good decision as opposed to a quick decision. >> president cook: commissioner lam. >> commissioner lam: thank you. thank you for everyone coming out and sharing your testimony tonight. i just want to express the

frustration that has been felt by my colleagues, from community around what the data impact and vapa -- of course, first and foremost as a parent, i completely support arts education, my children's elementary school was a distinguished school for the arts. i think i also want to acknowledge the tremendous work that's gone into the arts education master plan over the last, i believe, two years. i know that it's been a really entrenched community process? at the same time, it's also been a real missed opportunity around the timing of it. from what i hear, it's only a few weeks from being released. at the same time, it's like

kind of had we been thinking around the peef budgeting process, with the school district's process, we just don't have all the information in front of us, and i think there is frustration around, you know, the time frame. why has it taken so long around the master plan roll out? so when that, again, i just want to extend an greesh because i know tremendous work has -- extend an appreciation because i know tremendous work has gone into the process and lifting up -- there are some serious concerns and issues around accountability around the vapa program and its ability to serve equitiable to all schools and all students. i also want to acknowledge that i do think as a new

commissioner more data to really understand the proposals before us. so my overall comments or position is that i have concerns with the proposed specifics around the administration. when i served four years on the peef c.a.c., that was a leading value, around the administrative costs and how that could be supported through general funds, and that we really needed to concentrate those peef dollars to helping students first. so with that, i would want to be in support of additional processes, and i think that's what i thought out yesterday when i joined the committee meeting with staff and superintendent to hear some possible solutions, and i want

to hear if there are any additional to the superintendent's -- that are around what options we do have in the interim before the april 1 deadline. >> other options? i'm not quite sure -- >> commissioner lam: well, i think i was commenting, one, that the process has gone by too quickly for me to make full decisions, and i think, again, yesterday the options, and would there be a chance to look at some of the cost allocations from the peef budget that would come from the general fund? not in its entirety, but if

there was some alternatives. superintendent superintende >> i don't know if you're asking for alternatives to the budgeting process, but you've heard -- you can schedule meetings to get more information or you can ask for the budget to be changed. that's one of the things that was underdiscussion right now is an amendment to do just that. that's one option, of course, if the board wanted to spend more time. but you -- of course, the biggest issue, though is even if it went to another committee, there isn't another board -- a board meeting between now and april 1, and this has to be voted on by the

full board. >> president cook: commissioner collins? >> commissioner collins: i appreciate what folks are saying around process and about specific items, because i do think -- and i also want to say i appreciate folks coming out and advocating for the arts because it is really important for us to make sure that those programs and the folks that are providing those programs directly to students are getting to students at the site level. and so that is part of my concern, when we're spending, it says $50,000 on a master plan refresh, and that's a consultant, and that's, i'm assuming, been over the last few years, and i haven't been able to see previous budgets. but you know over a few years, that's one teacher at a school. support for central office instructional quality infrastructure, that's a website. it's a website for $30,000. that's something that, like, the math team, they do their own website.

the humanities team do their own website. these are funds that could go to buying instruments for students. we've got 50 or 25,000 for state standards, like, those are things that we do as our district. the math team does them, the science team does them, and by putting them in this budget, we're basically taking away money from sites -- from programs that could benefit students, when it's in visual and performing arts or whether it's social workers or whether it's nurses, those are all vital resources that we need, and those are also people that are loving and caring people. and what we are hearing from also community members is this idea that -- and i want to clarify it. we have not been discussing taking staff out of site, and when people talk about some of the amazing programs or experiencing that they're having or that they had as students, those are

relationships between students and teachers at site. so we want to make sure that we're funding staff, and we're funding art materials and instruments, and we're not funding a website design that could be designed in-house by our current staff. so i would love the opportunity to pick through this budget, and i feel, also, like -- as commissioner lam mentioned, similarly pressured in this process to get a budget with very little information. and also, i also want to site that the peef c.a.c. has had a year to look at this, and they haven't complained -- everybody knows what social workers do, everybody knows what librarians do, but there's consistently a lot of questions around how money is spent, and it's not a little money. if it's $2.3 million that isn't directly going to sites, and of that 1.5 is administration, about another -- you know,

there's almost $1 million in other stuff. and i'm not clear what that's doing and how that's supporting, you know, kids and schools and teachers in those schools in delivering high quality programs for every kid, and especially our most marginalized students. >> president cook: okay. so i think everyone's points have been made and remade. the -- the -- we have a recommendation on the table will whether to approve the superintende superintendent's budget or whether to make a budget or change the expenditure. i would say before we -- we do have a proposal from commissioner sanchez. i would say with vapa, the process needs to be earlier. staff hears that message loud and clear.

and for my colleagues that are new, you have four years to work on this, making a decision like this in this way is really disruptive, and i don't think it -- i don't think the energy that we're supposed to be giving around policy for the entire district is served well, where you take up as much time as we're taking right now. it's not 2.3 million isn't a significant amount of money, but what i want to think is the superintendent is going to take heed of the comments that he's heard, so that this time last year, all these questions are answered about the particular line items that people have concerns about. i think it's good governance and policy to approve the superintendent's recommendation as it is now stated and to work with him and staff to make these reforms over the course of the next year.

so you know, my recommendation -- i agree with commissioner norton's suggestion that we -- and for any of the comments that you hear tonight, i ask that you refrain from responding too heavily so we can get through the rest of this discussion. so i'm going to recommend that we move the superintendent's recommendation forward. i have a second. so we're going to do a roll call vote on the superintendent's recommendation on -- [inaudible] >> president cook: i haven't heard anything from anybody else, so i'm putting forward the recommendation as it is now, without the amendment. and i got a second from commissioner norton. so roll call vote. >> clerk: thank you. [roll call]

>> clerk: that's five ayes. [applause] >> president cook: okay. we have the rest of the meeting to attend to. if you all would like to continue conversations, please take it to the lobby. okay. so number seven, advisory committee reports and appointments to advisory

committees by board members. we have a report from the parent advisory council.

how you doing, miss file? you can't hang? it's only 10:00 p.m. >> so good evening, president cook, commissioners, superintendent matthews. students are gone. my name is georgia williams brad.

i'm the coordinator for the parent advisory council and i'm filling in for one of the members who had to go home. >> president cook: we need your mic, miss powell. >> my name is my cole powell, and i'm a parent of a senior at marshall high school. the role of the high school is to represent parents' voices and perspectives, discussions, and decisions, so this report that we give is a update of the activities that we address in activity and our efforts to recruit new c.a.c. members for the upcoming school year. we had the opportunity to meet with the sfusd director and

executive director from the office of counciling and post seco secondary. a.p. classes and the career technical education pathways that are offered at schools across our district. we also discussed the bright spots and the challenging, including the potential loss in funding. dual enrollment. the district has formed a successful partnership with city college of san francisco to create a dual enrollment program. this program offers college courses to high school studented who are eligible for higher course program work. it allows high school students to earn school credits while duly earning credits for college. it is give students an insight

on their choices and help them in their life to a peiwei of success. over the past four years, the number of students participating in the dual enrollment program has more than -- to a -- paid way of success. over the past fewer years, the number of students participating in the dual enrollment program has more than doubled. the successful growth of the program between 2014 and 2018 is largely due to the support from grants. this funding has allowed students learn supports to pay for textbooks, provide reliable, direct transportation or students to get from their school to city college campuses and hire teachers on special assignment, counselors to increase the likelihood of

students' success in college. unfortunately, two of the grants will come to an end in june 2019 and will most likely trigger the loss of counselors supporting the program. to maintain current levels of support including books, transportation, and t.s.a. counselors, the program requires a minimum of $1.125 million. the a.p. classes offered are varied in different parts of the school. the majority of all a.p. classes are taken at four high schools: galileo, lincoln, powell, and washington. this rises serious concerns about every student having equitiable access and how it might affect enrollment.

the district offers a variety of career technical education academies. these c.t.e. pathways allow students to explore specific career options within our schools and gain real world experience in a particular area of study. c.t.e. pathways are available in almost all high schools, like the dual enrollment program. student enrollment in the c.t.a. pathways across schools closely here ors the student demographics of the contradict as -- of the district as a whole. parents across the websites can look at the a.p. classes across the district. by having dual enrollment, this will help with our graduation rates, which at thurgood marshall is among the lowest. supporting equitiable secondary options. one of the reasons c.a.c. members decided to meet with district staff to discuss the

distribution of college and career opportunities and sfusd was to begin a better understanding of how these choices affect enrollment and performance at the school level. similar considerations apply to families who are enrolling their students in high school. lobbies decisions for families are based on many factors like distance, school safety, and etc. course options or career pathways or lack there of also figure into the decision making process for both students and families. we want all sfusd schools to be desirable in demand and private equitiable opportunities and experiences for each and every sfusd student. the c.a.c. focused on this work to ensure that all students are

ready for their college and their career. also in addition to that, my son, nathan, is a dual enrollment student. he's 16 years old, and he will be graduating -- well, it's march 31, but the district changed it to june 2 or 3. so he'll be graduating. he'll have college credits. by the time he turns 18, he will be at the choice -- his school of choice, but he will have all his general requirements done, so his future is looking bright. so i as a parent really want to encourage dual enrollment, and i recommend every student at the age of 16 at least take one city college class so it can open up their minds so they can see that hey my future does look bright, and by attending city college, too, it helps them to -- it helps them to figure out hey, is this what i want to do? because college is not for everyone. so they might decide yes, this is for me.

i want to pursue higher education and get my masters or get my doctorate and go another path. but having them exposed to that i think is really positive. and as a community, i want to push for that especially at thurgood marshall and the bayview. with y we really, really need this program. >> so another area that c.a.c. members have been focusing on is to look at examining other areas around equity, in particular looking at equitiable fund raising at our schools? and with e've been focusing at other school districts and schools are looking at fund raising and creates some opportunities of creating a central fund. so today, we met with deputy superintendent gentle blythe and the new director of development out of the development office to discuss

these possibilities to get an idea. really important to this is to look at we want to reach out to other school communities and parent organizations to get an idea of what their questions might be, their ideas, concerns around this whole idea, but to look at how can we leverage funding across our schools where we're not able to currently generate family giving. and finally, we are recruiting new members for next -- for the c.a.c. next year, so if you know of parents or -- please spread the word. our next meeting, we are going to be welcoming commissioner lopez. we look forward to meeting with you tomorrow evening, and that meeting is here on the third floor at 555 franklin, from 6:00 to 8:00. >> i'm going to sleep now.

[laughter]. >> president cook: commissioner norton. >> commissioner norton: sorry. no, it's nice. it's nice. i wanted to thank you for the comments on dual enrollment. i completely agree, and actually, i have long thought that dual enrollment to city college would be a great -- that we should be expanding that instead of a.p. because i think there's so many issues around a.p. in our district and how funding works. not to go down a rabbit hole with that, but 100%, i think it's great. so i really appreciate the c.a.c. for looking into this and talking about it. let's figure out how to keep this program going because it's really -- and i'm so glad that your son has had such a positive experience. >> president cook: commissioner sanchez. >> vice president sanchez: thank you. thank you for the presentation. so i'm more interested -- i'm

very interested in what commissioner norton's talking about. we have passed a resolution expanding city college. which is great. but on the p.t.a. front, setting up a general fund, can you speak more in detail of what you're looking at? >> so we're just looking at -- we know that there's different schools have different capacities in terms of generating funds. arts is a perfect example. so we know that some schools get a base fund of vapa, but some schools can raise additional funds to supplement. we just want to look at ways how we can create a central pot that has an effective voluntary mechanism for people to donate that will benefit all schools, so how can we bring across the district those types of things,

and we want to hear from the parents and school groups in the communities about how to move forward with this idea. >> vice president sanchez: thank you. i know that santa monica, years ago, they were going to have a large percentage that went to a central pot, and it went to schools that didn't have active p.t.a.s. you might want to look at what they've done. they spent a lot of years hammering it out. a lot of people left the district because they depth want to share. it's something we should be looking at. >> i think that's the emphasis on the voluntary piece. i think there's emphasis on p.t.a., not wanting to force anybody, but we want to hear from the ground up, what are some ideas people have about how to move forward with that? and i think that's why we were looking at santa monica, san jose. over in marin, they have a

coalition of foundations that have created a central pot? know, there's several different districts but it's all put into one? it's called school rules? so we're exploring that and just to move the idea forward and trying to collaborate with spark about what was the capacity. >> vice president sanchez: can you remind me who the new director is for development. >> cole haggerty. >> vice president sanchez: thank you for the work. >> president cook: commissioner lam? >> commissioner lam: i just want to echo the statement around equity for high school students. i know my daughter in language, there will be time for her to take that at city college, and when she goes through sequencing, she will have that space in her sophomore year in high school? and i think that overall, just

being able to expose our young people around the opportunity of their post secondary experience and really from an early age, in the early years of high school to be able to offer that out to our students and saying that post secondary college is -- can be a reality for you and to be in the experience of taking city college classes i think means a real great deal to their confidence level, to their ability to think just what's possible and the opportunities before them. and one question i do have, then, around process, it sounds like the grants to support the dual enrollment is going to be sunsetting, so i'll be curious to see what those plans are and what are recommendations from the superintendent and the staff around budgeting to support that program to continue if not expand. >> president cook: was that a

direct question or for later? >> commissioner lam: it can be a direct question around -- or just as a comment if staff -- superintende >> we'll get that information to you, but we'll get it to the entire board. >> president cook: okay. he's good. i thought i was the best at thurgood, and i am oh, so wrong. we -- commissioner -- vice president sanchez and i passed a policy for dual enrollment so students could be in ninth grade, and they didn't have to be in the school. we had some back and forth about how that should work, but it would be great to get an update from staff in one of the upcoming curriculum meetings to see how that process is going, and hopefully, we can get that

report to the parent c.a.c. so you can get an overview of what that policy is and how it's working, and now you can go home. oh, sorry, unless there were other questions. okay. okay. are there any appointments to the advisory committees by the board? commissioner lopez? >> commissioner lopez: i'd like to appoint diana payne to the pcac? >> president cook: section c -- on the appointment? okay. >> commissioner lopez: well, i just wanted to remind folks that we're going to have a new charter and we're going to appoint folks to the charter oversight commission. as we can appoint folks, we can have folks supporting mike davis who reviews some of the

charters coming up. thanks. >> president cook: section c, consent calendar. can i have a motion and second on the consent calendar? >> moved. >> second. >> president cook: we do have public comment on the consent calendar, so when you hear your name called, you can please make it right to the podium. you'll have two minutes. nick chandler, joanna lopez, david sewell, and saul hidalgo. >> my name's nick chandler, and i'm the counselor for horace mann. this is the first time i can honestly say that i've been able to partner with our organizations to address the housing needs that our students