definitely, and we have looked at opportunities to civilianicivilian particularly in a command post where appropriate. one of the things that i would like to point out to the commission and particularly to that commissioner in particular, to get this started, i think all of the departments were asked and agreed upon putting people at a level in the command post that can make decisions. [please stand by]

. >> -- has been looked at closely by the city attorney, several city attorneys, and we use that as our guide, the legal standard, to do all the work that we're doing. and the last part of your

question, it's just like the great presentation by the deputy of police accountability that talked about the mediation process. we're going to take advantage of the mediation process in terms of some of this process -- that they're not happy with with regard to police services. >> commissioner dejesus: i just have two more questions. just bear with me. one of the things that we've learned from the homeless issues is there are people out there that have ptsd, people who cannot live in congreggate settings, who cannot be in close quarters with other people, so there's some people who have those issues. i guess i want to know what is

being done for those that shelters are inappropriate, and how often does this alternative service occur in the field? >> yeah. that's a great question, because oftentimes, public health is at the table. if an officer encounters a situation where the person says look, officer, i would like to go to the shelter this evening, but i just don't want to be indoors, etc., that's communication that we immediately get back to public health on, person's name, information, way to contact them, where they normally are, and we try to make that public health warm handoff so we can figure out a way to fix that situation. >> so commissioners, i would just elaborate slightly and say we do have some beds with the hot team to figure out how to deal with individuals dealing with mental health issues.

we also try to figure out assessments with lead or some of our other programs to figure out a melody tdical detox.

>> -- the question people are asking me is what is the justification or privilege fast tracking those on the streets over those in shelter or those who have been waiting? >> i can answer the part about the shelter beds. every night, pretty much every shelter bed is reserved, and those are for the 90-day reservations? at about 4:00, we find out which reservations will not be used, and then, if we have

urgent situations, we can use the shelter beds for one-night stays, and so resource centers always refer to those, the glide reservation center, the m.s.c. south resource center and mission neighborhood resource center refer into those beds, so we took a small portion of those beds and make them available to sfpd for a couple weeks pilot. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. thank you for bearing with us. >> i just wanted to say this. i think this may have been on your question on ptsd. the fact that every officer is trained in crisis intervention and thinking through them. we make sure if they're on the hsoc team, they have to have the crisis intervention training. and the officers that all participate in this, they're all volunteers. they volunteer for this assignment, and if they want to make a change, we make a change for them because this is

challenging work. >> president hirsch: commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: first of all, i want to say thank you for sticking around and making that presentation. i want to say that all of my colleagues and i are passionate around the issue and we worked as hard as we can to get it right as a commission. one of the things that i want to know that i didn't hear from commander lozar is what's the criteria for joining hsoc? do they just say hey, i want to be on hsoc? are they looking at things in their background? can you just -- >> yeah. so we say we're looking for volunteers. we put out an announcement, sometimes it's word of mouth. the benefit of having a large organization is there's many things that people want to do. officers are interested in traffic collisions or they want

to work plain clothes or on a problem-solving team. well, this group of officers has volunteered for outreach officers knowing it's about helping people, and some of those kinds of things. when someone applies, we look at their d.p.a. history, their internal affairs history, their risk management history, and then, we make sure they're crisis intervention trained. and then, we speak about the type of work that they're about to do and make sure they're a good fit because we don't want an officer on there that is not a good fit for this program. and then, unlike any other unit on the department where we normally require a two-year commitment, we tell them, the day you want to leave, just tell us, and we'll send you right back to your station and we'll pick the next person on the list. because if you're frustrated or you lost your patience or something like that -- we're all human -- you don't need to work with us.

we'll put you back on the foot beat or what-have-you. not to put our director on the spot, but i think the d.p.a. complaints have been fairly low. they've done a great job -- >> commissioner brookter: i do want to echo commissioner dejesus's comments around the data. i'd love to see what navigation

centers and which beds are they coming to, and if they're going back to the city, what areas are they ---to the streets, what areas are they going back to? if we could. >> what i mean by volunteer is asking individual officers or putting out an announcement seeing if individual officers want to do this type of work as opposed to saying i'm assigning you to this whereas you may not want to do this type of work. so we don't want to assign people, we want to get their permission and volunteer to be part of this team and to say no obligations. and then, in terms of the training, crisis intervention,

mandatory. and then, once they join the team, the minute they join the teams, they're participating in the wednesday meetings, taking advantage of every that's bye-bye -- everything that's been presented tonight. so glide's putting on some good training. we want to get the officers over there to get training in that regard. >> commissioner brookter: i just wanted to say that i make sure we're getting the right training. >> absolutely. >> president hirsch: commissioner taylor? >> vice president taylor: i agree with commissioner dejesus, we don't have the answers. there are no easy answers, and i really struggle with this because, you know, we talk about everything that's so important, but there is nothing humane at all about having someone who is in the grips of

an addiction and allowing that person to kill themselves slowly. like, that is the least humane thing we can do as a society. when i talk about being in the grips of a drug epidemic, as a nation, we are. we have people's children and sisters and mothers and brothers who are on the streets in the grips of an addiction, and i feel like we have a responsibility to not just allow people to kill themselves because they're in the grips of an addiction and they're not making the right choices for their lives, so it's really hard. to the extent that folks have solutions -- and we've raised so many things here tonight, and issues. i think hearing disposing of a tent in 90 days, if someone doesn't pick it up, how long should we hold on to it? if people have answers to these

questions, these problems, i'd love to hear them, because i don't necessarily know what the alternatives are. if we have people coming and picking up their belongings after 90 days and others don't, how long should the department hold on to those belongings? we don't have the answers to these things. but it is a really complicated problem. i'm not going to pretend that i know everything, and i just think it's really, really tough, and i think it's important that we all recognize that. and i do commend the department for what you're doing. there are a lot of cities that aren't doing this, and i don't know that you do everything right 100% of the time, but i don't have all the answers. so i want to applaud the work that's been done, and i want to offer people real solutions rather than just kind of pointing at problems because it's all a problem. so i would love to hear solutions just for my own good.

>> president hirsch: thank you. i do want to hear from the coalition on homelessness. i do want to hear from the group collectively, whether you give me one answer or a dozen answers, what is the single most intractable problem that you're facing now, and what is your proposed solution going forward? what are you doing to address that issue? and i don't know who or how many people should answer. >> i'll start with mine really quick. sorry. that's how this works. come on. we'll stand, we'll do this together. just resources for the officers. it's a work in progress, but having the beds has been great, but the officers need the tools to do the work. >> president hirsch: which what does that mean? >> which means continuing to work with our partners in city

government. for example, the announcement of the new navigation center in the bayview was important. i know we tried to do the waterfront navigation center up and running. if i had to call one out, that's the one i'd call out. >> sam peaks with public works. i won't take long. i just wanted to elaborate on what he said, the commander or deputy chief or david. i think beds is the number one issue. our frustration being out there, seeing the folks that are out there, you know, in need and not being able to actually help them is probably the main issue from public works' standpoint because we're seeing the same people over and over out there on the street, so i would say beds is probably the main issue. >> president hirsch: all right. so your request would be probably a couple thousand more beds? >> yeah. >> president hirsch: really? it's a start.

>> so i think the commissioners have said it tonight. when it comes to addiction, it's not an easy solution. i think for the department of public health, we want to do as much as we can in dealing with aix did, but we want to meet people where they're at. addiction is a lifelong journey. it's a lifelong journey to be able to come and detox, to learn some new behaviors, maybe a nexus with just unhealthy conditions. so for us, i think it's really important to continue supporting and funding our groups outreach, knowing how to deal with the population, going ahead and meeting people where they're ought, going ahead and creating job fairs, and creating opportunities where people can come in the door and feel comfortable so that they can actually receive treatment and join us with that journey. >> president hirsch: okay. most intractable problem.

>> the most intractable problem is the lack of supportive housing for people who need a long-term solution? we used to be able to refer people directly into housing that was deeply subsidized with services from the street, and we are not able to in this moment because of the number of people experiencing homelessness. >> president hirsch: okay. thank you all. thank you all for your work and for your presentation. the coalition on homelessness, we are ready for your presentation. do you guys need a break or do you want to keep going? [inaudible] >> like, is it at hot down there as it is here? it's crazy.

>> open the door. >> ice cream? >> have to be on your budget. >> i'll do it, at this point. >> we've been looking at the issue of the criminalization of homelessness in san francisco since 2014 in a series of reports. and what i'll be presenting to you today is just the latest -- and across that whole broad area, our main question has been whether or not the

punishment of homelessness is increasing or decreasing and how the agencies in the state need to affect that. so i do want to just commend a number of the accomplishments that we have seen particularly in the wings of the department of public health, the homelessness and supportive housing department. however, we do have concerns of the role of the department of public works and the san francisco police department. and as you are getting out with your questions, we are unclear if we're seeing a reduction in the criminalization of homelessness and living up to what this ninth circuit court of appeals decision, which is still being interpreted, is being accurately interpreted. so what i'm presenting today is

from a series of public record act requests which we gained. and this was all gained at the -- almost a year ago at this time, so some things, as commander lozar pointed out, will be a bit out of date, and we're open to corrections. but i will say that we did present this in october at the local homeless coordinating board in march. nothing was corrected, and i really commend all of you for the questions that you asked for getting data that will help us understand better what the impact of these changes are. so i don't need to go over this because others are. most of the slides are coming from actual government agency documents here. but as many people have said and stated over in more recent documents, the number one goal stated over and over, is this is serviced led, led with

compassion, and the goal is to assist as many people as possible with shelter, services, and housing. there is also a commitment to community engagement that's been involved in this process that they've stated in various places, and our concerns is they're not meeting the adequate goal of assisting the homeless persons, and that is actually decreasing in the actions of hsoc and the sfpd, and they're not reaching communi community engagement. so i'm going to focus on this first point. as you've heard, this is from the agency rules and responsibilities as it was listed from a slide to a police commission in the past. and as you see at the bottom,

it says sfpd engagement as a last resort to respond to criminal issues. however, as we heard in the recent controller report, it listed that sfpd is the first responder to most hsoc calls. and in most cases, the vast majority, there is not a department of public health or a service provider on hand during these calls. when we asked who is in charge of the healthy streets operation center, this is from their own public messaging, but i won't go over it, because as lozar pointed out, he is no longer the incident commander there and it's more collaborative. and as they say, ideally, every encampment and unsheltered person would be led with a social service placement, however, it's an issue we do not have the capacity to respond to the volume of requests. so sfpd and public works will lead. as you've heard, they want more beds. they want this service led, but

we have more sf approximated. in fact when we began the research in 2014, there was on average about 22 homeless outreach officers in the city. as lozar just reported, we have 34 additional officers. that means we have doubled the police resources in addressing the homelessness in that city. the b.l.a. report that reported we were spending $20 million back then, it's probably much higher, and i would point out that that was not the recommendation of the budget and legislative analyst's office. their recommendation was opposite. and despite that, the resources are lacking. as we see in the areas, our goal is no tents or structures in the city. however, public works and sfpd

will not clear where there is a public public encampment resolution in progress. i'd love too see the date -- to see the data on this, but when i was looking at the data between january and august last year, it was something like 5% of the total -- of the total engagement of hsoc where these resolutions, were people were getting offered more longer term care and actual, what i would call meaningful, genuine shelter. >> what does that mean? >> yeah. it's a technical thing. the homelessness and supportive housing department has what they call an encampment resolution team. this is a highly trained team of officers who will go out and work with an encampment over a number of days and find a good place for them. ideally, this is how we would address all encampments, but we

need to put that in perspective of the total calls and the total encampment responses that are -- that are -- that are happening, right? and when there's a lack of that resolution team, it's what we're left at as what was being described today, an officer, a d.p.w. officer is having to address this on their own. >> what percentage is resolved? >> i can give you the exact statistics, but i have them in an article that might have -- >> president hirsch: let's hold questions and we'll have you present and then we'll ask them. >> sorry. >> as you see in this list here, and this was from an official at d.p.w., peter lau, there's no mention of public housing, department of homelessness, or housing and shelter plan for homeless.

so we have this ideal, but in practice, this is not being carried out. this is a tweet that was put out by the sfpd with a, you know, police vehicle with all of these belongings and their messaging is tenderloin homeless officers worked with the t.l. in cleaning up sidewalks and making the community safer that we serve, which gives you some insight into their inception of services. so this is just getting you to understand how the shelter services work. commander lozar mentioned they offer a genuine offer of shelter to homeless individuals, and that is key to the ninth circuit decision, to give a homeless person a ticket or arrest them when there is not adequate shelter.

what's being debated is what is adequate. before two weeks ago, the city was saying adequate is a one-night shelter bed, and i'm glad to hear they realize this is not working. now, my question is, is a seven-day bed adequate? i'm pretty sure the data will show that people are going back to the streets, and i think a big reason people aren't taking the seven-day beds because it's not long enough. people were moving into the mission to get the navigation center beds. what i see happening is the city actually now watering down those services to offer a temporary holding place. and i'm also curious to hear from h.s.h. to say once we get

them in the shelter, they're not engaging with services. after 90 days, you're out back on the street. and so we need to also think about this. and so if you don't go along with that, as commander lozar said -- and i got to go out on 20 ride alongs with lieutenant nevin is there. i think as nevin said, officers are just asking people to moving along. there can be a lot of consequences to that that are negative, as far as people having to shift into unknown territories, people being assaulted upon those moves, having their tents burned down because they're trying to find a save place to live, a lot of turmoil, but that is the regular procedure. but if you're faced with this issue where you're not going to

be able -- you're not going to shelter and you're being threatened with the tent being taken away, and you saw the option of the property being destroyed, you can't move, you're not going to move or you're going to have your tent taken. so here, we list a number of issues that we find that the inadequate services are inadequately offered. [please stand by]

14,000 citations had been given affecting homelessness as defined by the budget legislative analyst's office. by 2017, we were happy with the department and working with them and getting those numbers down. the last time we got those numbers it was at 9,000, still a

huge number, and a huge cost, most of them unpaid. since 2017 we have not seen that data. i have been on the phone with the treasures office who said the police are not collecting on the data. we should be tracking this. we should be able to see if we are giving more or less citations. these numbers are low. we have heard the citation of 647e mentioned. that is important. that is used to threaten people taking the tents away and taking it as evidence. when i was doing evidence in 2014 and 2015 this was not regularly used at all. this is something we are hearing on the streets and now in data and the prosecutor is not

progresses cuting the cases because the threat carries a lot. we have heard, though, that they are using 647e. we have heard as david lazar mentioned in the march hearing they would take tents from people not cooperating with their orders to move. we know there are more officers now dedicated towards homelessness. more dpw workers doing the cleanings which result in the tents being thrown away. what documentation do we have when the tents are taken away. many people are in the hospital getting food. you try to protect the tent of another person. if that is not your tent, we are going to take it. we have documentation of tents thrown away and the contents in

them. are they throwing away people's property or garbage in so those are some of the things that i want to put into the picture. one last one was that in the controller's report the main statistic they are measuring the reduction in tents. there was i a 40% reduction. the number of new beds added were something like 691. however, we have closed two or three navigation centers. i would be interested how many net beds closer to 150. if we reduced 40% of tents of the 5,000 people and only created 250 more beds, we can understand what is going on here. we are taking people's shelter away. as we have mentioned today

people are dying on the street. we need solutions. we need to mott make it worse. taking the dents away will kill -- will kill the person who is struck on the street and can't get to the shelter. i encourage the commission to ask the questions, continue asks for more data to get a clear picture how this is working and the impacts of people on the street. >> i want be to ask you this same question i asked the last group. the most problems and what do you see as the solution the city can implement? >> i think you can take that on a lot of levels. my favorite answer is supportive housing. i would go higher to affordable housing. you heard could ma lazar descrig

another tickle. shelter beds people want. when i was on outreach with officers, they loved when they could get a person into the place they wanted to be. the truth is they couldn't offer that, very rarely because of the services available. in the shorter term. safe spaces where people can be and not worry about being shuffled around. when you are moving people around as much as we do and the controller's report shows reduce respond times, more police officers and dpw workers. that has consequences. lost medicine, more instability, increases what i saw often times people's need to go steal stuff from other people to survive on

the street and to protect their own property. when you push people around and the whole idea is to avoid complaints. if the police push you around you need a new spot. you don't want to be in somebody else's territory creating tension. why in the bayview? asock is more successful downtown and in the tents. it is my speculation. >> commissioner. i am intrigued we like best practices. we put this together with the police department in the lead. that is great. what is the best practice? is it having the police leading the process on homelessness? >> no. i can send you the federal guidelines on encampment resolutions there. are key things such as enough

time for people to plan to involving the community organizations and service providers. it sounds like they have done very well in collaborating. we haven't seen the community process that would work more with the service providers on that end. there is a number of cities that have taken broader steps. eugene 20% of all 911 calls with homelessness are public health workers. they say we are halting. in santa rosa the court defined what adequate shelter met. 30-days taking into account the gender, ethnic and religious backgrounds, reasons people wouldn't be in shelters, pets and partners. we will see how this provides

shelter and being able to not threaten somebody that they are going to take their tent or move if they don't have a place where they can feel safe. >> a couple other questions. that was interesting. if we doubled resources how much are we spending on this issue? i am asking lazar. when he first heard the report as 24 now 24 plus 34 officers. how much are we spending? >> talking about salary costs of officers? >> what is the bill? >> the overhead mostly is cost of salary. i would have to do the math. >> isn't 80% of the budget

salary? >> 87%. to your earlier point there are homeless outreach officers providing high visible patrol in areas and doing other things. i want to make that point as well. they help backup officers on patrol. i don't have those exact salary numbers. >> it is not just salary, you have department trucks and cars and other resources being used. if you take the trucks and not bagging and tagging. if you are going to the dump it is resources and time. if you can get the picture how much we are spending on this. the question is should the police be the lead? should the police be doing all of the work when we have a collaborative, how much effort do we need to have the police front and center, so to speak. >> i will do that research, yes. >> then it is lazar, one more

question. i noticed in the presentation and he told us in 2014 there were 14,000, 2017, 9,000 citations. we don't have data for the last two years. >> we would have to get the data. we have numbers. the great news those are before the collaboration and before the officers being out front getting people connected. you quoted working with an officer who hasn't done this work in three years. we definitely changed the strategy. we will work together on the numbers definitely. >> the department should consider we should consider the commission whether if the police are going to continue in this capacity if it is worth putting the work together for what role and what resources should be spent on this? that is something we should consider as a mission.

>> thank you. >> before you go i would want to ask do you two folks meet and talk frequently? >> we could have coffee next week, if you would like. >> hang on. wouldn't asoc and the coalition on homelessness have so many interests in common you ought to be meeting regularly? is there a reason not to do that? >> that was put to the policy group many times. recently in the last meeting, it will happen. i know that has been put to the department heads. as i mentioned earlier the last meeting was the topic discussion. we agreed that needs to happen? >> can we do that pretty soon? >> we plan to do that. >> the policy group is the hsoc department heads involved. we have an operational update

every two weeks and department head meeting to address whatever direction that we need to give to the operational team. >> it seems obvious to me. thank you. >> vice president taylor. >> commissioner taylor: you talk about the ad what shelter. seven days is not adequate and 30-days would be adequate to move someone. i struggle with this. i can tell you, i have a neighbor in the wheelchair who complains there is an encampment on our street and they threaten her for money. a friend from australia was assaulted. it is the only way officers can move is a 30-day shelter available. to me, we all have anecdotes.

they are dangerous. i can think of two opposit oppoe examples. i have seen the pd move people is my experience. if there is a 30-day bed available. that suggests that could be a public safety issue. if there is an encampment and the entryway to my building and people are using, we have a different kind of problem in the city. when i ask for solutions, i don't want to hear it, i really want to hear it. that to me seens unworkable. >> we can talk offline. it is more complicated because if you are able to give the people the longer beds which they need and this is the worry in sacramento right now, all of

a sudden what is happening to the shelter supply. as we heard from hsh tonight, there are 10 beds left. at the end of the month or beginning of the month. by next week there will be 100 people in chairs who waited for 4 to 10 hours for a bed and didn't get one. if we start reserving and offering great beds to folk like navigation to the streets this is going to displace other people who are waiting. this was an issue with the navigation centers when they first opened. to complicate the picture of the person living outside o of your door and is a public safety threat because they are using. when we are moving someone we are increasing their threat of their health and safety by

moving them around the city. >> tell me why moving someone who has an addiction why moving to a seven be day shelter increased the risk from dying overdose. >> i mean moving around the city which is the way we are dealing with it now. we are asking people to move. if they go to a seven day shelter bed and some take this and it will be interesting to see the data what happens after the seven day beds. for the most part they are returning to the streets. >> i don't know the answers. you have the complicated problems dumping into each other. i think we do a disservice when it is like it can't be that moving people is bad all of the time or seven day shelters are bad all of the time. if those are always bad we have no solutions. we don't have a city full of

30-day beds. >> these are good questions. how it is handled today versus two years ago or versus another city. we need more data to determine it. over the last two years we may have worsened the situation in investing more money in police and moving people more and increasing suffering on the streets, taking tents more and increasing danger on the streets. that is what i would like to get the data to understand better. >> good evening. i apologize. thank you for your work and presentation tonight. i don't have much follow-up. it seems like you had a lot more questions than answers for the

data. that is something we need to address. to the degree the police commission can have an impact it is great the idea of you working with the partner agencies that have been involved in hsoc. commissioner dejesus mentioned a working group with the department and some of the other partners. is that something you think would be helpful and you would be willing to participate in? >> i would be if it was taken seriously. my hesitation is two years ago there was a task force for the san francisco homeless advisory board can we were invited on. we met and there were some good meetings upfront. over the year 30% of the meetings were cancelled. another large number were changed last minute without our scheduling. it was about their scheduling.

if this was a real partnership and not just going to be sort of, you know, a facade, yes. >> it was the san francisco police department advisory board. it was organized through the commander lazar before hsoc. if there was commission oversight, yes, i would be willing to participate and i know the coalition would be, too, from what we discussed already. >> if we have a say in ownership of, you know, everybody has got to buy in on this in the city. it is impacting policing so much that i do think that a working group might be a good idea here to just keep the ball -- like commander laza are

understanding. i may be harsh. the partner agencies are dedicated people, but getting everybody together and listening to everybody, i think, is always a benefit to discuss as a commission. thank you. >> that would be great. i appreciate it. >> commissioner elias. >> i had two requests one is fulfilled having you at the table because i think it is very important that your input is communicated to hsoc. my second request is that the data be provided and you difficult the lead program which has a phenomenal documenting system and i don't know if that is because it is a grant and that data is required. they have a system to tell you

how many arrests happen in the district, where they were referred what the clinician was and what the result is. they track it. they have a model in terms how the data is to be gathered, collected and produced to the stakeholders to measure howtule the program is. i ask that you lead out and find a similar system to get the data to see if this is really helping or not. >> will do. all officers are participating in lead. thank you. i will follow up. >> okay. thank you for your presentation. incredibly heart breaking. next item. public comment on this last item.

we are ready. >> i just requested he bring in a quieter fan. that is appreciated by all of us, i'm sure. >> i am unhappy with the city. this is no way to treat seven volunteers, members of the police department and public. i will make my feelings known to the city. >> at least i did something about it. >> thank you.

>> first of all, i believe the brown act was violated. the materials were not ready in time before the meeting. that is not unusual. first of all, it's criminal to arrest people for homelessness. it is a chime. it is cleared by theth district --th district court. go here while we steal your stuff. this is theft. the theft of people's property and the only home they have. why don't we go in the encampments and see what the homeless say they need. why don't we say move out of the way so we don't have to look at them. if you are concerned about drug addiction maybe talk to the sfpd

about the raids that are in cooperation with ice maybe you could do something about that. maybe do something with the fact 70% of the homeless people were evicted from the san francisco situation. they didn't come from out of town. without just cause they can't just see evict people. capitalism hires police to protect money not people, not communities. the whole system underlying problem is that we are not concerned about the welfare of the people. i know for a fact in articles people that have gone to reclaim possessions have been told to stand out in the rain. there are reports of people taking their possessions in the department of public works and even selling them. this is theft. not confiscation, not tagging. to continually arrest people that cannot pay bail, cannot afford, you know, the fines

given them is just forcing them deeper and deeper into the criminal system. it is appalling, we are not doing our work here. it is shameless, frankly. >> next speaker, please. >> hello, commissioners and chief. i am the founder and director of the st. francis homelessness challenge. in 2016-17 we worked with four large encampments we acted as a liaison. we made a suggestion two years ago for an hsoc like organization. it is missing a key component working with the encampment residents and advocates and service providers.

people need a place to go. chris mentioned a couple of of things as solutions a safe space. we are working on a cod code complaint management for emergency shelter response a transitional village. we have budgets, the ability to deploy this with political will. we could create a thousand savoringed spaces for people this upcoming year with the transitional villages. it fits with the current emergency shelter ordinance passed earlier this year with the department of homelessness and mayor's office. these are solutions. chris mentioned eugene program, the white bird clinics. the police and fire den departmt love this. 66% of the encounters with

people experiencing homelessness are with crisis, de-escalation expert and certified emt. savoringed spaces and the model are two things i would love to present to the group. i will send you an e-mail with will links. thank you. >> thank you. >> i am evan. i have been a resident in san francisco for seven years. we just saw that value one of hsoc is lead with services. i didn't see anything in the presentation about what happens to individuals who enter shelter through hsoc calls after one month, three months. i didn't see anything in the controller's lengthy report on hsoc. why are short term outcomes not

reported? it might have something to do with the mullin multiple slidesn reducing tents and encampments. the 15 beds earmarked why don't they fill up when there are 5,000 homeless. hsoc does things with homeless. the beds are bare minimum. they cycling people through the system. they are a leaf so they can rationalize and legalize the daily trauma and that take tents and tarps. sweep up possessions and survival gear and make great looking powerpoint slides how it is improving people's lives. they can tart the narcannery

versal after there were 150 instances of narcan taken. these mass confiscations contribute to the 400 deaths on the streets. if referrals are working let's pay the hot teams and stop treating this as a law enforcement issue. >> good evening. i am kelly. i am a human rights organizer with the coalition on homelessness. i am thrilled we are here. i am on the homeless coordinating board. i have been asking for the data and information that you have been asking. i have been asking every month for the past year and a half. we are not getting anything. the things in the powerpoint was

from sunshine request that i had to start digging there. is no transparency, no open communication, and we were seeing what is happening on the streets. we see and i have been doing street outreach in some way in the city for almost 18 years now. it is not new. what we are seeing recently is officers going and i have got to tell you officers are being thrown under be the bus. they don't want to do this. they know they have got nothing. we wish there was somewhere that people could go. the numbers are really simple. it doesn't add up. it doesn't add up. refocus. what we are seeing now is where officers are going out because of the focus is so much on tents. they are saying give up the tents or you are going