if to have a system like this. that was mentioned before. i want to back up supervisor haney that we want to see governance change. . >> supervisor peskin: thank you, next speaker, please. >> first of all, you're not going to get first dibs on becoming an owner of equipment of pg&e. pg&e owns their insurance companies multi- quadruple billions of dollars, is that clear? >> that is why they might want our money? >> no, the persons in the insurance companies get first dibs at the property. the best way to take care of this problem, y'all ready -- you all are ready on the right track, you have to build your own system to distribute your own electricity to the city and county of san francisco. get rid of pg&e altogether. how many more examples do you need to demonstrate that pg&e is

not dealing in good faith, and by the same response never had intentions of reaching a legal agreement on this matter. about this contract agreement that you referred to, in may, if that contract was signed by pg&e and they made a deal with the city, that is a breach of contract. if they pulled out and did not keep up their end of the bargain, understand me. that is an additional lawsuit that should be filed against pg&e. pg&e has been busted by investigator that showed that well over several years ago they were told about their defective equipment and the electrical wires, and the electrical poles could cause a fire hazard. they did not do a damn thing about it. that is further proof. a minimum of 89 people have lost their lives in that fire, that took place, on the other side of the bay. it's disgusting. about you, talking about you want to take over their system, and their defaulted equipment is a waste of money. you can start by going and

gathering god damn new semi get that $21 billion that he put in, and stop rebuilding and build your own system to distribute electricity that you already didn't -- it demonstrated that you can generate on your own behalf. also, -- >> sorry. your time is up. next speaker, please. >> hello supervisors, i am a resident of district one. i am also an electrical engineer, retired, a graduate of davis and berkeley. i think i am probably the only engineer, graduate engineer in this room, of the presenters we saw today. i appreciate, mr. peskin, you are a person with with attention to detail. that is what engineers do. . >> supervisor peskin: i think the general manager of our puc

is an engineer, but go ahead. >> many people who talk about being an engineer, there are many with different flavors. my degree is in electrical engineering specifically. i wanted to speak to the risks, and challenges, little bit and say am probably in favor of the option that nobody wants. one of the things pg&e has now is what they call a scale. the city will lose some of that. it costs that the city won't increase almost certain because of that. i'm not going to go into details, but i think you understand what the scale is. things like distribution facilities, maintenance facilities, all of the things that needed for infrastructure to support the operation are distributed along its territory and can be shared within the territory. we will lose out in san francisco. . >> supervisor peskin: we have some of that upcountry. >> may be some, not all. not to the extent that pg&e in

terms of responding to large-scale things like how many power lines down. i'm not going to get enough time to speak. in terms of the cost, we just talked about the park escalator canopies, and the unexpected high cost, and that is typical. it is a very common thing. i'm not going to go into that any further. finally, about the employees, it has been reported the employees already saying if they're only in san francisco they will lose the ability to transfer out. they will be competing with tech employees for their salaries. . >> supervisor peskin: thank you. no, sir. are there any other members of the public who would like to testify on this informational hearing? seeing none. public comment is closed. ms. hale, general manager kelly, godspeed. any additional comments from committee members? we will be hearing from you quarterly about the red, yellow and green lights of which i

think around that long list you last furnished us which was pages long. everything else was predominantly red, little bit yellow. if anybody out there, from pg&e is watching and they have legions of lobbyists, governmental affairs people, would you at least be decent to the city on that issue. this is amounting to extortion. this has nothing to do with the rest of the conversation we are having. why don't you stop that nonsense with that. we are adjourned. . >> clerk: is there a motion on the item? we will continue the item..

>> good morning. the item.. welcome to life learning academy. my name is craig miller. i am a founder and the chief operating officer at the school. we are so thrilled to have everybody here today to celebrate this milestone event for the school, to provide a home for the kids who need us the most. terry and i and the entire life learning community could not be more grateful to all of you for everything you've done.

i'd like to thank the sponsors for today's event. bear with me, it is a very healthy list. the northern california carpenter's regional council, ey, lows, jamel and tom perkins, linkedin, russell reynolds first bank, community vision and capital consulting, rubicon, kayhill construction, and oliver and company. i also want to recognize a few donors who have made the dorm possible. tipping point. valerie powder, the zeler box

foundation, the louis r. laura foundation and linkedin. this group, along with the city, and sfusd exemplify a public-private partnership model that has come together to meet the needs of young people in san francisco. we are honored to have mayor breed with us here today and to have mayor willie brown's daughter, susan brown, here with us as well. without question, it is because of the support of mayor breed and mayor brown that we are standing here today about to open this beautiful dormitory for kids. [ applause ]. >> it's pretty cool. i would like to begin our program by introducing susan brown, who is going to comment

on her father's long-term commitment to life learning academy. susan. [ applause ]. >> thank you very much, craig, for that very warm introduction. i'm susan brown and my father is willie brown, former mayor of san francisco. he was unhappy because he could not be here today, but he asked me to see what i could possibly say. so i'm here to give you a few words. so our family is extremely proud and extremely happy and extremely excited for these dormitories. in 1998 when my father was mayor, he formed a partnership. and because of that partnership, life learning academy exists. what began with that partnership would culminate into what you

see here today life learning academy, an organization which not only provides excellent educational excellence and experience for students but has acted as a catalyst for change for so many people who have walked through the doors. hundreds of lives have been positively impacted by -- through their programs over the years. and the dormitories today is a goal that they set, which is basically their mission statement at life learning academy. so it is my great honor to introduce to you today the principal of life learning academy dr. terry delane. [ applause ]. >> okay. some people out there who really know me know that i don't need a microphone, but i'm going to do what i'm told to do today. number two, i left my notes at

home. so what i'm going to have to do is just go from what i know. i have been here from day one for 20 years i have witnessed kids come through these doors and in this school and commit to change and commit to non-violence. i am really lucky because i am somebody that has never forgotten where i come from. when i was 16 years old what stands out in my mind as a runaway and heroin addicted, i was with a boyfriend who was really violent. one night he beat me up, threw me out of the apartment we were in, in the middle of the night. what stands out for me is i was sitting on the street corner crying and alone and trying to

figure out who to call. everyone needs to have somebody to call. not too long after that i got a chance -- a second chance at my life and i went to delancy street foundation, where my life was saved. i met mimi and i learned about community and i learned about fami family. and it has been my mission because i know that i owe for the rest of my life to right what's wrong for our kids. and especially those that don't have a safe place to live. [ applause ]. >> this building which you will all see is not a dorm.

it's a home. what it represents is love and support where these students that live here will be able to thrive and grow and have the best of what they deserve. to build a circle of support of which you all are now a part of. when we go through this dorm, you will see how covered we are. we have the willie brown memorial -- mayor willie brown memorial family room. we have mayor london breed's beautiful baskets that she sent to us yesterday for every kid that's going to be living in there. we have mayor ed lee's legacy in

our memorial garden named after him. we can't be better covered than that. [ applause ]. >> i am managing not to break into sobs because this is such an amazing day and i am thrilled because it is now our mission to make this a model so that other schools know what is possible when you can no longer go home each night knowing that you have kids that you love every day that don't have safety, not okay. and can nobody tell you what can't be done. now i'm tired of yelling at you all. it's not your fault. sorry, craig is used to that. he said, no, that's not you yelling. that's you talking. so i have here with me a young woman named lynnie.

i call her lynnie and i've known her since she was 16. she knows what it's like not to have a safe place to live and she found herself a family. and then after being in a few high schools, she came to life learning academy and thrived. i want her just to tell you a little bit about herself and she came here from long beach to be with us. she is family for ever family. our life learning family has been going on for 20 and our kids never forget us. so i'd like to introduce lynn ward. [ applause ]. >> good morning and thank you so much for having me. my name is lynn ward and i'm a proud alumni of life learning academy. i was raised in a housing

project by my grandmother. i'm the youngest of five sisters born to parents struggling with addiction and mental illness. i found comfort in books early on and excelled academically. i earned scholarships. i was always seemingly good on the surface, but my life home was very chaotic. the environment was making it hard to succeed and my neighborhood was filled with the enticing entrapments of the street lifestyle. this all came to a head in my junior year in high school where i was incarcerated for a robbery with a group of girls. this was a culmination of a long-time struggle for me on two diverging paths: the school or the streets. i had a choice to make and it grappled internally with this decision. i had a hard time believing in myself and could not see that there was a life different than

the one i was born into. so there i was facing serious charges, kicked out of high school. i needed a change in my life and my best friend's dad asked if i was ready and to make a phone call. that phone call was to terry, the principal of life learning academy. i interviewed with her, and during my conversation i realized my life was not a game, that turning my life around was important to her, to the school, and that i had a community that was willing to support me. i knew this because terry told me herself that she would be on me like white on rice. those were literally her words, and she was. so was my college councilor, the vice principal. i knew the school's number and terry's cellphone number by heart because if i missed school or was late, they were calling me and asking me where i was at. a kid like me, that's what i

needed. i needed caring and constant adults who noticed when i missed class, provided me with the resources to earn money and the environment to self reflect. i needed real conversations about the struggles i faced and opportunities for future success. i graduated this past june from cal state university long beach with a master's degree in political science. [ cheering and applause ]. >> i am a senior employee with a small business in long beach, having been with the company for four years. i'm a mentor. i volunteer. i like to travel. i like yoga. i live a positive life. without life learning academy, i would not be where i'm at today. sorry. life learning academy helps give you the building blocks to build my life to something better than i thought i could be. because of the impact on me, i was invited to speak about life

learning academy at a conference this past october in san francisco. mayor breed gave the keynote address at the conference and i was fortunate enough to meet her. she took time to talk to me. she offered me an unpaid internship upon graduation. like me, mayor breed was raised by her grandmother and the housing projects of san francisco and was able to fight her way out through the support of her community and educational opportunities. i admire her because she's charted a path for herself, rising above the obstacles to become the first african-american woman mayor of san francisco. [ applause ]. >> she never forgets where she comes from, where we come from, and continues to advocate for more equitable society, especially for youth, evidenced by, among other things, her ongoing support for l.l. a. that is why i am so honored to

introduce her today. ladies and gentlemen, mayor london breed. [ cheering and applause ]. >> mayor breed: thank you so much. thank you so much. it really is an honor to be here and let me just say thank you to lynn. we are so proud of you and this is what this school represents. i got to tell you, when i was growing up, we didn't have life learning academy. in fact, the very same kind of circumstances that lynn experienced was the same kind of circumstances that i experienced. the reason why i was raised by my grandmother had a lot to do with challenges with my family. and unfortunately, it didn't end up so well for my brother, who's still incarcerated, and my sister who i lost to a drug overdose. so i'm one of six siblings who

was really fortunate to have supportive people in my life. that's why the work that i do is so important to support young people, because i know the difference that it can make. so when i worked here at the treasure island development authority many, many years ago -- some of you probably didn't know that -- i remember the day that mimi silver came to the treasure island development authority, building 1, and someone said, well, mimi is downstairs and they called upstairs. they're like mimi silver, send her up right away. people lost it because of the fact she was there because they knew how hard she worked for the community. she along with others were really putting together under the leadership of the former mayor willie brown this incredible life learning academy and i had the pleasure of

working on the lease to get this thing done. i'm really proud of the work that i did. i made the mistake of attending the first graduation 20 years ago. for those of you who go to this graduation, you make sure you have your tissue because i was -- i think i was sitting next to mike delane, terry's husband, and i was boo-hookiing the whole time. these people couldn't believe they made it through. i remember the story of one of the young men who said he wasn't going to school that day when the delancy van showed up to pick him up. and the guy who was driving said i'll be right here waiting until you get into the van. they would not take no for an answer. they were on those kids like white on rice. they were not going to let one of those kids fail.

so that's why today is so incredible. it's long overdue. it's long overdue to have a place for kids who may not have the best environment at home, where we know the challenges of sometimes living in poverty can take you in the wrong direction. where we have seen too many of our kids cycle in and out of the criminal justice system, when we know they have so much indecreed potential to do amazing things. providing a safe place for them to be, a safe place to call home and be amongst one another and a supportive environment where they are part of a real family, because delancy street is a loving family, they provide love and good food and hugs. terry hugs everybody. that is what you need to grow and to thrive.

they've been doing it for 20 ye years. over the years i worked with young people at the african-american culture complex and as soon as i had a child that was in and out one of the schools -- like, i've had kids who sadly went to almost every high school sometimes in san francisco. the person i would call and ask, can you please take my baby because he needs structure, he needs support, terry without hesitation always tried to make a way for any kid at the life learning academy because she knew if she got her hooks on them they were going to graduate and they were going to go on and succeed in life. now she's probably going to move into this dormitory because this is going to be an incredible place so that we can make sure that despite the circumstances that some of our young people are facing in their home environment, they have a home right here at the delancy street

life learning academy. this is one of the most -- and i'm not crying. my allergies are killing me. but this is one of the most amazing things that we can do. this example that we're setting today by opening up this dormitory will be a model for other schools throughout the country. this is how we make sure that our kids succeed. this is how we make sure that despite the obstacles they're facing, that we provide that wrap-around support which includes a place that is safe, that is secure, and provides the love and the support that they need to succeed. in san francisco we know we have some major challenges with homelessness. when i'm walking the streets in the tenderloin in particular, i see a lot of folks who i grew up with who fell through the

cracks. and i can't help but think if we as a city can do better by all of our young people, we will prevent that from happening to them in the first place. part of the investments that we have been making to end youth homelessness in san francisco, including the rising up campaign, has led to -- although the homeless point in time count has gone up for the city as a whole, for youth homelessness we've seen that decrease by 10%. we need to get that to 0. because we have an obligation. i believe as folks who have been fortunate to succeed in whatever capacity, it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor or what have you, we all can give time and of ourselves to invest in young people to make sure that they grow and they thrive. that's what i'm committed to, not only with the rising up campaign, but with the

opportunities for all programs where we will make sure that every high school student in this city has access, lynn, to a paid internship if they desire. so today is an incredible day of celebration. we have waited so long for this, and i can't thank all of you enough, especially the people who have contributed to making this possible. yes, the city was able to provide some support and we should provide support and i will continue to make sure that we make investments to support this incredible institution. but the people who really contributed and continue to support the life learning academy and making this dormitory a reality for our kids, thank you so much. this is absolutely amazing. it's really an honor to be your

mayor and really great to see projects like this happen because this is going to save and change lives for future generations here in our great city. thank you all so much for being here today. [ applause ]. >> okay. so, i mean, mayor breed said she -- the city put in some, but the truth of the matter is without mayor london breed we wouldn't be standing here. the city came to our -- what we asked for, the city gave us. the belief in us and the support from mayor breed, the vision and leadership from mayor willie brown is why we're standing here right now. so again, i want to really thank them and thank susan so much for coming. she took pictures of willie brown's beautiful plaque when

you'll see as we do tours of the dorm. now, what we're going to do first is take some pictures -- well, we're going to take some pictures up here for a few minutes. i'm going to have my kids come up. you can mingle around and have a bite to eat. our chef derrek is amazing. we eat like this every day. food is so important to us. then we'll come back and have tours of the dorm. thank you all so much. [ applause ] [♪]

>> good afternoon. i would like to call the meeting at the san francisco public utilities commission to order. can we please have the roll call , madam secretary? >> president cane is excused today. [roll call] we have a quorum. >> the next item is the approval of the minutes for july 23rd, 2019. is there a motion to approve the minutes of july?

>> so moved. >> is there a second? >> second. >> any further comments on these minutes? all those in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? the motion carries. the next item is general public comment. i have a few cards here. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, commissioners today, i want to recap, you know , when i come over here during general public comment, sometimes i reveal to you all a few things and then when i sit down, and, you know, i cannot be here forever, because i have other things to do, i leave. and other people come and they

talk about your interns and this and that, and we the public, and the constituents and taxpayers of the bayview hunter's point area, we are not fully cognizant of what is happening with large amounts of money, okay? so one of the commissioners, i will not name him, he did say the last time about the sewer system improvement project. is started with a 6 billion-dollar figure, and i'm telling you that at the rate things are happening, it's going to be like $15 billion, i repeat , $15 billion. with what is happening in the economy, the tariffs, and so on and so forth. now, none of our commissioners, i know two commissioners over there went to check on this and

something else. and then when somebody was giving a presentation here, she said, you know, they are going to go down 30 feet, and then it commissioners said no, we were told that we are going to go to bed rock, and so on and so forth so this mickey mouse must stop. this mickey mouse with the millennium building, it is sinking 22 inches and tilting 1e salesforce building. we must be aware of such facts. now we have people in the san francisco public utilities commission who know nothing about workforce. let the workforce be done by the unions, that's where it belongs. i've said, in very simple terms, because i know about workforce a lot, that we want career jobs,

we don't want this mickey mouse with some interns and we want to talk about the sewer system improvement project and bring the interns from the water system improvement project. lasting they had interns over here, and they heard to speak and they said wow, is this what is happening with the as if you see? and they left. commissioners? we need to do our homework. we need to have our heart in the right place. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> can i comment through the chair? >> please. >> thank you for your words because the labor movement is the only independent organization of different trades in america that actually fights for workers. for you to acknowledge that, i thank you. >> thank you, commissioner. i have another public comment card from and clark. good afternoon.

>> good afternoon. thank you very much for having me. i am with the commonwealth club of california. you have an announcement, i think it is very strange to have this announcement on november 10 th, but these announcements have to go in early. so we got this done so that we could get it to you so it can go into the magazine and the programs at the commonwealth clubs. november 10th is city college of san francisco engineering, architecture, technology and the environment, and we gave you a list of the kinds of things that we are doing at city college. it is really quite wonderful. you will see that there's a lot going on in terms of the environment and a lot of help that we have had all of these years from s.f. you see. we really want to thank you for all of your help and support.

and finally, i really need -- i mean this has been a wonderful alliance between san francisco and city college. finally, i want you to know i was a volunteer leader for camp may there for the last week. and we won the bingo problem. we had the highest bingo. >> congratulations. >> thank you. it was hot up there, we had a wonderful time, and as always, camp mather was really fun and really good. we had an awful lot of little kids this year. it was quite amazing how many little kids and families that were there. we had a couple people who came, and we also met his father-in-law in the line for dinner. if you get a chance to go to camp mather, come because it is

a very special place. again, we look forward to the program on november 10th, and i will remind you of that, of the city college of san francisco's engineering, architecture, technology and environment program that we will have on november 10th. thanks a lot. it will be at the commonwealth club. thank you. >> thank you. thank you for all of your good work on behalf of camp mather. we really appreciate it. i have another public comment card. good afternoon, peter. >> good afternoon. i'm with the river trust. as i have mentioned before, we have had some concerns about the water supply assessments and the disconnect between sfpuc and the planning commission. it sounds like some progress is

being made in communications, which is a good thing. i will share a letter that we submitted on the flower mart project from the planning commission just to give you a sense of some of our issues. our concerns did attract attention of the mayor's office and we appreciated people pulling together a small meeting last week. we appreciated others participating. it was a constructive meeting. we hope it was the beginning of an ongoing dialogue. we think there are a lot of things we could do working together to meet the state's goals of ensuring reliable water supply and restoring the ecosystem. there are a lot of factors that influence water supply and longer-term outcomes. for example, demand, and sa pointed out before, there was quite a difference between projected demand for 2018 and

actual demand of the 31 -- there was a 30 1% difference. if we can get better at demand projections for the future, that should impact our drought planning scenario. water rights and new supplies, we talked about it a number of times here. there are flow requirements from the state board and the sfpuc. if it is based on the fourth agreement, it is 51.7%, if it is based on a share of use, it would be 20%, that would be a big difference. the board has not determined how they are going to address that so far. the level of rationing, we saw 30% decline in demand between 2006 and 2016. that was quite remarkable, and it shows we can accomplish a lot by storage. maybe their opportunities, especially additional groundwater storage, maybe in the central valley partnering with the irrigation districts to capture extra water on what years and sharing some of that, similar to the water bank on pedro. and then obviously drought planning, which is something that has come up a lot.

we are hoping that weekend have ongoing dialogue, engaging stakeholders, and see if we can work together to come up with a solution that meets everyone's needs. thank you very much. >> thank you. any other general comments at this time? hearing none, next item, please. >> item five is communications. >> so you have before you communications. are there any questions or comments on anything in the communications packet? any general comments? public comments on communications? hearing none, next item. >> item six is report of the general manager. >> good afternoon, commissioners the first item i would like to bring up michael carlin to talk about they delta water quality

control plan update. >> actually, we will have steve do the presentation, but i can do it, as well. i am here today. >> good to see you. it has been a while. >> i have been on vacation at camp mather. >> a big bingo week i understand >> before you start, do you want to share -- i mean you can have steve give the presentation, but i want you to share the meeting that you had with the mayor and peter and what the outcomes were , and the commitments that were made. >> we did have a meeting in the mayor's office. the mayor's chief of staff did convene a meeting with the senior visor on the environment.

in attendance were several people from the river trust and river strategies and gatekeeper. the purpose of the meeting was to allow the stakeholders to present what they think needs to be addressed by the p.u.c., and in many cases, we agree with them because there are things that we are going to do, or are doing that are ongoing such as, we are looking at diversifying the water supply. we have are many questions -- discussions about that. we are working on those projects they are in our budget and we will be presenting those to you as well as talking to some of the stakeholders. some of those projects involve others, as mentioned, such as the modesto irrigation districts , but we haven't reached a point where we actually have project proposals to put on the table with them. we continue to work on those. we continue to work going

forward on our demand projections and our draft scenarios. next year we have to deal with the urban water management plan. in that plan we have to show the projections of what we think our water supply needs will be and how we will meet those needs, and how we will basically whether a drought. we have eight drought protection -- production cycle of eight and a half years. that is consistent with where the state is going. right now they are at five years and if we look at what they are trying to project to do in the california water plan, they may be asking for longer drought scenarios based on climate change. the other thing that we have been working on, and this is the process of launching an agreement, and launching an agreement just as the water quality with a full plan. and the voluntary agreements that we have proposed, we stated publicly a number of different flow and nonflow measures.

and what i mean by nonflow measures as habitat improvements on the river for the fish that were targeted for enhancement. as we worked work through that process with the state, and i will steal all your thunder, steve, sorry. we are working with the state team and the state team consists of -- if i can go to the slides will quickly, that would be helpful. so this is just a depiction of the rivers and their tributaries of course, were talking about the three tributaries on the lower san joaquin river.

these are the three river systems that were covered by the plans. and no other river systems are covered by the plan that was adopted on december 12, 2019. but the agreement process is represented by many of the tributaries that are depicted here, including many of those on the sacramento side. you have to keep that in mind as we go through this that while the plan affects three tributaries, the voluntary agreement process is affecting much more than that. so when i talk about the team, what i mean by the state team as a secretary for the california natural resources agency, the secretary of the california environment protection agency, the state water board and their staff, the department of water resources, in the department of fish and wildlife. so these are the principal players that we have been dealing with in negotiating with over the past several months. they are trying to process as one state, which we appreciate because otherwise we get fragments of discussions and direction from the state.

there are a number of different work groups that have been formed. i apologize if some of these things are cryptic. assets to outcomes means basically how do you use the flow and nonflow measures to have a projection of an outcome for a fishery? enhancement of the fishery, doubling of the population, those kinds of things that are actually necessary to have a measurable outcome, and we are working on what those are as far as biological and environment of targets. it is not like we're just going to put water down the river, but there is a target we are trying to hitch. there's also a government science and adaptive management group. they're trying to promote the decision-making process. for the river, many of the flows and nonflow measures are also part of a fork process that are energy regulatory commission process and the relicensing of the dam. this is where the fourth agreement comes in. our assets, our flexibility is

not there is much people would like to think. for example, on the sacramento side, they're talking about, when did they want to have flow show up on the sacramento river? they have much more discretion because they can have the water show up in june, they can have the water show up in may, we are looking at targeting mid march and april for flood cleaning and outmigration flow probably in late april to may, to june. part of this also is a discussion has a state water contractors. i have talked to you about putting a.v. on diversions. this will be money that they would collect and part of the government science and the documentary program would be to distribute those fees and how they are allocated and spent. >> sorry, who would issue this?

and he would do it? >> if you want to look at it this way, the question is whether or not we participate in that or not and that has to be determined because our assets are not that flexible and we are also self funding all the improvements on the river right now. >> who would determine how this would be spent? >> that is part of the hold government structure. when i talked about what i showed you earlier, it is the intro to the tributaries and san joaquin. the discussions are now dominating on the sacramento side. that is where 80% of the water goes into. the exporters, the central valley project and the state water project are heavily invested in that system. that is where most of the water is and that is where most of their assets are located. >> it is part of the conversation of what the government structure could and should look like. would that be part of the vsa,

part of the plan? >> it could be. this talks about whether there is an overall umbrella agreement amongst all the parties. that is nothing else we could look at. a number of different policy issues, the first one is a critical path one. whether the plan should be amended and related to the viability of native fishes. right now we have a narrative objective and a near -- any numerical objective. we're looking at whether we have a narrative objective and then use a plan of limitation to include the numerical target or the voluntary agreement. that is something we want to talk to parties about. we don't want to have -- if we agree with the state team, we don't want to have the state water board as part of the team to come back and say, we want more from you, we want to settle all at once and all the parties are approaching it that way.

enforcing commitments by the state water board, and this is where i'm not a lawyer, and i can't even quote the government code section. basically that would be placed into the plan and would allow the state water board, under that government code section, to take enforcement code action to any nonperforming party. i think that's really important to have that. and there's another big question that comes up and that is what happens at the end of 15 years? we are already kind of discussing how, you know, if you think about the lifecycle of the salmon, the lifecycle of the salmon is about three years. and a 15 year period you might have five year classes and, you know, what happens if -- it is hard to see a trend, you know, so we are already talking about if things are performing well, if we are meeting our targets, and doing some of the things we would do, there could be an automatic extension of the

agreement. >> question. >> sure. >> so the state is basically looking at the biggest rivers. >> yeah, the two biggest rivers. there are numerous tributaries. >> so the tributaries in your agreement, you all are saying, we want to include the others. >> correct. >> so with the state saying you don't fulfil your obligations -- >> they all have their own separate agreement and then there might be a pour over agreement of how the parties are going to work together. and then some parties, let's say there's tributary exit doesn't have an agreement, the plan would actually subject them to the elements of the plan that, you know, we are trying to get away from unimpaired flow to get into functional flow.

they'd be subject to the unimpaired flow appreciation that we could put in place. if your party is looking at that as an option, you want to come up with a plan that makes sense. >> you mentioned platinum advises at the very beginning. who did they represent? >> i'm not exactly sure. i just noticed that was on the card. >> he was an individual representing himself? >> yeah. i was just trying to associate who was with what. i think he is just on his own capacity. >> okay. platinum advisors -- i would like to know who is in the room. if he is in there on his own, that's fine. if he is there with platinum advisors then -- >> i will refer that back to you >> thank you. >> going back to the slides once again, i already mentioned this.

some of our issues are the state team in the majority of the participants are focused on the sacramento river side. that's where 80% of the water comes from. i think one of the things that we have is a very structured and well thought out and detailed voluntary agreement that we have put together. some of the other agreements are still fuzzy. they need to get a little bit more clarity with how they are participating. we are the only tributary that is involved in the voluntary agreement on the san joaquin river side. there are ongoing discussions with those entities and hopefully we can bring them to the table because it would be nice to have a package of all the phase i entities. the technical details really are important. you need to be very clear about what we're saying, what we are committing to, and how we're going to achieve that over a 50 year period.

it is important to you as a commission because you will be approving, authorizing, appropriating funds to carry out these military agreements -- these agreements. schedule. so this is where you won't see me anymore. august 23rd is when the state workforce will come up with biological goals. this is only going to affect phase i which is the three tributaries that i have mentioned. by october 2019, the state board will have a determination of whether or not they are satisfactory for ceqa analysis for the state board as an alternative to what they have already written. and then they have to carry that forward in a sequin analysis and a substitute if environmental document. they also need to put together by statute, a scientific basis report for the voluntary agreements.

there's thinking that those might be done by spring 2020. they have put out an outline of those reports. we have actually commented on those. we will hear back from them. right now the schedule is that they will complete the draft sequel document by summer of 2020, and finally adopt it in summer of 2021. that is also what i would think they would take action on the state water board. it is kind of a long schedule. things can happen, as we all know, but we are on this path right now and we will continue to stay on this path and continue to negotiate and talk to anybody, anywhere, any time about that decision. i will be glad to answer any questions. >> i have a couple of questions. >> i just wanted to also point out that we are planning to give a presentation to the planning commission. >> right. we are coordinating with the mayor's office to give a

presentation to the planning commission on the assessments and what they mean. we have been working very closely with the planning assessors as we always have to put this information forward to the planning commission prior to that meeting. there's a memo that will be prepared by planning commission staff. we are involved in this. we will report on the date when that takes place. >> we have accardo -- can we have a copy, too? >> absolutely. >> august 23rd, when the biological goals will be set, that will come from that state working group? >> no, it comes in the state water board staff. they will just release the document. they will be kind to build a schedule and workshop around those goals. there's no timeline about how they would adopt them or what they mean. we have asked questions about whether they are part of the water quality control plan, whether it is a statement by the

state water board, and we are still in those discussions with the various parties in sacramento about that. >> i would love to request at our next meeting, that will be a public document, i assume? >> sure. >> that we could get a briefing on what those say. i think those have significant implications especially since we did put a red -- put forth a resolution asking for the outcomes and what those look like. >> right. we will read it over the weekend and be ready. >> i also was curious about where the points of contention still seem like they are in these conversations because my recollection is they were still april the tea relatively big divide on the p.u.c.'s plan, on rva, if you will, and some of the other, particularly the nonprofits, with some of the other groups and agencies that have different opinions. are they still a point of it contention that you are trying to iron out? >> absolutely.

one of these issues is that the voluntary agreement to the unimpaired flows. sometimes it will be less than what is in the state plan right now, but we believe that bike on -- compensating it, would have to have improvements and other measures that we get a far superior outcome than what the state board has proposed. we are having discussions with the state board staff because one of the things that they are trained to figure out is how they value the habitat improvements. they did not do that in phase i. there is not -- no talk about if you prove that fish can spawner you improve conditions over summer, basically the floodplain habitat, there was no discussion on the part of the state board -- state board staff. they running some models and in your resolutions. we were urging the state water board to do early peer-reviewed of some of the models that they are using so we can see how they

are functioning at this point. >> right. that is underway. >> not quite yet. we are still talking about the board staff and they have issues with the model that they want to run. it is not lining up or conforming to some other model results. it is within the state team that they are trying to iron that out if ironed out this week, we will know which way we are going, in which direction. i should mention that basically we think it is valuable for you to know. >> that is good to hear. that has been on the table for a while. >> yes. >> i think that would encourage a lot of the people with these processes. >> correct. >> thank you. >> any questioners for him?

>> on the presentation of the planning commission, i had hoped that we would be able to adopt a policy about extreme shortages and how the rationing would be under those circumstances. we hoped to have that at the last meeting. will we have an opportunity to adopt the policy before the presentation is made to the planning commission? >> i don't have a firm answer to that. right now there is talk towards the end of august and so i'm not sure that is firmed up yet but if i can come back with a date to the secretary, then she can pass that on. >> if the commission has action that is more general than just the handful, it provides a policy framework that supports those assessments. i think that would be as just