that program, expected to close in june of this year, and then next we will be looking -- some of the programs that still have outstanding authorization such as clean and safe neighborhood parks is about $3.1 million left. the affordable housing, 2015 bond, and then the public health and safety bond are all financings that could come to market before the end of the calendar year. >> to be have that written in here? it wasn't in my version. >> we have a different -- there was a different chart this time which is actually the authorized bonds outstanding, and the authorized and unissued , but next time we will go back to our typical format. >> yeah, that was great. who created this? can someone walk us through this? >> sure. so this is a table that we use when we go out to markets, so

when we sell bonds, we prepare an offering statement, and as part of that offering statement in the appendix, we include a table that is very similar to this one, so it has been updated a couple times a year at least. what this shows is -- i think if you look at the middle columns and the total there of the $2.5 billion, that's all of our geo- bonds that are currently outstanding, and then the way they are categorized you can see on the left here. so they are categorized by authorization. so the seismic safety s.f. lp is with the repurposed thing because that was repurpose in a seismic safety, and then you can see there is the 2008 parks , and so on. those are all the different authorizations ending with the most recent seawall one, and then the next category, we also show our geo- refunding bond.

so you can refinance your mortgage, you can also refinance general obligation bonds, so those are listed at the bottom. the issued column shows what has been issued to date of items that fall under these authorizations, and that's a total of about $4 billion, that as -- since we pay down debt after we issue it over time, the current balance of what's been issued is to $.5 billion which is the middle column, and then finally, the authorized by and issued, you can see, if you look at the bottom, that total is a $1.1 billion, at the bottom, we'll be issuing the first serious for the seawall. we have $425 million that is authorized and unissued, and so that's just the balance of what's left, and what can be issued and will likely be issued in the coming years.

and in tranches for some of them. >> for my colleagues, this is the scope, this is what we are responsible for. it also -- it replaces -- they're thinking about replacing this one in your packet which is a little bit harder to read, i don't thank you completely does, some of the things i see missing on here is what is called here and authorized amount. so i don't know what we want to do about reconciling these two documents to each other. >> would it be helpful in our document to have an additional column that show the initial authorization? >> i think so. it was a billion-dollar bond. we have issued half a million of it, that is the interesting part is that half a million is unissued. the outstanding column, i'm not sure, that is a financing.

>> i think that the investors care a lot about that. it is just how much debt is currently on our books. that is why we showed that column. >> right. >> we can add the authorized and then you can see -- >> i have a point for the outstanding column that is important. i think it relates to oversight because they are outstanding, the issues have been funding -- funded, and these are actually the dollars that end up in the expenditures that we are supposed to oversee. do you think it -- if you think of it that way because the outstanding -- the dollars that have been issued -- >> i don't think it is a bonds that is paid for, i think the city of san francisco hasn't paid it off yet. which one of those is it? >> correct, when we sell bonds, we will get a lump-sum up front , but then we pay back those bonds over time, typically over a 20 year period

, except for -- >> it is not, you know, you are right, you are missing a huge part of this, which is saying, you know, we gave you half a million dollars, and you have only spent near 20,000 of it, what happens, you're sitting on a whole bunch of cash, right? i don't know how to reconcile that. that is the interesting thing, from our perspective, is how much -- why is it going out for another issuance if they already have hundreds of thousands -- hundreds of millions of dollars? >> that is why i am saying the outstanding relates to -- it relates to some of the ongoing expenditures, maybe i'm missing something totally. >> yes, maybe it's just a terminology issue. outstanding, the debt has been issued, we have the funds, we have spence them, they are in repayment schedules. >> or in the process.

>> or in process of being spent [laughter] >> wait, we've got feedback. >> just to quickly clarify, the amount on the table that you are seeing is outstanding and that is the amount we have to pay back, which doesn't relate to the amounts that we are spending on the bond. so the yellow charge that you are referring to, that comes from accounting, and they are tracking the proceeds that we received from the bonds and how quickly we are spending them, so if you would like, we can make sure the total authorization is reflected on that, and that might be useful for you. >> right, but in the outstanding thing, just to be clear, it is different -- >> that is different. that is how much we have to pay back to the investors, completely unrelated to how

much is spent. >> right. >> that might be clearer if you separated it, but in my own thinking, we received the funds , that's why they are outstanding and we have to pay that back. because the fact that we have received the funds, those funds have gone into expenditures, part of which we are responsible for, so if we didn't expand them, we wouldn't have to pay them back. >> no. for example, like the sfgh bond from 2008, we have spent all the funds that we issued bonds for and we got the proceeds. we spent those proceeds, with the bonds are still outstanding , that is still debt we have to pay back, so there are no more proceeds to conduct oversight over, but there's still outstanding debt that we have to pay back. that is what is reflected on the chart. >> no, i understand that. maybe it is just the way these numbers are presented that is

making some of us ask questions , because it is not the other format we are used to seeing. >> right. >> any public comment? >> awesome. i think we are adjourned. are we adjourned? [laughter] >> i have -- sorry, for the chair, we need to, i think, define bond areas. i think some people are overworked because they are carrying two or three. how do you want to proceed? okay, that sounds great. okay. >> awesome. >> thank you.

>> we can't hear you, is your microphone on? >> again, welcome to the commission on ageing and adult services. we have a new commissioner, and i would like her to introduce herself and just give us a few comments about her background. >> good morning, and i'm very happy to be here. i've always introduced my name is i am felicia elizondo. i am a historyian, a 32 year

survivor of aids and a viet nam war veteran, and i'm very happy to be here. [applause] >> okay. will the secretary please take the roll call. [roll call] >> clerk: please note that deputy director cindy kaufman is present. at this time, the committee asks that you silence all mobile phones and sound-producing devices. >> president serina: thank you. may i have a motion to approve the agenda and a second? thank you. any discussion? all in favor?

any opposed? motion carries. may i have a motion to approve the januafebruary 19, 2019 min? thank you. any discussion? all in favor? any opposed? motion carries. next item, reports. >> i just have a few updates since last commission meeting. as many of you know, commissioner mcspadden is in washington d.c. for a briefing with the n4a. this is for legislator to hear and provide feedback on areas of policy focus as well as

provides members with thoughts and ideas. the older americans act expires at the end of 2019. they will work with policy makers and stakeholders to update the policy authorization. i'm not sure everyone is familiar with it. it was first signed into law in 1965 as president johnson as part of an initiative aimed at eliminating poverty and injustice among the country's population. it remains critical, given our growing demographic. in a nutshell, it allows ageing in place through a variety of support. it provides for local flexibility which is vital for providing needed services, and it helps older caregivers. for the reauthorization an4a i

structured around the following principle principles. one, to meet the public where they're at. one, by growing investments to bring it to a baseline of $2.5 billion. they're also looking to foster innovations in service delivery with expand of title six, enhancing the act's ability to address various populations and innovations to expand access to consumers. and finally, they're looking to ease the administrative barriers in order to increase access to services. they want congress to allow additional flexibilities to address administrative burdens and enable them to better

address the needs of their local service areas. i am sure director mcspadden will provide updates when she returns. -- for that day, he had many bills, but they focused on three of his bills. one is ab-36 which establishes the department of community living. this bill creates a new department that will be more stream lined with a coordinated delivery care system.

it will also be able to work across state agencies on behalf of older people with disabilities. the second bill is ab 1137 which is legislation to modernize the older californiians act. this act focuses on age demographics as opposed to solely on need, and there's some archaic language that they want to cleanup there in, as well, ab 1237 establishes the master plan of an ageing california that implements a no wrong door system to assist ageing persons and older persons with disabilities. the chief deputy director of budget was also there, along with the fiscal and policy analyst for the legislative

analyst's office, and the office of the president pro tem, and deputy cabinet secretary in the governor's office. almost all of the speakers emphasized the governor's commitment to a master plan on ageing, which was really good to hear. they acknowledged there was no funding right now, but the focus was on getting the right people in the room so they can have a robust stakeholder input. they recognize the need for it to be person centered with better consolidated services. they stated multiple times that it is the beginning of the process, then, they can look at recommendations that come forward and then, they can develop a budget based on the needs of the recommendations. there was also mention. alzheimer's preparation task force, which maria shriver will

lead. there's more to come in all of these areas, and you will get updates from diane lawrence who's in charge of our joint legislative committee, so more to come as the dates go forward. next, a draft of the service and allocation plan, which is part of the dignity plan four-year planning cycle was posted last friday. it is posted on our website. if any of you care to see it, we can also send you copies, if you'd like a copy. i have to give thanks to staff for pulling this together. last, but not least, we are at the five year mark for the publication of the report and recommendations from the lgbt task force. march is literally the five-year mark. saturday, march 9, i think 10:00 to 12:00, we will have celebration highlighting the

accomplishments. the mayor will be there, as well as supervisor mandelman, and senator wiener, who championed the cause at the beginning. i think that does it. >> president serina: thank you, cindy. regarding the older americans act, how do you think the -- likely to you think the current administration is to reup it and add the money? >> i think -- the money is its own question. i think there is a will to do it. it is -- of many things that are, it is bipartisan. many people are seeing the social indicators of health, and that's the type of services that the older americans act funds. i think they see that, and

there's a lot of advocacy around it. >> will this department be involved in the advocacy for it? >> well, that's part of -- we get highlights around it's time to write your senators, and i will send this out to everybody. that is one of the things that director mcspadden is doing right now, is meeting with the le legislators. as we get the call to action, we will share it with everybody. >> thank you very much. >> president serina: thank you very much. any comments or questions from the commission? any comments or questions from the public? thank you very much, cindy. [gavel]. >> president serina: next is the advisory council report.

eleanor lury is here. thank you, eleanor. >> diane lawrence is in sacramento today, so she asked me to present. so we spent quite a lot of time discussing some of the issues that the joint legislative committee discussed but took no action on them. these include -- let's see -- i'm sorry. medi-cal assisted living waivers, accessory dwelling units, speeding up the process for approval of those, masking of identification of service providers for i.h.s.

conservator legislation, transportation legislation, federal act getting people out of institutions. concerns that if you sign up incorrectly for medicare, you are penalized for a month. that would be federal legislation. so no action was taken. you've probably heard this but in the governor's state of the state, he called on the graying of california and the need for that. he mentioned right sizing in-home support services because local costs have increased dramatically over the

last few years, and apparently, there's a bill to trail that, but apparently, it hasn't been introduced. let's see. today, the association of area agencies on ageing in california are meeting in sacramento, which is where diane is, and they'll be visiting their representatives. on march 9, there's a celebration of the fifth year of the lgbt task force, which 11 of 13 recommendations have been implemented. and april 14 through 19 is national health care decisions week, which includes workshops on advanced planning. director mcspadden and rose johnck presented the 2019-2020 update to the area plan. the council raced questions about it, which were answered,

and approved the plan. these included area of transportation nutrition, daas, and food security which will be made better through the calfresh s.s.i. program. this year, the department will have a presentation to get ready for the next four year. the pedestrians safety committee, which i chaired, is working to contact various agencies and interest groups connected with pedestrian safety and to see what they're doing and if they actually work together, and what are the requirements for independent contractors who work on major street and sidewalk projects.

for example, vanness avenue which specifically has been quite a mess for a long time. and work is starting on geary boulevard up where i live. diane was going to ask bridget to have a calfresh flier available for commissioners. were you able to do that or did she not ask? >> she did not ask. >> okay. okay. very good. so that's my presentation. i'll be glad to answer questions if i can. >> president serina: thank you, eleanor. any comments or questions from the commission? >> yes. which are the two nutrition sites you people visited? >> i don't know because i never -- we ran out of time. they were not presented. >> president serina: any other comments or questions? any comments or questions from

the public? all right. thank you very much, eleanor. >> you're welcome. >> president serina: and earlier, going cam to cindy kaufman's presentation, i want to echo her warm praise for the allocation plan on the dignity fund. i've been on the board since its inception. i know the work that's gone into it, what an exceptional attempt is being made to rectify equity issues and to get as much data for underserved populations as available. it's a commendable result, and i think those of us who have read it and those of us who will read it will be surprised at the work that's been done. okay. no tack report, ltcc -- long-term coordinating council. kelly dearman.

welcome back. it's a long time since you've graced us with your presence. >> i'm happy to come back any time you want me. >> president serina: well, that's always. >> good morning, deputy serina and commissioners. i am kelly dearman, and i am a very proud member of the long-term care coordinating council, and i'm here today to give you just a little bit of an update as to what we did last month. so the long-term care coordinating council met on february 14, and we talked about the dignity fund, which department director kaufman has already mentioned. we talked about that. then, we spent sometime talking about san francisco ageing and disability friendly. you all know that san francisco has been designated an ageing

and availability friendly se we talked about community supports and services. we have done ablism and ageism training for health care professionals. we are now working on getting more funding for that. it has proven to be really successful, and we talked about the resilience and disaster preparedness domain. and in particular, we talked about an alert sf targeted

outreach campaign. and i'm hopeful that all of you are clear on alert sf, which notifies you if there are any disasters or issues that we should be aware of. so in the coming months, the ltccc has talked about a really big youch reach push to encourage the people within our networks to sign up. so there'll be trainings, there'll be people signing up. we believe that's going to happen in april, but don't hold me to that. then, we broke up in small groups to find out where we can have impact and i just want to say that our cochairs are working hard with us and make

sure we think at the policy level and what's the impact that our body can have. >> since director dearman is here, i just wanted to publicly thank president serino for

proffering my name as the representative of this body to sit on the ihss public authority governing body seat number seven, the vacant seat that's representative of this body. i look forward to representing this body and serving on your board. >> president serina: i'm delighted that commissioner pappas accepted the appointment. >> thank you, commissioner. i just have one question or comment. a lot has been happening at the public authority, so i would really welcome you all to see

how -- to come and speak to you about how we're doing and where we're going. >> president serina: we will work on scheduling a presentation. thank you very much. case report. new business? old business. [agenda item read]. >> president serina: thank you. welcome, rose. okay. good morning, commissioners. let me know if you can't hear

me. my name is rose johns. i'm with the policy and planning unit at the human services agency. i'm here with deputy director kaufman today to present on the area plan update for fiscal year 19-20. okay. so just a quick agenda for what we're going to cover today. we're going to start with a quick overview of the area plan and area plan update. i know for some of you, it's old material, but for some of you, it's new, so stop me if you have any questions. we're going to spend some time highlighting the key sections in the update report and then talk about next steps with you. okay.

this is a requirement under the older americans act that daas prepare a four-year plan every four years that outlines how the department will address the needs of older adults in the local service area. the purpose of the plan is to look at demographic trends and outline needs and then look at how the department will use its older americans funding to address these needs. it's important to note that the area plan focuses only on those confidences that are funded by older americans act money and that's just a portion of what the department does. to put it in context, the department gets about $6 million from the state for community-based services. overall, the department spends about $60 million a year on community-based services, so this is just a portion of the services that are provided. and then in the interim years

between the four-year plan, we submit an update to the state that provides an update of what we're doing that sets new goals and targets for the upcoming year. we're required to submit full sections from the area plan. those are listed here, and you have them in the report that you received last week. and so i just wanted to provide a little more context for where we are in the current four-year cycle. this is the area period covering 2017 through 2020 and what we're working on is our final update in the cycle. so we are in fiscal year 18-19, as you know, and we are preparing the update for next year. this update is due to the state by may 1. and so we've been working on this since around december,

which is when the state released the instructions for this report. as eleanor noted, we presented to the advisory council last month, and they did a plan to review the update and bring it to you this month. as you see here and as i just said, the report is due by may 1. and then, we will be working with the new four-year plan, 2021 through 2024, and that is our next opportunity to get creative and mix-up what we're doing. so typically, the reports are more of an annual update to update the frameworks that we've established already.

okay. so moving onto some of the main sections in the area plan update. something at that we look at every year is the population demographics. the reason we do this is helps us identify the ageing population with the greatest need. when we look at the pie chart on the right, which is seniors living in poverty below the federal poverty threshold, we see a different story. we see that communities of color are overrepresented. for example, though asian pacific islanders are 43% of all seniors, there are almost half of those in poverty. again it's really important that we keep track of these trends so when the department is developing its procurements and entering into contracts for services, we make sure that we are partnering with agencies

that can really help us reach the populations most in need. >> president serina: rose, excuse me. it might be helpful if you told us what the definition of poverty was. >> sure. so this is based on the federal poverty flesh hold, which is annual income of about $12,000 a year for a single individual. so this is really those who are at the lowest lowest income level. >> president serina: thank you. destitute. >> yes. that is often the word that we actually use. thank you. the other -- one of the other major sections in the area plan update report is the service unit plan objectives, which is basically where we say the service levels we expect for next year. what we've put on the slide is how the units for next year compare to what we put forward last year. and what you see is that in the main nutrition programs, we're anticipating an increase in

service, and that's largely toto enhanced local funding. there are four areas where we're projecting a decrease in units and that's really because we've been looking at service trends over the last few years and we've trying to bring our anticipated levels closer to what's actually being provided. the one exception is nutrition education, and those are classes typically provided at senior centers. we're seeing a decrease here because city college has been provided education classes at community centers, and they are scaling back that program, so the department was not funding that before, but we were able to count the units. the department will still be providing about 50,000 units of this service next year.

and then the metrics. what i would highlight i guess for you there is the family caregiver support program. we are anticipating a decrease in respite care hours through this program for next year, and that's because outside of older americans act funding, daas has established a new respite care service using dignity fund money. so within the family caregiver support program funded by the state, the department is shifting those dollars to support different services in this program such as counseling and support groups. overall, daas has -- can you -- it's just a different funding source, so those units aren't included in this report. [please stand by]

. >> -- the four that have been completed, kelly mentioned a couple of them. one was ab-1376 which was the legislation to enable raid share. the other is ageing and ablism for health care professionals

as well as increasing crosswalk timing, allowing people more time to get across the street, and then the lasted is the assisted facility recommendations that was sent to the mayor, and that was part of the long-term care coordinating council's effort to support affordable living in san francisco. the next goal is to establish better coordination of services. as you know, the long-term care coordinating council is an adviso advisory council to the mayor's office. again, kelly highlighted some of these efforts. this past year, the council did a retreat to focus truly on a strategic plan going forward. they looked at mission, vision, values, core principles, and functions, and then, from that, they identified priority areas in long-term care system. there are many things that are needed in san francisco, but the focus of this group truly

is on long-term care. from there, they identified key policy areas, strategies, and they're looking at two to three action items for the coming here. the current high level policy areas include social engagement, transportation, and workforce, among others. next is to increase access to services, and we're looking at the do say benefits and re -- daas benefits and resources. in 2018-19, daas will slightly restructure operations at the hub to account for past and upcoming growth. the goal is to enhance service integration and support smooth operations. we are moving the eligibility unit which currently is part of the ihss program. we're moving them as part of

the hub both within the reporting structure, as well. the primary change will be to institute a program manager with all the programs operating at that site which includes integrated incident tack and referral unit, the eligibility unit, and the county veteran's services office. so we're hoping -- we're going forward with -- [inaudible] >> -- in working with lgbtq

community members and recording sexual orientation and gender identity data. we've seen good progress. prior to the local ordinance, 40% of clients and community base services were missing a response to the sexual orientation question. last year, that decreased to 10%. and equity analysis of service utilization by lgbtq older adults found that this population tends to access services at lower rates than the overall population. part of the department's work will be to address this disparity and to convene community leaders and service providers to ensure the lgbtq community members feel comfortable accessing services across the city, not just those offered by the lgbtq focused agencies, and that clients feel comfortable disclosing their identity. so that -- i think now we move onto any questions.

>> president serina: thank you very much, cindy. i have a few questions, rose. one, when you prepare the next four-year plan, will you be able to incorporate some of the information that's come out of the dignity fund analysis because a great deal of work that's been done there? >> yes, absolutely. we will be drawing on particularly the needs assessment that was done last year as part of our area plan submission to the state in that we will be including that content and also using -- the department is using it kind of across the board to structure its strategic planning. >> president serina: great. and then a couple of other observations. i was surprised to see the decrease in nutrition education and then also in transportation because i know that transportation is a really big issue, and i understand that it was based on actual o

utilization. do you think that's driven by not having as much need or simply lack of awareness of what's being offered? >> that's a great question. i think if you'd like me to speak further about the nutrition education classes, i can do that, but what i was just referencing regarding city college decreasing the program, it was colocating at daas services, and so that's the reason for the decrease there? with regard to transportation, i'd actually like to invite mike zaag to come up and speak on that. >> good afternoon, commissioners. mike zaag, with the transportation on ageing. our transportation services is a -- is a -- so it's a service that ties to that. it's rides to and from the center, so that's part -- step

one of it. we do think that it is -- we are working towards trying to figure out why it isn't being utilized more. we talked with the providers. we're going to start quarterly meetings with them, starting this fiscal year, to look at service levels and to try to look at that further. >> president serina: thank you. any other comments? commissioner loo? >> who are the provider of transportation and how much it decreases it for next year? >> how much -- well, we have four providers of transportation. they are kimochi, self-help for the elderly, central latino, and then trans dev, which is also the paratransit broker, so they are a for-profit provider. and then, you spoke to decrease? >> yes. how much is the decrease? >> so we actually have not seen a decrease over the past three, four years. in fact, the numbers have just stayed really flat in that

low-to-mid 30,000 rides per year range. we're decreasing it on our area plan because historically, we've tried to reach that 40,000 rides per year goal, but we haven't, so we're bringing that cap down. >> yeah. because transportation is such important for the seniors when they can go out and go to the doctor's office. it's a little bit about really the decreasing transportation fund. >> president serina: yes, thank you. and regarding transportation, the city in terms of the muni is very focused on speeding up transit times. and with that goal, which is admirable in mind, they've eliminated many stops, which presents more problems for

seniors, who have further to walk, or further to walk to their destination. i don't know how to solve that because it's something that needs to be addressed. no one wants to see the muni get slower, but at the same time, everybody needs access to it. any other questions? commissioner? >> yes. thank you for the presentation. it's really great for someone who's new to the commission to have that foundation i need? so thank you for that. and i know that a lot of people contributed to this, so i just wanted to acknowledge that. just a really minor question on the nutrition education, just returning to that, is it going to be filled from another source or are we anticipating that? is this all because of the ccsf problems that they're having? we just want to recognize as a body that we know that that education is really important.

so i didn't quite hear that, if there needs to be a plan to makeup for a deficit or sort of what's the strategy around that? >> yeah. so my sense is -- my understanding is that daas is maintaining its funding levels for this service and will be looking at how it is utilized and if this seems to be a negative effect, that people are missing this service, i don't know that daas is planning to fill -- to increase its own funding for its service? but i think keeping an eye on service utilization, more people showing up to use the service, or food security status, that's something we'll be keeping an eye on and considering it, particularly as we prepare the next four-year plan. >> okay. great. thank you. >> president serina: thank you. and one other comment. i've been on the commission a

long time, although contrary to public comment, not since san francisco and california were part of mexico. and in that period of time, i have seen the commitment to getting information about the ageing lgbtq community and delivering services to that community grow dramatically. when i joined, i was the first openly gay commissioner serving here, and i advocated, and the response has been extraordinary. and i'm really grateful and want to acknowledge that because it's a huge, huge improvement. thank you. any comments or questions from the public? thank you, cindy and rose. thank you. >> of course. so if i could, just next steps would be if you feel comfortable voting to approve today. if you would like, we can return next month also if you need more time to sit with this. >> president serina: i don't know how the commissioners feel. are you comfortable voting and to approve the report? okay. all right. then call the question. may i have a motion to approve

the report? >> i so move. >> second. >> thank you. any further comments or questions? hearing none, call the question. all in favor? any opposed? thank you again. >> thank you. >> president serina: item b, requesting authorization to modify the existing grant with senior and disability action for an additional amount of $38,855 plus a 10% contingency for a total amount not to exceed $281,233. welcome, rick appleby. >> good morning, president and commissioners and deputy director kaufman and bridget. the modification before us right now is a wonderful opportunity to assist senior and disability action to

enhance their current computer lab and make it more accessible. as you've read, one of the main focuses is buying innovative equipment to allow people with a broader range of disabilities to come in and use the computer lab, to access information on the internet and social meet i can't in a way that they may not have been able to in other places. the goal here is to have people learn more about it. we mentioned a couple of examples of the kinds of equipment, so a closed circuit t.v. is one example that can have a large caption on it for

people who may not be able to see regular caption. head pointers, voice recognition and voice activated systems all can help people with those related disabilities. i wanted to mention another aspect that didn't get full explanation. the senior and disability action will also utilize peer support trainers and volunteers. there's a recognition of course that you bring in people from the older adult and disability community to learn about the commuter lab, to learn about using this new equipment, questing equipment, and be able to train folks that come in how to use it, troubleshoot problems, assist them to find what they're looking for on-line, along with the advocacy aspect, learning about

advocacy. people just need some help novemb navigating through that complex system of finding housing, jobs, and services. so folks from the community will be there with a familiarity and to support people there. the support trainers and volunteers will in turn go out to their communities and talk about the computer lab and the accessibility there, what you can accomplish, and hopefully bring more folks in to the computer lab at senior disability action. they want to great a community around their -- create a community around their office, the computer lab, the accessible network so that

folks can support each other, be part of a way that they might not be able to in the past and go out and advocate for themselves and others. i think that's it. thank you for now and for your support on this. >> president serina: thank you. any questions? commissioner loo? >> yeah, i have a question on the budget, okay? modification and i'm just wondering -- first of all, i like you highlighting the modification. thank you. but i don't understand why the modification indirect service is 23.55% while the others are 15%. >> is that on the -- >> on the budget.

>> page one, appendix one. >> if you look at the total for the modification, it includes the equipment costs for 10,000, and the page four, as part of the indirect. that was a new recent change that we're able to provide indirect as part of the capital expenditure sequence, as well. >> okay. i know there is a reason you won't make that kind of mistake and i want to know why. thank you. >> thank you. >> president serina: thank you. any other comments or questions from the commission? >> just one question. with the rapidly changing technology, i have twins, and they're my technology consultants. with technology changing so rapidly, how do they stay current? >> well, hopefully senior and

disability actions through their consultations and understanding of computer lab innovative technology, they'll be updating their systems and the folks coming in will be continually exposed to newer and better equipment for them. also, bringing folks in from the community, they're going to let you know if there are new material out there, new innovations here. >> that's fine. this is san francisco. we moffat a rapid pace here. >> president serina: thank you. any other comments or questions? any comments from the public? jessica. >> jessica lehman from senior and disability action. i just want to respond to that last question. thank you for the question.

we do recognize that these things change so fast. we do realize it's time for that again. part of our effort here is to look at equipment that has been around for a while and we think will continue. and things like height adjustable tables are nice where those won't go out of vogue. and then part of as rick mentioned, bringing in peer trainers and making sure they have support from staff and i.t. consultants to be able to learn about changes as they come up to pass them onto our computer lab participants. and then i mentioned that we wanted to get this started right away since it's already march. i have some job announcements for computer trainers and lab workers. i'll leave them on the side if commissioners or other folks want to take some with