>> i think we are planning on bringing them may seventh. >> thanks. >> you read my mind. >> i know. [laughter] >> all right. that was it, the last last time this is really said, i'm surprised you not crying. >> do you want to say something to your mom? [laughter]. >> hi, mom, love you, hi celia, i'm not sure if you understand english yet but leg port-mac, and i love you, mary claire, i hope it is not called all the time in minnesota. [laughter]. >> you hope, it is. [laughter]. >> with that, we will open for public comment on schaumburg's presentation. is there any public comment, please do state your name. you have two minutes. thank you. >> good evening. i am the president of the women 's auxiliary for the american legion across the street and i am also a part of the fillmore heritage volunteer

organization with the 100 black organization. it is unfortunate the situation that is happening there and i think we can all come together to find a resolution. outside of that, i am not on the agenda, but i did want to introduce a potential solution to the noise pollution. working with all companies that specializes in air hash, and we would like to introduce some ideas about the science of silence and how that can be incorporated in the noise pollution situation with the city, and i would like to figure out how we would be able to get onto the agenda to share that with the community or speak with someone specifically i am not familiar with the processes, they have been to a number of these meetings. i was there at vallie brown's address at the fillmore, so i'm getting familiar with the public policy, but i like to be more formal with this presentation.

>> thank you, very much. there is no back and forth, but i would encourage you to reach out to the staff of the entertainment commission and the directors, and they can help you to hone your approach year. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> is there any more public comment on inspector berg's report? public comment is closed and we'll move onto the next agenda item. it is number 5, which is a report from east. >> evening, commissioners. i just wanted to give you a legislative update, first of all. the cannabis event permit ordinance asked the board of supervisors and then was just signed this past friday by the mayor. law, with the effective date is april 20th, so what does this mean right now?

this means that the s.f. office of cannabis still has to create their framework for a cannabis event permit application, and put it up online and have people start applying for it, and just a reminder, the pool of applicants will be limited during the pilot program. the criteria for being eligible for the pilot program that you have to have an event that has been previously held on a regular basis, the event has to have received a city issue -- city issued a permit in the past, and thirdly, the event must have had significant unregulated cannabis sales and consumption in prior years that would benefit from a new regulatory plan for the permit. so i will keep you guys updated as soon this permit application becomes available. i am also keeping my

constituents updated on facebook and e-mail, and i'm advising people to also sign up for the office of cannabis' e-mail blast, which will be -- they will be able to hear about that really soon from the blast so those are the biggest updates i have for that and that peace, and then the panel, i think most of you probably heard yesterday, which was focused on how to produce a safe and successful cannabis event, i was very pleased with the expertise of the panelists and to the topic and the content, and i want to take this moment to do some highlights from the panel yesterday. so the whole objective was now that cannabis is a viable and new way to increase revenue stream, and a new way to

enhance your event, how can in the event producer produce safe and successful event, what are the legal pathways, what are the business models that can help them get there? so we had a mix of regulators and event producers, you know, we had also policymakers, we had tom soprano from supervisor mandel ' office, it was a power panel, i was really impressed with it. the takeaways where, you know, obviously we are still waiting to hear when this new permit will become available at the city level, in terms of best practices for, you know, different areas of best practices, i have some notes here. if you are trying to mitigate these challenges with some smoke, secondhand smoke, or having visibility of the cannabis activity have been

away from the eyes of the general public, potentially that could be under aged people , peter houston from the panel had a nice way of breaking it down but i thought was really helpful to think about when you think about considerations. there are site specific an audience specific considerations. you could have three categories you have the indoor event that is completely contained where you can protect the eyes that don't want to see it or the notes that don't want to smell it, you have the outdoor event that is possibly like a general public event, like a street fairbury have to create an event within an event to show what this consumption area, and then you have these outdoor events like emerald cup where the audience wants to smell the smoke, like they are in with it , they do not want that protection, so that was really helpful for me to explain how to get started in thinking about these models, and in

terms of profitability, it is the point of an event sponsor who can't revenue share with the cannabis shipped -- sales, unlike alcohol. we'll have to figure out new ways through sponsorships and booth fees to create revenue streams for event sponsors, and they will have to tear their fees appropriately, and then entertainment, his energizing with cannabis the idea of how can you create a curated, unique activation area where the music enhances the cannabis experience and vice versa, and are you thinking about the kinds of products, like what's not easily available in terms of different kinds of strains of cannabis, and how argue branding it as a unique differentiated experience? i thought it was a rich

conversation, i saw a lot of people who were enjoying it, and i'm happy to see them participate. i wanted to give you guys more of a substantive feedback take away from that panel, and lastly, i just wanted to thank my colleague, sean burke, for welcoming me when i first started and showing me the ropes, and being such a wonderful thought partner, moral support, creative soul, and it means a lot to me to say that our paths got to cross, and i wish you and your family all the best, i know we will be seeing you when you will come back and visit us, right? right. [laughter]. >> yes. lots more to tell you before you go, just off the record. [laughter]. >> comments? >> i had a very quick one. i wanted to really applaud the

presentation that you moderated yesterday. you took marijuana to an academic level that i did not know existed. [laughter]. >> i learned a vocabulary that i did not know existed, and a very professional, and i think it really does speak to the viability and the reality of where this is heading, and i want to applaud you. frankly, joking aside, you took it very serious, as it should be, because this is an economic powerhouse. >> thank you very much. >> hi, dylan, i wanted to clarify. you said that you had three points of what types of events would qualify for this new cannabis event permit. the third one was significant history with unregulated marijuana. i'm just trying to understand what that means. >> yeah, i actually don't know what that means in terms of evidence or proof, but that is

what's written in the code. >> interesting. >> i really wonder, do they want photographs of people charges smoking up, or what. [laughter]. >> or as a police reports, i don't know, exactly. >> i think the point was a lot of the communities are really concerned about cannabis being infused into some event that has been a legacy event, so i think they purposely left. they left it purposely vague, but the idea was they were not trying to bring it to some random festival or culture. it was a festival that had a history of people. >> it is confusing, like you i wrote a rewarding people for behaviour, but the spirit is they want experienced operators that's what i took away yesterday. as they issued these, it is a more likely chance of assuring

a sex -- successful event, people who have navigated large crowds. >> that helps me understand a little bit more. i find it a little confusing. the other question i have, are we planning to update any of our forums to ask if events are one-time events are looking for cannabis as part of their event , and then to direct them that way? or is that being considered? >> i can speak to the event permit and guide. >> i think we should hold off on answering that because we might have a really great update to give you guys in the next month or so. >> okay. , great. >> definitely, we will turn in. >> i know you guys have been working with the cannabis office, so i would love for us not -- >> definitely. >> thank you.

>> i have one comment, and i want to reiterate. i thank you guys have people who are good at often sent defence and people are also in the locker room, and i feel like the inspector has really been one of them, and that echoes that. i want to comment on that too. great job yesterday on the cannabis file. thank you. >> is there any public comment on the senior analyst and his presentation? seen none, public comment is closed. we will move to the next item which is police department questions and comments. we have a member here but it is not for this item exactly. the next agenda item is number 7, caring and possible action regarding applications with the permit of the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. we will begin with the consent agenda. unless a member of the commissioner the public request to make comment, the consent agenda will not include time for discussion.

the director, please introduce the agenda. >> thank you, good evening. so the first two permit applications on the agenda this evening are on consent because they're both accessory use permits. there was no opposition from the public and no condition added by the police department. if you have any questions, please let me know. >> i will move to approve the consent agenda. >> second. >> is there any public comment on the consent agenda item specifically? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> commissioner thomas... [roll call]

>> it is so moved. congratulations, consent agenda people. you permits have been approved. please follow up with the deputy director at your earliest convenience to find out what your next steps are. all right, next is number 8, which is discussion and possible action to adopt a written comments and recommendations to be submitted by the executive director of the planning department. am i correct here? we are moving on with the regular agenda here. deputy director, please bring us to the next item. sorry about that? >> are you planning to recuse yourself for the next -- >> yes, i had to -- i have to recuse myself. i did not know that we are they are. i am now recusing myself. >> okay. [laughter]. >> great. [laughter].

[laughter]. >> thank you for the heads up. >> okay. take it away. >> ever first permit application on the regular agenda is for a limited live performance permit for standard deviant brewing. the applicant has obtained a couple of one time permits in the past to host live music and is excited to have a fixed place permit for the brewery. they plan to have final d.j.s, bluegrass shows, trivia, and comedy, and they may even have choral performances. they have collected 48 letters of support and conducted a community meeting with answer questions and chatted with patrons. from the meeting they collected 16 signatures of support, additionally they were ten signatures collected in opposition of the permit application. four of the signatures were from neighbors living across the street, while six were from

folks living more then a mile from the premises. the neighbor who created the petition against the application lives across the street and expressed concern with a live music happening at any time. in an effort to mediate the concerns, i did send an e-mail offering to hold a conference call with her. the applicant and myself notified them of the community meeting at the premises. the neighbor did not respond to make conference call offered nor did they go to the community meeting. it should be noted the applicant was open and willing to discuss neighbor concerns but was not given the opportunity to do so. mission station approved this with no added condition, in here to tell you more is mark, owner of standard deviants. >> thank you. i am the owner of standard deviant brewing -- brewing. i'm hoping to be granted a limited live entertainment permit in our tasting room.

as you just heard, my plans include bluegrass, vinyl record tonight his, choral porn -- performances. my business partner is an actor , so some theatre, whatever seems community-oriented. our space is inviting to all, and i would love to extend that to artists to help support what is a dwindling arts and music scene in san francisco. that prior to today's meeting, i've spoken with people in the neighborhood who have come up and approached me with a sign that was in the window. my direct next-door neighbors, i spoke with them at length about it because we share a wall with them. we have -- they have no concerns. i held a community meeting in which i explained two we were doing -- doing and took and put and stressed that this is limited live and it will be over at 10:00 p.m., and all in attendance were in support. as a former a nationally touring musician, i understand the difficulties artists can

face while getting exposure, as well as getting a meagre pay to share their dreams in a city like san francisco. it is very important that we help support that and nurture that. i would love to provide a space to do that. that is all i have. any questions, i don't know how this works. >> commissioner his, do you guys have any questions? okay. >> good evening, welcome. just a few quick questions. how long have you been in business? >> we are coming about three years the summer. >> okay. how did you advertise the community events that you held? >> i put posters on the outside the building, inside the building, and in the market across the street from us. >> you're confident that the neighborhood had ample time to see it. >> i thought so. >> how long do you think it was up for? >> a couple days. >> okay. have you had any events yet? >> yes, i have done a couple of

permitted one off events. >> and did you receive any complaints or anything from the immediate neighbors? >> not directly to me. >> any negative feedback? >> not directly to me. >> any applause? >> lots of applause. >> right, i wanted to make sure if you heard me,. >> people asked if they could record albums in there. >> nice. thank you, so much. >> go ahead. >> okay. i'm just curious, of not -- i'm not sure if there's any record off your memory of any complaints about standard deviant? >> to my knowledge, we have never received a complaint based off of an events that they've held. i do recall at least one

complaint from a neighbor about patron voices inside the brewery, and i believe that had a lot to do with the rollup door. >> yeah. i used to live right by there so i know it is a rule of garage door that you have open. do you keep that closed, open, when do you open it, i'm sure it gets hot in there. >> we have had a policy not since the very start, but since we were aware of the noise, and we plan to, if we get the permit, to it closed for all events. >> that is just a standard procedure. >> standard procedure where it closes at what 10:00 p.m. and we keep it closed unless it is sweltering hot, and even then, i asked my staff to keep it at half height and we'd opened -- don't open it up the whole way. >> we clearly see there's a handful of people that don't want this permit to go through.

have you spoken to them at all? >> i haven't. no one has approached me directly about any of this. >> i don't know if you've seen them, but they have their address -- addresses listed here. have you gone to their doors to try and knock? >> no, i got the pocket last week. >> i don't know if any of them are here tonight, but i know sometimes these things don't get resolved beforehand, so you come to us and we have to figure it out. often times you see a lot of success when we go and talk to them. >> i would love to do that. that has always been my policy. i'd like to address any concerns with people face-to-face. >> what i'm saying is it is different to say, okay, i am hosting a community meeting, come to me, versus actually going to their doorstep and a saying, i saw that you are trying to rally a petition here , let's hear about your

concerns. towards the same effect in the same goal, but different methods to do that reaching out that is all the questions i have for now. >> okay. the deputy director, would you like to address the question? >> i wanted to mention, something i left out that is quite important that is written in the memo, there was 48 signatures of letters of support collected, and i wanted to make sure that was noted for the record. >> i thank you did say that. >> there are lots of things collected. >> commissioner thomas, would you like to speak? >> i had the same question. specifically, this petition in opposition has a statement about multiple phone calls to u.s. fpd because of the destructiveness of the sound, but it sounds like -- to s. fpd

none of them came to the notice of our commission. >> we specifically asked if they were called for service, and we did not receive negative feedback from them. >> okay. >> all right, thank you. >> things are falling through the cracks. >> maybe it is a difference of perception. >> yeah,. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> just a real quick comment for yourself and others because we discussed this yesterday at the summit. any time you will put petitions together for support, it is helpful if people put their address. i know some of yours have them, and some of you are preformed, and it says name and signature. it is so much more helpful. even if they are san francisco residents, it is helpful. [please stand by]

>> so what do you plan to be using or what are you going to be using now for sound? >> for anything amplified, it's going to run through r.c.a. into a little mixing board that i have for control of all the levels and volumes. in the house, it's little

50-wait speakers that we have. it'll run through a fixing board into a preamp, like, a stereo that you'd have in your house. >> the speakers are not powered? >> no, not powered speakers. >> all right. so let me -- i don't know -- sean, usually, on limiter live, the inspectors go in for a sound check, right, on the limited live? >> not standard practice, but unless there's a number of complaints or it's directed by the commission. >> okay. so these 50-wait amplifiers are running these speakers, correct? >> yeah. >> so tell me about the entertainment that you're going to be having one more time? >> my vision for it -- my dream is to have a bluegrass sunday

afternoon. >> so the guitar's going to have an amplifier? >> no, it would be acoustic and stand-upbass. overhead mic. if we do deejays, they would be vinyl and running through our system. the amplification that i'm anticipating is at most microphones with -- the space is really -- really high ceilings, concrete with wood ceilings. if there was an amplifier, you wouldn't need to mic it, but you don't need an amplifier to hear it in the space. >> commissioner honda: so i'm looking at the map, and your speaker is right inside the space. the speakers are all around the whole --

>> commissioner honda: so it's surround sound basically. okay. all right. thanks. >> and one of the events that we did have, they brought in a sound person, an amplified sound, and we pointed it -- >> commissioner honda: away -- >> away from the street. >> commissioner honda: and when you have entertainment, technically, you're supposed to have the doors shut, but is there a curtain to buffer anything? >> there's not. there's a roll up, and there's one door in the roll up. we could happily staff the door and open it and close it. >> commissioner honda: yeah. i'm just curious about the ones that are complaining, so whatever you could do to mitigate that in and out situation. >> we've been working closely with mark over the last few months of his 110 permit, so he's very compliant with keeping it closed. i would suggest if you're

really concerned about sound, you could just direct staff to conduct a sound test. >> commissioner honda: well, i mean, the amplifier's small enough. we start -- >> easy enough to do. he knows how loud he's allowed to. >> commissioner tan? >> can you just describe your security briefly? if people are complaining, i'm guessing, about your customers outside that either might be smoking -- i've seen trucks out there, too. >> yeah. we stopped doing food trucks and tried to mitigate it just to popups inside. i don't usually have a door person working. we literally only sell beer, and it's a very low-key vibe to begin with. for events, staff volunteers on the door, you know, check

i.d.s, make sure people are supposed to be there and would enforce them, making sure smokers are 15 feet away and keeping voices to a minimum. >> so you've gone to these events and making sure -- >> yep. >> this permit would allow you to do it pretty much every day. on what occasions you'd be happy to have security? >> i'd be happy to have security every time we have an event. >> thank you. >> commissioner thomas? >> all right pointing out that there are a number of other live music venues in the neighborhood. i mean, i want to be responsive to this petition but obviously, the armory has significant large events, public works is right there, there are a number of live music venues right there in the vicinity of this

location, so this sounds like would have an even smaller impact on the neighborhood than the existing venues that already have permits in the neighborhood. >> i agree. i just want to correct on one thing that the armory no longer has a permit from us, so any events that they are hosting there are one-time at this point, yeah, but they're still a venue that hosts events from time to time, i guess is my point. >> okay. >> yes. >> okay. are there any other questions from commissioners? being okay. why don't you go ahead and have a seat? we're going to go ahead and open it up for public comment. i have two speaker cards, and my assumption is it's for this item. yes, thank you. >> good evening, commissioners and everyone else. thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to be here.

i am one of the block captains of the mission neighborhood watch and also i'm here to testify for the community, as well. i have additional petitions -- who do i give them to? 1801 mission street, the ones that are building their building, i have support from there. 275, 281, and 291 14th street, also, 269 14th street, and petitions from people on ministry, as well, and going all the way down the street. standard deviant, when it was permitted was permitted as a small tasting area, and we are

okay with that. we oppose live bands. they have already had live bands. we have called the policemany, many, many times. first, we asked the police just to ask them to turn it down. it didn't get turned down, and we have a whole list of every action that we take in this mission district, and it hasn't gotten turned down, so we asked them if they could just stop the music. any way, i'm going to ask -- that was -- >> you have one more minute. >> we, the family, friends and visitors have already endured the impact of live bands, and it was disruptive and unruley n many accounts. due to loud music and more people, car break-ins have already increased. the added volume will not bring

any positive out come. it has manifested to people yo urinating -- >> thank you. your time is up. >> and we have helped clean the neighborhood up. >> okay. thank you, your time is up. okay. i have a john bradley here, and then, for anyone else who would like to speak, please go ahead and lineup over here. >> john bradley. we request that the -- that the decision be tabled until after some of the items discussed here are cleared up. permit application 2018-04267504 says from the public health department to say comply with san francisco noise ordinance, didn't have the time to really look into what that is. number two, the garage door in question, i have a photo, it's currently noncomplying. it's a 34-inch door. it's an occupancy f-1 and d, so

if there is a fire, it is required to have two exits and currently, it has zero exits by the letter of the law. number three, planning enforcement violation which refers to the noise and -- and sound disturbance that -- that was in question earlier, which is a document -- i have the document with me, which was abated is said to include accurate floor plans, and when i went to the d.b.i. permit records today, realized that -- that there's a permit application 2017-07313422 that says existing storage kegs on pallets. and then, permit application 2018-04267540 says existing and it's got all of the picnic tables that are shown, and it

doesn't say any change, whereas in the 2017 permit, it shows specifically the tasting area, which it was -- i guess the use of it was termed as with a specific square footage, right? so like, when you calculate occupancy load, and like when a fire is, you know, there's certain door sizes that are required, a certain amount of exits, and all we're requesting is that this discussion be tabled until it gets to a -- like, a safe place. >> sir, thank you, your time is up. >> thank you. >> okay. are there any other members of the public? okay. seeing none, public comment is now closed. commissioners? >> can i make a couple comments? >> yes, please. >> so i would like to respond to the last gentleman. a couple thoughts come to mind. first of all, i guess i'm much

more interested in hearing how the license is going to impact a neighborhood than deficiencies of the building, and i say that because we're going to get into real specifics here. our scope and jurisdiction is really the police department and the planning department. if, in fact, the building has deficiencies, that's something you really should take up with d.b.i., and they certainly have the authority to stop the use, and the san francisco fire department. so i guess in response to those comments i heard, he wasn't speaking to the impact on the neighbors or the community, it was just the structure, so i just kind of wanted to share that thought. i think that's it for me for now. >> i think also what he's saying, if it was really that serious situation, we wouldn't have -- the application wouldn't even be here, you know? zoning would have to approve it before it even reached us.

>> well, there could be d.b.i. issues that planning wouldn't necessarily know, but that -- and that can get solved. i mean, technically, we could approve a permit tonight, and they could have a permit, and fire could step in and take your occupancy away. i'm just trying to say it's kind of oil and water, so to speak. >> well, yeah. i mean, full p.o.e. what he's saying is really detailed. limited live is different in a sense that, i mean -- i mean, brian, maybe you can educate us more about what the planning code or -- i mean, between the limited live and full p.o.e. >> yeah, you're getting in the weeds. when planning looks at these applications, there's a difference between the place of

entertainment and the limited live permit. limited live is a limited use. they wouldn't be here tonight if it wasn't. that being said, i think everything commissioner falzon said was accurate. i think the gentleman that spoke at public comment is within his rights to make inquiries of othertion a agenc but that's not what we're here to look at tonight. we're here to look at the entertainment permit. >> very well. in the interests of moving this along, i'd like to move to approve the permit with the condition obviously of our good neighbor policy but to set a sound limit with a sound check by our inspectors. i think i did hear some concerns about neighbors, not just about building condition,

but about sound leakage. it sounds like there may have been concern in the past. i don't know why it wouldn't have been recorded by the police department if they were called in, but our main purpose is to set a limit how loud the place can be and their sound amplifiers, so i trust the staff to set an appropriate level. that is my motion. >> second. >> can we still talk? >> yeah, you can still talk. >> may i? the only thing i wanted to point out, because i think we're all sensitive to the immediate neighbors. i think this might sound not so intuitive, but we have a lot of oversight against this licensee if we give him a permit. if we continue to give him temporary permits, it's a lot harder to put restrictions on him. i think if i were looking at it

through the optics of a neighbor, but us setting some standards and having a good neighbor policy in play, it's going to make the neighbors a lot more powerful in the event there's a problem. hoping there isn't one and everyone works together and collaboratively. i just wanted to share that. that's it. thank you. >> as i said before, i would encourage i think the path for negotiation is to bring the neighbors and the operator together, so thank you offering that already. i think our staff is willing to help negotiate a conversation around what the levels are, so i would encourage all neighbors to reach out to our staff and schedule that because i think that's a better forum to, you know, work out other details outside of the permit.

>> okay. thank you, commissioners falzon and tan for that additional information. we had a motion and we had a second. are we ready to move to a vote? >> can we repeat that motion again? >> i move to approve the permit with a -- with our good neighbor policy and also a sound check and to set sound levels for the venue. >> okay. >> can you please do a vote? >> public comment? >> we already took public comment. >> we already took public comment. >> okay. [roll call] >> okay. your permit application is conditionally granted, so please follow up for next

steps. will someone go grab ben. >> in case the public doesn't know, they're going to do a sound check and set a level so it doesn't bleed out if case you're -- in case you're concerned. >> all right. why don't we just move along. >> all right. i hope everything went well in my absence. the deputy director acevedo, please introduce the next regular agenda item. >> thank you, president bleiman. so for our next agenda item, we actually have a request by the applicant to continue the application to the april 16 hearing? there is mediation that we have begun as of today, and we would like a little bit more time to

continue with that mediation. so is there a motion to approve the request to continue? >> yes. is there a -- should we do public comment on that first? i think we have to do it on every item, am i correct? is there any public comment on the request to continue this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. so we're entertaining motion to continue it. >> i'll raise a motion to continue. >> second. [roll call] >> it has been continued. okay. the next agenda item is number eight, discussion and possible action to adopt written comments and/or recommendations to be submitted to the executive director to the planning department and/or department of building inspection regarding noise issues for proposed residential and/or hotel/motel projects per

chapter 116 of the administrative code. director weiland, please introduce this. >> okay. this is a project that is going in at 400 divisadero street, and it only falls within 300 feet of a place of entertainment, madrone art bar, but it is more than 1,000 feet from the independent, club waziema, and empourium. they redid their sound tests at my request to conduct during entertainment, and the sound tests that we had had on file was a few years old, so i just wanted to commend you for that and for taking it seriously. why don't you come on up and tell us a little bit more about

this, and i'll also just note the one neighboring p.o.e. within 300 feet, madrone, the owner, michael krause, submitted a letter of support. >> i'm the owner of 400 divi divisadero. we actually have some slides if there's a way to --

we would propose putting in 186 rental housing units with 20% below market rate and 8100 square feet of retail on the ground floor that would be neighborhood serving local type of merchants. we'd have a six-story mural on the north side. we'd have an active ground floor coming around to the lobby. really, i'm doing this because we need the housing, and that block is just really unsafe to walk right now. our height would be 65 feet on -- we'd be 65 feet high on

divisadero. we'd be 45 feet high on oak street. our parking ratio is .3:1, 57 cars with 186 apartments. we'd have space for 170 bicycles. and i've gotten to work with michael quite a bit over at madrone. he was happy to let us do some additional measuring of the acoustics a couple of weeks ago. it looks like our numbers are stable. i've met with club waziema and i've meet with the emporium. we understand about the new

night life ordinance that would be coming into place, so we'd be a prototype with, and we'd be happy to comply with that. our insulation numbers, we would wind up using the oitc 34 windows. we're going to comply with all the regulations that the entertainment commission has, as well as the state. i have my acoustical engineer here tonight if there's any technical questions that we've been working with, and happy to answer any questions that the commission might like to ask. >> are the parking exclusively

for your tenants, i guess? >> yes, with the exception of we'll have at least one car share, which i'm assuming that other people who are members of the car share program outside the building could use. >> but you're not going to have it open to club goers in the neighborhood who can't find parking and they can pay to come in and park into your building? >> no, because we're less than what we actually need, so we don't have the luxury of having additional parking for people coming for entertainment or retail shopping in the neighborhood. >> i think seeing your photos, you are going to have retail down below? >> yes. >> what kind of retail were you thinking? is it -- >> yeah. so we did a retail work drop about a year ago. we got merchants from diviz and lower haight. i think the retail is the most

important thing people will experience of this project. they told us we need more daytime types of uses. diviz gets a lot of support during the night but not a lot during the day. so the retail is modular. we can get it down to 750 feet. right now, it's about 4,000. right now, we have a retailer who would take the whole thing, but we don't want to do that. the key is you want different people coming at different times, day and night, for different purposes. >> so are you encouraging possibly late night, i'm assuming retailers might be open late night until midnight or 11:00? >> i don't think so. there's a group that has a fitness use, so they might be

open till 11:00, so that's not entertainment so much as people using exercise equipment and so forth. >> the reason why i lead up to, i guess they call it the lee lemgs lation is the lighting around your building. it helps the people at night going to their cars or avoiding break-ins. you know, there is quite a bit of, you know, walking traffic at night from these clubs, so i just want to kind of brighten up the area for them. so do you have lighting design in your plan right now? >> we haven't spec'd that out. we probably have ambient. it wouldn't pollute the other neighboring homes. we probably have some motion sensitive lighting, as well, and it's really dark there right now on that block. >> right.

so what we encourage is try to lighten up the sidewalk so that people who park in your area who go to the clubs, kind of helps them and it also protects their cars maybe when they park there. i think it's part of your conditions that you have some lighting plan. i'm not saying flood plan, but at least lights where it's not so dark. >> they would be shielded down. >> that's fine. >> i've discussed with the architect, but we'll probably do the full lighting plan when we're post planning commission and we're working on our site permit. >> okay. that's it. thank you. >> oh, you can -- thank you from him, not from all of us yet. my thank you is for -- i know that offense times, projects

come to this, so i appreciate that. i live on broadway and oak, so i don't think that people talking in the streets is going to be your main issue around noise. but i think similar to what commissioner lee is saying, i mean, it's interesting that you said you did a retail workshop, and people wanted more daytime things. but with a higher concentration of night time things, could we build on those night time things? i'm curious. are you saying you're not going to have any potentially night time entertainment in there because of the workshop you had a year ago? >> not necessarily. i take that seriously because we had a lot of people. it was a great discussion, and

i figure the people who live and work there are the experts. i have a retail consultant working with me, but i've been careful not to sign any leases. there are some uses for night time that i think would be interesting that we don't have their presently. there's a place in oakland called the octopus salon that's a literary type performance place. it's really unique place. there are other places, p.o.e.s that have started doing some interesting curation and are thinking along those lines. i'm just trying to be in touch with the merchants and the neighbors to see what's in demand, so i'm not categorically saying. the retailers need more oxygen in that area during the day. they tell me we only have about 14% of the space is dedicated

towards pure retail, so we're not getting boarded up and running into a lot of problems. i think we're pretty balanced on divisadero. i'd want to look at what's the concept, for the sponsor, and i think that's important, how they fit together as a merchant community. >> absolutely. i wasn't at those workshops, and i've only lived there for about a year ago, so i'm not trying to speak about the neighborhood as a whole, but i think concentrating efforts to say hey, what about one more live music venue that could add to a different type of variety, rather than saying let's add a cafe where people can work on their laptops. i've also just received materia materials inviting people to

the community projects. but it seems like you've gone above and beyond your typical project around community. >> thank you. selfishly, i want to get the best ideas. that's what's going to make the site great. >> well, i look forward to it getting built. our concerns for sound are for neighbors abutting you. thank you for the work, and i look forward to the project. >> thank you. >> yes, thanks for doing this. i just want to point out, and bryan, commissioner tan, you said you held weekly meetings, and i just want to thank you for spending the time to get to n know a community that's nearby.

i'm just curious, so the windows that are facing madrone and kind of the outside, do you have different s.b.c. ratings for some and different on others, or are you just -- >> to be honest, we haven't spec'd it out. i did a building in the last cycle that was right next to the freeway, and dean makras wanted to walk in before we opened, and his jaw dropped because you could hear a pin drop, so i'm familiar with speccing those out, but typically, where -- we do those after we have our planning commission approval. >> and another question, you're planning on it all being rental, which is fantastic. are you planning on being the landlord for that property?

>> we'll see. right now, i still have to get it financed, so hopefully, we'll be able to do that. we're going above the 18% b.m.r. i'm very close with several financial partners to signing, and that'll be part of our negotiation, if they want to stick it out long-term or they want to finish it out. hopefully in the next few weeks i'll be able to tell you. >> yeah. i would just encourage you -- the freeway was one thing, but there's something about people around a freeway, they've kind of resigned themselves to the fact that there's cars speeding past them at all times and there's something different psychologically with people when somebody screams outside of their apartment or there's a venue, music, and they feel that there's a human responsible that needs to pay for that, so we just urge you to up the s.b.c. rating as high

as you possibly can to protect the cultural institutions that are around you. but other than that, it seems you did a stellar job on this, and i applaud you. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> anymore questions? all right. thank you very much. you can have a seat. is there any public comment on this item agenda? agenda item? thank you. seeing none, public comment is closed. [gavel]. >> so we mind me again. we're just recommending -- are we doing a vote here? >> you can recommend added conditions for the planning commission to review other than the standards but we always provide the standard conditions that were approved by the commission. >> yeah. so i'll move to recommend the standard conditions for this project to the planning commission. >> second. [roll call]

>> all right. you've been recommended for it. thank you very much for coming in, and please follow up with us with any questions you might have. all right. the next agenda item is number nine, review and possible action to change the conditions on ec-1377, place of entertainment and extended hours premises permits, d.b.a. halcyon, specifically review the listed conditions that were added on december 18, 2018 and stayed by the commission on january 15, 2019 until march 19, 2019. and director weiland, can you please introduce this? >> sure. all right. so this is for halcyon. we are specifically -- why don't you all turn to this in your