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non-transportation is give my opinion. certainly the granite curbs. i think of the brick as sort of a place-making feature that creates the identity of market street. i understand it does not go back to the founding of the city but preservation is when something is reserve preserved, it's a snf whatever it is at the time it was constructed.
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we trying to convey what we think is important for planning commissioners to understand what to do with. only thing that will come back before us is the late standards. the light standard that come before us -- the paving, the a.r.c. wanted to make sure that whatever was put in place of the brick if the brick was not a viable solution, was something as good as what we have as opposed to just putting in some plain gray concrete. >> i agree. it would be nice if it was recollected and sections of brick or something that recalled that landscape. >> it's interesting to me, we
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have the raised cones at every intersection. those are four harsher on a person in a wheelchair than brick paving. it seems to me that if someone -- if we are required to put that in for a.d.a. requirements, it seems there should be a way to design in some way, some elements of brick in some consistent design pattern that wouldn't be so harsh relative to a person who might be affected by it. i really want to emphasize that seems very possible. >> we can put in similar language what the a.r.c. says. we like to make sure what's replaced it's compatible to the
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entire market street. two other things. i would like to add to our memo, the comment on this new cafe and the impact legacy business that is priority for us as commission. we want to make sure planning commission is paying attention to the unintended consequence. >> rose is the alley street that will get blocked. >> then, last, which probably doesn't apply here, after our commission hearing, we concluded that we could actually give an opinion on what we think an appropriate direction for the project. we know that none of the preservation alternatives either meet the standards nor the project. the preservation alternative is basically no project
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alternative. i don't know if we need to see any more of that. i haven't heard that we have a proposed direction beyond the actual proposed project. >> commissioner johns. >> commissioner johns: i want to confirm that we are going to send a memo to the planning commission. rather than having them bear it out going to s.f.gov.org. >> there was a discussion whether or noted you want us to read that memo into the record or part of staff presentation or president hyland or other member like to present those thoughts. >> it's coming before the commission tomorrow? is that correct?
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we have little time to get the memo. >> it's going before the planning commission on april 4th. we have a transcript taken today. our proposal was to put together of your comments and give it to the planning commission prior to the hearing. >> as long as it's not an item not buried in the binder. >> the e.i.r. has been given to them. this would be given to them as a stand-alone item. >> president hyland: we can move ton to items 8a, b and c. for 5 third street. this is a planning code amendment and major permit to
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alter. >> good afternoon commissionerrings rebecca planning staff. located at the southeast corner of market street and third street. the property is located within the article 11 new montgomery conservation district. 1729 third street was constructed in 1910. the proposed project was convert the -- hearst building to mixed use hotel.
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the proposed new rooftop elements will be visible from a public right-of-way. the project includes work at the storefront both buildings, facade window restoration. it's located a the 13th rooftop of 5 third street. it the penthouse is simple in details which includes multilight windows, and small wooded birdhouse. the interior of the penthouse appears to have heavily altered. staff has determined while the penthouse is defining to the building it is not visible federal any public right-of-way and never accessible to the public. it will remain unchanged by the
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removal of the penthouse structure. all other character defining features and available to the public will be restored and remain part of the proposed project. the proposed vertical additions will be left prominent and existing rooftop additions. to assess the visibility of the roof deck, staff conduct site visit to review places stories. based on modifications, it was determined that the proposed deck will be individuals believe frovisible from thestreet. the proposed work at the property store front will remove awnings that are incompatible with the property.
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the proposed new aluminum storefront while contemporary in design will be compatible with the building. alterations at the lobby are limited you new door openings at two recesses adjacent to the historic elevators. this work will not alter historic finishes in the lobby. the project will require conditional use authorization from the planning commission to allow the proposed hotel use under section 303 the planning
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code. per planning code section 309, downtown project authorization will be required from the planning commission for substantial alterations to the building. the project also seeks federal rehabilitation tax credit and o.h.p. provided a letter with this approach and determined that the project is in conformance with the se secretaf interior. after publication of the packets for the hearing, two members of the public contacted planning staff to request additional information. one letter of support project one letter recommending project to receive. these relevant attachments were forwarded to the commissioners for review. this concludes my presentation
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unless there's questions. >> good afternoon president hyland and commissioners. i'm current planning department staff. the item before you is an ordinance amend planning code and that are not compliance with regarding to height. it would require major alteration permit. as noted in the case report, this ordinance is being proposed to allow the hearst building to fill an existing area and hotel is designated as significant under article 11. tariffs they are looking to infill is located on the rooftop. ordinance restricts amendment to the block that includes hotel
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block dilemm 3707. it includes the sun set date of january 31, 2029. the department recommends the commission recommend approval as ordinance facilitate the adaptive reuse of the historic building and in a manner far is keeping with existing city policy and will national standard for historic preservation. this concludes my presentation. i'm available for any questions regardlessing the ordinance. i believe project sponsor has a brief sponsor.
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>> good afternoon president hyland commissioners and members of the public. i represent the project sponsor. we're real estate development firm with other 30 years track record including historic rehabilitation projects. we're excited to be in front you with another san francisco land mark, hearst building. the hearst building is the third building on the side with with the first building benefi builtn 1853. he's joined by our architect of record. they stand behind san francisco
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most successful historic project and join us today. before i conclude my brief remarks,ly head it over to frederick. you want to thank hearst corporation, san francisco heritage and san francisco planning staff for their support of the project. this project is a labor of love. our team has been working on this project for the past four years and is excited to turn into reality and make historic landmark accessible for the public for years to come. thank you. >> good afternoon commissioners. frederick knapp, preservation architect. i like to walk you through few of the high points of the building and the proposed project. the hearst building at 5 third street was completed in 1911. the building was designed by new york architects.
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17-29 third street was completed in 1907. the changes and addition to the hearst building of note are the 1938 which designed the exterior, the top corner and lobby and built the rooftop penthouse. in 1947, hearst bought 17-29 third street and joined 5 third street. in 1965 hearst move the examiner out of the building and the upper floors were heavily altered then an and for individl
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office tenants. the categories features include almost everything on the exterior except for altered storefronts, the historic lobby, upper floor corridors and the main stair. both buildings category 1 on technically they are single category 1 property but that designation applies to both of them. 5 third street has been determined by the national register and 17-29 third street is a contributor to the new montgomery mission second street conservation district. proposed project will convert the retail office use to a new hotel use and it will primarily involve interior work on the ground floor, there will be a hotel reception and lobby. will be retail leases to food
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and beverage operations connected to the hotel including a restaurant and bar and retail shop. there will be fitness centre, event space and office and meeting spaces as well as the stories converted from office use to hotel guest rooms. there will be a rooftop food and beverage facility at the top of the building as well. this project will conform to the secretary standards as she mentioned it's been reviewed by the office of historic preservation in sacramento for the tax credit program. the design has been approved by office of historic preservation for tax credits. the changes are all driven by the needs of what you need to put a hotel into this building. one thing that we like to put
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before you is that hotel use actually fits the historic upper floor plan better than current open offices do. that's a preservation benefit. the exterior rehabilitation involves maintenance and repair cleaning of the terracotta brick and stone which are in good condition already and will be in better condition. the exterior changes people will notice are going to be the removal of nonhistoric storefronts which will be replaced with compatible store fronts. the lobby will be treated much as the exterior masonry. it's in good condition. it will be minor repairs are needed and clean cleaing. the exterior windows on upper floor will be retained.
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people will not see any change. the storefronts are market as you heard, are largely historic and only substantive change is removing some aluminum storefront and filling to match the original storefront. on 23rd street, third street at the hearst building, nonhistoric elements storefront which is more modified there, will be replaced with compatible. the new fourth floor fennel spac--event space, third streetd the ninth little terrace outside guest room on the ninth floor of the hearst building will not be visible from the street. it will be restrained in their expression in material. at the 13th floor of the
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hearst building, public access will be introduced for the first time with food and beverage operation with a large outdoor terrace. the existing water tower freight elevator override and lunchroom penthouse from the julian morgan project will need to be removed to allow this. an important anything to know about this project it includes a full seismic upgrade of the building. so far there's never been one. it will also will introduce public access to the roof and allow people to see who are using the food and beverage outlet on the roof, the whole historic district and surrounding which has never been available to the public before. thank you very much. >> good afternoon commissioners. caroline chase.
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you want t -- i want to quicking make a clarifications. the staff report notes that the rooftop edition will not visible from a public right-of-way over the primary market street and third street facade. the proposed legislation similarly requires that the proposed additions would not be visible from the primary building frontage. i want to state for the record that our understanding of that means the portion of market street and third street directly in front of the facade should the zoning administrator interpreting that differently, we'll be requesting different amendment. but i think we're all on the same page. thank you. >> president hyland: any questions commissioners? any member of the public wish to speak on this item?
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we have one. >> good afternoon. i read the online packet. i was fascinated to learn about the lunchroom, you learn that way inside the packet that there's a lunchroom. i think everything proposed to be preserve is great except getting rid of the julian morgan little house on the top. cannivecan you have the overhea? it slows the flag pole. lot is made about keeping the flag pole. i hope that's kept. i found this online. i guess this is where the julian morgan house is. i think it's important that report says it's a significant factor.
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it's ricked with -- it's linked with all the things that are preserved. when you was up there, i put a tile. i was really impressed. my sister-in-law lived in hollister there was a man who had tile he bought surplus tile from san simeon years ago. i wondered is it tile from san simeon. there's no way to know that apparently except for the fact that in the report, it says on page 256, there was an architect there, the interior wasn't recondition until 2000. i looked in the permits i see no permit about it being redone in
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2000. i'm wondering is there a way to preserve it and incorporate it in this public space. there are alternatives. one of says -- i don't know what piece they are keeping. per preserving the space. that building could be done away with now storage is supposed to be the event space. deck could be there, it seems that the julian morgan house can be incorporated in a nice event face. not just a fancy hospital room for somebody. but something that will be interesting and historic. we don't have too much julian morgan around. it would be nice to keep that
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too. thank you very much. >> president hyland: any other members of the public? closed public comment. questions? >> i was fortunate to have a tour of the building this morning. i haven't been through the building before. all of my 30 years, i was gobsmacked how fantastic the building is and the condition it's in. as opposed what she said, we have a julian morgan. it's the entire building. there's substantial work that is all going to be preserved as part of this. i really want to thank and congratulate the project sponsor as to how sensitive they are being to the building including
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the hall bays uways up on the gm floor. it will really not have much distinction in the future as it is now. which is a good thing. i think this is a really fine project. i think it's a testimony to this. i gone through the process and even with a building like that, which also was pretty much in tact, it's still was incredibly challenging to go through the process and have that endorsement speaks volumes to the sensitivity that the project responser takinsponsors taking . in terms the penthouse, my standard line is, you see this splinter here, it's not from the
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cross of christ. not every single peace of stucco and window frame necessitate retention in my opinion. i think you can retain the birdhouse. you can retain the tile panel and incorporate it into the event space and then have documentary photographs and drawings. so the public can see it. there was an experience that i had with the bank where there was a penthouse designed by arthur brown jr. it was for lady's lounge for the bank employee. it was a terrible little building. just because it said arthur brown did not make it substantial relative to the integrity of the building. i feel same way about this penthouse. just because it says julian
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morgan, it is so distinct from the building in its design and character. why it's quirky and fun, i don't think it's a requirement that it has morgan's name on it. i endorse the project as it is proposed. you recommend approval of the project. >> commissioner black: speaking specifically to the amendment, the amendment encourage preservation in important buildings like this. there's some nonvisible expansions and modifications. what's happening here is revitalization of an important building. this fixes and all of the details throughout the exterior of the building as well as the characters in the building,
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that's really expensive. removal of the nonhistoric storefront, doing the seismic upgrades, no matter how historic it is. the way to do this is with these amendments. these amendments are what are going to facilitate this and cities all over the country looking for ways and tools to revitalize their important historic structure. i think it's a very clever way of solving this problem and encouraging historic preservation. which is what i'm here for. i'll leave it at that.
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i congratulate everybody involved. very important building. >> thank you. >> commissioner johnck: what i think so dramatically exciting about this project is not only the very specific renovation that you doing what is this doing for the conservation district. this corner -- let me go back to one point thatty would like to emphasize. that is everyone in this city knows. abouabout the palace hospital. . there's some that know about the hearst building. i look at the analogy.
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everyone knows about the palace. but this project will be raised up as notable and achievement and well-known for its value and historic value just like the past. that's one point. the other thing that is to me that's amazing is this morninger is so beaten up. just last night, i could hardly see the building. even know i knew about the building. this would have been about 6:00 at night and everyone knows the traffic on that corner. what you're doing in terms of the cleaning, upgrading and removal of the nonhistoric storefronts, this is all vitally important for the preservation. i think it's a terrific. i applaud your effort and thank
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you for the money. thanks for endorsing this. i think it's wonderful. i certainly support the project and the planning code amendment is vitally important for this. i'll move the project if there's more comments. >> president hyland: we have couple of more. >> vice president matsuda: i also think this is a great project. the name of hearst is well-known to san franciscans, specifically those who knew there was a paper called examiner. it's no longer owned by the hearst. hearst family is mentioned here in this agenda item as well as our legacy business. i think it's really important we are the historic preservation commission.
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we should take every opportunity to talk about history and buildings. if it's available to you, make sure there's some kind of findings. julian morgan was very important architect. now you're going to have this new audience all these hotel guests it would be great opportunity for them know about this significance of the building environment and who created it. >> president hyland: request for additional condition. what is the condition? what is being proposed for the interpretation of the building? is there anything included in the lobby area?
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>> there was no impact because the project meets the standard. there are two improvement marines that are included in the environmenenvironmental documen. >> president hyland: there currently any interpretation in the proposed project. we're not altering the project either. >> we could add a condition. >> one thing that should be noted, there are enormous treasure trove of original drawings at the building. there are lots of drawings that
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have been framed and on display. my understanding from the project sponsor is that, they are going to have those throughout the building. if you can just mention what's available -- >> absolutely. we'll use some the drawing and the other historic materials and guest rooms and public spaces tie it to guest experiences to tell the story of the hearst family and others. >> there will be photos. >> there will be photos and frames. we haven't done a full interior plan. that's definitely the intention. >> she mention the photograph of the cafeteria. i think that would be a great addition as well. >> of course. >> i have a couple of things that i forgot to stay. there's an impression that i love, which is didn't let
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perfection be the enemy of the good. here we have abundant good and i know there's this lawsuit or appeal and it's about the penthouse and i would hope that sanity would prevail and so much good is being done here that for the sake of losing this tiny little piece that the project could go on. one the reasons i say that, i was in chicago recently and building called the london house, which is right on michigan avenue right near where the chicago river goes under michigan avenue bridge there. it's an old office building converted into a hotel. they have a rooftop terrace that overlooks the river. it is a spectacular experience to be up 13 or 14 stories outside over the river in chicago. just being up there this morning, even in the rain, it
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was really a great experience to be up there. i think if the penthouse were left there, it would take away substantial part of that experience. interest wouldn't be room to be able to maneuver and have that space up there. i think that's important. other thing he mentioned this morning, the hearst family still going to be involved in the building and have always space - alwayoffice space there. that is part of the history of this site. >> i have one comment and that is an additional condition. this is in regard to the penthouse. the project has been endorsed by shipo. it hasn't been approved by tax credits yet. the project may change slightly
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beyond what we see. what i'm proposing we add a condition that if the rooftop penthouse alters little bit, that we allow staff to negotiate and facilitate that so it doesn't have to come back before us. >> commissioners. just to provide little more direction for staff, i my recommendation could be to phrase if there's a reduction in scope resulting in the retention of all or part of the penthouse due to the tax credit process. that work be delegated to staff. just clarifying it's a reduction in scope. >> we have two additional changes beyond staff's conditions. >> i move that we approve both the text amendments are
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recommendation and the approve with conditions including the two additional ones, major permits to alter. >> second. >> i understand the one that you just mentioned. >> i wanted to clarify the interpretive measures would those be approved by staff? >> yes. >> good clarification. >> president hyland: on that motion, to adopt resolution recommending approval to the planning commission and board of supervisors the text amendments as well as approving with conditions major permit to alter as amended to include and
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interpretive program to the project and in case there's a reduction in scope due to the tax credit process that evaluation be delegated to sta staff. [roll call] so moved. motion passes unanimously 6-0. that will place us on items 9a through e. [agenda item read] >> i need to recuse myself. >> i can read it into the record.
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than way we're taking up the matter. >> do she have to recuse herself out of order? >> i don't see an issue with you staying and recused from the vote from that first one and listening to the others. >> we're only making a recommendation. >> sorevy. [agenda item readsorry.[agenda r matsuda need to be recused from 1747 buchanan street. >> so moved. >> second. >> thank you commissioners.
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[roll call] commissioner matsuda will you remain to hear and participate in deliberations for items 9/11b through e. we'll take a vote 9a with you being recused from that. >> hello i'm going to review the five applications before you today and then we do have several applicants present who can speak for themselves and describe their businesses for you. this company was established in 1906 and it is the oldest family owned business in san francisco's japan town. it is the last remaining
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manufacturer which are japanese desserts. using traditional methed with dedicated facilities on site left in san francisco. the business was founded on geary boulevard in 1906. the business operated there in two different locations on geary boulevard. the store was temporarily forced to closed when the family returned during world war ii. when the family returned after the war in 1946, they were fortunate that they had neighbors that were able to watch over their space and they were able to return and reopen their shop. in 1959, the business relocated to a current location on
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buchanan street where it currently operates. i wanted to note that the business and the property are associated with three periods of significance, identified in the japan town historic context statement including the japanese settlement, japanese and renewal. the business is associated with the original owner who is also noted as the originatetor of the first fortune cookie recipe. the property is not currently registered on local state or national historic resource registers. however, it was listed in the community prepared inventory of cultural assets which was published as part of the japantown cultural heritage and economic sustainability strategy. it's located with the japantown
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cultural district. the business is mentioned in the historic context statement. some of the physical features, the department is recommending to be safeguarded are the freshly made recipes. that take us to the glide foundation. it feeds homeless and providing shelter without concern for race, creed, economic and social status, sexual orientation or gender. san francisco philanthropist founded the glide foundation in
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1929 and purchased the land at 3330 ellis street to house the program. in 1963 young african-american woman joined the organization and overseeing sunday celebrations. they created a unique vision of building a community rooted in unconditional love and radical inclusivety. the property is also located within the boundary of the transgender cultural district and is noted in associated cultural asset. the department is managing a national park service grant to nominate the property as an individual listing on the
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also recommending stain glass window facing ellis street and grocery toy give away and serving glide famous fried chicken every friday. in addition it these features, recommended by the applicants, staff is recommending three additional which has to do with the physical aspects of the building including the sanctuary space, their dining area and the exterioexterior facade.
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san francisco has been known internationally for its tattoo culture and he contributed greatly to that recognition. he's known globally as founder of this longest running tattoo shop in san francisco. staff is recommending an approval of the application as recommending the following teacher for safeguarding including the original signs created by pat, the interactive murals featuring pat's original art work, pat's tattoo designs and the original business hours which are noon to midnight seven
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days a week. fourth application, randy's place. it was opened in 1975. it will mark 50 years on april 4th this year. rain di's place maybe the second oldest continuously operated bar in san francisco's west side. the first being little shamrock which began operation around 1890. it was constructed prior to 1900. staff is recommending approval of the application and the following features to be safeguarded. their sign, large storefront windows and corner entrance,
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initially started to serve education needs of children immigrated to the united states, the school evolved to be inclusive and supportive community for all helping to bridge language and literacy development. as well as diverse cognitive abilities. staff is supporting the application and recommends the following features. bilingual learning environment and provide quality education opportunities and access to all students. their preschool weekend chinese school, after school and summer camp programs, commitment to serving low income students. that concludes staff presentation. i will open up for questions. >> president hyland: any
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questions? >> i have one question about the glide foundation. on page 5 of the summary it says that foundation has contributed to the history and identity of the japan neighborhood in san francisco? >> that's a mistake. >> second question i have on glide, it talks about the lawsuit. has that concluded? >> the lawsuit has not concluded. ricwe did determine that the lawsuit would not affect designation to the registry. >> i have couple of questions. are any of these businesses in risk of their lease not being renewed? >> do i no -- i do not know tha.
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i'm referring to my colleague carrillo. they are on a month to month lease which per our guidelines will put them in category at risk displacement. as you read in the supplement about the glide foundation's application, there is concern that there -- los could be lossl of their property. >> oare the payments and moammas are they affixed to the building or they are removable?
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>> murals are fixed and the pictures are removable. >> open to public comment. any member of the public wish to speak to the commission on this? >> good afternoon commissioners. i'm here to speak about randy's place. my name is neil ballard. we assisted sue castle in preparing this application. really excited to present this to you. this has been a bar for the entire 20th century. sue has been the operator of randy's place since 1974. for punishment years before that, she wa -- five years befo,
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she was running the bar. that was 1969, this year 2019 is her 50th anniversary. sue castle is a woman of many interests and one of them is guinness world records, things like that. this milestone 50 years is something that very meaningful to her. just having a legacy business designation -- it's a good capstone. having such a historic bar in the district has meant a lot. this is place that operated through prohibition and with the long history that it had, that's really cool. what's even cooler, this is a bar that participates in the charity bar crawls that ocean avenue association organizes.
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we've raised money for public art on ocean avenue from events where people go and drink beer and learn about history. we've worked with western neighborhood projects to have history talks about the history of the bars and the neighborhoods. i like you to encourage you to approve this application. thank you so much for considering it. >> thank you. jennifer wong. >> i wanted to take this opportunity to thank the committee for inviting picture machine tattoo and reviewing our application. i'm second generation san francisco native. i really appreciate the efforts to your committee puts forward in preserving our city's history
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and your awareness of the connection that small businesses share with this community. you wanted to thank you all for inviting us and reviewing our application. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. president hyland of the san francisco historic preservation commission. it is my pleasure and my privilege to appear buffer to speak about the application for the legacy business registry. it is my duty and responsibility to speak
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