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en . >> i have four good success stories via e.m.s. 6, but i'll read you the last two. we had a 46-year-old male with alcohol history who completed treatment and is now in a step down unit. in 2018, he had 105 sffd transports, and in the previous 12 months, he has had 88

transports. e.m.s. 6 shepherded this person through treatment and he has not used alcohol since june of this year. also, a 66-year-old with chronic medical condition showed a rapid decline over the last three years as showed in this ambulance indication. e.m.s. 6 placed him in the navigation center and assisted him with housing assessment and application and helped get his documentation ready. he is now housed and reconnected with his children. his last ambulance transport was over five weeks ago. down below, you'll see the referrals made was 84, and the ambulances called were 109.

we had 100%, 7 out of 7 mental services. then on to the division of fire prevention investigation data by fire marshal daniel dicosio, we have permit application fees collected for september is 90,685. and on page 22, fire complaints, the total number of complaints closed in september was 275. page 24, the community outreach presentations and education, we've had 26 throughout the city reaching over 5,413

community members. on page 24, the fire section update, the total fees collected was 1,383,106. on 31, bureau of fire investigation update, the total number of open and active reports for september is 67. during the month of september, b.f.i. responded to 27 incidents, and there was ten structure fires, ten vehicle fires, seven outside trash fires. there was four arrests made in september by the b.f.i. one for an outside fire, one for a vehicle fire, and one at an outside fire at an a.t.m., and the fourth was for a

structural fire. the airport division, a.d.c., they're continuing their training meetings. they prepared for their big annual s.f.o. exercise drill that was completed this month. i'll have more on that on this next month's report. 36, you see their run totals. total of 513 runs with 244 bike medic runs. that's been a continued success. and we're off to the department of homeland security. a.d.c. cochran's been working hard this work. we did a disaster planning with the transamerica building. he's been working with the heat outages and advisory calls.

we've been working with our fireboat disaster planning. be happy to say that our mobile command should be returned next week from its upgrades. we continue to constantly update our disaster response manual. as you know, this is a living document, and we're getting a lot of help now with our new disaster committee. they're very motivated, and they're helping us a lot along with that. and we continue to get more sign ups from every rank with our newly installed incident management team. fleet was working tirelessly for the month of september to pull this off, and i'll have more this month with the completion of everything that we did. also worked for a large-scale drill that took place this week on disaster relief debris.

that went off well. and right now, we're -- he is submitting additional grants from uwazi. i've included the monthly response for medical calls and the total number of dispatches, the summary is 13,378 dispatches. and what you've all been waiting for, the drone update. so we've received confirmation on october 4 from the city attorney's office, coit, and o.c.a. that the sffd can move forward with the purchase of the drone. i'm going to have a little presentation by mark corso to continue. right now, it's a financial issue.

>> good morning. mark corso, finance and planning. yeah, so after chief mentioned, after quite a few meetings and back and forth, we finally received approval after collaboration with the city attorney's office, office of contract administration and coit to move forward with our drone program. we have all the department of home lan security approvals and we have all the adoptions by the commission to move forward. so we're working with our vendor -- a few vendors on quotes and specs, and we hope to have everything over to city importants by the end of the week to move forward on procurement. >> yeah. >> that would cheer you up, and that concludes my operation report for september. >> president nakajo: thank you very much. we'll ask for public comment before the commissioners give their questions and comments. any member of the public wish

to give public comment at this point? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners? commissioner covington. >> commissioner covington: thank you for your report, chief wyrsch. the one greater alarm that took place in the bayview earlier, one of my friends happens to live in one of those three houses, and she says that everyone with the department was just stellar, just absolutely wonderful, and very -- very calming, informative, warm, you know, just everything. she made me even more proud of the department because i couldn't have been there, you know, of course, to help her in any significant way, but she's

very, very grateful for the members of the department and the way they handled the situation and their -- their concern for each person who was impacted by that fire, so i wanted to pass that on. >> thank you. appreciate that. >> commissioner covington: you're welcome. let's see...and page 13, the two on page 13, the examples that you gave of how e.m.s. 6 has really helped get people's lives back on track, those are really, really wonderful stories. i think somehow we have to get the word out about what a wonderful program this is. so that our fellow citizens know that there is an effort afoot and it is getting results, people are being helped in a significant way.

there are a couple of people that i see -- i live in hayes valley. there are a couple of people i see frequently, and i think it's like any -- anything that's seriously -- that has seriously gone awry in a person's life. it takes quite a while to get back on track, and it takes the whole community to help people to get back on track, so this is one of the ways that that happens, and i'm happy to see that you have highlighted this in your report. and i appreciate the numbers of the pages. >> the pages. >> commissioner covington: i think that's so 21st century, though. >> small changes every month. i get a little better every month, yeah.

>> commissioner covington: it's very helpful. the grant for 2019, is mr. corso going to talk more about that -- or no, that's on page -- i think it's on page 44. >> the grants under homeland security? >> commissioner covington: yes. >> yeah. we're currently working on them now. i think we just got an e-mail that they're extending it because of the power shutdown. >> good morning mr. president, commissioners, chief nicholson. mike cartwright, director of home lan security. by the 11 -- homeland security. >> we're goithose got extended of the shutoffs, and we're going to meet today.

>> commissioner covington: thank you. great. and i wonder, the photograph that accompanied the text, was that photograph taken by a member of the department, the fireboat in full bloom and everything, still on page 40? >> oh, that, probably our p.i.o. >> commissioner covington: oh, it's a fantastic photo. i think we need to make as much use of that as possible. >> we had a nice display behind the mayor when they did a press -- she did a press conference the other day. very dramatic. >> commissioner covington: all right. thank you very much for your report. >> president nakajo: thank you, commissioner covington. commissioner veronese. >> commissioner veronese: chief, that picture of you is priceless. i'm not going to ask who you were on the phone with. >> with the chief.

>> commissioner veronese: okay. that's a great picture to be used at another moment. getting to this narcan, july to september 2019, thank you, thank you. this is great information, and it shows that from july of 2018 to september, we've more than doubled in narcan administration, and it appears to be some sort of a spike in april -- straike that. it goes in april from may to 181, a huge spike. i don't know what's going on on the streets, but clearly, something happened at the end of may that could cause that to -- would cause that to spike, and i'm not sure if the department of health has this information but if they don't, we should probably give it to them because it paints a picture of what's going on in the streets, and it would be great to know what the strategy

is because these numbers have gone up. it's gone up to 214 from then. is this something that we see once this strain -- is it fentanyl or opioid strain stops, it continues to go up as we've continued to see over the last year? >> unfortunately, it's fentanyl that we've seen increase greatly. because it's so cheap and it's getting over here apparently by mail, but we're looking into it, and i believe that's the culprit. >> commissioner veronese: so it may be appropriate to get the -- to develop -- i'm sure there's some strategy being developed around this but it would be great to know especially since this is such a big issue in san francisco and it's affecting our membership and our budget.

it would be great to see what the strategy is, whether it comes from the department or the department of health as to know how we're going to bring these numbers down. on the next page, if you could explain this start to me that appears that somebody bled all over it because it's allred. what is this next chart? >> it's our ambulance levels by day, and it's a little difficult to explain. sandra tong may have to come up here, a.d.c. tong, but it's basically at 2% or lower for that day. so on that column, it's the day of the month, and then, the minutes across the top and the percentage that goes from level zero to less than -- more than seven on either direction. >> commissioner veronese: so this is -- i'm assuming this is

last month, september. >> yes. >> commissioner veronese: could you -- make chief tong could do this for us. maybe they could walk us through one of these rows to give us a sense of what this means -- perhaps the last day of the month, just by mway of example, so that the commission understands what that means. >> good morning, president nakajo, chief nicholson, sandy tong, department of e. p.s. if you're looking at last column -- second to last row is 30 of september. what we're doing hooer is identifying number -- what we're doing here is identifying the number we were at level zero, so that means the number of ambulances available at that particular point in time during

the 24-hour period. >> commissioner veronese: so what is the column that has a less than seven, is that cumulative of the columns where it's zero, one, two? >> no. it would just be in that moment of time, the number of minutes where we had seven or less. so it would probably be four or five -- three, four, five, six. >> commissioner veronese: so 490 minutes, that's eight hours. are you saying that on september 30, we were at level zero. >> no. we had seven -- less than seven. six, five, four, three, two, one. >> commissioner veronese: less than seven what? >> ambulances available. >> commissioner veronese: we had less than seven ambulances

available for 490 minutes. >> right. >> commissioner veronese: i get it. that's a lot less alarming than the direction i was going. >> yeah. >> commissioner veronese: so for -- okay. so for 99 minutes on september 30, we had zero ambulances available. >> right. >> commissioner veronese: that's an hour and a half. >> yes. >> commissioner veronese: that's -- so for an hour and a half on september 30, is that throughout the day -- >> for a 24-hour period. >> commissioner veronese: for a 24-hour period. so that could be five minutes at 2:00, 20 minutes at 4:00, those are those numbers added up for that 24-hour period. >> yes. >> commissioner veronese: so it was not like there was 99 minutes in time where we had zero ambulances available? >> yes. >> commissioner veronese: okay. that's helpful. and then, explain to me what the percentage is on the far right. how did -- how does that work out?

>> that would just be the percentages based on the number of minutes per day, the percentage of time in the court of a 24-hour -- course of a 24-hour period where we were at level zero or one or two. >> commissioner veronese: okay. so on september 30, 6.9% of that 24-hour period, we had no ambulances available. >> correct. >> if i may? >> commissioner veronese: sure, chief. >> so this is one of those reports that we've got a lot of pieces and i'd love to chat with you offline to give you the full picture? >> commissioner veronese: no. i understand this chart is probably as a result of something i asked for, and a lot of times when you start collecting information, it's not entirely accurate because you're pulling in from different places, and you have to work on those statistics, so

sure, chief, let's get together and talk about that because i know that staffing is an important issue, and i'd like to learn more about it and really make sure that we get these numbers down accurately so we can use these numbers to report to people that need to know so that we can then begin a strategy to get these numbers down to -- so that there's no red on this piece of paper, assuming that they're fully accurate. okay. great. thanks, chief. we'll revisit this. chief, in regards to the drones, i wasn't going to let you get away with that. when -- and it is acknowledged that you took all the glory away from being able to announce that this is actually done, you know -- chief, i acknowledge that week after week, he gets up here and takes the brunt of this, and you get

up and say it's done, but thank you for that. we all know that. >> we'll share the glory. >> commissioner veronese: there you go. share the glory. there you go. the next question is when, so what are the next -- what are the things that we're working on to make sure that there's no additional barriers to making sure we're getting these things deployed. >> good morning. mike cochran, department of security, again. we are moving forward. the o.c.a. process, i'd have to have mark corso so talk about that if he can because he really helped with the city attorney and coit meetings. so i'm not sure if it's 30 or 60 days to get it purchased. next step is certificate of purchase that's tied to the drone. then our pilots and we should be good to go. >> commissioner veronese: so are there things we can be doing in the meantime, like training pilots or taking courses, so once we're ready to go, there's not, like, a

ramp-up in six months so we're ready to go? >> yeah. that process should be starting. internally, we're going to start the pilot thing. the main thing was to try to get the drone and get through all these hurdles. i knew it was going to be scrutinized so i wanted to make sure that we did as much as we could to make it correct. >> commissioner veronese: is the funding there? >> funding -- so there's a grant for the drone, so that money's there. i'm sure it's down to the penny. you'd have to ask mark corso for the exact numbers. >> commissioner veronese: how many drones are we deploying? because i think we saw a bird took out one. >> that's correct. that was an aggressive seagull

that took that one out. we're getting one with lights and infrared. this would be the ultimate fire service drone at this point in time, so that's what we put in for and are currently trying to get. >> commissioner veronese: just one of them? >> just one for now. >> commissioner veronese: yeah, i'm sure that bird learned that lesson the hard way. okay. one drone, you think between 30 and 60 days, and that's the competitive bidding process you think? >> i'd speak out of turn, mark, on that. how does that o.c.a. work, exactly? i'm not sure. >> good morning again. mark corso. yes. it's through the procurement process. it needs to go out to bid, but we did speak with the bidding project manager on that and told him that this needs to be a priority, that we're bidding

on this next week. >> commissioner veronese: that money that's out there, could we use that for something else or is it money specifically designated -- >> it's specifically designated for something else. one is drones, and one is marine rescue tools and equipment. >> commissioner veronese: okay. so that's great. it'll be deployed by the end of the year. it'll be, like, a new year's gift or a christmas gift. okay. thank you, chief cochran. i wasn't going to let chief wyrsch take all the glory. >> understood. >> commissioner veronese: it looks like the numbers are steady at about 39%, but it's down to 33 in october. that's about a 10% drop -- more

than 10% drop, which is great. can you explain to me what pages 14 and 15 are? it looks like a spreadsheet of some kind. >> those are the x.m. pages, so it's my understanding these are the pages when we might be getting to level zero, but it might be only less than a minute, and when the page goes out to we're at level zero, then another ambulance will go back in service or hurry up and go back and service. so there's more x.m. pages than actual level zero times because if there's no calls on the board, we're not missing any calls, but there's a level zero. is that the best way to

describe it? >> we can -- we can talk about all this stuff, and i'll, yeah, square you away. >> commissioner veronese: i didn't realize this was part of the level zero conversation. >> okay. >> commissioner veronese: i didn't understand that because that's above my pay grade, but i understand that's the level zero. we'll talk about that. and then -- that's it. good luck with the fleet week. i know this is a busy week for you, and the fire division. good luck, and prayers for you all that things turn out as good as they have in the past. >> president nakajo: thank you, commissioner veronese. commissioner hardeman. >> commissioner hardeman: yes. i got all of my questions asked by commissioner alioto

veronese. the one comment about last year, the narcan, i was out with the crews since the last meeting and talked to other people from other states, staple problem. we're not alone there. interesting there, the governor newsom signed this legislation basically dealing with mental health. and it's interesting how all of us like to blame a governor who was in office 45 years ago or eliminating mental health. it's 45 years later, we've been sitting on our hands for a long time, so it's nice to see something happening and not blaming somebody for something that they did something 45 years ago. i did notice something in new york, the street people, wow. compared to the last time i was there, which was, like, five years ago, was night and day. they were everywhere.

not so much as panhandling, but as sleeping on the side of the streets. very discouraging, so they have the same problem as we have. on your report with the two alarm, the only two alarm of the month, which is always good to year. very remarkable, 37 minutes, the fire was put out from the time, i guess, you arrived. and then three buildings, under $1 million worth of damage, but 57 minutes, it was under control. i think that's pretty fast. it was quite good -- obviously, it was quite a fire to have that kind of damage.

and chie and let's see...the drones, yeah, the question -- i think the state-of-the-art was only 1700. was it three years ago that we had the demonstration that i got to be involved with? so is there a number -- i didn't hear a number on -- with the latest technology -- on what the latest technology is? has that gone up a little bit? >> the price has gone up since we -- >> commissioner hardeman: i'm sure they're a lot better. >> yeah. >> commissioner hardeman: a lot safer, more reliable, better in fighting wind, everything. >> correct. >> commissioner hardeman: i'm all ready to vote for a grant to get a couple more, so any time that comes up, i will be voting in favor. i think that's one of the most

important things. that was it. good report, as usual, chief wyrsch. >> thank you very much, commissioner. >> president nakajo: thank you very much. commissioner cleaveland, please. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you very much, chief wyrsch, for your report. couple of quick questions. do you track the type of overdosing that people are having on the streets? we have this huge uptick of narcan distribution. what percentage are fentanyl based and what percentage are heroin based and do you track the reason for the overdose or the cause? >> so if i may interject, when we give someone narcan, and it reverses the overdose, we know it's an opioid, okay? we don't necessarily know if it's fentanyl or heroin or what it is. so we don't run a test to figure that out typically, so that may be done at the hospital. but what we can say sort of

anecdotally. but what we can say is the use of narcan by our members has gone up, and i know the health department has put a lot of narcan on the streets in the hands of folks who are addicts. and with the increase in opioid overdoses and deaths, there's more and more fentanyl out there. so i just don't know how much it is percentage wise, but -- but yeah, it's -- it's an issue, and it's much more -- it's much stronger -- yeah, and it's much stronger than heroin typically, so we had a big -- we had a big issue last night. actually, a call with over five people at the jail. >> commissioner cleaveland: that's really said. you said by the mail, people are receiving fentanyl by mail. >> they're able to track a package, but while they're tracking a package and getting

search warrants, ten more are coming in in small doses. it's very cheap, my understanding. we're trying to get information out to the departments for training on fentanyl. >> commissioner cleaveland: is it powder or tablets? >> it can be a powder, tablet, airborne. >> it can be a liquid, and so that's what also makes it dangerous. if it's a powder, and somebody gets it on them, that can be absorbed. if it's a liquid, same thing. inhale it, so it's really a dangerous thing, so we had our five inmates, prisoners, as county jail yesterday, 850 bryant, and then several of the deputies also began showing symptoms, so we had our hazmat team in there, clearing it all out. so yeah, it's a big deal.

>> commissioner cleaveland: almost like biological war fare. >> yeah. and it hit the east coast and other places before it hit us. >> commissioner cleaveland: you mentioned -- just correct me if i am wrong -- that 58,000 people account -- 58 people accounted for 1,046 calls. >> i'm sorry. are you looking at the end, the activity summary report? >> commissioner cleaveland: right. >> yes. >> commissioner cleaveland: we still have a few people making a lot of calls to our department on a regular basis. >> yeah. >> commissioner cleaveland: unbelievable. i want to congratulate you on

the drone and our and the to buy some. how many drones do you think we need for the department to save our citizens along the cliffs from fires and everything else? >> well, i'm interested to see the range and how quickly they can be deployed, how well we can be trained in them. they're an expensive piece of equipment. i know all long, we're covered by water, cliffs, and we'll see how they work at fires. i'm really interested to see how they work and how the program takes off. how many total? i have to wait to see -- >> commissioner cleaveland: a half dozen? >> i don't know. >> commissioner cleaveland: they have to be fixed and maintained. >> commissioner cleaveland: program to serve. >> yeah. >> commissioner cleaveland: so half a dozen? >> sure. >> commissioner cleaveland: and your last question, grant writer. where's our grant writer?

where is our grant writer? >> good morning again. >> commissioner cleaveland: good morning, mark. >> we had an internal deadline of 9-30 for our last round of applications where we did some outreach to grant or specific related job boards. i just received the last match of applicants from our h.r. division. there were, i believe, 18 or 19 qualified applicants in that batch, and that goes along with candidates who had previously applied, so we're currently reviewing those and hope to setup interviews over the next few weeks after selecting a number of candidates for interview. >> commissioner cleaveland: is there any possibility the commission or some of the commissioners can be involved in the review of these candidates? >> we're in discussions for that. i think that's definitely a possibility. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you. that's all my questions. thank you, chief. thank you, mr. president. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, commissioner.

thank you very much, chief wyrsch, for your comprehensive report. appreciate it very much. >> thank you. >> president nakajo: madam secretary. >> item 6, resolution 201 the-03, resolution recommending that the board of supervisors authorize the san francisco fire department to accept and expend fiscal year 2019 port security grant program funding in the amount of $341,625 from the federal emergency management agency for the purchase of marine equipment. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, madam secretary. commissioners, we have items six, seven, eight, nine on this with director corso. vice president, did you have a comment? >> commissioner covington: no, i just -- i was going to ask if you were going to call them altogether?

>> president nakajo: i believe we have to have a vote and approval on each item separately, director corso, or can they be -- they're different descriptions. >> they are different. i cannot speak to whether we can -- >> commissioner covington: we can do them separately. >> president nakajo: all right. thank you very much. chief corso. >> thank you very much. mark corso. the first, resolution three is an accept and expend request. the department requested and received a grant for the port security program fore the amount of $341,645 for port-based resources based on the port. dive and surf rescue equipment,

refurbishment of one of our fireboats. the department is respectfully requesting approval to move forward to the full board for approval of the grant and i'm happy to answer any questions. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, director corso. on this, i'm going to ask for public comment on item six, resolution 2019-013. any member of the public wish to give public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners? >> commissioner covington: i would like to move this item. >> commissioner cleaveland: second. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, commissioner covington, for that motion. commissioner cleaveland has seconded the motion. commissioner veronese, do you

have any questions? >> commissioner veronese: yes, i have a couple questions from mr. corso. mr. corso, how did you get this grant? how did this come about? >> so this is a grant through fema that comes up every year, and we submitted our application. this is how we funded our new fireboat in the past, our new rescue fire and dive boat. this is an annual grant that the department regularly applies for. >> commissioner veronese: okay. so this is something that we know comes up every year and the department applies for it. >> correct. >> commissioner veronese: i'm wondering if we have a grant writer, if ten of these come up. do you think we'll have a grant writer by the end of the year

at least. >> by the end of the year, that's our goal. >> commissioner veronese: and so i know that there are marine drones that exist, as well. are we looking at those capablities? >> at this point, no. i think to chief wyrsch's point, we want to nail down our program with this pilot and see all the impacts on training and deployment before we expand but that's something that'll definitely be on our radar. >> commissioner veronese: okay. i would suggest to chief cochran, he's probably looked at this, but there are drones that just go in the water that would save a firefighter from having to jump in the water, and so i would suggest that as part of a marine grant in the future, that we also look at those. these are drones that have been specifically developed to save lives in the water that would prevent a firefighter from having to jump in the water. okay. thank you so much.

>> president nakajo: thank you very much, commissioner veronese. there's a question on the motion. i'll call for the question. all in favor say aye? all opposed? none. thank you. madam secretary. >> clerk: item 7, residence accusation 2019-04. resolution 2019-04, recommending the board of supervisors authorize the san francisco fire department to accept and expand fiscal year 2018 stance to firefighters grant program funding in the amount of $612,129.09 from the federal management management agency for the purchase of rescue tools and equipment for the department. >> president nakajo: i'll ask for -- excuse me, please, director corso. >> thank you. good morning again. mark corso, and this is another grant before the commission. as commissioner veronese

mentioned, there are a number of regular grant programs mainly through fema that the department applies for, and this was one for which we applied and were approved for a request. this is the fiscal 18 firefighters grant requested by fema for the purchase of new and enhanced hand tools and electrical tools. ventilation fans for members, as well as conversion of a number of tools powered by generators to battery powered that reduce emissions. so the goal of this grant program -- one of the goals of the grant program itself is health and safety of members. there's a match of $61,000 required by the department, which we will absorb in our budget, and i'm happy to answer any questions on this particular grant. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, director corso. at this time, i'll call for public comment on this item, number seven, resolution 2019-04.

seeing none from the public, public comment is closed. commissioners? >> commissioner covington: i'd like to move this item. >> commissioner cleaveland: second. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, vice president covington, for the motion. commissioner cleaveland has seconded that motion. any questions or discussion? call for the question. all in favor, say aye. thank you very much. madam secretary? >> clerk: item 8, resolution 2019-05. discussion and possible action regarding proposed resolution 2019-05 recommending that the board of supervisors authorize the san francisco fire department to accept and expend a $1 million allocation from the california department of emergency services for the purchase of one hose tender as part of the department's budget tax. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, madam secretary. director corso. >> thank you very much.

as you may recall in subsequent conversations, the department has been allocated in the current fiscal year the purchase of five hose tenders. the actual technical allocation for that was four were allocated through the city process through the city's general fund budget and one was allocated as a grant, technically, from the state of california for $1 million to purchase one, so in total, in combination, there's allocation for five. this is the technical approval of that award from the state that's through the state's annual budget and is going to be administered by cal -- office of emergency services of the state, so we're working with them on the kind of transaction of that funding. i wanted to thank the -- obviously, the commission, the mayor's office, and the board for their support of this project and the communications with the state and i'd be happy to answer any questions related to this. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, director corso.

at this point, i will have for public comment on this item eight, resolution 2019-05. seeing no members of the public that would like to give public comment, public comment is closed. >> commissioner covington: i'll make a motion to accept this. >> commissioner cleaveland: second. >> president nakajo: thank you for the motion, commissioner covington, and for the second, commissioner cleaveland. i'll call the question. all in favor, say aye. thank you. madam secretary. >> clerk: item 9, resolution 2019-06, resolution 2019-06, recommending the board of supervisors authorize the san francisco fire department to donate a retired ambulance to the city college of san francisco.

>> president nakajo: thank you. director corso. >> obviously, we have a long relationship with city college. we have worked with them extensively in the past and we have extended that with our current m.o.u. for firefighting academy so we're looking forward to in the future to expand that even further to offer additional trainings for members and work with them closely on that. we have previously donated equipment such as an obsolete fire engine to their academy for training their students, and so this vehicle here is a retired ambulance that's no longer of use to the department even in a relief capacity. so we would like to move forward to request to donate this fees -- piece of equipment to city college for educational purposes. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, director corso. at this point, i'll ask for public comment on this item, item nine, residence dugs 2019-06. seeing no one to do public

comment, public comment is closed. commissioners? >> commissioner covington: i would like to move this item and i have a question for director corso. >> commissioner hardeman: second. >> president nakajo: okay. there's a motion by commissioner covington and a second by commissioner hardeman. commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: director corso, does this make two or have we donated more than to obsolete apparatus to? >> so in my memory, we have donated one fire engine and one ambulance, so this would be the second ambulance. >> commissioner covington: thank you. >> president nakajo: call for the question, commissioner involving c covington. call for the question, commissioners. all in favor, say aye. thank you, director corso.

madam secretary? >> clerk: item 10, commission report. >> president nakajo: thank you. commissioner hardeman? >> commissioner hardeman: last month, i was back east, and i went to see the 911 museum. it was very informative, the whole area, how it's been rebuilt. on a lighter note, i was in the bay of fundy, which has the highest and lowest tide, and i felt right at home because it also has the second foggiest place in the world, so it felt good to get away. so any way, that's all i had to say about my time. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, commissioner hardeman. the only information, commissioners is we do have the retirement set for monday, the

18 in terms of your calendar. at this particular point, i'll call for public comment on commissioners report. seeing no public comment, public comment is closed. madam secretary. >> clerk: item number 11, agenda for next and future fire commission meetings. discussion regarding agenda for the next and future regular meetings. >> president nakajo: commissioners, at this particular point, do we have any items? we have october the 23 coming up, one meeting in november, one meeting in december. as a point of information, we do have closed session after this regular session. we do need to vacate this chamber at 12:15 so at some point, if it's convenient or if it works out, we may have to have a closed session on the 23rd to finish off whatever business is at hand today. madam secretary. >> clerk: item number 12,

public comment on item 13 on all matters on 13-b below, including items on 13-b to be held in closed session. >> president nakajo: thank you, madam secretary. i'll hold public comment on item 13-b below. seeing no public comment, public comment is closed. madam secretary. >> clerk: item 15 -- item 13, possible closed session regarding personnel matters, vote on whether to conduct items 13-b in closed session. >> president nakajo: i need a motion for us to return to retreat into closed session.

commissioners? >> commissioner cleaveland: i move we go into closed session. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, commissioner cleaveland. >> commissioner hardeman: second. >> president nakajo: thank you very much. in terms of this item of closed session, the department evaluation view of our department physician, we will continue this item to the next commission meeting. i believe it's october 23, and we will agendaize the item in the closed session for the 23 and continue it. having said that, this meeting now is adjourned. thank you very much. [gavel]

. >> good morning, everyone. this is october 9, 2019, regular meeting of the budget and finance committee. our clerk is ms. linda wong. i would like to thank those from s.f. gov tv for broadcasting. can we excuse supervisor