the status of that property and provide direction as they move forward with alterations to their properties or redeveloping their properties. >> so this doesn't replace a historic analysis property by property. >> well, it could. >> if something came in at level a? >> if something came in at level a, we would still need to do that analysis. if we identified the property was a resource and given a category a and if someone want to defollowish or do something to that property, they would have to go through -- they would still have to go through the california environmental quality act review to ensure they weren't impacting that property or to document how they were impacting that property. if the survey had been done on a proactive basis and we had all of this map shaded in instead of

only 20% of it, and the majority in the properties have been found not to be, that step of analyzing whether or not something is a historic resource is when someone comes in with a building permit or development application, we would not have to -- we i don't no longer have twewe would no longer have todo. we found it not to be a resource, we no longer have to ask that question at the beginning of the process. >> if it came in at a category c? >> correct. >> but there's a lot that come in at category b, which is undetermined. >> ideally, we're not going to find things to be category d. or undetermined. it's to move away from category b and end up with as or cs. >> the only reason i ask is two weeks ago i got a call from a perspective and they said well,

we have category level b and i was like, oh, well how many of the properties that you surveyed fall into that category -- >> nothing that has been surveyed -- it just means unknown. b means unknown and c means we know it's not a historic resource. >> it's in your map area. that's why i'm asking. is the n.c.d.s surveyed? >> the n.c.d.s have been surveyed but the results have not been adopted yet. so those statuses in our parcel information map have not changed. so there still be bs in that. because the survey hasn't been adopted. when the survey is actually adopted and formalized, then we change the status codes. so adoption means that we've taken it, we've done the analysis and we've presented it to the historic preservation commission. >> so your n.c.d.s have not been adopted yet?

>> correct. >> all the other shaded areas have been. >> correct. >> got it. >> so i don't want to over state that there's never going to be a category b b in this shaded are. because it's the case there will be category bs wa because propertying may not be aiming al edge able. we'rageeligible. >> if someone is potentially thinking about buying a property or developing a property or preserving a property, you all, in theory, have done a significant amount of work. it just so happens that this parcel was in an n.c.d. and you haven't adopted it yet. >> got it. >> so then, all my questions are answers. at the end, when you survey the city and adopted them, it will help to inform the process that much better? >> correct. >> because now, as i understand it, the planning department has

a new program where you can come in and submit and do the consultation and within 60 days, they will let you know what category or area that the particular parcel -- >> you are referring to our historic resource assessment process program. which is new. we're piloting it this year. it's an advance of a property owner can voluntarily apply for that process. essentially it is a property-by-property survey and it was infende intended to fillp before the survey can get to these. >> my last question before supervisor mandelman, what willl you adopt the surveys on the n.c.d.s? did you already talk about that too? >> well, i'm not 100% on the timeline for that.

i think we are looking at probably moving forward with those maybe as part of each phase as it sort of -- >> can i make one suggestion. this is an important part, this is just my opinion as it relates to home s.f. we not couraged people to -- and often times a lot of actual opportunities for greater density and development happened to be on the commercial corridors whether they're an exiting property oexisting prop. if someone is interested in taking part in that process, it actually helps them to know what category the properties are under. so, i don't know if that's a planning department or simply your historic preservation commission but it certainly would be helpful because then people go in with the level of certainty to know whether or not they want to potentially participate in this program or not. it can affect the purchase and

sale process, it can affect the whole development. again, we want to preserve and we want to protect the buildings that are historic resources. the ones that are not, we want -- there's an inter play between the home s.f. program and some of these additional density and affordable programs and this particular survey. it absolutely is helpful. i came across this recently in the last month. >> i appreciate that comment. certainly we could consider the n.c.d.s of the separate phase or making that more of a priority to get that one adopt adopted. >> i know this is his baby for lack of a better word. i just think it's important, if we're having the conversation about additional housing and additional affordable housing

and incentivizing if this can help to inform that process as along with preservation at the same time. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you for actually teasing out the n.c.d. question. if the survey has been done, i see know reason they shouldn't be adopted. it's like, you know, any time there's a survey that is been done, it should be adopted. i would get that phase out of the way now. i mean, that need not be a part of this entire process. i know supervisor mandelman wants to speak. >> i'm sorry, one more question. i hope i'm not slowing you down. just to supervisor pose tin's ps point. what about finalizing the adoption of that? >> well, the field work has been done for it so like we've looked at each property. we haven't -- so it's part of

our legacy data that still needs to be sort of looked at and based on our current methodolo methodology, and final evaluations, still need to be made. it's also a staffing issue. how we focus our time. >> i would just end, if you've done the majority of the work and there's additional work and we're going to approve in this process, which i know we are, i think we're all going to be highlighting additional staff and work that you would prioritize that first and that work has been done and get it off of your plate. i'll send with that. >> >> supervisor mandelman: i totally agree and i was happy it was on supervisor's safai. >> >> supervisor mandelman: i wanted to thank kate black for her great work for the city. and also, to just concur with

the supervisors on this committee who see this as an important priority as i think about the increasing -- the up zoning happening in san francisco either as directed by the state or as we decide and look for additional places where we have development capacity, there's development pressure throughout the city and i think it is all the more important that we very quickly identify what is important to us and what we don't want to see lost as the new san francisco gets built. for me, this is also a high priority and i would hope that we can move it along closer to the two and a half-year rather than some of the longer time periods. i wanted to and by and say that and thank you all for your great work. >> very much appreciate you coming, supervisor, mandelman. let's open up this for public comment.

mr. wright. >> top class demonstration. i made it clear what class of people that advocate for the most vulnerable people in the city. s.f. viewers, please, out of all the demonstrations that i've seen, everything is top class. this is the one that strikes me the most pertaining to support, new housing and development. i want to get the future representatives to look at building all these brand new apartments where you keep the amount of money that you spend on these apartment building complex at a minimum and by the same response, get the maximum performance and output of your building. i would like to get the standards set for any apartment building complex that is being built is to use this standard being used in mountain view. this is 144-unit apartment building complex that's being built for $56 million.

that's the best bang that you can get for your buck. i was talking to supervisor walton about this and the projects that he is been working on and they're charging $180,000 per unit. you multiply that by the 144 and subject the difference and you save $66 million. you can confirm that with him when talking to him. this demonstration is just flows. and, san mateo county, there's another public building complex being built for $57 million. by the same response, my idea of the money that's getting of the budget of $8.5 million and the $500 million that was handed down for homeless only, you can build nine of these apartment building complexes and make a 27-storey apartment building complex. here is a 68-unit apartment building complex.

you could stack those up 27-storeys and take a big chunk out of the housing of the homeless. >> thank you, mr. wright. are there any other members of the public here to speak on this item number 5? the historic preservation survey. >> sir, if you speak into the mic. >> the reservations of the complexes, the value in total should be very less than what we are anticipating and purchasing or allowing financial means to utilize. now, again, we are trying to establish a new criteria into destroying the system which we're in the process. the important thing is what i like to initiate is that in this part of neighborhoods, are there

going to be vocational training processing, meaning did you get trained for vocational training? we're going to have a lot of employment to provide these stability of financial interests so they can pay and provide insurance for the room. now, the thing is we have spent much money, billions and trillions of dollars on advancements we should know better. so the cost of the development of $61 billion is unacceptable. it reduces the cost of $66 million. unacceptable. the indication is we must review and allow the inspectors to allow what needs to be renovated and what is going to be the least cost of each property, including the foundation. they look like historic locations and in that sense we must establish the appropriate

means to secure and stabilize our financial institutions and you are essentially using your negligence to provide proposals where there's no better investment. there's developments going on in san francisco and we're working on it because something happened. you need to get the right inspectors inside. if you failed to do so, there's no need to have you in government business. >> thank you, sir. seeing no other members of the public for public comment, public comment is closed. i think everything that has been said should be said has been said. again, i want to thank the commission for having the fortitude to come and say what should have been said years ago and thank staff for preparing that at the commission's request. and i was really happy to hear from my colleagues of their interest. hopefully we can get this right in the 19-20 budget, which will be before us in the months

ahead. with that, i will ask that the item be filed and this meeting is adjourned.

[cheers and applause]. >> all right. good morning, everybody. first of all, i am mayor london breed, and i am so excited to be here to talk about housing. now you guys maybe tired of me talking about housing, but i will not stop until we get it built, and that is why we are here today. [applause]. >> we are joined by so many amazing supporters of affordable and teacher housing in san francisco. we have so much work to do to build more housing all over the

city across all income levels. we are working together right now to put together an affordable housing bond for this november, and i'm really excited about the folks who are working hand-in-hand to make this a reality. this is a key part of our housing plan to fund the production of new affordable housing. but just having the funding isn't enough. we have to get better at approving more housing faster in this city. and in january, i announced during my state of the city address that we will be moving forward with a charter amendment to make it easier to build affordable housing and teacher housing in san francisco, that we will no longer let the bureaucracy of city government stand in the way, that we will no longer let let's barriers to housing stand in the way. i made a promise to make

affordable housing in san francisco as of right, because affordable housing is a right. [applause]. >> today, i'm proud to say that we have follow-through on followed through on that promise , and yesterday, we introduced the charter amendment at the board of supervisors, and i want to thank our cosponsors standing here with us today. supervisor vallie brown from district five. [cheers and applause]. >> and supervisor safai from district 11. [cheers and applause]. >> to those other members of the board of supervisors, we are looking at other cosponsors. this is critical. the housing production in san francisco, and thank you to the 20 supervisors for joining us today to step up to the plate and say when we have 100%

affordable housing projects or a teacher housing project proposed within the zoning, that we should build it. no more hoops to jump through, no more commission hearings, no more appeals, no more know in my backyard. [applause]. >> we also want to thank the elected officials who are here and support, because while we know there are plenty of teachers in this town who support teacher housing, we are busy in our schools teaching our students. we have the next best thing. the elected official who run air community college board and the san francisco board of education , thank you to community college board members alex randolph who is here today. [applause] , and i think tom is here as

well today. thank you so much to tom temporal no. also from the san francisco board of education, we have jenny lam who is here today. [applause]. >> i think. she is on her way. and mar sanchez. [applause]. >> the leaders here know that the students they know benefit from making sure that our educators have access to safe and affordable housing, and i'm also making another exciting announcement, that today, i will be signing onto the ballot and ordinance to help us build more teacher affordable housing. this law will rezone all of our public parcels for affordable and teacher housing. let me tell you, what that means is we will be opening up opportunities to build housing

faster on public property throughout san francisco. let me give you an example. many of you know that years ago, the project that's going to be happening at the old campus of france's key, we committed to building teacher housing on this particular property. but unfortunately, this property would not know that -- was not necessarily zoned for teacher housing, adding, in addition to the years of process, adding another two years on top of the bureaucracy that is making it difficult to get this housing built now when we know we need it the most. so what this legislation would do is completely rezone all of the public properties that exist in san francisco, so the opportunity to use these properties for 100% affordable and teacher housing would be made faster. so the goal is, this long

process to rezone land which was slow down and adding extra years of bureaucracy is one that will hopefully make a significant difference. this ballot measure will allow us to move more quickly and use surplus public land to build badly needed affordable and future housing. i am very excited about this opportunity. i know that a lot of the folks who are part of the housing community understand and are excited about this crazy bureaucracy that we are trying to peel away like an onion to get to the root. ultimately, we are going to continue to push the envelope to get rid of the layers of bureaucracy, to make it easier to build housing. it should not be so challenging when we commit to trying to build 140 units of family housing.

120 units of teacher housing. why is it taking so long? these two proposals will help cut that time down considerably, and it would mean getting people into affordable housing faster, and getting it built faster in san francisco. i want to thank everyone who is here with us today, not just the elected officials, but the advocates, and the workers who are out there every day fighting for more housing. together i know that we can make a difference at the ballot box this november. we will pass our affordable housing bonds. we will make it easier to build affordable and teacher housing in san francisco, and we will do it together. at this time, i want to introduce someone who has been a champion for affordable housing. many of the products, for example, -- projects, for example, in district five started long before i even became supervisor, and the challenges of trying to get

properties that are slated for 100% affordable housing built has been a very challenging one. we could add thousands of units just in district five if we can get these measures past, and the person to help us lead the way on those efforts is none other then the supervisor for that district, vallie brown. [cheers and applause]. >> thank you, mayor breed to, and everyone that is here today, all the housing advocates. it will take us all to make this happen. san francisco is in the midst of probably the most serious housing crisis that we have had that threatens our culture, and it also threatens our economy. sure, you know, san francisco, we have always had wealthy people that live here, but we are also a town of teachers, and artists, small business people, bartenders, and labor.

we are a working-class town, but the lack of affordable housing, more and more of our families seen san francisco cannot afford housing. so what do they do create they leave. this is our teachers, this is labor, this is people who just cannot afford housing, even if they have a rent controlled apartment, when they are growing their family, they usually leave because there is no options. there's no choices for them. keeping you working people in san francisco should also be a priority for us because it is their home. this charter amendment will shorten the time and lower the cost of building 100% affordable housing, and teacher housing. don't we want our teachers to live in our community? yes, absolutely. [applause]. >> when the teachers live in the community, they are much more invested, and they also, it

helps in being able to take care of their own families because they live close to their jobs. it will exempt qualifying housing projects from all discretionary review and appeals , and instead, apply a variety of mistral his for review. that is really important. we already do this for low income and moderate households that make up to $66,000 a year, and for one person and in a family of four, of $94,000 a year. this charter amendment would extend the same treatment for teacher housing, and housing that is affordable for the middle income households. it is so important to keep our middle income families and households in this city. who are middle income people? there are seasons many mobile drivers and a teacher.

there are two teachers, they are somebody who works for the city and a janitor. these are the people that we want to keep in our community, ending other and in other words, it also encouraged 100% affordable for housing for san francisco for working people. it is our middle class, it is our middle class that is also in danger of housing here, of no affordable housing for them, and it was very clear in 2014 when we passed prop k. that this was really important for the residents of san francisco. this connection between our housing crisis and our homeless crisis is pretty clear to me. our housing crisis also -- also is threatening and many other areas of our life in this city. if our teachers can't afford to live here, let alone raise their families in the city, it is pretty clear that we are threatens or we will have a threatening housing crisis that we need to address.

also, and we talked about this before, half of our drivers live outside of the city. when you think that they have to drive hours in to drive a bus, or they are sleeping in their cars because they can't afford this city, that is wrong. they are our frontlines people that work for the city for all of our social issues. they also -- we trust them to get us around and our children around the city. so this is something that we need to do. we need to build housing so people who work for the city can actually live here, like our many munimobile operators. also, when we don't think this way, when we don't think about everyone in the city and trying to keep middle-class and low income in the city, it actually hurts us all, we have to think of it that way. so working people make city life possible, and they make it desirable. when you go into your favorite restaurant or go get your hair

cut or your favorite bar, don't you want to make sure that the people you know can work there and that is because they can live in the community. they can live in the city. so we need to more choices. choice is so important. this isn't going to solve everything, thank you, but you are in the right place, this is city hall, lots of sharks. [laughter]. >> so this is one thing that we need to do. this many other things we need to do. we need to preserve affordable housing by buying existing buildings. we need to build housing, we need to have a dus, accessible dwelling units being built. there are so many things that we need to do to self this housing crisis, and i'm so happy that everybody is here with us to solve this. thank you very much. [cheers and applause]. >> now i want to introduce one

of our partners to help build 100% affordable housing, ladies and gentlemen, from mission mission housing, sam moss. [cheers and applause]. >> good morning, everybody. thank you, mayor breed and supervisors. thank you for coming here. affordable housing is hard enough to build without having to take ten years and loads a bureaucracy to do it. mission housing and myself, i'm really proud to be part of a movement that will ensure that high-quality affordable housing is built in every neighborhood of san francisco, because we live in the crisis of our time. it is time for every day people. and especially the leaders and supervisors at those neighborhoods to get on board and start helping solve this crisis. from st. francis would to the sunset, from the marina, it is time for telegraph hill, it is time for everyone to get on board and be part of solving

this crisis, because the mission and soma, and the bayview cannot do it on our own any longer. [applause]. >> i just want to think mayor breed for her leadership, and i'm excited to start building some housing. thank you. [applause]. >> thank you, sam. another one of our cosponsors and champions for getting more affordable housing built throughout the city includes the representative from district 11, supervisor safai. [applause]. >> thank you, mayor breed. i will be brief because i think we are all melting on the stage here. >> we are melting. >> i will be real fast. i just want to say that it is amazing how much the conversation has changed in the two years that i have been on the boards. mayor breed and i locked arms when she was on the board of supervisors, and we took on a

really difficult conversation about expanding the conversation of what is affordable. because parts of the city, sm was talking about, the need to do more always absorbed our middle and working-class families. the excelsior, the outer mission , the sunset, bayview hunter's point, these are parts of the city that we didn't think would ever be under assault in terms of major gentrification. but when homes in my district and excelsior go for $1.9 million, this city is no longer affordable. so the fact that we are putting legislation forward that not only expands the definition of what is affordable to include working and middle-class families, but speeds up the process, in two years, the cost of construction has gone up by 30%. every moment that we wait costs these projects more money, cost the taxpayers more money, and endangers losing more working

and middle-class families from san francisco because they have to leave, the can't live in the city, the can't access the affordable housing. i'm just go to wrap it up by saying we have neighborhood preference that mayor breed fought for, we accelerating the process by which we can go through the bureaucracy, we are increasing the funding, whether it is through additional surplus money we have, or the affordable housing bonds that we are going to fight for, we are doing every single thing that we can think about, and i just want to give kudos to mayor breed for doing things that a lot of people talked about, that are making happen in less than one here that she has been in office. congratulations to all that hauser his who have been fighting here. thank you mayor breed for your leadership, and we look forward to building affordable housing in the excelsior, outer mission, because me know we are next in line. thank you very much. >> thank you. we had one of our residents who

had planned to speak today, but unfortunately she couldn't make it. she is part of tenderloin housing clinic, and at this time , i would like to introduce randy shot to say a few words, since she was not able to make it. [applause]. >> you know, i will be even briefer because it is hot. i have to say, listening to mayor breed, i have a book out called "generation priced out" who gets to live a new urban america, and i recommend to all cities is one of the key strategies for affordability is to take all public land and converted to affordable housing. thank you for proving what should be done. i gave her a copy of my book. >> i haven't read it yet. >> i'm telling you, what is happening in san francisco around affordable housing is something that we all need to have done years ago. it doesn't make sense when we have supervisors here saying they only want affordable housing, but it can't be built in their districts because of the zoning. otherwise you are not really for it because it can't be built. so if we all agree that 100%

affordable housing, we all supported, they should be unanimous support in the board of supervisors for what the mayor has pronounced. let's make sure that happens. talk to your district supervisors about what is happening here. thank you. [applause]. >> thank you, randy. let me also just say thank you to a family who are here today who continue to fight on a regular basis to say yes in my backyard, yes to housing in san francisco in all neighborhoods. thank you so much for your advocacy. and now, at this time, i would like to introduce a member of the community college board college board, alex randolph. [applause]. >> thank you, mayor. i think the weather today is an indication that we will turning up the heat on affordable housing and making sure that we are building affordable housing here in san francisco. it is past due that we can no longer wait for affordable housing to be built here in san francisco. i want to thank the mayor, i

want to thank the supervisors for introducing this legislation , this critical legislation, and for inviting city college to be part of this press conference here today. the city college communities no stranger to the current housing crisis. we see first-hand every single day the impact it has on our college and our community. to get a better sense of what it actually does to our community and to actually see the data, we recently conducted a housing survey and discover there is a significant need for affordable housing for our hard-working faculty and staff at city college for affordable housing in san francisco. especially our entry-level faculty and staff, always known as freeway flyers because they come from all over the bay area to work and teach at city college, and they spend sometimes more times -- more time commuting to san francisco than actually teaching our students or holding office hours it is a critical need. we all know that our teachers

and educators are more effective if they are part of the community, in this charter amendment is an important and right step towards offering an affordable place to live for our workforce and allow san francisco and city college to continue to provide high quality education. our educators are the ones that are training our first responders, they are training our nurses, they are training our teachers, our future teachers. they are training our people who we do not want to see left behind in this new economy in san francisco. we need to make sure that when all of our teachers are about to retire, and our staff is near retirement age, that we continue to be able to recruit high-quality individuals at city college. that is no longer the case, unfortunately due to the high cost of housing and the inability for many of them to move to san francisco. so on behalf of city college and my colleagues and the vice president, i want to thank the mayor and all of you for doing this. we are here to strongly support

the charter amendment. thank you so much. [applause]. >> thank you. i want to thank all of you for being here today. i continue to say that i grew up in san francisco, and i watched as our cities changed, i watched as so many of my friends and family members, over the years, who could no longer afford to live here, leave because this city has not done what it should in terms of building more housing. everyone says, yes, i want more housing, yes, i want my kids to live here, yes, i want my teachers to live here, but as soon as we try and build in communities that traditionally have not had a lot of housing production, it turns into a completely different conversation. it is time that we move forward. it is time that we do what we say we want to do, make san francisco a safer, more affordable city for everybody.

with over 70,000 units in the pipeline as we speak, we are not doing enough to move forward. and just imagine what it would do for our housing prices, for access to affordable housing if we were able to get those 70,000 units built today. today starts today. let's get it done, let's get these measures past, and let's build more housing in san francisco. thank you. [cheers and applause] >> i have been living in san francisco since 1957. i live in this area for 42

years. my name is shirley jackson, and i am a retirement teacher for san francisco unified school district, and i work with early childhood education and after school programs. i have light upstairs and down stairs. it's been remodelled and i like it. some of my floors upstairs was there from the time i built the place, so they were very horrible and dark. but we've got lighting. the room seems lighter. they painted the place, they cemented my back yard, so i won't be worried about landscaping too much. we have central heating, and i

like the new countertops they put in. up to date -- oh, and we have venetian blinds. we never had venetian blinds before, and it's just cozy for me. it meant a lot to me because i didn't drive, and i wanted to be in the area where i can do my shopping, go to work, take the kids to school. i like the way they introduced the move-in. i went to quite a bit of the meetings. they showed us blueprints of the materials that they were going to use in here, and they gave us the opportunity to choose where we would like to stay while they was renovating. it means a lot. it's just that i've been here

so long. most people that enjoyed their life would love to always retain that life and keep that lifestyle, so it was a peaceful neighborhood. the park was always peaceful, and -- i don't know. i just loved it. i wanted to be here, and i stayed. shop and dine in the 49 promotes local businesses and challenges residents to do their shopping and dining within the 49 square miles of san francisco. by supporting local services within our neighborhoods, we help san francisco remain unique, successful, and vibrant. so where will you shop and dine in the 49?

>> my name is ray behr. i am the owner of chief plus. it's a destination specialty foods store, and it's also a corner grocery store, as well. we call it cheese plus because there's a lot of additions in addition to cheese here. from fresh flowers, to wine, past a, chocolate, our dining area and espresso bar. you can have a casual meeting if you want to. it's a real community gathering place. what makes little polk unique, i think, first of all, it's a great pedestrian street. there's people out and about all day, meeting this neighbor and coming out and supporting the businesses. the businesses here are almost all exclusively independent owned small businesses. it harkens back to supporting

local. polk street doesn't look like anywhere u.s.a. it has its own businesses and personality. we have clothing stores to gallerys, to personal service stores, where you can get your hsus repaired, luggage repaired. there's a music studio across the street. it's raily a diverse and unique offering on this really great street. i think san franciscans should shop local as much as they can because they can discover things that they may not be familiar with. again, the marketplace is changing, and, you know, you look at a screen, and you click a mouse, and you order something, and it shows up, but to have a tangible experience, to be able to come in to taste things, to see things, to smell things, all those things, it's very important that you do so.

>> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take

any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly

cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something

that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy

challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco.

>> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity.

>> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here

was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake.

>> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for

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