better at writing than talking in public. >> my name is paula. i am a part-time faculty member in the p.e. and dance department i have been teaching five classes for 13 years and i was cut down to one class. i do receive benefits there city college of san francisco for my family and three children. i want you for a moment to picture this. i would like you to visualize a dance studio that is half the size of this room and a nice, open space. in one corner you have my student, monique. she is an african-american student who is legally blind in a dance class. i placed next to her sash, a

student from belarus who is working towards her a.a. degree in dance. i also have liz, who by day is a high-powered tech executive and sorrow, a homeschooled freshman and first time college student working on her g.e. on the other side of the room, a cal berkeley student returning to city for dance classes. next to them, lgbtq students, international students completing their ged and in the back, i have a retired s.f. -- sfpd ex-cop. and esl student and faculty from neighboring departments. we are all travelling together, different destinations, different paces, but we are interacting with one another. racial, cultural, socioeconomic and gender barriers do not exist in this shared space. we are in the work -- where in the world can find this happening? we are learning and working together and it is successful.

the classes that were cut were in high demand and over enrolled these classes are necessary. please support us and restore our communities, restore our shared learning spaces. we are a reflection of our city. stand up for your people and for your community. >> hello. my name is christopher. i am a native of san francisco. i have taught film and film editing at city college. currently i have been taking sculpture classes at fort mason and i was absolutely devastated to find out just a couple days before thanksgiving that our classes were cut and he would not be reinstated. i also found out then that 90%

of older adult classes had been cut. so then i also heard that there was this policy that is coming down, this policy of eliminating classes only if you are going to matriculate and graduate. and human improvement classes were being shortened. so i went on to this state chancellor's website to look up the vision statement for community colleges. i got this little tidbit there. it says the colleges are a source of lifelong learning, offering recreation and enrichment and exercise to california's diverse communities his opportunities for learning, training, and civic engagement together make this a rich source of opportunity for all californians. that doesn't sound like it's exclusively for a one track or

another track. it sounds like it's for all californians for enrichment and for general betterment, not only for academically focused materials. this is a community college. san francisco is a community and it should remain a community. please vote for to put $7 million to fund this program. we really appreciated. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> hello, my name is stephen. i am a faculty at the evans campus and i waited till the end because i wanted to give my students a chance to speak, but to the two city college board members, i want to let you know we have been working hard to get these classes put on the 300 classes that were cut, and two the people that would have voted for this specifically said, and

marcus already said this to you, they would have voted for this, but they were not asked by the board. the board and the chancellor. so i just wanted, you know, there is a saying, ask and you shall receive, knock on the door and it will be opened to you. that is where our students to try to do. if they can't do something or they need -- they are struggling , they ask for help. you guys never asked for help. you said an opportunity for do this. stand up and say you will accept this money. we not only have had cuts, we have been halved. our office has been halved in the last few years. you know, we need a change of management there. we have an automotive class and i am a product of city college. a lot of the classes i took got me to where i am. they were classes that i took at

night. at times my work and schedule in family life allowed me to take these classes. a lot of our students come and take my classes. our introductory automotive class is now -- has been cut. the students want to better themselves and move on, they need my class and they need a class on a saturday. our part-time instructor who taught that class, his job has been cut. he has been teaching in our caught -- college for 25 years. his class needs to be restored. he needs to be teaching at least two or three classes. thank you. >> i'm a part-time instructor. i am not here just for myself. with the older adults department , which has been decimated, or the music department which has lost 50% of its classes since 2012.

a few points. city college is a great opportunity for a large and diverse populace, as you have been hearing today. a few issues. city college serves the many and that is part of why it has been targeted. in 2013, the state chancellor's office, in league with the accrediting commission, improperly engineered a state takeover which is never had anything to do with the quality of the instruction at the college, but just a few years, city college lost a third of its students. i think it's 20 to 25,000 maybe. it has never really recovered. that is part of why we're here today. here's another example of downsizing. the state academic senate reinstituted restrictions on course repeatability 10 years ago or so. these are in effect across the

state. especially affects the arts, physical education and downs. such restrictions were imposed and were overcome, but that is not happening at all. that affects enrolment. bridge funding a loanable solve the budget woes at city college, but that is no reason to reject it. please ask for the classes and talk to the mayor and say that you want her to sign the measure when it is passed next week. this is not just about money either. there are extension classes that are fully funded that had to be refunded because they were blocked by the administration. that is tens of thousands of dollars. something his wrong here. >> thank you so much. do we have anymore public comment? seen none, public comment is

closed for this hearing. i definitely want to thank everyone for coming out this morning. obviously we have a lot more information that we need to have a full discussion about what the path forward looks like. it is my hope that the supplemental is moved forward and received by the college so we can preserve as many classes as possible for this 2020 spring semester, but i do just want to say that we are going to be coming back to the table here at this committee to have a further discussion when we have more information to provide to the public so we can figure out a way to work together to move forward. so with that said, i will pass this back over to the chair of the committee, which in this case, a supervisor fewer. thank you also much for being here today. -- thank you all so much for being here today.

>> i forgot that i am the chair. i am so sorry. trustee williams? >> thank you. i want to thank supervisor walton for your attention to this issue and for your love for city college and for everyone's love for city college. all the testimony and everything that was spoken here today. we have heard it loud and clear. i want to, again, reiterate how much we want to work with the city and county of san francisco to apply solutions and solutions now. folks' lives have been deeply impacted. it is very concerning. as a former city college student and s.f. native, to hear some of the testimony, you know, you could not not feel when people came up to the podium and spoke. i just appreciate everyone for coming out and for your tireless advocacy for our college. it has been many years that we

have been in this fight together and we will continue to fight that keep it as a community college. thank you. >> trustee randolph? >> thank you. i want to thank everybody who came out today to speak and provide public comment. i also want to thank our administrators and deans for entering the line's done and being in the trenches every single day. i know how hard you work and i know you have to represent the college here today in a very difficult topic and subject. so i know you are the ones that were sent into the battle. i know all of you and the work that you do. thank you for sitting through this entire hearing and to listen to the public and to us here up front and for persevering every single day at city college. i know you are in the trenches, you are not necessarily the top that makes those decisions. thank you. >> any other comments or

questions? seen none, i also want to say thank you for everyone coming out and also to city college administrators and trustees for educating us on the situation at city college. i look forward to working together toward a solution. thank you very much. do we have any other business before us today? >> is there a motion on this matter? >> i think we would like to continue this to the call of the chair, please. >> is there a second? >> i will second that. >> on that motion says. [roll call] the motion passes. this motion is continue to the call of the chair. >> is there any other business before us today? >> that completes the agenda for today. >> we are adjourned. thank you. is --

>> our united states constitution requires every ten years that america counts every human being in the united

states, which is incredibly important for many reasons. it's important for preliminary representation because if -- political representation because if we under count california, we get less representatives in congress. it's important for san francisco because if we don't have all of the people in our city, if we don't have all of the folks in california, california and san francisco stand to lose billions of dollars in funding. >> it's really important to the city of san francisco that the federal government gets the count right, so we've created count sf to motivate all -- sf count to motivate all citizens to participate in the census.

>> for the immigrant community, a lot of people aren't sure whether they should take part, whether this is something for u.s. citizens or whether it's something for anybody who's in the yunited states, and it is something for everybody. census counts the entire population. >> we've given out $2 million to over 30 community-based organizations to help people do the census in the communities where they live and work. we've also partnered with the public libraries here in the city and also the public schools to make sure there are informational materials to make sure the folks do the census at those sites, as well, and we've initiated a campaign to motivate the citizens and make

sure they participate in census 2020. because of the language issues that many chinese community and families experience, there is a lot of mistrust in the federal government and whether their private information will be kept private and confidential. >> so it's really important that communities like bayview-hunters point participate because in the past, they've been under counted, so what that means is that funding that should have gone to these communities, it wasn't enough. >> we're going to help educate people in the tenderloin, the multicultural residents of the tenderloin. you know, any one of our given blocks, there's 35 different

languages spoken, so we are the original u.n. of san francisco. so it's -- our job is to educate people and be able to familiarize themselves on doing this census. >> you go on-line and do the census. it's available in 13 languages, and you don't need anything. it's based on household. you put in your address and answer nine simple questions. how many people are in your household, do you rent, and your information. your name, your age, your race, your gender. >> everybody is $2,000 in funding for our child care, housing, food stamps, and medical care. >> all of the residents in the city and county of san francisco need to be counted in census 2020. if you're not counted, then your community is underrepresented and will be underserved.

>> good afternoon. i'd like to call to order the regular meeting of the san francisco public utility's

commission. today is january 28, 2020. role call, please. (role call) commissioner paulson is expected shortly and we have a quorum. before you, you have minutes of three different meetings and i will call them separately. the meeting of january 9th, 2020, are there any additions or corrections to this meeting? any public comments on this meeting? may i have a motion? >> to approve. >> second. >> all those in favour? the motion carries. secondly, we have the approval of the minutes for januar january 14th. any additions or corrections.

any public comment on the meeting of january 14th? may i have a motion, please? >> i move the item. >> all those in favour? any public comments on the meeting of january 16th. may i have a motion? so moved. all those in favour?

>> approved. >> commissioners, you all know i attended budget meetings. and i thin take those matters vy seriously and one of the reasons why i come and attend those meetings personally is so that after i do my research, what i call empirical data, i can write about it. what is happening is with our resources, if you are not very serious in what we have, where we get our pristine water from and how we bring it down the

three pipelines which once were full and that's why i mention the name of the engineer. i wish he was in that room in spirit. if we do not seriously address our resources and time is running out, then we will be in deep, deep trouble. now even as we speak, we flush or toilets with clean drinking water. every time i go closer to homes, they always offer me that water and that water is sacred water. but some people don't get it. now, i saw you are wasting a lot of time, talking about the trails, this, that and the other.

that's not important. what is important are the resources. what is important is climate change. what is important is what we have seen already and other countries are experiencing. that is important. now some of you all, and i know all of you all, but some of you all have institutional experience and memory. you have to pass it on to those who are willy-nilly, who give themselves titles like chief strategists, strategists of what, i want to know. where are we moving and what goal? are we going to a better place?

and the only way you cab g can a better place is with your heart in the right place. that's the only way. so i'm now going to the board of supervisors. thank you very much. >> thank you. the next speaker is -- i'm going to apologize to begin with because i won't pronounce in correctly. , mr. mimo. thank you. >> good afternoon commissioners. , commissioners. one day i saw on my curbside somebody was fooling with my water meter or maybe checking and i felt a sick sense to check

my bill and i looked and my bill was higher than the previous month. i call your department and i say this year was use 25% what we use normally and my bill is slightly higher. when the space inspection say, d your transponder not responding correctly and you have used $50. whereas it's normally a $100. so you have to pay for it. so your meter is showing 345 units and the transponder is saying 324. somebody came later on, took the tile out of the meter and i call the department, can you read. now cannot. ten days, 15 days and they cannot read. 529 must be. if i can't afford it cannot afft

immediately, it's a collection. i say can you change the transponder now. no, these are all broken from other houses. so 50 sitting there could be 10,000 already moved from the city and this is a smart meter. you gave it to us and we are in this travel. i wish we should be. so this is the problem, what you can do now. i talked department to department and nobody knows. when they meet, i call the secretary, i left an answering machine message and didn't debt the message back andidn't get a. what is this? ten people in puc in the water department couldn't tell you when you meet and who you are.

so this is the trouble we are going through in the public and these meters start checking every meter, check tens of thousands of transponders and if everything is wrong, change the system tomorrow, so please fix this problem. i gave it to you in write, this bill, which is on the screen, as well as the details of what happened. and please look into it. thank you very much. >> well, for the department, i truly apologize. looking at your bill, i mean, i would be astounded. so help me in terms of what we can do about this immediately. >> we'll definitely look into it and see what the circumstances are, but we do allow a payment plan if we determine that the amount used was more than -- the

bill is more than they can afford and so they have a payment plan. first of all, to find out a situation and we'll back to them. >> i appreciate them. so you will give me a call somehow? thank you very much, i appreciate that. thank you. >> again, apologies. ok, any other public comment on this item? >> item 5 is communications. commissioners, any comment? no. moving along, the next item. >> item 6 is recognition of mr. carlos for his 44 years of service to the city and county of san francisco with 38 years of service to the san francisco utility's commission. >> well, first of all, i would like to call carlos decobo up at

the podium. [cheers and applause] >> can you now give us the outcome of the budget? [ laughter ] >> just joking. when a veteran employee retires, there's mixed feelings. i think first of all we're happy that the person will live a happy life at home with his life and kids, but also with great sadness to see a person that meant so much to the department that leaves a void in our organization. and with carlos, it's going to be a big void. and carlos' case, he has served the city for 44 years, 44 years.

i'm jealous, 44 years and 38 of those years with the puc. his outstanding work resulted in his promotion to budget director in 1997 which was way back when we had no water and we had a lot of issues and we just separated from muni, the anson moran years. [ laughter ] >> sorry about that. it gives me great pleasure to have worked with carlos when i came over to the puc. i can say that he's an outstanding financial and physical manager who contributes vastly to the success of the water movement programme. carlos vetted all of the compell

projects and has tremendous knowledge and skill and when we needed money, we would say, where is carlos. so carlos will officially retire on august 23rd, 2019. however, he returned to the agency as a prop f, employee, to help develop our budget for the next two years which shows how dedicated he is to this agency. so you coulhe could have left ue wanted to do one more cycle. so i probably need one more psych example we macycle so we . [ laughter ] >> carlos, with deep gratitude, i wanted to thank you from the bottom of my art and the agency'heart and you meanso muc. i can't put it into words. so thank you for your service and then i'll turn it over to

the commission president. >> exactly. well, carlos, to you, this is a very personal recognition of you, because i remember back, it was my second meeting of the commission in march of 1997. and for some reason, i thought we were dealing with the budget, but maybe you can help me with that. why were we dealing with the budget in march? my r is such. recollection is such and ihad t question i ever asked on this commission. and it had to do with a ratio. and our meetings were at 11:55 market street, which actually was a venue i liked very much because we're close to one another's staff and the commission.

close meaning physically close. and i remember you went out to find out the answer at your office, your desk and came back and ever since then, i had this vision of you, whenever there was a question financially, i looked to you for the answer and this always remains, it's going to be very difficult and it has because you have already retired. but look out and not see you there to answer a very important question. so as i said, it's a personal thank you for your service and your wise intelligence. so congratulations. >> thank you, commissioner. >> i have not worked with you long, but anyone who dedicates and is that exited to an agency and to our city, i have to thank

you. i have to thank you very much for all of that, because it takes a lot to stay anywhere that long and especially in an agency that grows and grows and gets bigger but your dedication to our city is one that is exemplary and thank you so much for that. >> thank you, commissioner. >> one of my roles these days is to remember the archaic bits of history and somebody comes along who is part of the old esoterismestestreaches of histo. we first knew each other at the district attorney's office. i was doing budget work and carlos was a forensic's accountant in the special prosecution's use the knit uniti came here, carlos was my second hire and probably my most durable. [ laughter ]

>> while i appreciated then and now most is the quality of the man. carlos does it job, he dus doest quietly and as near as i can tell, nobody is involved in that and he gets it done. he's been doing that for 38 years. that's a tremendous accomplishment and a tremendous gift to the city. and i want to thank you and i know this whole commission wants to thank you, as well. we should also recognise some of the folks who are here, if i might. >> certainly. >> susan liale, ed harrington, former commission secretary jacksonville tompson is here and if i missed anybody, i'm sorry for i that, but we appreciate yr

presence, as well. >> thank you for noting that. well, we've heard a lot about your activities and your commitment to date and what i am just so pleased about is that now you will be able to take some time to be with your family, to do the things that, perhaps, you might not have been able to do because you've been working so hard these many years. and i just want to wish you well and encourage and urge you to take some time, travel if you can, see the city in ways that you haven't before from this building, walk the streets didn't do whatever yoanddo whate retirement days because it's a special time and i wish you could go in your retirement and have a lot of joy and peace in these days after all of your hard work. so thank you. >> thank you. >> and i know that we have some folks in the audience that would like to speak.

susan liale. >> carlos, as a rate payer, as native san francisco and formal general manager, thank you for your service. i was always told the way to be better is to higher people that are a lot smarter than you are and andy, and commissioner moran, you beat me to it with someone like carlos. and so i just want to say thank you. >> thank you. >> you really did a great job, but i think commissioner moran, when you spoke about the quality of the man, that's what comes across, carlos. so thanks again.

>> any other public comment? >> when i heard carlos was leaving i thought i had to come here and make sure city hall was still standing. [ laughter ] >> good afternoon. i joined the andy moran, carlos show a couple years after they were starting, about 35 years ago. when you're new and try to meet feel and try to figure out what's going on, it's hard. carlos and his team were there. carlos took me under his wing, taught me about the city and puc and i will always remember their kindness. we had lunch everyday for years, just working through all of this stuff. the other part about carlos is, obviously, he's competent. and i remember a phone call one time when i was fairly new and carlos was talking to them. the process is to ask a mayor for the budget and they cut some things and you move on and

carlos was able to answer like every single question they were asking, about muni, water, hechi, maybe the same discussion you were having with him, commissioner cane. and after he finished on, i said carlos, how do you know all of that and he gave me a nice smile and made me realize that carlos knows a lot about a lot of things and knows generally what needs to happen and generally the board and what analysts wanted to hear. he was getting what was probably true but not specifically accurate on a lot of those things. [ laughter ] >> certainly really good and quite sufficient to make the budget happen for us and that taught me a lot about how to work things through in san francisco, too. [ laughter ] >> so carlos, i wish you well this retirement and have as much fun as i do. [ laughter ] >> well done. any other public comments?

>> yes, i'm a cryer, so hopefully i don't. so you've heard some of the statistics about carlos and his service to the city. i think what i rcm really wanteo focus are some of the qualities. we joined in 2001 when i joined as a financial planning director and we were peers and i made a lot of mistakes and carlos was helpful at letting me know. [ laughter ] >> but he has so many qualities that i admire and respect and one of them is his commitment to impeccable stewardship. folks know carlos throughout the organization as a fixer. you know, when you have problems with the budget, he comes and helps you figure it out. but he is also an impeccable steward and knows that the funds

we deal with are rate pairer funds and does not have any problems picking up on half of the rate payers and so i admire that about him. i admire how he connects and cares about with people. it's at the core of his leadership which is silent, non- egotistical and i hope we stay in touch. >> i have a problem cla makes froproclamation fromthe mayor o.

therefore it be resolved that i, mayor london bree, on this occasion of carlos' retirement from city service hereby proclaim january 28th, 2020 as carlos decobo day in san francisco. [cheers and applause] >> i, too, have something to add to that, a resolution from this commission. i don't have it, but it's somewhere -- [ laughter ] >> but i have the last paragraph. on this occasion of carlos' retirement, we will finally remember and greatly miss impeccable professionalism his graciousness, his generous mentoring of others over the years and most of all, his

integrity. it is with tremendous pride that this agency expresses to you war carloswar,carlos, our very bestl as our deepest gratitude, congratulations and affection to you. >> thank you. >> and lastly, the greatest honor of them all is the honor that the general managers gives you. you know, it's sort of the same theme, but i just wanted to tell a little story, i go to the gym at the ymca and i try to get there by 5:30. and some days when i drive down to the embarcadaro, i will see

carlos running in the morning. and he loves to run. i know that now running, you're trying to do other things in your life, but i want you to really enjoy your retirement. do the things you love. like ed harrington and others, because you worked hard and you need to spend the rest of the time with your family to really enjoy it. so with that, i want you to come up here, take pictures with all of your proclamations and with the commission. i would like to present you with the water meter cover, kind of heavy. so hopefully you have some people to help you carry all this stuff.

[ laughter ] >> he has to tell the truth now. >> commissioners, i'm truly honored. thank you very much and this is very special for me. really grateful that i was able to spend all of my professional career, basically, serving the puc. over the years, i've met wonderful people i work with and those people i will always treasure and that's what made the difference to me staying in

that job, the people that i was surrounded by, the people love me, the people next to me and below me. it didn't matter. i was able to work at all levels and it was a joy. i would like to recognise my life, laura. [cheers and applause] her understanding and support over the years. i know i came home sometimes where i'm not sure i wanted to talk to her. [ laughter ] >> but she stood by me. also i want to recognise commissioner moran because you opened a door for me at the puc. thank you very much. ed, susan, harlen, you provided leadership and guidance which it gave me a motivation to continue working. eric and charles, you both mentored me and at the same time you had a trust in me. and, of course, you made this possible. thank you very much.

and last but not least, is the finance bureau staff, you were my big supporters and i really truly wouldn't be here if it had not been for you, especially the budget team. thank you very much. appreciate it. [cheers and applause] >> so with that, we move into the report of the general manager. >> wow! so on the report is a local renewable energy report, my

kind. good afternoon, i'm the director of the clean power program. i'm here as a part of the report of the general manager today to present work that our power enterprise has undertaken to develop a draft, clean power sf renewable energy report. and if i could have the slides, thank you. i've got a number of slides here

that i'll review and i'll cover some background on this report. the method taken to identify candidate sites for local, renewable opportunities, our findings and the next steps. and this report is part of a larger planning process that we're engaged in right now for clean power sf and that's the integrated resource plan which we've reported to you previously. eventually, with capital funding approval, the high candidate projects identified in this process will be evaluated further and preliminary design work will be undertaken. so that candidate projects that continue to show value and constructability will be pursued through the capital planning process.

under state law, the san francisco puc must complete an integrated resource plan for clean power sf every two years. in this plan, we model a range of supply and demands in areas and sensitivities. the objective is to develop the least cost, best fit portfolio of electricity supply that meets program goals over a 20-year period including local development. for example, the plan that we're working on will analyze and propose a mix of electricity, resources to support meeting the city's goal of having a 100% renewable energy supply by 2030. the integrated resource plan analysis allow for a better understanding of the cost and energy delivery impacts including a range of resources, but also the local projects that we've looked at in this report.

and integrating that into a total portfolio for clean power sf. of course, local renewable energy development has long been a part of san francisco's clean energy initiatives. the board of supervisors urged the san francisco puc to develop this report, focused on developing cost-effective projects on city property without increasing costs to repairs by 2030. the local renewable energy report findings inform our state required irp and ultimately our capital plan. we'll be bringing you clean power sf's first capital plan at the power budget workshop this thursday. and, of course, the sf puc has

been investing on city projects in renewable project for a long time. the puc has developed 23 renewable projects to date, including this building, city hall, totaling 8.2 megawatts of solar power with $27 million invested and that's revenue of the hedge hechi program invested into these projects and there's battery storage on the way. so that's a little bit of context. now let's talk a little bit about how we approach this plan and what we found. we've structured our work around three project categories that were analyzed for cost effective

development, in city, city-owned sites, regional city-owned sites and then sort of a catch-all of other opportunities in and near san francisco. this went beyond the request board of supervisors. sites were evaluated for suitability to develop within five to ten years and candidate sites were those that were came capable of exporting power to the grid and had no readily identified major barriers to development. and again, we're looking at a five-to ten-year window here. the candidate sites are rated and the high suitable rating means the site is worth further time and resources, further planning and analysis to determine whether a renewable project should be implemented at the site and funds requested.

if yoa medium suitability ratins assigned to sites where we know a barrier will need to be addressed before we spend any more time on renewable development. so, for example, structural upgrades to some of our reservoirs would be an example of that seen through here and low suitability sites were those too small or had obstacles to development and the use of the energy to serve clean power sf. for electric resource planning and procurement, we have defined local as the nine county bay area region and this approach allows us to provide a preference for projects developed within our bay area. and it provides access to increased resource diversity, so

as you can see from the map here, it allows us to access wind, energy resources and geothermal resources that can't be developed within san francisco. and it allows for larger project opportunities, improving the scale economies of a project and lower cost of construction than may be available in the san francisco-only projects. taking a regional approach provides the opportunity to balance what are higher cost sn francisco projects with lower cost projects, providing economic investment in the san francisco bay area, but also within the city. this balancing will also help to clean power sf maintain power affordability and cost competitiveness which is critical to our success. let's look at the cost data for

resource types and sizes. this chart that we developed shows a range of project technologies and costs along the xaxis, we've grouped them in locations. on the far left of the scale are larger utility scale projects, so represent be, for example, solar or wind within the state of california. the middle segment is projects in the nine bay area and the far right segment would be in-city local projects. the blue bars represent the cost ranges we've identified for projects of those technologies and locations. anon a per megawatthour of ener.

this is the electricity portfolio so that red line across which is 55 to $60 per megawatt hour and you can see the technology costs compare to that average. so i think the message here is we have to get the mix of resources and locations right in order to maintain affordability. and this slide helps to further that point a little bit. so there's this trade-off between cost and local energy and the amount of local energy that can be procured while still maintaining the average supply lost. this chart shows that if we procure local projects at an average of $80 a megawatt hour, which is on the far left side of this chart, the costs of the resources are on the bottom, the x axis, if you're reading this. so $80 on the far left side and

that says that we can indicate local content, up to 30% of our supply portfolio without increasing our average supply costs. the higher the local costs that we mix into our portfolio, as we move along the horizonal access, decreases the total percentage that we can procure without increasing our cost repairs. so that red bar across the top represents stability in our portfolio. as the cost increases across the axis, we can incorporate less of it and it's a simple concept. we want to emphasize this idea of trade-offs and put this in the context of our portfolio. >> a lot of information. so jus just if i understand thi,

because part of this is the local versus regional and the nature of the resource, right? so if the resource cost goes down, then that would change the axis, making the local content cheaper, potentially? >> potentially, and that's a part of the reason we have the sale. maybe you're getting at is the blue area. so the blue area -- the green area is the local content and the blue area is the rest of the portfolio. and if the rest of the cost of the -- the rest of the portfolio came down, then that would allow us also to have more local or reduce or rates, right? >> so another way look at it is a weighted average. so if you want to maintain the current price and not raise our

price because we're fair foe and people stop opting out and that's what we want to protect and if we're trying to beat pg & e, how can we do that? and if we are able to do regional and state-wide content at a price that we're seeing now, this is how much local that we can afford given the price. now if the local content price goes down, then we can do more local but if it goes up, we would have to do less because we don't want to bump and make our program more expensive than pg & e. >> but, the local content piece is contingent on the local build-out, more or less, because we won't get more local content unless we create more local content and that will increase the price. >> well, another way say it is

that, if you have a certain price and then you have to say, well, if i do this project, it's x amount of dollars, you know, can we actually do that with the rest of the projects without raising the price? that's how we would look at it. and so we probably would do some projects but not a lot, unless the price of those options go down. and then we would do more. and so the theme that we're hoping is that a lot of this technology will keep going down and even the regional and state-wide, if that even goes down, then we can actually do more of the local stuff. and we want to do local. mine, if wif we had a choice, wo a lot of local but we don't want people to pay more than pg & e. >> i appreciate keeping in mind that one of the real goals this local build-out, local jobs

around clean energy, right? >> and we wanted to include this to really get at that idea of integrating all of the resources and what that means to our cost, right, and what the some of the trade-offs are. it might help to take a closer look at the specifics and some of the costs that we identify or estimate. so staff evaluated 132 in-city sites across multiple city agencies. the dots on the map here represent those sites. the bigger the dot, the larger the generating capacity of the project and the dot colour representing the clean power suitability rating. green being high, red being low and yellow being medium. and then you can see, too, the distribution of the sites review bid reviewed by a city agency oe

table. and so driving a bit further into our methodology, our first screen, we implemented a number of screens to get through the 132 sites. so the first seen was prioritizing sites that could support projects with more than 250 kill lo250 kill250 kill lo2. the remaining sites were identified to identify potential risks and suitability for serving clean power sf. city agencies were contacted to determine their preferences for hosting a project to support clean power sf and to learn more about site details and their plans, for example, their capital plan. analysis was conducted to determine potential on-site

generation and suit abilityabily assignments were assigned. so we'll drill deeper on that part of it. these are the site evaluation factors that we considered. we looked at really a number of risks to inform the suitability rating. we looked at structural improvements that might be required on the site in order to support a project. we looked at potential environmental impacts. we looked at risks to the asset, so, for example, one issue that we find in the port area is corrosion due to the marine air. and we also looked at technical export implications and that's exporting to the grid, so there are certain parts, actually, of the distribution system in san francisco where you can't export to the grid.

for safety and operational reasons. we looked at other limitations on site usage and so the host agencies on-site demand more than we produce from the project. if so, then we flag that for serving that customer rather than serving clean power sf. we also looked at potential contractual issues of the site. we reached out to agencies to understand the preferences i indicated before and then, finally, we analyzed the cost of the projects. >> excuse me, could you go back over, if they generate more, that you look at it differently? could you explain that? >> so the city sites are served

by public power utility and not clean power sf customers. so really, what we're talking about what this analysis is using city property and buildings as hosts to generate electricity and deliver it into the grid to serve the clean power sf program, a different set of rate pairers. payers. if the site has sufficient demandedemand to use that electy to be used, it's a different power to the site to just consume it behind the meter, rather than deliver it to a third party like another program like clean power sf. >> can you give an example? >> so when you generate behind the meter, you might offset your own electricity usage, so you might avoid a bill, a payment to hedge power and another arrange

tharrangement would be the hedge power delivers the resource and the energy is used more efficiently behind the meter and there's fewer losses. when you transform the power and deliver it to the grid, you occur additional losses so there's efficiency issues there, as well. >> so, for example, like a treasure island, right, that's a hedge customer currently and if they were could develop additional power and then they continued on with their development of the island, which is theoretically going to contain a lot of housing and retail and whatnot, they would use the power that they've developed to power those facilities, right, rather than than shipping any of that additional -- >> that's the basic idea, yes. you use it and consumer it on site rather than sort of dropping it on the other side of your electricity meter and shipping it to clean power sf. ultimately, the electronics just

flow into the system, but it would offset other supply needs that clean power sf would have, so that would reduce, for example, the energy from a thi third-party contract for the clean power sf program. our findings for city-owned sites is that we identified 14 as medium to high suitability for supply and clean power sf. and that comes out to 9.3 megawatts of high suitability, projects and 16.6 megawatts. you can see the cost range from the energy from these projects is between 79 and $159 a

megawatt hour and it is expanding to the regional city-owned sites and there were six sites viewed and three met medium to high suitability ranking and ther we're estimati0 megawatts capacity as high suitability and four as medium. so there are smaller sites along with a larger one. and you can see the impact of the scale on the average cost being between 42 and $104 a megawatt hour. >> my question is, what percentage would you put on the two, the in-city and regional? >> what percentage? >> what percentage of total? >> of total, of what we looked at? >> in terms of what it's going to produce to us?

>> i need to come back to you on what the contribution of the projects would provide in terms of total energy. it goes as high as $150 across the range and the medium suitability sites have issues that would need to be addressed before we move forward with the project. for example, structural reinforcement of the building.

and these are the regional sites. the lower cost regional projects can help balance the higher cost in-city projects and support an overall higher bay area region renewable content. some other opportunities for developing renewable energy resources that we found include off-shore wind. this is the installation of wind turbins off the coast in the water and this hasn't been done yet on west coast and so this is an emerging application of wind energy. it's been deployed pretty significantly in europe and the u.s. just recently developed its first project on the east coast near rhode island. in this application, the wind turbines would be installed on

floating platforms out in the sea. let's see, we also are taking a close look at the development of disadvantaged community solar programs. california state cap and trade funding has been made available to community-choice aggregation programs to develop green tariff and community solar programs for disadvantaged communities and about two megawatts of potential funding has been allocated to clean power sf. to subsidize suh a program. so we're analyzing that further and that's something we've identified as promising for further work. we're also analyzing the development of a feed-in tariff and under a feed-in tariff, clean power sf would pay building owners in san francisco to feed electricity into the grid.

so very similar to what we've been talking to with city properties, but this would be targeted to private properties. we're still conducting analysis on the potential o potential ofa program but initial results indicate two to ten mea megawatf rooftop solar could be cost effective in ten years from such a program. so what are the next steps? we intend to continue planning and development of the high suitability candidate sites. those amount to 49 megawatts to new solar and 40 megawatts of battery storiage. we'll be coming back to you on thursday with the clean power sf capital plan and that will support additional planning and anticipates project construction. the early years of the plan propose funding, additional planning with the latter years

supporting cost of asset ownership. and meanwhile, we'll be continuing to keep an eye on the medium suitability sites to positioourselves to partner witt agencies to be high suitability sites. >> you mentioned if a site is producing more than it uses, is the battery storage a possibility? >> it is, absolutely. so we've been doing a lot of work, looking at battery storage and it's a technology with a number of different applications, not all of which you can do at the same time. so for the sites that we looked at for this plan, we were looking at using the battery storage to shift the energy production from the solar plants from the middle of the day to the evening or early evening.

, where energy is now getting much more costly. and we've been seeing, because so much solar is coming out of the grid that cost of energy in the middle of the day is coming way down. so that's a way to also balance it against our customer's demand. >> so if we were looking at using, say, city hall, we could have the battery storage somewhere in the basement and would that be a program that you would consider or something like that? >> that's really a different application, most likely. so i mentioned the shifting of energy. another application would be using the battery to provide back-up power. and if you pair it with a solar project, you can provide clean back-up power in the case of a grid emergency, yeah. just a couple more here. so we're not proposing to do any further work at this time on low

suitability sites and as is our practise in power, we'll keep an eye on those sites for the potential of any of these ratings to change. we're sort of always doing that with our city sites. we're also proposing to move forward with the development of a feed-in term program and solar community programs and we'll keep you apprised of progress in those areas as they take a more defined shape. we will be looking for opportunities to partner with opportunities on off-shore wind as the technology matures and pathways for development become clearer. the redwood coast energy authority, which is the community choice energy program serving humboldt county and cities in the area is partnering with an area off the coast of the humboldt project and looks to be one of the first projects in california and there will be

other sites opened up by the federal government for leasing over the next several years. so we'll be paying close attention to that. and, of course, we will do everything here with engagement with our community and stakeholders. we're proposing to engage with stakeholders over two phases with the first phase focusing on taking the work i've presented to you today together with our integrated resource plan to the community of the next couple of months. so we're planning to present the integrated resource plan to the commission, the power cac and local agency commission later this quarter and targeting an april approval by this body. so the plan is to come with

another presentation to inform you about the work we've undertaken with the integrated resource plan in advance of a vote. , which would come later. integrated resource plan is due to the california puc on may 1st. so that's our deadline. and we'll be sharing updates with the members of the board of supervisors and their offices and we'll be inviting community-based organizations to our roundable to receive a general update on the table, but also some content on our integrated resource plan. and we're relaunching a newsletter which we'll use to update and inform our customers. we anticipate that our capital plan approvals will fund recommended next steps and that will begin next fiscal year and then we'll begin next fiscal year with a round of engagement and that second round with

include meeting with community stakeholders and host city agencies to further pursue potential sites, projects on their sites. so with that, i'm happy to take any other questions you might have. thanks. >> are we working with hope sf, which is doing a lot of building in the housing developments on patrol hill and bayview, sunny sunnydale? thank you for the question, commissioner. barbara hail, generate assistant manager, yes we are. we're working to improve the electrical grid that serves them as well as energy efficiency and other program areas. >> great, and wher are we givine who live there stakeholders and be a part of whatever groups you're doing, at least they are aware? >> yes. >> and we're working with the

mayor's office of economic and workforce development, as well, who are managing those projects. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> can i ask a question about the site review? did you -- what about the watershed lands? do we look at those and the opportunities out there, especially the public access portions? >> so some of the sites that we've identified do include some of those lands. >> like a knoll? >> yes. >> i had a vision of putting solar panels along and some microhydro-in the new tunnel. i'm wondering if you're thinking about the creative, innovative ideas. >> you know, we're happy to take in more ideas and to do a round two of this. the sites that i identified here are the extent of what we looked at for this round. and i do want to point out the work done by our staff was on

quite an accelerated schedule for this. and our planning doesn't stop with this report, it doesn't stop with the integrated resource plan we'll bring to you in next quarter and we'll continue to do that work. so this is an ongoing process and we'll always be looking for a new potential site across the puc, across the city. so happy to consider other possibilities. >> it just feels like we're such large land holders and this is a secondary use which it seems like you covered the lands are not real estate, which we don't use for primary purpose or primary used to. utility. and i understand the sensitivities of watershed development, if you will, but just feels like something done around energy production, clean renewable energy on the available lands, we should at least review it, taking into consideration all of the potential pitfalls.

>> i think one other way to think about what we've done here in the next steps is, we've identified projects that we've been aware of that we think have the best potential that previously we really didn't have a use for. and i think they'll give us an opportunity to try things out because we know there are competing uses for some of these site expose we alsites. >> another factor is how close you are to transmission or distribution by the grid. >> absolutely. >> so you can have a space out there, but you're not close to the grid, you have to get it there and it could be very costly. >> that's right. >> well, it's very exciting. thank you. >> any public comment on this report?

>> mr. kelly? >> the next item is our sewer system improvement program, major project update and i think steven, you'll introduce the project manager of the southeast community centre. >> i'm steve robinson, the program director and as we kick off 2020, providing updates on the major projects in the program, we thought it was timely and fitting to talk about the community center and i'll hand it over to shelby campbell to provide that update. >> good afternoon. i'm shelby campbell. the i thought i would start off with a recap of the project. the new southeast community center will be located at the corner of evans avenue and third street. the plans were five-acre site include a three-story building

community center and pavilion for the picture room and kitchen. in the three-story building on the frowne groundfloor is child, cafe and offices for the sf puc staff. on the second staff is multipurpose safe and classrooms and on the third floor is tenant space for our tenant partners and additional multipurpose space. the two-open acre space is play years for children, picnic areas, and the project includes a parks lot and a site for future education building.

this is an exciting time for this project as we get time to start construction. the total budget for the project is 108.5 millions of which 70% is construction costs. to recap our milestones, in 2017, we complete a design and at the final civic design review, the commissioners appraised the project stating it will be an award-winning building and the most exciting project in the city that they're looking forward to. in 2019, we also awarded the cmgc contract to pacnc and the cm contract to the allen group. this year, we're starting construction within weeks and we'll achieve substantial completion on time at th at the. we awarded the cmgc contract last january and the sf puc

issued the notice to proceed with preconstruction in april and in september, we initiated a procurement with demolition and structural-steel bid packages. to date, over 80% of the bids have been advertised. we issued the notice to proceed for construction two weeks ago and we're getting the construction office and site ready to start construction and the ground-breaking ceremony has been scheduled for saturday, march 7th. over the past nine months, the team has worked diligently to implement a local participation strategy and thanks to the efforts of my colleagues, this is now expanded into a unified work plan across all assistant projects at the southeast plant. the key components of the project are outreach with a hyper local target and strategies to remove barriers by matching projects with lb capacity and targeting workforce

training and barrier removal from workforce interested in the projects. the local participation consultants for 1515 evans are joyolanda jones and james bran f jbr partners. our contractor and consultant partners are generally committed to the mission of what this project means to the community. we're in the process of awarding 11 of the 27 trade packages representing 65% completion of procurement on a dollar basis which means that we've completed the major trades. on the bids awarded to date, we've achieved 43% lg participation and 20% are with local minority contractors, including ground control, gunmens, hby8 pioneer and red dropper.

dipper, sorry. put my glasses on. five of the 11 contracts, we've awarded had a 75% or greater lbe participation. the bids are trending 10% above or estimated costs but we're working diligently with the subs to review drawings page by page to identify savings and realign the project back to budget. the two biggest are structural steel and electrical. the structural steel sub says every fabricator in the market is booked and the only suggestion for savings was to start construction in august of '21. he told us if we start next year, we can get 1.5 million back and beyond budget. as for electrical bids, the contractor calls the bids we received no-thank you bids and the contractor who wins things, i'll have to figure out how to do this project.

i have to say the electrical sub has been a true project at the table, spending hours to find solutions. for incidencfor instance, theret blighting package deemed comparable and that was a $200,000 savings. the good news is, we're ready to start construction, starting with abatement and demolition of the warehouse building in february. our kick-off is thursday and our first partnering meeting is on monday. orchestrating everything in place to start construction and then pushing everyone at the end of construction are always the most challenging points of a project. we're also working on a facility's management and operation's and maintenance plan for 1515 evans and intented to issue rfp some time this year.

another update this year is at the public art for the project has been selected and i'm sure randall will provide an update. and with that, i'm happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. what is unique about this building since we are the publig it and we deal with water and power? are there any water features that are going to be there, that people can see in the activity area? are there any educational, outside educational treatments that people will be able to identify and learn from and is it going to be any outside exercise equipment? if you go outside the country, people are doing that with open spaces and especially since this is not necessarily in a park but

somewhere where there are people and eyes on it. this is definitely a use -- i'm sorry, start with the last end of your question, the adult exercise equipment, so that green area that's next to the education building, we're kind of leaving that open for additional programming space in the open space. , which is now just a lawn area. so because on the left-hand side, you see the bio swells and so that's our main demonstration feature is stormwater control with bioswale garden on the left-hand side. so that's a waste water, stormwater control and then renewable energy on the roof. >> that's great, but i mean, we're surrounded by water on three sides.

there should be something so when people come that features that. there could be a drip of water showing you where this water goes. right, sorry. i do have that feature. >> we do? >> yes. i forgot about that. so on the community center building, the rainwater from the roof, we will demonstrate the travel of that rainwater down an exposed pipe down the -- drain down the building and then it will be exposed at the sidewalk and we'll have a trench plate over the sidewalk and show that water flow to the bioswell. >> ok. that sounds great. i just think in addition to, that's wonderful -- >> i agree. we did evaluate treating water on site, but the building just really isn't large enough. >> we don't have to do that. that's pretty big, you're right. but i mean, i'm just thinking that being that we're surrounded by water on three sides, there

could be somewhere showing the bay and how deep it is or just where people are. i mean, i've been to places where -- i mean, like in europe and in germany, there's a drip. you can see in front of their city hall. and there's just water features and i think since we are the public utilities, you are on the bay side and people there live around that. we have more waterfront than anywhere else, that there could be some idea of how we could show something different, because if not, it's a lawn with bioswells but something that relates it could where you are in the surrounding and in the bay and the water. because people don't always realize that. >> so i would say it's more of a holistic approach.

we have, actually, 15-50, but we also have the treatment facility, as well. and there we have a prominent water feature. >> i would like to see somethin. uc. we can still think about it. we don't have people look at something that would consider that. >> in our installation -- >> what i would say that we should definitely talk about it, but we thought that, you know, we wanted to focus on the waste water side because this is a waste water mitigation and so we wanted to talk about, you know, stormwater management and stuff like that.

this is something we can talk about the other programming we have. >> it's not either/or, right? i'm saying and, because stormwater goes where and we're preventing it from going where? into the bigger ocean, in the water, right? >> that's the whole thing with the bioswells and stuff. but i would love to chat with yoyou. we're going to manage the berm. >> the focus with the art installations because we did have that discussion and it was beside it to go more towards cultural installations as opposed to who the sf puc is because this is the community center, as opposed to a building that's for the sf puc. >> i think it all goes together because this community has lived

with the puc for many, many years and so we are intertwined and i don't think it's either/or. it's and. people that live there and people coming there, you don't even recognise that the ocean, the water is right down the street and how it affects the whole community. so thank you. i appreciated commissioner maxwalemaxwell's comments and ie to see interpretive signing to say this is how much water is taken out of the stormwater system, the bay is over there in case you need to know the connection. my day job is one of our core partners and they're doing

incredible work and have developed a campsite out there now for the community and they have a whole, like, greenhouse where they have a native plants that they are using to plant the whole, you know, southeast and selling plants now. plus, there's a whole kayaking program and it would be nice to off through the community center local programming that would actually take people to the water, to the bay. and so just, you know, for us to really be thinking about programming that will tie in both with public utility and education and sort of local efforts that are going on from getting people out in the bay and activating the community down there. >> it would be great to learn

more about that, what is the bigger communication plan that will be offered to the community as part of all of these pieces. >> i would like you to get back to us in terms of how to incorporate these ideas set fort with thsetforth and you should y there is a community center that's there could begin you?

to know what the water shed is and what that means, we have an opportunity to educate people on that who live in the community so there's definitely a community tie, and there's new people coming into the community. so that would be a great idea. and also to talk about why it's there. and i just think we can do more right now. this is an opportunity. because we are having sea level

rise, we are having all these things happen. people need to have an idea and we can do that in such a wonderful and interpretive way that kids can hop and things and learn and touch something and learn. there's that. >> that's another discussion. >> so what we'll do is we'll definitely maybe have some conversations to get some of the ideas you have. i think the timing is perfect, because we are starting to do ground breaking, and we are going to do demo of the existing building. >> it's really an exciting opportunity. thank you for all your work. it's really looking great. now is where the fun stuff is from our perspective. what these ideas and community engagement pros can be. >> great. thank you. >> very productive.

any public comment on this presentation? >> next item is an update on pg&e bankruptcy and city acquisition offer. >> assistant general manager for power. so this is the time we have an for an update on the pg&e bankruptcy. i'm going to provide a brief update on the topics. our regulatory activities primaryry at the california pg&e, some of our special work. with respect to the bankruptcy of pg&e itself, as we previously discussed, both pg&e's preferred plan and the ad hoc committee plan are before the bankruptcy judge for consideration. these are separate competing plans of reorganization for pg&e to meet the financial obligations they emerged from bankruptcy. on january 23, pg&e announced it

has reached agreement with the note holder committee that the note holder's committee will withdraw that you are alternative plan and support the pg&e preferred plan. so now we would have just one plan before the bankruptcy judge for how pg&e would emerge from bankruptcy. in its announcement, pg&e recognized it needs to work with key stakeholders, including elected officials and the california p.u.c. and i'm going to quote how pg&e will look, act and be held accountable, as it emerges from bankruptcy. in a filing regarding this newest plan, the governor's office said that it believes the plan fails to address his earlier concerns, these are concerns that were expressed in a december 13 letter. i summarized that to you januar. and the governor also said that he sees it as an attempt to leverage the bankruptcy process to force the state into

accepting a quote, subopt matt matt -- suboptimal plan. pg&e hasn't filed this plan. it only has pg&e's announcement. there is a status conference in the bankruptcy case tomorrow, the 29th, before the bankruptcy judge. we expect to learn more there. there's also a filing that pg&e has to make before the california p.u.c. that filing is on friday the 31st. that starts to get into the california p.u.c. and the regulatory topic i wanted to talk about. the california p.u.c. has an investigation on the plan already opened and begun. pg&e is required to file testimony supporting its preferred plan and addressing its compliance with the ab1054 requirements. so as a reminder, those requirements are fair treatment of victims employees, continuing to make progress on climate change initiate is through pg&e,

demonstrating how the plan is newt ran on average to rate pairs and how the plan positions the company for safe, reliable and affordable service. so those are the metrics that were laid out in ab-1054. the governor said so far he hasn't seen a plan that meets that. on friday pg&e is supposed to have filed testimony that speaks to those issues. and that may be the first time we see actual filed documents that describe this newest plan. we are following that case. and together with the city attorney, we are evaluating our level of engagement in the case. at this point we anticipate that we will be prepareing testimony. then the third topic is legislative. at the last meeting i reported that the bill that we were proposing for senator wiener's introduction was introduced.

it's been -- it's in print as senate bill 804. this is the bill that would allow local agencies to qualify bonds for more favorable credit ratings and reduce service coverage. if it was pass, agencies like ours could use the authority to make power systems more resilient and safer and cleaner but financing infrastructure liar battery storage, combinations of renewables and storage, distribution system acquisition and improvements. staff have continued to work with stakeholders to garner support for senator wiener's bill. the california municipal utilities association, for example, has come out in support of the bill. the legislative activities are underway and percolating. the p.u.c.'s policy and government affairs team is plugged in and will keep coming back to you with further information as things develop. so i talked about those three

things. i mentioned a couple of the internal activities we are doing like the legislative activity and regulatory activity. we have also completed our work on a refresh of our 2015 business plan. we are continuing to o on our operational readiness to take on expanded service responsibility and preparing to request an indicative credit rating for the new envisioned enterprise were we to expand. so with that, i'm happy to take any questions you may have. thank you. >> no questions? any public comment on this report. >> that concludes my report. thank you. >> next item, please. >> item 8 is a bay area water supply and conservation agency report.

>> good afternoon, commissioners. harlan kelly, general manager. thank you for the opportunity to speak to you again today. i believe your secretary passed out a statement that is really going to be the focus of my comments today. as you'll recall, i came and spoke to you at your last workshop on your water enterprise budget. and in february, this commission will consider adoption of your ten-year cip and two-year budget that's been proposed by your staff. boska supports the projects included in this program. i think they are necessary to protect the water interests of the 1.8 million residents and community organizations we represent in three counties. importantly, we also support the inclusion of the increased funding for water supply programs that's included in that to meet your legal and

contractual obstacle debases for water supply. and i've -- obstacles for water supply. we propose additional staff be hired to perform the work. we are concerned even with those additions, implementing the c.i.p. will require a greater number of internal staff and more outside support to get the job done on time to ensure the water system remains reliable and able to deliver an adequate supply of water when and where it is needed. this issue should be addressed promptly by the commission and fixed with additional money for inside staff and outside consultants. so i request the commission look more closely at the tasks to be tone and resources recommended by staff to do them. it could lead to failure if this is not fixed. it is needed to put up the money

today rather than delay. we are committed to paying our fair share. this need is increased by climate change impact to our water supply. the commission should follow the law which requires the p.u.c. to acquire supplemental water supplies. included is additional funding for the regional groundwater storage and recovery project which is a critical project included in your state-mandated water system improvement program. the need for this additional funding so it can meet its water supply goal. what we don't understand and cannot support is any suggestion that this is complete without the individual projects and achieving the specific project and program objectives that have been set forth by this commission. the oversight was extended by the legislature for another six years. we want continued state oversight for this program until it is completed.

so in summary, we support c.i.p., we support the projects and pleased to see the water supply program included and appreciate your hard work on both these programs, but we want them properly staffed and funded so they can be successfully implemented. we ask the p.u.c. state the course as established recently by the state legislature. i thank you for your time and i'll answer any questions you might have. that completes my comments. >> commissioners? >> i do have a question. are there specific areas that you have concern? and if so, what are they? >> so we do have some areas of specific concern. we had discussions with those at a staff level. we regularly meet with your staff, we had the opportunity three times to meet on the c.i.p. as it was being developed. so those have been conveyed in

previous meetings. around the ability to actually get projects implemented. you have a lot of funding appropriation that hasn't been used in the last several years, and it was a great task to bring that forward to make sure you used that. but that indicates some difficulty in actually implementing projects that were planned. so the question is how do you overcome that? and we've had some discussions about that. but i think that's also a conversation that's really appropriate sometimes at a staff level. so i don't have any more that i was planning to prepare and speak to you today about. >> well, that has to be ongoing with staff. so i'm sure that we will make sure that that happens. >> yeah, we will work with nicole and her team to talk about how our plan to actually implement the program and meet

the schedule. >> yeah. i would be curious for there to be a feedback loop on that and better understand how much we are talking about and to really get some more specifics, because i've had the same concern as i expressed in our budget hearing that i'm just -- this real urgency around water supply because of unknown factors, regulatory climate, climate change, whatnot, and want to make sure we are not caught unawares or underbudget, if you will, for what we need to get done. and i know that steve has done a lot of thinking on this. but since we are in our budget hearings now, it feels like an important time to really figure out specifically what we are talking about and what we need to get to where we need to be. worst-case scenario, right? is how we should approach this, i feel. >> i just want to say the second

week of february, february 25 we will definitely give you an update of where everything is. in the budget, we also have a schedule. but we will iron it out in more detail. so we'll work with you and talk to you about the update that we'll give then. >> good. any further comments? >> i want to be making decisions before that, though. meeting on the 11th of february. >> i think what nicole said, and correct me if i'm wrong, the money is not the issue, it's the resources, meaning contracts and higher folks, right? >> the question is your ability to deliver it. and so if there's reallocation within existing resources, if that's something available, that's something to be looking for or processes that need to be back.

obviously there were a large number of changes that happened. and what's gone on since then and what happened and why do we have that, and if it is more resources, more program management, consultant resources, those are things we have seen in the past have assisted the p.u.c. in getting work done. >> yeah. so i'm hearing it's beyond money. >> resources could be the element but for some reason they are not. >> let me be clear. i was here when we did the weather system improvement program. and there was a lot of doubt by everyone. but what we did is we came up with an implementation plan of identifying what we were going to do in house, who was going to manage what projects, how we were going to get a program manager or not, hire the environmental consultant, design consultant, construction manager, design on the contracts and stuff like that. so we will come out with an implementation plan to do that.

we have more than enough resources to do it in house, because infrastructure has 80 positions that are vacant. so we can actually manage around that. we have the ability to issue contracts that we did. so i'm confident that we'll be able to do it. so we just need to come up with an implementation plan and work with folks to get a plan so that we can make this happen. but i must say that just keep clear that a lot of these projects are not totally in our control. and so we have talked about you making sure that we have the right resources to gently push folks that are the lead in being responsive and keeping on the burner. so these are the things we are going to work on. so why don't -- i would suggest, you know, let us work with you on the february meeting to hopefully maybe address some of your concerns and so we can move forward after that. >> and that's when we'll hear

about the implementation plan? >> will we have the implementation? yeah. i think we will have the schedule be who is involved. but the actual types of contracts, environmental contracts, how many, that's something that we need to kind of work out. because there are challenges that are different from that program. we can't do business with. so we might have to come up with another strategy. >> yes. i think your latter remark is very true. certainly, we have the plan. we had to fine-tune it because environmental, not environmental, but the total environment has changed, because as you stated, there's states that we can't do business with.

there's increased costs, materials, there's whole new venue. so i think what i would like to call it is really really tweaking our plan, because we do have a plan. i don't want it to sound like we are sort of lost at sea, not having an overall plan. but i'm glad she brought this up, because it makes us all work together in a more positive way. >> well, i appreciate the commission's attention to it and your questions significantly. and also i look forward to working further with the general manager and assistant general manager. >> good. thank you. >> any public comment on this last report? next item, please. >> item 9 is new commission business. >> commissioners? yes? >> i would like to add on our thursday hearing, go back over some