>> we will call this meeting to order. hello, and welcome to the tuesday, april 2nd, 2019 commission meeting at the san francisco entertainment commission. i am the commission president. if you are a member of the public and you would like to speak, there is speaker forms you can fill out that are located at the front table and you can hand them to staff or come to the microphone when it is time to speak during public comment. we ask everyone turns off their cell phones or put some on silent, including commissioners and staff. we want to thank san francisco government t.v. and media services for sharing this meeting with the public and we will start with a roll call. [roll call]

>> we have an excused absence from commissioner perez. >> fantastic. the first order of business is public comment. this is for public comments that are -- on items that are not listed on the agenda tonight. do we see any public comment on any items not listed on the agenda tonight? please step to the microphone, you have two minutes to speak. please state your name first. grabbed the microphone, thank you. >> my name is michael, and i'm the chair of the fillmore residents voices committee. we found it necessary to address ongoing issues for the commercial parcel at 1330 fillmore.

aside from this typical concerns of crowd control and noise complaints, and crowd disbursement upon closing, the reason we are here is because there have been numerous meetings public and private regarding the sale and use of the commercial parcel from which we have been excluded or our point of view has been minimized we are here to correct that and obtain a voice in the process. the format -- homeowners of the fillmore heritage centre are tied to the commercial parcel, fiscally in that we share corridors and adjoining walls, and financially because we share the common areas, and because emotionally, what happens at this parcel has a significant impact on our will be -- well-being. i'm sure members are not surprised that we're here to stand up and make our voices heard in the wake of a brutal killing that happened march 23 rd just steps from our front door. that shooting death of innocent bystanders have made us question

concerns for our safety and has galvanized as to wake up as community harold or his -- stakeholders. is long-standing number members of the neighbourhood, we are aware of its history and respectful of the significance of that history, but by no means are we opposed to community benefit. some of us invested in the community benefit -- okay. two minutes goes by fast. most importantly, we and the city are legally bound as real estate entities by the reciprocal easement agreement as crated by the california department of real estate, and therefore it is -- we write that we should have an equal disposition of the commercial parcel. >> your time is up.

>> thank you, thank you very much. all right, do we have other public comments for items that are not on tonight's agenda? seeing then, the general public comment is closed. moving into the regular agenda. next item is to move -- to approve the meeting minutes. these are from march 5th, 2019 , and we are looking for a motion to approve the minutes from march 5th, 2019. >> i moved to approve it. >> second. >> wait, we do need to have public comment on this. is there any public comment on the minutes from march 5th, 2019? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> mr. thomas? [roll call]

>> the minutes are approved. the next item on the agenda is the report from our executive director. >> thank you. good evening, commissioners. i wanted to begin my director's report with a legislative and policy update. we have been tracking the board of supervisors file number 181 211. this is regarding a small business streamlining that we have been managing from the office of economic and workforce development. that was brought to land-use yesterday. there's actually why he was not able to present to you all at the beginning of the summit. unfortunately it was continued to the court -- call of the chair, so we're not exactly sure when it will be continued, but hopefully it will be heard in

the next couple of weeks. so no substantive update on that just yet. so i wanted to move into an office update. we are going to be saying goodbye to our senior inspector, sean burke, this is his last entertainment commission meeting , and we are super lucky to have had him with us for five whole years, and we will miss him a lot. and the president has a couple words to say on that. >> i do. so sean burke, you have been with us for five years now, and i think the general public believes that the job that you have almost personally created the parameters around, i think a lot of people believe it is a science that you go out, you check numbers, and you report on

those numbers, et cetera, but i don't think that's true, i think it is an art. i thank you have really become somebody who has taken that and made into truly an art form, and for me, you can tell that you have done an incredible job by both your effectiveness in dealing with p.o.e. that are not behaving or not acting as their good neighbour policy does, but also that the p.o.e. themselves have a really good rapport with you and you have built that, and i think that people don't really realize how difficult walking that fine line is, and being fair with the p.o.e. and having them respect you and trust you, and also being able to confront and handle the serious problem that the communities need to deal with. this is a relatively new commission. we have only been around for 15

years. i think voice inside of it kind of came after a lot of the initial stuff was done, and i think a lot of what we have today is due to the efforts that you have done, and i think it may seem like a small thing, but the work that you did on the good neighbor policy specifically, because it really is -- people see it as a bill of rights -- the entertainment venues see that, and the neighbors really see that as these are my rights that i have, and i thank you recognize that before any of us did, and we were able to hone it to a way that we have something that we can use going forward that's incredibly effective. i want to thank you on behalf of everybody here. i thank you have done an incredible job, and i thank you have left a real legacy in the city of san francisco, and it may seem small, but it is not small to me. thank you very much, and we really appreciate it.

we do have a proclamation here. did i miss something? >> no, no. >> everyone is looking at me like i missed something. i do have a proclamation here, and it is sean burke day. [cheers and applause] we will give a standing ovation. [applause] >> do i stand, too? >> i wish it said sean berg here day. that would be a lot better. on behalf of everyone, this is your part -- proclamation. >> i thank you get to write munimobile for free for a day, but don't hold me to that, those inspectors are pretty tough. >> i will fold it up and put it into my wallet. thank you very much for the kind waves. it has fanned onorato flashy. i have learned a lot from you -- i have learned a lot from you. this is an awesome last week. my last hearing and yesterday, i couldn't be prouder of the work i've done, and i'm going to miss

everybody. thanks. >> thank you. >> thank you, sean. i will note that he came into my office an hour before this hearing and pointed at the proclamation hang on my wall and he said, do i get one of these. [laughter] i said yes, you do. [laughter]. >> was he crying? >> no. moving on, i wanted to give an update on our summit yesterday. it was our tenth annual. all of you were there, thank you i thought it was fantastic. we had a great turnout, it was at mezzanine. i would say at least 200, maybe 250 people showed up. we had surveys that we gave out, maybe 30 were filled out, but all of them were just glowing remarks about the entertainment commission, and everyone said

they learned something and they can't wait for next year. a lot of people that are -- had their first time ever going, and so i'm excited to continue that work, and i think starting tomorrow we will start talking about what we are planning for next year so we can make it better each time around. just jumping jumping in to some of our corrective actions, i do believe i forwarded this to you just prior to our hearing, but i issued a directory's order, and a suspension for public safety for the rock because there were incidents two weekends in a row there on march 3rd and march 9 th, so that was quite some time ago at this point, but we had to cancel our march 19th hearing, it was not able to update you then. the director's order required compliance with their revised security plan this past thursday , march 28th.

we sent an inspector in the field to make sure they were in compliance with their added security conditions and they were. we were confident that they will continue their work and get better from here with their revised security plan. do you have any questions on any of those items? >> just a quick comment, i wanted to applaud the executive director and the staff from yesterday. i thought it was -- hopefully jocelyn is not listening, but i think yesterday's was the best you have ever put together. if she is, i will explain later. [laughter]. >> she is a retired executive director, for those of you who don't know. >> just to echo that, this was easily the best summit that i to both in terms of the content, the audience, the attendees, we got a diverse group of folks in the doors and it reflects well on the staff of the commission,

all of you, in terms of putting it together. your personalities and interests were apparent in all of it, and it was a really good summit and a good representation of what it is that we do here at the commission. thank you, all. >> thank you. >> i have one thing. i think when i first started, it was all about everybody watching each other. what do we do for calls for service, and the breakout sections were about that, and now we are all about education, and we have learned a lot more on this summit, and before everybody was learning how to protect themselves, and it shows how much the commission has evolved already, and that we are in different times. i was just telling the president that i've learned more on this one than any of the other ones i have been to. congratulations. >> thank you. >> i want to also add to the

kudos. thank you also to mezzanine for hosting that. i know there were a couple of donations from events locker. thanks to them. i'm sure we will do more showering of praise for sean at the end of the meeting, but i do want to say that i remember when your predecessor was here and we thought he was fantastic, and there was such big shoes to fill , and i thank you really phillips them. i thank you stretch them out and made them even bigger, and i just noticed how much people respect you, and i thank you have a pretty thankless job, you know, you are kind of this quasi- police officer, because i -- total enforcer that doesn't really fit all of the people that who went -- when we think about city governments. thank you for all you have done,

and thank you for working with us every time we tell you, hey, can you write a report differently, or tell us stories differently, or provide more information. you have always risen to the occasion to do that. thank you, very much, and i'm looking forward to seeing all the great things you will do in the twin cities, and hopefully he will come back. >> i did have a couple comments. first of all, around the summits i think the director and myself and the giant with the beard, ben van helton, the three of us went to philadelphia this year and we went for a government nightlife summit, and i think all three of us learned a little bit there, and it was really a rewarding experience, especially the networking side, but we also learned the do his and don'ts of having quality unsubstantiated

conversations, and i think when the director sent her teeth into that, she made a very, very quality and substantive summit yesterday, and i want to also say that the feedback that i got was universally positive, which is that is the first time that has ever happened. usually i hear constructive criticism first, which is not my favourite thing. and the other thing i want to mention is i posted a picture of the mayor from yesterday on my facebook page from the summit, and one of my friends, i hope he is watching right now, he wrote, isn't it ironic that the mayor is speaking at a place that is being threatened to be shut down by ten offices. isn't that ironic, and my response was, this was not ironic, this was very much done on purpose. this is exactly why we are here at mezzanine, and this is exactly why we are fighting. we are all in this together. i wanted to make that very clear

to my friend and everyone watching government t.v. today that we are in a war right now to make sure we preserve and protect nightlife and live music in san francisco. that is exactly what the summit and this commission is four. thank you to the director and the entire staff are putting that on. you guys did an incredible job. thank you very much. anymore comments? his now it is time for public comment on the executive director's report. does anyone have something to say about the executive director 's report? >> i just came down -- >> please speak into the microphone and state your name. >> my name is ace, i'm on the case right now in front of your face. i'm not sure where i am on the agenda, but i just want to do a tidbit and run about here. first of all, i was downstairs singing marvin gaye, because this is a tribute to him, his

80th birthday. we had some stamps made after him. [singing] [singing] >> anyway, thank you for your time and effort. i know it isn't on the agenda, but i am the fillmore according to our ambassador, not the bastard, and i want to know what went down with the issue of the heritage centre. i don't want to bore you with these things, but soon as the

wind blows and the whistles go down, i will be back to find out what is going on, and we will have the whole city hall, it all the departments that were involved come down to explain it. my name is ace, and i'm on the case. thank you. >> thank you very much. is there any more public comment? seen none, public comment is closed. we will move on to agenda item number 4, which is the a.a. report from our senior inspector, the last report from our senior inspector, sean burke. >> that will be -- it will be a tough night. thank you, good evening, commissioners. sean burke here, one last time for your listening pleasure. you will notice the transbay terminal is on this new complaints list. we had a nice discussion in the office amongst staff and we

realized that maybe some additional scrutiny needs to come to these one time event permits, and really start to try and staff field inspectors during a sound checks, have additional conversations prior to issuing these permits, and maybe trying to out some conditions, maybe some standard for larger events. that's a conversation that i will evolve as time moves forward, but i think it's important as we move forward to some of these bigger things, to try to make sure we are keeping in mind the code, and maybe some of the issues that the code has in addressing these one-off events. you will notice -- if there's three smaller venues on the new complaints list.

were not sure where the complaint -- what establishment generated the complaint, but on friday, march 18th -- march 8 th, 19th and mission was the address listed. it was either beauty bar or another. the parkside is on that list, vendors is on that list, and the chapel is not as small, but the chapel is also on the new complaints list. i think that -- i hope we can get to a point to where ben van helton's big man with the beard , at that that project that he put together, and trying to get grants together, can come back around. we have already had is when you reach out and ask about that, and unfortunately we had to say no one step forward -- stepped forward to give grant money, but i hope that continues.

there were quite a few inspections. i tried to remove any that were very routine, either just the guys driving by, and that included a couple of good neighbor policy drop-offs just to let you know that we are continuing to do that, and just about every time we make a visit to a venue, we are dropping off the good neighbor policy along with the visit. one notice of violation to the hotel it via rooftop, this was very soon after we approved charles salter's operating minutes, and the head of sound for hotel via did not bring a meter to keep track of their limit on the roof. we issued them and n.o.v., and then we have had an ongoing complaint. we are not sure, and it doesn't seem the complainant is confident about either emporium

or independence of that investigation is ongoing. the inspector has stopped by on multiple occasions on divisive darrell. he has has found emporium out of compliance, and we are now -- two things are happening, the next step at the independent is to assign a limit for them, and then to follow up with emporium after some sound abatement has been completed to provide them with an updated sound limit. brick and mortar was on our list for a little while. they haven't had a complaint since the last hearing. we did receive a complaint from jones addressed it in realtime, it did not find them to be hosting entertainment. they were found in compliance by the inspector. all the other site visits i believe were pretty routine. we had a one-time event at the irish bank. this is another thing like what was on the front page for the

transbay terminal. another one time events. this one has been going on for quite some time and we don't generally get complaints, but the neighborhood has changed. one building has been raised, and another has yet to go up, so we got our first complaint about the irish bank as far as the time i've been at the entertainment commission. it's another one where i think it would be important for us to go out whenever we can during a soundtrack and try to set some levels and work with the nearby businesses, and in this case, there was a hotel that was a complainant, and just really, when staffing is available, try to be more on top of getting inspectors out there, and getting lay of the land as far as putting some more customized sound limits on some of these annual events, try to learn

from years past. i think that's all the highlights that i wanted to go over, and i'm sure, i hope you will have some questions for me because i don't want to stop talking, this is my last -- this is life, we're are on the internet. [laughter] >> sean, i never knew you were this funny. watching you yesterday, i saw a different side of you. >> my mom is watching right now [laughter] know she's not, she doesn't have the internet. [laughter]. >> if i could just say a couple of quick things. >> police. >> i do not have no questions for you today, sean, but i wanted to acknowledge, and this is coming from the law enforcement side, he did have some big shoes to fill. the person you replace, on many levels, was incredible he competent and took the past to hand, and he wanted to acknowledge that you did take it to another level. i thank you did an incredible jog working with our department

, working with our members, and i recognize that can be challenging at times, given that you're trying to commingle swing members with civilians, but i thank you did an exceptional job, and i think the san francisco police department will definitely miss you, and as i said to you yesterday, know that you still have friends in the sfpd if we can ever help you out. >> thank you, lieutenant. >> any other questions? >> we are going to go easy on you today. >> i did have a couple comments and questions. it seems like a lot of these, and i love your opinion on this , but a lot of these complaints are indicative of the nice weather that we have have all of a sudden had, it seems like a lot of them came in mid day on sunday, saturday and sunday of the 39 and 310 of people having events from outside. in your experience, our people

buttoned up for a while and they come out and there are a lot of complaints. >> i have noticed that trend for sure over the time i have been around. i think operators, especially, a security guards and managers, are all just really excited to pop the windows and pop the doors and get people coming in doing some barhopping on a sunday. i was out, off duty, driving around the city a few sundays ago, and you could feel it in the city. it was fun. [laughter] >> all right, and the other question, it seems like there's a couple more complaints about jones here, and i just want to confirm. so it does seem like there's a complaint on the 15th, friday the 15th, people were unhappy with how loud it is, but they're not actually hosting live music or live entertainment.

>> yeah, i received the picture from that complainant, i have no doubt that -- i don't know for sure, but i have no doubt that he is being disturbed. we haven't found jones out of compliance because we haven't found them to be hosting entertainment after their cutoff time. i think the challenge at jones is even if they have music playing within the confines of the conditions on their permit, the way the structure of the building is utilized, the sound leak is inevitable, so i'm not sure if you've been up there, but they've got a giant door, wall structure that sort of stays open. they really can't close it, so

it is a challenge, and i think it's going to take another visit by inspectors, i think it will take a different sound limit, i think it will take some work with the neighbors, and it may take some outside the box thinking to condition this in a way that is a lot different than we have condition some of the other rooftops. usually what we're doing is we are saying, okay, there's another giant apartment building, 350 feet away from this rooftop, this other rooftops, it is an entertainment space, list limits the time with an l.l.p., but in this case, it is a rooftop below an apartment building, which we don't see, so i'm not sure the solution, but i'm sure it will be -- it will have to be customized and it will take some neighbors and operators and maybe the apartment management and asked to do some creative solutions.

>> got it, okay. any other questions? >> i think we are planning on bringing them may seventh. >> thanks. >> you read my mind. >> i know. [laughter] >> all right. that was it, the last last time this is really said, i'm surprised you not crying. >> do you want to say something to your mom? [laughter]. >> hi, mom, love you, hi celia, i'm not sure if you understand english yet but leg port-mac, and i love you, mary claire, i hope it is not called all the time in minnesota. [laughter]. >> you hope, it is. [laughter]. >> with that, we will open for public comment on schaumburg's presentation. is there any public comment, please do state your name. you have two minutes. thank you. >> good evening. i am the president of the women

's auxiliary for the american legion across the street and i am also a part of the fillmore heritage volunteer organization with the 100 black organization. it is unfortunate the situation that is happening there and i think we can all come together to find a resolution. outside of that, i am not on the agenda, but i did want to introduce a potential solution to the noise pollution. working with all companies that specializes in air hash, and we would like to introduce some ideas about the science of silence and how that can be incorporated in the noise pollution situation with the city, and i would like to figure out how we would be able to get onto the agenda to share that with the community or speak with someone specifically i am not familiar with the processes, they have been to a number of these meetings. i was there at vallie brown's address at the fillmore, so i'm

getting familiar with the public policy, but i like to be more formal with this presentation. >> thank you, very much. there is no back and forth, but i would encourage you to reach out to the staff of the entertainment commission and the directors, and they can help you to hone your approach year. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> is there any more public comment on inspector berg's report? public comment is closed and we'll move onto the next agenda item. it is number 5, which is a report from east. >> evening, commissioners. i just wanted to give you a legislative update, first of all. the cannabis event permit ordinance asked the board of supervisors and then was just signed this past friday by the mayor. law, with the effective date is

april 20th, so what does this mean right now? this means that the s.f. office of cannabis still has to create their framework for a cannabis event permit application, and put it up online and have people start applying for it, and just a reminder, the pool of applicants will be limited during the pilot program. the criteria for being eligible for the pilot program that you have to have an event that has been previously held on a regular basis, the event has to have received a city issue -- city issued a permit in the past, and thirdly, the event must have had significant unregulated cannabis sales and consumption in prior years that would benefit from a new regulatory plan for the permit. so i will keep you guys updated

as soon this permit application becomes available. i am also keeping my constituents updated on facebook and e-mail, and i'm advising people to also sign up for the office of cannabis' e-mail blast, which will be -- they will be able to hear about that really soon from the blast so those are the biggest updates i have for that and that peace, and then the panel, i think most of you probably heard yesterday, which was focused on how to produce a safe and successful cannabis event, i was very pleased with the expertise of the panelists and to the topic and the content, and i want to take this moment to do some highlights from the panel yesterday. so the whole objective was now

that cannabis is a viable and new way to increase revenue stream, and a new way to enhance your event, how can in the event producer produce safe and successful event, what are the legal pathways, what are the business models that can help them get there? so we had a mix of regulators and event producers, you know, we had also policymakers, we had tom soprano from supervisor mandel ' office, it was a power panel, i was really impressed with it. the takeaways where, you know, obviously we are still waiting to hear when this new permit will become available at the city level, in terms of best practices for, you know, different areas of best practices, i have some notes here. if you are trying to mitigate these challenges with some

smoke, secondhand smoke, or having visibility of the cannabis activity have been away from the eyes of the general public, potentially that could be under aged people , peter houston from the panel had a nice way of breaking it down but i thought was really helpful to think about when you think about considerations. there are site specific an audience specific considerations. you could have three categories you have the indoor event that is completely contained where you can protect the eyes that don't want to see it or the notes that don't want to smell it, you have the outdoor event that is possibly like a general public event, like a street fairbury have to create an event within an event to show what this consumption area, and then you have these outdoor events like emerald cup where the audience wants to smell the smoke, like they are in with it , they do not want that protection, so that was really

helpful for me to explain how to get started in thinking about these models, and in terms of profitability, it is the point of an event sponsor who can't revenue share with the cannabis shipped -- sales, unlike alcohol. we'll have to figure out new ways through sponsorships and booth fees to create revenue streams for event sponsors, and they will have to tear their fees appropriately, and then entertainment, his energizing with cannabis the idea of how can you create a curated, unique activation area where the music enhances the cannabis experience and vice versa, and are you thinking about the kinds of products, like what's not easily available in terms of different kinds of strains of cannabis, and how argue

branding it as a unique differentiated experience? i thought it was a rich conversation, i saw a lot of people who were enjoying it, and i'm happy to see them participate. i wanted to give you guys more of a substantive feedback take away from that panel, and lastly, i just wanted to thank my colleague, sean burke, for welcoming me when i first started and showing me the ropes, and being such a wonderful thought partner, moral support, creative soul, and it means a lot to me to say that our paths got to cross, and i wish you and your family all the best, i know we will be seeing you when you will come back and visit us, right? right. [laughter]. >> yes. lots more to tell you before you go, just off the record.

[laughter]. >> comments? >> i had a very quick one. i wanted to really applaud the presentation that you moderated yesterday. you took marijuana to an academic level that i did not know existed. [laughter]. >> i learned a vocabulary that i did not know existed, and a very professional, and i think it really does speak to the viability and the reality of where this is heading, and i want to applaud you. frankly, joking aside, you took it very serious, as it should be, because this is an economic powerhouse. >> thank you very much. >> hi, dylan, i wanted to clarify. you said that you had three points of what types of events would qualify for this new cannabis event permit. the third one was significant history with unregulated marijuana. i'm just trying to understand what that means.

>> yeah, i actually don't know what that means in terms of evidence or proof, but that is what's written in the code. >> interesting. >> i really wonder, do they want photographs of people charges smoking up, or what. [laughter]. >> or as a police reports, i don't know, exactly. >> i think the point was a lot of the communities are really concerned about cannabis being infused into some event that has been a legacy event, so i think they purposely left. they left it purposely vague, but the idea was they were not trying to bring it to some random festival or culture. it was a festival that had a history of people. >> it is confusing, like you i wrote a rewarding people for behaviour, but the spirit is they want experienced operators

that's what i took away yesterday. as they issued these, it is a more likely chance of assuring a sex -- successful event, people who have navigated large crowds. >> that helps me understand a little bit more. i find it a little confusing. the other question i have, are we planning to update any of our forums to ask if events are one-time events are looking for cannabis as part of their event , and then to direct them that way? or is that being considered? >> i can speak to the event permit and guide. >> i think we should hold off on answering that because we might have a really great update to give you guys in the next month or so. >> okay. , great. >> definitely, we will turn in. >> i know you guys have been working with the cannabis office, so i would love for us not --

>> definitely. >> thank you. >> i have one comment, and i want to reiterate. i thank you guys have people who are good at often sent defence and people are also in the locker room, and i feel like the inspector has really been one of them, and that echoes that. i want to comment on that too. great job yesterday on the cannabis file. thank you. >> is there any public comment on the senior analyst and his presentation? seen none, public comment is closed. we will move to the next item which is police department questions and comments. we have a member here but it is not for this item exactly. the next agenda item is number 7, caring and possible action regarding applications with the permit of the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. we will begin with the consent

agenda. unless a member of the commissioner the public request to make comment, the consent agenda will not include time for discussion. the director, please introduce the agenda. >> thank you, good evening. so the first two permit applications on the agenda this evening are on consent because they're both accessory use permits. there was no opposition from the public and no condition added by the police department. if you have any questions, please let me know. >> i will move to approve the consent agenda. >> second. >> is there any public comment on the consent agenda item specifically? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> commissioner thomas... [roll call]

>> it is so moved. congratulations, consent agenda people. you permits have been approved. please follow up with the deputy director at your earliest convenience to find out what your next steps are. all right, next is number 8, which is discussion and possible action to adopt a written comments and recommendations to be submitted by the executive director of the planning department. am i correct here? we are moving on with the regular agenda here. deputy director, please bring us to the next item. sorry about that? >> are you planning to recuse yourself for the next -- >> yes, i had to -- i have to recuse myself. i did not know that we are they

are. i am now recusing myself. >> okay. [laughter]. >> great. [laughter]. [laughter]. >> thank you for the heads up. >> okay. take it away. >> ever first permit application on the regular agenda is for a limited live performance permit for standard deviant brewing. the applicant has obtained a couple of one time permits in the past to host live music and is excited to have a fixed place permit for the brewery. they plan to have final d.j.s, bluegrass shows, trivia, and comedy, and they may even have choral performances. they have collected 48 letters of support and conducted a community meeting with answer questions and chatted with patrons. from the meeting they collected 16 signatures of support, additionally they were ten signatures collected in opposition of the permit

application. four of the signatures were from neighbors living across the street, while six were from folks living more then a mile from the premises. the neighbor who created the petition against the application lives across the street and expressed concern with a live music happening at any time. in an effort to mediate the concerns, i did send an e-mail offering to hold a conference call with her. the applicant and myself notified them of the community meeting at the premises. the neighbor did not respond to make conference call offered nor did they go to the community meeting. it should be noted the applicant was open and willing to discuss neighbor concerns but was not given the opportunity to do so. mission station approved this with no added condition, in here to tell you more is mark, owner of standard deviants. >> thank you. i am the owner of standard deviant brewing -- brewing.

i'm hoping to be granted a limited live entertainment permit in our tasting room. as you just heard, my plans include bluegrass, vinyl record tonight his, choral porn -- performances. my business partner is an actor , so some theatre, whatever seems community-oriented. our space is inviting to all, and i would love to extend that to artists to help support what is a dwindling arts and music scene in san francisco. that prior to today's meeting, i've spoken with people in the neighborhood who have come up and approached me with a sign that was in the window. my direct next-door neighbors, i spoke with them at length about it because we share a wall with them. we have -- they have no concerns. i held a community meeting in which i explained two we were doing -- doing and took and put and stressed that this is limited live and it will be over at 10:00 p.m., and all in attendance were in support.

as a former a nationally touring musician, i understand the difficulties artists can face while getting exposure, as well as getting a meagre pay to share their dreams in a city like san francisco. it is very important that we help support that and nurture that. i would love to provide a space to do that. that is all i have. any questions, i don't know how this works. >> commissioner his, do you guys have any questions? okay. >> good evening, welcome. just a few quick questions. how long have you been in business? >> we are coming about three years the summer. >> okay. how did you advertise the community events that you held? >> i put posters on the outside the building, inside the building, and in the market across the street from us. >> you're confident that the neighborhood had ample time to see it. >> i thought so. >> how long do you think it was up for? >> a couple days. >> okay.

have you had any events yet? >> yes, i have done a couple of permitted one off events. >> and did you receive any complaints or anything from the immediate neighbors? >> not directly to me. >> any negative feedback? >> not directly to me. >> any applause? >> lots of applause. >> right, i wanted to make sure if you heard me,. >> people asked if they could record albums in there. >> nice. thank you, so much. >> go ahead. >> okay. i'm just curious, of not -- i'm not sure if there's any record off your memory of any complaints about standard deviant? >> to my knowledge, we have never received a complaint based off of an events that they've held.

i do recall at least one complaint from a neighbor about patron voices inside the brewery, and i believe that had a lot to do with the rollup door. >> yeah. i used to live right by there so i know it is a rule of garage door that you have open. do you keep that closed, open, when do you open it, i'm sure it gets hot in there. >> we have had a policy not since the very start, but since we were aware of the noise, and we plan to, if we get the permit, to it closed for all events. >> that is just a standard procedure. >> standard procedure where it closes at what 10:00 p.m. and we keep it closed unless it is sweltering hot, and even then, i asked my staff to keep it at

half height and we'd opened -- don't open it up the whole way. >> we clearly see there's a handful of people that don't want this permit to go through. have you spoken to them at all? >> i haven't. no one has approached me directly about any of this. >> i don't know if you've seen them, but they have their address -- addresses listed here. have you gone to their doors to try and knock? >> no, i got the pocket last week. >> i don't know if any of them are here tonight, but i know sometimes these things don't get resolved beforehand, so you come to us and we have to figure it out. often times you see a lot of success when we go and talk to them. >> i would love to do that. that has always been my policy. i'd like to address any concerns with people face-to-face. >> what i'm saying is it is different to say, okay, i am hosting a community meeting, come to me, versus actually going to their doorstep and a

saying, i saw that you are trying to rally a petition here , let's hear about your concerns. towards the same effect in the same goal, but different methods to do that reaching out that is all the questions i have for now. >> okay. the deputy director, would you like to address the question? >> i wanted to mention, something i left out that is quite important that is written in the memo, there was 48 signatures of letters of support collected, and i wanted to make sure that was noted for the record. >> i thank you did say that. >> there are lots of things collected. >> commissioner thomas, would you like to speak? >> i had the same question. specifically, this petition in opposition has a statement about multiple phone calls to u.s. fpd because of the destructiveness of the sound, but it sounds like -- to s. fpd

none of them came to the notice of our commission. >> we specifically asked if they were called for service, and we did not receive negative feedback from them. >> okay. >> all right, thank you. >> things are falling through the cracks. >> maybe it is a difference of perception. >> yeah,. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> just a real quick comment for yourself and others because we discussed this yesterday at the summit. any time you will put petitions together for support, it is helpful if people put their address. i know some of yours have them, and some of you are preformed, and it says name and signature. it is so much more helpful. even if they are san francisco residents, it is helpful. [please stand by]

>> so what do you plan to be using or what are you going to be using now for sound? >> for anything amplified, it's going to run through r.c.a. into a little mixing board that

i have for control of all the levels and volumes. in the house, it's little 50-wait speakers that we have. it'll run through a fixing board into a preamp, like, a stereo that you'd have in your house. >> the speakers are not powered? >> no, not powered speakers. >> all right. so let me -- i don't know -- sean, usually, on limiter live, the inspectors go in for a sound check, right, on the limited live? >> not standard practice, but unless there's a number of complaints or it's directed by the commission. >> okay. so these 50-wait amplifiers are running these speakers, correct? >> yeah. >> so tell me about the entertainment that you're going to be having one more time?

>> my vision for it -- my dream is to have a bluegrass sunday afternoon. >> so the guitar's going to have an amplifier? >> no, it would be acoustic and stand-upbass. overhead mic. if we do deejays, they would be vinyl and running through our system. the amplification that i'm anticipating is at most microphones with -- the space is really -- really high ceilings, concrete with wood ceilings. if there was an amplifier, you wouldn't need to mic it, but you don't need an amplifier to hear it in the space. >> commissioner honda: so i'm looking at the map, and your speaker is right inside the

space. the speakers are all around the whole -- >> commissioner honda: so it's surround sound basically. okay. all right. thanks. >> and one of the events that we did have, they brought in a sound person, an amplified sound, and we pointed it -- >> commissioner honda: away -- >> away from the street. >> commissioner honda: and when you have entertainment, technically, you're supposed to have the doors shut, but is there a curtain to buffer anything? >> there's not. there's a roll up, and there's one door in the roll up. we could happily staff the door and open it and close it. >> commissioner honda: yeah. i'm just curious about the ones that are complaining, so whatever you could do to mitigate that in and out situation. >> we've been working closely with mark over the last few months of his 110 permit, so

he's very compliant with keeping it closed. i would suggest if you're really concerned about sound, you could just direct staff to conduct a sound test. >> commissioner honda: well, i mean, the amplifier's small enough. we start -- >> easy enough to do. he knows how loud he's allowed to. >> commissioner tan? >> can you just describe your security briefly? if people are complaining, i'm guessing, about your customers outside that either might be smoking -- i've seen trucks out there, too. >> yeah. we stopped doing food trucks and tried to mitigate it just to popups inside. i don't usually have a door person working. we literally only sell beer,

and it's a very low-key vibe to begin with. for events, staff volunteers on the door, you know, check i.d.s, make sure people are supposed to be there and would enforce them, making sure smokers are 15 feet away and keeping voices to a minimum. >> so you've gone to these events and making sure -- >> yep. >> this permit would allow you to do it pretty much every day. on what occasions you'd be happy to have security? >> i'd be happy to have security every time we have an event. >> thank you. >> commissioner thomas? >> all right pointing out that there are a number of other live music venues in the neighborhood. i mean, i want to be responsive to this petition but obviously, the armory has significant large events, public works is

right there, there are a number of live music venues right there in the vicinity of this location, so this sounds like would have an even smaller impact on the neighborhood than the existing venues that already have permits in the neighborhood. >> i agree. i just want to correct on one thing that the armory no longer has a permit from us, so any events that they are hosting there are one-time at this point, yeah, but they're still a venue that hosts events from time to time, i guess is my point. >> okay. >> yes. >> okay. are there any other questions from commissioners? being okay. why don't you go ahead and have a seat? we're going to go ahead and open it up for public comment. i have two speaker cards, and my assumption is it's for this item.