our capacity to be on site to work with the staff in the school to help problem solve to help young people and practitioners to understand the role of the juvenile justice system and what the alternative options are. that is an incredibly valuable resource. we are not seeking to implement an informal probation or supervision program with young people in the schools. it's clear part mandate for the state is not only to respond young people who are arrested and refer to the juvenile

justice system to keep young people from coming to the system. partnership with the school personnel, problem solving with young people who are in crises, direct engagement are also some of the things that we have seen can be beneficial to youth when there's a school-based probation officer. >> it does sound liking for you're 12-year-old meetin meetih a probation officer it seems stigmatizing. is there -- i don't know. i'm not doing that work. are they identify as probation officer?

>> it varies by setting. when we had this in place the probation officer became and almost seemless addition to the staff in that environment. they brought with them their expertise of the juvenile justice system problem solving with young people in crises and offering referrals. >> supervisor mandelman: do you have data on outcomes, success of that particular intervention? >> it was a very short-term program. i can look and see if we had any evaluation that was conducted. i can share that information with you. i'm also aware there are other school-based probation officers in other jurisdictions. >> supervisor mandelman: that would be interesting. what does a probation officer

facilitating cognitive intervention group mean? >> thank you for that question. this is rethinking probation. i wish i can say this is relatively new concept. it is not. it's a concept that's existed for the better part of last two decades. essentially these are probation officers that are meeting with groups of young people in are on probation. having conversations about their choices that they make. [please stand by]

>> and so our anticipation was at some point, we may need to have the capacity to fill that gap and utilize those resources. since we did not immediately return those young people back to log cabin ranch, i would agree at this point maintaining the positions in the budget is certainly not necessary. however, in light of the conversations that we've been

having and about the blue ribbon panels to juvenile having, reinstating those positions at some later date may be of value. >> supervisor mandelman: and how hard would that be? is it hard to create a position? nope? >> creating a new position just requires the approval of the mayor and the board, which i don't want to emphasize that is not always an easy task. we had instructions from the mayor this year to not add new positions to departments. >> supervisor mandelman: and in a future budget, the positions already exist. >> but it's certainly available to the mayor and the board. >> supervisor mandelman: and how are you thinking about -- you've got a lot going on now, but how are you thinking about log cabin ranch?

how are you going to come to conclusions about log cabin ranch? do you think it's going to go to a panel or what are you thinking around the use of log cabin ranch? >> i think log cabin ranch is a unique conversation in and of itself. >> supervisor mandelman: and we had a whole hearing on it, right? >> i think that beyond its most recent utilization post dispositional residential facility for youth in the yufl justice system, that there is an opportunity to think more broadly as to what purpose log cabin ranch could serve to the city. i think spending $9 million a year to service 8 or 9 young people in that facility was not

sustainable. so i would love to see log cabin ranch be maximized for its utilization for whatever purpose it might serve in the city. and if there is a role for young people in the juvenile justice system -- and there are a sufficient number of young people who would benefit from that environment, i would love to see that, as well. but at this point, our position is we want to see what the recommendations are that come out of the blue ribbon panel. and to the extent that there is some value with respect to log cabin ranch in those recommendations, we would certainly be interested in pursuing them. >> supervisor mandelman: okay. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> chair fewer: yes. >> president yee: thanks, chief nance, for waiting. >> certainly. >> president yee: in regards to the pilot project you talked

about at the middle school, what year do you know that was approximately? was it a long time ago or something? >> it wasn't that long ago, and we were partnering with viz valley middle school at the time. and it was between -- i was to say between 2014 and 2016, i want to say, but don't hold me to that. i can certainly check and get the accurate dates for you. >> president yee: and do you remember the principal's name here? >> what. >> president yee: was that vincent chow? durkee. >> i think it was principal durkee, and that was part of a grant that we received from the state. >> president yee: i guess would you describe what this individual who moit be going

ingoing -- mighti be going into middl school be doing? what's the purpose of somebody else who's more knowledgeable in terms of skills and truth dynamic interaction? i don't know without understanding what's going on. >> what i've seen is when school-based probation officers are present is because they understand the nature of the kinds of situations and behaviors that land a young person in the juvenile justice system, and because of their knowledge and expertise of some of the programs, services, and resources that work specifically with youth in the

juvenile justice system, that they have been of tremendous value to not only the teachers, but the counselors and school investigators. and being able to sit around the table and consult on truancy behaviors or behaviors in the classroom or borderline conduct has been extremely valuable, especially when those problems can be solved at the lowest level without resulting in a young person being referred to the juvenile justice system. so that is where that value has been tremendous. and again, i think that when we look at the middle school ages young people that come through the juvenile justice system, in looking at the patterns where some of these young people are being referred from, that that is absolutely something that we should do. and i might also add that we had folks from the community

that have reached out to the probation department asking for a school-based probation officer being able to them in that capacity. obviously, it's not something we can do at every school, but if it's something we can do for certain young people that attend certain schools, it would seem that's consistent with our goals and perspectives with respect to prevention. >> president yee: yeah. you know, i don't know much -- i haven't seen much research -- i'm sure there's been some research in terms of that particular situation. we do so much of our work, social justice issues, and whether it's systems that we want people to be knowledgeable about, we do that work through nonprofits, and they find staff that's probably knowledgeable in those areas -- and again, i

don't know if it's more effective, less effective if a bona fide probation officer that shows up -- is this something that shows up in uniform. >> no. >> president yee: it doesn't matter for the kids to see an adult and know something. >> correct. and our work is not at that level. it is not limited to young people who are active on protection. and while there may be -- >> president yee: no, i'm -- >> and while there may be people on probation in that same school, and to the extent that they are, that person serves as a liaison between that school and the juvenile justice people that are involved in the system. >> president yee: well, i'm going to go out on a limb

because i don't understand the issue and it's presented by supervisor ronen that -- i'm not so sure that i'm going to come to any conclusion, but the question that i have is this -- this -- but the impact of having somebody describe some of the stuff that you're talking about is useful. i can see another pathway to that, which is to maybe use some of those resources is -- since you didn't hire anybody that, use some of the staff savings to actually contract out to some nonprofits, when organizations that maybe -- some organizations that may have some expertise or not.

maybe they could hire some probation officers so they're coming from the community. i don't know if that makes any difference. i'm just thinking out loud and not having any conclusion. so if that's the direction then that this group of people here sitting next to me would like to take it, is it possible in terms of restructuring the finances to do that? >> i can certainly have that conversation with our team. i'm not clear to the extent that we can take salaries and benefits and redirect them in that way when they were originally allocated. although i would imagine to the extent that the board is interesting in reallocating the resources, that there could be

a pathway to get there. i think most importantly what i've heard in the question is whether or not there's an opportunity to identify someone other than a probation officer to perform the tasks and serve the role that i described. and while i think that perhaps there are some of those roles and responsibilities that could be effectively served by a community based person, that there are others specifically as they relate to the juvenile justice system, the juvenile probation department and its work that would be better served by a probation officer. >> president yee: and i'll just leave it at that. i think i'm just trying to be open to the concept of -- >> yes. >> president yee: one of the most difficult age to work with is students -- high school students. i've taught at every level, and

i find that middle school students are sort of grownup to be adults, but they're not quite there. and sometimes, some of the kids that have the most challenges at middle school, they tend to also unfortunately drop out by the time they go to high school. so it's really, to me, a crucial age to reach these students. >> yes, i would completely agree. and to the earlier point with respect to the school-to-prison pipeline, we want to have a chance to engage those students in crisis before they end up in the juvenile justice system. unfortunately, for far too many of them, that is precisely what happened. >> president yee: thank you. >> you're welcome.

>> chair fewer: supervisor ronen? >> commissioner renn >> supervisor ronen: yes, colleagues, kind of continuing with supervisor yee's comments around the budget, we are the last line of protecting the taxpayer dollars. over the last few years, the amount of children that j.d.p. is responsible for has declined by 67%, and yet, the staffing has only declined by 7%. that's a 60% difference, and i feel like we have fallen asleep at the wheel here in terms of being fiscally prudent in overseeing this organization. i never want to cut where it leads to a layoff, so we're looking at where are the vacant positions in the budget where we can do something here? of course kids in middle school

need extra support. it's one of the worst times in a child's life. los angeles just pulled all of their probation officers out of the middle school precisely partially because of that -- the stigma that supervisor mandelman was talking about, but because that's not the best entity to provide that nurturing, that mental support at that really, really tender age. we decided as a board -- i know supervisor stefani wasn't in agreement, but we want to do a radical reform by closing down city hall. if we do it all at once, that's

a really irresponsible way -- juvenile haull. if we do it all at once, that's irresponsible. the person that we're contracting with to oversee our blue ribbon panel, david mohamed, a nationally recognized expert is saying probation officers should never be providing its cognitive therapy, it's crazy we're considering this new position in j.p.d.s budget before this blue ribbon panel has a chance to make its recommendations. so i would ask that you support this today.

we know -- perhaps the budget and lemgs lay tiff analyst can speak -- legislative analyst can speak to this. we know that juvenile hall is grocery overstaffed, and we know that we have a very big undertaking in front of us in 2.5 years that we should not do in one fell swoop but that we should prepare for over time. so i would again ask the budget committee to support this proposal. >> chair fewer: supervisor mandelman? >> supervisor mandelman: and i'm hearing more from the department about this proposal after you digest it more as to whether this is the best idea and why. can you make address the observation that supervisor ronen has made about the

disconnect between a declining -- is that right, the number of youth you're responsible for in juvenile hall has declined on a great magnitude, but the staffing of j.p.d. has not. what are your thoughts about how that would come into better alignment and how these positions relate to recognizing some kind of savings as the responsibility as the department seems to have shrunk. >> i think it's an excellent and legitimate question, supervisor mandelman. i think the best way to describe and the most succinctly way to describe what appears to be a disconnect between the staffing and the

numbers has a lot to do with now you is specific our work has become over the past decade. and if you were to look at what the standards were, even with respect to how services are delivered to people in custody, there has been tremendous expectations in the way that service is delivered. there have been substantial changes in the regulatory requirement associated with running a juvenile hall. so for example, a decade ago, young people probably spent far more time in their rooms than they do today, and as a result, the level of engagement required of the staff was far less significant. whereas you fast forward to where we are today, where young people spend the vast majority of today out of their rooms,

with the exceptions of two hours during the waking hours and ten hours overnight. so as a result of that, these officers are much more interactive, far less observational. we have multiple programs in agencies simultaneously. we've maintained that san francisco's juvenile hall is unique in a variety of circumstances, first and foremost, the level of supervision in our schools and c.b.o.s, but the fact that we're not operating remotely

with cameras, and the staff are carrying pepper spray to dispel conflicts and other problems that young people may have. so i would say that as the numbers have gone down, we've been far more selective in the way we've focused our attention and resources and quite honestly, the risk assessment. the low-risk people are not finding their way to juvenile hall, so what is left are young people that require a high degree of management, psychiatric care, and behavior management, and that simply cannot be done with fewer staff. so to conclude as the standards have changed, as the regulatory commitment has changed, as our services have changed, so has

the left of engagement and staff required in order to deliver that high level of care. >> supervisor mandelman: but you can understand tof skepticism, and you would probably expect, i would think, reduced costs, quite frankly. >> yes. >> supervisor mandelman: of those four positions, it looks like at least two in the halls. the two probation officers -- >> none of the positions are in the hall. >> supervisor mandelman: are in the haul. >> and it represents a separate division. >> supervisor mandelman: and what is the balance of budget

and employees in the hall, out of the hall -- and you don't have to answer this for me right now, but i'd be curious. >> so in our budget presentation, and i'd have to look back at the slide. i'm going to consult with my staff. do you have the breakdown by division, the percentage of our budget? [inaudible] >> supervisor mandelman: you can get this to me. >> we can get this to you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. >> but there are currently 35 probation officers whose

responsibility it is to work with young people who are not in custody but to work with the youth -- and to work with the youth as they are detained. i know there's been a lot of discussion about the cost of operating juvenile hall, but at the end of the day, that cost equates to about $42 an hour per hour per juvenile. that's what we're spending to service san francisco's youth in juvenile hall. >> chair fewer: oh, i'm so sorry. paying attention. i was listening -- and i wanted to just mention, chief -- so chief, i want to say having been on the school board for 8 years, and then also having been an advocate for the schools in the southeast part of san francisco, you know, i'm sorry, but i don't agree. i just don't think probation officers should be in middle

schools. students start middle schools sometimes at 10 years of age. this is why we're looking at putting our peer counseling into -- also, i don't believe that police officers should be in our schools. we used to have police officers in all of our schools. but it is because police officers and probation officers are really associated with the juvenile justice system, with a justice system, and i think that what we're looking at is at the school district, we've invested a lot in counselors, we've invested a lot in wellness centers, we've invested a lot in i think a lot of these types of support around especially for our lgbtq use also which we find through our studies also are three

times, four times more likely to have depression and be suicidal. these issues that come out around that middle school age, it is a very odd age. they come in 4'2", they leave 5'2". if any of you have had middle schoolers, you know the transformation is tremendous. and so i don't believe that probation officers should be in middle schools. i think it might have worked at one time or maybe in a different area, but i think in san francisco what we're looking at is more of a holistic way of looking at it. with san francisco kids, the problems and challenges that they have, it's sometimes not one simple issue, it's many complex issues that even we don't have control of. it's about generational also poverty or things that i think

society actually intensefies. i just think with social media, there is no forgiveness. you know, i think we all mess up. and with social media, it is not just out there to your school, but to thousands and thousands of people, and it's forever. i think the idea of a probation officer really understandtion or being skilled to do -- understanding or being skilled to do -- or meet those needs, i just kind of don't think it should be there. so i just wanted to say that. having been in these schools, and i think supervisor yee was sort of probably thinking about all the supports that we've put in for counselors, and we do that actually funded through the city money that the city so generously gave us through a

charter amendment, that most of that money goes to counselors, it goes to peer counselors, but it goes to our wellness centers where the staff have degrees in family counseling. and i've seen this group. they choose this group that with really communicate with youth and communicate with them. these people, i've seen them in the schools, and there's a level of comfort and trust, and i think that is super important. so i just want to say even in the positions to facilitate wellness groups, they do that at the intervention centers and beacon centers. i think that i have to say that i strongly say that it is not the place for them, and -- yeah, and i'm sorry that we disagree. >> no, thank you for that

feedback. i appreciate it. >> chair fewer: and i appreciate you actually trying to make a difference here. so thank you. i just wanted to tell my colleagues how i was feeling about that. thank you. >> thank you. >> supervisor ronen: yeah. i just wanted to mention if you -- why haven't you considered repurposing or why doesn't this committee consider repurposing some of the staff at juvenile hall that they can then use for this purpose if it -- i mean, i still think it doesn't make any sense to start these new programs, and it's contrary to the evidence and what experts in the field say is the best practice, but they have -- i mean, 19 of the staff from log cabin were sent to staff juvenile hall above and

beyond the staff that was there when the population declines 60%. so this makes no sense whatsoever why we would be adding new positions is just beyond me. that's all. >> if i may respond to supervisor ronen's comments, i think it's important that we move these log cabin ranch counselors in juvenile hall into vacant juvenile hall positions, which is why there's an opportunity to talk about cutting positions from log cabin ranch. at the same time, as a result of doing that, we have reduced our reliance on as-needed employees, cutting that cost by close to 50%. we've reduced overtime costs in juvenile hall, as well, and so

we'll probably fall close to $900,000 instead of the $1.2 million from last year. and that's only in the short period of time that we've been able to have those log cabin ranch counselors on-line. they had to be trained, they had to perform observations before they could perform as full-time employees. so i anticipate that over the course of the next fiscal year that we will realize even additional savings by having made that transition. and so it isn't as though

that -- >> chair fewer: would that be okay with you? okay. supervisor ronen, would that be fine? okay. that's great. chief, would that be okay? >> absolutely. >> chair fewer: would we require the chief to come back in attendance? >> i'm happy to be here. >> chair fewer: are you? okay, sir. you've been here all day? >> if you can put me first?

>> chair fewer: why are you making a face, mr. b.l.a.? >> i don't know that we'll have those at the beginning of the meeting, but i can talk to the chief -- >> i will defer to the controller. >> chair fewer: thank you so much for your patience, chief. sorry, mr. mandelman. >> supervisor mandelman: well, i was wondering, we want to get this done by tomorrow rather than giving them until monday or tuesday. >> chair fewer: yeah, tomorrow because then we know what we're dealing with because we really don't know. okay. so i would make a motion -- are there any other items before us? no, this is it. okay. than thank goodness. i wanted to make a motion to continue items 1 and 2 to the budget and finance committee hearing tomorrow. do i have a second?

thank you. supervisor mandelman. and there's no further business before us. this meeting's adjourned. thank you, everyone. supporters of the eagle plaza.

[cheers and applause] this morning, i was honored, my business partner, mike leon. on this historic day. i want to take the warmest welcome possible to the honorable mayor london breed, supervisor haney, supervisor mandelman. the greatest community, members of the leather and lgbt cultural district and the friends of eagle plaza. we're all here today after a long road. great accomplishments. eagle plaza started as an idea.

six years ago my business partner and i met, built and have a conversation about breaking ground for construct, where we floated idea of the construction of the plaza. between the san francisco eagle bar and the construction. a plaza unique to the world that will honor the leather and lgbt communities, serve as a focal part for them to have events. and now this idea is about to come true. it's fitting this was elected for the first public plaza dedicated to the leather community. it's been the home for this community for decades. a special thanks to supervisor haney and mandelman for introducing and pushing forward

the legislation to permit the construction of eagle plaza. [cheers and applause] without their efforts, eagle plaza would still remain as an idea. i would like to thank all of those who contributed financially to eagle plaza and to my eagle family for their support. and, of course, the most special thanks to mayor breed, who removed road blocks, constantly moved the project forward to where we're here today at the ground-breaking of eagle plaza. i would like you to extend the warmest welcome to our mayor, london breed. [cheers and applause] >> >> mayor breed: thank you so much. i am so excited to be here today. we're going to have one of the

most beautiful plazas in san francisco. i remember when it first became mayor and i knew that this idea had started over six years ago when state senator scott wiener was on the board of supervisors and i know a lot of the work he did helped to get us to this place. but i was really frustrated over the two years of bureaucracy. we already had the support. we already had the plan. and the city bureaucracy continued to delay this project. so two years delay was just really unacceptable. so when i first became mayor, i made this one of my first directives and we got the approvals done in three months. so i'm really proud -- [applause] -- that we were able to work together to accomplish that goal. in addition to that, because this was such an amazing community-driven project, $200,000 from the community

college grant was made possible to help fund this project. the work from build inc. and i want to thank lauren seguin for being here, as well as the folks from the park alliance and the friends of eagle plaza, you all came together to make this incredible project possible. and i also would like to say a special thank you to senator scott wiener who put $100,000 in the state budget so we can have the additional support that we need. but here's the good news. we know that there is still a $50,000 funding gap and so that we can focus on the work and not on the resources needed to get the work done, i work with supervisor mandelman to come up with the $50,000 that we need to get this project done. [cheers and applause]

>> mayor breed: so to the folks of the leather and the lgbt community and this cultural district that was made possible for the purposes of celebration coming together. and in the spirit of pride month here in san francisco that celebrates inclusiveness and love and all great things we are here in our great city, i would like to say congratulations and thank you all for your hard work. i know when this plaza is completed, it's going to be used by so many people, to hang out, drink coffee, read, and celebrate and all the great things we do that make san francisco such a unique and special place for people to visit and live here. thank you, all, so much. [applause]

>> now i'd like to present a very special award that the san francisco eagle bar to a very special person. this is called the leather feather. and it's given in recognition of someone who not only has supported the leather community in a special way, but performed extraordinary service in doing so. so for making eagle plaza a reality, eagle bar is honored to present the leather feather to the san francisco mayor london breed. >> mayor breed: thank you. >> thank you so much. >> mayor breed: thank you. [applause] >> i want to have you guys now with bob, the chair of the leather and lgbt cultural district. [applause]

>> i am proud to be here for this historic event and the leather district is delighted to have the eagle plaza in our district. and we look forward to its use as a gathering point in the district. i have the honor of introducing rafael mandelman, the district supervisor and native san franciscan. he supported the leather community even before he ran for supervisor and can be seen in local venues periodically. [laughter] now he's reaching out beyond his district's boundaries to take real action to help make spaces like the eagle plaza come into being. his actions to make spaces for leather communities will keep this neighborhood's historic vibrant which will help perpetuate the city as a city for tolerance and acceptance. with that, i present to you

rafael mandelman. [applause] >> supervisor mandelman: good morning, everybody. this is such a wonderful morning and as i look out at this crowd of gorgeous people who are doing amazing things in our city for so many causes and communities. i see race bannon. race always deserves a round of applause. [applause] san francisco is a city that does not forget its history. we build on our history. we celebrate our history and make new things happen next to old things and that is part of the magic of the city. and i'm so pleased that this plaza is -- as the mayor said, it took a little longer than would have been ideal, but it is now finally happening. i want to say just a few -- maybe a year ago, or a couple of years ago, we were worried about whether there even would be an eagle, right?

more than a few years ago, but the community came together and city hall responded and now not only is the eagle still here, it's still a place to enjoy on sunday afternoons and all the time. and thank you so much, lex and mike, but now we have not only the eagle, but this amazing plaza coming here. so thank you, all, for coming out. thank you all for coming out. but have a very, very happy pride. [applause] >> thank you, supervisor mandelman. i now have the proud honor of introducing district 6 supervisor matt haney. i met matt when he reached out to the leather and lgbt district when running for office. he expressed support for our community then and is following through with his action.

it's these spaces that form a community and those spaces for the leather and lgbtq communities are under constant threat in this neighborhood. matt haney is not only talking about preserving the culture here, he's sponsoring legislation to preserve the spaces that make soma a destination for people across the country and around the world. the fact that he is here today showing support for the eagle plaza is one sign of his commitment to the communities. with that, i present to you supervisor haney. >> supervisor haney: thank you, bob. well, i want to say this one more time. this is going to be the world's first public plaza dedicated to the leather community. isn't that incredible? world first. and not only is it the world's first public plaza dedicated to the leather community, it is in the world's first cultural

district dedicated to the lgbtq community. give it up for that as well. bob, tremendous leadership. i want to thank all of you who worked hard to make this happen. sf parks alliance, mayor breed, supervisor mandelman, senator wiener. this is an extraordinary effort that made this happen. far too often the things that make this city wonderful, the things that built this culture, created our identity, the institutions, the businesses, are the ones that are constantly under attack. and sadly that's been the case here in western soma as well for the leather community. and with what we're doing today, the city is finally saying, not only are we going to preserve those institutions and that culture, we're going to celebrate it, have a permanent home for it in our city and we're going to do it in western soma. there is no west soma without

the leather community. i'm excited about the future of this plaza for a number of reasons. also because we need more open space in this part of the city. soma and west soma has some of the least amount of open space, parks, places for people to relax, to bring their dogs, hang out. and i know this can be an extraordinary open space. i may not have been to many leather events, but i have been here for the beer bust a couple of weeks ago. and this is a community that knows how to come together to have a good time. i want to give a shoutout to a group of people. i want to shout out to the construction workers behind us, who are actually going to build this thing. for all of their hard work, we're going to put on hard hats, but they do the work every day. thank you so much.

t thank you all for being here. we'll champion the leather district, the eagle and the plaza. thank you, all, for being here. >> good morning, everyone. my name is victor, i'm the communications director for senator scott wiener. this is a project he has spent a lot of energy working with lex and mike for the last six years to make this happen. he was very proud to get in the budget $100,000 to help make this a reality. [applause] i want to thank mayor london breed as well for her continued support of the plaza, as well as supervisor mandelman and haney. the leather community has always played an important role in the lgbtq community. at the height of the h.i.v. epidemic, the community stepped up to raise funds for h.i.v.

care, research and care for the entire community and continues to do that to this day. this plaza will serve to commemorate that and to continue to allow that work to happen. i want to thank you all for being here today and all of you that helped make this happen today. thank you so much. [applause] i'd like to bring up lauren from build inc. >> thanks. i don't know where to start. i mean, so many aspects of this are important. people think of us as developers, but really we're urban place-makers and this exemplifies the work that is important to us, every project we do. the neighborhood makes its place and has influence on what we can do there. so this is amazing. for my partners, on behalf of my

partners, our whole build group, the team at the office, this is the work that is meaningful, rewarding and just makes it all worth while. so thanks to mayor breed, to supervisor mandelman, haney, lex and the whole community to help make this happen. it takes a village and this is our village. thank you. let's dig dirt and make it happen! [applause] we have shovels right here. let's go dig. >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1! turn that dirt! woo hoo! [applause] love that. that's a great shot.

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>> okay, hello, everyone. the meeting will come to order. this is the june 21, 2019 special meeting of the budget and finance committee. i'm chair of the budget an