to the birthing area on the side of the building, as well. >> right. i see that where the two boats would be. i'm assuming the size of the boats for the st. francis and the older boat, the phoenix. okay, so that is not unusual. you have other leases when you are charging for the space. >> absolutely. >> so the old station 35 is on peers? >> correct. >> so the red area that you have there, the dilapidated. , we will pay to remove that, right. >> correct. >> so that is not -- that will be gone. >> and we are paying for that? >> yes. >> and then the area to the right of fire station 35, there's kind of what looks like

a finger where the ambulance bay will be landing, there is currently a peer there that we have to tear down, right? >> right. >> he gets shown in this slide. >> that is a better slide. >> that one shows their, the removed area of the south pier, and you see it underneath where the new ramp is going to connect to the embarcadero, and if you look at that wedge of area that is south of there, that is the new observation deck that is public access areas,. >> right. we will be removing the south finger. , we will pay for that, then we are removing the area of the south pier, we'll pay for that, too. and then the one story shed there, that finger pier that sticks out, we will pay for that , too? >> correct. all of the project costs are being paid through the 2014

easter bond money. the port is not contributing to any of the project costs. >> have you ever charge any other tenant to remove appear? >> oh, yeah,. the one that i can point to most readily, because it is under construction now, and it is located near here is the downtown ferry terminal located near the ferry building. it is an expansion of the existing terminal. it is under construction. they removed that. that used to hold sinbad's if you are familiar with that restaurant. >> right. >> as well as, you know, that hole. , and then they are constructing a new plaza that will also be used for emergency staging. they are covering the project

costs. >> so the historic fire station that you have on the screen, it looks like there are piers underneath them. what is the condition of the substructure? will be have to repair that as well? >> where the engine sits, my understanding is that was reconstructed about ten years ago, i believe. i think it was around 2009. those costs were paid for by the fire department, so i think that area, that portion of it is in good shape. yes, i can tell you that let's say the north side of the building, that area is in quite poor shape, and if there is a need to rebuild that area, again , as i mentioned, that is

where there is potential for additional rent credits to be granted later, but that's not part of the project now, those repairs to the existing facility they are not part of the project >> but we are responsible for them? >> correct. >> okay. so chief, do we know what the cost of all of this is outside of, take the new floating station, what is going to be the cost of the department for the tear down of these three and the reconstruction of the historic fire station, and what are we going to be using the higher -- the historic fire station for? >> i am going to have assistant deputy chief rivera come up and do some intel on that. >> good evening, commissioners, chief, jamie, assistant deputy chief tony rivera. i don't have a cost breakdown on the cost of demolition for.

twenty-two, the shed. , in. twenty-four, the other finger pier that is going to be demoed, but there was an evaluation done prior to the condition of the existing pier as a whole, and i know that the north section will eventually have to be reinforced at some point. i believe we had approximately a million-dollar quote to repair that area, so under this new plan, the northern part of -- next to the firehouse will not be used at all. it will just be, kind of, fenced off, and we won't be using that area until we get repairs. >> and if i can, the pier removal was part of the project scope. >> correct. all the current construction and demolition for this whole

project will be paid for by easter 2014. >> okay. >> but will be paid for by money allocated to the fire department >> yes, sir. >> yeah. i guess my question is, what are we going to be using the old historic site for? >> the historic firehouse will be used to store our turnouts. fire engine, engine 35, and we will also place the wash extractor for the turnouts in that apparatus bay area. because the new station is going to have a cooking facility, a communications room, so we are not going to be utilizing all of the area of the historic firehouse, other than still having the engine 35 deploy from the historic firehouse, which is the reason we have the gangway coming from the new floating

station directly to the rear of the apparatus pay for quicker deployment of firefighters. >> okay. there was a mention earlier about a separate site agreement with the port that we charge them for. what did we charge the port for? >> i believe we have -- >> let's bring our numbers man up. >> thank you, chief. >> good evening. we currently have a work order with the port. the port currently pays for the officer of the fireboat, the pilot, and the engineer. those are three positions that are staffed 24 hours a day. there is an allocation for dry docking repairs of the fireboat on an annual basis. in addition, they paid for some fire prevention personnel for plan review, but also the court fire marshal, and the dedicated fire inspector for the port. >> okay. we don't charge the port, for example, there was a fire on. thirty-nine just today, coincidentally. we don't charge the port for our

fire prevention services? >> no, we do not. >> okay. thank you. >> do we know -- i know there has been a lot of time gone into this, but i also understand there is an issue with this particular area because once fouled weather comes, we have to move our boats. is that still the issue? >> that is correct. during a king tide or a certain wave height, the current policy is actually to move our fireboat to pier one at treasure island, but now that we have actually done some remodelling two. twenty-six, we'll be able to move the fireboat his over two. twenty-six. >> which is right next door? >> yes, sir. >> that will be a better response time. >> absolutely. correct. >> is that with the lease with. twenty-six? >> yes, sir. we did some structural upgrades, we also added birthing for all

of the boats, and we upgraded the electrical service so that we could have sure power connected to all of our fireboat his. >> okay. the other issue with this particular location is that most of the calls, as i understand that we respond to, are between 39 and lands and. i know we have only part of the city that is being constructed south of that, so we're not sure what will happen, but this is not an ideal situation -- it is not an ideal location for the surf and rescue team, or the marine unit, is it? >> i think that would have to be answered by someone in operations, but i will add that this new floating fire facility station will have the capacity, not only to birth all three of our current fireboat his, but we can actually birth an additional rescue boat and a dive boat, and

two jet skis, so we are going to have a lot more capacity, and a lot more maritime firefighting tools at this new facility than what we currently have, and i think in response to a lot of the development that will occur in the southeast part of the city, we will have a much faster response. i know that every time there is a big game at the giants stadium , that we do get a lot of calls for kayakers down, and we currently rely on one of the large fireboat to respond, we will now have jet skis responding to those incidents. >> does the new station resolve the foul weather problem that we have, or will we still have the need to move the boats? >> we will still have to move the boats, but i believe that, per our findings, there was only going to be one or two times per year which we will have to move the boats. >> okay.

i just have a couple more questions. so one does the rent start? does it start when the new station is there, or how does that -- >> yeah, yeah, it will start -- the rent commencement will be, i believe it is on certificate of occupancy of the new facility, after construction is done. >> chief, do we have rent budgeted for this? i know that the mayor has asked as to reduce our budget, so it is almost like we are in a negative situation. >> what i can say is i spoke with the mayor directly about this, and we worked with the port on this, and it is, just as

mr. hurley said, will not have to pay anything for 15 years, basically it has already been covered, or will be covered in the work that we are doing at 26 >> right. >> nothing is coming out of our pocket. >> but i have a similar concern that the commissioner did because it allows for a market rate rent at a certain point, every ten years, and so i'm just wondering, i know that it is set by the port commission, but that could be anything with the way rents are going in san francisco is there a way we can cap that? >> it just seems to be an ambiguous number. if i were a lawyer advising my client, i would not tell them to sign that portion of it. >> what i can say is that i am confident that we can work with the port on that in the future.

i have no doubt that we can do that, and i know that the mayor wants us to do that. yes. again, i am in support of this, i hear what you are saying and your concerns, but i'm confident that we will be able to work on that in the future. >> and what about the seawall? i understand there is going to be -- there was a ballot measure for the seawall and it did pass. >> correct. >> at least an initial allocation for studies and so forth. i think the total project cost for the seawall improvements is in the billions, i believe. i think that initial bond was about $400 million, which is a big chunk of money. there is language in the m.o.u. about the seawall, you know, i

haven't been -- we have a big seawall team that is working now on -- and studying the conditions of the seawall and assessing where the initial set of improvements might need to be made. to my month -- to my knowledge, this location is not, you know, we don't have immediate plans or , you know, anything foreseeable to rebuild the seawall right there in such a way that it would disrupt fire department operations at this location, but -- >> the question was more along the lines of, if there is money for a seawall, and there is clearly portions of our construction anticipated that that seawall were far station 35 is, is there money to pay for that substructure? i know that will be really expensive, and i know that those substructures of the piers haven't been touched and 100 years. >> right. >> that is an interesting and

probably a good suggestion. i mentioned earlier that, you know, we've got language in the m.o.u. that talks about working cooperatively to identify funding sources, so that is the kind of potential funding source you know, it is not coming out of the harbour fund, per se, but that's additional bond funding, so that may be, you know, there may be the ability to apply some of those funds -- if you are going to be rebuilding the seawall, you know, you probably need to rebuild the adjacent structures in order for the whole thing to be usable. so i think that is a good potential source. again, for those future repairs if they are needed, or when they are needed. >> is this the only fire station that the fire department doesn't own?

do we know? >> do we not own 39? fifty-one? chief rivera? >> i'm back. i think that the only fire station we currently do not own is station 51 located in the presidio, and furthermore, station 48 was recently moved, or couple years ago, moved to a temporary modular housing, but we do have plans on housing them in a new facility, which will be provided by i and the future development. >> the station that is going to be floating, that will be property of the fire department? >> yes. >> okay. so the only part that is not property is the fire station 35,

the new land around it and the substructure that would be reinforced. >> correct. that is owned by the port. >> okay. it seems like this thing is pretty baked. i understand you are supported valve this, chief, and the best part about this is the one line on page 3 that says we can get out of it in 30 days notice. that is my favorite part -- favorite part of this lease. as an advocate for the san francisco fire department, that is my favorite line in all of this. >> you are a lawyer, i understand. >> i am a lawyer, and i have sued the port, i understand the substructure of these ports, and i understand how bad and dilapidated they are, but i also think, as an evolving department , this may not be the best location. i love the fact that 35 floats, too. >> the new 35 floats, but that

being said, is this commission even voting on this? >> no. >> chief, if you have the support, if you support this thing, then i support it, but i love that one line. [laughter] >> i want you to know that. >> i can appreciate that. thank you. [laughter] >> thank you. >> his jamie is jamie your first name. >> james, but i go by jamie. >> what is your last name? >> hurley. >> thank you for coming today. >> you'll be happy to note, there is no security deposit either. >> i saw that. if the thing falls into the debate, they will not get it anyway. [laughter] -- if the thing falls into the bay, they will not get it anyway [laughter]. >> thank you very much, commissioners. >> thank you, mr. president. thank you, mr. hurley for your presentation. it is eye-opening. i appreciate your being here,

and i want to thank everyone who participated in hammering out this m.o.u. i understand a lot of the questions that were posed by my fellow commissioner, and i think it sounds very good. i understand why it is only 15 years, because you can't make an arrangement like this in perpetuity because things are going to change over time, so a 15 year period -- >> it is actually 50. >> a 50 year period not changing is very good. >> you can get out of it and 30 days. [laughter] >> i shudder thinking of the

circumstances under which that might be necessary. [laughter]. >> it means that half of the city is in the bay. so 50 years, i think it is very good. it can't be forever. i was interested, however to learn that the 50,000 square feet was land and water. so when you made your statement, that was very helpful. i noticed that we have two documents, one that was in our packet, and then one that was here on the dais as we arrived. other than what you were talking about, comparing the two documents, trying to ascertain the difference between the two, and i see that there is schedule one, the national flood insurance program, and since i could not both listen to the conversation and read this legal document, at the same time, can

you please give us a summary of what this is? >> i'm probably not the right person to do that. it is something that, you know, it is disclosure we include in all of our leases, you know, so the two documents that you have, i think are essentially the same the one that you got today is the execution copy, but i don't think it includes -- i think there are several exhibits there that are probably not included. i'm certainly happy to provide those to your staff in short order so they can provide them to you. >> that would be helpful so we have all of the background information. >> certainly. >> i also noticed that some things that were highlighted in the original document were not highlighted -- >> those were things that had been agreed to, but were new in

the last version, so now they are in the final version. >> very good. now has the port being getting increased monies from the land that used to be under redevelopment? i'm thinking about south beach harbor, i am a former redevelopment commissioner. >> okay. >> i know that there are numerous births there, and a lot of people were surprised that redevelopment owned. [laughter]. >> yeah, it was interesting. >> owned both land and water. >> i mean, again, i'm not super familiar with how that is impacted and has impacted our budget, but we have taken over south beach harbor, for example, and obviously there are certain

revenues associated with that facility, you know, the marina, the births, it generates revenue , but there is also significant costs. i think the park next to the facility here that we are talking about was really redevelopment area property, and it has been put back onto the port's books. obviously there is no real revenue associated with that, there are costs, and a couple of other areas, but, yes, we have expanded our portfolio to reclaim those areas that i think were poor jurisdiction, we had agreements with the redevelopment agency. >> okay. the port has an incredible portfolio. can you talk a little bit more about the observation deck? >> sure.

>> and can you bring up that slide? >> it is on this slide. so to the bottom of the screen, and the yellow is indicating that these are public access areas pursuant to the b.c. d.c. permit, so that southernmost area -- >> would that be 24 and 21? >> yes. twenty-one is referring to that public observation deck, which is, you know, it is going to be -- i'm not exactly sure what the square footage is, but it is a pretty good size, and there will be a piece of artwork there, and again, you know, i don't have all the details tonight about things like that, about what the artwork will be, it will be something -- >> we have had a presentation on

that previously. >> great. i think that is location of it, and i think, again, it will be something really neat for the public to be able to interact with that piece of art and, you know, view the boats, and maybe some of the activity. i know there is probably certain activities that will need to be shielded from the public and, you know, they will be within the building, but loading hoses and things like that is something that i think the public finds interesting. >> so the observation deck is to observe the firefighters in action. >> yes. and deploying the boats and that sort of thing. >> is there a way we can monetize that? i'm just kidding. [laughter]

>> one of the things that was included is they wanted to see tours made available to the historic station, and i believe -- >> since it is no longer a dormitory site, that that might be possible. >> right. maybe you can try for that. >> okay. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. i had one other question for you , i can't remember what it is right now, but -- can you please send that last visual to our commission secretary so that she can distribute it to us? >> certainly, i will do that

tomorrow. >> thank you again. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for your report. it sounds like your heart is in this project. >> absolutely. i have been working on it for a number of years, and i do think it is -- it is obvious the very innovative in terms of its response to sealevel rise, for example, and i think it is something that it has been under the radar so far, and i think once it gets under construction and it gets closer to completion , you will see a lot more, you know, publicity about it. there's been a little bit about it from junking in the chronicle , but i think it is a really neat project, and obviously, you know, really important project for the city in terms of providing critical emergency response

infrastructure. i'm very excited about it. i know port commissioners are as well. chief nicholson mentioned we were at the port commission last tuesday the 14th, unfortunately i had been called in for jury duty, so i wasn't there. i watch the video. they are very, very supportive and poised to approve the m.o.u. next tuesday.

>> it's a contributing resource to that. >> the short paragraph about dredging is -- >> it requires much dredging as some of the areas due to the

buildup of the float and i don't know if he is able to say more about that but that will be the responsibility of the fire department if that is required. >> again, during our finding, through a maritime consultant, there's a potential for a buildup of cells as jamie explained. if that does occur, we would be responsible for removing the buildup so that the float would still be able to rise and fall with the sea level. i think though, according to our calculations, unless there was something pretty catastrophic, we're looking at not much, you

know, removal. i think we're in pretty good shape. in terms of what we were -- the information we were given through the consulting group from d.p.w. >> the draft of the new structure, do you have it off the top of your head? >> i don't. >> neither do i. one of the few items. i will add though that this project, the float itself is to build the fire house itself o are so there's a lot of local, o there's a lot of local enterprise working on it. >> very good.

ok. >> did the footprint off the top of your head, do you have the footprint difference in square footage according to bcdc? >> are you referring to where we started out with the project? >> i know they're finicky. anything over the order is considered filled. i was wondering how this worked out? >> i don't have the exact numbers. you know, the facility was sized to sort of provide the minimum m amount of fill that would meet the requirements for this facility. it started out as a larger facility and certain things got moved into -- that were originally in the new facility

got moved into the historic fire house. >> i would like to add the actual float is -- it was built to berth all of our maritime vessels so the float itself could not be downsized. but the building was downsized by 7% after initial row marks from bcdc when we first started our project with them. we did reduce the size of the building but the float cannot be reduced because then we would not have the capacity to put all of our maritime assets. >> chief nickolson, who is going to be the point person on this? have you decided yet? >> what do you mean the point person? >> the new commander to oversee this project from your staff.

>> so, our support ser visions,s it our go to and chief rivera on our fire station rebuilds. he has staff that works for him who oversee those -- or intimately involved in whether station 5 or station 16. >> thank you. i was surprised -- i was looking forward to maybe some harsher problems financially for the fire department. in short term, things are looking good. thank you. >> thank you, very much, commissioner hardeman and thank you in terms of your questions and comments. thank you very much for your comprehensive presentation and update just as a point of

information. this will go in front of the board commission when? >> tuesday the 28th of may and our port commission meets at 3:15 every other tuesday. so yeah, this next tuesday. it's scheduled as a consent item so unless one of the commissioners wants to take it off the consent calender and ask questions, we expect them to just vote on it without having a presentation. >> no further presentation because we gave them an informational update last week. >> that calender, with the action item in terms of a motion and a vote. >> correct. and i will say in terms of the timing, the timing is good. we sort of pushed it out as far as we really can without running into the potential to impact the project schedule. the project team is anxious to get going with actual

construction starting i think with some of the demolition work that we talked about at the existing site. obviously, as the chief mentioned, some of the work is done overseas. the window for in water work construction window opens up on june 1st so there's a desire to get going and utilize that window as much as possible. >> thank you, very much mr. hurley and thank you very much chief for being this commissioner. >> yes, chief nickolson, just a quick question on this. why doesn't the commission, the park commission, has to approve the nyu? >> the port commission has to approve it because there's a ceqa. it's not this isn't for the permit process to move forward. >> do you have something to

adhere? >> in general it's been the practice of the department to bring m.o.u.s that involve outside agencies before the commission and not necessarily within other city departments. we have a few for a variety of services with other city departments if that's the desire of the commission going forward in the future, we can definitely suggest thasuggest that but it't practice. >> it's important for our commission to officially endorse and support this m.o.u. don't you? >> they wan support so i would like to make a motion to support this m.o.u. >> it's not an action item. >> i'm going to have voice

president covington comment on this. voice president covington? >> thank you, mr. president. i understand from the city attorney's office it's not necessary for us to vote on this. it would be good for us to just say by a vote affirmation that we appreciate the work of the port commission and that we are in agreement with what is in the document. going forward, as mr. corso said, if we want to make sure we're voting on particular things, that would be the new approach. because of the ceqa requirements, california

environmental protection concerns, we don't want to hold anything up. >> i agree with that. >> so for us to insist at this point that we have a formal vote would hold things up. >> well, yeah, we just put it on the agenda obviously. for discussion. >> it was an agenda as something for us to vote on. >> something to think about in the future. >> absolutely. we can discuss that for sure. >> thank you. >> thank you. at this point again, thank you, very much mr. hurl'. hurly. you got the flavor of the commission in terms of this as well and the understanding. i concur with the statements of our voice president in terms of sequence and process. also that we have our folks that have been working very hard on this and we're ready to go. and this particular point in terms of what chief rivera referred to in terms of construction, as well as part of

this equipment or in terms of the berth that is being made overseas. there's a window here in terms of when that berth can come over here to san francisco. at this particular point, we thank you for that and mr. hardeman has a comment. >> yes, jamie, i'd just like you to send my regards to mike nernie. he was the maritime director and he is still the assistant. he is a very wonderful guy who works with you. i took a cruise out of pier 27 out of jimmy herman terminal. i've had a couple other cruises since the terminal opened but there were other ships in there so i had to go out of 35. my first experience was at the end of march on a cruise and it's remarkable. being named after jimmy herman, who i served on the port commission with, i don't know if any of you every saw jimmy herman in action.

he was president of the union for many years and many years as a port commissioner, every meeting he would get up for 10 or 15 minutes, stand up, go back and fourth and give a speech to the audience that the port commission, the most wonderful words came out of his mouth but you weren't sure what he said but he sounded really good. >> he didn't have that opportunity but yes. >> having a cruise ship named after him is his first dealings as a maritime person were as working on a cruise ship. >> report from chief of

department on current issues and events of the department since the fire commission meeting on may eighth, including budget, academy, special events, outreach to other government agencies and the public and report from administration deputy chief jose vello on administrative division, fleet and facility status and updates finance support services, homeland security and training within the department. >> thank you, very much, madam secretary. as in our tradition, chief nickolson give your report first and i'll ask for public comment and questions from the commissioners and they will move into the report for the administration with deputy chief joe a vella. welcome. >> thank you, president. vice president, commissioners. sister marine. this is my report. first i would like to to a intre a couple of people. we've made promotions since i

told chief vello down here. we have -- we are promoting an acting assistant chief and she's here tonight. chief lori kaylo, she will be in division 2 moving forward. and then, we're also making some changes in e.m.s. and we have neil with us here tonight and can you stand up, neil. so he will -- he already is working hard for us so that's a couple of changes that we're making. some of the other things that are happening i happening in oud chill reached out to all the employee groups and meet with them we have made contact with

them and we'll be meeting with them. even our chief's association is nothing life again which is great. there's a lot of support in the department. cd2, 3 and myself, we attended the union membership meeting on may ninth. and spoke to the members and had a good reception. just opening up communication. opening up the communication lines so we can collaborate on what we can work together on. we had a labor management meeting with chief vello and myself and the board of the union local 798 yesterday. that was a productive meeting. cd2, 3 and myself are continuing

to visit the fire stations. and we're going to get to every sing of one of them and within the first month. they have made quite a dent to getting around to talk to all the members. i've made it to several stations. station 5, station 7, station 13, aim going to go to station 14 this friday and we also had on the 17th, we had a town hall meeting at station 49 which we got a really good reception and chiefs attended as well. a lot of questions and a lot of back and fourth. i felt it was really helpful, productive and again, there's sort of a ground swell of movement there. we're working on new committees that can come out of station 49 to work on some of the issues

there. feeling good about that. we're going to have a pre-tower in jun for the members of station 49 who would like to transition into suppression so they can get on the list for that. budget, budget, budget. we have submitted our enhancement requests to the mayor's budget office. if you recall, we were asked to cut two and a half percent and we pushed back on that because of our increased in call volume and all the increase things that we are committed to doing for the city. we felt it was unsustainable for us and so we moved forward with some enhancements so that is with the mayor's budget office right now and as you know, we've been having meetings with some of the supervisors with some of

the members of the commission and we're moving forward with that and having good conversations, bringing the data, bringing the story to them so they understand and understand where wore coming from. we met with supervisor fewer, supervisor walton and we had a meeting with supervisor peskin. we're doing some promotions. i don't know if you saw e-mails today but there are more retirements so there's movement in the department. we met with dhr regarding regarding testing and what tests

we'll move forward with and in terms of whether we keep the schedule the way it is or if we accelerate things. that is a conversation we're having internally whether we go with a three year or two year with a one-year extension and we are having that conversation internally and we'll have that conversation with local 798 as well. this week, i'll meet with the head of the bicycle coalition. we're on good speaking grounds. so we're not bashing heads and working on what we can work on together. we all want the city to be safer and there are different things to think about with that today

we met with brad rusey, myself and olivia scanlan met with him in regards to the morgado case and he will update all of you in the near future. we're meeting with department of emergency management on our disaster preparations and plans and training moving forward and we are -- we've had a couple meetings with some of our e.m.s. partners and wore meeting with emsa and the medical director for the fire department and medical director of ems moving forward. we also met with the member of the council of hospitals today. we're not working in a vacuum, they're not working in a vacuum so we need to open up the conversation so we know how we can all best work together with

transparency and good communications. and then, just lastly, i know that there are a lot of hopeful people here in the rooms. people hoping to get a job with the fire department. we applaud you for coming to the fire commission meetings and you are certainly welcome here at any time to hear what is going on and to -- if you want to drop off your resume here that's fine or send it to our headquarters. myself approximate m and my coml not meet after the meetings. we're changing things up a little bit moving forward. you are certainly welcome here and i think it's a great place to get some information about the fire department. we just want to be up front with you about that. that concludes my report for

tonight. >> thank you, very much chief nickolson. at this particular point i'll ask for public comment off your report. is there any member of the public who wishes to give public comment off of chief nickolson's report. seeing none. public comment is closed. any questions, discussions from the commissioners? >> thank you, mr. president. and thank you chief, for your report. couple of questions. when you talked about the testing schedule or what not, that d.h.r. and the departments had a conversation about and you will have to go to local 798 for any changes, is d.h.r. suggesting that we have some sort of changes? >> no, they are not. it's simply the schedule and again, it could certainly have a financial impact on us if we have tests more regularly. by think it can also have a

positive operational impact on us in terms of -- i've seen some lists where we've gone all the way through the list and hired everyone on the list and sometimes that is to our benefit and sometimes it's not. moving forward, we can figure out whether we do the three-year test or two-year test with a one-year extension or how we're going to work it. the test with the biggest impact on us is typically the h-20 test because it's what most people tend to take that exam. this is all a discussion that we've just started that we haven't ex to any conclusions on. again, it's just we're opening up conversations with all sorts of different departments, different aspects, and so nothing has been decided as of yet. >> but the entry level that is

continuous testing. >> nothing is changing with the entry level. >> that was my question. >> one other question, you met with the hospital council with david. >> yes. >> he is a really good guy and the hospital council, is there almosroom for our commission for opportunity for our commission to meet with the hospital council? >> i'm sure we could arrange that. absolutely. it was a meet and greet and from where i'm coming from, where the new administration is coming from and let's see how we can work together. i was invited to their meeting in june. i think we have to have these conversations because as you know, we don't work in a vacuum. holhomelessness effects all of s in this city and our operations, from top to bottom. we need to figure out how we can

work together and so we have begun those conversations. >> thank you, chief. >> thank you, very much, commissioner. >> chief, i just want to acknowledge and my appreciation for -- i know you have been going through out stations your entire year but coming from the chief of the department it's a big deal you are doing that. i wanted to make it to the talent tall but i couldn't because i have a paying job pulling me in that direction. >> i'm sorry so hear that. >> i know, it's unfortunate. it's really unfortunate. i need to join the ranks of my colleagues. it won't be for several years. [ please stand by ]

b i watch that. it was very nice. a number of the people, including the chief was there, and a large group of people that got a commendation from the board of supervisors. congratulations on that too.

i am glad you're bringing in people that we don't see in the front row, which is good, other people got to be recognize there i was very happy that that happened and then the other thing was governor knew some, who tried his best to take money out of people's hands when he was here trying to deal with the problems of addictions, and the problems on the street, that he tried his best, but now there are a billion dollars they're in california, and generally getting together and trying to act so that everyone coming to san francisco from the part -- the parties can contribute to this new idea that the governor has information on that. at least he is taking a step forward. a billion dollars is a good

amount of money. that was it. good job. >> thank you very much. commissioner, i just wanted to say, i wanted to concur, chief, on the comments about -- and all of us in terms of the stations, and the timing -- the timing of this new administration, just a sense of communication in terms of the membership, as well. very much appreciate it, and i was not able to make it to your town hall meeting at station 49, with chief chief tong as well. perhaps, at some point, on your prerogative, we maybe able to get an update now that the chief has been part of the department and we might be able to get an update report from your perspective as to what is going on with your prerogative. i really wanted to say, i am

grateful in terms of that. also in terms of, i want to show appreciation to yourself and the ministration and fellow colleagues. in terms of the budget advocacy, with the various supervisors, and i know that still will oak her. i wanted to congratulate -- you pointed out chiefs in terms of promotions. it is just positive and a very good movement and ensuring up your command force, as well. i just wanted to comment at this particular time. thank you very much. >> you are on board of mac welcome. >> thank you. i have a presentation for you. >> did you want to go directly to the laptop? >> not yet.

good evening, commissioners. first of all, again, to thank you for chief nicholson for selecting me for this job. never thought i'd be so busy in my life. [laughter] >> i have been to lots of meetings and done lots of business moves and i'm happy to be part of this new team moving the department forward. i want to change things up a little bit for the report. i gave you a copy hence of report, and i will do presentation with the highlights of this report. we can discuss. i have colleagues who can answer any questions that i may not know the answers for. one thing i want to say, by working with them, i really admire what they do every day. from the feet on the floor putting out fires, we have a good time, we have coffee, respond to fires, and we go home these people were nonstop 24/7, even at night. phone calls, e-mails, 4:00 a.m. in the morning