conditions of the contract of the particular some each day through substantial completion and another some, 2500 before substantial and 500 if i am not mistaken through substantial and final. that all adds up against the -- across the span of time that has not been found to be acceptable to the city. the costs are all that, which is on behalf of the department. we do appreciate the imposition and inconvenience for the general discussion of the project. these are monies that are meant to speak to the capital improvements of the project, not to other expenses that don't belong to the project proper. we had a separate fund for furniture fittings and equipment to outfit the facility and i'm

not quite sure what other expenses outside this occurred or manifested that weren't covered by that, but we largely provided for the outfitting of the facility of virtue of a separate pool of funds. let me bring up magdalena to speak to anything that i missed as far as factors contributing to the calculation of the liquidated damages. >> before you get to that point, i know that personally there were a bunch of items that the members of the department had to pay for themselves such as kitchen wares and stuff like that. is it possible to make that stuff, to perhaps? the department to find out what stuff will be livable so that they could cover that stuff as well? >> it was managed by the department itself. not to bookmark on the spot here but mark was involved with

procurement of the outfitting of that which was dedicated to fire station, whether there is any money still on balance, i can't speak to, maybe mark could if -- >> i'm just curious as to why certain things were the obligation of the members as opposed to the fund, if it existed. >> did you want the mic? >> there are certain things that the department and the city pays for and some things that they don't. we don't pay for silverware, glassware, dishware, that kind of stuff in the kitchen. we initially pay for, especially in a new fire station, we will pay for all of the appliances in terms of dishwashers, stove, refrigerator, but the only thing

-- what is it we only replace? stoves and dishwashers, correct? the rest is up to the membership >> is that a department role or a city rule? >> department. maybe we can visit that especially if there is a fund that has been set up to revisit those things. >> sure we could. but what i have seen is it is really important for members to have a buy-in and take ownership of some of the stuff that is in their stations. >> i get that. >> yes. >> okay. that answers that question. >> thank you. [laughter] >> good afternoon, commissioners i can confirm that what charles provided to you, the numbers are correct. we have approximately 470,000 in

retention. and i calculated our expenses that is construction managers, and our design team additional time and it amounts to approximately $450,000. >> when you say our team, that is the department of public works, so the fire department will not get any of that money. >> i did not calculate any time that was spent by the department or its representatives in this calculation. this is calculation of 450,000 based on public works team and additional time spent. >> okay. perhaps maybe the next time we write one of these product -- contracts, we could write something that compensates the fire department for its damages when they go over because as you acknowledged yourself, they are suffering themselves and having to be at other stations.

if you could add that to the contract, it would be appreciated on behalf of the fire department. >> it would be important to understand the legal way of recouping the impact of that inconvenience. if you are renting someplace and he had to stay there year-long, that cost can be recouped very plainly, but doubling up at a particular station, how do you put a dollar value on that that stands up to the legal scrutiny of an image -- imposition? that is something we can look at , certainly. >> that is the whole point of the liquidated damages position. i think in our next contracts, we should consider the value of the imposition on the fire department for every day that the project isn't delivered to the members as they have to spend the night in a doubled up apartment. >> that is a good idea. we should work with the department to understand the true cost, it has to be legitimate on scrutiny as an

impact cost. >> i am aware of that. great. >> we will work with the department. >> we have a future consideration of the department in these contracts. >> absolutely. >> inc. you so much. i appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> thank you very much. commissioners, in terms of questions or comments, at this time? >> great report. >> thank you, commissioners. >> hold on. then i will have a few comments as well. >> hello again. >> hello it is good to see you. i do agree with the commissioner that that some consideration be given to the department and future legal documents as, you know, the terms related to liquidated damages, so i wanted to say that.

i also wanted to complement to your team on the work that has been done thus far using the easter bond money. the easter bond monies have been very important to the department and once those monies, once we knew that those monies were forthcoming, working with the department of public works, you know, as you mention station five and other stations, that have been either upgraded or our brand spanking new. the excitement excitements at the opening of these new stations is palpable. people are so happy to have a new home where everything works and nothing leaks and it is not cold when it is supposed to be hot. it really makes a tremendous difference of the members of the

department who work extremely hard making sure that the citizens of our city are safe and that visitors are safe and members of the department can make situations. even though we are talking about inanimate objects, things that go into fire houses, the firehouse itself, it does have quite a living impact upon the people who live in these facilities. this is their home away from home. this is the space that they share with their brothers and sisters and colleagues it is very important to have a nice facility. it is a way that the city -- that the citizens of the city, bypassing this bond have shown the appreciation for the work

that the members of the department do. so i thank you for your part in that effort. >> thank you very much. much appreciate it. >> thank you very much vice president covington. i will just ask a few questions and comments on a few. thank you so much. part of this presentation was that, at the last commission meeting, we had chief rivera come up and he gave us an awesome summary in terms of all the things that are included within his support services and one of the parts that we didn't have time for was the facility discussion, so we appreciate this very much and i appreciate the chief for making the arrangements so we can have you come out again. there was a press release that came out that was dated june 25 th that says board of supervisors unanimously support 629 million bond earthquake safety and emergency resilience. is that a whole separate bond

not attached to the easter bond? >> that is the easter 2020 bond. it is specifically 628.5. i guess they rounded up. >> right. so part of your presentation in terms of that inclusion is this bond. i'm just trying to get straight on this. >> the 275 that i highlighted for you is drawn from the 628.5. >> just for this contest. as the board of supervisors approves this, what is the next step that occurs behind that? >> it is slated for the march 2020 ballot. >> okay. >> there is a long way from here to there, but we will be continuing to work on a variety of projects within the easter 2014, most specifically relevant to you as far as station 35 that will take the trajectory mentioned. we also have the hose tower

projects that we are trying to mitigate the seismic risk and doing associated other work around generators, for example,. >> okay. , that is really great. this presentation ties into that because we had an extensive presentation on. thirty-five, the new fire built station. so it brings all the information can temporarily, so this is good news in terms of the process because you made reference to that at the last time that you made an appearance, which wasn't that long ago as well. just again, very mechanically and very basic, you talked about , on page 5, the fireboat station, and i thank you used the word celebration know in terms of one when that job starts or was it just completed. were -- will you be able to notify the commission and the department when those different -- >> absolutely. it is kind of a first to have a

barge such as this delivered to the city, and it would be perhaps the occasion for some celebration out at treasure island to see this barge unloaded from a much larger shift and placed in the water and delivered to pier one. i think that is worthy of some celebration at that point. >> quite frankly, i like the word celebration because we and the commission enjoy that, but also a barge is as large as we talked about coming from singapore, and the lord -- the last presentation, while we approved the process of moving along, was because of that whole pressure of the barge being built and delivered with ulcerative considerations as well to be delivered to san francisco. just as a point of information, there are members of the public that are watching. we understand easter bond and how that pay -- plays in. when you talk about on page 7, easter bond, you just want to

describe those relationships so that myself, and maybe the general public can have a comprehension. we have been opposed to this on page 7 and i know that you talked about station 49 off of the particular phs so i want to see how this all fits in. >> this particular slide, if i can have it up on the screen, pertains to focus scope drawn from both easter and public health and safety bonds, a proximally $42 million worth of very specific and focused improvements of the variety of stations, both stations and all stations that have received some intervention to improve or addressed efficiency that they had.

in that respect there is still work to do. and sherry could speak to it, but i won't make her come up here. we have several hundred million dollars of outstanding need with the focused alterations in the replacement of stations that are most vulnerable to the eventual big one, and the fact that we need to address that while the resources are available to do so the next bond after 20 isn't 2027. that is a long ways away to know what that some might be and what it will accrue to the fire department from that bond, this is -- there's pretty of lurk -- work that remains to be done. just as a point of clarification , when you talk about the focus scope funding, all of that funding source comes from the easter bond? >> the lion share of it, we receive 14 million from the

public health and safety bonds for focus spoke -- focus scope alteration projects. >> this is ongoing projects based off of the funding that occurs. >> correct. >> when it comes down to station 49, that is part of that focus bond on page 13? >> the ambulance facilities draw funding from the public health and safety bond program as you mentioned earlier. there is a history there as to how it got onto the bond, but suffice it to say, it is $58 million in total from the bond from the fire department. >> being the commissioner, maybe the commissioners have been on the commission for a long time, part of this, again, all of this information is accumulated over years in time, separated by

showers, by doors, by generators , and it is nice to be able to see accumulated presentation that encompasses everything and to find out where the funding source is and that is ongoing as we move into this new bond in terms of what we need to accomplish. at this particular point, everything is pretty secure it accept for new training facility >> right. as i said, hundreds of millions of dollars are needed. before now, before 2010, it had been arguably about 25 years since the department had received an appreciable some of money to address its facilities. our facilities don't last forever. like your own homes, you have to do occasional maintenance and repair or replacement style projects. we don't do that and facility start to degrade and become less reliable for the purpose for which they are intended to serve this bond came in time because they were the host and they

remain in this that need to get done and thankfully we have had two bonds under our belts, and one were coming up that i am optimistic. and then in the not too far distant future, there is a fourth one. we can spend as much money as they are willing to give us in very good and productive ways. >> okay. i really do appreciate that. all of us do. i know that when we went through the lead years, the concept of how we will repair basic needs for our members and our department was really troublesome as budget cuts occurred, as shower rooms and different kinds of facilities and stations, so as the other commissioners, i applaud your colleagues within d.p.w. for accomplishing all of this and i thank you to be able to comprehend during these years because when you start talking about the next bond at 2027, that is down the word road, but

you have been at this for a while and there is a lot of grateful members in this departments that are part of this. when you talk about the generator replacement program, the goal is for all of the stations to be replaced with generators? >> all those where the generator has not been addressed or route replaced in a more recent time, that is our intention. >> okay. he said optimistically that the public should support this bond. you talked about march 2020 when the bond comes out? >> march of 2020. as i mentioned in an earlier slide, the last two times we were at 80% voter support which i consider unanimous among voters. >> and you feel that same optimism? >> we have not done polling, but we have been led to understand that we are in that range of support currently and many months removed from the actual

election, that we will have a better sense of what voter support exists. i think we are at the same percentage of support in previous bonds when we tested the vulture's will. >> coming to an end, the previous bonds head benefits to the police department and others >> i shouldn't say that, but there were no police facilities other then the headquarters up until 2014, it was the first time we received monies for police stations. it was a modest amount, $30 million. i'm here to tell you that police stations are also beleaguered in different ways, of course, and they desperately need real investment from these bond programs. >> so the majority of the benefit of this bond would be the fire department. >> the flight -- the fire department is receiving the largest some of money in the next bond. if you consider the emergency

firefighting water system funding corollary to your own needs and benefit, it is a considerable some of money, the majority of the money on the bond for fire and fire related assets. >> okay. thank you very much. thank you very much for all of the members of your team. i appreciate it very much. >> thank you. >> madam secretary? >> item five, chief of department's report, report from the chief of the department on current issues, activities, and events within the department since a fire commission meeting on june 12th, 2019, including budget, academies, special events, communications and outreach to other government needs and the public and report from administration deputy chief josé fellow from administrative divisions, fleet and facility status updates, finance support services, homeland security and

training within the department. >> thank you very much. as always, we will have chief nicholson's report first and then we will have the report from the administration of the deputy chief. >> thank you. this is my report. since june 12th. myself and the chief are continuing our station meetings, going out and visiting all the stations. we're almost done. i think we have less than five left, so we are making good progress with that. the budget is not yet finalized. tonight is add back night so i will be scurrying out of here and down to the second floor after this to continue to advocate for the department. at the next commission meeting, i will have the final final in terms of what we've got done for

the budget. since june 12th, we had a labour-management meeting and we are off to a good start with them, and we are a partner with them in collaborating on our budget asks. things are going smoothly there. i have had two productive meetings with dr. colfax from the department of public health and with some of his high-level staff and members of the e.m.s. a, and we are committed to working on pilot programs and at their budget asks together and seeing what type of progress we can make. i am hopeful about that. i also, since june 12th, went and presented to the hospital council.

myself and maryellen carol, head of d.e.m., went and presented and because it is an entire system that is having trouble, the hospitals, the ambulances, all of us, so i put forward some solutions and i am hoping that we can work together with them as -- in terms of maybe some e.m.s. prevention pilot programs and the like. i will keep banging that drum with them. we also met with the testing unit from the department of human resources. we will be having -- we'll be having the next exam that is due is the paramedic captain's exam or age 33. we're hoping to have that in november. we are also working on seeing if we can change our current exam

practice that is to have the exam list last for three years and then we extend it for one year, but for some of these lists, we want it to be a two year list, with the possibility of extending it for one year. with the exception of the lieutenant's list, which is a very big list, but the others are smaller lists, and i think it would benefit the department to have these tests more frequently. so we are working towards that and the local 798 is in agreement with us on that and we do know it will have a small financial impact on us but we think the benefit will outweigh that. the new chase center that is supposed to open up in september , and in the first week in september, i think there will be multiple double events

happening, so one at giant stadium, and one at the warrior arena, so we have been in a lot of conversations. we have been proactive meeting with the mayor's office, the m.t.a., the warriors -- not the warriors themselves, but you know what i mean, chase center people and we will be running field-based scenarios in july in the neighborhood, actually bringing a full box there. code two, but to show them how things work and how difficult it will be, not just getting to watch -- to that center, but in the surrounding neighborhood. that is important that we have access to that entire area. we know the traffic will be difficult, we have been advocating for our own emergency lane, and we have yet to convince them of that, so we will be running these field

-based scenarios and then we will also be, once we do that , will be sitting down with them and running tabletop scenarios. so we are putting all of our cards out there and really advocating for the department and sort of telling them what our needs are because from the m.t.a. to, you know, others, they just sort of don't have a great understanding of how it is that we work and how big our apparatus are, and how difficult it is to navigate some of those streets. we are going to bring them out there and show them. thank you to those of you who came to the 125th class graduation last week. those young and freshfaced folks have started already, so that is

, as you know, and ongoing training and mentoring process. i want to talk a little bit about pride, which is coming up this weekend. we are up staffing for, not just for the march, before the days and events throughout this coming weekend. there will be an increase in people in the city and what comes with that is an increased volume of calls. [please stand by]

... and we're going to be deploying extra resources with the police and other units such as public works to make sure that we're all working together to keep everybody safe. we've done a ton of public outreach, working with other agencies as well. and some of the public outreach has been to getting members of the community to clear out their yards, have some defensible space around their buildings. and basically fining people for not clearing brush. and then having other agencies

go in and actually clear it for us. so that's ongoing. we're being proactive about that. and then also this past week, last week we met with a former assistant chief of ours, dave franklin, who now works for o.e.s in the states. we talked with him about mutual aid support and readiness, as well as resources in training. so that's a good relationship we have with him. and especially with all of the wildfires that are going on at this time. and then that concludes my report. >> thank you very much. at this point, i want to call for public comment on the report. any member of the public wishes

to give public comment. seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners, if you would like to ask questions? commissioner cleveland. >> thank you, mr. president and, thank you, chief, for your report. very brief. right to the point. couple of questions. on the promotion test and your efforts to have them more frequently, which is a good idea, but who decides that? who makes that decision as to how often we can have promotional tests? is it the department of human resources? >> we can determine that, but we do work with the department of human resources because they have only so many resources as well, so we want to be able to -- we need to make sure that they're able to meet our change in demand. just to be clear, the test that

have already happened, we're not changing those. so those have all been three-year tests with a one-year extension. we're not changing that, because the people that took those tests, that's what they expected. this is just moving forward. on all except for the exam. >> so the frequency is determined by h.r. resources and whether they have staffing to carry out the test. >> that is part of it, but it was our ask, we wanted it make, myself administration wanted to look at changing that. and we also have local 798 as an agreement with that. >> obviously they should be. >> but it is up to us, yeah. >> physical impacts are minor as you put it? >> yeah, there is a small fiscal impact, but i think the benefit will outweigh that because we'll

get the cream of the crop. so... >> okay. chase will be opening and we've talked about emergency lane. can you elaborate a little more on the emergency lane? and just what is that? and who decides? if we get one or where is it? >> so, yeah we've been in discussions with them for many months asking for an emergency lane. either on terry francois or third street. >> this is a red lane like muni is putting out for rapid bus transit? >> no. that is sort of what we're going to have to use right now, is that kind of lane or the muni tracks on third street. if traffic is difficult in that area, so, yeah, we asked for a lane on terry francois or third street just for emergency

response. but we have not -- we haven't been granted that. and this is, you know, part of the reason worry working with them to sort of show them what our needs are, and making sure that everybody knows that we came to the table asking and this is important to us. >> have you done -- have you been -- i mean have you really looked at the street, terry francois, the space, the opportunity to have the emergency lane. are we having to buy private property? >> there is the space, but there are traffic studies and the like. there is entire traffic program, you know, that the mayor has put together around traffic at chase center. so we're working diligently with

them. and with the lead from that on the mayor's office. >> so ultimately who makes the decision? >> ultimately, it's not up to us. >> right. >> i'm not sure if it's the mayor's office for -- yeah, it may be sfmta. we've been meeting with them as well. so, yeah. >> no, i think it's important that's why i'm asking. >> and it's not just to the chase center we're concerned about, we're concerned about the entire area. so, um hmm. >> brush clearing program you mentioned. who reports a property that has too much grass or too much debris or is a fire hazard? who reports that generally? and who make the determination that property is a fire hazard? >> i know we had outreach and i believe we had fire inspectors

going out to do that and notify people. >> so our department? >> yeah. i believe notifications went out to all sorts of different neighborhoods. and people were asked to comply. >> thank you very much. >> i figured it might be covered under the administration report, but just about the ongoing interviews that you're doing this week. and when those people will be notified that are being interviewed. and how many, it still a total of 54 in the class, is that our anticipation? >> yes, still looking at 54 in the class. some of those spots were already spoken for, from the alternates

in the last class. so we won't be picking 54 people. we're still looking at 12 people from station 49. but, yes, the class will be 54. and we're doing it all this week. and hopefully the first couple of weeks in july we're hoping to have a handle on it. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> may i just interrupt for one moment, back to you commissioner cleveland. so i just got a message that we work with public works. and it has some prevention staff as well. on the brush-clearing. but we're really proactive about it. >> chief nicholson. >> thank you, mr. president. i'll hold my questions.

>> thank you very much. at this point, deputy chief? in terms of administration report. good evening, chief. >> good evening, commissioners, president, vice president, chief, maureen. my second monthly report for the administration since last meeting. a couple of things i want to talk about. i give you the complete report. i want to touch on some of the highlights. and, of course, answer any questions you may have. some of the projects we've been

working on -- the committee and work groups. happy to say we have a lot of interest from the members that we need to move the department forward. 218 applicants for committees and work groups. it's a great number. we're currently reviewing. a few are still coming in, but we're working on creating that. the process, the chairs will be selected and the chairs will work with the administration selecting the committee members to work with that. we have guidelines we set up. and then we came up with the guidelines on how the committees are expected to work. the kind of products we want them to have. when they propose any changes, it has a fiscal effect on the department, also to provide information where the grants are possible for that and all those things. so we really want to work together to get things moving

along. we're happy with that number we received. another working on is the policy. we just put it out last week and we delivered to every single apparatus a deconkit. it's a bucket, a brush, special soaps, wipes and mask. the way we're doing this is with other policies to help the firefighters prevent cancer. the way it works, when they have heavy exposure to fire products, they will on the scene, decontaminate themselves on the scene. this procedure is the policy how to do it. there is also instructions on what they do when they come back. it's better to take a cold shower so the pores open up. some things will be on the policy to prevent even further

the contaminants. all these policies we have in place we believe will reduce the cancer. so we're happy with that. and it's up to -- we'll see. we have the picture of them. that will deliver to all the engine companies and truck companies on the field. update from training. as you recall, last commission meeting, we had our staff, learning in new york the studies. this is the studies. fiber ventilation, how it effects. where we can improve the policy and procedures reflecting those studies. he's pushing that for me and we work on those. as chief mentioned, we had the graduation for the academy. they're working in the firehouses. they receive over 700 hours of

training. and they receive the firefighter one certification from the state. so it's a good day for us when they graduated. these are pictures of them doing that. we also at the same time doing training. and that modular ends this friday. that module has been great because we've been able to use class a fuels instead of wooden pallets, that creates a different atmosphere than the ones with propane. the smoke is different, the ventilation effects are different. this created an atmosphere for firefighters to learn. it's been really positive. the members have really gained a lot from this experience. it ends friday. you might recall and president, thank you for attending this drill. we had a drill on june 8. we had fire scenarios.

there is a great opportunity for us. it's an example of what we're doing on the 13th floor, we're doing that. and i will let you know this monday, in particular, we have a new module coming up, where the training is going all the way through september? october. october. so we're going to enhance our skills and i also happy to report that we have units coming in every day. they're going to be reporting as working together, learning together on this training. we also put a deal out to fund by the california apprenticeship program that we have been members for years. we will get this class, much needed for the members and also members of the outlying areas that use these skills all the time.

and huge interest for members, 90 members applied for the class. we're looking for when to do more classes. they go for the class, to bring outside trainers and train our trainers. and we want to train our members to do this so the cause will not be always pending on grants, but our firefighters doing it. so it's great to see all the interest our members have in training. the certification we have with the state has been renewed. we've been working with program. this program is kind of light version of nert. i was one of the first instructors to release this a few years back. it's not five sessions, it's only three sessions. it's basic skills. this is all taught in spanish. they go there and it's a fantastic way of doing it because we understand the needs for the community.

they come with their children and share meals. and they're learning basic skills. shut down the gas, electricity. how it works and things like that so they can help themselves out. i'm really proud of the program. they talk about nert and listos. i'm happy to see that growing in the city as well. just came back from the homeless security conference in phoenix. happy to say that one of our captains actually won best in show, which means his presentation on the camp fire response was one of the best received in the conference. really happy for him. chief also attended a training event that they had specifically for sports events. and it was focused on incidents

that can happen at a sports event and how to manage that from a command system perspective. things we also went to last week. was the public safety power tabletop. this is a program that they've started doing. even though we're in a categorized low-risk area for wildfires, the way the transmission lines are placed might put us in a situation where we don't have wildfires here, but our lines will be shut down for a few days. this is for all to come together to plan how we're going to do this. it was very good to have. with a bunch of agencies working together to come up with solutions, problems and how to solve the problems. it was really good. in talking to the m.l.r., we

have a big focus and chief has put a big focus on the training. and we're planning for drills this fall. we have drill working with them. how is dispatch going to affect our operations in major event and how to work together? so we're going to work together and have drills coming up september through november. we also attended -- staff attended the tall building safety strategy summit. this is a program that the mayor's office started. of course, the chief attended the council where all the topics were discussed. the commissioners, i am happy to say we have an update on the drone program. last meeting, you weren't here, but i told the commissioner that we're waiting fema for response. we got the response not too long after that meeting. that was good. one of the things i wanted to add was language that said we have a three-year vision on our

policy. no problem with that. they asked us to add civil rights and liberties language to the policy. which has been done. they wanted to make sure we had a complaint procedure. we do have that so there is no problem with that. suggestions. we're going to incorporate suggestions. and annual summary of the festivities, too. what we're doing next is putting auto the things together. send them for final approval and we can move forward for this and go to bid for the drone. we're moving forward and getting close. update on the community outreach events and recruitment. recruitment on the ems week, we're doing some recruitment at the high school. and we're doing outreach into the agencies, not just private, but public, and hands-on c.p.r. as you know, you can see, they're not here, because

they're actually in the ferrara factory in louisiana. they're doing three things. the pre-construction. they're doing the inspection for the five new trucks we're getting soon. and they're doing hydraulic modelling that will hopefully get into the budget and we get approved for that. instead of three trips, cost savings, we do one. we get good information from that. engines. 4 of the 6 are in service. two more will be done by the end of the month. actually, in a week or so, it will be back in service. and went out to the field, explaining the process of how the engine and the apparatus is rotating to the station. detailed criteria, selection process that the chief of support services uses to determine which goes where and why. there are different things that engine size have to go to some

neighborhoods. depends on the weight of the ladders. those are the things we use. but transparency to the members to know where they go and why we're doing the moves we're doing. it was well received. and happy to say that all 50 are back in service and ready to go. any questions you may have i'm here for you. >> i'm going to ask for public comment before the commissioners comment. after the question, any members of the public have public comment? public comment is closed. >> thank you, mr. president. chief, thank you for your report. very well done. and very brief. so i had a couple of questions. on the nert, what is the listos

>> in spanish, it means ready. >> is it a state program? >> i believe it's a state program. we incorporate here. we started training on that three years ago, four years ago. they come in and become trainers. it's all given in spanish, the instructions and some of the basic we do for nert is helpful to the community. >> i think it's a great program. several years ago we had a lot of complaints about fires in the mission and there was a lot of concern that people were thinking that these fires were set and deliberate. to get people out of the housing and what not. that was not the case. these were all accidents that happened because of overloading for sockets or kitchen fires or

whatever. so this is a great program. i'm glad we're reaching out to that community in spanish so that we can get that message of fire safety out to just that many more people. i congratulate you on that program. >> thank you. >> the tall building safety program you talked about, obviously, as a former employee of the building owners association, i'm familiar with the tall buildings in san francisco. i'm very interested in the program and wondering if that could be the subject of a presentation to a future commission meeting? >> the program is not run by the fire department. we're just invited to the summit. there have been already two of the summits going on, different focus each time with them. the main focus of this summit has been there has been findings with some of the buildings built before certain date, because the way they were built, they might be subject to more damage than they thought before.

>> earthquake? >> yes. so based on that, it's mostly city administrator office. they're running this and trying -- we're just listening to see what impact it will have on us and operations. so we showed up. but it was interesting to see how the effects work. >> this is something happened through the mayor's office and the building department. >> correct. and the building department has a huge component. they might need more inspectors. the focus was on them. >> part of the committee, but we're not leading it? >> no. right. >> thank you. i wanted to thank the chief for this deconpolicy. i think it's so great to see. it shows you care about the

members. i'm curious how it's going to be enforced. and if it's a mandatory policy, it doesn't have a general order assigned to it. >> there is. >> oh, i didn't see it. it will be enforced as a general record such as there are penalties. we have stubborn traditions here in the department, but i think this is a really good policy. i'm not going to monday-morning quarterback it, because i think it a really good start to doing it. we have a lot to learn from implementing it, but how do we enforce it? >> so there is going to be a learning curve with this of course. i have a deputy chief of operations who is -- was with me on my cancer prevention foundation board, so he's extremely invested in this as well. and we will make it happen. we will make it happen. >> as far as like in the field,

is there somebody on each engine station that is monitoring, making sure this is happening? how does it get enforced? >> it would be up to the incident commander. soets going to be a -- so it's going to be chief level to make sure it happens. >> so if i may, chief, for the last few days, when the policy came out and all the incident commanders and the division chiefs have been passing that information down to the companies so the captains will have to enforce this to the members. it will have to be a coordinated effort. so maybe rotating when to take showers and clean up. but it's definitely the incident commander, the assistant chief are there to enforce it and then back to the office to make the company officers. quick credit to the driving force of this policy. she wrote it, she got the feedback.

i want to make sure she gets credit because she was a strong force to make this happen. captain julie mao. >> thank you to her and your group for putting this together. after every fire, there is a book in every station. there is a book in every station that records the activities in the station? >> a journal. >> is there a mechanism whereby we can keep a record that the decontamination policy had been adhered to? how do we track if this policy is followed, as opposed to just expecting that it is. >> with we can look into -- we can look into that. >> i will tell you that years ago when i was in traning, we started to doing the culture change of the washing turnouts.

if you're an experienced firefighter, it took time to change. it will take time to change, but it will change. [please stand by]

>> i want to prove him wrong.

i want to prove chief francisco wrong that we can get this done in less than three days. i have been only on the commission two and a half years, so we are cutting it close. >> we will do our best. >> thanks, chief. >> thank you. very for port. good job. you have a busy group. all throughout this report, we have been working really hard and have been extremely busy to. i was curious on the report returned to you by marianne. it shows retirees in the last month. is july 1st going to be a time where that is a cutoff point, or is this going to be it for this season? or are you anticipating july --

for some reason, i think people are retiring on the thirst of july. >> that is correct. there will be people retiring. we're still not sure of all of the numbers, but there is certainly quite a few more by july 1st. that is typically because it is the end of the fiscal year. that is typically have a lot of people do it. we will be looking at our numbers in terms of promotions for next month. >> that is why i asked. thank you. >> great report. >> thank you very much. >> vice president and -- vice president covington? >> thank you, mr. president. thank you to the chief for your report. it is very good. i also am heartened to see the training going on.

are there any particular things that are left out? >> from what i recall, some of the things of heavy lifting, we don't do that. some of the ics training we do -- we do not touch that, but all of the electrical things, weeks to grit your training we do. there are basin components in any household can use right away but some of the most advanced, we do basic first aid, but not higher like we do. it is a light version, but we are focusing some of the basic things that the family can bring back and use right away in case they need us. >> so if you wanted to release those, you can do that. >> absolutely. >> are being -- people are being encouraged to do so? >> yes. most of them are those instructors as well.