any public comment? public comment is closed. a motion? >> so moved. >> motion to approve the minutes. >> second. >> all right. >> motion by commissioner dwight to approve the comments seconded. >> voice vote is suffer, i think. >> -- voice vote is sufficient. >> awful in favor. -- all in favor. motion passings. >> item 9. director's report. update and report on the offers of small business and the small business assistance center, department programs, policy and legislative matters, announcements from the mayor and announcements regarding small business activities. >> i have pressed out the press release from today where the mayor announced investments to strengthen san francisco small businesses. on the back side it highlights

$4 million in cornerstone grants. this is financial assistance to small businesses and nonprofit located in ground floor spaces in newly constructed housing -- newly constructed affordable housing. $2 million in small business fee assistance. this will help mitigate funding. it is help offset some of the fees that businesses have in terms of regulatory fees. that is the annual dph and fire fees and things of that sort. then $1 million increasing funding for the city's revolving loan fund. increasing funding to our loan program to help more businesses be able to start and/or expand their business. then $2 million to expand our sf shines program. that program has been pretty

successful in helping businesses either do façade improvements, tenant improvements inside, expanding on that. as commissioner sharky noted earlier, these are for façades, interiors, signage, ada and anything in relationship to historic preservation that may be required. those were early announcements in regards to the mayor's budget for 19-20. then i had the office was planning on moving from our current location to the other tax and treasurer's office in 140. we are in 110. this was to take place friday and monday.

because there are some missing essential parts to the furniture set up, we are now that is going to be extended out to after i am back from vacation in mid-june. we were all looking forward to getting that move done and taking place but it is now delayed. >> do you have a timeline on the move? you will move out of here when the new building is built, is that correct? >> not completely. >> we will definitely always maintain a presence here. then we will have some presence over at 49 south vanness. >> i don't have to change the preamble to the meeting? >> no, no and that will be late 2020 at the earliest, if anything is happening. we do get a fair number of businesses that are referred from the tax and treasurer's

office and they are the newbies in starting the business. it is essential we maintain a presence. that concludes my report. >> commissioners any comments or questions? any members of the public like to comment on in item? seeing none public comment closed. next item, please. >> item 10 commissioners reports. allows president and vice president and commissioners to reported on recent small business activities and make announcements of interest to the small business community discussion item. >> i don't have anything to report. >> i would like to report i worked with gloria lee and the director tom from sba. we put together -- we worked

with the offers of the senator and david chu's office to put together a resource affair on may 17th. we invited speakers to the fair and provided information on different ways to access capital and information about the retirement programming. also the office of small business was there participating and also lawrence from sbc was there. it was pretty well attended. positive feedback from business owners and potential business owners. also attended some functions on the small business week and may is asian heritage month. i attended the celebrations as well. that is it. >> anyone else?

any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. next item. >> 11. new business. allows commissioners to introduce new agenda items for future consideration by the commission. discussion item? any public comments. public comments is closed. >> sfgovtv please show the slide. >> this is the only place to start your new business in san francisco. the best place to get answers to your questions about doing business in san francisco. if you need assistance start here at the office of small business. all right. next item please. >> item 12 adjournment. >> i move. i second. >> all in favor. aye. >> meeting adjourned at

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>> good morning, everyone. apologies. [laughter] the meeting will come to order. welcome to the may 23rd, 2019 regular meeting of the public safety and neighborhood services committee. i am the chair of the committee. to my right as vice chair stefani, to my left a supervisor walton. our clerk is john carroll. i want to think matthew and corwin at san francisco government t.v. for staffing the meeting. do you have any announcements? >> thank you, mr. chair. insert you silence your cell phones and electronic devices. completed speaker cards and copies of any document should be cemented to the clerk. items acted upon will appear in the june 4th, 2019 board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated by motion. >> please call our first item. >> agenda item number 1 is the hearing to consider the promised apprentice -- premise -- beer and wine and liquor license,

during businesses a market located at 168 to 186 eddie. >> great. colleagues, we continue this item from the main ninth meeting to allow for the applicant to work out some conditions and get a signed document to the alu. i think we will hear from the alu first. so where are we on this? >> good morning, supervisors. i am with the alcohol liaison unit at sfpd. we have come to the agreement the conditions for this type 21. the sale service and consumption of alcoholic beverages shall be permitted only between the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 12:00 a.m. each day of the week. petitioners should actively monitor the area under our control in an effort to prevent the loitering of persons on any property adjacent to the licensed properties.

these conditions were signed as of may 16th. >> can you explain the issue to me between a 7:00 a.m. opening and 8:00 a.m. opening? >> that was our recommendation is to have them start. >> it is hard understand why you need to be selling alcohol in the tenderloin at 7:00 a.m. >> it is difficult for us to agree on this as well, but working with a.b.c., ultimately they hold license, it is a state license. we just provide our recommendations and after looking at, you know, the letters of support that came in the fact they are in the community and they do operate at a good level what we expect them to operate under, we were able to agree on the 7:00 a.m. start time to help them out being that they are part of the community and they do well for everybody

there. >> thank you. >> supervisors, this was pretty much heard the other day, i want to say if we could have the overhead, what we have here is one of the good players in the tenderloin who has been part of the community, part of the bid. the tenderloin neighborhood developments corporation, you have a letter in the file from dawn fault who is the c.e.o. they have a building where my client is now at 200 ellis street -- eddy street, they are moving across taylor street into a larger space in the hope is that we can create a community grocery store in the tenderloin with fresh produce. they have fresh produce now, but

larger produce section and healthier foods for the community. >> can you maybe explain, i mean it was enough of an issue that you wanted to negotiate whether the start time should be, the start time for the alcohol sale, but whether the alcohol sales should start at 8:00 a.m. or 7:00 a.m., and i'm curious why it is so important to start selling alcohol at 7:00 a.m. >> thank you for the opportunity to explain. we have been in the business for many years and we have tried to manage the way it should be in the neighborhood and provide everything to the customers. this is not everything we did not want to have any confusion or any kind of conflict for the employees fresh food tends to be

open at 6:00, but they can sell alcohol until seven. even if we open at seven, two hours is a little bit of a gap in between for the local community. for some people, they do buy alcohol in the morning. some stores, most of the stores open at 6:00, but we don't. we open at seven and that is a reason why there would be no problems with this or confusions >> great. all right. i don't see any comments or questions from my colleagues. thank you. it appears that we have some public comment. i am seeing john mccormick and shelley dyer and anyone else who would like to speak can line up over here on the right side. i am going to say a few things about public comment before he let you start. speakers have two minutes. we as he state your first and

last name and speak directly into the microphone. if you have prepared a written statement, you encourage -- you are encouraged to leave it with the committee clerk. no applause or booing is permitted. in the interest of time, we encourage speakers to avoid repetition of previous statements. >> my name is john mccormick thank you for having us here today. i just wanted to say that it is a corner store that is a staple in the community and it is a neighborhood that does not have access to healthy foods and vegetables. unfortunately, it is a reality that the viability of the business depends on selling liquor, and we wish that was in the case and we wish we didn't have to ask for this license, but we want to increase the

amount of fruits and vegetables that can be sold in the neighborhood, and i just had a resident in the other day tell me that if he could buy more produce, he would, but the case that they have right now is small, it is not a very large unit, and if he was able to buy more produce, he would. this is amanda and s.r.o. who does not have access to healthy vegetables or access to healthy food in the neighborhood. this would give us more access to the healthy fruits and vegetables that create healthy lives, that create healthy brains, that create educated citizens. this is an investment, not only in the tenderloin, but in san francisco. when we have healthy people, we have healthy, educated citizens i can help us create a sustainable future. please, please, please help us translate this liquor license in order to get more healthy

produce into the neighborhood. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good morning, supervisors. i am a program supervisor for the healthy corner store coalition with the tenderloin develop and corporation. i work very closely with him to support him and in increasing the accessibility to produce within the tenderloin community. we are in support of them transferring this liquor license one of the positives of this is it is not a request for a new license, even moving from his current location just across the street to the new family housing building. this means that residents that are living above the building will have access just below the residential units to have affordable and fresh produce. within this plan, he is planning to expand the amount of produce that he is selling and just over the past year, or small business consultant round numbers were he selling four times more produce

in the quarter one of 2019. being willing to participate in any community engagement effort around nutrition and availability of fresh food that he has been able to increase himself and we are confident we will have even more fresh produce when he moves to the new location. he has assessed the financials and we do agree that he does need this liquor relations to survive. he is also providing more fresh produce. thank you for the opportunity. >> fifty% of me agrees with what you're talking about. the other 50% of me is furious.

>> i was just fine when i walked in here and you said his name and you assign the contract to him, and before i get started, i agree with everything that was said before hand and as far as liquor is being sold, you have to keep in mind that you have wiener wanting alcohol to be sold all the way to 4:00 in the morning. is that clear? don god damn fault, you've got threats of violence and verbal abuse against staff and tenants. we are going on six years of living in a hostile environment. [ bleep ] i'll kill you, [ bleep ]. that is how i am being treated. i had to represent myself as my own attorney and restrain the courts against tenants and even actual one staff that work for him. he didn't do a god damn thing about it.

[indiscernible] all of them like, the compliance monitor refused to give me equal opportunity in housing. you breached that contract. if you've got zero tolerance for threats of violence and verbal abuse, you are being arrested in there and [ bleep ] on the god damn premises where we live. then we are not demonstrating and complaining about it. understand me, they don't do a god damn thing about it. if you start whipping on them, then you'll be charging me. i go through all the legal procedures get restraining orders and put them in jail, when they get out, they come back to the building. -- [indiscernible] >> thank you.

>> mr. chair, the speaker's time has concluded. [indiscernible]. >> thank you, michael. [indiscernible] >> we can't let you talk more than public comment, but we can talk with you off-line. okay. are there any other members of the public would like to speak before i close public comment? seeing none -- maybe there was someone. nope, you will be back. okay. public comment on item one is now closed. colleagues, first i want to

thank the a.l.u. and the applicant for working together to get the concerns that we had last time resolved. they have clearly brought community support for this. we have documents in order. unless anyone has had concerns or objections, i think we can direct the clerk to prepare resolution and file public convenience and necessity for this application. i will make a motion to send this resolution to the full board with a positive recommendation and we can take that without objection. mr. clerk, please call the next item. >> number 2 is a hearing to consider the issuance of tape 64 special on sale general theatre liquor license to the centre for new music incorporated doing business at the centre for new music. >> hello again.

>> before you, we have a report for the centre for new music. they have applied for tape 64 license, and if approved, this would allow them to sell special on sale general here and wine and distilled spirits for the theatre. there are zero levels of progestin one levels of support. they are located in plot 180 which is considered a high crime area. they are in census tract 125.01 which is considered a high saturation area, and the police station has no opposition. the alcohol liaison unit approves the following recommended commissions. conditions. they should actively monitor the area under their control in an effort to vent the loitering of purses under any under any property as depicted on the most recently certified a.b.c. 253. no noise should be audible at any nearby residents and lastly, the petitioner shall be responsible for maintaining free of litter the area adjacent to the premises over which they

have control. it should be noted that the conditions have been signed as of may 16th by the applicant. >> great. thank you. >> i think we have the applicant here. >> no public comment yet. but it is coming. >> hello. >> hey. i am brent miller, the executive director of the centre for new music. >> and i am wryly, the project manager. anything you want to say? >> we are a nonprofit organization who has been in existence for about six and a half years now and we have about 150 concerts a year in our space we have a lot of people who come to our events and who would like to have a drink with their concert, and so that is why we are applying for this license.

>> thank you for the work that you do. >> thank you. >> i don't see any comments or questions from my colleagues see you guys can sit down. >> all right. >> now if there are members of the public would like to speak on this item, we will open up public comment. >> fifty-five taylor street. the concentration of a lot of economically disadvantaged people. combination of mental and physical disabilities. people that are amputees. people that are in wheelchairs, homeless people, they are in that area. that is an example of the shortage of housing and an example of each and every apartment application an opportunity that comes out of that damn near's office on housing that is hired in the income that they they're making. then we are out there on the street and if you go out there and wonder why.

you start discharging your bowels on the street, you sit up there and you are the belly of the joke of every educational channel standard t.v., and the ministration is part of it. you've got 8,011 homeless people in san francisco. and you want to talk about no laundry, where is it going to go when you open up this place, people are already down there." you want to tell them to move? where are you going to move to? that is why i say make those demonstrations about building an apartment building complex instead of a god damn navigation center. navigation center and the embarcadero is nothing but 170. you call it a shelter bed, that is not a bed, that is a mat on the floor. it is not even a bed, it is a mat lying on the god damn concrete that is 10 inches away with another mat of another homeless person.

he only get 60 days to stay there in the near put on the street again. those are the kind of conditions that you have of the county jail that is not supportive housing. this is a derivative of why you have that problem on the street. so you are going to be blaming people for loitering when they don't have anywhere to go. >> thank you. are there any other members of the public who wish to speak on this item? seeing none, public comment is now closed. there we go, now we are really closed. all right, so supervisor haney is also in support of this item. we have all the documents that i think we need, so i think if you are both all right with this, will direct the clerk to create a resolution, and i move that we forward that to the full board with positive recommendation and we'll take that without objection.

and mr. clerk, please call our next item. >> number 3 is a hearing on safety improvement plans for public works streets cleaning truck operations. >> this is president president he's hearing. welcome, if you like to start by saying a few words? >> sure. thank you. good morning, colleagues. i call this hearing on a safety protocol of the street cleaning provision of the public works. i want to thank my cosponsor for this -- for his support on this hearing, supervisor walton. as our concern arose from several incidents involving the operations of the street cleaning division followed by a citation given by the state agency responsible for worker safety. violations that were reviewed by an investigative report by in

b.c. bay area. these violations included unsecured loads, overloaded trucks and other unsafe and unhealthy conditions that employees were being forced to work under while our public works department is one of our workforce departments that we rely on daily to keep our city clean and orderly, it is serious concern that the department was recently investigated by cal osha for practices that were putting both employees and our public at risk. i watched the in b.c. bay area reports on this issue and it was disturbing to know that microwaves, wooden pallets, televisions, were all left and secure on truck beds as they were being transported to the dump and even more concerning, that the top management seem to be unaware that this was in

violation of state law. san francisco spends $72 million a year on street cleaning, which is more than what larger cities like los angeles and chicago spend by millions. we have to make sure that our operations justify the expense and that we are operating with the public safety in mind at all times. the kind of debris that can fall off the moving vehicles accounts for about 50,658 crashes. 9,800 injuries and 125 deaths each year according to the 2016 study by aaa. these numbers are not san francisco numbers, obviously, but just to get the scope of the dangers when we don't actually

comply to the safety regulations so therefore, i called the hearing to basically determine a few things. first i want to walk through the investigation. after the citation, my understanding was that public works was found to fail to have corrected and implemented changes in according to -- according to a follow-up report. the question here is, what is the status of the citation, and the follow-through to correct by public works? are there other -- any other investigations that are in progress by the company regarding any of the department divisions department divisions, not just street cleaning? number 2, what changes have been made by the department of public works since that investigation to come to full compliance?

number 3, and finally, how has the department been able to keep up with their ever-changing landscape of state regulations and laws that impact their operations? how do front-line staff get wind of these changes? how do you ensure that all employees are aware of the code of safe practices and are practising those safety rules? how are they enforced? do you have spot checks or internal audits? or is this compliance -- complaint driven? this is probably a question, not to your department directly, but since we have the benefit of the deputy city attorney here at this hearing, i would also like the city attorney to address the last question. what is the city attorney's office's policy and for how each department, citywide is informed of the most recent developments

so that they can be sure that they are in compliance or can come into compliance as soon as possible with laws and regulations? that govern their operations, whether it is public works or any other department? so i will turn it over to larry, the director of operations and the department of public works and jeremy spitz, the department of public works, director of government and legislative affairs. >> good morning, supervisors. i want to start by saying i am also the deputy director of operations, but also responsible for the fleet of the entire department. public works is strongly committed to safety. it is our top priority, and we work every day to build a safety culture. within the department, we have a departmental safety committee that meets quarterly. we have an operations committee

that we -- meets quarterly, made up of employees from the file, all the way up to the managers, to do safety evaluations, recognize problems, but also we have campaigns that we do for safety both through operating the vehicles, as well as their own employee vehicle safety, as well as the safety of the public we do employee accident reviews where the -- for employees. we have a committee that reviews each vehicle accident, and then it is reviewed a second time by the managers and cause is determined for whether it was preventable or nonpreventable. we also have monthly bureau wide safety meetings. there are four bureaus that do work in the field in san francisco every day. all of the members of those bureaus meet once a month and have a safety discussion. they also have tailgates every two weeks, and during that

tailgate process, the cover safe practices for both operation of vehicles, but as well as other operations that we do on the field. those are all documented, they are also required by the company i think related to that is -- we do have a strong commitment to when we find something wrong, making changes to make it better , whether it is with equipment, whether it is types of operations that we do, and we do evaluate root cause for accidents and injuries, and in particular, injuries, is reached care strongly about our workforce. i do want to thank environment of services. they pick up about 1 million pounds a week of debris. we will -- last year we picked up 26,000 i believe it is, tons.

we also have gone up to 145,000 surface requests. that is all in a day. it is a 24/7 365 operation, meaning they don't have a day off. we do not take a day off in the city. this includes a band in waste of illegal dumping, and mechanical sweeping services. the accident that -- the actions we took since we received the citation, we updated the code of safe practices related to overweight vehicles, we found when we did the reviewed that that was -- there was not in there about overweight vehicles. that is not included in the code of safe practices for all the vehicle types that we have. there were also tailgates done

and reviewed with all staff. we placed wait descriptions for all vehicles and all trucks, so they understand the right size truck for what they will be hauling. we held training on proper loading of vehicles with offstreet cleaning staff, and i issued a memo related to proper loading of vehicles, we also automated with recology and we now have an automated report for tonnage of all the vehicles that go to the dump, and that is reviewed weekly. we have it set up so we automatically identify if there is a vehicle that is overloaded. just a little bit about the whole in b.c. news and everything, we provided them with a spreadsheet of all dumping that was done for an entire, i believe it was close to a year. there were 29,000 dump entries

during that time, of which we determined that 103 of those vehicles were overweight. forty-seven of those entries were sweepers, and we determined the root cause of that. at one time, we do sweeping on the great highway, almost seven days a week, and the vehicles that were overweight were the ones that were sweeping sand off the great highway. we had a change in procedure. we lost the area where we could dump, and so we used to dump there at the beach, we had an area, and the front end loader would pick that up. we lost that, so they have been going to the dump, and that is where the majority of those entries were. the front end loaders was the front end loaders actually -- we keep the sweepers from going everywhere so the front end loaders have designated areas where the sweepers dump, and the

front end loader loads it up and they take it to the dump. they are responsible for least two or three routes that they will pick up, and that is for efficiency's sake because we cannot have a sweeper going all the way to the dump and coming back. the 42 tracks, that was the total number of tracks that we found overweight out of the 29,053. nothing to be said about that. they were overloaded. some by a couple hundred, and some by as much as eight or 900 pounds. there were four that we found errors, so we needed to check with recology, and we are double checking data because we know entries were definitely errors that those trucks were not capable of carrying the wait that was reported, they just wouldn't have moved. so we have a problem with that. i gave you, in the presentation,

the total percentage of tracks that were overweight was 35,000, 1%, and the overloaded sleepers was 16,000 of 1%, and the overloaded trucks was 14,000 of 1%, and the load was 3,000 of 1% the description of the trucks, so the two tracks here are called litter patrol trucks. they are -- they do a lot of the work for the department. we have a total of 77 of the 250 , in 91 of the 350 variety tracks, and they pick up the bulk of the debris. and then we have 16 of what are

the flatbed trucks. we use that a lot for homeless debris because if you look at the size of the pickup versus the size of this, we are able to load a lot more debris into it. the air sweepers are the mechanical sweepers. they do the bulk of the mechanical sweeping work along the city streets, and then the other mechanical sweeper we used to pick up heavier debris, such as sand and other materials because the air sweeper doesn't work as well. last, the front end loader, which i talked about, which does all of the loading for the sweepers so they are not going back and forth. they will pick up their loads, usually the last load of the day , the sweepers will go to the dump, but they may dump two or three times during the course of the day. in relationship to this out -- citation, we were cited for not

having a procedure in place under the injury and illness prevention program for overweight vehicles. that was the main bulk of the citation. they did have another one, but we were in the process of fixing that related to -- they did not cite as for overweight vehicles, but the fact that we did not have a policy in place to address it, so the code of safe practices that you are provided in the package took that into account, and we took the steps that we did to make sure that all employees were trained in that we also have that change in place. there's been no follow-up from them since. we satisfied what they did, and they reduced the fine. i think that's pretty much what i have if you have any questions >> all right. before i ask you questions,

would you like to address the question about new regulations coming down the pipe and what kind of policy we have? >> yes. deputy city attorney. as you know, our office represents and advises all city departments something in the range of 55 or 60 different departments that have, that are very diverse, some very large with a lot of responsibilities like d.p.w., some very small with minimal responsibilities, in all sorts of different state and federal regulatory overlays. generally, how much we, my office chocks state and federal law changes for a department varies and it depends on the department's needs.

so an attorney representing a department or advising a department should be working with that department head or department reps to figure out a division of responsibility. it is about what we are tracking , what they are tracking some departments putting many of the departments in and they have staff who specifically spend a lot of time tracking changes in state law. based on in terms of the departments i work with, for example, if there is a change to public meetings or public record laws, i am responsible for informing the clerk and tracking that. i also work with the department of elections downstairs. they have staff who regularly, all the time, are tracking changes in state law regarding their operations. we do that, too, but it tends to be their primary responsibility, and that is just something we worked out between our office

and the department client based on their individual needs. with d.p.w., i believe there is a mix. d.p.w. does also is of things. for example, they are on telecom and utility matters. we still have an attorney who closely tracks all changes in the regulatory structure under state and federal law and informs d.p.w. on other matters, d.p.w. staff may take the lead on that kind of tracking. >> thank you for the explanation basically, you're saying there is no one-size-fits-all? >> exactly. in regards to the trucks we are talking about, the issue that we are talking about, i don't know if there is a whole lot in the regulations. certainly things like overweight , covering the bed when the debris is over a certain height, or putting a

flag on something when it is sticking out, those things to me are not a big deal. when i used to do handyman type of work in my younger days, i had a track, and they knew all that stuff. so i don't know what new regulations might come up, but if there are some new regulations regarding this operation, how do you guys handle that? >> we would hopefully be briefed by somebody that there was a change being made to the law. >> hopefully from what? from whom would you hopefully -- >> either shops or the city attorney. if there is a change. >> is there some person in the department itself, is there a mechanism, is there somebody that would monitor things that might impact your operations? >> no, not currently, there is not. >> okay. that is probably something that

you might want to talk to mohammed about, because i think everybody should be paying attention to if there's something new that will impact your operations. i don't think there is going to be a whole lot for this. in your presentation, one of the things that the investigative report talked about was the covering. you didn't mention anything about that. >> two things, i think this predates me what they were doing it has been going on for a long time. in reading the language of the vehicle code, i can only assume that there was an assumption that the highway they thought of as a freeway. there has been forever a rule that stands for that bureau that loaded or unloaded that they are not to go on the freeway at all.

i'm assuming because it was in place before i came that the reason was they were looking at this language and determining that highway or freeway, and not considering a city street. but upon further investigation, we found out the highway also includes the city street, but if you read the language and you think highway or freeway, i don't know if that was the issue , but we learned learn something with that. that is -- there is another section that goes beyond it. it says the subdivision be that says it does not prohibit the vehicle from being without cover while in the process of acquiring its load. if no law requires that it be covered in those circumstances. these trucks are rolling up and down the street all day long, and i think if they read these two, they may have not considered the streets as being a highway, two because they are

loading the tracks continuously until they get full, and then they go to the dump. they may stop along the way. i think those demand interpretations as to why they weren't doing it. i can't state that because when i came, that was the practice. i have been in the department now for 14 years. >> i guess the question is, are we changing that practice? >> yes, we are. >> and how have you communicated that? >> what we have done is we have trained them right now to not load above the sidewalks of the truck, and make sure the load is carrying heavy materials. we have done a quote and looked at getting a system. we have concerns about employees climbing up into the truck as it is because that is a safety -- i have a safety concern about that when there is a full load. we are looking at getting these systems that will allow the employees to be outside of the truck and pull that down.

that will go into next year's budget requests for the trucks. >> and also, i don't know exactly what the regulations is when something is sticking out of the back, and everybody is aware of that by now. >> yes. you also mentioned that you have these regular meetings, and in listening to you describe it, it sounded like it was more managed and they needed to sit down and look at what's going on and what kind of things, what regulations you are not complying to. do you have regular meetings with the loaders, or the people who get to the trucks? or is that the tailgate thing you are talking about. >> they are required to do that. we also have a monthly, each of the bureaus have a monthly safety meeting where they meet and the superintendent talks to

them, but they also get feedback , and it is all around safety. we also have a safety committee for operations that is made up from the top to the bottom. there is about 20 members all the way up to managers, and they meet quarterly to talk about safety issues, things that have come up, and also things that we can do different things we can do better. >> and in regards to the over eight overweight trucks, do you see a pattern if there is one or two drivers that keep doing this overweight, and how do you address that? >> that is where we have started end to be honest, we weren't reviewing the dump packs on a regular basis. we did get our tenant report, but we were not reviewing individual tracks. we have gotten into a more sophisticated system over here and now we are -- the report

that comes to us now has all the information on it and we also have a calculated view for determination of the truck if it is overweight or not. so then we will look at the individual driver and have a conversation with them. we look at the truck vehicle to determine if there's a problem and if we need to market to a certain height. >> in your presentation, you pointed out that the 28,000, i guess. the 29,000 dump entries over the past year, that there were 103 overweight. of course, anything -- any safety issues near to zero is the best, but i am wondering also, to be fair, do you know if in comparison to this city, are

the other large cities that are doing dumping, is this a normal rate or is this a low rate? >> i would have to do a little bit of research on that. that is one question i would like to find out. the potential is always there when you are loading a vehicle that has come in slightly overweight. that potential is always there. and the c.h.p. is constantly checking for overweight vehicles because they do know that it does happen. that is a responsibility of the operator and of the department to make sure that it doesn't. >> and then, i guess this is less about the regulations, but i noticed that for the sand pick up, that this is a front end loader. >> there are 16 of those, or

just a few of them. >> there two front end loaders. >> and the reason why you have that is so that the sweepers and whatever they are called don't have to go back and forth? >> they don't have to go all the way to the dump. it is much more efficient, and also it is more safe as well. we would rather the sweepers be spending as much time sweeping and not making shifts back and forth to the dump. >> i notice you have a lot of the smaller trucks, which is only one time? >> yes. >> and they are all over the city also? >> yes. >> is there any reason why we don't have the same sort of set up for these chocks where there dumping to bigger tracks so they don't have to go back and forth? >> we do. we have a couple of different locations where they can dump. those trucks will fill up two times, sometimes three times a day. what you are seeing is the last load. we have packages that are at

various stages in various parts of the city. they will meet at a designated time to offload. >> and how many are there? >> we have two. >> just 2432 trucks? and where are they? >> geographically, one has -- one will be the northwest area of this city, and the other will be the southeast. >> i just want to -- i just want to understand this better. thirty-two little trucks running around, and two big trucks i get loaded into, and most of the little trucks going back and forth to the dumpsters,. >> they will do to load today, three loads a day and they will meet once we have gotten the first load which is around 9:30 a.m., and they may have and

then the last load ends up at the dump,. >> thank you. thanks for your patients. >> i just have a couple of things to hit on. during this time, at least since i've been here. we have had no citations. we have had no accidents, and we have had no reported drops from this. it is our responsibility to pick it up. that is the other reason for not necessarily having the talked -- the tarp. if they see something, the perception is really bad for us, and it is not what we do. if you see a track going by instead of street cleaning, there are two bags over there and you are on the way to the dump and you just leave them. that is what the public sees. that is not what we do. >> got it. okay, supervisor walton might have some questions. >> thank you for coming out today. i just wanted to say this is important because we have really

focused on keeping our streets clean and dealing with dumping and removing debris. it is also important that we keep our employees safe and the public safe. i know that overloading trucks what types of things could be because for that. i do appreciate the change in protocols and really learning more about what individual tracks and what individual employees are doing in terms of overfilling trucks because that is important. as you know, we have a high concentrated area of a lot of dumping going on. we expect quick and good responses, but i also want to make sure that folks are safe, and i do appreciate the changes and shifts you have made, but particularly after some of the findings. >> thank you. >> thank you very much for your presentation. i would like to open it up for public comment at this point.

is that okay? >> absolutely. i would just say that folks of up to two minutes, please state your first and last name for the record. if you have any written comments , give them to our clerk we ask that folks not repeat prior messages from other folks. first speaker. >> i find it real disgusting that you have the city attorney here talking about federal law and you were following federal law rules and regulations. first of all, the street cleaning of the department of public works, you have a violation of title vii of the employment discrimination law code pertaining to the unequal pay act. you have a detail that is being paid, $186,000 a year, plus benefits and retirement plan. then you have employees that work, that get paid a dollar two or three more than minimum wages

that is a violation of the unequal pay act. is that clear? and this flows with the administration. you have exempt employees that have been working for five or 25 years for the city and county of san francisco, with no benefits, no healthcare, and no retirement plan. then you have other employees that are doing the same god damn work, that has health care, retirement and annuity plan. so you guys have numerous violations of laws that you claim your enforcing. it is not fair. >> i will stop your time for a moment, direct your comments to the panel. >> i'm directing my comments to anyone who is listening, don't interrupt me. i don't appreciate you cutting off on me like that. by the same response, they are quick to react because a lot of the people who went to the city

are clean or females. they are cleaning up stuff off the sidewalk and they are not getting paid like the poops? detail. it is a violation of the act of 1964 where you're discriminating your discriminating based on sex if you want to do your job, we need to check them on that. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good morning to everybody here attending to the board of supervisors and everybody that will be listening to my message. i'm here trying to represent workers for all of the city departments. public works is one of the people, one of the companies

that have a serious issue with a worker safety and safety with their vehicles. i will give you in example. fly s.f.o., or s.f.o. maintenance, there is a truck driver there that has a problem with always being overloaded. he has been overloaded every time he has to make a trip out to the area, and he know that the c.h.p. lets them roll by. as a professional, is a commercial driver, he knows that he is -- he also has a responsibility, you know, to not be overloaded. regarded over -- regarding overloaded vehicles, it is important that we have safety meetings not just once every two weeks, but every day. a supervisor needs to be like a preacher man, you know, someone who is educating the workers how to go out and deal with the public, and not to be so