. >> good morning. the meeting will come to order welcome to the may 9th meeting of the public safety and neighborhood services. i am the chair of the committee. we expect to be joined. our clerk is john carol. i want to thank sfgovtv for staffing this meeting. >> please silence cell phones. your completed speaker cards

should be submitted to the clerk. items today will appear on the may 21st supervisor's agenda. >> please call the first a tem. >> a hearing to consider the premise-to-premise transfer of a type-21 off-sale general beer, wine and distilled spirits liquor license to dalda's inc. doing business as dalda's market. >> i am from the san francisco police department. they applied for a type-21 license. if approved they would be allowed to sell the beer, wine and distilled spirits. they are located in 176 which is a high crime area.

125.01, a high saturation area. tenderloin station has no opposition. they approve one sales service and consumption of the alcoholic beverages between 8:00 a.m. and 12 a each day of the week. the petitioner shall be ponce ie responsible for obtaining the area of litter adjacent to the premises. petitioner shall actively monitor the area under their control to prevent loitering as depicted on abc 253 form. no noise permitted or audible at any nearby residence. i would like to note the applicant may first the applicant has not agreed to the above listed recommended conditions. >> thank you. could we hear from the applica

applicant. >> mr. chair, supervisors. i am here today with my client who owns dalda's market at 200 eddy street. he is in the tenderloin neighborhood development committee building which is being rehabbed soon. there is a brand-new building across taylor street on the other corner, and through two or three year process, and it is in your pocket, i think i handed out the letter. it goes through the whole process. there were many, many public meetings. he is a community leader. when the north market cbd business district was formed in

2008 he was treasure until 2012. he got a certificate of honor in 2011 in recognition of volunteering in that tenderloin community. he is a fixture. his store is well loved. it is never a problem. tndc put him through rigorous screening. what the neighborhood wanted was a larger healthier community market. you will hear from a couple of persons who will testify today but we will talk about his standing in the community and his commitment to build a larger community market with healthier food for the neighborhood. dalda's itself at 200 is well managed without problems since

2007. he was a manager at a local seven 11 store. he knows how to operate a store. i have a client across the street b be piano. i said i am working on daldas. i love that guy. he loans people on the last of the month because they don't have money to the last day. what we are asks is that the full board make a determination under california business professions code 239.58 that public need and convenience of the citizens of san francisco would be served by allowing transfer of the liquor license to the new location at 168-186 eddy street. we thank you for your consideration of this request. if you have any questions my client is here and i would love to answer anything you have got.

>> i don't see any comments or questions from colleagues. i am trying to wrap my head around the conditions that were recommended but not accepted. >> it is funny. i went to the abc. have you heard from planning? what about conditions. i haven't gotten the conditions from the police. i said i will put it on the record my client is fine with the conditions. typically the way it works as you know, it is the abc that sets the conditions. they will, i think is alu will send it up to the alcohol beverage control and she will hand them to us. we will sign, they will go in the file along with the pcn requirement needed. there are certain thinks needed. one is pcn and signed conditions. we are fine with the conditions.

we just the first time i ever saw them was the other day when i got an e-mail from john carol and i went down to talk to the investigator at abc. >> i want to add a couple things. thank you, supervisors. we have been working in the neighborhood community for almost 12 years, and we got an opportunity to set up the store which is staff is here, and this is our third year in helping with the produce and some having healthier options, but right now we have larger scale, more convenient for the local residents which is more option of produce and healthier need to have, and adding alcohol which is we want to have one stop

shopping for the convenience of the customers. then in the jurisdictions, i was asking mr. hark. at 8:00. we open at 7:00. we have been working with the pilot program started two years ago through cbd to sell alcohol before 7:00 and close at midnight which is already in place so if you guys can help us to start at 7:00 a.m. to midnight, we would appreciate it for the convenience of the customers when they stop. they have one stop shopping for everything. thank you. >> if i could add. i believe this market was the first market to join the coalition of healthy markets. their current conditionsal them to sell alcohol until 2:00 a.m. every day.

they voluntary relinquished that back to 12:00 a.m. now they start at 7-m. they can sell airline bottles. they don't want to sell airline bottles because that is purchased by alcoholics and trashes the streets. my client has shown good faith that he really does want to build a healthier environment in the tenderloin. he is the perfect person to open this market. >> thank you. the pd would like to come up and clarify. >> thank you for letting me come back up. aou doesn't set the conditions. they are set by abc. we make the recommendations based on our investigation into the premise. i faxed these on march 13th of this year. they have had the conditions since march 13th.

i don't know what the hold up is getting those signed or agreed upon. when they send that over they say 7:00 a.m. or 1:00 a.m. we go from there. it is a negotiation. we figure out wha what makes see and is best for the city. i haven't her correspondence from them and that is why we are here with no signed conditions. >> it appears there is a disagreement. >> it sounds like there is. it would have been nice to know we could have hashed this out before we came here today. >> it is unusual for us to have an application where the conditions have not been approved. i understand we have been pushing to get these before the committee within the 90 day requirement that my colleagues on the board want us to deal with them. this is unusual. clerk carol. >> one quickky t quick question.

your first condition indicates the hours 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. was that 12:00 a.m.? >> my apologies. yes. >> i will correct that. >> thank you both. supervisor walton. >> you asked my questions in my follow-up. i wanted clarification. it seems like the discrepancy of the start time to sell alcohol. >> supervisor stephanie. >> do we know if district 6 supervisor's position on this? >> we were aware, my office was aware of this sort of weirdness around not having agreed upon conditions and we did mention it to the district 6 supervisor this might need continued to get this worked out. >> one more thing. when you mention the word that the airline bottles or whatever

are purchased by alcoholics. we talk about words matter. there are a lot of alcoholics in recovery. more appropriate is those suffering from addiction. it has a negative connotation. we are trying to de stigmatize mental illness and substance abuse disorders. the word alcoholic has a negative connotation when there are a lot of alcoholics recovering. it is important that words matter when we are talking about these things that are so sensitive to what is happening in the city and county of san francisco. >> thank you. now, we will go to public comment. are there any members of the public to testify? i have four cards. i will call people. michael, alexander and john and anybody else who wants to speak

on your right side of the room. speakers have two minutes. state your first and last name and speak direct three t to leoo directly to the microphone. no applause is permitted. in the interest of time speakers are to avoid repetition of previous statements. good morning. >> good morning. thank you. i am shelly dire. i am the program supervisor with the neighborhood development corporation and i am to speak in support of dalda's moving to the new market space. they have been a healthy corner store since 2015 and have been successful in the program. some of the big successes over the past few years. they are not selling any alcohol on credit. they reduced the selling area of

alcohol by 20% since they have been in the program. they are a true staple in the community. they are participating in community engagement such as every first friday a better lower eddy street campaign event. the staff and bill is very supportive of the event supporting us in taste tests or community engagement. they are a staple. many residents wanted to see dalda's moving to the new space. we are excited about them move goes to that space. they have a lot of healthy signage to promote the healthy items available in the corner store. they are an outstanding participant and have two phases every design. this have a refrigeration case selling produce.

they are distributing 1600 units of produce every month and we would love to see them continue to contribute in that capacity. >> next speaker. >> good morning, thank you for the opportunity to speak. i am gabriel. i live and work and study here for 20 years. i am a business own bener and part of the healthy program and lead consultant. in 2015 we developed the criteria for stores in the program. one of the criteria i remember was reputation of the store and business owner in the community. since then he has contributed to make it bigger and better for the store owners. i really support that his license is approved. the news when the store in the

new space i understand the stays he gave to alcohol sales will be 10% less the space will be bigger for healthy food and affordable prices. with low margins we need to understand the store to be sustainable and profitable. thank you. >> next speaker. >> hello. i am john mccormick. i work with healthy corner store coalition. i want to speak on behalf of bill. as you all know, the tenderloin does not have a full access grocery store. there isn't an abundance of healthy food in the neighborhood. the corner store coalition seeks to change that. we have five corner stores in the coalition that are in the

tenderloin, and dalda's is one of the corner stores that is the best community serving, one of the best in terms of keeping the produce fresh, and, you know, i am not just saying that. i go in there a couple times each week. i see how bill interacts with the community. i see how his staff interact with the community. it is positive and warm. him and his staff are sort of like in the community and having this legal license transfer across the street would continue to add more of that healthy produce and more of that great access to vegetables and fruits that we strive to get to the neighborhood. that much stronger so we are hoping that this application gets approved to increase the health of the neighborhood.

thank you for your time. >> thank you. next speaker. >> i am alexander goldman. planning and policy manager at neighborhood development. the healthy corner store is part of the space that they are moving from. tnc is for a while hoping to expand access to healthy food in the tenderloin. that is why we are working with the coalition. as part of building the new building at eddy and taylor where dalda's is moving we talked to over 200 residents in the community, did interactive surveys. it was a great example of community planning. what the community said they wanted a place to buy healthy affordable food. we had a town hall kind of to

summarize and get more feedback. at the town hall a bunch of community members started chanting bill, bill, bill. it was just like a remarkable example what the best of community planning can be and the best of community development can be. it is a testament to dalda's presence in the neighborhood. we have looked at the financial agreements and agree that the store would not be financially viable without the sale of alcohol. we want to limit the amount of substances in the community, however, this is part of doing business. we are really happy to support the transfer. the liquor license i am excited to get more healthy produce in the community. >> next speaker. >> i am dan williams. i am across the street and down a bit on taylor from bill and

dalda's. i spend a lot of time there. it feels like 24 hours a day at times. a lot of my time there is in the evening to the night. i can definitely speak to those tough operations around the alcohol sales. bill is not only a model entrepreneur, a model corner store operator, a model employer, but he is a great steward of his space and i think we all know on eddy and placings in the tenderloin the sidewalk space is challenging. the way bill managed not only the inside of the store but the street around if store is helpful as my patrons go in and out. from one entrepreneur to another, this man needs raised up and held as a model. just one neighbor to another, he

is a fantastic person to have. i am absolutely in support of this. >> next speaker. >> i also have the overhead. the corner store analysis was done in 2007, and i was part of the 33 person advisory committee. i am michael nolty the executive director for district 6. the site is in the north to market special use district, which is the planning code, which governs is alcohol

licenses that are off sale alcohol licenses. there was mentioned that the eddy and taylor development retail space there was 40% of the people that were surveyed wanted to have this store there when they were surveyed, what would go in that location. again, we are talking about the eddy and taylor street project. back in 2008, gavin newsome created the ordinance and i want to point out the owner was recognized by the mayor for being an outstanding citizen and

community - community partner. they are recognized for the north to market community benefit district. >> thank you. any other members of the public who would like to speak on this item? >> i just wanted to say we passed a thing that outlawed menthol in cigarettes. it is used to open up people's throats, vicks for a long time is used to open up kids' lungs when they have trouble breathing. at the moment that is not a product we can access when we were a kid. that is why these stores are

more important to be open when we need alcohol around for things like, you know, finding alternatives to that. there are other things that can be used. things like menthol have done a lot to keep people healthy with asthma and other things aggravated by smog. iit is a a problem in the commuy people not being able to get vicks vaporub. this is an alternative to get this in the area that needs it. >> any other members of the public to speak on this item? >> 50% of me wants to approve it and 50% of me does not want to. people are addicted to alcohol.

it is perpetuated excesses drinks in the neighborhood. by the same response, with the services that every department in the city wants to provide you can't provide to the people who need help because the homeless are out in the street. that is why i am striving to build the apartment houses instead of navigation centers. you can only stay there 60 days. then you are right back on the street. after you experience that transaction several times you realize you are wasting your time and you don't want to go there. by building those two towers like i said where you house 1926 people who you are trying to help, they are building the apartments where you can give them services nowhere to see

them because they are housed. you don't have to run around like a chick wenwith his head cut off trying to find them. the other 50% of me he has a constitutional right to have a license to sell liquor like in the areas that are predominantly white that don't have this problem. the neighborhood has that question before you today. it is a decision where you have to weigh both ends of the scale, the intoxication of the most alcohol people, 99cents thinking they are getting a good deal or his constitutional right to have a liquor license to sell. >> any other members of the public to speak on the item before i close public comment.

public comment is now closed. soon per visor walton. >> i want to ask the police department and store owner if we can get a guarantee these conditions will be worked out prior to the alcohol sales. >> we absolutely agree this is the only thing my client was requesting was an hour earlier time. i will commit to the alu and inspector we can work it out. we have no problems with the other things. we have shown good faith. we have backed off what is allowed under the current license to take it back two hours. we will work it out, and i would say in support of the abc, i

have worked there 30, 40 years down there and i have never seen it busier. this town is crazy with churning of alcohol licenses, they are swapped. i met with gertie today. they are probably sitting somewhere. i will commit right now to living with whatever the two of us agree to. hopefully we can agree to it this week. >> we will be able to agree on something this week. we will get it taken care of and get it signed. as long as abc is in the office and allows the transaction to happen. we will come to an agreement on the hours.

>> colleagues. it is unusual not to have agreed upon conditions by this point as we are considering this. i think we have a few options. we could continue this for two weeks until the 23rd. i am not seeing colleagues having any desire not to make findings of public convenience a necessity. i am hung up on the paperwork. we can continue to the 23rd and by that time it sounds like people think it would be worked out with agreed upon conditions and we could make the finding. we could, i suppose, forward without recommendation to the full board and assuming that in fact these issues have been worked out, the full board could pass the resolution finding the

means of necessity. do those seem reasonable to the own? all right. i don't know, i would probably continue to the 23rd would be my inclination. it is not strong. i am happy to be persuaded. >> to the applicant would a two week continuance be a burden in any way? >> again, it might be a burden more to the persons moving to the store because they get a 20% discount on products. i think the tndc hopes to get this. the people are moving in, trying to get the ground floor done. a two week delay would be $4,000 worth of benefit to that

building they wouldn't have in two weeks. if we could, send it up unrecommended with a notice if it is not -- if the conditions aren't signed prior to the 2 21t when it goes to the full board take it off th the calendar. we will work it out this way. >> i want to mention one thing. the hours we are recommending are only limiting the sales of alcohol. they could open at 6:00 a.m. and sell the produce and milk and cheese. we are just limiting the alcohol from 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m. we are not preventing them from operating. >> i tend to think that is reasonable and this should be worked out before it gets to us. i think we should continue this for a couple weeks. >> i am going to make a motion

we continue this item until the may 23rd regular meeting. can we take that without objection? >> all right. we have done that. thank you. mr. clerk, are there any more items before us today? >> clerk: no further business. >> all right. then we are adjourned. thank you.

. >> chair fewer: good morning. the meeting will come to order. i am joined by supervisors catherine stefani and raphael mandelman. madam clerk, do you have any announcements? [agenda item read]. >> chair fewer: thank you very much, madam clerk. can you please call items 1 through 4 together? >> clerk: yes. item one is a resolution approving the community development block grant program and authorizing the mayor to

apply for, accept and expend the cdbc for a combined total of $23.9 million. item 2 is a resolution authorizing the emergency -- [agenda item read] [agenda item read].

>> chair fewer: thank you very much. and today, we have brian chiu from the mayor's office of housing and community development. >> good morning, supervisors. i'm here to ask for your approval for the accept and expend resolution as we do each we are. we come to you, requesting to expend and apply funds that come from hud. as you see before you, we have four separate funding streams. the community block development fund is our largest funding stream. a portion goes for funding housing facilities. another portion goes to community-based facilities. this is for fiscal year 19-20, which is the fifth year of our five-year multiyear funding sickle. we have moneys from home which

provides for money -- which provides for money from new construction. we have our work order to the department of homelessness and supportive housing, for shelter and rapid housing, and operating expenses for long-term housing for people living with h.i.v. just a reminder, as i mentioned, that this is the last year of our five-year funding cycle. when we come to you next year, it will be the first year of our now three to five-year funding cycle. we've been happy that we've been able to support organizations very consistently over the past five years. we are planning to put out a comprehensive request for proposals likely at the end of august this year. that request for proposals will not only include moneys for

2021 from cdbg funds and hopa funds, it will also include the opportunity for us to repurpose or general fund dollars which have come to us through the board over many years or through mayoral enhancements. so just a heads up that we've been able to remain very consistent. this is the time where we will be reexamining our investments. as you know, we've done a number of different community forums as well as focus groups. we want -- this is the time that we'll be able to shift and be able to prioritize, especially in those areas in which we've heard multiple comments. just to let you know that in june, we will be doing a report out to the community with a summary of all that we've heard from our neighborhood forums as well as the surveys and the focus groups, and in july,

we'll have another public meeting where we'll be reporting out on our proposed strategies so that the public will be able to respond to both before we release our request fore proposals at the -- for proposals at the end of august, and we're happy to share any of that with your offices before that comes up. but in the meantime, i'm hear to request your permission to accept these funds and expend these funds and we will include that in our packet to hud, and we will submit that by june 15 so we can get that back to the community. >> chair fewer: thank you, mr. chiu. there is no b.l.a. report. is there any questions? no questions. let's open it up for public comment. good morning, mr. wright. >> sfgov, overhead, please.

this federal law grant has got contract agreements where in order to get this money, you are not supposed to discriminate and violate the rights of the people you're using this money for. for the past several decades you've been in violation of the section of the housing production. section 33413 of the community development law reads at least 15% of all new or rehabilitated dwelling units within the plan area which is the city and county of san francisco by the private or private entities or persons another the agency shall be -- other than the agency shall be available for housing to persons or families

of low or very moderate low-incomes. okay. not less of the 40% of the dwelling units to be available to persons and families of very low and low or moderate income shall be available at the affordable housing costs to very low and low-income households. you've got a pattern of every time you get past the point of acceptance, you set the requirement rate above the income of the very low-income and low-income bracket people. you have an average where you start off at 60% of the median, which is $48,400. that means that everybody that's below that range is not able and not included in the housing opportunity and also not included in the inclusionary rule that everybody voted for. >> chair fewer: thank you, mr. wright. any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is now closed.

mr. chiu. in light of what mr. wright just said in public comments, i am wondering if you could clarify the income levels that this big block grant actually covers. >> so on the services side, we -- the priority needs to focus on extremely low, very low, low-income, which is roughly 30%, 50%, 80% of area median income. on the housing side as mr. wright has mentioned, we do have that continuing challenge of being able to finance affordable housing for people that are, for example, below 50% of the area median income. a large reason the portion is set at that rate is because

that's where we can drawdown low income tax credits. as you know, for those precious units that we can set aside for people where they only have to pay 30% of their income, right now, we've prioritized them really for homeless individuals and work through coordinated entry through director kositski's office. it's a continuing discussion. i kn -- discussion i know that we've had with man of your offices, how can we lower our construction costs to be able to serve the population?

>> chair fewer: i think what we're talking about, mr. chiu, is housing for the working poor. >> i acknowledge the validity of mr. wright's statement. it's a problem that we're really trying to address with creative financing issues. >> chair fewer: yes. it's probably a longer discussion and bigger discussion. >> yes. >> chair fewer: okay. seeing no comments and no comments from my -- mr. wright, i think you can have a private conversation with mr. chiu, but public comment is now closed. thank you very much, mr. chiu. so i'd like to move this to the full board with a positive recommendation. thank you very much, and thank you, mr. chiu and mr. wright. madam clerk, can you please call items number 5 and 6 together? >> clerk: yes. [agenda item 5 read]

[agenda item 6 read] >> chair fewer: thank you very much. i think we'll bring nicolle avril, the director of park and recs today. >> good morning, supervisors. i'm very pleased to be presenting the india basin park project and the work on the project to you today. in 2014, the city acquire property in the hunters point neighborhood. the development of 900 innes

will transform a waterfront property adjoining 900 innes is the existing india basin shoreline park and open space. the proposed plan combines the india basin and open space into one ten acre property and is the midpoint of the 1.5 mile long india basin shoreline which is comprised of seven lots to this end, mayor -- lots. to this end, mayor ed lee and london breed helped ensure the

development of newly renovated shoreline parks. to design the park, over two dozen outreach meetings were held. the inspired park design includes a historic garden walk which follows the original 1948 shoreline, an adult play area with fitness areas, the marine way which terminates in a gravel beach, a pier out into the bay with a floating dock, and an a.d.a. accessible boat lunch, the sage slopes, and the boat yard, which was originally a boat building yard for the scout schooner. the boat yard will also feature a concession building selling food and beverages by bayview

based businesses, an a.d.a. accessible garden walk, the shop, tidal marks, wetlands, and a class 1 bike path. i should note that we would prefer to do this all at once, but funding is not appropriate, so we will do this in two phases. unfortunately, the industrial activities noted with 900 innes' has left the property a brown field that contains upwater soils and sentiments. the 900 innes remediation project is thus the first phase of the india basin park project. the remediation project proposes to cleanup and restore contaminated soil and sediment, including the contaminated

marine debris and concrete. on land, the surface will be scraped down 3 feet. the tidal areas will be dredged to 5 feet. finally, the remediation work will lay groundwork for things such as site planning. during the predesign engineering phase of the project, the city will conduct a survey of the surface soils to determine if there are any differentials in rao activity that would determine if there are any potential radio tiacti

material. the cleanup and development of this site provides a tremendous opportunity to address environmental contamination and historical blight left by historical industrial uses while provides workforce development issues to help address social equity issues. in recognition of this, a key goal of the project is also to serve as an anchor for equitiable and inclusive economic growth. we've greated the equitiable park development plan. another central component of this plan is job creation, workforce development and other small business enterprise support by includes initiatives among many others, which includes partnering with

hunters park families, and bayview business owners who support recruitment of local employees for local workforce development. we plan to partner with young community developers, project level, urbani alchemy, and p.r.i. the park project is committed to ensuring that existing residents will have access to the park through initiatives such as free shuttle services between the public housing and third street. as importantly, given that pedestrians -- excuse me -- given that pedestrians are the most vulnerable users of the streets, the project includes traffic lights and beautifully designed crosswalks that put people first and prioritize local daily access.

given that the city has lived across from this vacant derelict site for two decades, and has been involved in the community planning since 2015, we want to begin the project so the city can begin to enjoy the waterfront as well as city the city's commitment to the development of a world class park. a major goal of this component is ensuring that the bayview-hunters point proud history is reflected in the art and cultural programming in india basin program. the overall india basin project budget including acquisition, community engagement, planning, design, land and water he remediation work is approximately $120 million. this is similar in cost, scope, and scale to the tunnel top park being constructed in the presidio and significantly less than the cost of similar waterfront park projects in new york, seattle, and los angeles.

it's proposed to be funded through a mix of local, private, public, state, and federal sources. on that note, i'm very pleased to be presented to you today a grant of $25 million from the john pritzker fund to fund the india basin park project. this has been cultivated over two years. funding will be used to support the following: remediation, the equitiable park development plan and interim activation, schematics, and construction. the gift will be made to the department for remediation and construction, to the trust for

public land who will manage the process in partnership with the land department. we believe that this initial leadership gift will be a catalyst allowing us to raise an additional 25 to $30 million in the next two years to pay for phase one and phase two. i should note that we have a pending grant for remediation from prop 1 funding. i should also note that our current budget of $11 million for remediation is very conservative and includes an ample contingency for unforeseen conditions. also this winter, in february,

the recreation and parks department was awarded $4,998,000 from the san francisco clean water prevention and restitution measure or measure 9-aa. measure aa is administered by the san francisco bay restoration authority and provides funding for the nine county funding of bay line projects. this will be added to the $2 million to the quality improvement funding that we've received as well as $1.8 million in city funding to support the remediation activities described earlier. while these significant grand funds are paramount with respect to moving this project forward, the most important part is our partnership with the community.

this project cannot and will not succeed without it. the following individuals and organizations have expressed support for the india basin park project. and with that, i conclude my presentation. thank you. >> chair fewer: can we please mar hear from the b.l.a.? >> good morning, chair fewer and the supervisors. severin campbell from the budget legislative analyst's office. this would go towards the $11 million for phase one of the remediation of the 900 innes street site. we do show the budget on table 1, page 4 of our report. part of the budget includes in addition to the $5 million

grant, the $1.2 million from the $25 million grant from the pritzker family fund. and we do recommend approval. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. any questions? supervisor mandelman? >> supervisor mandelman: thank you very much, chair fewer. we've been considering the capital plan here at the board of supervisors which currently has a $255 million bond next year, and it occur to see me that if the -- occurs to me if the cost of one park is $125 million and that's likely, construction costs being what they are and project delivery and delay, i'm curious how certain you are that the total

bill is going to be $120 million. but i'm also curious to how this fits into other park needs. i was wondering if you could talk a little bit about that $120 million total, your confidence around being able to fund half the park, half the construction costs through private philanthropy, and how this park relates to other capital needs around the city. >> sure. with respect to the $120 million cost estimate. we received a cost estimate from morton lee cost estimators, and it came in at $70 million. so we have added ample cost development to 2022, and the phase two construction to 2024, the midpoint of construction. we're estimating into those

times. >> supervisor mandelman: and have our cost estimators been tracking with actual cost effect over the past few years? >> they've sometimes come in above and sometimes come in below. you make a good point. they more often come in below. we will now be able to enter our schematic design phase at which point we will be able to do a more accurate cost estimation and design if need be. >> supervisor mandelman: how comfortable are you going to be able to get this one done with private philanthropy? >> many of our parks are funded through private philanthropy.

this is the largest park project that we've done in a century, since mclaren park. we do believe -- well, all of our parks are necessary to the well-being of the neighborhoods in which they're built, we believe this area has been historically underserved, in need of something this important. we also see this as a way to provide economic opportunity, so we believe that the economic impact of this park will actually outway in the long run the investment that we're making in this park, and so that's equally important to us. and some of that $120 million is going to fund those initiatives that we talked about. >> supervisor mandelman: and i am in no way questioning the importance of this park, the necessity of it, and i am

supporting it. i would just imagine that we may be needing, and appropriately, to send more public dollars to this than we're currently anticipating, and i want to make sure going forward that we have that. so how does in particular park fit in overall -- what else is on your list in terms of other park projects around the city that need to get done? >> i should probably let the director of our capital planning, who is not here today, speak on that, i work on two projects, including the india basin project, and they're projects that have different financing strategies and a very large partnership component, so that's really kind of my area of expertise. >> supervisor mandelman: cool. thank you. >> i apologize for not having a better answer. >> chair fewer: supervisor mandelman, if you wouldik