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>> i went through a lot of struggles in my life, and i am blessed to be part of this. i am familiar with what people are going through to relate and empathy and compassion to their struggle so they can see i came out of the struggle, it gives them hope to come up and do something positive. ♪ ♪ i am a community ambassador.
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we work a lot with homeless, visitors, a lot of people in the area. >> what i like doing is posting up at hotspots to let people see visibility. they ask you questions, ask you directions, they might have a question about what services are available. checking in, you guys. >> wellness check. we walk by to see any individual, you know may be sitting on the sidewalk, we make
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sure they are okay, alive. you never know. somebody might walk by and they are laying there for hours. you never know if they are alive. we let them know we are in the area and we are here to promote safety, and if they have somebody that is, you know, hanging around that they don't want to call the police on, they don't have to call the police. they can call us. we can direct them to the services they might need. >> we do the three one one to keep the city neighborhoods clean. there are people dumping, waste on the ground and needles on the ground. it is unsafe for children and adults to commute through the streets. when we see them we take a picture dispatch to 311. they give us a tracking number and they come later on to pick it up.
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we take pride. when we come back later in the day and we see the loose trash or debris is picked up it makes you feel good about what you are doing. >> it makes you feel did about escorting kids and having them feel safe walking to the play area and back. the stuff we do as ambassadors makes us feel proud to help keep the city clean, helping the residents. >> you can see the community ambassadors. i used to be on the streets. i didn't think i could become a community ambassador. it was too far out there for me to grab, you know. doing this job makes me feel good. because i came from where a lot of them are, homeless and on the street, i feel like i can give
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them hope because i was once there. i am not afraid to tell them i used to be here. i used to be like this, you know. i have compassion for people that are on the streets like the homeless and people that are caught up with their addiction because now, i feel like i can give them hope. it reminds you every day of where i used to be and where i where i used to be and where i am at now. - working for the city and county of san francisco will immerse you in a vibrant and dynamic city that's on the forefront of economic growth, the arts, and social change. our city has always been on the edge of progress and innovation. after all, we're at the meeting of land and sea. - our city is famous for its iconic scenery, historic designs, and world- class style. it's the birthplace of blue jeans,
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>> when i look at an old neon sign that's working or not working, i feel the family business that was in there. >> since 2009, citywide, sf shines, has supported businesses and sites like the ones that receive new neon signs. >> you know, sf shines is doing an amazing job to bring back the lighting and the neon glow of san francisco. >> sf shines is such an amazing program, and i can't think of another program in another city that gives matching gunned funds to store owners, mom and pop owners, and if they've got a neon sign, they've really got
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a great way to advertise their business. >> this is a continuation of the sf shines program. >> focusing other neon signs is relatively new to us. of the seven neon signs, we've invested about $145,000. >> a good quality sign costs more, but it lasts infinitily longer. as opposed to lasting five years, a good neon sign will last 15 to 20 years. >> in san francisco, the majority of neon signs are for mom-and-pop businesses. in order to be able to restore these signs, i think it gives back to your community. >> part of the project has to do with prioritizing certain
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signs in the neighborhood based on their aesthetics, based on their current signs, and base on the history. in the time that we've been here, we've seen a number of signs restored just on eddy street. >> there are a number of signs in the tenderloin and many more that are waiting or wanting to be restored. i have worked with randall and al, and we've mapped out every single one of them and rated them as to how much work they would need to get restored. that information is passed onto sf shines, and they are going to rank it. so if they have x budget for a year, they can say all right, we're going to pick these five, and they're putting together clusters, so they build on top of what's already there. >> a cluster of neon signs is sort of, i guess, like a cluster of grapes. when you see them on a corner or on a block, it lights up the
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neighborhood and creates an ambient glow. if you havy got two of three of them, you've created an atmosphere that's almost like a movie set. >> some of the hotel, we've already invested in to get those neon signs for people to enjoy at night include the elk hotel, jefferson hotel, the verona, not to mention some we've done in chinatown, as well as the city's portal neighborhood. >> we got the fund to restore it. it took five months, and the biggest challenge was it was completely infested with pigeons. once we got it clean, it came out beautiful. >> neon signs are often equated with film noir, and the noir genre as seen through the hollywood lens basically depicted despair and
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concentration. >> you would go downtown and see the most recent humphrey bogart film filled with neon in the background. and you'd see that on market street, and as market street got seedier and seedier and fewer people continued to go down, that was what happened to all the neon strips of light. >> the film nori might start with the light filled with neon signs, and end with a scene with a single neon sign blinking and missing a few letters. >> one of my favorite scenes,
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orson welles is chasing ririt rita hayworth with neon signs in the background. >> i think what the office of economic and workforce development is very excited with is that we'll be able to see more neon signs in a concentrated way lit up at night for visitors and most especially residents. the first coin laundry, the elm hotel, the western hotel are ones that we want to focus on in the year ahead. >> neon signs are so iconic to certain neighborhoods like the hara, like the nightcap. we want to save as many historic and legacy neon signs in san francisco, and so do they. we bring the expertise, and they bring the means to actually get the job done. >> people in tenderloin get
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really excited as they see the signs relit. as you're driving through the tenderloin or the city, it pretty much tells you something exciting is happening here. >> knee an was created to make the night more friendly and advertise businesses. it's a great way of supporting and helping local businesses. >> there's so many ways to improve public safety. the standard way is having more eyes on the street, but there's other culturally significant ways to do that, and one those ways is lighting up the streets. but what better way and special way to do that is by having old, historic neon signs lighting up our streets at night and casting away our shadows. >> when i see things coming back to life, it's like remembering how things were. it's remembering the hotel or the market that went to work seven days a week to raise their money or to provide a service, and it just -- it just -- it just
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recreation and parks and towerism and after i graduated i moved to candlestick park and grain r gain adlot of experience work with the san francisco 49 and [inaudible] be agfemale in a vore sports dynamic facility. i coached volo ball on the side and as candle stick closed down the city had me move in92 too [inaudible] >> immediate interaction and response when you work with kids. i think that is what drives other people to do this. what drew me to come to [inaudible] to begin with for me to stay. i use today work in advertising as a media buyer and it wasn't fulfilling enough and i found a opportunity to be a writing coach. the moment [inaudible] you to take
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advantage of how you change and inspire a child by the words you say and actions you do. >> you have a 30 different programs for girls through rec and park and fast ball, soft ball and volley ball. i started the first volley ball league and very proud what i have done with that. being a leader for girls is passion and showing to be confident and being ambiggish and strong person. [inaudible] for about 5 years. programs offered thraw thirty-three rec and park and oversee thg prms about a year. other than the programs we offer we offer summer camp squz do [inaudible] during the summer and that is something i wherei have been able to shine in my role. >> couple years we started the civic center socking league and what an amazing opportunity it
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was and is it for kid in the neighborhood who come together every friday in the civic center plaza on green grass to run and play. you otonly see soccer and poetry but also see books t. is a really promoting literacy to our kid and giving them to tools to make it work at home. real fortunate to see the [inaudible] grow. >> girls get pressureed with society and i know that is obvious, but we see it every day, magazines, commercials the idea what a woman should look like but i like to be a strong female role for it goals that play sports because a lot of times they don't see someone strong in a female role with something connected with sports and athleticism and i love i can bring that to the table. >> soccer, poetry, community service. we now have field of
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dreams. we are [inaudible] all over the bay area and excited to be share our mission with other schools across the bay to really build the confidence and character of kids when they go out to play and close their eyes and think, why was [inaudible] we want to make sure-i want to make sure they remember me and remember the other folks who [inaudible] >> get out there and do it. who cares about what anybody else says. there will be poopal people that come up and want to wreck your ideas. that happen today eme when i went to candle stick part and wanted to [inaudible] people told me no left and right. whether you go out for something you are passionate about our something you want to grow in and feel people will say no. go out and get it done. i can be the
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strong leader female and i love that. >> we broke ground in december of last year. we broke ground the day after sandy hook connecticut and had a moment of silence here. it's really great to see the silence that we experienced then and we've experienced over the years in this playground is now filled
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with these voices. >> 321, okay. [ applause ] >> the park was kind of bleak. it was scary and over grown. we started to help maclaren park when we found there wasn't any money in the bond for this park maclaren. we spent time for funding. it was expensive to raise money for this and there were a lot of delays. a lot of it was just the mural, the sprinklers and we didn't have any grass. it was that bad. we worked on sprinkler heads and grass and we fixed everything. we worked hard collecting everything. we had about 400 group members. every a little bit helped and now the park is busy all
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week. there is people with kids using the park and using strollers and now it's safer by utilizing it. >> maclaren park being the largest second park one of the best kept secrets. what's exciting about this activation in particular is that it's the first of many. it's also representation of our city coming together but not only on the bureaucratic side of things. but also our neighbors, neighbors helped this happen. we are thrilled that today we are seeing the fruition of all that work in this city's open space. >> when we got involved with this park there was a broken swing set and half of -- for me, one thing i really like to point out to other groups is that when you are competing for funding in a hole on the
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ground, you need to articulate what you need for your park. i always point as this sight as a model for other communities. >> i hope we continue to work on the other empty pits that are here. there are still a lot of areas that need help at maclaren park. we hope grants and money will be available to continue to improve this park to make it shine. it's a really hidden jewel. a lot of people don't know it's here.
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>> this is one place you can always count on to give you what you had before and remind you of what your san francisco history used to be. >> we hear that all the time, people bring their kids here and their grandparents brought them here and down the line. >> even though people move away, whenever they come back to the city, they make it here. and they tell us that. >> you're going to get something made fresh, made by hand and made with quality products and something that's very, very good. ♪ >> the legacy bars and restaurants was something that was begun by san francisco simply to recognize and draw attention to the establishments. it really provides for san francisco's unique character.
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♪ >> and that morphed into a request that we work with the city to develop a legacy business registration. >> i'm michael cirocco and the owner of an area bakery. ♪ the bakery started in 191. my grandfather came over from italy and opened it up then. it is a small operation. it's not big. so everything is kind of quality that way. so i see every piece and cut every piece that comes in and out of that oven. >> i'm leslie cirocco-mitchell, a fourth generation baker here with my family. ♪ so we get up pretty early in the morning.
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i usually start baking around 5:00. and then you just start doing rounds of dough. loaves. >> my mom and sister basically handle the front and then i have my nephew james helps and then my two daughters and my wife come in and we actually do the baking. after that, my mom and my sister stay and sell the product, retail it. ♪ you know, i don't really think about it. but then when i -- sometimes when i go places and i look and see places put up, oh this is our 50th anniversary and everything and we've been over 100 and that is when it kind of hits me. you know, that geez, we've been here a long time. [applause] ♪ >> a lot of people might ask why our legacy business is important. we all have our own stories to
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tell about our ancestry. our lineage and i'll use one example of tommy's joint. tommy's joint is a place that my husband went to as a child and he's a fourth generation san franciscan. it's a place we can still go to today with our children or grandchildren and share the stories of what was san francisco like back in the 1950s. >> i'm the general manager at tommy's joint. people mostly recognize tommy's joint for its murals on the outside of the building. very bright blue. you drive down and see what it is. they know the building. tommy's is a san francisco hoffa, which is a german-style presenting food. we have five different carved meats and we carve it by hand
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at the station. you prefer it to be carved whether you like your brisket fatty or want it lean. you want your pastrami to be very lean. you can say i want that piece of corn beef and want it cut, you know, very thick and i want it with some sauerkraut. tell the guys how you want to prepare it and they will do it right in front of you. san francisco's a place that's changing restaurants, except for tommy's joint. tommy's joint has been the same since it opened and that is important. san francisco in general that we don't lose a grip of what san francisco's came from. tommy's is a place that you'll always recognize whenever you lock in the door. you'll see the same staff, the same bartender and have the same meal and that is great. that's important.
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♪ >> the service that san francisco heritage offers to the legacy businesses is to help them with that application process, to make sure that they really recognize about them what it is that makes them so special here in san francisco. ♪ so we'll help them with that application process if, in fact, the board of supervisors does recognize them as a legacy business, then that does entitle them to certain financial benefits from the city of san francisco. but i say really, more importantly, it really brings them public recognition that this is a business in san francisco that has history and that is unique to san francisco.
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>> it started in june of 1953. ♪ and we make everything from scratch. everything. we started a you -- we started a off with 12 flavors and mango fruits from the philippines and then started trying them one by one and the family had a whole new clientele. the business really boomed after that. >> i think that the flavors we make reflect the diversity of san francisco. we were really surprised about the legacy project but we were thrilled to be a part of it. businesses come and go in the city.
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pretty tough for businesss to stay here because it is so expensive and there's so much competition. so for us who have been here all these years and still be popular and to be recognized by the city has been really a huge honor. >> we got a phone call from a woman who was 91 and she wanted to know if the mitchells still owned it and she was so happy that we were still involved, still the owners. she was our customer in 1953. and she still comes in. but she was just making sure that we were still around and it just makes us feel, you know, very proud that we're carrying on our father's legacy. and that we mean so much to so many people. ♪ >> it provides a perspective. and i think if you only looked
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at it in the here and now, you're missing the context. for me, legacy businesses, legacy bars and restaurants are really about setting the context for how we come to be where we are today. >> i just think it's part of san francisco. people like to see familiar stuff. at least i know i do. >> in the 1950s, you could see a picture of tommy's joint and looks exactly the same. we haven't change add thing. >> i remember one lady saying, you know, i've been eating this ice cream since before i was born. and i thought, wow! we have, too. >> good morning, everybody, the
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meeting will come to order. welcome to the meeting of the rule's committee. i'm hilary ronan, chair of the committee and sitting to my left is supervisor marr and to my right is matt hainey. our clerk is victor young and i would like to thank lawrence brian for starting this meeting. >> please make sure to silence all cell phones, complete speaker cards and documents to be included should be submitted to the clerk. >> and before we get started, can we have a motion to excuse supervisor walton? >> so moved. >> without objection? >> thank you. >> without objection that motion passes. there clerk, please read item number one. >> item number one is a hearing to considered the proposed
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ordinance by four more supervisors to the march 3, 2020 election to establish mental health sf to provide mental health services and psychiatric medication to all adult residents of san francisco with mental illness and/or substance abuse disorders, homeless, you uninsured or healthy sf. >> thank you so much. i could not be more excited to be where we are here today. we just came from an incredible rally with over 600 people, healthcare workers, frontline social workers, conservatives and family members, psychiatrists, psychologists and, you know, everyone who has been dedicating their lives to addressing mental illness and substance use in our city and
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country. i could not be more excited that today is the day that we are finally moving forward, a major step to get our march 2020 ballot measure mental health sf to the people. supervisor hainey and i, together with the cosponsorship with supervisor marr have worked with the true experts of the field. you could hold down signs at your chest level and you will be removed from the chambers if you hold them up and really i would love to see all of you stay because this is a very important, important discussion. thank you so much. supervisor hainey and worked with the true experts in the field to draft this legislation and we're very, very proud of the outcome that is before us today. mental health sf is a universal -- let me repeat, a
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universal access to mental health care for everyone suffering from mental health care and substance use disorders. specifically, this means the city will be providing that care to everyone who is homeless, who is uninsured, unhealthy san francisco or enrolled in medicale or who has a severe mental illness. anyone who is leaving jail and hasn't been able to reapply for m emedicale. it's for all of san francisco and if you are insured and have private health insurance and cannot access care, which we know happens every single day, mental health health sf is creating a new office of private accredittability and well will have advocates there, ready and
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finally you won't be treated in a silo and go to every provider because you will have a case manager to coordinate that care and will give you a treatment plan and have you navigate up and down that treatment plan based on what you're experiencing today. if you are dealing with a lower moderate mental health, you can have a regular case management to help you when you need that help to get appointments. if you have homeless and have a lot of other barriers making it difficult for you to access services, you'll get an intensive case manager.
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if you are on the street and you are not ready to trust people yet because you haven't been given that reason to trust people into the system, we will have critical case managers that will come out and work with you and get to know you and build that trust with you. when you see people in psychosis and talking to themselves, you don't have to call the police anymore if that's scarry to you. you will have a ful number to cl
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of mental health professionals, to make sure that people are safe. that team is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week and mental health sf will meet a huge expansion of services. right now we know that people are getting stuck in a level of care that they know -- if they're able to get into care at all in the first place, they often get stuck at a hire level of care where they don't need to be. we know of people who have spent nine months in jail, waiting for a bed in the system and no longer, that is unacceptable and it is not going to happen in this city.
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we will help anyone who needs the care get the need. we are finally in in country realizing the diseases of the mind are as important as diseases of the body. when you are diagnosed with cancer or with a tumour, they don't tell you to wait two months and we'll see you when we can get you if is we may or may not have services to provide you and you can lanquish on the street in the meantime. well, why are we telling that to people who have an illness of the mind? that makes no sense. and we finally have mental health parody in maine and guess what? in sanfrancisco, we'll have it in practise and in reality, as well. that's what mental health sf is all about. thank you. if you can instead of clapping do the spirit fingers, that would be much appreciated.
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mayor's office right now and the mayor's office has not been opened topento a universal systl health care and they have wanted to focus on the 4,000 individuals in the street. i understand where they're coming from but we want to go bigger and we are in those discusses right now and they're going well and i'm very, very hopeful that we can come to you shortly and say, you know what? we don't need a ballot measure. we can implement it right now which would be amazing but we don't have that deal today but rest assured that matt and i together with the mental health sf committee, many in the room and i'll talk to you about them in a second, we are doing that hard work of defate, discussion and compromise. but where we will not compromise, we need a universal
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program and that's where, if we can't reap acan't reach an agrel go to the ballot. i appreciate the gph and mayor's office have been engaging in the serious discussions. so with that, before i turn it over to matt and to -- to supervisor hainey and supervisor marr, i have to give a few extra special thank yous, start wiging with our staff. our staff have been living and breathing mental health sf for a long time. a shout-out to catalinas morales who started us off and studying to become a social worker herself. so maybe she'll be one of the social workers in sfgov. carolyn gusen, i love her and
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can't thank her. i'm sure matt will do this, abigail ribimonti-mesa, you are a brilliant ray of sunshine and we're so lucky to have you in this battle with us. i need to thank particularly the people who have spent countless, countless hours serve on our leadership committee for mental health sf. there are individuals from -- i'll say the organizations, sciu10-1, ifpte -- did i say 21? and national union of healthcare workers, nhw, as well am i missing anyone? i think that's theunions. the assembly member sil tin
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didn't has been with us from the beginning and the amazing mark chucklebang. and labor council represented by kim tavaloni, sciu10-1 by katelyn prendavel, jason kloom, local 21 represented by deborah grabel, julia harding and i think that's it and nuhw by paul kumar and ryan beaston, 2015 by lerma and julia harding.
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and then zach golden, sarah short from the demand coalition who was just, i think detained by hopefully will be joining us soon didn't then finally we've received amazing support this entire time by the incredible liam mcglofland and jackie kragr. thank you for your incredible nonstop work on this measure and then finally, there was a little conflict before we came in here. there's a lot of excitement and emotion but i will tell you the deputy sheriff's association has been supportive of mental health sf. so let's just know that they have been supporting us from the get-go on this initiative, because they know what it means when mental illness goes un treated. so thank you to them and thank
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you to huey sf, 2121 and i said that the san francisco labor council, the consumers and the families, most recently zach williams who made a beautiful video and tribute to his father, robin williams, who battled and struggled with mental illness in his lifetime and has been a huge supporter of mental health sf. we've had so much incredible imput from all of our community-based organizations from the get-go, community housing partnerships, tenderloin development, coalition on homelessness, senior and disability action, mental health association of san francisco, taxpayers for public safety, st. anthony's glide, the support of housing provider's network, human service's network,
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progress foundation, the national alliance of mental illness, the direct policy alliance and so many more. the reason we've had 100 drafts of this measure is because every time we shared it with the experts, they had new, excellent feedback for us and so we kept making it better and better until we got to the product you see today. so with that, i wanted to thank you all so much for this labor of love, this community labor of love that we've all created in mental health sf and whether we pass it here at the board of supervisors or at the ballot in march of 2020, we're going to make damn sure this law is enacted because it's time for change and time for solutions. supervisor hainey. >> thank you. >> thank you.
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this would not have happened the way you've gone to the community and engaged them with respect and humility and it's an honour to be a part of this process is a part of your staff in my first nine months of office. >> for everyone that works in our city, the tenders loin, this is an issue of human rights and people in our city who are in need, who are suffering and sometimes quietly.
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this is a huge step to make sure that people have care to access and treatment and that we actuallyize mental health as a human right and create a model that should be replicated across our country. san francisco has the capacity to do that. before i go into a couple of things, i do want to make one thing clear that i think is important. this is the people's house here in city hall and we want you all here. you all -- this place belongs to you and it is important that you feel safe and that this place is accessible to you. so i think were some things that happened out in the hallway in terms of people were treated that i found unacceptable and folks not in this room with us right now, you have our commitment to have their back because it's important that all of you feel safe here and feel that this is your home and can be heard here. and in many ways, that's what
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this for us is about. it's hearing the people, what they're experiencing and what their needs are, the patients, families and then making that real policy. so it's important that you can find a path to do that, not just with us directly but here at city hal hall. >> for those fighting to be make substance treatment right, this has been a long journey and i want to recognise all of the people fighting for decades and decades, whether you work in a hospital and trying to fight to make sure there's adequate staffing and you're getting support for a patient on an individual level, whether you're part of the mental health association or the treatment
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on-demand coalition is working and showing up to these hearings for funding, this is not a new issue and mental health sf didn't come out of the sky. it was built on all of the fights and the struggles to get us to this point where we have said this is the model we want to see made a reality. and if we will have treatment on demand, how do we actualize that and build a system.
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we're done with the incrementalism, bureaucrats at the top telling us the need is met. it's not true and real you and you all have been saying that again and again and again and now it's time that city hall recognises that and makes changes that reflects that, because we don't want to be here in five years having the same conversation about everything is fine and we're taking these little steps. we're long passed that. so the crisis response team will
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respond to how crisis in the street. far too arc too often i see thee used far too often and that can make things a lot worse. instead, we need people who are trained to respond in never ways and in ways that we not only stabilize the situation but enter people into a system of care. it just cycles right back. there's no responsibility for that person and their needs in
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an ongoing way and that's the commitment we want to make with mental health sf. the office insurance accountability, this is very important because no one in our city, whatever your insurance situation is should feel alone without someone they can go to fight for them and to make sure they get access to treatment and i want to shout out to the folks from kaisr and uhw fighting for mental health within the system at kaiser and many of us have kaiser and we've heard people going months without treatment. they need to get their appropriate care and when they fail, it hurts all of us and ultimately, they will in many cases become the city's responsibility. so we have a direct interest to fight for all residents.
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and integrating that is a huge fall mental sf will fix. this is separated from the system of housing and so we end up in this sort of round about where you say, well, why didn't the treatment work? because they were released to the street. or somebody goes into a navigation center or shelter and can you get this person access to care and that's not us, that's dph, that's not what we do. so the result is, of course, that people's care is not treated with the urgency and the impressive approach thacomprehet desires.
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i'm thankful for the work of everyone on our committee, supervisor marr and so many others and i think we're close to getting this done. there's a few more steps to take, but ultimately, once it passes, we'll also have the responsibility to make it a reality because this is one more big step on the road to making sure mental health sf is not just a right in name but practise and i know that's what you have fought for in your lives and continue to do. so thank you again. thank you supervisor ronan for your leadership and i'm excited to move this forward but i'm more excited when we start to see the impact it will have in our neighborhoods and residents and communities. >> thank you. supervisor marr? >> thank you, chair ronan.
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i wanted to add my brief thank yous and thoughts before we hear public comment and so i just wanted to start by thanking supervisor ronan and hainey and staff for all of your incredible leadership in creating this proposal for universal access to mental health services and treatment addiction for everyone that needs it here in the city. mental health sf is exactly the kind of bold, comprehensive solution needed to address the behavioral health cry vi crisisg our city, cutting across all districts, in the mission district in the tenderloin to the sunset district. thank you so much. i want to acknowledge all of the community organizations, the front-line nurses and clinicians and social workers and the patients and their families that
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have pushed us and pushed the city to really address this crisis in a more comprehensive and bolder way. i look forward to having this move forward on the ballot this march or legislatively, whatever is the best approach, and i'm happy to cosponsor it and support your efforts. >> thank you so much and i just wanted to thank the city attorney's office and ann pearson who worked on the hundreds of drafts that i talked about with us. they gave us impot
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