>> chair fewer: the meeting will come to order. this is the march 20, 2019 meeting of the full budget and finance committee. i am sandra fewer, chairman of the committee. i am joined by supervisors catherine stefani and raphael mandelman, he is on his way.

a our clerk is miss wong. i would like to thank matthew ignau and michael balthazar and sfg sfgovtv for televising this meeting. madam clerk, do you have any announcements? >> clerk: please silence all cell phones and electronic devices. copies speaker cards and documents to be submitted -- includinged apart of the file -- included as part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. >> chair fewer: thank you.

madam clerk, please call the first item. [agenda item read]. >> chair fewer: this budget is up on the website for members of the public to review if you'd like. at the first meeting in april, this committee will be presented with a five-year financial plan as well as a ten-year capital plan. each of the remaining meetings in april will be focused on hearings on the board's budget priorities where we will hear departmental presentations on the current funding levels, partners, and programs. the intention of each of these hearings is to deepen our understanding of the current status and funding gaps for each priority articulated by the board. on may 8, there will be a fourth budget hearing on priorities identified by two or more members of the board through the but jelt and

legislative analyst's service process. my office will be scheduling hearings for key departments in june. colleagues, please let me know if there are any particular departments you'd like to hear from in may. more details will be coming in terms of the june schedule, and my office will be updating the calendar periodically with more details. the calendar is available at sfbos.org. the link is budget information. colleagues, any discussion? if not, i'd like to turn this over to dan gonchar from the b.l.a. >> hi. my name is don gonchar, and i

will be presenting a brief overview on the budget's priorities. a total of 13 priority issues were identified by supervisors through an informal survey, and we will be researching and reporting on five of the areas, including public safety, housing, homelessness, mental health and substance abuse, and on this slide, you'll see that i believe that the schedule is for public safety to be heard on the 10th, housing and homelessness to be heard on the 17th, and mental health and substance abuse to be heard on the 24. for public safety, supervisors have identified car break-ins, additional police officer positions, restraining orders,

security for muni operators, prevention and response measures, multilingual community ambassadors and officers as well as block safety groups. for homelessness, the issues -- the subissues that have been identified by supervisors include capacity for bed and housing units, including supportsive housing, including accelerating shelter beds that have already been made. for shelters, the subareas, subdivision, antidisplacement measures, specialized housing for seniors, people with disabilities and veterans and workforce housing. and finally for mental health and substance abuse, supervisors have identified the following subissues that they'd like the budget and legislative analysts to look at treatment beds, 5150 holds, and an

increase in psychiatrists and intensive case managers. in addition to the issues that we will be presenting on in april, three issues were mentioned by two or more supervisors, including clean and green streets, minute make up organization funding to assist nonprofits and small business support. it is my understanding that a hearing is scheduled for may 8 to discuss these other policy priorities and potentially additional. so i also wanted to give a little more detail on what you'll be seeing on reports from our office. we'll be researching data in the area, including the status of available programs, historical spending of these programs, performance measures to measure how successful we've

been in addressing them, and identification of funding impact opportunities, and i want to go into little more detail on each of these. we're going to be providing background on appropriate programs across the city, including the department that oversee the programs, as well as the program's history, goals, and service populations. for example, for homelessness, last year, we provided a background on the department of homelessness and supportive housings two major pilot programs, the on-line pilot and navigation system and coordinated entry. we also provided information on the homeless veterans prams, emergency services and exit from homelessness programs. we'll also provide an overview of relative spending with an emphasis on overview and spending and a breakdown

whenever possible. regarding performance measures, we will collect and summarize relevant official performance measures as reported by the controller's city performance unit, which is housed in the city service auditor's division. nod to that, we'll be speaking with departments about other potential performance measures that they collect but that are not reported by the controller's office or that may not readily available. and now i'll quickly go over the performance measures that we have preliminarily identified for each of the policy areas. the question came up last week about these, so for public safety, we've preliminarily identified crime rates including property versus violent crime rates, property crime by type, as well as investigation clearance rates, response times to calls for service and temporary

restraining order service completion rates. for housing, we've preliminarily identified the bay area housing regional needs assessment. in addition to that we'll be looking at the goaled outlined in the mayor's office of housing and community development housing plan and strategic plan, such as number of units created by type. none of units preserved or maintained, increased affordability of rental housing, increased opportunity for sustainable home ownership, increased accessibility of rental and home ownership and increased rate of evictions. for home ownership we've identified the number of families receiving rental subsidy, the number of individuals leaving

homelessness due to placement and permanent supportive housing. the number of individuals reunited with friends and family through home ward bound. the percent of case managed families in shelters that are placed in permanent or transitional housing, enter a treatment program or are reyouity intoed with family. the number of individuals some treatment or placement after one year, and the available of year-round single adult shelter beds and those used. for the last priority, mental health and substance abuse services. we've identified several targets and we'll be looking at them compared to what the actual delivery has been, including the number of unique mental health clients in treatment, the percentage of new mental health clients that are homeless, total units of mental health services provided, mental health

services patients under 19, the number of unique substance abuse clients in treatment, the percentage of homelessness clients among substance abuse treatment admissions, and the total units of substance abuse treatment services provided, and we'll also be looking at program measures, measures that are specific to programs, including crisis residential services, long-term care residential services and out patient services, and under substance abuse measures, we'll be looking at narcotic replacement treatment, residential services and outpatient services. and finally, in our reports, you'll be seeing identification of potential funding impact opportunities, and the way that we're going to be going about this is we're going to be looking at high impact budget impact opportunities by soliciting ideas from department staff, reviewing recent audit recommendations that address these issues, and

reviewing last year's budget priority reports for previously recommends enhancements that have not been under taken, and that concludes my presentation. i'm happy to take any questions or comments. >> chair fewer: yes, supervisor stefani. >> supervisor stefani: thank you, chair fewer. on the mental health and substance abuse slide, you said the following subissues have been identified by supervisors: outreach services, increased capacity of residential treatment beds for individuals under 5150 holds or who present a danger to themselves or others. and then, of course increase in psychiatrists and intensive case managers. i would like to add something else, which is not those -- not more beds for 5150 holds, but beds like hummingbird place. how many more do we need? we had a hearing in public safety last week, focusing on what happened when people are no longer a danger to themselves or others under a 5150 hold, and a lot of times

they're being released back onto the streets. we had a discussion of how many more beds we might get to help that population in a way that gets them the help that they need or gets them to the next level of services. so if we could focus on that, step-down beds like hummingbird place. and then, the other slide i was looking at, b.l.a. analysis, b.l.a. will conduct analysis on each priority, including status of established programs. and i'm wondering if you're going to look at an analysis with other counties. sometimes -- i don't know if you've done that before or if you do that when we ask you specifically on certain subject matter. i think san francisco provides more units of supportive housing than any other city, really, i think. but maybe we can talk about that. i don't know if that would be

helpful. i don't know -- i'd like to hear if my colleagues think that's helpful. and then, i had one more question. on the performance measures, on mental health substance abuse services, is last line, this total use of substance abuse treatment services provided, and i'm just wondering how many beds do we have for detox centers, and then, residential treatment and also s.l.e.s, sober living environments. i'm not sure -- there's a plethora of substance abuse treatment services here, and it would be really nice to know what we have in terms of all of that that targets substance abuse. >> yes. so that and the other bullet points on this slide are roll ups of -- i believe they're roll ups of more detailed targets, and i don't have that in front of me right now, but i

could provide that to you after the hearing. >> supervisor stefani: okay. thanks. that's all i have right now. thank you, chair fewer. >> chair fewer: thank you. supervisor walton? >> supervisor walton: thank you very much, and thank you for compiling all the analysis from the board of supervisors. i do have just a question on the housing slide. as we talked about the subissues that have been identified, and i know that some of these do address affordable housing, but there's not a bullet point or subissue that has been identified as strictly affordable housing. is there a reason for that or -- >> yeah, because i probably should have been a little bit more descriptive in describing this priority area, but when we say housing, i think what we're really talking about is affordable housing. so we can refer to it as that going forward, but i think that all these fall under that

umbrella. >> i think it's just very important to highlight so that we don't -- so that everyone knows and sees. >> thank you. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. supervisor mandelman. >> supervisor mandelman: yeah. i -- actually, i was going to make another point but i wanted to reiterate and echo what supervisor walton says housing could be how could we incentivize more treatment and production. i think that we really want to hone in on opportunities for subsidized housing, for stuff that is not necessarily the market and the ways in which the public sector can assist, so i think it is important to talk about affordable housing. on sort of -- i guess on both public safety and mental health

and substance abuse, i think something i'm interested in, but i'm not sure it's a measure that you're going to be looking at is cycling. so folks who are cycling in and out of jail, who are getting 5150's and getting 5150'ed over time, so i would be looking at success measures and looking going forward at interventions that we could use that -- part of public safety is reducing the lyinglihood that someone else who has experience with the criminal justice system has that experience again, and we know that a lot of people are having experiences like that over and over again, and so what are the budgetary interventions we can do that. related to that, it's not explicitly called that, but it's something we have to figure out what to do in lieu of the jail. and i think having those conversations are related. and then, i do want to also

echo supervisor stefani's notion that we might -- that it could be useful to look at how other -- san francisco leads in a whole lot of areas, but i'm not sure that we've cornered the market on good ideas, so maybe checking out how other counties may be dealing with things differently would be useful. and on the 5150's for me, very much, i'm looking at ways to measure our success in reducing the number of times the same person gets 5150'ed. >> chair fewer: thank you. supervisor mar? >> supervisor mar: thank you, chair fewer. yeah. i just had a few points and -- or questions about housing -- or the affordable housing priority area, as well. and more specifically around whether we can include the distribution of affordable

housing projects and -- and -- and dollars among the different districts in san francisco as another subissue. and -- yeah, and performance evaluation. and i'm just raising this because the board recently had received reports from the -- first from the planning department around the housing balance that -- the housing balance report. then, also, more recently from the mayor's office of housing, the housing preference programs. i think within the discussion of those reports among the board, i think it was really highlighted how certain districts, particularly on the west side, have not received the same level of investment in affordable housing programs as other districts, and -- and when it comes to housing preferences and -- and the -- we've created a preference for -- a neighborhood preference for access to affordable housing, that really means that residents in my

district and district four and other -- and i think more specifically district one and district seven did not have access to the housing preference because there were no preferable affordable housing projects in our district. so i guess the question is can you also include -- >> yeah, we can include those. >> supervisor mar: okay. thank you. >> chair fewer: thank you. i was also going to say about geographic cal equity in district funds, but housing homeless funds. and then, i would like to go to public safety and follow up on our discussion that we had some depth last year about the civilianization of police positions. so as we're talking about additional police officers' positions, i'd like a report back on how many of those positions that had been civilianized. we had a great discussion about that last time.

and then under public safety, recently, we know that we had eight fatalities already on our streets, that i would like to add to public safety and vision zero and our sfpd traffic unit. i think that it's timely now. we are not going to meet our vision zero goals unless we see what kind of investments are going to be made. i'm assuming that public safety will not just be sfpd but it will also include our district attorney's office. is that correct? >> i -- i don't believe that we are reporting on anything at the moment on the district attorney. >> chair fewer: i just think it's related, when we talk about how many arrests are made but we don't talk about how many convictions are secured. i think public safety has been on the minds of many of our residents has also been on the minds, narcotic sales and what

measures and resources have been put to that. i think last time in budget, there were six people in the narcotics unit, so an update on that. another thing, when supervisor mandelman talked about those recycling in and out, could i have that data by race. thank you very much. >> we will try to follow up on that. >> chair fewer: okay. that would be great. it will give us an idea i think who are these people cycling in and out. yeah, then, i think that's it. i would say -- you know, we don't want to load up your to do list, and i know that everyone probably has -- after we look at this and maybe talk to our colleagues or our staff that we may have more suggestions on maybe help us to dive a little deeper with information. is there a deadline that we should get this information to you by? >> ideally, it would be --

>> chair fewer: yesterday? that was a joke. >> maybe a couple weeks before the hearing. >> chair fewer: okay. that's great. >> so with public safety, that's coming up pretty soon. >> chair fewer: so we should get that in by the end of next week maybe. >> yeah, without seeing a calendar in front of me, yeah, i think so. >> chair fewer: okay. that's great. anything else? oh, yes, supervisor stefani? >> supervisor stefani: thanks, chair fewer, and i want to echo chair fewer's comments on the civilianization. i'm interested, as well, to continue that conversation. i'm interested if you could look at the number of retirements in the police department, as well. and also, the academy classes that we funded, whether or not they're full and how many people have graduated and are graduating just so we get a sense of our investment and if we're able to fill those

academy classes, and just retirement, how many people are leaving the police force, as well. thanks. >> supervisor fewer: and i'd like to piggyback also on what supervisor stefani just said, i see the multilingual community ambassadors and community officers. i'd like to know the rath and ethnic background of those officers and their language capablities. because i think that that has been brought before the board before that we should be prioritizing the skills of these officers. okay. supervisor mar? nothing? nothing to add onto the list? okay. thank you very much. okay. so i would like to continue this item -- oh, public comment. are there any members of the public that would like to comment on this issue? seeing none, public comment is

now closed. golf golf. >> chair fewer: i'd like to make a motion to continue this to the call of the chair. could i have a second, please? seconded by supervisor mandelman, and we can take that without objection, and madam clerk, is there any other business before us today? >> clerk: no other business. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. meeting's adjourned.

>> it's great to see everyone kind of get together and prove, that you know, building our culture is something that can be reckoned with. >> i am desi, chair of economic development for soma filipinos. so that --

[ inaudible ] know that soma filipino exists, and it's also our economic platform, so we can start to build filipino businesses so we can start to build the cultural district. >> i studied the bok chase choy her achbl heritage, and i discovered this awesome bok choy. working at i-market is amazing. you've got all these amazing people coming out here to share one culture. >> when i heard that there was a market with, like, a lot of filipino food, it was like oh, wow, that's the closest thing i've got to home, so, like, i'm

going to try everything. >> fried rice, and wings, and three different cliefz sliders. i haven't tried the adobe yet, but just smelling it yet brings back home and a ton of memories. >> the binca is made out of different ingredients, including cheese. but here, we put a twist on it. why not have nutella, rocky road, we have blue berry. we're not just limiting it to just the classic with salted egg and cheese.

>> we try to cook food that you don't normally find from filipino food vendors, like the lichon, for example. it's something that it took years to come up with, to perfect, to get the skin just right, the flavor, and it's one of our most popular dishes, and people love it. this, it's kind of me trying to chase a dream that i had for a long time. when i got tired of the corporate world, i decided that i wanted to give it a try and see if people would actually like our food. i think it's a wonderful opportunity for the filipino culture to shine. everybody keeps saying filipino food is the next big thing. i think it's already big, and to have all of us here together, it's just -- it just blows my mind sometimes that there's so many of us bringing -- bringing filipino food to the city finally.

>> i'm alex, the owner of the lumpia company. the food that i create is basically the filipino-american experience. i wasn't a chef to start with, but i literally love lumpia, but my food is my favorite foods i like to eat, put into my favorite filipino foods, put together. it's not based off of recipes i learned from my mom. maybe i learned the rolling technique from my mom, but the different things that i put in are just the different things that i like, and i like to think that i have good taste. well, the very first lumpia that i came out with that really build the lumpia -- it wasn't the poerk and shrimp shanghai, but my favorite thing after partying is that bakon

cheese burger lumpia. there was a time in our generation where we didn't have our own place, our own feed to eat. before, i used to promote filipino gatherings to share the love. now, i'm taking the most exciting filipino appetizer and sharing it with other filipinos. >> it can happen in the san francisco mint, it can happen in a park, it can happen in a street park, it can happen in a tech campus. it's basically where we bring the hardware, the culture, the

operating system. >> so right now, i'm eating something that brings me back to every filipino party from my childhood. it's really cool to be part of the community and reconnect with the neighborhood. >> one of our largest challenges in creating this cultural district when we compare ourselves to chinatown, japantown or little saigon, there's little communities there that act as place makers. when you enter into little philippines, you're like where are the businesses, and that's one of the challenges we're trying to solve.

>> undercover love wouldn't be possible without the help of the mayor and all of our community partnerships out there. it costs approximately $60,000 for every event. undiscovered is a great tool for the cultural district to bring awareness by bringing the best parts of our culture which

is food, music, the arts and being ativism all under one roof, and by seeing it all in this way, what it allows san franciscans to see is the dynamics of the filipino-american culture. i think in san francisco, we've kind of lost track of one of our values that makes san francisco unique with just empathy, love, of being acceptable of different people, the out liers, the crazy ones. we've become so focused onic maing money that we forgot about those that make our city and community unique. when people come to discover, i want them to rediscover the magic of what diversity and empathy can create. when you're positive and committed to using that energy,

>> good morning, the meeting will come to order. welcome to the march 18, 2019, rules committee. seated to my right is shamann walton, and seated to my left is rules committee supervisor gordon mar. and we're joined by president norman yee. and i would like to thank those from s.f. gov. tv for staffing this meeting. >> please silence you cell phones and all electronic

equipment. documents should be included as part of the record and submitted to the clerk. >> chairwoman: thank you so much. can you please read item number one. >> would you like me to call one and two together? >> chairwoman: sure. >> item one is a motion amending the rules of order for striking rule 3.29 to remove the budget and finance committee on federal policy changes. and item two is the board of supervisors clarifying amendments to rule 3.26 rules committee and rule 3.30, select committees, and by adding rule 3.31 to establish a joint city school district and city college select committee. >> chairwoman: thank you. president yee, did you want to discuss or present these items? >> sure. thank you. i will just make it real

brief. as the title implies, it is really to clean up some of the language that we have in regards to what goes to what committee. and then mainly what i wanted to do is talk about the joint city school district and city college select committee. we've had select committees before with the school district. and probably had it for many years. and eventually for the last few years we discontinued it because there was not an interest at the time. and there has been a lot more interest since i've become the president, expressed by not only my own colleagues, but also by the school district and city college. so what's a little bit new is this joint committee actually includes three

governance. the city and the school district and the city college. so i've already spoken to the school district and city college. college, their commissioning trustees, and they all agreed they wanted to do this. the idea is we'll have regular meetings scheduled, and that there be to representatives from each of the entities to make up six members. and in addition to that, we have built in an alternative -- alternate -- for each of the entities because in the past there has been issues of getting a quorum if one person doesn't show up. and the purpose of this is to make sure that we have a way to communicate with the entities because, as you know, there is a lot of, i guess, interaction

anyways that happens informally. and more recently, there has been exchange of funding for the city's funding certain things. so we want to make sure that there is some vehicle where we could formalize this. and the other piece is just to eliminate basically the federal -- the budget and finance select committee on federal policy changes that was created last year, i believe. and with the threat of the federal governments towards local government sort of disappearing. we felt like there was no need for this. okay. >> chairwoman: supervisor walton? >> yes, thank you, chair ronen. i just want to say i was disheartened by the dissolution of the joint committee when i was on the board of education, so

i'm excited about reestablishing the joint committee there. there are so many things between the city, the school district, and city college that overlap, particularly in a time when affordability is major, and we're trying to figure out ways, of course, to create more affordable housing, as well as our fights with homelessness and transportation. so so many overlaps, so i want to thank president yee for bringing this back because we need to be working closely with city college and with the school district. so thank you so much. >> chairwoman: thank yo you. viewpoinsupervisor mar? >> yes. i want to also thank president yee for the proposal to create the joint board of supervisors school district and city college collec select committee. it is something members of the board are enthusiastic about. now is a great time to do

that this year. i wanted to highlight one of the priorities i've been working on in my district very much connects to this. i've been working with city college administration and also the school district to expand city college dual enrollment classes in the sunset district for high school students. so we're working on a plan to really expand that this summer, and continue to expand this fall into next spring. that is just an example of the kind of exciting, important work that can happen through this -- within the framework of this joint select committee. so thank you so much. >> i just wanted to add my thanks, president yee, for being so responsive to us on the board. you know, all three of us, supervisor mar and walton and i are all parents of students in the school district. so shi this is extra relevant

and present for us every day. but there just seems to be so many issues -- and also free city college -- where there real is the need for this joint cross-dialogue on the board. thank you so much. we're all very excited about this and really appreciate you. now i will open up this item for public comment. if there is any member of the public who would like to speak on this item, now is your chance. oh, are you going -- okay. seeing none, public comment is closed. [gavel] >> chairwoman: can i have a motion? >> i move that we move this forward to the full board with recommendation. >> chairwoman: without reobjection, items one and two move forward with recommendation to the full board. can you please read item number three.

>> item number three is an ordinance, many of the administrative codes required department heads and members of city boards commission to complete complicit training, and to apply newly appointed department heads to have training within 60 days of assuming office, and to require the department of human resources to provide the training. >> chairwoman: thank you. we have a representative from supervisor stefani's office. >> thank you for welcoming me back. i'm here to present just a minutes to the initial legislation on our conversation to make it more robust, particularly for department heads. on page two, starting on line 15, this is the main amendment that our offices worked with the city attorney and d.h. r. on. it requires department heads to have an in-person training, which will be fulfilled with an all-day training within the first 60 days of them entering

their office. and commissioners remain taking an online training. and just to match this so that h.r. can implement it, there are some state adjustments. throughout you'll see that the requirement of june 30th has been changed to december 31st, 2019. i've also got susan guard her with d.h.r., if there are any questions. >> chairwoman: great. any questions? no. thank you so much for being responsive to us. this looks great. i would love to be added as a co-sponsor, please. >> thank you very much, supervisor stefani. i appreciate your support and co-sponsorship. >> chairwoman: any member of the public like to speak on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. [gavel] >> chairwoman: is there a motion? >> i move that we move this forward with a positive recommendation. >> chairwoman: without

objection -- >> you need to adopt the amendment. >> i move that we adopt the amendment to the proposed legislation. >> chairwoman: without objection, that item is amended. >> and now move that we move with a positive recommendation, with the amendment, to the full board. >> chairwoman: without objection, that motion passes. [gavel] >> chairwoman: thank you. thank you. can you please read item number four. >> it is a hearing to consider one member term ending 2020 to the advisory committee. one seat, one applicant. >> chairwoman: thank you. is melissa mendoza here? >> i believe we did receive notice that she was out of town. however, this is a nomination from a member of the board of supervisors. >> chairwoman: great. so we will now open up this item -- i'm sorry, supervisor walton? or was that left over. sorry. we will now open up this item for public comment. >> it is my fault.

i just wanted to say that i'm very excited about her participation. everything she does, that she is part of, she is a part of a va very innovative group and active group. i definitely think you should reconfirm her. >> chairwoman: any member of the public like to speak? seeing none, the public comment is closed. would anybody like to make a motion. >> sure. i move that we recommend melissa mendoza to seat five of the advisory committee, on to the full board. >> chairwoman: without objection, that motion passes. thank you, please read item number five. >> number five is a hearing to appoint one member ending february 1st, 2021, to the park space, open space advisory committee, one seat, one applicant. >> chairwoman: thank you. is rosa chen here? good morning, ms. chen.

>> good morning, supervisor. my name is rosa chen. i was born and raised in chinatown in district 3. i've used the parks in district 3, and i'm part of the community for better park and rec in chinatown. while i was serving in the youth commission is few years back, i also worked on park issues in the district as wellmen well. so i think i have a lot of experience working with youth. i used to be an organizer for youth. and i worked on park issues, open space issues, really making sure it is being advocated for the community. >> chairwoman: thank you so much. any questions? no. thank you so much. thank you for being willing to serve in this capacity. it is important. so thanks so much. is there any other member of the public who would like to speak on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> i move the motion

forward. >> chairwoman: without objection, that motion passes. item six? >> item six is approving/rejecting the mayor's appointment of scott to the retirement board for a year term ending february 20th, 2023. >> chairwoman: would you like to present the board on your qualifications and interests in this position? >> thank you. thank you for inviting me over for deliberations. i actually tried to see -- i spoke to you last week. i dropped by your office -- both of your offices, supervisors, on friday to see if you had any questions. i'll go with what -- how you want to ask questions. maybe i'll tell you two minutes on the back of my baseball card, specifically, personally i have six kids, 12 grandkids, citizens of san francisco, all committed to making san francisco a better city. so in my business, i've

had a number of activities that give me a unique perspective on the issues at hand that the retirement board is addressing. specifically the esg platform and the like. my personal investing is also in that light. i will tell you on a personal basis, my money managers and like handle e.s.g. regularly, and it goes into the decision-making of my personal life. i do not have any fossel companies in my investment portfolio, nor do i plan to. we are working on several non-profits, actually, that i am involved with that are eliminating that

fossel. on that regard, i think should probably go to the -- as the city -- what i've done in the city. and for about 18, 19 years i've been a commissioner. i was a commissioner on the health service system for about 15 years. and in all of my activities with the city, it is to -- it is with distinct purpose of putting san francisco as a thought waiter, but noanl only a thought waiter, but a thought enactor. if we're going to talk the talk, we need to walk the walk. when i was first president, we were broke. and in four years, we had that back on to track. and then thereafter, san

francisco became a real thought waiter and thought enactor, and affordable care came into place, we were cutting-edge, and we had affordable care, and we had something that was solid in the middle for 125,000 employees, retirees, dependents of the city of san francisco. a fact that i'm really pleased we accomplished. i resigned from the public health service, it is well-known, because i saw an advantage and for the good of the finances that we introduced an actuary that took an r.f.p. it was associated with one of the companies i'm employed by. i was told by the city attorney it is not a conflict, but when i put my head on the pillow at night and i think it is a conflict -- so i went to the mayor and i resigned.

i thought i had a three-month vacation, but i got a call and went on civil service. we have a dedicated group of civil servants. a thought waiter, a thought enactor, and i thought with the identification issues, that's where we're going once again. i was honored to get a call from the mayor, as her appointment on the retirement board. and the same fe fiduciary responsibility. there are 125,000 employee retirees and dependents. recognizing that responsibility on basis of the issues at hand that have been a little delayed incoming to a resolution or a commitment to do something. defosselization is one

example, and e.s.g. going forward, i'm glad to see it is a position where it is, pront and center, and i look forward to pushing those forward on a very thoughtful basis. again, thought leadership and enactor. climate change is a big issue. and i'm also council general to the republic of rwanda, and i have been for many years. i started the san francisco sisters city committee for mayor newso newsom. no more other places than in banghor, with water, and with climate change, that you can see the actual results of this. i bring these up because it a filter. it is something i translate through. it is a filter that i feel very comfortable with, that meshes with what the retirement board needs to do.

at that, i'd be glad to answer any questions. >> chairwoman: one question: you had mentioned that you stepped off the health services board because, you know, whether or not it was a legal conflict, you saw a perceived conflict between your company and huet and some work that the health services system was doing. is there any conflict that you can imagine between the retirement board and huet, or that you can see up coming. and do hue huet have any business with the city that could present a similar situation? >> no. i've done my due diligence on this when the mayor asked me. the last thing i need is to be accused of a conflict of interest. especially after doing so much over the years.

no, the direct answer. my business -- the business i'm in now and all of the associated businesses i'm involved with have nothing to do with the retirement board, period. we have a retirement division and whatever that does some cultureing and consuln aon, which is my primary business, but i've checked with our compliance people. and i don't see any other -- and i don't see any issue with what i've said going through with all of my money managers and people that handle my finances. >> chairwoman: okay. thank you. as you know, and you mentioned this a little bit, the board of supervisors voted unanimously to urge the retirement board to divest from fossel fuels in 2013, and then again in 2018. over the last five years the energy sector has been by far the worst

performing sector of the market. will you commit to making a motion to divest san francisco retirement system from fossel fuels? >> answer: yes. my thought is -- i happen to believe in this deeply, and i was really heartened to see that the norwegian sovereign fund, the number one product of norway, oil. the norwegian sovereign fund just last week ordered a divestiture of fossel fuels. it is interesting. >> chairwoman: thank you. we are joined by supervisor safai. did you have some questions? >> yes. i just wanted to make a statement and ask a question or two. thank you, madam chair. i am the representative of the board on the retirement board for our body. i had the pleasure of

sitting down with mr. helfun and talking to him -- >> in your district. >> in my district, right. i wanted to say a few things for the record that we talked about, and i think it is important that it be noted that our retirement fund has grown over the last number of years. many city employees are here, including ourselves. our number one responsibility is to grow that fund so we are fully funded for those that retire. we have that feduciary responsibility. we are 90% funded for all of our retir retirees. so we're doing exceedingly well. one of the things that has frustrated me, and i see some of the advocates here for fossel fuel, we had the conversations, passed the resolutions, and then the response has been, if we don't invest, other

funds will. i like the example of the norwegian fund. but what are some of the concrete steps that we can take when staff say, if we don't, others will invest in that fund? >> i guess the thing that allowed me to say yes, that i'd consider this, is the progress that we've made in e.s.g., because out of that platform, basically, you have an investment strategy -- a roadmap, i should say, to to -- to the deep fosselization issue. it has been delayed. it has been an issue. it has come this full circle to appoint, where now there is a common -- seemingly common direction and push to accomplish