students. that can definitely lead to overload and feelings of burnout in general. i also wanted to thank commissioner norton for bringing this up. even if you're totally committed and loving your kids, there's only so much. i think in some cases what we see is a tipping point where people max out and we just burn people out. i guess i'm wondering which site -- are there certain sites we're seeing this more than others, do they send to have certain characters? which sites are doing well? maybe we can learn from that and we can beef up supports from schools that have these turnover issues. finally i also wanted to thank commissioner norton for bringing up education.

i've been pushing our district to educate families. i'm a 20-year educator in this district, and i still don't understand all the ins and outs of education law and the process and i was talking about a principle today and she was explaining the difference between an io4 and the other document. in my heart there is a lot of issues and it's like going to the doctor and getting a diagnosis that you're uncomfortable with. i want to urge our legal team, communications team, and those that work with family liaisons, i don't know know of ways that

we're educating people on their rights. parents can request assessments and it's confusing how do we do that. i don't think it's common knowledge that a parent can say they're concerned about their comments and they want them assessed. if your child is assessed and you want them to go through the process, i'm not aware of any protocol for educating families on their rights. maybe we have that, but it's not visible on the website. if i don't know it, i'm assuming -- i'm one of those pretty involved parents. i look for those handouts and things to help families. i don't even know where to look. so i think we really can't partner with families and we need our families because they're the capacity that we don't have. they increase our capacity to serve students when we work in

partnership with them. we're less likely to get in lawsuits and less contentious relationships with them when we feel welcomed. if you can speak to anything around the parent education around rights, that would be great. >> thank you for that. when you were asking -- i know you're doing the rights and i appreciate that, and i reflect a lot, did i do that or that. in special education, every time we communicate with the parent via any kind of a document, we give them how many pages? i hate anything that has too many pages because i run fast. i have a lot to do all day. i want the cliff notes version. we have to give a short version. they go home with any document, i believe that it's one of those things that it's very heavy.

when i was a resource specialist back in the 1990s, there was a book, i think a 20-page book, and it had a lot of white space and it was perfect. when i joined this position and started working with my partners, that was one of the first things i said and it was in three languages. after that another book that came out by charles schwabb and our ombudsperson just found a copy. we're looking at the simple pieces we can get out there before we do our whole five-year mapping plan. that is something we are working on to get a parent friendly sort of thing. when i was a first year r.s.p., that was my plan book to help me navigate all of the timelines to

navigate. this is something that we could work on. >> thank you. if we could make it available on the website in our language. >> it is on the landing page of education for families. it linguist to the content developed by the special education folks in the past, but there is a link there. so it can be updated when ready. >> did you want to add to that? >> we have a memorandum of understanding with the parent facility in san francisco. there is a conference that is coordinated that is all about family engagement. there are workshops in english, spanish, chinese once a month that support families and parent workshops all the time.

there is a huge amount of family engagement that is done and the process is overwhelming, but the work is still done and we still try. >> thank you for your patience. just in hearing the discussion tonight and the fact that we are all at capacity and this is work being done by the department of education, what are they doing to support us reaching this? is there -- is that -- yeah, i'm just wondering? >> it's frustrating. i think what susan said about the ieda moneys not coming.

we stomped in washington in may to get better funding for all of us so we can do this good work. the c.d.e. -- so our partners state-wide are unified. this is not unique to san francisco. these issues are happening across the nation. so the technical assistance stuff is interesting. they monitor us and tell us what we have to do, but don't tell us here, this is what you have to do. they will steer us to some resources on the web and we can pull from each other. we also have a very active sort of engagement with each other as the selfa directors. we share ideas and best practices that way as well. we helped our partners out as well. they liked our presentation so well that some of our partners will be using the template for

their presentation to do their report, but no one is coming to us with the package and say we're going to give you this, and, and this. this is engaging your community, think out of the box, silo the issue, prioritize, and get to work. i think we're at a critical point to start thinking different. >> it's not to say the demands aren't valid, but the reality is why we have what we have. so i wanted to focus on any advocacy or to push to get any resources. >> we need to put our reform hats on right now and started thinking differently. >> picking up on what commissioner lopez raised, because we're on the policies committee. what i'm curious about is taking your recommendation and looking

at reform and things differently, if there can be some sort of business analysis around what would it take to quote all districts and not just ourselves, if we're part of the a bigger network, what would it take to address the corrective actions. from there, we should raise that to the state of california. the governor has put forward his education agenda and there were some bills that went through the legislature last year that were funding potential education and looking at some structural opportunities and they did not make it through. so i think this would be a prime opportunity for the district to also take some leadership and to leverage that into something -- like you said, it's beyond

ourselves and we're at a crisis moment. we have been for a very long time. that would be my request. maybe when capital advisers comes back to our next rules committee, i like to start asking what the budget process is going to look like and how we can work with our sacramento partners. >> thank you. i appreciate that feedback. that's making me think that we need a revolution, and we can start it. >> i think again we can address this. legislators are thinking about the california budget process. i think we should look to that as an opportunity.

we have been looking at the multi-year plan and how that measures up for our own planning process. >> that's another presentation, and i'm happy to take some time to go to the rules committee. we did go to the rules committee and we will be responding to you, but we are two-thirds of the way through the planning process. our consultant is out in the field. we have a consultation tomorrow. we have a lot to share about what we've engaged, but we're not done yet. there are many community partners that we need to engage with. i know there was some one-on-one time with some of the commissioners.

then we're going to put meat on the bones and look at order of operations for our priorities. we do have some of our priorities popped out. we need to look at the case loads and our sore program. there is just a litany. so you will be apprised of that throughout the rest of this school year. then we will be ready to literally hit the ground running. we've already started some pieces in play. i can't wait for that to start, but i hope that answers your question. it's an ongoing process. we're about two-thirds two. she's about to start in january, but there's a whole plan for it to continue into the spring. prior to that operationalized plan, i'm assuming we'll have budget implications? >> yes. budget is always a part of it, but yes.

>> huge budget implications. >> thank you for the presentation. >> section k, introduction of proposals and assignment to committee. number 1, board and comment proposals. we have a first reading to the board policies 0460, accountability plan. 0520, intervention for underperforming schools. 0520.1, comprehensive and targeted support and improvement. also to number 3, board policies 1431, waivers, number 4, 3553,

reduced lunches. and to number 5, resolution 1911-112a1, the affordable housing policies. can i have a motion to second first reading of the board policies 1911-12a1. >> seconded. >> so moved. >> i see we do have public comment on the new resolution. >> thank you. i'll be brief. i want to thank commissioner moligo for putting together the resolution on having a housing policy. now that the voters of san francisco passed proposition e with 75% of the vote and prop a

with two-thirds of the vote, we now have material to work with. so it's -- we talk so much about housing because we have to, that this -- i think having a policy in place will really help us get on the road to realizing what we need, so thank you. >> thank you. any board comments on the first reading? i'm going to refer the policy to the rules committee and the resolution of the building and grounds committee and ad hoc committee on personnel, labor, and affordability. section l proposals for immediate action and special rules, there's none. section m, board members' reports. before we begin, i would like to announce that i am -- last time

commissioner moliga is switching with me. i remain as a member of the committee that this change is effective as of today. report from recent committee meetings. vice president sanchez has reported out. is anyone ready to report out before i start calling on people? >> we met at the budget and services commission meeting. it was a packed agenda. a lot of it was updates on some of the business service items that have been coming up. those continue to happen. i'm very excited about that as a means for us to communicate with families. i want to state that a lot of families who have i.u.p.s are supporting their students. >> i encourage folks to look at the board docs because our budget team created a

comprehensive overview of our budgeting process. i encourage all commissioners to look at that as well. it is a nicely done document because it shows at what point in time throughout the year we have very budgeting items that come up and with our budgeting and different points that come before the budgeting committee and the full board. i think that's a great way of getting the long-term plan. we spent most of the time discussing the latin x resolution which i'm excited about. and i want to thank commissioners lopez and sanchez were introducing it. i wanted to just inform other board members that while there was i think expressed support for this much-needed resolution and i think folks echoed that as an initiative we supported these

students, we don't have any currently that call out the needs of the latin x community and students. many of the supports that were provided are kind of directed as supporting students with language needs, but we don't kind of address the cultural and just specific needs of the latin x community. i do appreciate the resolution. at the same time, the budget office has difficulty quanti quantifying how we would potentially fund the initiative because we hadn't had a conversation with curriculum committee to outline the staffing and resources needed. i think the budget office did a wonderful job of presenting a potential model and they based it on the ali initiative, we agreed that wasn't necessarily an appropriate model to use and

further discussion was needed. we decided because we felt it was needed and this was a conversation we want to move forward and we do support it, we decided to move it forward with a positive recommendation with the understanding that we needed to flesh out the specifics of what types of staffing and supports we needed to implement it. we wanted to make sure this discussion process is an iterative process and doesn't prevent us from putting it in in a timely way. it's going to come back before the curriculum committee meeting, but then we're going to have one day and it's going to come back before the full board. commissioner lopez is going to meet with commission and community members to get a clear

idea of the actual implementation so we can have a richer conversation at the committee meeting because we're going to have a shorter amount of time. i encourage you to engage with staff if you have questions on that or commissioner lopez. >> thank you. it was actually my first budget meeting and it opened me up to a process that is trying to be highlighted. there is already policy and plans in place -- so what we're really trying to touch on is pulling from what we're using and utilizing what we have, not necessarily starting up something new but having the conversation of what's in place now is not effective and being able to participate in that with the lens of funding was really

enlightening. unfortunately the committee was canceled because of an abrupt shift that came last minute, but many community members planned to be there. we're hosting something informally tomorrow to share where we are in the process in preparation of the december 9 meeting. we meet every month. i'm very dedicated to hosting these meetings. we're meeting tomorrow and then hopefully having enough conversations in between so that when we vote on december 10, we will have all the information ready. thank you. >> number 2. any other reports from board members?

commission commissioner, congratulations. calendar of committee meetings. let's see, the standing ad h ad hoc -- okay, budget of business services is disease, december 4, at 6 p.m. rules, policy, and administration is monday, december 2, at 5 p.m. curriculum and program. >> it's monday, not wednesday. >> it's monday -- >> it's monday, december 9, but it says wednesday. >> monday, december -- thank you. building grounds and services is monday -- is that the week of thanksgiving? >> yes. >> monday -- as of now, it's monday, november 25, at 6 p.m.,

the ad hoc committee on personn personnel. the committee on student assignment is monday november 18 at 6 p.m. the joint city school district is friday, december 13, at 10 a.m. that meeting will be held at city hall in the legislative chambers. any other members posted in the agenda or the following staff reports. number 1, the quarterly report on williams uniform complaints for august through october 2019. and an annual report on williams uniform complaints for 2018/19 school year. the vice president and then commissioner collins. >> so the williams report tend to be pretty pro forma, but i do

have a question. i don't know if anybody on staff is here to answer. if not, we can get back to this later. if you look at the document, there is 11 facility complaints, and nine were resolved and two unresolved. so i want to know -- first of all, i would like to know what the facilities and the complaints are, because there is no supporting documentation around that and what the timeline is to resolve the issues. i don't know, dawn -- >> i can follow up on that and get you a response, commissioner. >> but an even bigger issue, and i've been bringing this up in different matters or forms, the first item is textbooks and instructional materials. i would contend that part of our instructional materials at the elementary level is having a robust classroom library and we don't have that. so i feel like we're violating

the williams laws or rules that are set in place by williams, which actually was part of my first time on the board. because the textbooks are not really being used in elementary schools. if they are, shame on us. so i want us to really look at this. how can we put robust, meaningful, culturally relevant books in our classrooms so that teachers can do the work that they're supposed to do and they're trained to do the in classrooms. can we put that in click -- cim aluminium? >> we are going to address that in the december 9th meeting.

>> you read my mind. >> i was concerned about that as well, but i want to highlight this textbook that i keep bringing is the social studies textbook, i'm hearing that it's racist and teachers don't want to use it, but they don't have materials to supplement it. i don't think teachers should use this textbook, but this is considered as compliant and that is a concern for me. additionally, my daughter's english teacher has a place in the school and she is being asked to bring these back in. if i personally walked into schools and asked, do you have enough books for reading, if we're just counting textbooks, we're not counting enough -- this says instructional

materials, this is more expansive in this thing -- in what i'm reading here. so i'm not seeing that. additionally, i received an e-mail from a room parent saying that it's freezing cold in one of the rooms and they didn't know that was a potential complaint nor did the teachers. so one of the things that comes up for me is that parents and educators don't even know what williams complaints are for. we could go to the educators and ask if the room is too hot or cold. in a lot of times they don't even know they could be filing williams complaints. how are we educating families on the williams complaints. it says we are supposed to post

information in every classroom. when i met with the student advisory committee, they have a whole list of high schools that they say the trash cans are overflowing, the trash cans don't have toilet paper, that's a williams complaint and they didn't know that and they're student leaders. so we can't doing our job in educating community leaders about what williams complaints are for. so i want to work with the parent education and whoever's in charge of that to educate families, students, and staff about williams complaints because they shouldn't have to organize and advocate to get toilet paper. i want them organizing for social justice. so i don't know what the venue is for having that conversation. like, is there a committee or how do we talk about that?

i don't know if that could be put on there to be able to report things that aren't happening in our schools. >> section o. at this time we'll take public comment for those who have submitted cards for closed session items. seeing none, the board will now go into closed session. thus, i call a recess of the pled guilty meeting. resuming the regular meeting. number one, student expulsion matters, i move approval of the stipulated expulsion agreement of one agreement on 2020. number 3 for the remainder of the fall semester, can i have a second. [roll call vote].

>> i move for movement of the expulsion of this student for the remainder of this semester. [roll call vote]. >> the contract of one principal in the case number 2019-100237.

the board by a vote of six gives the board the authority to pay a stipulated amount in a matter of [ indiscernible ] -- the board votes six to give the ability to pay the amount in the matter of george washington high school alumni association a public benefit corporation versus sfusd [ indiscernible ] -- the board gave direction to general council on a matter of litigation. the board authorized general council to initiate litigation by a vote of six ayes, one absent. section r, adjournment. this meeting is adjourned.

good night. [♪] >> i just wanted to say a few words. one is to the parents and to all of the kids. thank you for supporting this program and for trusting us to create a soccer program in the bayview. >> soccer is the world's game,

and everybody plays, but in the united states, this is a sport that struggles with access for certain communities. >> i coached basketball in a coached football for years, it is the same thing. it is about motivating kids and keeping them together, and giving them new opportunities. >> when the kids came out, they had no idea really what the game was. only one or two of them had played soccer before. we gave the kids very simple lessons every day and made sure that they had fun while they were doing it, and you really could see them evolve into a team over the course of the season. >> i think this is a great opportunity to be part of the community and be part of programs like this. >> i get to run around with my other teammates and pass the ball. >> this is new to me. i've always played basketball or football. i am adjusting to be a soccer mom. >> the bayview is like my favorite team. even though we lose it is still fine.

>> right on. >> i have lots of favorite memories, but i think one of them is just watching the kids enjoy themselves. >> my favorite memory was just having fun and playing. >> bayview united will be in soccer camp all summer long. they are going to be at civic centre for two different weeklong sessions with america scores, then they will will have their own soccer camp later in the summer right here, and then they will be back on the pitch next fall. >> now we know a little bit more about soccer, we are learning more, and the kids are really enjoying the program. >> we want to be united in the bayview. that is why this was appropriate >> this guy is the limit. the kids are already athletic, you know, they just need to learn the game. we have some potential college-bound kids, definitely. >> today was the last practice of the season, and the sweetest moment was coming out here while , you know, we were setting up the barbecue and folding their uniforms, and looking out onto the field, and seven or

eight of the kids were playing. >> this year we have first and second grade. we are going to expand to third, forth, and fifth grade next year bring them out and if you have middle school kids, we are starting a team for middle school. >> you know why? >> why? because we are? >> bayview united. >> that's right.. >> let's get started. welcome. yeah. you can be excited. you should be. welcome to the beautiful new playground, everyone. [ cheering and applause ]. >> my name is phil ginsburg. i am the manager of the recreation and parks department. we're so pleased to have everyone here to celebrate what is really a transformation for this playground, a place where

childhood memories will be created and opportunities for imaginative play are endless. there are a lot of community supporters and folks that made this happen. we're going to introduce and recognize all of them during our short program, but i'm so honored to introduce someone who has kept her eye on this playground for many years. as district supervisor and now as mayor, she is our park champion and chief. our kids do not need an advocate, because they've got mayor london breed. >> mayor breed: thank you so much, phil. let me tell you, i can't be more happy than to be here today. i remember a couple years ago when we cut the ribbon on the new basketball courts and there were conversations going on and on and on about the playground

and the next to do something better. the parents who bring their kids here on a regular basis reflects what we see here today. as much as i love. i grew up in sands, so i'm a big fan, but the fact is these kids are going to have a great time. we are so lucky in san francisco that we have so many people in this community that are so generous and we're actively engaged to shape what this playground looks like right now. we have amazing contributors who have invested so much money into supporting and making this happen. our incredible partner, the

parks alliance, thank you so much for your continued alliance and this playground. thank you were jody pritzer for your major contribution to this project. and brian baker who hosted. thank you so much for your work and for your advocacy. the work that you do to raise the funds and contribute to make this possible makes it happen sooner rather than later. so thank you, because the kids that are here today are going to be able to have a good time and enjoy this amazing playground. i know they don't want to hear a bunch of long speeches. i know they can't wait to get started with playing. thank you to the nopa community and the ashbury community for

your work and advocacy. it is so great to be here today to have this incredible experience. i know you are wondering why is sheriff vicky hennesey here today. she's not here to take anyone to jail. her granddaughter is a lover of this playground and we are happy to have her as a supporter, so thank you for your service to san francisco. fill, you say that i am the park champion, i tell you no one works harder to bring in the resources and move these projects faster to get these done so that you have these results today. thank you and your team for the work that you continue to do. [ applause ]. >> mayor breed: last but not least, i started that and she finished it. valley brown has been an amazing

advocate for this community for decades and she made sure that we got this project done. i will say in absolute record time. we just broke ground on this project last year and in bureaucracy time, this is fast. ladies and gentlemen, the person who was making it happen and doing the work for this community, your supervisor, valley brown. [ applause ]. >> thank you, mayor breed. i remember when this was a twinkle in your eye, phil. i see the ashbury council is here. people have come here because this is an amazing park and the way that it was done with the contributor

contributors made it what it is now. look at everything. i was looking around. i can't believe how cool it is, and i'm going to take a slide down that slide. i don't know if anybody has done it yet, but i want to go and slide down that slide. it looks so fun. i have to say that the city is like a tanker in ice. every time we try to do something, it takes that long. this is something that went fast because of community support, because we had private people coming in and saying let's make this work, and we can turn faster than a tanker in ice. thank you, everyone, thank you, mayor breed, and let's play. >> supervisor brown said it perfectly, let's play. the mayor has keys to the city and gives proclamations at the

board and we give away park signs to true park champions. thank you for all of your incredible support. [ cheering and applause ]. >> the mayor alluded to the fact that this was a big community effort. we need partners and friends. government doesn't do it all alone anymore. we need the support. i'm pleased to bring up our closest friend, drew beker. the alliance of parks department have worked together since 2013 or 2014 on let's play s.f. which is our campaign to renovate the 13-mo 13-most-deserving playgrounds around the city. it is a $30 million effort that has a significant amount of public money, but that wasn't

enough to get it done. we are the parks alliance and is the san francisco recs and parks department work together on so many things, including our 150th golden gate park celebration. this is part of that. the panhandle itself was practice for building golden gate park. around the park are 80,000 trees that were planted to figure out what would work best down the road. i'm so pleased to bring up a special partner, drew beker. >> thanks, phil. i want to give a shout out. thank you, mayor, thank you, valley, thank you, phil. the parks alliance is so happy to be a part of this wonderful event. i would like to give a shout out to the civic committee. thank you so much. you helped make this possible. i want to give a shout out.

thank you, liz, for everything you do. also brian baker held an event before this. thank you for you and your family to support us and the san francisco parks alliance. thank you so much. and the rec and park commissioners, we couldn't do this without them giving the okay to make all of this happen. we have partners with rec and parks and they don't get shout outs that much. i want phil, lisa, and abigail to know how much we appreciate what you do. it is so amazing to have one of the top rec and parks departments here in san francisco. you have no idea how important it is to push these types of projects forward and make this happen and that's because it comes from the top.

your amazing manager, phil, ginsburg, let's give it up for him. >> this public-private partner that was alluded to, we raised about $11.3 million for 13 playgrounds across the city. our goal is to raise $14 million, so we have a little bit more to go in order to make this playground and close out this program and have the most equity-focused playground initiative in this country called "let's play s.f.." let's make sure you visit "let's play s.f.." make sure you are part of this movement to bringing this movement to 20,000 kids across this city. it's about making parts a part of each and every community. parks are part of the big puzzle, about keeping the parks part of our story. we need to move neighborhoods

forward building parks. thanks for being a part of this movement and let's play. thank you so much. >> thank you, drew. this playground is about play and it's about community. so representing our community today, we are so pleased to welcome 45 preschoolers from steppingstones preschool. your granddaughter is here, but steppingstones has a spot in my own heart. representing steppingstones and speaking on behalf of the community, i'm pleased to welcome a few members to share the importance of let's play. >> hi. my name is rakoia. i'm a director of a local preschool up the street, but

more importantly i'm a mother of a 2 year old who is up there right now. i actually came here from l.a. i went to ucla. when i came to san francisco and looked at the preschools for work and realized none of the preschools have outdoor spaces or if they did, it was tiny. so steppingstones uses the community for their playground. what a resource to have playgrounds like these. this is an amazing playground just for the preschoolers, but also now that i'm a mom, for communities like this for playgrounds that inspire community and imagination. we were just here in april for the ground breaking, and now it's november and it's incredible. thank you so much, everyone. [ cheering and applause ]. >> before we do our first slide

with our steppingstones preschoolers and supervisor brown, we have some gratitude. i need to do some closing acknowledgements. we have a lot of gratitude for all of our supporters. without their help and support as i said, this wouldn't be possible. let me echo my thanks to the pritsker family. for brian and lesley baker, thank you so much for your support. for the folks from kaiser permanente, they have been big supporters. this weekend we lost an advocate for health and equity and diversity and true supporters of playgrounds and someone who understood the very important experience of play. we would ask you to take a quick moment of silence in mrmr. permi mrmr. permi

mrmr. permi mr. permit -- permanente's honor. thank you. let's give a round of applause. we're also pleased to be joined today by sheriff hennessey and her granddaughter. vivian liang, and then dmitri barstani is here with his mom, georgia. are you here and can you raise your hands? they're over there. thank you, dmitri and georgia for being here today. we're honoured to be here. his memory and gus' memory will live on. i would like to thank niko and marie who helped to work on the

bench plaque that i believe are here. tim sieford and michelle welsh. steve courier from the parks and recs open space advisory. and then to the design and construction teams, you have an inspired design and project. they deserve our thanks. to the landscape project. jeff cooper from c.p.m. services. and then to my own amazing team, the project managers for this effort, it takes a village, karen rupert, brett emerey contributed to this project.

thank you, lisa branson, to your team to make this dream come to reality for our kids. we're going to have some honorary preschooler that is are going to join us. supervisor brown, if you want to join us too. the mayor is going to lead us in a countdown. >> mayor breed: okay, supervisor brown, you're going to have to put a kid in your lap. are we ready, kids? five, four, three, two, one, let's play!

>> thank you, everybody. in the words of our mayor, let's play. [♪] >> i love teaching. it is such an exhilarating experience when people began to feel their own creativity. >> this really is a place where all people can come and take a class and fill part of the community. this is very enriching as an artist. a lot of folks take these classes and take their digital imagery and turn it into negatives.

>> there are not many black and white darkrooms available anymore. that is a really big draw. >> this is a signature piece. this is the bill largest darkroom in the u.s.. >> there are a lot of people that want to get into that dark room. >> i think it is the heart of this place. you feel it when you come in. >> the people who just started taking pictures, so this is really an intersection for many generations of photographers and this is a great place to learn because if you need people from different areas and also everyone who works here is working in photography.

>> we get to build the community here. this is different. first of all, this is a great location. it is in a less-populated area. >> of lot of people come here just so that they can participate in this program. it is a great opportunity for people who have a little bit of photographic experience. the people have a lot, they can really come together and share a love and a passion. >> we offer everything from

traditional black and white darkrooms to learning how to process your first roll of film. we offer classes and workshops in digital camera, digital printing. we offer classes basically in the shooting, ton the town at night, treasure island. there is a way for the programs exploring everyone who would like to spend the day on this program. >> hello, my name is jennifer. >> my name is simone. we are going on a field trip to take pictures up the hill. >> c'mon, c'mon, c'mon.

>> actually, i have been here a lot. i have never looked closely enough to see everything. now, i get to take pictures. >> we want to try to get them to be more creative with it. we let them to be free with them but at the same time, we give them a little bit of direction. >> you can focus in here. >> that was cool. >> if you see that? >> behind the city, behind the houses, behind those hills. the see any more hills? >> these kids are wonderful. they get to explore, they get to see different things.

>> we let them explore a little bit. they get their best. if their parents ever ask, we can learn -- they can say that they learned about the depth of field or the rule of thirds or that the shadows can give a good contrast. some of the things they come up with are fantastic. that is what we're trying to encourage. these kids can bring up the creativity and also the love for photography. >> a lot of people come into my classes and they don't feel like they really are creative and through the process of working and showing them and giving them some tips and ideas. >> this is kind of the best kept

secret. you should come on and take a class. we have orientations on most saturdays. this is a really wonderful location and is the real jewel to the community. >> ready to develop your photography skills? the harvey milk photo center focuses on adult classes. and saturday workshops expose youth and adults to photography classes.