make sure that our employees have an opportunity to give back to the city that gives us all so much. so thank you all for the space, and i don't know if you have anything else to add. >> keep volunteering. [applause] >> all right. commissioners, we conclude with the video of the month -- before he you do, ryan, let me back to soccer. you see the women's national team push for equity, but one of the real challenges in the sport of football or the sport of soccer in the u.s. that we face is the u.s. soccer federation and all of us have to do a better job of exposing this game to communities of color, particularly african americans, making it more affordable, making it more

accessible and more equitiable. if you look just -- i'm a soccer fan, so i'm going to go off a little bit. if you look at france's success and their success on the field, it is focused on communities of color, and it's something that the u.s. does not do well. we are engaged in an effort to introduce the sport to communities that have not historically or traditionally had access to it, so your recreation and parks department has created its own soccer club, bayview united, and i'll turn on the video.

[video] >> and that concludes the general manager's report. >> thank you very much. >> clerk: is there anyone who would like to make public comment on the general manager's report? okay. seeing none, public comment is closed, and we are now on general public comment. this is up to 15 minutes. if the 15 minutes is up, this item will be continued to item 12. at this time, members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission that do not appear on the agenda. with respect to agenda item, you will have the opportunity

to address the commission when the item is reached in the meeting. so i'm going to call up the first five cards, and then, we'll have an opportunity to continue. susan, micah, bob, maureen, and denise. >> hi. i'm susan, and i have a tale of three gardens. in 2015, rec and parks installed beautiful plants in the north park library and the dimaggio playground. they are beautiful, but the only species that they attract

is the invasive norway rat, and the hawk that may eat the rats. in another park, rec and park installed a variety of native plants, that is attracting native wildlife. we have multiple species of birds, and because rec and park put nonnative -- native parks, i have multiple -- native plants in my park, we attract birds and bees and we have

biodiversity. i want to encourage you to continue planting native plants. in fact, please plant exclusively native plants so we can meet california's and san francisco's biodiversity initiative as well as improve san francisco's resilience to climate change. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> clerk: next speaker, please. if i called your name, come on up. >> my name is micah kemp. i'm 16 years old and a rising junior in high school. i've been playing squash for six years and i'm a recently certified squash coach. squash has been dubbed the world's healthiest sport. it's up and coming on the west coast, and i'm working with a

nonprofit organization called squash rights which is an after-school program based in oakland that benefits underserved bay area youth.

i'd love to meet with any commissioner interested in this project. let's make the city better together. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> clerk: next speaker, please. >> i want to thank you very much. my son went to college back east and learned how to play squash there and loved it, so i do support that wholeheartedly. i wrote my remarks. commissioners, i want to thank you for the opportunity to speak again. thank you for your service to our city. last month, you must have felt assaulted by the citizens of potrero hill and dogpatch, but i want amaze -- i was amazed by the amount of support. [please stand by]

. >> -- and they are both in the planning pipeline, 20-story towers. during the last -- in the business section during the last month in the san francisco chronicle, which is setting on my kitchen table, chase added

$34 million to the project. it will a jewel in our skyline. so we want no phases. we want the construction to be done without phases. half this generation's children will be affected if it's taken many years -- excuse me. thank you very much. 2020 bond. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> clerk: okay. bob or denise? >> good morning, commissioners. today, i urge you to update rec and park policies and practices to manage all parks' trees incorporating climate change and biodiversity which are the council's top two priorities. i have a dense stand of

combustible trees in glen canyon park. the other taken in 2013 when the trees were fairly green. the other, a few weeks ago, showing more brown. we want healthy parks, not to follow the unfortunate example of ucsf reserve on mount sutro where a significant portion of standing trees were found to be dead or unhealthy. neighbors from diamond heights, glen park, and mt. davidson have communicated our fears of wildfire to rec and park. i urge you to promote cal fire and u.c. guidelines. perhaps you've seen combustible trees within the defensible

space of homes and overhanging utility lines along the bosworth entrance to glen canyon. planting local native plants. plants in the rec and park golden gate park nursery are overwhelmingly not native to san francisco. removing dead, dieing and unhealthy trees from our parks would provide opportunities to plant local native plants in support of the city's biodiversity resolution. thank you. >> thank you. >> clerk: next speaker, please. >> hello and thank you for that great list of achievements that rec and park is achieving. i'm here to talk about another

issue i know you'll knock out of the park. i want you to try to set a measurable goal of restoring biodiversity in city parks. a recent study in the jec ecological journal -- mclaren and golden gate park represent ample opportunities to help tackle the biodiversity crisis that you're hearing about so much. the study is titled nonnative plants reduce richness and host

lepidoptris plants. nonnative plants supported significantly fewer caterpillars of significantly fewer specialists of general species, even when nonnative were close relatives of the native host species. i realize these parks were alter altered before your time here, but now you have the opportunity to fix the damage a long time. new york city's local laws of 10 and 11 of 2013, laws, not a resolution. they actually have teeth to them, "represent an evolving approach to protect our native plants by focusing on biodiversity rather than individual plant species and reflects an increased understanding of plant

conservation. seen through this lens, the protection of native plants is linked with the protection of sustainability of ecosystems." it's time for san francisco rec and parks to get real about the effects such unnecessary plantings are having on our local caterpillars, moths, butterflies, bees, and birds. please set a goal, a measurable goal for future plantings of, i don't know, 80% of native species or more and start conducting an inventory of biodiversity in your local parks so you can have something to measure against. >> thank you. >> clerk: so i have two more cards and then we'll be done with this portion of public comment. i have brioni and sean, if you could come forward, please.

>> hi. my name is brioni doyle, and i'm here talking in support of justin park. i really want to emphasize that we are getting a huge influx of new residences in the neighborhood, and we really feel that the park needs some love. a lot of it has not been updat updated as marie spoke to in half a century. we worked with the community and had a number of community meetings to represent what they want for the park, and we want to get on the bond to help

support that money to do that project, and we ideally want to do that project in one phase so that it can be completed in time to support the huge number of new residents that we're going to have in potrero hill. thank you. >> thank you. >> clerk: sean? >> hi. good morning. my name is sean ingles. my family goes back about four generations, and i've been lucky to live in specific neighborhoods. when i came to potrero hill and purchased my first home, i was shocked at the lack of parks

and open space area. as we all know, potrero hill has traditionally been a neighborhood that was red lined. you couldn't get mortgages in the neighborhood back in the day, and in the 70s, it was just invested in city infrastructure. now we're in this development, excessive overdevelopment in this area that it's housing, etc. -- this is obsolete because it does not include bridge development, but we have massive overdevelopment of housing. and if you go back toward 2008, we were promised at least four acres of new space -- of park space, and we were also promised that existing infrastructure would be improved. i'd like to share with you what we have actually with the parks as you can see in the green, we only have three spaces that actually can have programmed recreation on it.

the red spaces that are supposed to be open space cannot have recreation programmed on it. what i'm here to do is to urge your support for the parks bond to include jackson playground. we've already had some people talk about there's a little bit of improvement on the space, and -- but it's seriously lacking for the number of investments. we are projecting about 5,000 new residents in the next few years that will be descending there, and we have no parks and open space. so please, if the commission can include some funds for jackson playground. we have a plan presented. friends of jackson playground has already paid for that and we're already in the development of acquiring funds -- gift funds that will be gifted to the city to help to do this improvement. right now, we have over $2

million in our bank account as a nonprofit, and we hope to acquire up to $18 million. thank you. >> thank you. >> clerk: okay. we are at time for item 4, so we are now on item 5, the consent calendar. is there any commissioner who wishes to remove an item from the consent calendar? okay. none. is there any public comment on item 5, the consent calendar? seeing none, public comment is closed. we need a motion and a second. >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor? opposed? >> we are now on item 6, the san francisco zoo. >> good morning, commissioners. i have a powerpoint slide show

here. so can i just tell you that it's been sunny at the zoo? summer programming is underway. our summer programming includes zoo camp, and through the first two weeks of summer zoo camp, over 200 k-8 students have participated since june 10. other programming includes our popular nature trail where guests can meet animals and learn from our knowledgeable teams. wildli wildlife theaters are back, educating and entertaining audiences. and life on the farm, where a guest can meet farm animals like pigs, miniature horses, and more. next, we have partnered with disney, a.z.a., and the

discovery network's part of the pride. since disney's lion king was first released in theaters 25 years ago, we have lost half of africa's lions. in conjunction with the open of disney's lion king, the zoo is hosting a special lion king weekend. this weekend, july 20 and 21, there'll be prizes, a special roaring contest, and more. next week, we have march of the penguins on july 27. penguin chicks are learning to

swim, walk, eat whole fish and learning how to interact with their caretakers. the public is invited to walk as they waddle and walk to their permanent home on penguin island. in addition to watching the penguin chicks, guests can participate in activities such as cookie decorating, paper crafts, and more. and now until july 26, guests visiting the zoo can actually name a penguin chick by attending a penguin feeding and donating. next week, we are celebrating 90 fest, and through this weekend only, we are featuring a 200 foot-along 30-foot-high

zipline. next, this is part of it -- actually, here's our zipline and our ad campaign, which is 90 years of summer fun. next, are orangutans. they are brand-new that arrived recently that are still getting acclimated to their new habitat, and here are our two, male and female actually on one of the passageways that would lead to the habitat. in august, we're celebrating the 40th anniversary

bug-i-versary. thank you. >> clerk: is there anyone who would like to make public comment on this item, item 6, the san francisco zoo? okay. seeing none, public comment is closed. this was a discussion issue. we are on west portal playground award of contract. >> good morning, commissioners. i'm the director of capital planning. i wanted to use this opportunity to introduce to you kelly rudnick who's the project planner. although she's new to us, she's not new to the city. she comes from public works. she has managed several projects that have come before this body, including washington square. we're happy to have her, and you'll be seeing a lot of her.

thank you so much. >> good morning, commissioners. sitting in general manager and secretary, thank you for that production. i am today presenting west portal playground renovation contract for jackie ho, who is on vacation today. so we bring to you the west portal playground renovation possible action to award a contract treaty construction in the amount not to exceed $2,095,000. this project supports the strategic plan strategy number one, to inspire public space, and objective 1.2, to strengthen the existing parks and facilities and objective 2, to strengthen play, and 2.2, to strengthen and promote the health, safety, and well-being

of san francisco's youth and seniors. the west portal playground is in the west portal playground and in district 7, at west ulloa road and lennox way. the port westal renovation project is part of two clean and safe neighbor parks bond programs. the communities opportunities fund and the let's play s.f. initiative. the community outreach process was mainly conducted during the community opportunity fund program application between january and march 2014. on november 20, 2014, this commission adopted the resolution authorizing r.p.d. to produce with design development. the proposed -- the scope of work that we're bringing to you today for the project includes the new children's play area, accessibility improvements to the clubhouse rest rooms, replacement of paving and

waterproofing, fencing, seating, accessible parking, an access pass, and a nature nook, featuring drinking fountain, landscape, and irrigation. the plan is handicapped accessible and meets all a.d.a. requirements in design. the project, beginning in fall 2019, is expect today last nine months. the staff requests the commission award a contract to treaty construction for $2,095,000. this is supported by president norman yee, and others, along

with let's play s.f. and the s.f. parks alliance and a donation from the friends of west portal playground. >> thank you. >> clerk: is there any other public comment? seeing none, public comment -- oh, richard, come on up. didn't see you. >> good morning, commissioners, mark. >> good morning. >> i remember this project a while back, so when i get to see something on a slide, it's really interesting. i just want to include if there was any possibility around the slide areas, little dragons that they could play on. why i'm bringing that up is i didn't talk about it before, but in chinese, the culture, you know, that tunnel that you've got right out there, twin peaks? they always call them dragon,

you know? so i just thought it might be a little nice for the people out there, when they get a little -- not totally disseminated from their culture. it's something that would be good for the few generations that you have asian culture. so that san francisco being diversity influence and practicing, i just want to thank the planning department, r.p.d. for putting in the slide. thank you. >> thank you. >> clerk: is there anyone else who would like to make public comment on this item? okay. seeing none, public comment is closed. >> commissioner low? >> do we have any history with treaty construction? have they done any other parks projects? >> yes. right now -- tooks might have to remind you, but right now,

they are working on -- sorry. i had this this morning but i've forgotten. >> yes. they're actually working on merced heights right now. they are also working on some public works project streetscape projects with public works, so we have vetted them. we believe they can do the work. >> okay. >> okay. seeing no other questions, chair would entertain a motion. >> move for approval. >> second. >> moved and seconded. all in favor? okay. >> clerk: we are now on item 8, award of contract. >> commissioners, general manager, secretary, kelly rudnick. i'm here to bring you george christopher playground award of

contract. this is also for treaty construction in an amount not to exceed $3,335,000. this supports both strategic plan number 1, objective 1.2 to strengthen the quality of existing parks and facilities, and strategy two, objective 2.2 to strengthen the health of san francisco's youth and seniors. there were three bidders for this project and bids were opened on june 14, 2019. george christopher playground is located in the eastern edge of glen canyon park in the diamond heights neighborhood, bounded by diamond heights and gold mine drive and apollo lane to the southeast. the 6.8-acre site includes clubhouse with rest rooms, a softball field, tennis court, children's playground, pathways with bench seating. the trails from george

christopher park and playground connect to nearby glen canyon. the george christopher playground renovation is a named park in the 2012 clean and safe neighborhoods bond, and the purpose of the project is update the current playground for safety and accessibility and provide accessibility to the on-site public rest room. the community outreach process was held in 2015 and 2016 to get the community's desires and conduct the outreach plan. process includes conducting community surveys, prioritizing of desired play elements and feature features, incorporating feedback to iterative concept

adoptions. the commission adopted it in june 2017, and since that time, the department of public works has continued to provide regular updates to community stakeholders, including through meetings to explore additional scope to the project. in june -- just last month, 2019, following a community stakeholder funding request, the district 8 supervisor's office provided additional funding to support additional work at the playground consisting of the repurposes of three midcentury play structures and the expansion of the courtyard fence around the clubhouse. the scope of the work for this project includes the renovation of the children's play area and associated amenities serving it. the plan is fully accessible and meets all a.d.a. guidelines for accessible design. again, i want to note that $140,000 was just received for

this project in this year's capital budget from the district 8 supervisor's office for that equipment, so this award request, this request for approval of award includes a base contract amount of $3,335,000 which includes this add-on work for this repurposed equipment since this funding was just received. the construction is expected to start in fall 2019 and has a ten-month duration. and the project so supported by district 8's supervisor mandelman's office, friend of christopher park, diamond heights community association and the noe valley nursery school. the staff recommends that the commission award the construction contract to treaty construction in the amount of $3,535,000 which includes change orders for $247,000 for

the work identified for the equipment that was just funded by the supervisor's office. >> thank you. >> clerk: is there anyone who would like to make public comment on this item? okay. being none, public comment is closed. commissioners? >> commissioner low. >> maybe my math is off. $247,000 for a change order, but $140,000 was that back -- from supervisor mandelman's office, so isn't there a gap there? >> yes, that's a good question. the -- the gap has actually been funded through some procedural general fund capital funds that we have so we're supplementing these efforts on our side also to make that whole. >> okay. >> sarah, did you want to weigh-in on that. >> yeah, just to clarify, this was -- the community really

wanted to see these -- what would you call them? almost statues retained, and so we worked with the supervisor's office to say if you come up with half of the money, we'll come up with half of the money. >> okay. seeing no other questions, commissioners? >> i would like to move for approval. this is actually a park that i grew up in. my mother referred to me as a park rat. i am a nonnative species. i move to approve. >> it's been moved by the park rat and seconded by commissioner anderson. all in favor? so approved. >> clerk: we are now on item 9. >> good morning, commissioners. i'm monica scott with the capital division. i'm here before you to discuss

the construction contract for yerba buena association to increase the contract amount by $339,000, bringing the total not-to-exceed amount to $1,017,000, which is greater than 10% over the original approved budget of $678,000. i want to stress for the commissioners that this is not a request for additional funds. the project is fully funded. as you all are aware, this was -- this is a very historic site and there were a number of unforeseen conditions that arose in the course of the demolition of this site. we have conditions ranging from layers of asphalt to historic subbase structures for monuments dating back to 1888, so i'm here today to

recommend -- i should say this is supported by the tennis coalition of san francisco, as well, so staff recommends amending the construction contract for the demolition and abatement to increase the contract amount by $339,000. and i'll just repeat the agenda wording, bringing the total not-to-exceed amount to $1,017,000, which is greater than 10% of the original budget. thank you. >> thank you. >> clerk: is there any public comment on this item? okay. being none, public comment is closed. >> commissioners? >> move to approve. >> second. >> move to approve and seconded. all those in favor? okay. thank you. >> we are now on item 10. richmond playground --

>> i'm here for discussion and possible action to authorize the recreation and park department to enter into related agreements with the san francisco parks alliance under the let's play s.f. initiative for the renovation of stern grove playground and richmond playground. as we move through the initiative -- and i'll give you the presentation, but i wanted to pause and say that these are the last two related agreements of the initiative, so it's a really nice milestone to hit. so just for some quick background, as you know, let's play s.f. is a public private partnership initiated to renovate san francisco's 13 most deserving playgrounds. on november 13, 2016, the commission approved an agreement between the department and the parks alliance to accept up to $15 million for let's play s.f. and recommended that the board of supervisors approved the grant, and the board of supervisors gave that approval on february 1. also, on december 15, the

commission approved an m.o.u. that defined the general working relationship between the department and the parks alliance, and that agreement called for the alliance to partner on each park that would receive funding under the agreement. both projects are tier two projects, which means that they will be largely privately funded. the agreements are nearly identical and map out roles and responsibilities between the partners and identify city terms for design services commissioned on public land.

completely coincidentally, the estimated budgets for both sites is $3,050,000. and i did also want to note that the landscape architects were selected by the parks alliance with support from the department after a thorough r.f.p. process, and the two landscape architects are m.i.g., who designed children's center -- children's corridor in golden gate park and is now -- the firm is now working on hertz playground, and they'll design richmond playground, and jeff miller who's designed such playgrounds as lafayette playground will design stern grove. and i'm happy to answer some questions. i see we have some constituents

in the audience. >> a row of ducks came in. >> does he want to speak? >> must have been something you said, lisa, go ahead. >> no, i'm finished. happy to answer any questions. >> thank you. >> clerk: is there any member of the public that would like to make comment on this item? oh, richard. >> he's stretching. it must be a long comment. >> i am. i was just looking at the occupational agreement and what comes up. you have it in the folder. i noticed one of them that -- we talked about it at committee, and there was the conflict of interest and now that might be bounced bang.

if you do the consultation and the work, you can't do the bid. so i just hear that listed on that particular time is in contract. so of the bidders for different project, they also have the subcontractors. so of the issue, what happens--i'm trying to formulate a question -- a rhetorical question. what happens when the subcontractors are in a conflict of interest? that's a very minor question because i'm already looking as they already have the question and been picked up by park alliance. >> thank you, richard. i think somewhere in there was

a question. lisa? >> so just to clarify, these are just award of -- this allows us to enter into agreement with the parks alliance so the parks alliance can enter into contract with landscape architects, so it doesn't have anything to do with construction at this point. >> got it. >> and that the playgrounds will go through the full standard process, so this just allows us to start the participanto participatory process. >> and parks department enters into the contract with the architect. >> correct. it conveys to the parks alliance what the city requirements are from the landscape architect so the parks alliance can make sure the architect meets the requirements of the city. >> thank you. commissioner mcdonald? >> just a quick question. it just seemed odd that both

plans have the exact same budget and the exact same funding. >> to me, too. at this point, they're just estimates. they'll -- once the concept plan is more fully formed, there'll be a more detailed estimate, as well. but it is based on a professional cost estimate provided to the department. >> thank you. that doesn't quite reconcile it to me, but okay. >> it has to do with cost and

existing site conditions and topography. >> why don't we write the contracts ourselves? >> because these are private landscape architects. so the parks alliance is privately funding the hiring of private landscape architects. >> so they're contracting with architects. >> landscape architects, that's right. >> and ultimately, we will contract with the people doing the work. >> exactly. we'll -- the department, through the full standard construction process, will contract with construction contractors, that's right. >> so we normally do not contract with landscape architects? >> no, we normally do not. >> we have our own? >> that's right. >> and in this case, why are we not doing that?

>> why are we not using our own? >> yes. >> so for let's play s.f., it's been a mix from the public works department and privately hired landscape architects, and that's always been the intent of this project because there are private funds available to vary how the contracts were awarded. >> but that was part of the let's play initiative? >> right. >> okay. thank you. seeing no other questions, i would entertain a mometion. >> so moved. >> second. >> it's been moved and seconded. all in favor? >> clerk: we are now on-si it 11. >> the item before you today is discussion and possible action to award a contract to miller company landscape architects in the amount of $152,920 for the

buena vista park needs assessment and cost analysis project. this project honors the department's strategic focus in the project. the san francisco recreation and park department is undertaking a study to assess the needs and associated costs of improvements to buena vista park. the scope of services includes cost estimation, concept planning, forest management planning, and community

engagement. buena vista park is a densely forested urban park in the northern central section of san francisco. the park wide needs assessment and cost analysis project seeks to build upon an existing 2015 project. the project will incorporate the capital improvement plan, community needs and maintenance needs while considering the circulation and hardscape, emotion control and water management issues and forest management. key stakeholder in this project is the buena vista park neighborhood association, bvna. they have provided a grant to assist the department with undertaking this work. the two organizations will be working in partnership on this project, and the consultant will be required to meet jointly with the department and bvna members as a focused

working group. regarding the selection process, a request for proposals was advertised on march 15 of 2019, and the department received proposals from five consultant teams. a selection committee approved by the contract monitoring division was composed of two department staff and two members of bvna. a review of the proposals by the selection committee yielded a short list of three consultant teams which were advanced to interviews on may 2, 2019. following these interviews, miller companies landscape architects received the highest score as determined by the selection committee and approved by the contract monitoring division. the project will receive -- or will feature multiple opportunities for opportunity input and engagement. there will be three community meetings cohosted by the

department and bvna to discuss the needs assessment and to provide feedback through the iterative process. community park walk, led by the consultant team, is also planned to provide field observation and discussion of existing park features. the project was also presented to the haight-ashbury neighborhood council on thursday, july 11, 2019, to encourage additional attendance at the upcoming community meetings. the project is fully funded, and the funding sources are as follows. a grant from the buena vista park neighborhood association in the amount of $50,000. a budgetary add back from district 8 in the amount of 50,000, and recreation and park bond funding in the amount of $162,560.

it's expected that construction will commence in august 2019, and be complete in 2020. a letter of support from the buena vista park neighborhood association is attached to the staff report, and one item that i'd like to clarify for the record is the d-8 support that we received actually referred to the previous supervisor. we have not received notice yet from the current d-8 supervisor. i apologize for that error. staff recommends that the commission award a contract to miller company landscape architects in the amount of $152,920 for the buena vista park needs assessment and cost analysis project. i'd be happy to answer any questions. >> thank you. >> clerk: is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> commissioner low? >> once the report's prepared,

what's the strategy -- what do we do with the report once the needs assessment is completed? >> the need is to identify the areas of the park that are in greatest need of improvement and investment. it's to assist with future planning for construction projects that may occur in the park. >> so the needs assessment is required first before future planning can be conducted? >> it provides detailed scoping and cost estimation to understand the funding that would be required for improvements and could assist with determining future projects. >> thank you. >> commissioner anderson? >> um, can you tell me if a needs assessment and cost analysis is done because we think there's a good chance that we will go on and take

action based on the report? >> yes, that's the intent, is that the needs assessment and cost analysis will determine where investment is -- should be prioritized. knowing that that park is in need of substantial amount of work, and there is significant community interest in making those investments in the future. >> do you know what the possible timeline would be before such a project might begin? >> no, i don't know the timeline. >> okay. thanks. >> commissioner mcdonald. >> thank you. i guess picking up on commissioner anderson's question, i'll presume that not knowing a timeline is because you don't know the scale and scope and what will be required. are there resources already identified at some level that

post assessment you'll have some identified sources? >> post assessment, i'm not aware of any identified sources? >> so basically, we have two strategies for making investments in parks and tackling deferred maintenance. one is through our park program, which is a mix of bonds and grants and phil philanthropy. what we will use this for is we make significant investments every year through the general funding that we receive as a result of proposition b, so we

have -- work there is ongoing, but it is a very significant park both in terms of its size, its topography, and its history. it's something we need to continue to pay attention to and think about how we're going to make even more significant investments there. so the analysis is a guide that we will use to use our ongoing maintenance investments. there's going to be a big figure number of work that's going to be done at buena vista, and we're going to have to figure out over time how to get there. >> thank you. one more question, different point. i just want to make sure i understood your clarification around district 8 support. so we don't know one way or another whether supervisor mandelman supports it or not.

>> we requested a position, and we have not received a response. >> thank you. >> thank you. the chair would request a motion and second. >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor? so moved. thank you. >> clerk: we are now on item 12, general public comment continued. if there is anyone here that would like to make general public comment that did not on item 4, please come forward now. okay. being none, this item is closed. we are now on item 13, closed session. is there anyone who would like to make public comment on closed session? being none, public comment is closed. commissioners, we need a motion and a vote on whether to go into closed