not remember specific timeline. >> deputy city attorney, cleveland knowles, through the clear. scooter applicants who wish to appeal need to do so by october 22nd. and then there's a hearing process where the hearing officer will set timelines for briefing. >> did the other scooter companies -- and i didn't see the rfp did you require them to offer helmets? >> we required plans for how they would encourage and distribute helmets. hehelmets are not required but law. >> they changed my law to effective lobbying in sack sacramento. do you see there's room to improve their process within the appeal's process? >> maybe i'll take that. i don't want to say anything

that might biased the neutral hearing office *r officers. >> are there ways people can amealcan ameliorate the process. >> it's based on the hearing officer determining whether the director of transportation based his decisions on substantial evidence. >> what are some of the issues lacking in information? not scum's skip's but in general. they have to have what? >> substantial evidence wouldn't determine previous actions determined based on the straight document. >> the application kwrufl, itself,

i did pull up the slide again and our so application had eight primary categories listed here in the bullets. the safety and device standards the pricing the operation's plans to make sure scooters are available and distributed properly. and recharging maintenance and hiring and layer and experiencing qualifications and each had multiple subcategories defined in the application. so we had a total of 62 criteria across the eight categories rated. >> for a pass you need what 38? >> 70 something, but i have a question for you. so when -- >> they chose 70 for what is. >> high 70s.

>> so the question is, for people going through the appeal's process, how long -- is there a stay door they stop -- had to stop as of today doing their business? how does that work? even for the customers right? even their customers all of a sudden yesterday had a permit and found out today now their customers are left in the lurch and you was wondering how that works? >> there is not a stay process and skip was required to seize operations as of this motioner. >> morning. >> when did this find that out? >> september 24th, 25th.

i don't remember the exact dates. late september. >> any other questions? >> if you could go back to the slide with all of the numbers on it because i think you said earlier that the four winners were substantially or subjectly better than the others. and i just can't quite square that with the results for lift, which is alsolust.for lift.so can you explain that. >> sure, and i think we saw a pretty clear clumping or grouping of the top four in the mud or high 70s. there was a more than five-point gap between the fourth place score and lyft. with 11 applicants you're bound to see a range but from our spwrupltjudgment and what we saw in the applications that the top four

were clearly a notch above what we received from lyft. >> well, yeah. i think the words you used were subjectly better and i'm not sure six points on a 1 100 point scale is better. the question i wanted to ask was the evaluation at all colored by your perception of your performance on bike share? >> no. >> and that wasn't one of the criteria correct? >> experience and qualifications for experience operating shared mobility. >> i'm not aware were they a part of the earlier pay pilot? >> no. >> it sounds like not so good to be a part of the earlier pilot, though. [ laughter ] >> to your point skip didn't have any major issues but they got a two and when i look at that i have a hard time and they talked about creating a locking system and under safety

they had a low score. i'm not saying it was subjective but i could understand when i look at the numbers i don't have the full questions so i can't evaluate them substantially. but what they described here in the room and i don't know what lyft described but what skip described in the room and what the score is for the corresponding categories don't seem to make sense. i didn't see their application and maybe they didn't describe it. >> i just had one more question and you mentioned with the low-income plans that they're slightly different which is really it it unfortunate for the economy. can you standardize that in the next round or midround or something like that so that you don't have a lot of cob confused people? >> it's something we want to get better. this is an -- >> if they were wildly different, there's a justification to be different

but they're all just about the same so why don't you make them the same? >> it's something to do as we take every step. we sraoewe have reduced a lot of question marks making it more clear and low-income plans those are things we can continue to increase consistency on going forward. >> thank you. >> so just procedural clarification, this is an informational item. we're not voting or issuing the licenses as a board. i have two questions to ask and number one was a criteria that you used in awarding to these four companies passed conduct backing up to the pay lot program, one of the amendments that i personally put in was consideringconsidering whether these

folks followed our rules or jumped into the market early when they shouldn't have. in this go-around was a similar consideration part of the process? >> yes so one of the major categories was experiencing qualifications which the physical capacity of the operators to deliver but then, also the experiences that they're able to demonstrate to operate in san francisco and other cities and we looked at that. >> not a specific consideration like it was last time because there's a broader body of information out there? >> yes. >> and then, my second question retes torelates to the situation. folks are riding on the situation and i told folks you report it to the companies is i appreciate the responsibility that the companies are showing to take complaints. but i have to tell you it's

un-unsatisfying answer. so one of the things i've raised these are technology companies, some of the smartest people in the world working on technologies and why isn't there a technological solution to riding on the situation. ohi have been told skyscrapersdegrade the ability of the gps. well i'll tell you, i've seen people ride these on the sidewalks where there aren't skyscrapers and if they're the problem, maybe we ask folk tkoz thisfolks dothis everywhere. so let me just back up. what has been asked of now our four partners in this, for them do more than just rely on citizens to take pictures of their customers violating the law and send this in? what advances or optimism do we have on the albeit ability to police

these companies? >> the account ability metric to base technology solutions and identify what they were able to do and as you mentioned none of the four said they were ready yet to deploy an effective sidewalk detection but several did promise to have a pilot available during the 12-month permit window and so, we will be looking to those companies to make it on that and to see what can be done. you think particularly as we move into outer neighborhoods that have a lot of lower buildings, maybe there's more opportunity to do this in areas where you don't have the gps location problems. but i am not a gps technology expert. >> and you can remind me, but you think that's a lock-two meck

mechanism, where they can key pwhroeudeployat scale over the course of the pilot. so these companies do have access to lots of technological know-how and the industry is moving fast and over the course of this year, we would expect a lot of progress in the areas. >> so i'll say what i said last time and i realize that we're not sort of into these didn't and these have been issued. but how long are these permits for? >> one year. >> so i won't be here in a year but several people who will be, please ask this question. what before you ush issue this for another year, what steps -- what tech hodge caltechnological steps have you taken to keep scooters off the sidewalk?

that could be gps even because of skyscrapers and in fact most don't. or identifying the areas where people tend to ride on the sidewalk the most personal experience suggests it's one-way streets where people find themselves stuck because they can't get up the one-way street so they ride on the sidewalk. if you don't believe me, ride on post street and you will believe me. if there are certain sidewalks that are the identified problems put sensors on the sidewalks. put a sensor that says, hey there's to skyskrauper skyscraper here.

>> mr. chairman, in it's a public safety issue which i agree, why can't we require them to do it now in. >> we can't require it for procedural reasons. >> why can't we as an agency provide sensors? >> i don't know we as the agency have the technological ability and i think the reality is we should let the scooter geniuses do the scooter work and we'll do the regulatory work and you have to fix the sidewalk problem. so i've said my peace. i know this is an informational item and thank you for withstanding our questions and director please. >> one more that i forgot earlier. on the service area, you showed that map and i'm wondering is there any plans to expand west in the city, as we roll these out? >> our goal, ultimately city-wide service we're not

quite there yet but if there were future expansions we would like more service to the west side. >> ok, that's cool. >> anything else? >> seeing none, thank you. >> directors item 14 is appropriate for a motion to invoke the attorney-client privelege and conduct a closed session. >> motion and all in favour? and any opposed. >> we'll take a five-minute break and the room will be >> directors met in closed session. (inaudible).

>> not disclosed. >> all in favour, please say aye. >> passing unanimously and we are adjourned in memory of our fallen taxi cab driver mr. ahmed and to pass along condolences to family and friends. thank you very much.

>> it is 5:38 p.m. on october 15. welcome to the commission meeting of the san francisco entertainment. my name is ben bleiman, i'm the member president. if you would like to speak, there are speaker forms on the tables and you can hand them to staff or you can just come to the microphone when i call public comment. that is fine too. we ask that everyone turns off their cell phones, including staff and commissioners. i want to thank sf gov tv and media services for sharing this meeting with the public. we will start with a roll call. >> commissioner perez is en route. [roll call] commissioner thomas is an excused absence. >> thank you very much. the first order of business is general public comment. this is for any item that is not

currently on the agenda for this evening. do we have anybody speaking on that? seeing none, public comment is closed. regular agenda. all right. the next agenda item is number 2 the approval of our minutes from october 1, 2019. do we have a motion to approve the minutes? >> i move to approve. >> second. >> is there any public comment on the approval of the minutes? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> vice president camino. [roll call]. >> the minutes have been approved. the next agenda item is a report from executive director weiland. >> thank you president bleiman. good evening commissioners. i have a brief report this evening. i wanted to provide an update for all of you that we have been conducting some community outreach efforts as staff and really in gratitude to deputy director azevedo for leading

the charge. but in educating neighborhoods in merchant corridors around our limited live performance permits specifically and around other permit offerings that we have. a few months back, she had attended a merchants town meeting and recently we spoke at the cultural center department meeting for all the cultural centers in san francisco regarding places of entertainment and other ways to activate their spaces with entertainment. and on tonight's agenda there are four permits for small businesses on the 24th street corridor in the mission. latino cultural district awarded four businesses a mini grant to pay for their llp permit. so that's what brings them here tonight. so we are really excited about that. and also we are pleased that all their applications are on the consent agenda. they've done a lot of outreach in preparation for tonight. and we are very pleased they are joining our community.

i wanted to let you know about that. and we are happy to continue to promote night life and entertainment opportunities via outreach and education in these ways. that's all i have. >> questions for director weiland? thank you very much. looking forward to the retreat this friday. is there any public comment on the director's report? seeing none, public comment is closed. the next agenda item is number 4, which is a report from deputy director azevedo. >> thank you president bleiman. good evening commissioners. so the enforcement report, i just have a few things highlighted here for you this evening if you want to go ahead and follow along here. so page 1 you'll see i've highlighted this. we received a large amount of complaints about the olympic in a concentrated period of time and upon investigation determined that they are not having live entertainment. it's just a loud bar.

so we did respond to that. but i wanted to mention what the recourse was there since we've had a lot of complaints. on page 6 you'll see 22 is highlighted. i brought this up at a hearing recently as well. just giving you an update that we are still trying to get in contact with ownership there, management won't give ownership information. but we have a manager's e-mail address. they are still having live entertainment, full-blown live entertainment. so the next step is that i'll be sending an e-mail out notifying them they have another week. and if they are still having entertainment within that week we will be issuing a citation. so we are following up there. page 8 you'll see that 3910 lounge is highlighted. and this business had closed. so they were recently, this year granted a poe permit and mad permit. but due to somali

core license -- due tosome liquor license situation they are closed. i received a call from sfpd permit officer day that he received notification that the hotel has outdoor speakers on the facade of the building. and they are stopping homeless folks from staying too long outside the hotel but it's disruptive to people living in the nearby vicinity. so technically this falls into an s path or fixed place amplified speaker permit. so inspector fiorentino went out this weekend to gather contact information. when he went the speakers were off. i will be following up with the management to see if they are using the speakers and if so we can have our first

permit. that is all i have highlighted but i'm happy to answer any questions. >> hello. let me start with a question first. do our investigators have the capability of writing an incident report or do we just issue citations? >> we have notice of violation which is a step below citation but we don't have what we would call an instant report. >> every time you issue a notice of violation you send it along with a narrative in your e-mail that is very detailed and could constitute an incident report. >> i'm just looking at the kave22 and the refusal to provide the owner's information. i actually think it's a violation of our local laws but it's a violation

of the abc act. and making notification to abc would trigger an investigation on them. if they want to be that noncompliant that might be the most effective route. >> okay. >> but i'm happy to make that notification on the commission's behalf that this occurred. if we don't have -- but it might be something to think about down the road. maybe kind of an incident report way of memorializing what we are doing. doesn't have to be really complicated. maybe on friday. >> okay. >> thank you. >> thank you for that. >> thank you for the report. i have no comments personally. is there any public comment on the deputy director's report. seeing none, public comment is closed. moving along. agenda item number 6, which is police department questions and comments. i don't see any members from the police department

here so we are going to move along as well. i'm sorry, that was 5. yep, that was 5. and then moving along to number 6 which is a hearing impossible action regarding applications for permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. and deputy director azevedo please introduce the items on consent agenda for this evening. thank you. >> as director weiland mentioned four permits tonight are mini grant funded, which is very exciting. however all five permits on the consent agenda this evening are accessory use permits. there was no opposition submitted. the respective police districts had no conditions. and they had a lot of neighborhood support gathered. happy to answer any questions if you have them. >> our representative from calle24

here? i have a few good questions for you. >> do you want to call specific businesses or. >> more curious about the program that they've put together and how they implemented it. >> hello, good evening. i'm the liaison for the calle latino cultural district. >> got it. so thank you for coming in. we really appreciate it. this is the first i've heard of this. it's pretty exciting to me. can you explain what motivated you to do this and how you went about doing it because i think it might be a model for others. >> the cultural district became a cultural district five years ago. it is in an effort to bring a more cohesive community, invested in the neighborhood and businesses, so

it was a grant that was allocated by the department of -- diane? okay. by the department. so we got a grant for some businesses that were long time businesses within the latino cultural district recently established that met some criteria. the criteria was they had to be in the neighborhood for quite a while. they could host some sort of live entertainment. their lease would be at least three years long as of this time. i think

that was it. and so based on this criteria, i went from business to business to see how many of them would qualify for this grant. and if there was any interest in this grant. and so it is more for businesses that whose primary business is not live entertainment or music or poetry, things like that, right? so we came up with, we have on the list a bakery, we have on the list a small tiny family business restaurant that doesn't seat more than 25 people. we have a bookstore. so it was very exciting for us to come up with this idea, there was a lot of interest. very many wanted to participate. and so it's just a matter of our board

actually looking through the paperwork that i have provided them. and then they wrote it. and that's how we arrived to today. diana? >> just to provide a little context. from the office of workforce development. so it's one of our grantee partners in terms of through our invested neighborhoods program. part of the grant is to support technical assistance with small businesses on the ground, activations, events, and so the mini grant program grew out of that support to support the entire economic strategy for the corridor. so obviously it's a cultural district with lots of events, cultural things happening. in the past there had been entertainment naturally happening in these restaurants. and it went away. so we also saw this as a way to strengthen what was already there to make it more vibrant and for businesses to be able to participate in a way that was within

regulation. so with gabby's support as our business liaison on the ground for the cultural district, she was able to help and work directly with the department with the entertainment commission to help them through the process. because a lot of times it's not even necessarily the money but it's also the bureaucracy the understanding of how to do that. so she served as our liaison to get them through that process and be able to package it in a way that would be accessible to these small businesses. so with that, part of the funding provided the initiation for the grant and to get that through to benefit overall the overall strategy of the area and the district itself. so this is the first four. and we'll see how it goes from there. but we are super excited to be here, to be supporting that and for them to be a part and collaborate as there are activations along the corridor not just individually on their own

and being able to use it as a tool for revenue and to support themselves but also to be part of the bigger picture when there are events and to be able to leverage that for the entire corridor. >> do you know if they have plans to replicate this program in other neighborhoods? >> yes. i know there's been discussions in the bayview. and we are looking at it from this model we'll be looking at other cultural districts and how we can support that in the same way. >> cool. so do you educate them as well, you know, about the good neighborhood policies and all that? i mean because having a permit is one thing but to understand how to not disturb the neighbors to keep going. >> i think that's a very key piece of the neighborhood the local calle 24 cultural district wanted to be responsible in terms of a permit of what it means and also to protect themselves in in terms of what responsibilities come with the permit itself. so that's part

of actually gabby's job as the liaison. she's not only liaison to small businesses but also with the community. it's very well integrated into it. >> great. well, i'm really excited about this. i think this might be a model that could be used all over the city to encourage artists and performers and venues for hiring people. so thank you very much for contributing here. this is really cool. it's great to hear. >> thank you. >> did you have something you wanted to say too? >> i'm one of the founders of the calle 24. we have a board of 19. we have four committees under us. we will be watching them and guiding them and looking for anything that is out of line and trying to make it work for everybody. >> thank you very much. it's great work. and great work for the ewe. is there any public comment on this specific agenda item? i mean the consent the entire consent calendar?

seeing none, public comment is closed. wait. i'm sorry. motion. we have to motion first. i didn't make the motion yet. i'll make the motion to approve. >> i second. >> all right. now we got it. >> all right. [roll call] >> congratulations. it's been approved. please follow up with our deputy director as soon as you can for next steps. thank you. >> good luck. congratulations. >> all right. and now we have a one-time event permit request. and i'm going to ask commission aid crystal stewart to introduce this for us. >> the only item on the regular agenda is for one time-out door entertainment event for the seventh

annual on saturday october 19 from 11 to 8:30 p.m. from 12 to 3 there will be a chowder competition between local restaurants. and four local bands will play. at 4:00 p.m. they will host a benefit concert featuring four bands including the slide deal with grammy winning artist charlie collins. and frazier of sugar lake and joel and scott owen of the pawnshop kings. the concert stage will be positioned toward the bay with film projected away from the local businesses and hotels along jefferson street. the applicant requested to attend tonight's hearing because they anticipate exceeding the standard outdoor sound regulations of npc260.16. staff recommendations and entertainment commission inspectors set a sound prior to the event during a sound check based on the

closest receptor. we approve with conditions listed below. i have sullivan here to speak on behalf of his application. >> it's great to be here. thank you for having me and hearing me at the end. i'm excited. i have a jump drive. i can show pictures and things of the set map. just tell me if that's appropriate. it's right here, i'm going to just pop it in. >> with technology you never quite know what's going to happen. >> i have a degree in computer science. >> then we are lucky. this will be the one we don't need a. >> i will go ahead and show you. give you a visual. i don't

know if you can really see it if it's big enough. you can see our stage over here. can you see that okay? >> we are pretty familiar with the spot. >> there we go. can you hear me okay? sorry. give me a second here. sorry. >> have to rotate i think. >> i think that works. we can see it. >> i can enlarge it a little bit.

>> we have individual monitors. >> so you can see how we configured this year's event. the way the footprint looks it's in front of the bakery and right between the francisco and pier 39 is off to the right there. so really how we are really thinking of doing this is starting our event at 11:00 a.m. for v.i.p. guests. we have a v.i.p. lounge furniture with donated furniture for the day. we are paying for the shipping for it. we have our v.i.p. area. and you'll see the stage. and the greenrooms in the back. and so the idea would be to have -- we have four bands going on. we are going to be opening with a band called the heather nation, she's a cover band, local lady and real mellow acoustic guitar type sound. she'll be starting at noon and going until 1:30 and the other band,

the cary bailey band, swing music followed by a group called the walking dead, a cover band more '90s grunge rock sound going into the side deal which is our new super group a new band these guys i've been dealing with them today on the phone. great group. it's three grammy award winners. it's stan frazier from the pawnshop kings we've got charlie colins from train who is a grammy award winning song writer. they've gotten together and formed this group. so they are using this as their launch event for their new album. so while all this music is playing during the day, we are going to start our chowder competition at 12 p.m so we are going to do three hours of chowder tasting with vintners beer. i believe mayor breed

is going to award the chowder trophy. we have five chowder judges that will be voting on who gets the best chowder. from there the event turned from a foody, wine thing into a music kind of a rock 'n' roll event. it goes from the really the focus on the music will be from 4:00 p.m. until about 8 p.m. and it will end up wrapping up at 8 p.m. so it's a complex event. but it's nonetheless it will be kind of fun. all the benefits and proceeds go to wharf cares which is our benefit program. >> i have a question. >> sure. >> who is running your sound system? >> we have a guy we are working with called glen, called audio north. and he is going to be handling all the sound for the tonight. >> have they done outdoor events before? >> yeah. we got him from the wine festival. he did the food event. he has partnered with our sound

inspectors in the city for smaller events. i have photos of the stage i can show them if you would like to take a look? >> i just want to know the experience. >> yeah. >> although you are pointing away from the hotels, but sometimes we get across the bay the sound travels. so they are used to handling things like that. but it's such a small, these are small groups, right? local. >> yeah, like garage bands. >> huge systems. >> the grammy award winner, i was chatting with the owen brothers today on the phone. and really they do four-part harmony. they actually sing the national anthem at big events. and they are big on vocals and not big on a lot of thumping base. it's not like an edm metal concert. it's look at our musicality not how loud we can be. ironically we took a look at who is going to be complaining

and the only potential nuisance would be the north apartments which are on the other side. so we are projecting the music towards alcatraz essentially. and on the other side we have the apartment building. we've let them know about what's happening. ironically all the hotels, they are all on the port commission board, and they want this, you know, this event and really the businesses do to promote foot traffic and get everybody down there. so we don't have a lot of people not wanting it. >> there's been a lot of festivals encouraged, because it's been a bad kind of tourist summer so a lot of the neighborhoods are asking people like yourself to produce activation to bring in more foot traffic. >> one of the beautiful things about this too, so the wharf cares program is near to dear to my heart. the ambassadors are creating a situation of warmth for the homeless where

they can provide blankets and refer referrals into mental health and other services. people that don't want to spend the admission for the chowder competition, they can watch the event, bring a basket of food and eat and enjoy the day. so i'm trying to make this as much of a fun event for everybody and accessible for everyone, you know. >> great. >> so yeah, so as far as projection, i talked to tony today for sound, and we are excited about having him come by 11 amon11:00 a.m. a.m. on saturday. i think there will be two orthree sound checks throughout the day. the band will be landing at 11 a.m and there will be another one at 3:30 for the band when they get set up. i will be mindful of where we are putting that extra

sound. >> okay. thank you. >> yeah. i'm wondering if there's any other sort of descriptors i can provide or other visuals. i brought other photos. i don't know if that's needed or whatever you think. >> i'm okay on descriptors. i have a question. i understand we are asking, and this may be partially for the staff as well but you are asking for a one-timex pangs -- one-time expansion. >> raymond wasn't requesting this, he applied for the one-time-out door entertainment permit and i flagged it because it looks like a larger event and he was having several bands and the footprint looked bigger so i had crystal reach out to see could he comply with the condition which is in municipal police code to the inaudible at 250 feet from the property playing at the event or the last attending audience member. and he

said he really couldn't comply with that. and he wanted a little more leeway. and so our condition is it's not super specific in terms of what their sound limit is because we need to go out when they have the event set up and be there for sound checks. we're asking you allow us to administratively set that limit based on the closest sensitive receptor which is likely far beyond 250 feet. >> got it. thank you. >> one of my concerns really is i work at the building for the fisherman's wharf benefit district. and we have a lot of these street performers that come in and i can sometimes hear from my office which is a few blocks away i can hear the performers that are right there at the triangle lot. so i guess as it exists, the community is used todayly amplified sound just because of where the location is. but to be sensitive to you within that 250-foot range if i have

somebody on a mic the mc for the event and i have the cover band performing and they go beyond one city block just to be mindful and be within guideline. we want to let you know and be up front about stuff. >> i think i mean when they did the america's cup they had this big debate whether they have their big concert stage. usually it's great for you to come out because you never know on the hill who is going to complain but i think in this case it's a more local festival. i don't think you're going to have that problem. that's why i was asking who is running your sound. and that's your key. if you have somebody experienced then you shouldn't have complaints. but this is nothing compared to what was down there for america's cup. >> yeah. and also they did a big presentation for i think it was the nba a few years ago on pier 39 and that was another amplified sound event. so this is not the first time it's been done. it's now it's a little

more structured. our goal would be to try to make this more robust of an event on a annual basis and bring more money into wharf cares. >> the street artists come under the street performer. doesn't really come under our purview. >> that's the thing. >> one time they tried to figure that out, you know, but. >> our goal is we have the receiver the zefer. we are motivated to end this by 8:00 p.m. and get people into the bars and restaurants as part of the business promotion. our goal was to bring in proceeds for wharf cares but promote the local businesses. so we are not going to go far beyond 8 to anow a-- annoy people. >> i think it's good. >> i would encourage you to aim the

speakers towards oakland because they are outside of our jurisdiction. berkeley. >> aim it towards berkeley. >> i think we've heard enough unless anybody has more questions. >> ready for a motion? >> thank you. you can have a seat. >> thank you guys. i'm really excited. and please come by on saturday. we would love to have you. >> i would like to open this up for public comment. we do have a commentator. >> this should be one of the chowder judges. >> good evening commissioners. i just want to also give kudos to randal and rachel from the community benefit district at fisherman's wharf. the business there is like a roller coaster ride. today was completely dead. so events like this help merchants it keeps the vie vibrance. the fact that we are having this discussion, i mean, is great.

there's a michael jackson performer. there's a sinatra performer. they are not permitted performers. they just come up randomly whenever they want so to speak. but having this discussion today, we are ready and we know what we are getting. i commend this gentleman here. wharf fest is going to be very successful. i think it will be sold out. this is not a first time event. they have a history behind this event. so i just think that this one in particular, the music is going to be really cool this year. so i'm all for it. >> thank you. anymore public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. do we have a motion? >> i'll raise the motion to approve it with the staff and the sfpd recommendation, the two conditions for approval. >> i second the motion. [roll call] >> it has been approved. thank you very much.

congratulations. please follow up with our staff at your earliest convenience for next steps. thank you. >> good luck. >> all right. and the final agenda item is agenda item number 7 which is commissioner comments and questions. >> you know how we have maybe this for commissioner falzon, since we haven't had police comments in a while the permit officers from each district with come and air their frustrations or any suggestions of improvement or promotions maybe that we can do to beef up entertainment in their districts. >> i'm happy to make that offer yes. it's been both kaitlyn and crystal have been really great at educating them on any changes within staff and showing them the map of our

permitted places and we are working with each permit officer directly on any enforcement action. so they've been super engaged administratively. but i agree it would be great to see them in here. >> you know, we've all been doing a lot of thinking around our mandate beyond just the regulation of night life but also the promotion of night life. and there are a lot of moments where when we are listening to different groups, tonight was really beautiful. we had someone from calle24 and we had the wharf fest. these are legacy businesses. there's a lot of history there. and i'm starting to become more curious what their outreach strategy includes. as we think about how we create a platform for promoting night life as a city agency, i think we need to incorporate more learning in our permitting process around what our permit holders and what people are doing

to just engage at this point. i want to have an understanding of it's like street team activities, is it facebook. i mean, i'm very curious what strategies people are employing as we look at all the articles that are coming out in the newspapers these days, we are seeing the businesses close and we do a count of how many businesses have closed since the beginning of this year i'm curious as to how many are starting to open. one two, how many are becoming a permit holder and are becoming part of the commission and how many services they are utilizing, whether it's through the outdoor event producer series what kind of ta programs they are utilizing within oewd and mohcd. i think we are kind of in crisis for small businesses at this point. and i think

it's sad. i think every sunday paper we are learning about all these different businesses closing. >> that's a great idea, especially because i think we are so close to the problem and these permit holders. and i think oftentimes when we hear that a business closes there's another one that opens in its place. so it's good to know what our story is and what these business owners are doing to still activate their spaces. i think staff-wise we can definitely do a lot more data analysis, which i think would be really interesting to do, especially to look at all the businesses that closed and see which held permits from us and then what happened with that space, so i think deputy director azevedo can work with van houghton on that and then just on the intake side, we could always ask more questions in our permit application meaning that's totally relevant. and we should just talk offline and

see if there's anything we can include in the applications. >> and during our retreat i think we should powwow around the different kinds of questions we should be asking so anecdotally when people are coming in front of our commission we'll be able to learn what tools people are utilizing to promote their establishments and how we can better promote night life. >> the other option is this is a previous mandate from a previous president of the commission, but if you want to know more about these limited live performance permits i know it definitely speeds up our agenda to have them all on

consent. if you want to know more about their stories, we can change that up and have them on the regular agenda. it's really up to the president. >> well, thank you for those comments. i had a couple things. does anybody else have comments? first of all, seeing that calle 24 bundling of llps and grant program, i think it's something we need to take a much smarter look at. i think there's probably tens and tens of different neighborhood corridors that might be able to use that. and i think our goal, at least my goal and i think our goal should be more llps at the minimum across entire city so there's more opportunities for artists and performers to play and our culture is more vibrant. so that was really cool. and i'm shocked that i was unaware of it before, and that's on me. i also think that we got to the point of small businesses reaching out. last monday there was a pretty heated discussion at the small business commission on the proposed fees around go boxes. and i think some of the legislature's -- legislators are starting to see how frustrated small business people are especially in the service industry. and i know that a lot of businesses feel

like they can't raise their prices anymore and continue to do business. and that's a serious issue. and i commend anyone with an environmental mind who wants to change human behavior and wants to produce less waste in san francisco. it's a crushing issue of our time. i'm just hoping that we find ways to do that that don't also force small businesses to continually raise their prices. for the record, beer and a burger at my bar in the mission is currently $27 with a tip. and our burger is not that good. i'll put that on camera here. it's okay. but it's not that good. [laughter] that's a lot of money for a burger and a beer and everybody sits around talking about how millennials are ordering online and changing their buying habits and austria try having student debt and spending $27 on a burger and beer and you would come up with other buying habits yourself. finally it takes a lot for a government body to surprise me in this day and age. but i

encourage you to read up on the responsible beverage service act that has been proposed and now is being implemented by the california abc. it is very rare that i see a steaming pile of turd this large that affects small businesses in our state. what they are proposing which they did in a very quick timeline, essentially over the summer break when nobody was paying attention, they are trying to create a new bureaucracy in the state which will actually force every single person who serves alcohol to sign up in the dmv-like state setting in order to just serve alcohol. it will rival the dmv in size and scope. i know personally many servers in the city who would be uncomfortable putting their name into a database for various different reasons not the least of which are things happening on the federal level

around immigration enforcement et cetera. it also requires a brand new extremely onerous basically college-level course for everybody to complete and get at least a 70 percent on before they can serve alcohol. and they are offering it in just two languages, english and spanish taking out the literally hundreds of other languages that people serving alcohol in california have to -- or speak as their first language. it also makes the id process incredibly difficult for checking ids. to the point where it will slow down business and really, really hurt business what they are proposing. it's a solution in search of a problem. the public comment time is over now. but anybody watching and anybody else watching this, i would encourage you to reach out to your state representatives your local representatives, scream it from the rooftops that this is exactly what we do not need right now.

it's a solution in search of a problem. so i just wanted to point that out. is there any public comment on our comments and questions? seeing none, public comment is closed. and i will adjourn this meeting at 6:19 p.m. thank you. >> 5, 4, 3, 2 , 1. cut.

>> we are here to celebrate the opening of this community garden. a place that used to look a lot darker and today is sun is shining and it's beautiful and it's been completely redone and been a gathering place for this community. >> i have been waiting for this garden for 3 decades. that is not a joke. i live in an apartment building three floors up and i have potted plants and have dreamt the whole time i have lived there to have some ability to build this dirt. >> let me tell you handout you -- how to build a community garden. you start with a really good idea and add community support from echo media and levis and take

management and water and sun and this is what we have. this is great. it's about environment and stewardship. it's also for the -- we implemented several practices in our successes of the site. that is made up of the pockets like wool but they are made of recycled plastic bottles. i don't know how they do it. >> there is acres and acres of parkland throughout golden gate park, but not necessarily through golden community garden. we have it right in the middle of

>> all right. good morning, the meeting will come to order. welcome to the october 18, 2019, special meeting of the public safety and neighborhood services committee. i am supervisor rafael mandelman. we are expecting vice chair stefani to arrive, our clerk is john carroll. thank you, mr. carol. i want to thank charles and jason at s.f. g. tv for staffing this meeting. machine