so what we were led to believe was that -- so in this press release it says the officers made contact with the person matching the description, how many times have we heard that in headlines? the suspect assaulted the officers with a weapon and officer-involved shooting occurred. that's the most passive language i've ever heard. it's a great way to deflect responsibility. and of course, still discovering the actual turn of events. but it took us five days. and a news report and honestly a lot of media attention, to really get to the bottom of this, which was that a police officer were chasing someone who probably had a bottle in their hand, throughout the streets of the mission. and having the mission with use of force, not a good look, sfpd. i would like to see the board being much more straightforward

and not saying this was a specific turn of events. and obviously no one should be left, especially someone my age, who is 25, should left alone to wake up in the hospital without any family or legal representation. thanks. >> can i make an additional comment given that two minutes and above were given to an agenda item that was not even on the agenda? i would like to basically mention that the police also breeched the penal code in denying access to family to the victim while he was -- while they -- yesterday, according to the criminal code, i understand that after -- even in custody, after 48 hours, that person must be given access to attorney and/or family. the family was there for six

hours. and i believe those officers need to be disciplined who denied access to jamaica hanson. i'm making the d.p.a. aware of this complaint as well. thank you. >> thank you. any further public comment online -- on line item 1? >> good evening, everyone. i don't know what i'm going to say so i'm going to talk about my son now even though we are talking about homicide and all the killings that have been happening here and the ones that have been shot, especially the young man they are talking about now, concerning officer-involved shooting. may i use the overhead? i brought this last week, talking about officers and

violence. and i'm saying that because it doesn't matter who is doing it. and i want to tell those people that when they are talking about representation from family members, i wish that same things, the uproar that they are doing about officer-involved shooting that they would do about community violence. i bring this because my son was murdered august 14, 2006. and they have the names of all the persons that shot my -- that were there when they murdered my son. thomas hannibal, jason, anthony carter, marcus carter, one of them is deceased. so i walk around with my pictures all the time to let you know that we talk about these people that are the mothers and fathers. my son had a father. a mother and a father at home i

bring these pictures because i want people to see what i go through and know what i go through and that young man that was shot, that young man had been murdered that his family would be here also. the pain goes both ways, whether it's the police or an officer or a community person. again, this is what they left me with. the son laying on the gurney, lifeless. this is my therapy, y'all. so this is what i come and do. thank you. >> thank you, ms. brown. i hate that we have to say this every week, but the anonymous tipline for anyone who has information about the death of your son is (415)575-4444.

and i look forward to the day when we no longer have to give this number. >> thank you. >> it's definitely horrible that she has to go through that. i think one of the main situations is civilians and criminals or whatever, criminals are supposed to do criminal things. police officers are supposed to do good things. and, you know, shooting someone eight times seems more like overmalicious intent to do grave bodily harm and possibly murder. i think i'm just very enraged at the way government treats its citizens. most of the people that, when we were protesting and rioting in

city hall and in the streets, most of the people on this commission are gone. i just want to remind you that you, mr. william scott, you got your position because we protest and riots to get the person who was aloof to our lots in life, our blood ran in the street, and they were aloof. we protested and riots. they are gone. the police chief with the aryan nation haircut is gone, and you are here now. i want you to consider i have a funny feeling we haven't all gone to oakland. we are still here. we are still willing to defend our lives and our community.

so you are just -- stay off the shit list. we will be seeking justice. and i litigate against the city, i get stronger. >> next line item. >> line item 3, discussion and possible action to adopt a resolution urging the board of supervisors to authorize the chief of police to retroactively accept and expend a grant in the amount of $298,000 from the department of homeland security federal emergency management to purchase an underwater remote operated vehicle, discussion and possible action >> good evening. my name is patrick. i'm the chief financial officer for the san francisco police department.

tonight we are requesting the approval of the commission for a resolution for the 2019 port security grant program. the actual grant is for $298,414. there is a 25 percent local match in the amount of $99,471. the grant funds will be used to purchase a video remote operated vehicle that would give our marine unit the ability to search and mitigate potential underwater threats and to help secure our port security and infrastructure. our marine unit is the primary agency responsible for securing our port infrastructure and for patrolling our waters. there are no similar capable remote operated vehicles within the san francisco bay area

region. for this equipment would be stored and headquartered at our san francisco marine unit headquarters, but it would also be made available to our other law enforcement partners within the san francisco bay area as a mutualial aida set if the need arises. mutual aid asset if the need arises. i would be happy to answer questions. >> commissioner dejesus. >> you have to forgive my ignorance. i don't know what you are buying. [laughter] i think it's a submarine but -- >> we do have staff on hand that can provide information. >> yes, it's a little submarine. [laughter] i'm a supervisor down at the marine unit. i'm also the dive team supervisor.

[please stand by] i have the current r.o.v. i can kind of explain what it is. it has video capability. more importantly it has sonar visibility. there is zero visibility in the bay.

i dive in the bay. unless i'm within six-inches of something, i cannot tell what my surroundings are. with the r.o.v. you have sonar capabilities which emits a signal and we are getting sound waves back and we are able to project an image and able to locate items as in the plane crash. and it helps us to -- a future line item is going to be the dive team general order. it helps us to keep divers out of the water. inherently diving is one of the most dangerous activities you could possibly do. it doesn't matter if it's a real life operation or a training operation. there's a thousand ways that a person could have a complication underwater which could cause serious injury or death. having the ability with an r. r.o.v., it would give us the capabilities to work in the san francisco bay with current. right now the smaller version, the older version is a very proficient tool.

and like a lake or a pond or something like that, but in the bay, as we know, there is a tidal change four times a day. so that limits our operational capabilities to about maybe 15 minutes at a time when the tides are slack. it's a great tool. if there are any questions, i can answer them. >> i have one more. this is more curiosity. i was looking at the price. are we purchasing new equipment or is this military equipment? >> it's not military equipment. it is new equipment. it does give us the ability for example, beside recovery-type of applications, when we have fleet week we will routinely do sonar scans on piers. if there's a suspicious anomaly underwater, we have the ability to send the r.o.v. down to take a look. if it rises to the level of higher suspicion, then we would

contact the e.o.d. dive team to go hands on with it. if we don't have to put a diver in that dangerous type of a situation, it's no different than a canine or perhaps how the bomb squad has robots they will send into environments like that. >> great, thank you. >> thank you very much for your presentation. i too thought this was a submarine. just so you know, commissioner dejesus has always asked to go on the marine unit and go on the boats. she's been asking for 12 years. >> we can arrange it. >> see, making a mischristmas wish happen over here. >> i forgot about the boat. right. >> is it just a camera basically? >> basically yes.

it has a remote control. i'll just show you. there's a camera attachment to it, so like i said, with zero visibility, the human eye can maybe see at best six to 12 inches. this would give us the ability to see three feet. but three feet, it doesn't really do us any good. the sonar is the bread and butter of the equipment. >> oh, there it is. like a little robot. that's $300,000? >> there's attachments that go on. there's an articulating hand that can grab onto things. so in a plane crash, we could grab on to a part of the fuselage once we located the fuselage. prior to that, we were locating the field ladder and we were able to grab onto that and recover that. there's a serial number so we could confirm that was the plane that crashed in the midair collision. so it is basically an underwater robot. >> i thought it was something you could go on.

that much money. >> it can do multiple things. so this older generation, the technology doesn't give us the ability to remotely hold station. the new one has -- this has three thrusters. an up and down thruster. the new one has seven thrusters. that gives us the ability to work up to two and a half knot currents. so we can possibly work for a couple hours. so it's a huge, huge advantage, and it's an invaluable asset for the department and the city and the region. >> any other questions? >> i just wanted to see it, really. it's pretty cool. >> do i have a motion? >> second. >> all in favor. >> aye >> public comment? >> oh, sorry. before we move -- >> public comment on on line

item 3? >> with the department of defense so i'm interested in this vehicle. my question, i think it would be good to put to the commissioners is how long you envision this particular vehicle being usable and so like its life span and whether it's upgradeable. is it something that's going to have to be replaced or something you can replace in pieces? >> that's a great question. the particular model we are operating with has had at least three or four upgrades in sonar technology. you are able to upgrade it. so the useful life span on this is going to be well over ten years, if not longer. i mean, the biggest advantage from this particular -- the newer model is the ability to work in current. and as you know, the bay, with the current, if you've ever been

in a river, that's what the bay is like four times a day when the current is coming in and going out. >> all right. thank you very much. so no other public comment? let's vote. all in favor. >> aye. >> passes. that was unanimous. >> all opposed? the motion passes. >> next line item >> line item 4, discussion and possible action to approve revised department general order 6.03, underwater diving operations, for purposes of engaging in the meet and confer process with the police officers association, discussion and possible action. >> good evening, commissioners. chief scott and director henderson. i'm jason sawyer, lieutenant at northern station, coming here to talk about the general order, revising for underwater diving operations. we currently have a general

order, 6.03 which we are seeking to replace the prior general order, it goes back to at least 1999. there have been no revisions since then. if you review the prior general order, virtually none of it other than the concept of water applies today. the old system has virtually no -- it's a page and a half where our divers used to use their own equipment. there was no real chain of command or any type of medical protocol. i've been diving for over 30 years. many of the years with the department. and i wish something like this would have been revised for all the time i've spent in the water. this goes very well hand in hand with what the sergeant was speaking about regarding the r. o. v. and the concept of there are so many ways a diver can get injured in black water or overhead diving. this new general order at least

laze out a general policy qualifications, training, medical requirements, the personnel, basically who is in charge, the equipment, again, which is now purchased and maintained through the police department. we have so much high-quality equipment now and spelled-out dive operations. and one of the key advances that i've noticed in my time with the dive unit is go back 20 years ago, we did not have a very robust marine unit. the marine unit and dive unit were separate units. now our marine unit is extremely robust, one of the best on the west coast. our dive unit and qualifications of our divers is also the same. if you go back to one of our most famous incidents with scott peterson, if you remember, and lacey peterson, i was one of the primary divers in that incident, and we were not consulted initially, but the other departments did not have the capabilities of doing the dive.

we were consulted, and we went down instead. many days of time in the water to ultimately find and locate lacey peterson. because our unit is so robust, we are called upon by many other outside agencies, both in san francisco and outside of san francisco just because of the capabilities of our divers. we ask that we can just get some type of policy put in place to help protect the divers and the department. does anybody have any questions? no questions from commissioners? >> move to adopt. >> second. >> thank you for what you do. >> getting in those waters -- >> i can tell you, it's a lot different than going to cozumel. >> any public comments before we move for a vote? i don't see anyone. all right. want to vote? all in favor? >> aye.

>> anyone opposed? all right. >> the motion passes. >> you get to play with the mini submarine too? >> i tell you what, we used a piece of equipment like that in locating lacey peterson. it was phenomenal because like the sergeant alluded to, instead of having us down there, if we were trying to search an area the size of this room, it would take days. like you are on your hands and knees crawling, because you have no visibility. to use a piece of equipment like that while the divers sit on topside is a tremendous asset as opposed to you drop a diver in, they stay in 30 minutes, they are cold, they have to stay out of the water for a certain amount of time. by the time you come out your core temperature has dropped so much and you have to come back the next day. it's an incredible amount of divers you can put in. it takes time when but it saves

the fatigue on the divers. >> >> one last question about the equipment. what happens with the old piece of equipment? do we utilize it for training? >> no, you can't have it. >> do we use it in conjunction so we can send one out? >> you can't afford that. >> optimally it would go to an inland agency that can use it because it still has a usable life. so whatever the procedures and protocols would be, ideally, if we could transfer it to an inland agency that doesn't have the current issue. the time i've been down there, we've gone from mutual aid as far up to lake shasta to assist them with drowning victims because it is hundreds of feet deep. we can send a piece of equipment down. and there's almost zero risk other than maybe an entanglement hazard. but hopefully we can give it away to somebody, whatever the

policies and procedures would be. >> that was more of the question. in lieu of the question that phil asked, also ensuring that as it is an investment that we really get the entire life span of it. >> and it was purchased through grants funds as well when we did receive it. >> all right, cool. >> free federal money. >> thank you for your time. >> next line item. >> line item 5, general public comment. public is now welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or d.p.a. personnel. under police commissioner rules of order, during public comment, neither police or d.p.a. personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. individual commissioners, the police and d.p.a. personnel should refrain from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during public

comment. >> good evening, commissioners. chief scott, director henderson, i'm deputy public defender brian cox. i'm here to raise two points related to sb-1421 records they have a legal mandate to produce. i would like to thank the commission commission for its wisdom in asking both departments to report on the progress of complying. i think that's a great idea and is going to help add clarity to our process. the first point i want to raise is about tracking mechanisms. d.p.a. has created a tracking mechanism as new complaints and investigations occur. we haven't heard from sfpd on whether it plans to do the same. as we heard last week, identifying and locating these records can be challenging. some of that problem could be helped by creating a mechanism to immediately identify new sb-1421 records as they are created by the departments. the departments should make their systems operational as quickly as possible, even if the

technological infrastructure is currently in development. with as much transparency as possible to save time and effort later on. my second point is about ongoing public incidents. both departments should publish sb-1421 records with new incidents without waiting for a request. publishing on a online database can streamline disclosure. the public should hear more about both processes in the database departments intend to build. these two common sense procedures that will make future sb-1421 efforts faster and make sure the public gets what it is entitled to. the public should encourage the departments to create the tracking mechanism and release new public incidents on their own. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> my name is sean jones. my it please the commission, i

wanted to tell you that i really wanted to hear out -- hear what the woman in the gray sweater had to say earlier this evening. the fact that she was told to sit down and shut up was rude. i think it's an abuse of discretion not to grant her an additional minute or two to complete her thoughts. think if you will, for a minute, how that incident would play out if put on tv in moscow. what would they think of the great american democracy if they see citizens treated like that? i ask you, just think about it. >> sir, i have a question. who was told to sit down and shut up. i don't recall that happening tonight. >> i'm sorry? >> who was told to sit down and shut up. >> that's what you do. what does that say? sit down and shut up. all you had to say, not addressing you personally, madame vice president, but all you had to say was take another

minute, we want to hear what you have to say. this commission never does that. it's always, we are going to listen to you because we have to and we are going to get on to the more interesting stuff later. that's what it looks like. call me wrong. i could be wrong. but it's terrible. it's just bad theater. people come up here because they want to be heard. it's scary to talk in public. you are not dealing with people who have the skills to organize complex thoughts into a two two-minute presentation. that's difficult to do, to develop over time. so what i'm telling you is you want to know why people don't come? that's a reason. thank you very much. >> good evening again. i wanted to say thank you for

mentioning the anonymous number that you do every time i come here. i need that. i need it to be continued. i know it's repetitive and i keep saying it. i feel the same way when i come here every wednesday that i'm just saying the same thing over and over and over again, but i need to do this for myself. it's not for anybody, it's for myself. and i do want the public and sf gov television to see this and to know that i'm hurting and that i'm in pain. i bring my granddaughter with me when we should be at home studying, but i'm not. we study but not like we should. but i wanted to thank you guys for -- and please continue to say that number. and i'm hoping that if you are no longer here, the next person will say it and the next person

will say it until i get justice for my son. so thank you. >> thank you so much. >> 415-47-5444. is there any additional june public comment? >> she doesn't have your skills yet. >> all right. sorry. >> it happens. >> good evening. >> i'm wondering when and where will the information be posted regarding the meeting regarding what evidence she's going to produce about the shooting, like when and where will that be at and where will you post it? >> do you want to again --

>> this coming tuesday at 6:00 p.m. on cesar chavez elementary school. >> if there are any changes where can people find that information? >> on the website. we'll also post it publicly. [please stand by]

>> closed session including public comment on items a seven. vote whether to hold item eight in closed session. >> is there any public comment online item eight moving into -- line item seven, moving into closed session? no public comment. vote on whether or not to move

into closed session? >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> before we go into closed session, i would like to vote on whether to invoke the attorney and client privilege for those items as well. >> is there a motion? >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> thank you.

>> item nine, vote to elect whether to disclose what was discussed in closed session. >> aye. >> is anyone for adjournment? >> aye. >> can i have a motion and a second, please?

>> second. >> aye. [laughter] .

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challenge. i grew up across the street from the fire station. my dad used to take me there to vote. i never saw any female firefighters because there weren't any in the 1970s. i didn't know i could be a fire fighter. when i moved to san francisco in 1990, some things opened up. i saw women doing things they hadn't been doing when i was growing up. one thing was firefighting. a woman recruited me at the gay-pride parade in 1991. it was a perfect fit. i liked using my brain, body, working as a team, figuring things out, troubleshooting and coming up with different ways to solve a problem. in terms of coming in after another female chief, i don't think anybody says that about men. you are coming in after another

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