tv Government Access Programming SFGTV November 28, 2019 6:00pm-7:01pm PST
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when does each operator need them? we did wait and receive the cal-train business plan, which was a very similar conversation with options of service and it's a robust, healthy discussion and really -- (bleeping). >> we have to evacuate and we'll decide whether to continue this or come back. it will be an hour before we can get back in the building. so i will call the meeting as an adjournment and probably work with mark and figure out questions. the meeting is adjourned. barrage.
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. >> we call this meeting to order. and i apologize for my voice. please call the roll. >> good afternoon. this is the meeting of the san francisco commission on the environment. the date is monday, november 25, 2019 and it a special meeting. the date is november 25, 2019, and the time is 5:05 p.m. a note to the public that the ringing of cell phones, pagers and similar sound producing electronic devices are prohibited at this meeting so please turn your devices off. there's also going to be public comment on every item as well as
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an opportunity for general public comment for items that aren't on the agenda. and general public comment is item number 4. we ask that you fill out a speaker card at the table there and hand them to me, and i'll hand them to the president and the president will call folks in the order we receive them. you have the right to speak anonymously, so we'll call up folks after we have received the speaker cards if you would like to speak anonymously. item 1, call to order and roll call. [roll call] commissioner ahn is excused. there's a quorum. the next item is item 2, presid. this item is for discussion. >> good evening, everybody, andn francisco commission on the env. we have two presentations today, performance evaluation of direc. the first presentation is a resd
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he is leaving us for bakersfield. the office of the city manager, they pretty much do everything. he's going to be a key member of the team as they retry write bakers field's master plan. thank you for everything you have done, for your professionalisalism, your friendship. our loss is bakerfield's gain, and you are going to be doing amazing things there. i wanted to offer the opportunity to any of the commissioners to add anything to my comments about anthony. >> it's hard to imagine how we are going to get along without anthony. really, you've done such a splendid job, not only with the commission but being the face of the commission and to a certain extent, the department, in the community.
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i absolutely second everything our president said about your professionalism to what she has said already, i would say your calmness, your confidence, your knowledge of the rules and the laws that we operate under has made doing the business of the commission so much easier, because you're there, you have our back in everything that we do. you've done a splendid, truly wonderful job. and i kind of feel bad for the person who is going to replace you. [laughter] because they are going to have very big shoes and a very big job to feel. i wish you the greatest success in bakersfield. i don't think i'll be coming to visit you there, but i hope you have a great start to what is really, i know, going to be a wonderful career in public service.
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and i just wish there were more people like you who are interested and committed to it and as you believe as you are. good luck, anthony. >> commissioner stephenson. >> i'm so excited for you. i'm proud that you are going off to do this great work, and i'm excited to see what happens in your career, because we'll be following you even from far away. i want to thank you for all of your efforts. you taught me a ton. i was already on the commission when you came on board, but i feel like the work you did here taught me so much about the smooth running of the commission and certainly the way that you helped me run the operations committee meetings was just completely invaluable. and during the moments when i would have to step in, you were called off to do big things some place else, i never freaked out even though i tend to get a little nervous around public speaking because i knew that you
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had my back, and i knew that you, with all of us, made sure we had every bit of information we could ever need to do this job and serve the city in this way. so i thank you so much for your efforts and i'm excited to watch you in your career. >> commissioner sullivan. >> i want to second everything that came before me. but i would also just say that as we've worked together not only here but also in the urban forestry council, these volunteer boards often, it's the staff that has a longer tenure than the members of the commissions and councils. and we roll on and roll off and don't often know what we are doing and we might violate the brown act or forget public comment, and it's really the folks in your seat that are so important in these councils and commissions. and having seen a few people that sit in your seat, you are right at the top in terms of professionalism, and i totally agree, it's bakersfield's gain. and maybe you'll be back with us
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down the road at some point. i sure hope so. >> director raphael. >> i want to say, as i think about you, anthony, and i've shared some of these things with you and staff and i would like to say it in this public arena too, that we find ourselves in a time where public service is denigrated, and where democracy feels like it's only there if it's convenient, and that these rules, whether they are the brown act or any of the other rules of engagement, of transparency and ethics feel like they are under siege in our country right now. and that is no one who takes those rules and that role more to heart than you do. and i am -- i think the world needs more people like you who see that as a higher calling, that being the defender of
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democracy, being the person to make sure that the public has access to information in a timely manner, that commissioners don't -- i mean you heard over and over again, you have our back. what that means is there's good intention to do the right thing but it's not always clear what the right thing and the right way is, and we need someone who we can trust and depend onto hold that vessel for us so that we can be the purveyors of democracy. and you are a person who not only is making us more professional but showing through your own actions what professionalism looks like. so bakersfield, i do want to visit you there. i want to go and see your beautiful new offices. i want to watch you in action, because i'm going to be there with you, anthony, all the way, to see what is next and to be cheering you on from near and from far. so thank you for your service. and thank you for showing us what's possible.
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>> commissioner wan >> just very brief, i have to say thank you so much. you saved my life so many times. one meeting entrance, what side off the stage and always ahead of time. so i really want to thank you. thank you, anthony. >> commissioner chu. >> i'm the newest commissioner to i've had the most recent pleasure of being welcomed by you to the commission. thank you, anthony, for making me feel like part of the family and for me being excited to serve on this commission for many more years to come. thank you. >> what they said, anthony, valdez, defender of democracy, had a nice ring to it. [laughter] with that, let's get started. is there any public comment on the president's welcome?
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[off mic] yes, i can do that. i was forgetting. on behalf of all the commissioners, we want to give you this little token. i want to see it on your wall in bakers field. it says exceptional service for the commission, presenting this on the 26th of november, in honor and appreciation of exceptional service for the people and the environment of the city and county of san francisco. thank you so much. [applause] okay, great. and no public comment. okay, next item. >> the next item is item 3, approval of the minutes of the september 24, 2019 commission on the environment meeting. the explanatory document is the september 24, 2019 draft
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minutes. this item is for discussion and action. >> great. a motion to approve the draft minutes? >> so moved >> moved by commissioner sullivan. do i have a second? >> second >> second by commissioner wan. we have a motion seconded. is there any discussion or changes, commissioners? any public comment? seeing none, no public comment or discussion, all those in favor of approving the minutes signified by saying aye. >> aye. >> any opposed? motion carries. thank you. >> the next item is item 4, general public comment. members of the public may address the commission on matters that are within the commission's jurisdiction and are not on today's agenda. >> okay.
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no public comment on this item? item 4. the next item. >> the next item is item 5, presentation of a commission on the environment environmental service award to outside lands. this item is for discussion. >> commission wan will be introducing our awardey today. >> thank you. it's a great honor for me to present the commission on the environment's environmental service award to outside lands. i actually nominated outside lands after reading a detailed article in the san francisco chronicle which extolled the lengths to which the organizers of this huge event have made, have taken to make the event sustainable, including further reduction of waste. at the global climate action summit last year, right? >> yep >> the mayor signed a pledge to reduce solid waste generation
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here in san francisco by 15 percent by 2030, reducing what goes to recycling, composting and trash. outside lands has been a major partner in that effort. they have greatly reduced the amount of disposables at their event, even as they have increased the number of people who are attending it, thereby generating less waste on material. one way they did this was by selling nearly 11,000 of the new innovative reusable cups. outside lands installed 150 water monsters around the site of the event to make it possible to refill these cups, other cups and bottles that people brought.
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joining us today to receive the award on behalf of outside lands is anny farman. [applause] >> we want to say thank you so much to the city for helping us, our friends of the department of environment and public health department and parks department, they really made it happen for us. and as a team effort was to come together and get it done. so thank you so much. >> thank you. commissioners, any questions for director raphael? >> i just want to add to what commissioner wald was saying. i think the most exciting thing for me about outside lands just doing this is it becomes a proof of cone september for other events. yes -- of concept for other
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events. you are work out the kinks so it doesn't just stay with outside lands but we look at how reusable cups are going to be an environment for all of our events. a big part of us being able to pass that legislation is when entities like planet entertainment and your work as well, say we are going to figure this out because it's the right thing to do, not because somebody is making us do it. and look what we learned, you can do it too. so i think that frankly is what makes san francisco such a special place, because we have city agencies and we have our business community as well as our residents all working in the same direction for sustainability. so thank you for being courageous and figuring out how to do it, especially when you didn't have a lot of other models. so we can amplify and scale what you started. >> thank you so much. >> is there any public comment on this item?
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okay. next item. >> wait, aren't we going to do the presentation? >> oh, yes, we are doing to do a photo presentation >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the next item is item 6, discussion of the 2019 united states department of energy national clean cities awards to the san francisco clean coalition. this item is for discussion. >> director raphael will introduce this item. >> yes. so i am going to introduce suzanne who is our staff member extraordinary who was there when the big awards happened for the department. and she will pass it along and explain to us the wonderful context for this award. so suzanne. >> hi, there. thanks for having us here. so a little bit about clean cities and the two awards that
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we won. i've been the clean cities coordinate for the last four years. and clean cities is a u.s. department of transportation program that was established in 1993. and its goal is to place petroleum use. the initial goal we had was -- i'm sorry -- clean cities has been around for 25 years and in that 25 years we have 86 coalitions and have displaced over 8 billion-gallons of petroleum. so each coalition in each city works to form public/private partner chis to make displacement happen. you can see i got off my notes here. and what we do here is focus on electrifycation of low-carbon fuels. if you are in louisiana you are probably working on propane in school buses so it's all different in how we contribute. san francisco established its clean cities coalition in 1994. so the work we are doing here today and talking about today
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has a 25-year lineage within the city of san francisco. each year the coalitions gather for a peer exchange. we get together and talk about best practices, what we are working on and the department of energy makes awards. and so this year we received two. one was for the greatest energy use impact for renewable diesel. and the second one is -- and i'll talk about them separately. so you know about renewable diesel. we've been using it since 2015. and that's our greatest energy use impact. we are one of the largest municipal users. we use 7 million-gallons a year. that'that saves 25,000-tons of greenhouse gas a here. that credit goes to tom fung who is in the back. they did a lot of the heavy lifting to make this happen in
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2015. so tom, thank you very much. [applause] and tom is also on the board of our sister coalition in the east bay. so he's been very involved in the coalition process for a long time. so the second award for us, it's an award for an 8101 educational program that three of us put together. my colleague sac thompson back here who is also a clean city coordinator until last friday when he left for another organization and elana from bay area. we developed a presentation. she approached us and said let's do something together. our unique approach is the material is delivered by city staff with policy knowledge and an advocate who uses a car and has practical information and experience about having that car and the dynamics of these two
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makes for a great presentation. we deliver this in 25 minutes, then we have a full hour to have q&a and that usually ends up in a robust conversation among the participants. and they are really fun and often sold out. i think 12 different libraries in san francisco. and we have recently taken it across the bay. and now the city of berkeley is replicating this program. and we are starting to work with other cities to give them the tools so they can also do the program. so i think that's it. so would you come up and say a few words? >> good afternoon. thank you for -- the commission is very helpful. thank you for the partnership between the city families to make this happen.
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congratulations. >> thank you, tom. >> yeah, i just got to put in a plug for san francisco environment staff. you guys got incredible staff. so working together with them, it really worked out well, because you got an advocate, somebody to drive and you've got staff. and there's a lot of sense that we know that we are doing when we are talking to people, and people trust us. and we have to get the word out. we have to -- we got to go to it as soon as we can. it's great to have legislation that makes it happen, but talking to the community helps. all of a sudden you see the light goes on in people's eyes and they're like, yeah, maybe i can do this. so it's a great thing we do. and my colleagues here have been fabulous. so you got great staff. >> thank you. thank you all. and i would just say that tom is
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very modest. so tom is in charge of our fleet. and it was under his leadership and determination to substitute out renewable diesel for traditional diesel in everything from sudans -- they're not really diesel but trucks and fire equipment. he has a lot of skeptical people when he says i would like to try something new. the mechanics and drivers are skeptical. so tom is careful when he is asking people in the city to make changes. and we were the first. so this was a brave thing that tom did. and had huge impact because, in fact, mayor lee, when he went to the vatican he told the pope about what tom has been doing. so even the pope knows about tom, which is pretty cool. and i would say to elaina and
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the work between the city and advocates and nonprofits, no one can do it alone, and this award that department of energy gave to us, whether the secretary of energy wants to admit it or not, there is great power when san francisco partners with its nonprofit sector to change behavior. and these awards that we are giving tonight are really an acknowledgement of public service, whether it's from inside the city or partnerships from without. it's really important. so thank you. >> are there any questions, commissioners? any public comment on this item? we are going to take a photo.
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>> all right. the next item is item 7, discussion of the mayor's electric vehicle working group's proposed electric vehicle road map for san francisco. the sponsor is deborah raphael, speaker is lowe chu, interim energy program manager. the explanatory document is electric vehicle road map for san francisco. this item is for discussion. >> director raphael, you may introduce this item. >> thank you. it's fitting we are having this agenda just after we thanked suzanne and zach and elani for their work. the electric vehicle working group came out of a desire from moi lee to figure out what do we need to do to accelerate the adoption of evs. we realized there were two big
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buckets when you are talking about e.v.s, there's the city's fleet and the public sector which is far bigger. we understood the department of the environment had essentially no authority on this, we just had mostly convening power. and so along with the city administrator and many other departments, we embarked on a journey to figure out what would it take to accelerate and scale adoption of electric vehicles. we created a working group, a working group of city agencies, of external partners, and we ended up with a road map of where we need to go. and of course like all road maps, there are many people who own a piece of it, not just the department. and so we continue through leadership to figure out how we engage and how we bring people along to make sure that everyone is excited and committed as we are for getting off of diesel
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and gasoline in the transportation sector. so i just want to say that lowell is a phenomenal leader in our department. he has been -- you are used to seeing lowell talk about energy efficiency and other energy issues. he stepped into the role of leading the electric vehicle group, because we needed him to. and lowell is a person who says yes, i will do my best. this is what lowell says, i will do my best. and when lowell says that, i know we are going to get phenomenal things, because his best is pretty amazing. so i'm sure tonight he will acknowledge others. i just want to say thank you, lowell, thank you for your leadership, thank you for your belief in your team and in the relationships that you have fostered across city agencies. it's been a real treat to watch you in action. >> thank you, director raphael. and good evening, commissioners. good evening director raphael,
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good evening deputy attorney. i'm really excited about this presentation. and this road map, like director raphael mentioned, has been three years in the making. so the first thought on the road map is going to be a commercial parking garage in washington, dc. so the picture on the left-hand corner are three direct current chargers. and when you have direct current, you have three globes that are glowing. those are the mercury vapor rectifiers, smoothing out the alternating current coming from the grid into direct current going into a nickel led battery of the 1909 baker electric car. the baker electric car is a phenomenal car. it had a top speed of 20 miles per hour. it's not fast now. but when your baseline was horse and buggy, the ride was extremely exhilarating. it can go up to 100 miles on a single charge.
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it is a much safer vehicle to operate than the gasoline equivalent because at the time gasoline vehicles had to be cranked over by hand. so you had to overcome the compression of the engine, and when the engine catches you had to get your hand out of the way. on the right, it is significant, because that is a page out of the 1913 electric vehicle manufacturer's association book of standards for a direct current fast charger. it's rated 150-amp hour. an amp hour is a measure of energy per time. so for comparison, a modern-day 50-kilo watt charger is rated for only 125-amp hour. this is faster than that. so despite the elegance and the safety and the beauty of the electric vehicle, the electric vehicle didn't make the cut in
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terms of fuel selection. that's because a couple reasons. the first reason being infrastructure. so at the time, electricity was a new resource and was most confined to cities. so it didn't really happen until 1936 and it took president roosevelt to mandate rural electrifycation. the detroit electric, they all had a range of 80 to 100 miles so the operator didn't want to go 100 miles and turn around, especially when america was connecting cities together. those two reasons are the primary factors that played into henry ford's decision to use gasoline engine in his model t, the car that changed america. but ironically, his wife owns and drives a baker electric vehicle. so for the next 50 years, electric vehicle development
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layed dormant. in the 1970s we had our oil crisis and the automobile manufacturers woke up. in fact, exxonmobil actually partnered with chrysler and toyota to develop the first battery hybrid drive train. four chryslers and four years later, three toyotas were built as prototypes. but unfortunately exxonmobil decided to go back to business as usual. but toyota never lost sight of its vision and in 1996 it developed the priuss. it was a great year for reck l electric vehicles. no conversation about them is complete about the general motors ez1. it's remarkable for many reasons. the top two reasons are, one, it is the very first mass-produced purposed built electric vehicle from a major manufacturer. the ford ev1 it was me going down to the bookstore and
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getting instructions on how to retrofit my folks wagon. it allows general motors a real life test of a battery technology. before that, manufacturers focused on just the vehicle. they built the vehicle around the batteries they had. with the ev1 they focused on the battery. there were two series. the first series used conventional battery you find in golf carts. the series 2 used nicole he will batteries which doubled the range. what i'm trying to say is that this kicked off -- it started off the momentum of which battery started iterating and becoming more and more important to development of this vehicle, which eventually led to the adoption of lithium ion batteries in cell phones and laptops to electric cars. and we recognized electric vehicles are going to get to a
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tipping point and had emissions free vision. he convened the electric vehicle working group and charged them with two objectives. one, lead by example and electrify the new fleet and two, accelerate the market transformation of private sector transportation. and in 2017, the vehicle working group produced two ordinances. the first ordinance was to electrify the light-duty municipal fleet by 202. and the second ordinance was to make sure that electric vehicle charging infrastructure in all new construction renovation. and moving forward under mayor breed, the work of the working group is even more important. last year in april, we committed to a net zero emissions by 2050.
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reducing emissions first and foremost transit first. encouraging walking, biking, it's always been a priority. transit first is a policy since 1970, and we continue to prioritize our investments reflect that. more over -- excuse me. i'm sorry. i think i missed a slide. no, i didn't. it's not here here. but had i had a slide, there was a chart, there was a pie chart that shows the emissions by sector. and it shows that 45 percent of emissions are coming from buildings, residential and commercial and nearly 45 percent are coming from transportation.
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the good news around building is that we have initiatives on the way to address that. we have increasingly stricter codes and standards. we have a natural -- we have a move to eventually get off natural gas. we have cleaner and cleaner grid, thanks to renewable energy coming online. and we have initiatives. it's more difficult to tackle with transportation. so i'm back on track with my script with the transit first policy. we got to get people out of single occupancy vehicles and into public transportation, into bikes, walking to sustain. we had a goal of all 50 percent of the trips in san francisco are done sustainbly. we'll reach that two years in advance. so we have increased that goal to 80 percent by 2040. so going down deeper into the transportation sector, you can
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see why the work of the e.v. working group is so important. cars and trucks produce 70 percent of the emissions from the transportation sector. 92 percent of all on-land equipment. so bringing down emissions from that sector is a priority. so in developing the e.v. road map, the electric vehicle working group formed a subcommittee of city departments and a group of stakeholders that consist of state and regional agency, community members. they collaborated to develop the e.v. road map. the road map has a vision. and also two interim goals to ensure quickly reducing emissions and over 40 actions to get us to our 2040 vision. the 2040 vision is -- okay.
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the slides. the 2040 vision, i'll talk about that later. our goal, the interim goal, the first interim goal is to 2025, 50 percent new vehicles so francisco garcia will be electric. and one-third of the commuting done by electric vehicles. then our 2030 target is 100 percent all new vehicles in van fran will be electric and two-thirds of the commuters coming into the city are done electric vehicle. and this goal aligns very well with governor brown's goals of having 5 million electric vehicles in california by 2030. and finally, the vision, the 2040 vision is to make all transportation in san francisco emission-free, whether it's originating in, passing through or ending in san francisco, it must be emissions free. so how do we get there? there is a subcommittee
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developed six strategies that will, when put together, reach our 2040 vision goal. so i'll quickly go over that. so the first is increasing public awareness. this is a very important strategy. by 2020, next year, i will come back to report to you whether or not we've been successful at getting the general public all the information necessary to convince them the benefits of electric vehicle. and also choosing electric mobility as the first choice. that includes having a city-wide public awareness campaign, that includes having an e.v. help desk. that also includes continuing the great work they are doing through the e.v.1 workshops, but broadening them so we can speak with more constituent that perhaps even having a test-drive event. nothing gets better than getting
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into an e.v. and trying it out. the next strategy is to provide incentives. we will evaluate citywide incentive programs. but this speaks more on how to layer the incentive programs on top of existing incentive programs. so, for example, that could be lane preferences. we can evaluate parking policies that shows a preference towards electric vehicles. and we can also provide other carrots that will inform the automobile purchaser to choose electric. so this is the first time and we are not going to let it happen again. we have to expand the charger infrastructure. and we are going to prioritize that. multifamily users. so we have to prioritize, publicly accessible charging stations. to that end, we are developing a
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direct current fast charging map, a master plan where 50 percent of the way there. there's still work to be done. the work has started, and we will be finishing it. we are also underway, have opened up 48 of our municipal parking garages to e.v. charging providers to provide projects. so we are going to expand the charging infrastructure in municipal parking garages. and finally, last month i spoke to you about the commercial charging ordinance. and that's been passed. and so we'll be underway to expand charging infrastructure and public accessible garages as well. integrating charging with the electric grid is our fourth strategy. we are going to be working with our utility partners to make sure we identify where all the choke points on the grid. more importantly, we will make sure that all the e.v. chargers going into the ground are powered by greenhouse gas-free electricity or renewable
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electricity. we are going to work with colleagues to evaluate preference for the electric vehicle charging late schedules. so it will be less expensive to charge at a certain time that also has positive impact on the grid. and finally, how cool would it be if your electric car can back field into the panel of your house, during a public safety power shut off, providing you with resiliency. we would like to provide incentives for direct current fast charging providers to also add battery storage. the fifth strategy is to increase medium heavy duty vehicle electrifycation. so between 2020 and 2025, we are going to establish lighthouse projects of early adoption technology in all major heavy and medium duty categories. we are going to catalog and
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support pilots. we tried it with the virginia -a resource board. we are going to identify electric solutions to our transportation needs. and finally, the sixth strategy is to encourage mobility. by 2020 we are going to have a straight forward plan on how to electrify the fleets, such as the taxis and the autonomous vehicle. developing new forms of mobility, it has to be electric. so what do we need from other city departments? henry ford said no problem is too big if you break it up into small pieces. the electric vehicle road map is a big piece. the reason i have to cut it up into smaller pieces. we don't have to give the pieces to the departments and agencies that are most appropriate. our vision is to have a comprehensive, holistic program
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for the entire city. we may be sitting in different buildings, but together, we are working on the same agenda with the e.v. road map as our north star. next step, implementation. an implemented plan is nothing more than a series of right decisions. we cannot make the decisions in silo. we have been making them with partners beyond our city borders because the 2040 vision is all transportation is zero emissions in san francisco whether it's originating in, passing through or starting from. so we have to cross boundaries to work together, even with the partners in the state like the california commission and california public utilities commission which regulate a lot of energy distribution policies. the road map was checked out by mayor breed in july. so as i mentioned, we have been working on it. i would like you to pause for a
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moment to express some gratitude to those that actually work on the electric vehicle road map. first i want to thank my colleagues at sfpc. i also want to thank my colleagues at s fm ca tim dougherty. i also want to thank my team, suzanne and our former colleague zach tomson. his blood and sweat is the ink of the road map. he intervened, took notes, he made sure all the stakeholders are listening, understood and heard. and this document reflects his thoughtfulness and professionalism the entire way. so with that, commissioners, this is our citywide electric vehicle road map.
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>> commissioner stephenson. >> kind of a tactical question. that was amazing. thank you. and i especially loved the story telling at the beginning. because i think it's great to level about where we've been and also learn from the past. i think that the fact that we've been charging throughout the city is a huge piece of your six-point plan. so our work in software. and in software you create road maps and plans. and there's a product manager and project managers who help shepherd it through and deliver it. and with all of these different stakeholders across all these different city departments, what is the plan for who is going to hold the sort of tactical pushing forward of the project over these 20 years? it's so ambitious, and it's amazing. and i think that without tight reigns holding everyone accountable, what's the mechanism through which that's going to happen? who owns that? >> i think it begins, i think it
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begins with us forming that e.v. task force. i really think the task force can be the body that controls the development of the tactical strategies, the tactical necessities that will be required for each of the strategy. i think the task force will be a very efficient way for decision making. i also think in addition to task force, the concept of having a holistic clean transportation program across departments where we can work together. but more importantly where we can fill gaps. we can quickly identify an hour where it needs more attention. we can deploy resources to do that. so this is a plan in the making. we have a plan. so now we have to figure out a way to, like you said, architect the necessary steps to having it fully implemented and make the right decisions.
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>> more of a question for you. what's the process to get a task force pulled together? >> commissioner stephenson, i really appreciate that question. i think it goes into the heart of a plan is only as good as implementation. and so one of the things that we realized we need is we need to bring on the expertise in our department to lead this initiative, that we don't actually have that person yet. lowell is stretched incredibly thin trying to do all the work he's doing. and so i have been working with the mayor's office to identify a creative funding source to fund this work. i'm very hopeful about it. the mayor's office is very, very supportive, as is the budget office. and we are working very closely with our partners at san fran as well as mta who have a lot at stake as well to see the success
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of this road map. so the three agencies are looking at presenting to the mayor's office a budget proposal for next fiscal year, and maybe sooner, to fund this work. and then ultimately, i think that's not only -- that we have the ability to create the task force, we need people to be holding the task force accountable. we need people, perhaps the commission on the environment, perhaps the transportation commission, perhaps the public utilities commission. we have other bodies that need to be saying, well, how is it going and what are the roadblocks and why aren't you moving faster or great job, you are moving fast. what we found is when we look at whether the strategy -- what are the big buckets of things we know that have to be done. when you start peeling each one of those back, you see that there's a lot of barriers to implementation and success that actually the solutions lie
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within the city itself. we have some rules for construction and prioritization of resources that actually get in the way of electrifycation. and so for us to be serious about reaching these goals is going to take city agencies collectively solving some of these initiatives. there's a lot of inertia so that kind of change. and i think what breaks through inertia is transparency and daylight. and i'm interested in thinking about next year how we had a joint commission meeting with the commission on the status of women. it might be interesting towards the end of next year to think about some joint commission meetings with other agencies that have a piece of this so that we are all moving in the same direction. i just -- it's an idea. we can think about at a future time. but your point is very well taken. >> commissioner sullivan.
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>> that was a great presentation. is that better? fantastic presentation. as an e.v. owner, i don't think there's any material that i've gotten as a commissioner that i've read more carefully than this one. so really great work and great presentation. and some really audacious goals here. so 50 percent of the cars sold in san francisco by 2025 will be electric. what is the percentage now? >> that's a good question. i defer to suzanne and zach. >> [off mic] >> say your name and title. >> good evening, commissioners. tomson, formerly zero emission vehicles. [laughs] right now, the last data that we saw had the san francisco measurement area at 15 percent
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of new car sales being e.v.s. but that's for the metro area. we don't know what the most recent dataset specifically about san francisco. that includes oakland and hayward also. >> thank you. i love the idea, director raphael suggested of kind of periodic check-ins on our progress. it might be a good idea to pick some metrics that we think are important towards this project. maybe it's what percentage of cars purchased are electric. maybe it's the metric for charging infrastructure and just to see how we are doing as we go along. i also read in the report that the incentives are supposed to be in place by 2020. >> that's correct. >> five weeks away from 2020. and i suppose we have the full year. >> yeah >> but do you think that's still realistic? >> i think, like director raphael said, there are some
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barriers to change but i think with the incentives, there's much more output to receive concepts and further develop them, especially if they are just price signals and don't take a lot of structural changing, i think that might be possible, yes. i will commit to that. i will check in. as an electric vehicle manager, i will definitely update you. i completely think -- agree with your suggestion of having even more refined, that way we can really check how much progress we are making in a much smaller resolution. >> i could go on and on. but i'm going to limit myself to just one more comment, which is i think part of the solution is out of our control. it's electric manufacturers and how expensive and how affordable they are. the part that is within our
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control, i think, the biggest piece is infrastructure, the charging infrastructure. >> yes. >> and what is the kind of the current thinking about infrastructure? is it to go to level 3s and try to get level 3s out there as quickly as possible? or for all the people that don't have a charger or a garage or don't have access at home and work? >> that is a great question. i think it's one of those questions that the master plan is trying to solve for. the fast charger are great. but sometimes it's not necessary. but it will take -- it might take a lot of upgrades to have the fast charger installed. so work-based charging it might make sense to have level 2 because you'll be parking your vehicle there for a longer amount of time. but there are other technologies coming out that circumvent this capacity issues. they don't trigger upgrades.
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they are able to provide charging, but they don't require a giant transform, and they don't require new panels and new services. there is software out there that can actually schedule metro vehicle charging based on needs. and that way it's not around -- it's more the amount of electrons passing through based on which car was scheduled first. and again, the solution to avoid upgrades. but the infrastructure is certainly an issue. and fast chargers are definitely great, especially for publicly-accessible types. >> again, if you can't charge at home or work you got to be able to charge somewhere else. that's one of our big challenges. >> that's correct. that's correct. >> commissioner chu >> hello. thank you for your presentation. very exciting work. and i have two questions. the first one is around the definition of a vehicle.
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i'm reviewing your report, and i would like to spend more time in it in more detail. but one thing i want to bring up is in my work, which is very transportation related, one thing that has come up is that in europe, especially the netherlands, i think there were 40 percent more electric bicycles this year than previous years. so i just wanted to raise emerging mobility is one of the categories. i did see a car there. but i wanted to clarify if that was inclusive of bicycles and scooters and whatever else is going to land in our streets. >> absolutely, yes. it does include, all transportation has to be electrified. >> i saw a pricing table about what electric vehicles in terms of cars would cost but it should also align with other sustainable modes. >> agreed. >> my second question is around -- oh, so the congestion
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pricing policy advisory committee just kicked off last week, which i'm a part of. thank you for the opportunity. and i think there's a really, really interesting question, especially as congestion pricing is rearing its head again which is an exciting moment in time for electric vehicles to be alignd with that, so i wanted to stay in close touch about that. >> absolutely. thank you. >> any other questions? any public comment on this item? hearing none, thank you so much for that amazing presentation. great work. [applause] anthony, next item. >> the next item is item 8, discussion of two resolutions supporting climate-related ordinances sponsored by the department of the environment and a vote on whether to adopt each resolution as recommended by the policy committee. the sponsor is deborah raphael,
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