background person for a long, long time and i feel this is an opportunity for me to step up, to do this work. didn't i am privileged to be a person with a disability and i see the disadvantage, either a physical or mental disability to be homeless. as we home 20 minutes ago, i'm a rent control renter and i know what i face is significant as a renter with disabilities, you know. i have lower income compared to people with other disabilities and i'm a woman of colour. so i just think that those are my qualifications and that's my thinking. there's a lot of qualified people who are applying for this seat. i was reading it before i come here and i would really, really hope that, you know, any of us who are qualified to be able to serve on the seat and i will be

so happy. jennifer is great. i've been watching her and she's my neighbor. a lot of people, william, who couldn't be here. and anybody who could serve, i would love it, with all of the qualified people. but if i could have that chance, i would be more than happy to give of myself to do this work. anybody have any questions? i'm so nervous. [ laughter ] >> you're all do such a great job. no reason to be nervous. are there any questions? no, it was perfect, thank you so much. >> and next is charelle jackson.

>> i know it's just passed thanksgiving so happy thanksgiving. i've been doing any soul-food cooking. i have a fasters degree in political science, public policy and i have a bachelor's degree in psych and sociology and i work for connor house, a nonprofit organization. we serve mental health and substance abuse as well as supportive housing, as well as i work on the health and safety committee and i work on the budget committee for connor house. and so i'm here today to get a chance to serve on the committee for our city, our home. and i think it's really important to serve on a committee that's doing a lot and i think that what i have to offer, day in and day out,

services the people that i do service, it means so much to me. i think we're serving them in so many ways and to be quite honest, when i see the sort of situations they're in and what i can do, i can do much more at a larger capacity by sitting in a seat. and i see those peach day and i know their storie stories. i know i can be a voice. that's why i'm here today. i know you have the information about my background but what i'm here to talk about is what i can do for them and i know i can make an impact and i know i'm serious and i hope you can see that, as well, so thank you so much and if you have any questions.

>> any questions? no. thank you so much. appreciate this. and then julie ledbetter was unable to make it but sent a letter to the committee. and so i will now open up this item for public comment. if you would like to speak on any of the items, please line up to your right. good morning. >> i'm with the community housing partnership and i just want to point out that it would be an incredible misstep to not appoint both jenny and julie. i've had the pleasure of working with them for decades now and i find their steeped in the issues of homelessness and also have an incredible compassion and a great moral compass when it comes to these issue. they have both workd with organizations that really understand the systems around

homeless services and are very, very bright, passionate, incredible people that need to be at the table. jennifer, in particular, because of the constituency, she represents, she works with homeless folks on streets and in the shelters and the organization's approach is about listening to them and having them be a part of the leadership and part of the decision-making and so for that reason alone, i think it's important to have her have a seat here, but i just have no reservations. as a matter of fact, highly, highly recommend both jennifer and julie and i think that they would be tremendous, tremendous assets. thank you.

>> thank you, next speaker. >> good morning. i'm mary kay representing compass family. we're so grateful to jenny for her partnership. she's a phenomenal leader. i did want to say how instrumental her leadership is in moving policy, increasing resources and improving systems to a better place for everybody, in particular for marginalized communities. jennifer's advocacy is so social to moving this to a place where families can get in the door and get immediate access to shelter when people are pregnant and changing those policies and so we highly endorse jenny for this appointment. thank you.

>> i'm brian edwards. that was so worth it to watch jenny speak about herself. i wanted to run up here and go,, no, you don't have to do that. there's probably no one i've learned more from about san francisco and how it actually works than jenny. there's no one who has been more patient and better about making sense of that and i've seen how she moves policy through city hall. i've seen how she crafts policy and how she can build coalitions and i can't think of anyone better. it could be a travesty and you didn't appoint jenny to this. there's a couple of homeless people in san francisco who have stuff going on but they wanted to speak on jenny's behalf. she's jenny fin' freidenbach,

appoint this woman. [ laughter ] >> i'm here because of jennifer. i mean, honestly. when i heard this was happening this morning, i wanted to be here because i can't imagine this moving forward without her seated as one of the members of this committee. you know you're in the presence of someone you'll learn from and spending time around you, you gain experience and knowledge and patience and it's been great having the opportunity to work with her. it really has. i know that she is absolutely the right person for this. if you really want the best result, the best outcome and we

all do, then she must be on this committee. so i know you're going to do the right thing and thank you for your time and i'll see you soon. >> hi supervisors. i'm sam lu. i was the campaign manager for our home prophecy and i've loving this love fest for jenny. we love you so much. folks before me have said so many of the wonderful things jenny has done executiv and i wo voice support for julia ledbe ledbetter and julie who has been a powerful advocate, particularly for unhoused mothers and young people experiencing homelessness. julia is amazing and you should

seat her. thank you so much. [ laughter ] >> is there any other member of the public who wishes to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> supervisor walton? i wanted to be the first to say this is the one part of my job that i do not like because we have six qualified candidates that are obviously dedicated and committed to this work. but we can only choose four and so, if we do not make an appointment for you today, i would just say please continue to stay encouraged. please continue to serve this population and folks who need us in san francisco, there will be other appointments. there will be other opportunities to serve and i really appreciate everyone who submitted an application and your commitment and your service. because this work is important. but understand that we do have a difficult task sometimes of

having more qualified people than we have seats. >> supervisor mar. >> i just wanted to thank all of the applicants for your willingness to step up to this incredibly important role on the committee for our city, our home funding. and thank you for all of the work that all of you have done for so many years. it's truly impressive and inspiring and yeah, i would sort of echo supervisor walton's comments about the challenge of selecting from such great candidates or applicants and specifically, i wanted to encourage ellis chu and chanelle jackson to apply for the seats the mayor has to appoint for our committee.

and hopefully, you guys will be able to serve through a mayoral appointment. seat number two, chanelle williams and seat four julie ledbetter, seat six julie. >> thank you for that motion and i would make a different motion but this is an absolutely impossible process. i've never seen a listing of six more qualifiemore qualified.

i think i'll just make this easy and second that motion. but i do personally want to work with alison, then, who would be in my motion with the mayor's office to get appointed because i think we need you both on this body. and so, i will be reaching out today to kanishka who is the staffer in the mayor's office to see if we can make that happen. because i believe we need all six of your expertise on this extremely important committee. and so with that, i'm happy to second that motion, which isn't necessary. if we can take it without objection, that motion passes. >> thank you. you want to confirm, miss williams in seat two, julie

ledbetter to seat four, and to a in seat six. >> thank you so much. thank you. and mr. clerk, can you please read item number 4. >> item 4, appointing two members term ending september 6, 2024. >> thank you so much. and i wanted to see injeffrey morris and eugene bia are here today. good morning. >> i'm jeff morris and it's always interesting to learn about other important issues before the city and i'm here to

seek reappointment that oversees downtown districts and properties. we adjudicate assessed value disputes between the asses asses office and property owners. i retiredded from a 35-career with a firm called black rock ad i wanted to get more involved in civic affairs and i had lunch with an old friend of mine. i've been on that board a few terms and i'm here to seek your reappointment. >> i've had a chance to assimilate the board of equalization guidance, the assessor handbook and i've worked closely with don durand, representatives of carmen chu's

office, city attorneys that have come before us and it's sustained my interest and i have a lot of interest and experienr most of our meetings. there's another go-round of assessed values with the giants and their ballpark. so that's helped me to sustain my interest to ask your reappointment to the board for another fle three years and i wd be happy to respond to questions or comments. >> i don't have any. thank you so much for your willingness to serve again. >> i'm seeking reappointment to board one, of the assessment appeal's board. you may or may not have seen my

credentials but very briefly, graduating in accounting finance and cpa firm and i am a cpa, state of california and i've been working in the real estate industry since the late '60s, 40 years here in san francisco. and i've been serving on the assessment appeal's board, which has been a very unique experience because it has called upon my experience and commercial properties, hotels, retail and including residential and i've served with jeff on a number ofs hearings and we have, i think, an excellent group of board members. there's a great balance of appraisers and cpas and real estate professionals. so i really have nothing else to say, figure you've seen my

information and like jeff, if you have any questions me, i'm here to answer them. >> thank you so much for your service. >> thank you very much. >> we will now open this item up for public comment. any member of the public wish to seek? speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. thank you both for your service and willingness to continue to serve in this role and with that, i will make a motion to reappoint jeffrey morris and eugenevala. mr. morris to seat one and mr. vala to seat four and without objection, that motion passes. can you please read 5. >> we appoint three members, and one member to amendment appeal's

board number two. >> thank you so much and is john lee here? good morning. >> good morning, supervisors. i'm john lee and i grew up in san francisco, attended public schools and i was fortunate enough to go to uc berkley and ucla for a masters in business and real estate. i served for two terms already so i'm seeking reappointment no thareappointment tothat positio. i bring my knowledge of san francisco. i grew up here. i have been selling real estate for 30 years and i live next to sunset 4. what i found aboard that's

interesting in my last two terms is that the argument about price based on statistics. property owners would make arguments on what they know about the property and i'm trying to put the two together and, basically, understand where they're coming from and they're understanding of value. i come from a unique position of evaluating prompt properties ev. on the outside of the street, you don't have the parking and someone is blocking access to your property. and so that's what i bring to the board and to my fellow commissioners. i've enjoyed my time there and i hope i got reappointed. any questions? >> no. thank you for your willingness to serve. is mervin conlin here and yosef sends regrets. he is in surgery, but would love

to continue to serve. i will open this up for comment. seeing none, public comment is closed. is there a motion? i move that we reappoint john lee, mervin conlin, and yosef to appointment assessment board number two. >> without objection, that motions passes. >> john lee to seat two, conlin to seat three and yosef to seat four. >> correct. >> thank you much. thank you for your willingness to serve again. and mr. clerk, can you read item number 6. >> a hearing appointing three members, ending september 5t tos board three.

>> is shawn rigile here? >> thank you waiting to the bitter end. very kind of you. >> sure. >> good morning, supervisors. this would be my third term as commission on the assessment appeal's board and during my last term, i believe i was able to provide additional assistance to the board by serving on different types of matters. i found these casing to be interesting from a factual standpoint but there were legal issue, particularly in the hotels where the issue of intangibles comes up and those matters are subject to quite a bit of legal interpretation.

i welcome the opportunity to serve again and i thank you all for your time. >> thank you tor your willingnesthank you tor your fo, thank you for your patience. good afternoon now. >> i've been an appraiser for 19 years and 15 years in san francisco and i've been on the board, this will be my second term. that's about it.

i'm quiet. any questions? >> thank you for your willing to serve. open up for public comment and seeing none, public comment is closed and i will make a motion to move forward with positive recommendation to the full board, mr. regille to seat one and mr. reynolds to seat two and without objection, that passes. have a great rest of your day. and mr. clerk, is there any further business before us? >> that completes the agenda for today. >> that completes the agenda for today. >> thank you, we are adjourned.

. >> clerk: item number 1, call to order. [roll call] >> clerk: we do have a quorum. >> let me take the opportunity to those who may be up and running this morning, welcome to the san francisco treasure island information and development committee, and let me give a shoutout to

myeesteemmy esteemed commissioners this morning. next item, please. [agenda item read]. >> so please, you don't have to have a card, so you can please come on. okay. it seems there are no public comments. >> clerk: item number 3, conkent agenda. proofing the items of the

november 5, 2019 meeting. >> okay. all in favor? >> clerk: okay. item number 4, parks and future events. >> so martin wiggins will give a presentation of the future open spaces. >> good morning, chair richardson, members of the committee. for the record, my name is martin wiggins, and i'm presenting on parks events andand programming. i felt the need to start a conversation with the committee on looking forward to park programming and events with an eye to some of the recent events that people are familiar with, so i'll run through the presentation and i'm sure there'll be time for discussion

and questions. i'll start with events that people are familiar with. the treasure island music fe t festival has been here for a few years. in dark pink is the area itself and then staging and parking areas are shown. it's a large event, 10,000 to 12,000 attendees. and then, the duration, while it's just kind of a long weekend, there's some set up involved and some takedown. treasure-fest is an event we're probably all familiar with, taking place on the west side of the island, 15,000 to 20,000

attendees, and breakdown and set up, and you can see some areas that extend outside of the actual event. and then thirdly, the dragon boat festival. this was a rather large event, 30,000 to 60,000 attendees. it takes up a large amount on the island, and then certainly takes up space in clipper cove, as well. so what we've done for references, overlay those events in terms of the area they take up and also the staging and parking areas and overlaid it over the future parks and open space diagram. and i think the -- maybe one observation is potentially an

inpatibility with a lot of projects. we know there are a lot of active and sports uses plans. we know generally where they're going to go. there's passive events, such as in city site park where there is not an active plan but large open spaces. so i think it's important to look at the between of those two, what are some events, what are some special events that can occur and where might those occur and just use those as a starting point with a conversation with the

committee. so in terms of larger events, i'll just run through them. events greater than 10,000 people, sports do have venues for sports competitions or concert venues. it just shows what could be accommodated in terms of events or potential people attending. 30,000 for the event or 60,000 standing. comparable to the stern grove festival inside. events larger than 1,000 people but not up to

contemplated to be compensated for in the design thus far, so similar to the yerba buena gardens festival. smaller events, less than 1,000 people, smaller festivals, art walks. so places you could stage

booths, a couple smaller stages, and then several hundred people attending and walking through there. again, the retail street, city side park, particularly some of the plazas there, and cultural park. outdoor movie nights, performances, i think, again, cultural park, city side park are places where we could fit up to 1,000 people sitting on blankets with a stage. and then one last group large exercise is that we're seeing, so city side park is a place where you could accommodate that, and you could have

several hundred participants. so with that, that concludes the presentation. i think it's just intended to spur conversation. i expect questions of things that we can look at and come back to. thank you. >> yeah. thank you very much for your presentation. make sure that we would like to have a copy of that presentation so we can go back and use that information for subsequent discussions. there are certain items there that we would like to really go back on. i think for the public and people that are hearing this for the first time, we do have an elaborate plan, and i think they'll unroll this in a few months. we are looking at the parks. we are going to have over 300 acres of open space, more than the golden gate park, so we

have all the programs that we need to really look at. we are not the only city doing that. we had some models when we visited new york, and we also know we need programming to allow that open space. not only are we looking at the area, but the things that will allow that. so there, commissioners, if you have any statement now to add after this before i open that to the public for comment. commissioner? >> thank you so much for that report. i'm glad that the team is looking at how the spaces that we are going to be created are

going to be used and programmed. you know, the parks and the open spaces are one of the reasons why we are even doing a whole 8,000, you know, unit development on treasure island. it's also -- it's because of the public spaces that we're creating that's going to be open to everybody, not just the residents what are on the island, so we have to pay particular tension to how those plans are going to evolve and how those spaces are going to be used, so thank you very much. i think it is the first time i've heard about the detailed spaces that are going to be at treasure island and how they will be used. and i think that it's great that there's all these different levels of spaces.

there's wide open spaces such as along the waterfront park, there's small spaces that can be used for more intimate events, and i'm glad that you're exploring how those different spaces will be used and programmed. i think income-producing, you know, looking at the spaces, how they can produce income to fund the operations and maintenance of those parks, is extremely important. i think that's something which oftentimes is neglected at the front end of how those spaces can be used and provide income for the continuing plaoperatiof the park. and i think lots of parks around the country are starting to realize that they start tapped into the potential of those public places, and how

can they make them more vibrant, how can they make them more active. one of the questions that i have is in looking at the various concerts and music festivals, for example, one thing they missed in salesforce park, which is one of the most recent parks opened in san francisco, is they looked at things such as music to be performed, but they didn't allow the back for those performances for real concerts to be done, and that seems to be such a glaring example of, you know, not planning ahead of time and not bringing in people who have that expertise so that we can expert be able to use those spaces as we planned, can you tell me a little bit that

and what are the practicalities of having musicals as an example? >> yes. so in locations where those sort of events have been contemplated, cultural park and city side park to name two that are in development, when the parks were in schematic design and as the designs have developed, the teams have retained a subconsultant that specializes in park programming and operations to help advise on what infrastructure is necessary to support those events. and so dedicated electrical circuits that are at a higher amperage than normal that would allow them to pull more power. the idea that there's a certain drivable route in and out of the park to haul trash or to load equipment in and out down to the vehicular turning radius for the type of truck that

would be used, those have been baked into the design thus far. so i think there has been consideration given to allow some of those things to occur. i still think flexibility of the parks will remain paramount and even with those pieces of infrastructure in place, i anticipate we may find ourselves using the park and bringing in temporary -- temporary rest rooms, temporary generators, but the park certainly allows, you know, when we're planning to do a certain event, allows for that to occur with the infrastructure that's planned. >> great. wonderful. and then, what about the -- maybe haven't gone to this level of programming yet, but the opportune piece for small entrepreneurs to have a cart or to have a bicycle rental business. has there been some thinking as to those small businesses that could, you know, put up

temporary or pop-up types of situations? >> operationally, i don't know that there's been a lot of thought to that level yet. i think broadly, those are all -- would be very positive things in the parks, and i don't think there's been anything done to preclude it, but i think it's something that should be discussed more. i also think that some of those events or some of those uses are -- are able to be brought in in places. you find them popping up in places that haven't planned for them. they pop up, and so they're efficient in that way and creative in the ways that they can go into a lot of spaces, even if they weren't planned. but i think they would be positive additions, especially early on, so i think it's something we can talk more about. >> okay.

well, great. i think it's great that you're examining the different uses, and i look forward to hearing more as the team progresses further towards final design, yeah. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. commissioner sharon lei? >> it's interesting that you're thinking of the turn radius and how to get equipment on and off the island. i think that's one of the first things that came into my mind is how would setup and breakdown of events occur? because hopefully, in the future, the occupancy would be different. i think one thing that jumped out at me when you provided the larger venues for the larger events, it seems like the larger gatherings of those more

than 10,000 people are more than in the inland areas of the island, which my recollection is it's all residential there? so thinking about what it would be like to have those large types of gathering that far into, like, the residential neighborhoods. and perhaps it's not any different, like stern grove and whatnot, except stern grove is a little buffering and has some landscape around it, so maybe you can talk about how those uses would be comparable with the neighbors? >> i think most of the island is -- will be residential, and so i think it -- plans those events needs to be done with care, thought, consideration and forward thinking about how it would work. really, the only areas where you wouldn't be next to

neighbors would be in the island center between clipper cove and california. equilibri coincidentally, that's where you have the least room and limit the open space around them. until we do them out in the wild, we would globally need to be careful in considering the timing of the events, how they late they run. i think that's the outside concerns that pop up, for stern grove and day events. i can't say we've done a lot of specific planning on mitigation for that, but i would agree it's something when we look more into the operational specifics of those events, they would have to be considered by necessity because there's neighbors on the island. >> and then just wondering --

because you showed some revenue numbers from past events. just wondering, how does that compare to costs for, you know, for tida to be managing the security or providing any keep of support. >> yeah. i think in the past, a lot of the events have been marketed or agreed to almost as a way of keeping treasure island in the public compass, and i think we would be more aggressive on pricing in the future, but parking lots used occasionally to support an event could produce more significant revenue if they were rented out

to a staging or a storage yard. so it's really been more about creating a public awareness of treasure island than it has been creating a revenue stream. >> and that's what i'm talking about, is fostering events on treasure island that are more unique to us. but i would be going towards more the costs associated running the events should be higher just because there's more parking traffic management we would have to implement, just offering or operating around the fringes of the event, just because naturally there's going to be more conflicts and more uses that we have on the island. just as a suggestion, as you continue to think of the type of events, do think of events

that perhaps utilize the full range of the island's offerings, including, you know, you mentioned some sporting events that are very localized, but perhaps think about island type of events, races. we do have a very unique setting where we have great biking trails, walking, access to water. sounds like there's a lot of collaboration that can be done with existing events in san francisco or some unique ones on treasure island. thank you. >> thank you. so i have some questions. san francisco, historically, they were built, and then, we tear down the infrastructure. it's different. so right now, we're building the infrastructure from scratch, and that's why it's so important that at this level, this stage, that we provide some provisions to be able to have the electrical systems on the ground or cabling or

whatever, even as we're making all the decisions to think about what kind of events go to different spaces. that's very important. if we build infrastructure and then have to think about something later, there's a lot that we can anticipate. i think every resident in terms of treasure island understands that this is going to be a point of destination, and there are models not only in the bay area and even within san francisco, as commissioner lei said the stern grove. they're buffered by residential areas. as you're planning events there, they're doable. they could be done. it just depends on the kind of hours and the amenities. but again, treasure island would have to compete with the chase stadium and all these

other venues in san francisco that are emerging now. so when we get to the level of detail, i'm sure we will delve into the kind of revenue, because they have to be revenue driven. they support the parks, and all the residential areas and the infrastructure that we bring around. and i also envision that all those events will have their own liability. they might even be asked to provide security and just like in all the events here in san francisco. so this is great. let me open the discussion now. are there any questions from audience members, please? okay, seeing none, thank you, sir, for your presentation. we'd like to see you again. >> clerk: item number 5, pacific basin fountain. >> so like to invite the treasure island museum to give an update on conservation and

preservation study that they've done on the pacific fountain terra cotta that belongs to tida. >> good evening. i'm ann scheinman, and i'm happy to be one of the five to presentation you the update on the fountain. i'm going to be talking about the fountain sort of through history. i'm vice president and historian at the treasure island museum. where -- is -- can i use that? okay. visionaries who dreamed up the golden gate international

exposition of 1939 and 40 chose irreleva inspiration as the theme. fair publicists called san francisco the metropolis of the pai pacific. this brochure lists some of the countries that were secured as participants. this building was pacific house, designed by architect william merchant. a group of citizens and an international organization called the institute of pacific relations didn't want the theme of pacific unity to be an empty slogan. pacific house provided substantive and educational cultures for the purpose of promoting world peace. maps for the central feature of pacific house.

the enormous and beautiful blue oval of the pacific fountain was the first things visitors saw when they arrived. its shimmering blue basin was the size of a back yard swimming pool. the very cartography of these maps was unique. pacific house notes that conventional -- noted that conventional world maps features the atlantic at the center with -- featured the atlantic at the center with the pacific relegated to the margins, literally marginalized, emphasizing america's relationship with europe. a u.c. cartographer drafted a new map projection with the pacific at the center. antonio bolivar, a talented san

francisco architect, worked on this project for six months. took a long time to make. the founders of pacific house had long range plans and the fountains was facilitated in sections to allow moving it after the fair. very important point. in this cartoon by sotomayor, the child seems to be enjoying the fountains. he's leaning over the rim of the fountain, looking at the map. enormous pacific house maps were also created by mexican artist miguel covarrobias. this is from a little booklet that sotomayor made. that's sotomayor on the left

and covarrubias on the right. and just to put sotomayor in the context of art, on the left is lucien laboe, sotomayor, and other people involved in the art in the fair in 1939 and 1940. the fair ended in 1940. the navy moved onto treasure island, demolished pacific house and relocated the fountain to a remote area of the island. unfortunately, the navy also cemented the pieces together. it removed there for almost 50 years, where it was a source of enjoyment to people on the island. when the navy aunited statnnou

80s that it had other plans for the location, the navy and the island moved it to museum in district one. during this, sotomayor passed away. he died believing that the fountain was under restoration. in his obituary, the paper called him san francisco's novel laureate. this was the last photograph taken of the fountain before it was dismantled. engineers determined rather than moving it in one place, the fountain would have to be cut along mortared joints. tida is