not only have we dropped diagnosis by 13%, but we have finally seen this number go below 200 for the first time ever. that is significant. [ applause ]. >> mayor breed: it's progress that we should all be so proud of. this shows that when we work together with the community, with our policy makers, with our public health experts, our non-profits, we can truly make a difference and save people's lives. i'm particularly proud of the department of public health. they continue to show their commitment to innovative and ground-breaking health solutions. i also want to thank ucsf and getting the goal coalition and all of those with us who continue to show their

commitment to addressing this issue as well. even though we've reached this incredible milestone here in our city, we know that there are still disparities that exist, specifically by race and ethnicity, by age, by gender, and, sadly, by housing status. these disparities highlight the work we have to do to continue to get to zero and really trying to remove the barriers, the stigma, the discrimination, so that we can truly end new infections, which is our ultimate goal. in fact, in 2018, african-american men had the highest diagnosis rate. african-american women also had the highest diagnosis rate.

fighting this should be our focus and we are taking steps to do so. this week the department of public health will launch a competitive bid process where we will allocate $8 million in additional funding to community organizations primarily serving the african-american, latino, transgender and substance-user communities in order to strengthen the work that we are already doing. [ applause ]. >> mayor breed: we have programs right here at ward 86 that others will talk about to really continue to help those that, sadly, we know are homeless. just last week, we announced our new initiative to help those suffering from mental health and addiction who are homeless on the streets. this initiative, our heal our city initiative, will help us to serve, treat, and house those living with h.i.v. and help prevent new h.i.v. infections.

again, i want to thank everyone here today who is doing work, including dr. graham cofax who has been an advocate and working in this field for so many years, your incredible leader of the department of public health. i want to thank the positive resource center for their work. the san francisco aids foundation which had an incredible event and continues to raise money to invest in this effort. the transgender law center. aids legal referral panel. the lgbt center. all of the leaders of the getting to zero coalition. your work is truly appreciated and the value of what you do makes a real impact, as we can see by the numbers that we're presenting here today. it is something that we should be proud of. and yes, the work and the investments will continue to be

made. this is a milestone for our city. i want to thank each and every one of you for your work and advocacy to get us to this point. with that i want to take this opportunity to introduce a champion in this effort. this and so many other issues that we need to address in san francisco around mental health reform and others, supervisor rafael mandalman has been an incredible force in addressing this issue as well. the supervisor for ward 8, supervisor mandalman. >> thank you, mayor breed. thank you for your tremendous leadership on this and so many other issues. as i walked in today, i had a couple of thoughts. one is every time i walk into ward 86 i get a little bit ver

clempt because of the amazing work that has been done here for decades and then the amazing work that continues to be done to chart a new path to actually get us to zero. i am such a fan of dr. gandi and of all the folks who gave me a tour early this year or last year, i don't remember when it was. this is an extraordinary place. walking in here and seeing this collection of the city's public health talent, i am just -- we are very, very lucky. [ applause ]. >> yeah, they deserve some plaza for the work they do each and every day to keep this city healthy and make it healthier. this report has fantastic news. dropping under 200 reminds me a little bit of 20 years ago, 21 years ago at this point. i am old enough, as some of you are as well, to remember when the bay area reporter had its

first no abyss issue. now we are trying to get to the next step of no deaths and no new infections. to the folks who conceived that several years ago and have been pushing for that goal, i want to extend profound thanks and congratulation on the success that we've made. some of the data -- i mean, my aide got me some of the amazing statistics. overall in the city, 94% of the people living with h.i.v. are aware of their infection. that is an extraordinary number. that is not true in the rest of the country. you know, there were no children under the age of 13 were diagnosed with h.i.v. since 2005. babies are not being born with h.i.v. in this city. that is an extraordinary accomplishment. we are getting people tested. we are getting folks into treatment. that is how we got closer and closer and closer to zero.

that leaves the bad news in the report that we're going to hear more about, which is the persistent challenges and, in fact, the increasing rates of infection among african-american, latin max, folks on the street, folks struggling with substance use disorder, and mental health issues. i want to thank dr. cofax and mayor breed for the creative thinking they have brought to that issue. we know we will not get to zero until we get a handle on really getting care to the folks on the streets who are living with so many challenges, who you see every day in ward 86. i think what the mayor has recognized -- thank you, madam mayor for recognizing it -- it is going to require cross-departmental collaboration, non-profit government, private actors all working together to really solve these challenges. everybody can do their part. here at ward 86 you've come up

with a pop-up, innovative program to give folks the care they need. they don't have to make the appointments. they come in and you'll wrap around them and give them everything you can in each of those encounters you can. monica gandi moved out of this ward, so i'm not happy about that. i'm happy you're still in san francisco. all of you who have gotten us to this milestone and going to get us to zero, thank you so much. [ applause ]. >> mayor breed: thank you, supervisor mandalman. now to talk a little bit about the report is the director of the department of public health, dr. grant cofax. >> thank you all, today. it's great to be back in ward 86.

i worked here for over a decade and i'm looking forward to returning to the clinic to be a clinician as well. i experienced, as with many of you, the grief and the sadness and advances that we've made with h.i.v. i started as a medical student and we've seen the progression that we've made and the progress that's been accomplished. whether you're a community provider, a clinician, a researcher, a member of the press, i think the legacy teaches us that it takes a collective vision, a collective effort. priority-setting, and understanding what are the priorities in the system to help us do better. that's the san francisco h.i.v. model. that's our home-grown model that got us here today with h.i.v. it will get us to zero.

getting to zero has the department's full support going forward. i think as importantly is the san francisco model for what we do with h.i.v. will also be the model for how we address what may seem like intractable health problems today. think about where we were 20, 25 years ago. think of where we started. who would have thought we're getting below 200? we still have much more work to do. we must be bold. we must be innovative, both and h.i.v. and with mental health and with substance use and with addressing the intersection between health and homeless. speaking of both vision and innovation and getting us to where we need to be, one of the key people in this city who's doing ground-breaking research, dr. hyman scott of the public health department. dr. scott. [ applause ]. >> thank you, grant. thank you for inviting me to say

a few words about some of the work that we're doing, and the focus on really addressing disparities in our epidemic in san francisco. i'm a clinician here at ward 86. i came to san francisco because this was the model of how you take care of people as they come. i think our focus on disparity has to focus on ensuring that we reach people where they are and that there are no hard-to-reach populations. there are just hard-to-deliver services and we need to rethink the way that we approach some of those services. i think pop-up is a great example of that. some of the other street medicine and other opportunities to expand prep and treatment outside of the four walls clinics. although my focus has been on prep and we've seen overall increases in prep use and continuation in san francisco, we have seen lower rates uptake among black m.s.n., for example, 10% in other race and ethnicities.

in 2017, that was the case. in 2018, it does look like that gap is closing. we've also looked at some of our data across our primary care clinics. it does appear when people start prep, they don't always stay on prep. the average duration on prep is eight months, despite continuing risk for h.i.v. acquisition. we take care of individuals after they have been on prep and stop prep. some of the barriers people have are related to access, costs, insurance changes, perceptions of risk, and discrimination. i think we really want to support people as they initiate prep in their communities, with their providers, to ensure that people who want to access prep can stay on prep. we also have a focus in ensuring that the systems in which people receive care particularly for prep and treatment are affirming places and that we address the structural issues, including structural racism that a lot of ou

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fight are you cable of getting that person whether large or small into captivity that is the test at times. >> as an agent worked undercover and prevent external and internal loss to the company it was basically like detective work but through the company from that experience and the people that i worked around law enforcement that gave me an action when i came to be a cadet i saw i was exploded to more people and the security he was able to build on that. >> unfortunately, we have a lot of women retire to recruiting right now is critical for us we gotten too low faster the percentage of women in the department and us connecting with the community trying to get people to realize this job is

definitely for them our community relations group is out attempt all the time. >> in other words, to grow in the fields he capitalized any education and got my bachelors degree so i can current work at city hall i provide security for the front of the building and people are entering entering but within any security or control within the building and checking personal bags is having a awareness of the surrounded. >> there is so month people the brunet of breaking into this career that was every for easier for me had an on the with an before he cleared the path for laugh us. >> my people he actually looking at lucid up to poem like he joe and kim and merit made

they're on the streets working redondo hard their cable of doing this job and textbook took the time to bring us along. >> women have going after their goals and departments line the san francisco sheriff's department provide a lot of training tools and inspiring you to go into the department. >> they gave me any work ethics she spider me to do whatever he wanted to do and work hard at the intersection. >> if you're going to make change you have to be part of change and becoming law enforcement i wanted to show women could do this job it is hard not easy. >> finds something our compassion about and follow roll models and the gets the necessary skeletals to get to

that goal with education and sprirmz whatever gets you there. >> if this is what you want to do dream big and actually do what you desire to do and you can go vertebrae far it is a fast job i wouldn't do anything else. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good morning and welcome to the street scape project and muni project. i certainly as the public work's director for the city and county here and i want to thank you for all coming out to celebrate this

very exciting project that will improve the lives of the many people who use this inner sunset corridor. the project which spans all the way from aguelo to 19th avenue will improve the quality of life and transit services of this diverse neighborhood, which serves families, students, merchants and tourists alike president the street scape improvement is a collaborative project with the ms works and the utility's commission. for the past two years, they've been working together to make crucial improvements to the inner sunset street scape and nearby transit services that not only make the area more vibrant and more accessible, safe and reliable. when you look around the

surrounding streets, you see the vibrant landscapes that add to the neighborhood's charm, improve seating, as you can see, visitor striving, new street trees. all of this creates a healthy environment and a great carbon footprint. what many do not see are the upgraded traffic signals, the repaved roads and all of the help to improve thed safety and transit service. there's many components to this project that has not been seen. we have improvements to the underground sewer line and improvements to our water lines, our firefightings were upgraded

or replaced, all to increase capacity and to minimize any destructions that will provide more reliable service to the community. also, as a part of this project, there's more than 3,000 feet of pipe that was installed for the department of technology for future fiber optic cables and this is a great partnership. as we do many projects on patrero we're installing pipe and we'll have the pipes electric in and, of course, less destruction to the neighbor while the projects happen. with all of that said, it brings me great joy to see the work that all of these agencies are doing together and how we come together to improve the quality of life of this diverse neighborhood in san francisco.

san francisco. i want to thank john thomas and our project manager, johnny farm, harlin kelly and his team from the puc and mr. maguire and, of course, our contractor, who was out here everyday making sure that we got this job done. and now, the person who helps to make all of these projects happen, the person who makes our neighborhoods better for everyone, the person looking out for the future of san francisco, without future delay, let me introduce our mayor, london breed. [cheers and applause] >> it's so good to be back. i remember when we first set on the path to do this project for this neighborhood, andrea, i just noticed you were over there and it's great to see you and martha and so many folks from the community. you all did the work because you wanted something better for this community. we have kids everywhere and these kids from stepping stone

preschool are joining us today. and you'll get your snacks in just a minute, so don't worry. [cheers and applause] >> we have kids, we have families, seniors, people who, basically, love this community and so many amazing restaurants, so many amazing places to shop. this is like really a jewel in san francisco and, in fact, when improve was supervisor, i came to this community a lot to hideout and relax. and it was great. what was so important was to make it a lot offer annua and dl with safety and public infrastructure improvements. one of the things that i spent time with some of the neighbors doing is standing on the corner of ninth and irving and many of you know the familiar sound of some of the onl old muni trains which still come through this

way, how loud and heavy they are. remember i said the new trains will be much quieter. did you just hear how much quieter the new trains are? a loa lot of the promises to ths community are finally happening and it was because of your patience. we know that it was very challenging to come in and the construction and the loss of parking and tearing up the streets and digging in and you all, through this whole challenge, you were very patient and we really appreciate that, because now we are here realizing just really a dream for community, an improvement to the sidewalks, an improvement to the infrastructure and an improvement to our water pressure system so that when there is a fire or emergency, the pressure -- i know this is not probably that interesting, but it makes all the difference when dealing with any emergency that water suppression and our equipment and the systems

actually work when we need it the most. the fiber optic cables, improvements to the sidewalks, all of the amazing things that will make this community not just safer but more boost and sobeautiful.i want to thank thet park neighbors, at the time of the leadership of andrea yaguin, that you pushed us to give some attention to this community and shine a light on the challenges that exist here is why we're here, as well as the inner sunset merchant's association. the merchants here who serve the community, this is really not just a place where so many neighbors enjoy and eat and go to the hardware stores and pick up glasses. people from ucfs spend a lot of time here during lunch and

people from the park spend a lot of time here and this community has come together as a force to make amazing projects like this happen. so i'm really excited. looking forward to doing even more, because i have not forgotten about the wires over on ninth and irving and what we need to do to underground those wires. i know that's important and we're talking about right down the street, the gateway on gaten lincoln and ninth and to really transform this community because it's a jewel in our community. thank you to the department of public works, to mta, all of the contractors, all of incredible workers who basically not only worked in this community but spent money at the restaurants and this was definitely a great

effort and took time and here we are, a celebration of just really an amazing project that is going to change the quality of life for the residents who live here. so enjoy it and next up, i want to take the opportunity to introduce your supervisor, valley brown, who as you remember was out here on a regular basis working with you all to move this project forward. she drove me a little crazy because she was running out of patience with the city bureaucracy and trying to get it done. and now she gets to enjoy the fruits of her labor. ladies and gentlemen, your supervisor, valley brown! [cheers and applause] >> you know what they say what doesn't kill us makes us stronger and that's how i feel about this project. i want to say i'm sorry to everyone. it was her fault. she started it and then i had to

come in and finish it, right? [ laughter ] >> yeah, i'm not going go over everything we've done because i know mohamed nurue gave you all of the sexy details. but what i see is this neighborhood coming together and saying, ok, this is painful and especially the merchants, but we know once it's finished, it will be amazing and $21 million later, yeah, it looks pretty amazing, i'd say. i want to thank people and i have to read this because i always forget one person and then i get in trouble after wars. afterwards. so thank you, mayor, breed for starting it, city administrator, naomi kelly and mohamed nurue from public works. i mean, this is something i have to say was -- he really jumped in and said, let's make this happen and let's make it as less painful as we can.

acting director for sfmta, tom mcguire and san francisco's puc. i would call everyone on this list and said if there was a pile of dirt and they couldn't park their car at 7:00 at night. so the responsiveness of their teams were amazing. i want to thank all of their teams because every week we had an issue, whether it was the veterinarian or people getting dirt in their driveway and couldn't park their car. park driveway, this is all things that they really stepped up.

i put 75k into budget so we could do a pilot programme called curb management. and this something i would think about because barbara, i don't know where barbara is from the neighborhood, she would tell me everyday when i walked by her house how we had people parking in her driveway or double-parking to run in and get the ubers and stuff to get the food from the merchants. we said, how can we solve these issues? they said, parking is so horrible here. i heard that, no -- [ laughter ]

with these parking, so really having to look at creatively looking at curb management, so we're in the process of right now of actually having a community engagement of this curb management and how do we make it easier for people to park and easier for businesses to have people be able to come in and get what they need and get out so they're not parked there for hours. how do we, you know, get the uber eats and all of the other deliveries, where they have a place to park and can get in and out so they're not parking in barbara's driveway? so this is actually happening now and once again, the inner sunset park neighbor and merchants are at the tables saying we'll work with you and this is the only way i like to work because i came as a

neighbor activist and i didn't like it when people did things in my naked an neighborhood andt when i walked out the door that it was done. so thank you to everyone for being here today. i'm really excited for all of the work that's done. it's amazing. and should i bring up naomi? naomi! so now i would like to introduce naomi kelly, a city administrator. this was her baby to manage, all of the different people to make sure it was done right. and so naomi. >> thank you. [cheers and applause] >> thank you, supervisor brown and mayor breed and director of public works. this project has more meaning to me because i live in the neighborhood. i spend so much time here on these corners, going to amazing fantasy with my kids, burn sf,

jamba juice, you name it, so i live through the construction and understand the merchants and the pain you went through. but boy, did this turn out beautiful! i've been to many scape improvements in different commercial corridor and i have to say these seats and planters are some of the best i've seen in all of san francisco. so you all did a great job on that. [cheers and applause] >> again, i want to thank mohamed nurue and john thomas is completing this project because it was done on time. public works delivers many key construction projects throughout the city and having it done on time so we're not disrupting the merchants for longer than we should is very important. you heard this specific project was $21.3 million and it's connect the to residents and

we're more resilient. as chair of the ten-year capital plan committee, we have done a lot to make sure that we have coordinating our projects. it was putting in our new sewer lines and water line and that's important for someone who lives in this neighborhood because i can tell you where every sinkhole was. i was drawing diagrams and handing it to the sf puc saying these are the most important parts to touch in the sunset. underground, we've put in more than 4,000 -- the mayor is right.

that was the large effort budget item at 7.$3 million. , along for the water and sewer line to appreciate upgraded protection for this community in case of a potential earthquake. also groun underground, we put n municipal fiber providing secure signals to this community. at the street level, pedestrian and muni riders will see improvements as you can see with the curb ramps and that was approximately $5.7 million. but not just here in the inner sunset aisles, but public works have resurfaced 644 blocks across the city this year and we work together as one city, connected, and i'm pleased to introduce tom maguire, the

interim director of transportation. [cheers and applause] >> it's great to be here and celebrate the puc, public works, city administrator and the elected officials who helped get the funds together and get the wills together to make this happen and the street scape is basically but when i look at it, i don't just see beautiful planters and trees but safety. i see muni riders getting on and off trains going by and we see them getting off on a nice, safe sidewalk. they're not getting off into traffic like they do elsewhere in the city and this is the experience we want. we know this is the lifeline of the sunset, one of the busiest corridors and the streets in this area are some of the streets that are high injury vision zero and we want to make sure transit riders are safe, not just on their journey on the

trains but when we get on and off on beautiful street scape. so thank you to the community for your patience as we have been working with our fell let's agenciefellowagencies to get thd thank you to everyone who fought for the funding and fought for the design to get this project done. thank you. >> now after listening to all of us, after i'm sure you're bored, i want to bring up andrea jabli to give her viewpoints of this project as a neighbor, thank you. >> to the people who live here and work here and the merchants who come here, we didn't just do this as a photo-op. we did it because there are two important reason for people in this neighborhood to have this happening and one is the muni,

the end juda will be faster. you'll get to work faster and home faster and anyone who does that everyday understands how important that is. it's also going to be safer for you. now you're not going to be hit by cars trying to squeeze in between the boarding ramps. most importantly, ninth avenue and irving is an intersection that is painful for people who walk around this neighborhood on a frequent basis. you're sometimes stopped at a light for up to two and a half minutes while waiting for trains to come and go and bikes, muni, all that stuff. now that the stops have been reconfigured so that the buses get through the light before they have to stop, that intersection will be so much more pleasant for all of us to experience. so that's why we're here and why we did it and everyone who has put up with the noise and all of that, give yourself a round of applause. [cheers and applause]

>> thank you, let's give the project is big hand. this is a great improvement. our mayor is challenging us to continue do more projects like this and public works and the partnership with all of the agencies will continue to deliver for you. so with that said, we will cut the ribbon and so, where is the ribbon-cutting team here? we have behind us. >> and would the folks like martha, barbara and other community members feel free to come up and cut this rib bin. ribbon. this is for your community and we want to make sure you're a part of it. are we ready? >> yes! >> we sure? 5-4-3 -- you're not even counting. are we ready? >> yes clam 5-4-3-2-1!

>> san francisco and oakland are challenging each other in a battle for the bay. >> two cities. >> one bay. >> san francisco versus oakland. are you ready to get in on the action? >> i'm london breed. >> and i am oakland mayor libby schaff. >> who will have the cleanest city? >> we will protect our bay by making our neighborhoods shine. >> join us on september 21st as a battle for the bay. >> which city has more volunteer

spirit? which city can clean more neighborhoods? the city with the most volunteers wins. sign-up to be a bay protector and a neighborhood cleaner. go to battle fo >> welcome to pricidia middle school. i am emma dunbar and i had the enormous privilege to be the principal in this community. thank you all for joining us. [ cheering and applause ]. >> i want to give a very warm welcome to my students, to our staff, to elected officials, board members, mayor appliappli and our trusted partners at sales force. i couldn't be happier to host you all on this yard just opened for our new school year after four years in the making. it is a prime example of what investment in our public schools

can look like. four years ago, mark benniof, along with the mayors and superintendents from oakland and san francisco, stood on this very same yard to celebrate the third year of the sales force grant. at that time, there was success to celebrate. wifi in every middle school, computers and ipads available to every school, the established of the principal's innovation fund. we may not have appreciated how much more celebrating there was to come. to date, we've now seen over $40 million invested in the students of san francisco unified school districts. [ cheering and applause ]. >> and $20 million invested in the students at oakland unified. [ cheering and applause ].

>> this has had incredible results in math, computer science, and college readiness throughout both of these great cities. what i want to share with you today is what this means for presidio and what i observed seeing these transformations. not just to our physical environments but to our students' lives. here is an example of what our community has seen since 2013. increased student access to and interest in coding and robotics. teachers and students collaborating in online environments in every classroom in our school. in addition to our beautiful new space, our community enjoys partnering directly with sales force volunteers who have supported our teachers throughout the school in creating welcoming environments for learning. we know that our students thrive when we can surround them with

the support of everyone in the community, from teachers to volunteers to corporate partners to parents. i'd now like to personally thank and introduce mark benniof co-c.e.o. and chairman of sales force who has championed this great, incredible, amazing work for our students. [ cheering and applause ] . >> thank you so much for coming today. it's a gorgeous day and always the hottest day when we do these announcements. i just want to say you have an amazing team up hear that i want to call out. we have principal dunbar. thank you for everything you're doing. [ cheering and applause ]. >> and we have two of our

fabulous mayors here in san francisco and oakland, mayor breed and mayor shaw. thank you. [ cheering and applause ]. >> and we have our amazing team here of our superintendents kyle and vincent, thank you for everything that you're doing. [ applause ]. >> we have anthony from the sales force foundation too. thank you, ebony. [ cheering and applause ]. >> doing work like this really does take a team. one member of our team is not up here and we're thinking a lot about him. that is ed lee. it was really mayor lee that had the vision that we felt so strongly about to work on the 12 middle schools. that was seven years ago and now we can see today here is this incredible manifestation of our middle schools getting rebooted and it's in his memory that we're doing this work. let's remember him and let's say

thank you as well to all of you for being here. thank you for your support of our kids. thank you to the kids also. so thank you guys for coming here. [ cheering and applause ]. >> one thing about doing this is the kids are always like, this is boring, when is it over? it's going to get worse before it gets better. [ laughter ]. >> i apologize. no, it's okay? you're interested in this? all right. all right. then let's do it. thank you, principal dunbar for welcoming us to this beautiful presidio middle school and to you and all the staff at presidio that make a difference for our kids. thanks to our great partners and all of our leaders and great principals here.

if you're a principal in san francisco or oakland, would you just stand up and be recognized. [ cheering and applause ]. >> you know, these principals who are on the frontlines every single day in these schools and with these kids doing this leadership work. they have our best hopes with them. as part of our program, as our principal innovation program, gets $100,000 a year over the last seven years to do what they think they need to do for their schools. i admire their creativity and desire to improve the education of each school, but i just want to thank them for their hard work and dedication to the schools. it's so powerful. and i also want to thank the

kids. thank you for all of your hard work too and everything you're doing to have a great education. because i'll tell you, the best ideas for our schools come from our kids. as we've been working with the schools, of course we have ideas and our visions and we remember when we were in school or when we were in middle school, but what it means to be in middle school today is different than what i was when i was in middle school. thank you to you guys for keeping us in touch with what's important and using your voices and also speaking your truth and saying what you really want for your school. it's the kids actually before you who have graduated and over there at george washington high school who said that they wanted a new playground, that that was very important to them. you can thank them because they used their voices and said that's what they wanted. that's why we're here very much today. keep in mind as you go forward that we want to hear from you, what you're doing.

we're all here because of you. we're all here because we believe in each and every one of you. we believe in your future and we believe that you are going to create an amazing future. we've had our chance. our chance is over. [ laughter ]. >> now it's your chance. so we're looking for you to be the leaders and to take us forward and hope fulfully. i'm here as your neighbor, not just a c.e.o. when it comes to our public schools, a lot of people say they want to help but they don't know how to. well, a few years ago ago, some of you heard this story before, i came over here, walked through the door, and i said to the principal, how can i help? what can i do? that's a message for each and every one of us. the principal is the local c.o. of that school. all we have to do is knock on that door and sa