with a number of uses of firearm discharge and all relating to one incident and so with the statistics working together are complicated at times. so i had a thought and an idea to go through this thinking of commissioner elias and i often do and the wise questioning, we did the training before we were the experienced veterans that we are now. and for people that don't know, force options training is a simulator where you're showing on the screen situations where

you may have to use and different types of force and pepper spray, baton, and firearm and there is a scenario that plays out and i believe commissioner elias was blown up by a bomber. i always chose the right option according to a trainer. is there a simulation that is done to test for and concern and perhaps officers or some officers may have implicit bias against people of color, black and hispanic. is there a simulation that sets up scenarios like that where you're tested against different races? i think it would be. is it something we have used? >> there are. a lot of that type of that

simulation is done in research. stanford has done some and done in it research. we have been contacted by some of the institutions for that type of scenario and we don't have an agreement on that type of research yet, but it is out there, to answer your question. yes, it is out there and yeah. sometimes even with the tactical training where you have critical thinking scenario, it doesn't address implicit bias, but shoot, don't shoot with firearms qualifications and it does help somewhat to address that issue. the research is out there and that type of training is out there. i think it is an emerging area of law enforcement with good

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>> so those are things to tell the officers that you have to sort of look at the whole

picture. so those are things that you've done. i'm glad to see the numbers are down, but i do think we need some explanation, and i do know the officers work really hard on the street, they're very diligent about this, but i think with the advent of body worn cameras, it's a process. we have to be patient, but we're moving forward, i think that's the positive. >> i just want to make an observation. i've sat through about two years of these 96-a reports, and for the most part, they're pretty much the same. overall use is down, but the disparity in the racial numbers is the same. you've heard some really excellent numbers from commissioners here. my belief is that the department has the exact same questions that we do, and that you don't honestly have the

capablity to answer commissioner elias' question. it's a pufundamental question, but it's the most important question. there are issues that go to quality of life.

every -- >> y >> we are training for folks that are receiving -- like, what is that training -- what does that training look like? >> i'm glad you asked that. working with d.e.m., there has been some conversations on how d.e.m. can address this issue. actually, i think it was maybe two months ago, the department and d.e.m. did a conversation on this topic for the human rights commission, and so moving forward, i think d.e.m. is planning to put some things in process. i mean, i couldn't tell you tonight as i sit here exactly what their training is, but to your point, i think it goes hand in hand with what they're trying to do, and director

carole is on board with that, and they'll move the ball forward. >> commissioner elias: i think it's important to note that the police department, specifically you have taken steps to address what happens when these calls come in and what the police officers can do to deescalate the sort of biased calls that do come in. >> thank you. that also was a part of the presentation that we cut out because that'll come to the commission soon enough. >> thank you, chief. and do you have >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> d.p.a. director henderson, we're ready for your report. >> i'll read it into the record. [agenda item read].

>> good evening. so i'm -- i'm just going to speak briefly. in terms of our numbers and our stats for this week, we are at 162 cases that are open versus 140 this time last year. in terms of cases closed, we're at 147 versus 124 this time last year. open pending cases, we're 297 versus 254. cases sustained, we have 25 cases this year sustained versus 25 cases sustained last year. the number of cases tolled beyond 270 days are 24. of the cases, 17 of those cases

are tolled last year. the 270-day is a trigger. the 3304 deadline is 364 days, but we report these numbers, and i report them just when we get past nine months, and they get special attention internally in my office, and people give weekly reports so we know and to avoid losing jurisdiction on any of our cases. for cases that are mediated, we are at five so far this year. we were at four last year. we've been involved in a couple of things that are ongoing with the d.p.a. right now. our contract has finally been approved with slalom for our case management system. we're excited. that is a big deal for us in terms of our productivity and efficiency. i think it's going to improve a lot of our efficiencies. we had a strategic planning session last week with the

consultant before they began reprioritizing some of the areas that we want them to focus on and work with us on both mediation and outreach were part of our big agendas. i think that's where we've seen a lot of the changes that are affecting our numbers in the past year and where i want to try and increase some of our efficiencies. we're still in our budget process with the mayor's office and city hall. there's not much for us to do until we hear back in that process, like the other departments. i will say in terms of outreach, we had a couple of events that we participated in. march 21, my staff attended central district station community meeting. the 26th of march, my staff attended the tenderloin station community meeting. on the 27, my staff

participated in the university of san francisco government policy career fair that they had, and speaking. our policy director attended on monday night with chief scott the discussion of addressing bias at the jewish community center. that was a big event specifically with dr. everhart out of stanford. her book is amazing, speaks to a lot of issues that we've been discussing tonight. i'm excited that the chief and director were on the panel with her, and there may be an opportunity with that and with her to address a lot of the things that -- i mean, i know she's available, available, meaning, you pay her, and she will -- she'll work with us, but i think she brings a lot of credibility to the discussion

of bias and it's encouraging, so this department here in san francisco not only is communicating with her and presenting, but has the potential to institutionalize something with her on some of these complicated issues that we're dealing with on the police commission. here in the audience with me tonight is my chief of staff, sarah hawkins, and one of my senior investigators, christina campani in case issues come up that need responses from the department of police accountability. >> president hirsch: thank you. any questions for the director? okay. next item. >> clerk: line item 2-c. commissioner items and reports. commission items will be limited to a brief discussion of announcements. commission items, commission president's report, and commission's report.

>> president hirsch: i'll just report that i've been working with hilton hines and the department to arrange with a may 1 meeting where we're going to have a presentation at the police commission which really goes to the work that's been done to date particularly by hilliard hines and the department working through the recommendations by the department of justice for the san francisco police department. i expect that to be between an hour and two-hour presentation with question-and-answer. any -- commissioners -- yes, commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: yes. thank you to the chief for bringing up the homicide in district ten this weekend. saturday, april 6, there's a public safety town hall meeting that will be taking place at willie brown middle school from 10:00 a.m. to noon. you'll be able to hear from

supervisor walton and just what the overall safety plan is in district ten. actually after that from 12:00 until 4:00, there's a war against guns march taking place starting at the bayview district opera house. >> president hirsch: yes, commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner dejesus: we went on this cesar chavez march and made our presence known. >> president hirsch: okay. next item. [agenda item read]. >> president hirsch: anything from the commissioners? yes, commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner dejesus: so i think i talked with commissioner hamasaki, yes, and -- i was talking to jennifer fredenbach regarding

the presentation on the hsoc -- >> healthy streets -- >> commissioner dejesus: yeah, healthy streets operations, and they'd like to do a similar presentation. they do have a presentation from u.c. berkeley researchers that they did provide to the board of supervisors, and so i was wondering if we could schedule a presentation here. >> president hirsch: okay. do we have a sense of how long it is and how many people are involved? >> commissioner dejesus: i do not have that information. >> no. we can probably deal with that offline. >> president hirsch: okay. commissioner elias? >> commissioner elias: yes. i was going to ask to schedule a 1421 update. i believe that we've get -- i think it just needs to come before the commission. there was one area of discrepancy, but i wanted to calendar it so we could figure out a date and perhaps get some

of the people that worked on the lemgs lation for 1421 to come to the meeting and answer any questions that the commissioners may have. so i just wanted to get an idea of when we could schedule that. >> president hirsch: has the working group finished whatever the working group can do on that? >> commissioner elias: yes. we have one area that is -- not an area of dispute, but one section -- there's a difference in language, so the thought is that we bring it to the commission and the commission decides which language to use. >> president hirsch: all right. and is that ready to happen asap? >> commissioner elias: i was thinking about the next commission, but i don't know if i can get someone in here to present in terms of legislative intent on 1421, so maybe the 17 of april? >> president hirsch: i think we can't do it on the 17. that's the meeting on the

bayview, but that gives everyone time. if i could look at may 8. >> president hirsch: thank you. okay. next line item. >> clerk: at this time, we're going to call for public comment on items 2-a through 2-d. >> president hirsch: all right. we have a long closed agenda, and we have a long agenda so far, so i'm going to limit public comment to two minutes, and this is on the items that we've discussed so far.

good evening. >> good evening. good evening, commissioners. jeremy miller. interstellar foundation. it's a big agenda tonight. i've been listening from another room. it's unfortunate, but i have to attend another meeting that's going concurrent to this. i thought i'd stop in, though, because i do want to acknowledge that there have been internal administrative structural attempts to discuss disparities which tip most of the discussion tonight in the police reports. but i want to address two very important incident consistencies. one, as usual, the concept of stakeholder was brought up. when was the last time any of these stakeholders were shot by the san francisco police, beaten by the san francisco

police? the fact of the matter is as a member of the rapidly declining less than 4% of san francisco that is a black man, who is disproportionately targeted by police activities, i have a valid interest as do all my brethren, as to all other people of the city and county of san francisco regardless of race, sexual orientation, etc., in the matter, despite not necessarily being considered a stakeholder, so we can get rid of the stakeholder. second off, the healthy streets center and processes that are targeting homeless people represented a violation of human rights. this was pointed out and stipulated in september 2018, and i want to highlight the report of the special

repertoire, specifically pushing for the right for human beings to live where they are without being molested -- >> president hirsch: thank you. any other public comment on the items we've addressed so far? good evening. >> i'm sorry. the explicit bias about the police shootings of people of color, and i was bringing up -- i wanted to bring up, one neighbor, he was talking about counting blacks and whites and hispanics, but hispanics are considered, and when you count them, you consider them as white. and they was talking about ten to 20 hours of training. most of the police officers that are out there, they're counselors themselves, so when

they come to people, they're trying to solve the problem. and then, i'm thinking that the shootings and why they're targeting people of color because they're having counter transference themselves. they're not therapists, but then, they have the unconscious counter transference that they're having themselves outside of their control. so i'm thinking that some of this is contributing to the killing of people of color. so -- and that's what i wanted to say. so when they do the training, think about those things that i just said about the counter transference and even though they're not therapists, the counter transference and the transference and the unconscious bias, also. so that'll be it. >> president hirsch: thank you.

any other public comment? good evening. >> hello. i was curious about the choice for academic institutions to work with. how do you decide what academic institutions you're going to work with in order to do research? are the academics reflective of a broad demographic, african americans, latino, etc. or are the demographics white men? there's just a lot of questions i have regarding that, and maybe you all could address that at a later meeting? >> president hirsch: actually, chief, can you answer that just right now how we pick the institutions we pick? >> so part of the decision is the level of expertise with the subject at-hand. for instance, the center for policing equities, before we

partnered with them, we did our own research, and they worked with a number of like-sized cities across the country on this issue, and they actually have started a national database with the information that they're collecting. it's aanonymous, and basically on a national scale, it'll help to answer some of these questions on a national scale, as well. so we figured -- or we believe that they had the expertise, really, to accomplish what we needed in that regard. california policy labs, likewise, same things. a number of meets with them, and in terms of the work that we wanted to get done at that time, we felt that they had the expertise to do it. stanford, although we just started this agreement with stanford, a lot of research that we're talking about came

from their spark program. that's what drives the decision. also, the expertise, who they have working for them. i think we saw with one of the academics, when people moved on, we discussed it in the commission recently. people left, moved on, and quit and really delayed the process. we look at a number of factors, and most of these institutions have diversity in thought, diversity in opinion, diversity in gender and all of those issues, to answer that question. but really, it's about what do they offer the department, and if there is a contractual, we have to go through that process. if there's an r.f.p. that's required by our contractual rules and policies, then that's something, as well. but a lot of these academic researchers, it's about finding the right institution and then getting with the attorneys to establish the data sharing agreements, and what's

important to us is how is the data going to be used? who owns the research? you know, in some regards, data has to be identified. the academic institutions that are willing to meet our needs and our demands, and they have the expertise that we demand, that's how we decide. the doctor has a team of very talented people in our opinion that work alongside her, so it's definitely a -- we're very fortunate to have them in our back yard. >> president hirsch: okay. any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. next line item, please. [agenda item read].

>> good evening. >> good evening president hirsch, vice president taylor, members of the commission, chief scott, and director henderson. good evening. my name's bob moser. i'm deputy chief of administration. and i'm here to present the first of two bulletins that call for modification to the uniform and equipment. the first is a pride patch of homeless youth in san francisco. the pride patch project is similar to the pink patch project that we did a number of months ago to support breast cancer. for the pride patch project, the department is partnering with the s.f. police officer's pride alliance, and the pride alliance has developed a patch for officers and members of the department to wear during the month of june to show support and the inclusiveness of the

sfpd to the lgbtq communities. with me tonight are several members of pride alliance in the audience, and i would like to call up the president of pride alliance, sergeant nick buckley, and the treasurer, who are going to tell you a little bit more about the project, talk about the charitiable piece and actually show you the patches themselves. >> president hirsch: thank you. good evening to both of you. >> good evening. thank you very much for listening to us. i'm going to pass it over to michael. he's the one that put this together. >> good evening, president hirsch, esteemed members of the police commission, chief scott, and director henderson. i'm the chairman of the san francisco lgbtq committee.

with me is nick buckley, sergeant of the san francisco police officer's pride alliance. this evening, i would like to discuss with you the proposal of what we are deeming the pride patch project and to show you all the many benefits this project will have within our community. through this project we as a department will not only be increasing awareness and incluesivity within the lgbt community but within the department. we hope that our efforts in wearing the pride patches during the month of june each year will encourage positive conversations with the communities about the purpose behind the patch and encourage other agencies throughout the nation to follow suit and partner with their own local charities that have exponential positive impacts within the lgbtq community. with our development of the pride patch project, we will be working with a local 501-c-3

organization, the larkin street youth services. during the month of june, we hope that officers, should they choose to do so, be permitted to wear patches on their uniforms or buy them as keep sakes. through this, we can strike up many positive conversations about provide services to homeless youth. all of the proceeds of this project will be donated to the larkin street youth services so that they may continue their valiant mission of changing the lives of thousands of homeless youth throughout the city. what prompted this is let me

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why haven't you done this sooner? so i also have known people who have battled with homelessness as a youth, and they found programs like the larkin street youth services, and they attribute their services to their success in leaving homelessness and finding stability in their health, employment and housing situations. the lgbtq communities in san francisco is one of the largest and most prominent lgbtq communities in the entire world. the san francisco police department is the 14th largest police department in the nation, and we have a duty to reduce the number of lgbtq youth sleeping on the streets each night. june is lgbtq pride month, with a celebration of how far this movement has come around the

world. san francisco police department are dedicated to excellence in law enforcement and to treatment of people of diversities and ethnicities around the city. i ask for your favorable declaration of approval in our request. for you, i have a copy of the patch, so go on here as well as a mock up shirt of what it would look like when it goes on everyone's uniform. >> may i congratulate you for your -- your creativity and your willingness to move forward on issues like this. this is great. are we being asked for an action here? we have to take action in order to modify -- >> clerk: we need a motion and a second, correct. >> i'll make a motion. >> i second. >> president hirsch: all right. any comment from commissioners on the motion?

>> commissioner dejesus: i -- i'm sorry. >> president hirsch: commissioner mazzucco? >> commissioner mazzucco: thank you. you're right, you are a third generation with your dad serving at mission station. your grandfather was my dad's partner. i'm proud of you, i'm proud of the strength you brought forward as you entered this department. you're a brilliant young man and you represent this department well. i want to thank you and all the members of the pride alliance and this is something that we can really be proud of. thank you. >> thank you. >> president hirsch: and commissioner dejesus. >> commissioner dejesus: and i agree with the previous statements. it's a positive thing for the lgbtq community and i just want to say thank you for the pride alliance to come up with this, and i'm looking forward to supporting this motion. >> thank you, commissioner. >> president hirsch: vice president taylor? >> vice president taylor:

yeah. i want to thank you, as well. no one can say pride patch project three times fast, but it's a fantastic project, and thank you for your work. >> president hirsch: director henderson? >> yeah. it's about time. i was surprised when you were talking that we haven't seen this already, but my question was a practical one. how much is the patch? >> $10. >> did i miss that part? did he say that already? >> we are going to be selling the patches for $20 a set. >> well, make sure you hit up all the commissioners. commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: yeah, i want to go along with all of my commissioners. i'm glad to see we're working

with larkin, and i think it also shows this department's wherewithal understanding that homelessness is a big issue here in the city, but we're going to focus on this young people to make sure they do have housing, so they can get off the streets and when they grow up, they have this interaction with the police and make it that much stronger. >> president hirsch: commissioner ham -- hamasaki? >> commissioner hamasaki: yeah. i'm going to sound like a broken record. there's been some things over the last few years, actions by officers in the department. i think officers that wear these and show to the rest of the city, to the other members, to our visitors, that we are an inclusive environment, that we are a supportive environment, and this department supports

all members regardless of any background or orientation is really important. i think it's important not just for the department to see, but for young people that you're describing might have negative pressures of law enforcement based upon what they see in the media. i think actions like this are not just symbolic, but they can help change how people feel about the department, so i think it's overall an excellent plan, and i look forward to seeing officers wearing these on the street. >> thank you, commissioner. >> president hirsch: thank you. i think we now need public comment on this before we vote, correct? >> clerk: correct, commissioner. >> president hirsch: okay. i'm getting good at this. okay. we're asking for public comment on this motion only. any public comment? seeing none, it's closed. can we have the vote, please. >> clerk: on the motion presented by commissioner elias and seconded by commissioner

mazzucco, all in favor of passing the pride patch project motion? any opposed? the motion passes unanimously. >> president hirsch: okay. thank you. thank you, all. yes, sir? i think we need to make $20

donations. >> president hirsch: thank you very much. >> commissioner elias: thank you. >> commissioner dejesus: thank you. >> president hirsch: okay, chief, i think you have another item. >> clerk: we'll move onto line item four. [agenda item read]. >> good evening. the department is excited to announce the issuance of much needed and highly anticipated piece of safety equipment, the ballistic helmet. the ballistic helmet is basically a replacement of our riot helmet. we've had the same helmet that we've issued officers as

protective head wear for approximately 30-plus years now. the ballistic helmet changes that piece of safety equipment with one important aspect, and that is it now will have ballistic capablities to protect an officer from gunfire. it changes or slightly amends three separate department general orders. it's department general order 10.01, 10.02, and 10.03. specifically for 10.01, it would simply alter the uniform for a class d, which is basically like a tactical crowd control type of a uniform. that particular general order identifies the helmet that's issues as a riot helmet. this would be a ballistic he

helmet which would be taking the place of that. 10.02, the change for this general order would be the department bulletin calls for officers that are assigned to uniform sector patrol to have their helmets readily available with them and then all other officers to have their helmets available as is practical. and then, finally for department general 10.03, the change would be in regards to helmet identification. 10.03 talks about numbering of officer's star numbers on the side of the helmets to be readily identifiable, and it specifically calls for gold numbers on the side of the helmets. our helmets and what we've requested in the department general order would be silver for officers and sergeants and

gold for commissioned officers, and the purpose for this is to have commissioned officers more readily available in either crowd control situations or critical incidents that you can look at the helmets and readily identify who's a lieutenant or captain or member of the command staff as opposed to officers or sergeants. and with that, questions? >> president hirsch: the only question i have is assuming we approve this, do the general orders actually then get amended in your office and do we see the amendment? how does the mechanic of that work? >> so the amendment would be via the department bulletin, and then, eventually, the department general orders would be amended as they would come up through the process to amend all the general orders. >> president hirsch: all right. i just want to make sure we don't lose track of that because some of these general orders may not come up for three years. >> and commissioner, they get

reissued. if that general order is like in year three or four, this bulletin would get reissued down the line until that order gets amended. >> president hirsch: okay. may i have a motion to amend those three orders? >> motion. >> second. >> president hirsch: okay. questions from commissioners? okay. we need public comment. is there any public comment on this motion? seeing none, public comment is closed. we are ready for a vote. >> clerk: for the vote, all in favor? any opposed? the ayes pass, 7-0. >> president hirsch: okay. thank you. thank you. >> clerk: line item five, general public comment. [agenda item read].

>> president hirsch: thank you. any general public comment? >> just wanted to end the day and talk about my son, as i do every wednesday when i come here, and i'd like to use the overhead. and my son, aubrey aberkasen,

who was murdered august 6. they just had a meeting yesterday with the mothers -- with some mothers about unsolved homicides. our homicides are still not solved. seemed like we were creating the table, creating the same thing over and over again, talking about our lost loved ones and still no justice, still no solved homicide for our children. we're just coming to meetings and another meeting for bringing up these feelings when something should be done. there's nothing being done not fast enough. i keep bringing these names of the persons that shot my son, and one of them's deceased. i also want to put here, i bring this because i want to

read it, my son's birth. it says, my son. i close my eyes for but a moment, and suddenly, a man stood where a boy used to be. i may not carry you in my arms anymore but i will always carry you in my heart. you are -- you have given me so many reasons to be proud of you, to be proud of the man you've become. but the proudest moment for me is telling others that you are my son. love, mom, and happy birthday. this is his birthday card, when he was alive or he isn't. >> president hirsch: thank you. again, the tip line is 415-575-4444. any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is

closed. we're ready for the next item. >> clerk: line six, public comment on all matters pertaining to eight below, closed session including public comment on closed session. public comment on closed session. >> president hirsch: any public comment on closed session? i see none. >> clerk: item seven, closed session. >> so moved. >> >> clerk: on-line item seven, all in favor? any opposed? the motion passes 7-0. >> president hirsch: okay. and thank you all. we're going into closed session.