that would allow this board of supervisors to review the regulations and reject them for modify them by ordinance within a time frame of 60 days from when the director delivers those. and this is actually a template of what i might do in the ordinance. i want to put that on the record. is that your understanding, charles? >> yes, i've seen the proposed amendment and staff is comfortable with the language. >> supervisor peskin: good. the other question i had, was not just on the commercial side, but the residential side. we're developing and in some cases have developed very large residential complexes that have garages over 100 -- i can think of at least one in my district and there is parkmore and one in supervisor yee's district. is there any movement afoot to

expand to residential as well? >> the e.v. readiness would cover some of those properties that you mentioned that are in the planning or entitlement or yet to be built phase. so when they're built, they will be e.v. ready. that will take care of all new buildings going forward. the existing multifamily unit dwellings, that's still a challenge. we started with the e.v. readiness ordinance. we're now working on this initiative for private sector garages. we've done the same for our municipal garages. so that is a bit of the next frontier. it's something we've been looking at, but it's challenging from a infrastructure and cost perspective, but it's still something we're working on. because the need for charging as we transition the entire fleet is going to continue to grow. we're on step 2 or 3 here and there is a few more after that. >> supervisor peskin: i look forward to having those conversations with you and your office going forward.

any questions, supervisor safai? >> supervisor safai: yes, thank you. first of all, i would like to be added as a cosponsor. i think this is an important piece of legislation. i know that we -- i don't know if you said this -- a letter from the building owners and managers appreciating the hard work that was done in support of this piece of legislation. i think it's always great when the affected stakeholders have had the opportunity to weigh in and be part of the process. even if they don't -- and then in the end come to the conclusion that they are suppor supportive of the legislation as drafted. i just wanted to say that for the record. i know chair peskin and supervisor haney got that letter today. that's good. thank you to the department of environment stakeholders and others that were part of that conversation along with the mayor and supervisor peskin and mandelman. the other question i had, the question i had is, in terms of

the pricing. that's one of the things that wasn't discussed today, that encourages or discourages people from using the stations outside of their homes, right? because some people have solar-powered at their house, or access to different rates based on what has been negotiated as part of a larger package. but has there been thought or conversation put into the pricing to encourage people to utilize these charging stations and parking garages? >> sure. so i believe both -- >> the prices can vary. i reason i know this, i have an electric car. >> right. so for electricity rates, i'll start there. there a couple of costs that go into charging your electric car. for rates, i believe pg&e and

clean power sf have demand response rates to take advantage. >> you're couraged to -- when we drafted the ordinance, we wanted to make sure it wasn't one provider, but two providers, e.v. station charging providers. so not only is the parking facility able to compete in the private sector, but also they can make sure that what is installed is going to be cost effective for the customers that are coming in to use the parking facility. i don't know how much the rates for electricity differ between like e.v. go or charge point. do -- they do have different rates. >> they do. so my question would be, if the city has gotten into the business of delivering energy -- i know they're not a vendor, but

has there been conversation about the city having ownership over some of the stations since they have their own rates and structures and that might be a way to keep the cost down and encourage people to utilize the stations. >> i would mostly defer to my colleagues on that issue, but i do have history and experience. i think through 2013, maybe 2015, charging at city-owned garages was free. it was a cost effective way to get things going. i think that has lapsed. but especially with some of the developments that may happen on grid ownership here in the city. that might open up unique opportunities for not only city-owned grid, but city-owned charging stations and rates for the charging stations. but i'm getting a little farther into the territory -- >> i get it. and again, i'm adding my name. i think this is a good piece of legislation, but sometimes we create policies and then we fall

back less on implementation. and if people are not finding that this is cost effective, then only people that can afford that additional cost will take advantage of it on that level. and so i just -- i would like to see more thought put into actually the cost of utilizing it. because we can expand these to as many garages as possible, but if only people with the extra disposable income that can use it. and they will sit there empty or not utilized. >> that makes sense, supervisor, i'm going to take note of that, on the cost for charging. one of the things, when we think about making sure everyone has access. one of the things in the e.v. road map is the ability to educate and make aware to everyone, even those who don't think they have means, there are rebates and incentives by state

agencies and entities for low-income residents, that can significantly reduce the cost of purchase. it's not exactly the charging up paradigm, but we're looking at reducing the cost of purchasing. >> supervisor safai: the other thing i would say as a person with one of these cars and drives it to the stations. they're not always very user friendly. if you're not a member, you have to sit there and call a 1-800 number and you're looking for, this is 327 at this address. they're like, i can't find it. i don't know how to turn it on. so if you're trying to go into the shopping center and you're sitting there an additional 20 minutes. why do i want to spend 20 minutes trying to get into the charging station when i'll just drive it upstairs? so it's not necessarily user friendly. i appreciate that you're trying

to get two vendors, but i think the conversation in terms of the contract when you do provide it in a city-owned lot and you're signing those contracts, it should also be about usability. >> i agree. >> supervisor safai: we should make it more user friendly. easy if you could just run your credit card, boom, it's done fast. but sit there and make a phone call and search for the number, it's not really user friendly. i get it. it's new technology. just beginning. the last few years there has been more of explosion and availability of electric cars, but i don't want to see us pat ourselves on the back because we have 5,000 charging stations but no one is using them. >> the scenario you just described is what i experienced when i became a new e.v. owner and i went to charge up. >> 20-minute long conversation. >> there were several phone conversations. i was in the rush, panicked. i had no electricity in my new e.v.

that's one of the things we're trying to address in the e.v. road map, education and awareness. i think you're exactly right. i know that from personal experience. >> supervisor safai: one last thing. the only one that i know of in -- again this is about garages -- but the only street-charging spot i know of is next the sfpuc. is that discussed in this legislation? thought of? because another way also to expand peoples' opportunity is not just in garages, but you can add parking spots to the conversation. >> sure, so it's not discussed in the legislation. i know the sfmta is conducting a curbside use assessment and that is going to be due later this year. but that is their jurisdiction. so i defer to them on their study and what they're looking at for charging on the curb and what else they want to do for

the curb and they're going to report back later after that assessment is done on that topic. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. i see a number of members of the public. and commissioner here. we will open up for public comment. please come up. >> i believe it is good policy. one key thing i want to hammer home is question of equity, which supervisor safai talked on all three points. equity in terms of cost, in terms of usage and finally, geography, because the map is beneficial to the northeast section of san francisco. hopefully, we'll be able to build out e.v. infrastructure to support the west side, meaning the richmond district and sunset

or low density. and the cars have created a car-driven culture, so hopefully curbside charging can address this. for bright line itself, we've worked in bayview hunters, so seeing the lack of charging infrastructure there is disheartening in us to try to promote electric vehicles. hopefully, we can make it accessible for all. >> supervisor peskin: any other members of the public? seeing none, we'll close public comment. and colleagues, we have the aforementioned amendment before us which i've introduced and would make a motion to include. can we do that without objection? so that objection we will take that amendment. and send the item as amended with recommendation to the full board of supervisors. and that concludes our meeting.

we are adjourned.

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>> this is the october 15, 20199 item number one call to order. (roll call). we have a quorum. >> good morning, everyone. i would like to welcome everyone, especially those that are up this morning and watching remotely. good morning. thank you again for being with us, and also to my colleagues in the