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thank you, president yee. and as he said, this was a collaborative effort, and i just want to recognize, there's so many people here today. i can't start naming names because you guys will get mad at me if i forget somebody. but i do want to say to the nonprofit housing developers here that work in the community, whether it's tndc, mission housing and others, who continue to provide this much-needed affordable housing, ccdc and others, thank you so much for being here today for your advocacy and affordable housing in san francisco. thank you to the yimbys in san francisco. it means a lot. now i want to bring up one of the cochairs of the committee to help bring forth this amazing $600 million affordable housing bond.
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tamika moss spear headed the effort. i remember a couple years back when we discovered we had empty public housing units. we worked with then-mayor ed lee to come up with $200 million to rehabilitate those units. and because of those services, we were able to place 179 formerly homeless families in public housing, and so tamika moss, come on up [applause] >> thank you so much, mayor breed. good morning! we are here on this momentous occasion to acknowledge the leadership of our mayor and our president of this board of supervisors, mayor breed and president yee. i have had the incredible opportunity of leading one of the working groups with my
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cochairs, malcolm young, annie chung, and myrna melgar to make sure how the community has a voice in this bond? how do we make sure that every single san franciscan has access to permanent, supportive, affordable housing in their communities? and we have been able to come together and bring folks together around this bond, and i am so honored to be a part of it. this bond, as the mayor said, as the president said, is something for everyone. we have to make sure that the residents of public housing are supported. we need to make sure that the seniors in our community have a place to age with respect. we have a responsibility to make sure that we take care of our first responders and our teachers. the mayor and the board of supervisors didn't just talk about an affordable housing crisis, they did something about it, and i am so excited to stand with them and support this and get this over the finish line in november. guess what, folks?
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we have a lot more work to do. this is our first attempt to making sure we have affordable housing in san francisco. we have a lot of work to do. let's get to work. thank you so much. [applause] >> the hon. london breed: thank you, tamika. now many of you know this, when we talk about affordable housing, often times when we found in the past in san francisco, you basically make too much for affordable housing but not enough for market rate in san francisco. a couple years -- well, not even a couple years. maybe two years, we worked with a number of folks to change the affordability rates to level the playing field because i wanted to make sure that teachers and people of our labor community were able to have access to the affordable housing that we build in san francis francisco, to the down payment assistance loans and other
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things, because that's what makes san francisco a great place is when we have true diversity from various economic levels. so what i'm really excited about in this bond is the amount of support it will provide for affordable housing for middle-income residents. we have here someone who is a beneficiary of the teacher next door program who provides down payment assistance to teachers for the purpose of purchasing housing in san francisco. with us is a seven-year employee of the san francisco unified school district, and she has been working as an educator in our schools with our kids. and now because of this program, she's going to be within a short walking distance of the school that she works at. and so ladies and gentlemen, please welcome cheryl lu. [applause] >> hello, everyone. thank you for letting me share my story with you today?
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as mayor breed mentioned, i am an educator, i am a teacher, and i have actually been teaching for 13 years now. eight years of it -- seven, eight years of it was in san francisco, out at star king elementary school, which is out in potrero hill. it's always been my dream to live in the city that i serve and to eventually buy a home. and because of the down payment assistance loan program and the mayor's office of housing and community and development, i am actually living the impossible san francisco dream right now. as of last week, i closed on a property in san francisco, yeah. [applause] >> pretty exciting, and it all worked out. and as with any buying process, you face a couple of
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challenges. along the way, we made it happen, and -- there was low inventories when we were looking we were getting out bit. but thank you to the mayor's office of housing and community development and assistance -- down payment assistance loan program, i was able to -- i was able to buy a place, and i'm a teacher, so it's pretty amazing. so i really do thank the support for what the we can do on the low-income, middle-inco middle-income, teachers, first responders, and the labor industry. if i can do it, and i can live the impossible san francisco dream, many of you can, also.
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thank you. [applaus [applause] >> the hon. london breed: thank you, cheryl. and our final speaker is someone who grew up in the bayview-hunters point community. she started as a carpenter and is now working as a plumber. she's in fact working at 1950 mission street on that project, and this is why this program was created to make sure that local residents of our city have access to the trades so they could provide the opportunity to help to build this city and also get good wages in the process. but more importantly, she has a daughter entering college this fall. we are so proud of the work that she's doing to help build the city. and so ladies and gentlemen, please welcome stacey provost. [applause] >> thank you, mayor london breed, for having me. i am a proud member of the pipe
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fitters and plumbers union local 38. [applause] >> i was born and raised in hunters point, and i began making my living as a cosmetologist. i owned my own business. i opened a hair salon, which i had to close due to rising rent. being a single mother with a daughter going to college, i needed to find a more stable career. at that point, i had found the city build program. throughout city build, i learned the skills required to be a -- to have a successful construction career. i have benefited from affordable housing which is how i was able to provide and support my daughter during the city build process. after i graduated, i became a carpenter, working for carpenter's union local 22.
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before having the opportunity and the blessing of joining local 38, which is the plumbers and pipefitters union of san francisco. living here in san francisco in the 94124 has given me the benefit and a stable career to be in and pay rent in san francisco. that's why we need more affordable housing. we need more affordable housing for all of the reasons stated above. we also need this bond to create union jobs for all unions to build more affordable housing. right now, i'm working for o'brien mechanical in the mission street housing at 1950 mission where we are building 157 100% affordable housing units.
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[applause] >> so what i'm really trying to say is we need to build this housing so we can support more people like me, more stacey provosts. >> the hon. london breed: thank you, stacey, and thiank you to all the members who came out today. and thank you to all the supervisors who came out today. i know you've got to run back to get back to business. i know we are all looking for a unanimous vote at the board. right, supervisor mandelman? you heard it from supervisor mandelman and president yee first. we're going to get a unanimous vote and we're going to get it on the ballot. we're going to knock on doors and talk to people so they know how important this is for the future of san francisco. we know we have a number of challenges, and the longer we wait to get this housing built,
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the more delay it is for so many people we know are struggling in san francisco. yes, sadly, people who are homeless but also people who are living paycheck to paycheck, people who are losing their housing. this is more than just building affordable housing, this is also about preserving our existing affordable housing for the people who are here who are struggling to survive. thank you all so much, and let's get this ballot measure passed! [applause] . >> i love that i was in four plus years a a rent control tenant, and it might be normal because the tenant will -- for
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the longest, i was applying for b.m.r. rental, but i would be in the lottery and never be like 307 or 310. i pretty much had kind of given up on that, and had to leave san francisco. i found out about the san francisco mayor's office of housing about two or three years ago, and i originally did home counseling with someone, but then, my certificate expired, and one of my friends jamie, she was actually interested in purchasing a unit. i told her about the housing program, the mayor's office, and i told her hey, you've got to do the six hour counseling and the 12 hour training. she said no, i want you to go with me. and then, the very next day that i went to the session, i notice this unit at 616
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harrison became available, b.m.i. i was like wow, this could potentially work. housing purchases through the b.m.r. program with the sf mayor's office of housing, they are all lotteries, and for this one, i did win the lottery. there were three people that applied, and they pulled my number first. i won, despite the luck i'd had with the program in the last couple years. things are finally breaking my way. when i first saw the unit, even though i knew it was less than ideal conditions, and it was very junky, i could see what this place could be. it's slowly beginning to feel like home. i can definitely -- you know, once i got it painted and slowly getting my custom furniture to fit this unit because it's a specialized unit, and all the units are microinterms of being very small. this unit in terms of adaptive,
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in terms of having a murphy bed, using the walls and ceiling, getting as much space as i can. it's slowly becoming home for me. it is great that san francisco has this program to address, let's say, the housing crisis that exists here in the bay area. it will slowly become home, and i am appreciative that it is a bright spot in an otherwise as latinos we are unified in some ways and incredibly diverse in others and this exhibit really is an exploration of nuance in how we present those ideas.
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♪ our debts are not for sale. >> a piece about sanctuary and how his whole family served in the army and it's a long family tradition and these people that look at us as foreigners, we have been here and we are part of america, you know, and we had to reinforce that. i have been cure rating here for about 18 year. we started with a table top, candle, flower es, and a picture and people reacted to that like it was the monna lisa.
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>> the most important tradition as it relates to the show is idea of making offering. in traditional mexican alters, you see food, candy, drinks, cigarettes, the things that the person that the offerings where being made to can take with them into the next word, the next life. >> keeps u.s us connects to the people who have passed and because family is so important to us, that community dynamic makes it stick and makes it visible and it humanizes it and makes it present again. ♪ >> when i first started doing it back in '71, i wanted to do something with ritual, ceremony and history and you know i talked to my partner ross about the research and we opened and
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it hit a cord and people loved it. >> i think the line between engaging everyone with our culture and appropriating it. i think it goes back to asking people to bring their visions of what it means to honor the dead, and so for us it's not asking us to make mexican altars if they are not mexican, it's really to share and expand our vision of what it means to honor the dead. >> people are very respectful. i can show you this year alone of people who call tol ask is it okay if we come, we are hawaii or asian or we are this. what should we wear? what do you recommend that we do? >> they say oh, you know, we want a four day of the dead and
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it's all hybrid in this country. what has happened are paper cuts, it's so hybrid. it has spread to mexico from the bay area. we have influence on a lot of people, and i'm proud of it. >> a lot of tim times they don't represent we represent a lot of cultures with a lot of different perspectives and beliefs. >> i can see the city changes and it's scary. >> when we first started a lot of people freaked out thinking we were a cult and things like that, but we went out of our way to also make it educational through outreach and that is why we started doing the prosession in 1979. >> as someone who grew up
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attending the yearly processions and who has seen them change incrementally every year into kind of what they are now, i feel in many ways that the cat is out of the bag and there is no putting the genie back into the bottle in how the wider public accesses the day of the dead. >> i have been through three different generations of children who were brought to the procession when they were very young that are now bringing their children or grandchildren. >> in the '80s, the processions were just kind of electric. families with their homemade visuals walking down the street in san francisco. service so much more intimate and personal and so much more rooted in kind of a family practice of a very strong cultural practice.
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it kind of is what it is now and it has gone off in many different directions but i will always love the early days in the '80s where it was so intimate and son sofa millial. >> our goal is to rescue a part of the culture that was a part that we could invite others to join in there there by where we invite the person to come help us rescue rescue it also. that's what makes it unique. >> you have to know how to approach this changing situation, it's exhausting and i have seen how it has affected everybody. >> what's happening in mission and the relationship with the police, well it's relevant and
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it's relevant that people think about it that day of the dead is not just sugar skulls and paper flowers and candles, but it's become a nondenominational tradition that people celebrate. >> our culture is about color and family and if that is not present in your life, there is just no meaning to it you know? >> we have artists as black and brown people that are in direct danger of the direct policies of the trump a administration and i think how each of the artists has responsibilitie responded ss interesting. the common [♪] common
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>> i am the supervisor of district one. i am sandra lee fewer. [♪] >> i moved to the richmond district in 1950 mine. i was two years old. i moved from chinatown and we were one of the first asian families to move out here. [♪] >> when my mother decided to buy that house, nobody knew where it was. it seems so far away. for a long time, we were the only chinese family there but we started to see the areas of growth to serve a larger chinese population. the stress was storage of the birthplace of that. my father would have to go to
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chinatown for dim sum and i remember one day he came home and said, there is one here now. it just started to grow very organically. it is the same thing with the russian population, which is another very large ethnic group in the richmond district. as russia started to move in, we saw more russian stores. so parts of the richmond is very concentrated with the russian community and immigrant russian community, and also a chinese immigrant community. [♪] >> i think as living here in the richmond, we really appreciate the fact that we are surrounded three natural barriers. they are beautiful barriers. the presidio which gives us so many trails to walk through, ocean beach, for families to just go to the beach and be in the pacific ocean.
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we also also have a national park service. we boarded the golden gate national recreation area so there is a lot of activity to do in the summer time you see people with bonfires. but really families enjoying the beach and the pacific ocean during the rest of the time of year. [♪] >> and golden gate park where we have so many of our treasures here. we have the tea garden, the museum and the academy of sciences. not to mention the wonderful playgrounds that we have here in richmond. this is why i say the richmond is a great place for families. the theatre is a treasure in our neighborhood. it has been around for a very long time. is one of our two neighborhood theatres that we have here. i moved here when i was 1959 when i was two years old. we would always go here. i love these neighborhood theatres. it is one of the places that has
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not only a landmark in the richmond district, but also in san francisco. small theatres showing one or two films. a unique -- they are unique also to the neighborhood and san francisco. >> where we are today is the heart of the richmond district. with what is unique is that it is also small businesses. there is a different retail here it is mom and pop opening up businesses. and providing for the neighborhood. this is what we love about the streets. the cora door starts on clement street and goes all the way down to the end of clement where you will see small businesses even towards 32nd. at the core of it is right here between here and 20 -- tenth avenue. when we see this variety of stores offered here, it is very unique then of the -- any other part of san francisco.
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there is traditional irish music which you don't get hardly anywhere in san francisco. some places have this long legacy of serving ice cream and being a hangout for families to have a sunday afternoon ice cream. and then also, we see grocery stores. and also these restaurants that are just new here, but also thriving. [♪] >> we are seeing restaurants being switched over by hand, new owners, but what we are seeing is a vibrancy of clement street still being recaptured within new businesses that are coming in. that is a really great thing to see. i don't know when i started to shop here, but it was probably a very, very long time ago. i like to cook a lot but i like to cook chinese food. the market is the place i like to come to once a year. once i like about the market as it is very affordable.
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it has fresh produce and fresh meat. also, seafood. but they also offer a large selection of condiments and sauces and noodles. a variety of rice that they have is tremendous. i don't thank you can find a variety like that anywhere else. >> hi. i am kevin wong. i am the manager. in 1989 we move from chinatown to richmond district. we have opened for a bit, over 29 years. we carry products from thailand, japan, indonesia, vietnam, singapore and india. we try to keep everything fresh daily. so a customer can get the best out a bit. >> normally during crab season in november, this is the first place i hit. because they have really just really fresh crab. this is something my family really likes for me to make.
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also, from my traditional chinese food, i love to make a kale soup. they cut it to the size they really want. i am probably here once a week. i'm very familiar with the aisles and they know everyone who is a cashier -- cashier here i know when people come into a market such as this, it looks like an asian supermarkets, which it is and sometimes it can be intimidating. we don't speak the language and many of the labels are in chinese, you may not know what to buy or if it is the proper ingredients for the recipe are trying to make. i do see a lot of people here with a recipe card or sometimes with a magazine and they are looking for specific items. the staff here is very helpful. i speak very little chinese here myself. thinks that i'm not sure about, i asked the clerk his and i say is this what i need? is this what i should be making? and they actually really helped me. they will bring me to the aisle and say this is battery.
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they are very knowledgeable. very friendly. i think they are here to serve not only the asian community but to serve all communities in the richmond district and in san francisco. [♪] >> what is wonderful about living here is that even though our july is a very foggy and overcast, best neighborhood, the sleepy part outside on the west side is so rich with history, but also with all the amenities that are offered. [♪]
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and i'm the chair of this committee. i'm joined by supervisor aaron peskin, brown is running late and she'll be with us in a few minutes. thank you to this committee's clerk, john carole and i'd like to thank kerwin cooley at sf gov tv for staffing this meeting. >> yes, please ensure you silence your cellphones and speakers cards are part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. items will appear on the july 30th, 2019 board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> thank you mr. clerk. for item number one, since supervisor brown is a co sponsor, i'm going to hold off on that. we'll call the items out of order. mr. clerk, can you please call item number 2. >> clerk: agenda item number 2 is a resolution regarding non
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renew of a historical property contract the owner of 960 market. under chapter 71 of the administrative code notifying the assess recordings office and authorization the notice of the non renewal and record a notice of non renewal. >> as you may be aware there's a state law called the mills act, which we administer through charter 71, i think it is, of our administrative code. it is an incentive for property owners to invest in their historic properties and gives them property tax abatement for a rolling period of 10 years. during my second tour of duty on the board of supervisors, we granted one such contract to the old chronical building, it had since moved out.
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today, it is a beautiful restored historic building with the ritz carleton residentses up above at the corner of market and kearney. they have received substantial tax benefits. the board of supervisors retains the ability to stop that tax relief at any time with a 10-year notice. and insofar as they have now recouped their investment in that historical resource, i thought it correct and right that we terminate the mills act and recoup those dollars to the general fund. the historic preservation agreed with that and i believe ms. fergusson is here on behalf of the planning department and the historic preservation commission and i will turn it over to her.
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>> thank you, supervisor. good morning, my name is sham on first thinfergusson. i have a resolution for non renewal of the mills act contract for 690 market street. the mills act contract for 690 market street was approved by the planning commission on marc. the board of supervisors approved it on november 18th, 2008 and it was recorded on the anniversary date of the contract in 2009. the nine-storey office tower originally constructed in 1889 to 90 and the a joining 16-storey tower constructed in 1905 or subject the to the mills act contract. the eight-storey completed in 2007 is not subject to the mills act contract. >> even though the property owner wanted it would be but we said no. >> the rehabilitation workout lined in the mills act contract has been completed and the
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maintenance workout lined in the contract is on going. as supervisor mentioned, the mills act legislation offers local government to qualified historic properties. disagreement provides tax reductions to those properties who can allocate those savings towards maintenance plans to preserve the property. the city currently holds 37 active mills act contracts. so, under administrative codes chapter 71, the members act mils effective on the date it was recorded. it has a term of 10 years and one year is added to the term of the contract on the anniversary date, unless notice of non renewal is given. the mills act contract allows the property owner or the city to not renew the contract. notice of non renewal must be served by either party before the annual renewal date. if notice is not served prior to the renewal date, one year will
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be automatically added to the term of the contract. if either party service notice of non renewal, the mills act will remain in effect for the balance of the period remaining since the last renewal. the planning department does recommend serving the notice of non renewal to the property owner of 690 market street. the mills act contract has provided an incentives for rehabilitation work and non renewal a chiefs a better value between the benefits to the property owner and the cost to the city. this concludes my presentation and i'm happy to answer any questions. >> thank you ms. fergusson. just by a larger mills act context, some of these, particularly on a smaller residential scale, will completely be recouped in the 10-year period. as a matter of policy, we should look at these 37 kilometres and deciding which ones we want to terminate and which should continue and that should be the policy of this body.
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>> are there any members of the public who wish to testify on this item. you have two minutes. >> if you are developing a contract for historical buildings, and it's for the benefit for both the historical building and the community, there shouldn't be no time limit period. there shouldn't be no deadline to renew it. if it's a good contract to begin with, and an understanding to begin with, there should be no deadline and you are causing more confusion. in the end the owner is tied up with other business and the same response to conflicts with the deadline and that deadline is accidentally or inintentionly
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missed, the owner of the historical building loses protection. so there shouldn't be a deadline on the contract to begin with. it's a good program and it's a good program for life. from generation to generation to generation. if there's an earthquake in the building it collapsed. you are making more work for yourself. >> thank you. are there any other members of the public that wish to testify on this item? >> good morning, supervisors, i'm going to speak entirely as a citizen today. i'm here on another item but this caught my attention. peter cohen. i've been involved in neighborhood activism for a while. i think i remember this project and this is the ritz carleton time shares, right?
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or whatever it is? and what was challenging at the time and i don't know if this is why the city is not renewing the mills act. this was pitched as a housing project and even then we had a housing supply need. the argument was this would be helpful to the property owner restoring the building because they were also going to be investing and creating more housing for our city's needs. even though it was market rate housing, everyone knew it would be high-end. there was a sense it was sort of an underlying logic in the city for going those tax dollars. when it was built as time share condos, a ritz carleton club, i don't think anybody was aware of that on the community side. it seemed a little bit kind of opportunityizing what should be a precious tool to incentivize historic preservation but the actual use of our historic
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structures in a way that has a public benefit. i don't know if that's how things played out for our electives but we were caught off guard about what was being proposed and hopefully the use of this mills act is essentially the city foregoing taxes will be actually used in a way that will really see the outcome of the building reuse having its greatest public benefit. thank you. >> thank you. are there any other public comments on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. any additional comments or questions for my colleagues? i'd be happy to send this to the full board with positive recommendation. >> great. done. welcome, supervisor brown. why don't we go back to item number 1. mr. clerk, can you call that item. >> clerk: agenda item number one is ar ordinance amending the
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building code to wave specified fees for 100% affordable housing projects and accessory dwelling units projects for one-year pilot program and affirming the planning department's determination under ceqa. >> thank you. well, first i wanted to thank mayor breed and her staff for her work on this legislation to wave building code fees for 100% affordable housing and also accessory dwelling units. i'm proud to co sponsor this legislation along with supervisor brown. and i appreciate the opportunity for us to have brought this back to the j.a.o. committee for a second hearing to consider some amendments and today i'm introducing throw amendments to this legislation. i want to change the date -- wait a minute.
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i don't know if you guys got this. >> here is the deadline for you. so, i have three amendments that i'm introducing. first i would like to amend to change the retro activity date from february 26th, 2019, to june 1st, 2019. so that is a total length of the pilot program remains at about 15 months as originally contemplated and expected by d.b.i. secondly, while i support the legislation waving building fees for 100% affordable housing projects, i would like to amend to include reporting requirements to understand who
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is benefiting from the fee waivers. this includes whether the a.d.u. is a single family home or multi-unit building. for the length of the time the applicant opened the property and whether they intend to representative the property. we would like to understand if applicants are individuals or large corporations and who own multiple properties across san francisco. as with any pilot, gathering and assessing data is vital to our decision to continue the program. finally, i would like to amend to limit the eligible applicants of the fee waivers to single-family homes, multi unit buildings up to four units and not profit organizations. san francisco gives monetary incentives for a housing development, we need to ensure our dollars are truly meeting our housing needs.
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since the launch of the a.d.u. program, most the overwhelming majority of permits, a.d.u. permits have been for multi-unit buildings yet there are opportunities in my district and across the city to add density in increasing the housing supply in single-family homes or smaller apartment buildings. this waiver -- this fee waiver will incentivize a.d.u. production where it's been under developed. the fee waiver also insin ta vice victims who want to build a a.d.u. and are experiencing prohibitive barriers to entry. we should support everyday members in our community to stay in their homes, provide housing for their family members and create rental units for members of our community. additional financial incentives would help immensely. what we do not want to do is to subsidize private developers for real estate investors in large
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apartment buildings with an incentives, they do not need and can absolutely afford to pay themselves. the amendment is not perfect, my intention is to support homeowners and small property owners to create more housing and i look forward to seeing an increase in a.d.u.s and the results of the pilot so colleagues, i request that you accept my amendment. supervisor brown. >> i really appreciate us having that conversation yesterday about raising the unit count. i know when you were looking at it, you were looking at if for single-family homes where the owner doesn't live there. and so, we talked about raising it to four. i have to say too, when i was out and about last night, i was looking at a lot of the buildings in my district and i
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was in another district too where a lot of the opportunities for a.d.u.s could be 10 and under. and i know that's where we look at our inclusionary and it's a standard. i just thought, could we have this discussion about numbers and what that might mean today before we vote on this amendment? so, i am just saying, can we think about raising it to 1 10? 10 units and under. >> we can have additional discussion now about the number of units in a building that would be eligible for the fee waiver. it's four units or in buildings of four units or less and --
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12a.d.u.s to five different buildings. the one unit highlighted in the new a.d.u. the rent is $5,750 a month so it's my strong feeling that for, again, for the real estate investors who have been adding a.d.u. to large apartment buildings, they don't -- those are not the type of folks that really need a few thousand dollars fee waiver incentive to add a.d.u.s, i prefer to target the fee favor and really a public subsidy to expand a.d.u.s to property owners that really need that and it would help move the needle further on bringing more a.d.u.s on to the market? >> well, i appreciate and i
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respect what you are saying. i think, a., i talked to planning and district 5 has the most a.d.u.s and i asked them what's the average price. the average price in district 5 is about $2500 for a one bedroom for the a.d.u.s and a lot of them are in the larger apartment buildings, you are correction, absolutely. when you go out and look for an apartment in district 5, whether it's an old victorian apartment, the a.d.u. at 2500 is between 1200 and $1500 less. so, they are affordable. much more affordable and i read that article too and i think that was bernal heights, right. where someone made a luxury a.d.u. two-bedroom a.d.u. and that's not the norm. that was something that was
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unusual. almost all the a.d.u.s in my district, which has the most, and so i'm looking at the a.d.u. numbers are one bedroom and studio apartments. and they're not the luxury. people aren't spending high-end finishing on them and things like that. so they're affordable apartments. also, since seniors are our fastest growing population, these a.d.u.s without stairs, are really important to have. i've been out and about in my district quite a lot lately and i've been talking to a lot of the seniors that live in apartments that are three-storeys up or two-storeys up and they're flats and apartment building requests noso elevators and they would be happy to live in an a.d.u. on a ground floor. i just feel like we're in a situation right now in the city that we're really struggling to
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get housing and hopefully affordable housing. the a.d.u.s too, are also places where young couples or singles can go and it's their first apartment or apartment that you can move into that is affordable. i just feel like, you know, at least bringing the number up a little bit to 10, so it would be 10 and under, it's something that i think is really important to try to give us more affordable housing. we're always going to have the people that go in and take advantage of a situation and build that luxury a. d.u. in a very popular neighborhood and i think they were asking $5500 or something like that for it. i really also feel and i feel very strongly about this and i really appreciate that we find out, who is actually building and had that reporting.
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who is building these a.d.u.s? i don't know. we all have speculations but we don't know. this reporting request, chair mar, is so important and i really want to thank you for that. >> thank you. supervisor peskin. >> so there's nothing in the packet that tells us how much the fees are being waved. maybe we can hear from the b.l.a. and from d.b.u. as to how much these fees are. first of all, let me just say i completely concur on the 100% affordable housing. i do share the sentiment did not wave fees that pay for our inspectors and and i don't think it's anecdotal for and are the
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folks who are taking advantage of it's great and i support that but i don't know -- what this means is we're going to basically use other dollars to subsidize the work of building inspectors and that is what it means. i don't know that we have to be basically subsidizing veratos when that thing is going to sash flow and we can give the mom and pop an incentive. the question is where is that point and let's do that based on data and anecdotally we know most a.d.,s are going into buildings that are larger than four units and maybe we can hear as to how much the fees generally are and what the
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breakdown is as to where they're being built. >> thank you. is there someone here from d.b.i. that could help? provide and the permit fees for a.d.u.s. >> good morning, supervisors, bill strong with legislative and public affairs at d.b.i. we've had our i.d. group take a look at fees looking actually at the original proposed date from february 26th and they came up with 22 affordable housing projects and that 100% category actually most of those came in in april and may. we haven't seen those applications in june or july yet. out of those 22, i think that the total number of fees that were estimated is about
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$675,000. and those are a little hard to say how accurate they are because i think you may know that currently, d.b.i. doesn't collect any fees on those 100% affordables until the c.f.c. is issued. so, projects could change in the fee total element could change. that is probably a ballpark and if you have reached out, the 22 projects at that amount i think it comes to roughly 30 or $40,000 on a rough average. of course, you can't really average it because some buildings are much bigger and so fourth. >> if i can insert myself at that spot. i have no quarrel with that at all. these are projects that are funded by the city. it's basically -- you're putting $675,000 into the project
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that -- i mean, it's six and one half-dozen and the other. i'm fine with that. >> i think we all are. >> absolutely. >> and on the a.d.u.s, again, looking at the data we have right now, there were 99a.d.u. projects from that february 26tg forward and those fees amounts to $280,000. sour looking at a rough average of 3,000, $3500 and with some margin of error there. the department is happy to work with the supervisor and come up with a reporting additional requirements that are necessary and obviously the fee numbers will get more accurate as we actually have projects that we can specify. >> through the chair to mr. strong, how is that 180 projects in this time period?
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do you have a breakdown of how many of them were in buildings over four, over 10. >> i do not have that in my finger tips but i can certainly get that for you. >> i think planning does. i think planning does have that. >> anything else? >> >> well, would you have that figure or some the a.d.u.s and applicants or permits that were in and to larger and for not just from february. there's been figures shared about that. >> >> thank you so much. >> >> we can go to public comment on this item. >> so, members of the public,
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income bracket people. you don't have to charge no fees. get rid of the developer that is charging and interested in private only. you won't have this problem. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> peter cohen. support the legislation seems like really kind of low hanging fruit and we've been trying to trim margin inover the last couple of years as construction costs were driven by materials cost have really skyrocketed. anything we can do is helpful and there's a i
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