>> this is a reminderly to silence all electronic devices. regular meeting march 27, 2019, item one roll call. [roll call] we have a quorum.

item two, general public comment. members of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes within the jurisdiction. commissioners will not enter into debate or discussion with the speaker. >> public comment. >> president nakajo: any member wish to approach the podium. public comment is closed. commissioners, at this time any questions or discussions? seeing none. madam secretary. >> [agenda item read]

>> president nakajo: any public comment. seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners? >> vice president covington: the only change of substance that have proposed to madam secretary -- [laughter] -- that's loud music. i did not propose that to her. i wanted on page 5, sixth

paragraph down, i would like to have some details included. details from the fire scene and how it's organized. i also think it's important to add that the fire department is on top of the pecking order for those kinds of incidents. >> president nakajo: thank you very much. for the record, could we reflect that commissioner joe veronese joined us. >> commissioner veronese: i call request for approval of the minute. [agenda item read] >> president nakajo: we believe we have the deputy director of

public works charles higueras. at this point welcome to the commission meeting mr. higueras. >> good afternoon president nakajo and commissioners. i'm charles higueras. i'm with public works. i'm the bond program manager for the earthquake safety and emergency response bond programs 2010 and 2014. we're very happy to be here. we will be offering you this presentation. it's been the product of a great collaborative with the fire department throughout. i hope that it will be evident to you a we go through this report. we'll switch to the next slide. i'm going to take this first slade. i'm going to ask matt to take it over. the catalyst for this project is

in large part departure interest treasure island. to the development and anticipated for the island. we have met with title or the treasure island development authority and secured from them the affirmation, they wish the facility to depart island by 2024. the date in 2024 is now specific in so far it's not indicated but we are taking it as the last day of 2024. we will need that time. as you know, we are involved with developing the bond program for 2020. this project of the prior training facility is one the components of that bond program. in order to go forward, we do need to understand where we're headed. that's been the work we've undertaken over the last few years. with that said, i would like to

ask matt to step up and walk us through the balance of the presentation. >> thank you very much mr. higueras. may i have clarity in terms of last name. thank you for your time and your attention. over the past two or three years, we've been working on a number of studies. we have three to date which started in june of 2016 have recently been concluded as of late 2018. so october. those three studies were developed by public works as well as a third party consultant that specializes in public safety buildings. we worked with the san francisco

fire department in developing some of the details of those reports. the first study was a space and use inventory of existing functions at two facilities. there we cataloged all the existing administrative institutional and training facility uses. this started in december of 2017 and wrapped up in march of 2018. the second study we did was essentially a training inventory for 2016. we work with the san francisco fire department in cataloging all the training activities that occurred during 2016 to better understand what the potential future need would be. we worked directly with lieutenant here today. this study started june of 2016 and culminated in march of 2018. the last study the final report

by partnership of m.w.l., mcclaire, wilson and laurie, they are the specialty consultants, began in early 2019 and wrapped up in october of 2018. the specifics for that report were to identify the facility needs, the current uses, square fattening required for program areas for both the site and specific buildings for a 50-year plus facility. that include both occupied spaces unoccupied spaces and utilities and infrastructure. there are two primary training facilities. the first is treasure island and the second division of training on folsom street.

primary issues with that is significant travel between these two site and frequent training schedules. there's duplications and equipment because the duplicate facility. there's inefficiency because of the distance between the two facilities. we also have site inhibited constraints. we don't have all the training activities that would be provided on one site. there's a lack of facilities to properly train personnel and specific fire training activities. those include trench rescue, commercial flat roof ventilation, flammable liquid and wildlife fire fighting. the existing facilities, treasure island, is 4.75 acres. that's located on a former navy ship war fire fighting training

centre. the second training is located at 2310 folsom is 1.35 acres adjacent to fire station 7. this next slide identifies those specific training activities that are required either by standard in particular the national fire protection association or federal and state legislation. these standards cover live fire rescue and other training props that are critical to the san francisco fire department training and preparation for emergency response. we have firefighters here who can answer any specific questions that you might have around mandates after the presentation. the study findings, the predesigned study by m.w.l. identified total acreage for new

building requirement which is about 2.3 acres. then another 5.4 achers for other props, training activities and site requirement. total acreage required identified in their report is about 7.7 acres or close to 8. this is assuming it will be on a single site and single level. there are reductions that could be realized by stacking some of the program in particular training and administrative building could be on multiple floors reducing the overall site footprint. interest could be reductions in the program elements and areas. the major program areas that the facility would require are as i previously mentioned, a training administration and classroom building. this is the building that could

be grouped together in a three-story building. administrative functions that could be offices, staff areas meetings rooms and apparatus building, maintenance shop building. various training props including search and confidence, training tower and victoria burn rams, commercial burn rooms, container burn room, a mock bart station platform and train. there are also multiple users who currently use the training facilities and would be expected to use a future training facility. those include the recruit training academy and that that

consists of daily classroom instructions hands field training. in addition, there's fire training which consist of engine and ladder company training during shift time to refresh or retrain on specific props and scenarios some limited classroom activity. in this academy provides both classroom and hands on training and test both recruits, emts and firefighters. partners and committees generally use the site during weekend and evenings to really supplement the program areas they don't already have. examples of those groups include city college, maritime academy and various nonprofits. the final group is the

neighborhood emergency response team. it consist of staff workstation, supply and storage area. san francisco fire department is committed to expanding the nert program. based on the facility population report and data gathered from the 2016 training activity, we know that 45% of the training facility was used by fire in service training. that's for 41 specific training specializations and evolutions. 30% is by the fire arnold. academies. this includes five day per week, 20 week academies, typically 54 recruits. 60% by e.m.s. academies these vary between 3, 6 and 8-week

academies and inservice e.m.s. a 7%. majority of that is rereasonsing. reasons -- relicensing. in the same study, the total usage per year is 49,220. that's the number of people who cycled through both training academies. that averages about 4000 per month little over 4000 with the highest use occurring in october and lowest in july. those numbers will change but that was specific to the 2016 study that we performed. the preferred place for the new location based on the data now is about approximately 7 acres and a adjacent to the bay

provide for water rescue training which does not exist and within or adjacent with a reasonable adjacency to san francisco so the firefighters can access the facility from their stations. final few slides represent training props. these aren't specific. we thought about for future training facility for san francisco. but represent. call training props that we could expect to see at a new training facility. that concludes our presentation. thank you. >> president nakajo: thank you very much. this particular point, i will ask for public comment on this presentation. seeing none.

public comment is closed. commissioners, questions for the presenters? >> vice president covington: th. mr. higueras and mr. jasmine, thank you for your presentation. i particularly appreciate the forward-thinking regarding the training props wells the new location, the preferred characteristics. i think you hit the nail on the head here regarding that. one site i think we should say eight acres since it's 7.7. let's round it up to 8. that way we don't fall short.

adjacency to bay shoreline for ease of water rescue training, i think if we're going to move, we really do need to amp that up a bit sonja that i'm glad that you included it. also within reasonablly reasonat to san francisco. thank you for the presentation. i wanted to see this in detail for quite some time. it's very important we have the place for the next generation firefighters to be trained in

the facility that accommodates what's happening if the real world now. thank you. >> commissioner veronese: thank you for your presentation. this has been well thought tout. my question is, maybe you're not the right people to answer this question, the elephant in the room is, we know what we want what are we doing about it? >> i understand the real estate has this among others. one of their top to do to find alternative sites and to pursue those to some acquisitions. we met them as recent as last week. it's clear they are pursuing that now.

we cannot disclose what those potentials are because you can appreciate within the world of real estate, commissioner cleaveland can support this. it's important to keep things close to the vest. we don't want to see ourselves at the a disadvantage to someone who will seek to undermine what we seek to inquire as regard to land. i could suggest that there is effort afoot from real estate to seek out appropriate property. >> commissioner veronese: are you optimistic. this commission has been hearing that for years now. are you optimistic that we are zeroing in on a property that is suitable for these particular needs? my follow-up question is going to be, do we know what that will cost? is that part of existing easter bond will it part of a future

esa bond? >> it's hard to know what the consequence will be of a particular land acquisition. it could be a significant range. depending as well on ultimately what parcel, what size we truly require. we've been talking about 7.7 or 7. that is on the occupied in regard to the size of the facility. we find ourselves going multistory or becoming more efficient in how we render the variety of aspects of the project at a particular site. we might need a much smaller site, 5 achers, maybe 6. it's hard to know now. the land value will flex between certain size make 6 acres up to 8 acres. that's all still in play.

>> commissioner veronese: is there a future bond anticipated would that be in play this that future bond? >> my understanding is that esa 2020 is meant to be the funding mechanism for the project once and for all. lots of things adjust and flex as it get to board of supervisors and what is included in the bond and how accrues to particular components. you all know what the current disposition of sums are within the bond. as i say, until it gets approved by the board, everything is in play. >> commissioner veronese: are you optimistic that we're zeroing in on a suitable site? >> from what i know, i'm not a real estate person, what real estate has intended to do, i'm confident they will find a property that will be suitable to the purpose that we've described here this evening.

>> commissioner veronese: okay, thank you. thanks for all the work you guys are doing. >> commissioner cleaveland: thar presentation. i had a couple of questions, did you look into any of the port property down in the southeast part of the city? that have been available to us for training facility? >> there have been properties in the southeast that have been looked into. i would say they are not high probability at the moment given circumstances to the ownership of those properties. there's no zone being left unturned in the pursuit of an appropriate property.

>> commissioner cleaveland: they own lot of property and lot of it sits vacant. there seem to be an opportunity there. we don't know the private route. also looking at parcels i assume. we can do three or four stories minimum? >> vertical is a strategy is best when you're looking for advantages in regard how you rate yourself on the site. it will correspond it what site we're able to acquire. >> commissioner cleaveland: i do like having the training facility on the water. have we looked into land in san mateo county?

>> i can tell you that that is within the realm of possibility in regard how real estate is considering what options exist in the world. >> commissioner cleaveland: we have airport if san mateo. thank you for your report. >> commissioner hardeman: thank you gentlemen for your report and thanks for the graphics. we're talking about free time to other agencies, fire departments use to lease or whatever kind of arrangement for this new training facility. as it stands now with increased trainings and the way things are going in the society, how much free time is available at the

training facility particularly treasure island that is available to sublis sublease thw people to use who would have that curiosity more than anything. we should know what we're talking about. >> i would defer to the expect on that response. >> i don't have any information. >> good evening. the only available time we have for the outside agencies to come in will be in between recruit classes. it takes up the entire facility for the whole 20 weeks they are there. it would be depending upon what kind of hiring we're doing in the last few years, there's been little time to allow other people to use the facility, except on weekends. >> commissioner hardeman: the

way things are going. that might be changing too. we're getting more requirements from the fed and state. it's wait society is on training especially with first responders. that's pretty much what i thought. there's not a whole lot of available time to allow that. for us to use that as a bargaining chip might not be the best thing to do. i don't think we're obligated to do that. i know some of the higher ups in the city suggested that. we got to take a good look at that before we start saying, those people aren't voting on the bond. san francisco dollars will be used. i don't feel obligated to do anything. it will be nice if we can do it. that's really on your time. sorry to bother you. thank you chief. that was most important i was

thinking. san francisco as a former public utilities commissioner, largest property owner if sa san mateo s 23,000 achers. so we do have property outside the city. there's a lot of property sitting out there and used part of watershed. it's necessary there are other uses for that property. thank you. >> president nakajo: i have a few questions. thank you very much mr. higueras for your presentation. in terms of the esa bond scheduled for 2020. is that bond vnly carrying cost

of the training facility or are there other priorities on that easter bond? >> there are components in the esa 2020 bond program. $150 million, which you have knowledged here. $125 million for fire stations, $121 million for police facilities, $9 million for the 911 call centre renovation and $70 million for the seismic upgrade of select post disaster relief facilities. >> president nakajo: my arithmetic is not that great, somewhere around $370 million. >> i apologize. it's the auk water supply

$125 million. the total of that is $600 million. >> president nakajo: $600 millir march of 2020. when you talking about the awss are you talking about the systemwide awss that has been rejected? >> the awss is the historic system that was inaugurated in 1913. we're augmenting it. it's going under the acronym of eswss. $125 million is for that. >> president nakajo: that's the reference in terms the water system? >> the original system was dedicated or mostly found on the northeast side of san francisco 1913. has presence elsewhere in the city as a result of 1913.

we're seeking to do bring up the parity in regards to the access to fire fighting water system on the west side. it's a very important initiative or imperative of the bond coming up in 2020. >> president nakajo: just a point curiosity, $175 million for awss component. seem little low compared to -- [indiscernible] >> we can apply more funds to any one of those components. the trick is to stay within the level indebtedness which is allowed. >> president nakajo: thank you for that answer. that's what i was trying to find out was around that figure.

i'm also asking, perhaps even director might be part this. when does the preparation for the 2020 bond start? >> it has started effectively. we're on the track, trajectory now to complete the work associated with the march 2020 bond in may of this year. we have been requested to do so. it's actually earlier than it would otherwise need to be because it's been the request of us. it can be committed if it's the board's will as early as may or june this year. or at their discretion, they can postpone dedicated to the march 20 ballot. >> president nakajo: still projected for 2020 correct? >> that is true. march of 2020 as we stand here

today. >> president nakajo: was that essa bond projected originally for 2019? >> no, it was originally 2020. there was discussion it moving to november of 2019. it was didded to place it on the march 2020 ballot. next bond is scheduled in the capital plan is 2027. >> president nakajo: in terms of essa bond $600 million approximately is there competition on that bond or any other bonds running during that 2020 time frame? >> not that i'm aware of. i know priority of the mayor's office as well. i know no other particular bond slated for march. of '20. there are couple of other bonds coming around in the fall of

2020, i don't recall reprecisely what those bonds are. every opportunity we go to the voters to consider these infrastructure improvements. >> president nakajo: it seems very important for the public to understand and comprehend time line and, $600 million for the essa body bond. >> it will be our third bond. >> president nakajo: you had major program areas. are all those areas be encompassed in this training site? >> yes. you're referring to the maintenance shop building? >> president nakajo: you showed a slide that it major program

areas as well as core maintenance. i want to make sure that those areas that we have now presently are all in there. i don't want to assume that it's going to be part of it. my question directly is all of these areas going to be part of the new training facility? >> that is the plan. these are broad categories and there are other requirements res that not represented if the major program areas. these represent the bulk of the major categories. >> president nakajo: in terms of the chief, 2024 transition, how does that work? do we operate our training facility on t.i. until 2023 and we exit 2024? >> we try to utilize it as long

as we can until the new facility is up and running. we'll slowly move all the operations over there as we can. >> president nakajo: there was a description about all the usage that we had. commissioner hardeman made references to this as well. part of my question was again, 2024 approaches us, i assume there's a time frame where it add up top a certain point. that formula would change to one class per year? >> after this class it will be one per fiscal year. >> president nakajo: when you say after that class, it will be

like 127? >> 126 is slated for this fall. after that it will be one per year. >> president nakajo: do you have projection when you think that class will start? >> some day in september. >> president nakajo: with that training we'll have smooth transition into 2024? >> there's a long road to go.

there's a lot of circumstances and factors that will drive how we duck tail so we can complete the facility and move away from current facilities to the new one. as we get closer to the reality of construction he'll be able to more accurately, figure the sweet shot for how we transition. >> presiden tnakajo: okay. i hate to be in situation where we only have folsom as a training facility. we have a lot going on with a new e.m.s. building as well. there's a lot of transition. i appreciate very much mr. higueras you being here. commissioner cleaveland you have a question. >> commissioner cleaveland: one

final question. for years we've been talking about needing a space for our technique vehicle and museums, san francisco fire department museum. i'm wondering whether this might be an opportunity to also bring that facility together with our training facility to have part that training facility a museum and have our historic vehicles displayed. has there been any thought to that? i don't think it's a lot. it might be an opportunity that we could look into to see about combining our museum with the future training facility. i wanted to put that out there. we've been talking about a place for years where we can reside permanently our historic fire engines and apparatus. >> it will be at the outset. we have a project to see if it

fits. >> commissioner cleaveland: tha. >> presiden nakajo: thank you for your continued support. thank you very much. [agenda item read] >> president nakajo: good evening chief hayes-white.

please proceed. >> chief hayes-white: good evening and members of the fire commission. this is my report since our last meeting which was on marge march 13th. we continue to be in discussions with the mayor's budget office. you know all of have volunteered to assist with meeting with various members of the board of supervisors when the time is appropriate before the mayor submits her balanced budget on june 1st. we have new analyst, her name is christina da silva. related to academy, 125th class is in their ninth week. we have 49 members remaining in the class. three returned to station 49.

it is a bit of drop off more than some of the more recent classes. overall, the classes about mid way through the academy. we are planning to have a entry level class in the new part of the fiscal year july. the 126th class anticipated we'll take a look at the made up. 54 members some time in september. the list has been refreshed and was adopted on march 20th. that's for people who have taken the test through end of february this year. related to activities since the last meeting, many participated in the st. patrick's day parade on march 16th. the deputies and i attended a

labor management meeting on march 19th with president buford and members of the executive board. on the 20th, the mayor breed had department head meeting. also i want to make note on march 20th it was my assistant's last day. we a nice departure for her. she started her new job yesterday doing well. appreciates everyone's well wishes. on the 22nd, i was out of town. i appreciated assistant chief attending and representing the department.

today chief nicholson and i met with mayor breed. we'll do that through the month of april until my retirement to discuss transition and other projects we're working on. for this meeting, president nakajo for your, we had another firefighter pass away. firefighter bob terito. he passedaway on march 15th. many of us had pleasure working with bob. good guy. he was hired in 1977 and retired in 2005. consideration for adjournment in his memory will be appreciated. thank you.

>> when is the graduation date of current training academy which has 45 recruits in it? >> chief hayes-white: just 14th. scottish wright hall. >> neighboring presiden -- thanu president nakajo. this is pretty interesting time. we have our new chief who's in some ways acting along with our present chief. chef nicholson and achieve

hayes-white. this is women's month. pretty much there's three or four things every month for this. >> commissioner hardeman: they were making a big deal about her being the head of the department. i think there's no city in the country that has a significant population, we've been over 700,000 for 70 or 80 years. the city has two chiefs sitting in the room, two fire chiefs and they are both women. it's not just patting you on the back for your accomplishmentings

but it's palleting the cit -- pg the city on the back. it's pretty cool. it's really good to celebrate women's month in san francisco. very proud to be part of that. that's my comment. >> president nakajo: commission. no other questions from the commissioners. we'll have deputy chief nicholson please come up and give your report. >> good evening chief hayes-white, president nakajo and commissioners. jeanine nicholson. deputy chief. i'm going to parse out some of my report tonight to -- some of my direct reports. my assistant deputy chief as you know, we are in the middle of a

transition. i have been working on putting the take together and today, i announced the next deputy chief of operations and deputy chief of administration who will succeed chief gonzalez and myself. i like to thank chief gonzalez for all his tireless efforts over the last years as our cd2. [applause] today i announce that battalion chief victor wirsh will be our deputy chief of operation. i like to bring up division chief jose vello he will be take over my position pipelik pipelio

i like him to say hello. >> 25 years ago, i was in the academy. it's funny how things turn around. i'm humble and excited to work. i know it's a lot of work to be done. training facility is one of them. very excited and looking forward to working with all of you. thank you chief for your support. thank you. [applause] >> first i'm going to have

assistant deputy chief come up and give report on support services. >> good evening fire commission, chief hayes-white. i will give a quick overview of support services. in terms of facilities, fire station 5 is moving right along. we're looking at having construction completed next month in april and possibility of ribbon cutting ceremony shortly. we'll keep everybody updated. our ambulance deployment facility, construction has begun. the pilings are now being placed into the ground and the infrastructure starting to go in. lot of the underground waste lines, electrical and more items we don't see on everyday basis, lot of that trench is happening currently.

there's no impact to the firefighters other than all the loud noise. fire station 35, the new fire boat float is also d -- we're still in the permitting process. we did get approval for ceqa. we're trying to obtain the bcdc permit which we'll be meeting with their board on april 4th to do our presentation. we did receive six new fire engines. we have six more fire engines on order. we have five new trucks on order. we have 15 ambulances that have been ordered which we have received the first two and they are being outfitted to go into service. i have been involved in esa 2020 presentations throughout the

city as long as with s.f. p.t. and d.p.w. when the bureau of equipment responds, they go out and do a repair to keep our company in service without having to change over. that's actually quite a feat. the clothing depot fulfilled 151 request for clothing and safety equipment and support services which is my office fulfilled 159 request for facilities maintenance. that's about it. >> president nakajo: thank you very much chief. commissioners have a question, they'll call you back up. thank you. chief nicholson.

>> i like to call assistant deputy chief michael cochran up from homeland security to give you an overview. >> president nakajo: welcome chief cochran. >> good evening mr. president, commissioners, chief hayes-white, mike cochran homeland security. the report for homeland security for this month i will start with special event. i want to thank the chief. he works on lot these. first one of -- we manned this centre downstairs. st. patrick's day parade, we sent lot of units. no major incident. i want acknowledge lieutenant baxter, we worked multitude of agencies.

fleet week planning started it week with military. navy, marines and city agencies. special operations, i want to thank deputy chief gonzalez. we have radiation detectors going out to our units in the field in case there is an incident. homeland security, we're working witwith sfpd for active shooter.

with want our members to see those police officers so these incidents go smoother. during active shooter table top, we had a working fire. we also have our northern california regional intelligence centre liaison. we will work daily on alerts. disaster planning, the city is rewriting its response plan actively involved in that. we're again over radio failure procedures. we have new radios.

our grants are fire department operation centre completed. that's where we'll send requests for church street in the event of an earthquake. there were some minor language changes recommend. you should have that in front of you before next meeting. that's it for it month. >> president nakajo: thank you very much chief cochran. any questions by the commissioners? thank you very much chief. >> thank you chief cochran. assistant deputy chief soto from division of training. >> we are in mil middle of 125th

class week 9 they are continuing to produce videos for library of drills as for e.m.s. staff, we have the class graduate few weeks ago. they have six weeks to complete those. the e.m.s. was also in the military of our two-year cycle for recertifying all members if the e.m.t. we had 1200 members certified for c.p.r. this year. we have just handful left we'll try to finish this month.

we 85 members recertify annually for the hazmat certification. we have also completed bias class for all our training staff as well as the command staff. that would be about it. >> president nakajo: thank you very much. commissioners? >> last, i will ask director corso to come up and speak about our strategic plan. >> thank you chief. good evening commissioners. i plan to discuss brief update on the strategic plan. we've been through a transition period and we'll continue to do so over the next couple of months. conversations aring on going

about what current chief nicholson on the work of the plan and priority. i will want to give update some of the work that's done currently and completed and in process. as you may recall, the fire department strategic plan is between five sections covering operations, community preparedness and community programs and partnerships, health and wellness infrastructure and recruitment staffing and training. each section has a number of goals within them. within each goal are strategies for chie achieving those goals. first offs operations. we concentrated on improving overall delivery services. that's kind of an ongoing.