i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. . >> this is a reminder to silence all electronic devices. fire commission regular meeting february 6, 2020 and the time is 50 3:00 p.m. february 26. item one, roll call. (roll call).

>> item 2. general public comment. members of the public may address the commission for up on to three minutes on any matter within the commission's jurisdiction and does not appear on the agenda. speakers shall address their remarks to the commissioners as a whole. commissioners are not to enter into debate or discussion with the speaker. the lack of a response does not necessarily constitute agreement with or support of statements made during public comment. >> thank you, madam secretary. is there any member of the public that would like to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. next item, please. >> item 3. approval of minutes. discussion and possible action

to approve the meeting minutes from february 12, 2020. >> thank you. is there any public comment regarding the minutes of our last meeting? seeing none, public comment is closed. fellow commissioners, what say you? >> i move to approve. >> thank you. >> is there a second? >> yes, second. >> thank you. we have a motion by commissioner cleveland and second buy vice president feinstein. all in favor please signify by saying aye. thank you. >> item 4 presentation from the san francisco fire in safety education. presentation by firefighter dwayne eckerdt in connection with the sffisp.

a program providing important safety information to school children in san francisco. >> thank you. please come forward. >> good evening. we all know you are very busy. this will be very brief this evening. our team is in front of you we represent the fire department and the foundation to create an amazing program called the firefighters in safety education program. we are here to introduce the new commissioners and to give the annual update. we will tell you four things. we will tell you what the program is, who we are, how it works, and why we are doing it.

first of all, what is sffise? it is a program that delivers a 30 minute presentation from local firefighters to our locallen melocalchildren in edu. like i said, it is between the foundation and the san francisco fire department. it takes a lot of work to pull it off. we do it every year. who are we? i am the lieutenant at truck four. i have been in the fire department since 2004 and foundation volunteer since 2005. i run the san francisco firefighters and safety education program since 2010-2011 school year. i train other fire departments throughout the state of california in this curriculum. this is scott.

he works for the foundation. he is the sf partner and liaison between the fire department and the foundation. he trains fire departments across the state. patrick is here next to me, also, a fire fighter truck 7. he has been in the department since 2011. he has been volunteering since 2012. he is the lead presenter. he has done more presentations than any other presenter and most school years does more than all presenters combined. next year with any luck, he will take over the program from me. he is the face of sffise moving forward. he trains different fire departments up and down the state. on my far left is elliott reynolds, head intern. he manages, recruits and trains and is liaison for the three

volunteer interns. he does scheduling, volunteers time as an aspiring firefighter working full-time and going to the san francisco college fire academy. he just bragged that he hosted a fundraiser for us and delivered enough funds for a box for every single station in our city. all 44 stations have the brand-new box thanks to him. we are excited to have him managing the team of interns. we have currently three interns. they are tasked with scheduling, communicating with schools, pick up and delivery of the boxes and preand post tests which you will learn about in a second. the other part of the team are volunteer presenters. of course, we couldn't deliver any of this unless we had people to deliver the information in the schools. our volunteer presenters we have

49 volunteers that present in the schools across the city in every neighborhood in san francisco. the chief office in the administration. we have a lot of support from the chief's office. if we didn't we couldn't operate in the schools. sylvia does the firefighter details and a lot of general orders and administrative duties and liaison for the fire department and the burn foundation. without the chief's support we couldn't do this. it is a big team. we do a lot of good. i told you i would tell you how it works. it is simply a program where we detail schools that have previously been contacted by the intern team and scheduled. we detail a fire fighter in uniform to go to the school to deliver a 30 minute presentation.

for k through 3 and 30 minutes for 4, 5, 6. same key points, a little different style. firefighters are asked to take a box with them. it has 12 items in it. it is a script and outline. just in case the firefighters are nervous they can essentially just read right off the script. the presentation that when we do the trainings we let them know if you are nervous for the first two times read it off the script. no problem with that. i will take you there 30 minutes. the veteran presenters like patrick are accompanying the newer presenters until they get the feel of the good presentation. then the firefighter simply delivers the message to the elementary school kids. they have turnouts, clean uniforms, a prop box and go deliver the message.

they are either at the station already or intern team delivers them. they also deliver a preand post test to get the metrics how the kids are learning and if they are learning the information. without a lot of slides and data, it works well and the kids learn a lot. examples of the key points. stop, drop, roll. stay low some smoke. cool the burn, dial 911, don't hide. 4, 5, 6 graders get consequences of playing with matches and home escape plans. the kids get a visit from the fire engine as well. as soon as the presentation is over the fire engine comes to concrete the concepts we are trying to teach them. it is also really exciting for them to see the crew of firefighters and fire engine. the idea for us is the kids are

taking the information home and sharing with brothers, sisters, grandparents, mothers, sisters, brothers, uncles. not only are we reaching kids and families and communities. this is all free. we don't charge for any of this stuff. we want to make sure children have the information to pass on to families and communities because our mission as firefighters and the burn foundation mission's is to reduce burns and fatalities. we are doing an excellent job in our community. why sffise? in 2001 there was no public educator provision for burp prevention and -- burn prevention and fire prevention. a firefighter krieger contacted the burn foundation to say we

can make this program great. that continued and in 2010 and 2011, i took the program over. since then we are educating between 7,000 to 15,000 kids every single school year in this program. the program under goes professional educator reviews, grade level appropriate net, nfpa tracts. we have master educators pourover to make sure it is appropriate. we go through to make sure it is accurate, up-to-date and appropriate. the information is 100% reliable. so much so in 2015, san francisco unified school district mandated this would be taught in allen men tree schools in san francisco. we are -- in all of the elementary schools in san francisco. we are able to deliver the program.

it helps the community. as firefighters we stick to our mission to serve. as i said, we have 49 enrolled volunteers. i would like patrick to talk about the firefighter's side of it and shed light on what the firefighter experience is for those volunteers. >> good evening. the fireman doing the presentation is one of the few things where we get nothing but positive feedback. often times dealing with the public we get less than positive response to the attempt to resist. this is a fun opportunity to really take in a lot of love. during my time helping with this program across the state, i have seen attempts to use fire cadets or nonfirefighters to present the information and it doesn't seem to have the same effect. when we walk in in our uniform with our gear, especially being

in san francisco where the kids see us on the street. i have had firefighter patrick call to me and kids on the sidewalk and in grocery stores. there is something powerful when the child knows we are a fire fighter presenting the information. they take it seriously and retain it. that is the best part. we have volunteers at every firehouse, prop kits in every firehouse. it is a smooth and easy transition for the firefighter, one or two presentations a year and two hours out of the day and you get a big reward back. we appreciate your report. elliott, our lead intern. >> hello, commissioners. they filled you in my role pretty well. i will be short and sweet. i have been with the program for

three years. we have had amazing growth in those three years. i want to thank you all forgiving us the cubicle at headquarters which is a huge help. we have three volunteers besides me who do if work. scheduler and two logistics guys that work together to get it done. last semester we reached 2755 students. usually the fall semester is slower so for the spring semester, we have reached out to 51 schools and have scheduled 11 schools. our numbers should be on track with the higher end of the usual goal. we are still doing our best to continue to add schools to the list, both public, private and alternative schools as well. thank you. >> i am sure you would like to

hear from scott as well as far as the burn foundation side of this. >> good evening, commissioners. the burn foundation works with burn survivors throughout the state of california. our goal is to put ourselves out of business. these guys are platinum standard of getting into schools and teaching prevention. the testing they talked about is testing not only what they learn year after year but how much they retain. we are incredibly successful in this an appreciate the effort fr being the front line forgetting the prevention method to the students of san francisco. thank you. >> that is the four teams we promised to tell you what the program is, who we are, why it works and how it works. we want to say thank you again

to the administration and fire commission for continued support. we look forward to continue to educate san francisco children, and we look forward to another great year and more education. thank you very much. >> thank you very much for your presentation. is there any public comment? public comment is closed. i will go to my fellow commissioners. beginning with the chief of the department. she is not a commissioner but her name is up there. >> i can defer to my other commissioners if they would like to go first. first of all, hello, my friends, hello. thank you so much. it is great to see you guys here. thank you so much for the work you guys do. i know you don't get paid for this and you do this because you

feel like it is really important work. thank you. you are not just the gold standard for our department. thanks and we will be happy to continue supporting you. i know sylvia is a great contact person for you. thank you for everything, all you do. >> thank you, chief. commissioner cleveland. >> thank you, madam president. i would like to echo the chief's comments. you guys are doing terrific work that serves the citizens of the city by educating children on fire safety. i would like to offer my thanks. keep up the good work. a couple questions. you talk about the 12 item in the prop box. what are they? >> it is essentially the 12 items relate to each key point

we have as far as stop, drop and roll, cool a burn, dial 911, high-five a fire fighter to give the kids a visual representation and keep the presenters on track. if we lay out a smoke detector, smoke alarm. who has seen one of these. they can see it. do you see one in this room right now. it is to solid fithe knowledge. there is a teddy bear and telephone for dialing 911, a blanket and stop, drop and roll sign. >> whawhat is the prop box. >> a box full of props. >> i was hoping you would bring it in. >> we will bring you one. we will do the whole presentation for you. >> i wanted to ask you. do you video? i think it would be something important to put on television

on our government channel. >> yes, absolutely. i am only stuttering i am in the video. i can't imagine what that would be like on the government channel. we have training videos and the full presentation. that is one of the resources we offer the firefighter volunteers in safety education.com we have outlines and scripts and videos broken down by chapter. any firefighter with a presentation can go and watch the entire presentation from somebody that has done it many, many times, myself and firefighter patrick. we are on there doing each and every chapter. they can look to see that is the stop, drop and roll. >> it is half a hour. >> the entirety. >> have you given that to

sfgovtv? >> no. >> then you should. >> we can, absolutely. they need to run that education for everyone out there that watches television. if they can't. they don't have children in school they can still learn about keeping themselves safe from getting burned. it would be very important to get a broader audience to what you are doing for the children. >> thank you you. >> testing. do the kids get tested after the half hour? >> they do. the idea we need to know how much they are learning. if this is effective or not we give them a pretest which the intern team delivers to the school. it is five questions. what do you use to cool a burn, ice cream? there are examples. then we match that up with the post-test which they receive

within 24 hours after we have dubour presentation -- have done our presentation. we try to get the same schools captured and can tell if they are learning more on the pre-test year after year. >> what things are more difficult? >> often times we find this one question lots of kids are getting wrong on the pre. they are not getting it wrong on the post. we know that is important. our cool the burn question. what do you use to cool the burn? ice cube, cool water and ice-cream cone. a lot of kids put ice. we mention that we don't want you to use ice. this is why. we want you to use cool water. post-test. 90% get it right. we are teaching them and the repeated exposure shows over time they learn more and more. >> why don't you use ice? >> we don't use ice because ice

is so cold that frozen water sticks to burn skin. when you pull it off, it might pull-off your skin. >> are these presentations done in spanish or chinese? >> yes, these presentations are done every year in spanish and chinese. we just finished two spanish presentations last week in the mission. we have printed materials in i think 11 languages, scott. >> updated seven languages. we are looking to expand to as many as possible, probably the goal is 20. >> this is a fantastic program. keep up the good work. thank you for all the hours and time that you have put into this. the fact that you are educating our youth throughout the city in fire safety is a huge contribution. thank you for that. >> thank you. >> thank you, commissioner.

>> thank you very much, madam president. first of all, lieutenant, you started this program in 2010, 10 years? i just want to recognize that commitment and thank you for that. firefighter pat. i have seen you as well. thank you very much for your service and participation. elliott reynolds, intern, three years. thank you very much for that. scott, i didn't catch your last name. wertz. >> in terms of association. what is your role at the foundation? >> so am the northern california regional manager.

my initial interaction with the foundation was as a survivor. i was burned in 2013, and i was greeted by the foundation while still in the hospital where i got to see the positive effects and meet other burn survivors. i came on as a volunteer and as full-time position representing northern california in prevention and survivor services. >> i am glad you share that with us. i want to thank all of you for your service. commissioner cleveland asked the questions i was going to ask in terms of language which makes so much sense in terms of the children you are trying to approach. half an hour curriculum. how does that work? the instructor allows you to

come in at a certain time or how does that work? >> when we call the schools or when we schedule the schools, it is 30 minute curriculum to cover the points and 30 minutes for 4 through 6. it is different. the curriculum and script is written based on at tension span for elementary school kids to keep at 30 minutes. >> that answers one of the questions that it is targeted for elementary children. >> absolutely. >> i want to ask as well. is there q&a, questions and answers by the students after the presentation? >> yes, and we train the new presenters to leave time for questions. we pick an equal number. it looks like we have time for four questions. two boys and two girls. two questions. it depends on the timing.

generally the presenter sticks to the script and there is time for at least four questions. they are generally good questions. (laughter). >> i assumed in the sense of the target population of elementary so part of the thinks is that with the presentation i am assuming the children are enthusiastic about the presentation and ask questions as well which tells me there is more engagement in the presentation. >> it is extremely interactive. it is based on the call and response model. every question i ask or any volunteer presenters ask we are giving the answers. which way does smoke go, boys and girls. we expect them to answer. the seven key points have interaction. we invite kids to do stop, drop and roll with us. [please stand by]

>> when you go to these schools, is it both private and public? do the catholic schools and other schools get an opportunity? >> absolutely.

>> no restrictions in terms of the schools? >> no, it's just the elementary age. so preschools, we tend to steer away from and junior high, high school, those are separate programs we don't have curriculum for, so elementary students and any school in san francisco, absolutely. >> i am very, very impressed. i'm very proud, because you are an extension of us out there in the community. and in terms of the effect of the numbers and positive interaction, i just think it's a wonderful program. and i wish you the best and the continuance of this. lieutenant, what are you going to be doing after you leave this position? you were talking about turning it over? >> yes. i'll still be really involved. >> okay. [laughter] i'll still be doing quite a bit. so as far as i'm concerned, firefighter has done so much work for the burn foundation.

it's only natural to pass it on. i think he can give new energy and life with it also and i'm looking forward to seeing what he can do with it. >> i believe in succession plans, it just enlarges the group as well. thank you very much. thank you, chief. madame president, thank you. >> thank you. commissioner rodriguez. >> i want to commend you on your time, your dedication. i'm sure it's a lot of time in trying to make sure that what you are doing is effective. my union actually does a golf tournament, a charitable golf tournament with the alisa foundation. i never knew there was any preventing. usually the money we raise goes for a camp for the kids that are

going through burns. >> champion. >> yeah. but like you were saying, prevention really is at the heart of everything if you can do that. so once again, i think it's really important. i'm trying to remember back when i was in school, but i don't know if i went through anything like that. but once again, thank you very much. >> you are welcome. to be fair, for the new commissioners i know the veteran commissioners and administration knows this but the burn foundation was actually started because a little girl, alisa ann was caught in a backyard barbecue fire. her and her brother were caught on fire. she did not survive because she ran around, this was in 1972. she didn't know about stop drop and roll. her brother was tackled and rolled out and that's how stop drop and roll was developed. and i think i can speak easily for these guys as well. and that's why we are doing

this, because we don't want kids to get burned and killed because they don't know what to do. so it's important for us to continue this message on a volunteer basis. it's free, it's all of our time. i'm sure you knew as a kid but somebody had to have taught you, so we are trying to pay that forward. >> anything else, commissioner rodriguez? okay. thank you. vice president feinstein. >> i just want to reiterate what my fellow commissioners have said, what a great program, and really commend you all for developing it, taking it out there, reaching so many people, i was just -- i was absolutely stunned by hearing the numbers. and i wish when i had been a young child that i had been the

beneficiary of this. and i'm not so young anymore, but i would always put ice on a burn, and that will never happen again. so you can reach others as well. with regard to sfgov, skip sfgov and go right for youtube. your presentation should go on youtube. there are all these fire presentations there. this is more important than all of them. really want to commend you on it. it's such a public service. and i know it takes of your time and your spirit and everything else. but it's a very great gift you are giving. so thank you all. >> thank you. >> thank you, madame vice president. and thank you for your presentation. it was wonderful. i don't know, lieutenant eckerdt, if you remembered our

former president andrea evans? >> yes. >> yes, because when you first did a presentation for us, i think i was vice president at that time, and we asked are you doing it in all the schools and it was like no, we haven't been able to do that. and so it was then president evans, and a number of people on the school board who got together and said, oh, this definitely should be in every classroom. so commissioners do have an impact. a very positive impact on things as we become aware of them. and now to hear the numbers, they are fantastic. just fantastic. so very happy about that. you had just a couple of

questions. if you are the president of a p.t.a., and you have watched this presentation, what should you do to get this program in your school? >> that's a great question. call the burn foundation immediately. >> okay. >> yeah, absolutely. so any time we do this presentation, we never have to ask twice. we always get to do it again, all the administrators and students respond really positively to it. so absolutely, the burn foundation is always available. and of course me as well. you can always call myself or firefighter reyes. we'll make sure it happens for sure. >> very good. well, i think you are doing such a fantastic job. and the props box, all of that, thank you very much for making sure that every station has its own prop box instead of, you

know, where has that thing, i can't find it, do you have one at your station, can i swing by. so it's wonderful that every station has the problem box. then i wanted to also ask about the annual relay. i didn't hear anything about that, and i think it would be wonderful for people to know. >> yes. so the burn foundation does an incredible amount of stuff, even within san francisco, this just is the tip of the iceberg. this is what we are really, really proud of. one of the events that we do is the burn relay, that's the peninsula burn relay, specifically that one goes from moffet field and we start at moffet field with one fire engine, and then relay to each fire station or city up elcamino

all the way to here driving in with up to 20 fire engines. laos year was a dwindling year -- last year was a smaller year because of teams being away on strike teams, but it's something we are proud of. it's quite a feat seeing all the fire engines coming down mission street. the people of san francisco come out expecting this and are just so excited to see fire engines from as far as moffet field, we have classic fire engines, private fire engines, we have people that come from around the state to see this. and that's all collecting money that goes into prevention, that goes into survivor services, that goes into all our programs that really happen throughout the state of california and northern california. >> very good. thank you. i think it's very important to

know that the foundation and the department work so well together and have been working so well together over the years and that the foundation is a nonprofit and they do have events that you can attend and support the cause. i know that vice president feinstein says she always uses the ice cube on her burns. but also a lot of people use butter. which is just as bad. like let me cook my skin. i mean no, that's not a good idea. so i just wanted to mention that. do not use butter if you have a burn. and getting to citizens when they are very young is so important. and the message, high five a

firefighter, don't hide, that is incredibly important, because the first time a child sees a firefighter in full gear, their instinct is to hide. but if they see you in their classroom in a place they feel comfortable and you are imparting information to them, it changes everything, changes everything when you go in and they hear your voice and see you, they won't be afraid, they will go towards you instead of hiding under their bed or in the closet. so thank you very much for all of your hard work. >> thank you. >> thank you. any other comments, commissioners? okay. madame secretary, can you call up the next item? >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> keep it up. >> item 5, chief of department's report, report from chief of defendant, jeanine nicholson, on current issues, activities,

events within the department since the fire commission meeting on february 12, 2020, including budget, academies, special events, communications and outreach to other government agencies and the public. and report from administration, deputy chief jose velo, on the administrative divisions, fleet and facility status and updates, finance, support services and training within the department. >> greetings, commissioners. staff, everybody else. this is my report since our last commission meeting. first of all, i want to say we have a firebug in the room. our new commissioner rodriguez went to station 5 for a ride along. and caught a working fire and a few other things. and thank you, chief, for taking good care of him. so somebody else is going to ask you to come to their station,

because they think you are their lucky charm. anyways, so we interviewed, before the last commission meeting, we started interviewing for the office of department physician. we did conduct our final interview since the last meeting. and i believe that may be on the schedule for later tonight as well. i met with the newly-formed office of racial equity members, and they have, something came out of the board of supervisors about that and sort of the mandates. so we are working with them on our plan. labor management meeting, we had one of those as well recently, and we talked a significant amount about the budget and how we can work together to advocate for the department.

we've also been having in-house budget prep meetings with director and other members of the command staff, including chief tong and others to really get our numbers and our story in order. i am going to speak with the mayor on friday about it. i also went to mayor's monthly department head meeting. and she talked a little bit about the budget but mostly about the coronavirus. as you may know, the city declared a state of emergency on the coronavirus, not because there are additional cases in the city or anything, but because the mayor needs to do that in order for other departments to have flexibility, whether it's recalling disaster service workers or having people do things they would otherwise

not normally do in their position and work hours they wouldn't normally work, as well as expedite contracts. so that's sort of the power of a state of emergency. i attended a citywide leadership development forum panel with mcfadden and colfax from dph and the department of aging and disability. i attended a capital budget discussion meeting at city hall talking about major projects such as our fire stations, our fire station rebuilds, remodels. we met with santa clara civil grand jury came up to meet with us to discuss recruitment and retaining female firefighters. with the assistance of a lot of

our folks led by chief velo, we have set up recruit panel interviews. so what we are doing instead of me just picking folks off the list to be in the department, we are involving members of our department. so there are 30 members involved in ten panels, three people on a panel. we have a wide range of people, race, gender, and time in the department and what they do in the department. and they will be having those interviews starting next week for the next two weeks. we are hoping to have a class sometime after the beginning of the fiscal year. i met with dph and some other departments about -- we had an

executive briefing on w.p.c., whole person care, which is something that has come out of the department of health for dealing with a lot of our really challenged folks on the street. some of them are housed but a lot of them are on the street, who may have dual diagnoses and early severe mental illness or physical illness. and we are collaborating with them on that. and our e.m.s. 6 is the best model for them that they want to use. so we are advocating for more resources in our budget for that, because we are pulled in other directions other than what our e.m.s. 6 medicine does, and we are happy to do it, we just need the resources. i met briefly with the chaplain

committee to launch the process of putting together a chaplainsy program. as you may know, we have had father greene for the last i don't know how many decades. has it been 30 something years? he has been our own chaplain, and we have worn him down. and so we are looking at what the police do. the police have chaplains from every denomination and to sort of spread the wealth and the weight. so we formed a chaplain committee, and they have begun their work, because as you may know, father greene will be retiring in june. i attended the united fire service breakfast the other day, and they are working on recruitment and mentoring program as well as several other

things. and as you may know, the 126 graduation is this friday, 9:00 a.m. at the scottish rite center on 19th street, and i will see you all there i hope. and that concludes my report. >> thank you, chief nicholson. is there any public comment on the chief's report? seeing none, public comment is closed. and i will go to commissioner cleveland. >> thank you, madame president and thank you chief for your report. it was comprehensive and brief, as always. and i appreciate it. quick question. you mentioned something about the e.m.s. 6 model be pulled in a different direction and to -- can you elaborate about what that means and why additional funding is necessary? >> yeah. so as you may or may not know,

e.m.s. 6 is a program we have been running for i'm not sure how many years now, but it has been an impactful and effective program in terms of getting support and services for folks that call 911 the most and who have the most challenging mental and physical illnesses. and it has been very successful in terms of hooking people up with services and getting folks off the street and into the care and even back to their family in ohio. we had one person. so it's very effective, and i believe the rest of the city, a lot of city departments have seen how effective it is. and so if you don't have to reinvent the wheel, why reinvent the wheel? and so we are being -- we have our own list of folks under e.m.s. 6 in terms of patients that we connect with and

contact. and whole person care, which came out of the department of public health and h.s.h., homelessness and supportive housing department, has a whole other list of folks that they are targeting. so we are being asked to help with that as well. and so while we absolutely are -- we think the whole person care program is really effective as well, and we would like to support it. so we just need more resources to do that. >> how does the fire department interact with this? i'm not quite sure what we are doing here with the whole person housing or whatever it is called. >> whole person care. >> what does that mean? >> i could have our e.m.s. 6 talk to you about it, but it is

a way to -- it's very similar to e.m.s. 6 what we do already. it's just being done with several other departments that, because they have seen how effective this can be, and it's also sort of the gold standard across the country in terms of whole person care in terms of what they are doing. so it is -- they work intensively one on one with people. >> it sounds resource intensive. >> they work one on one with folks to gain their trust, to get them the care they need, to get them going to their appointments, to get them on the list for housing, to get them shelter, all that kind of stuff. so it's medical, it's social. >> very labor intensive, i imagine. >> yeah, absolutely.

>> and takes a lot of manpower, person power to do that, and what you are saying is we need to staff up in our e.m.s. 6 program in order to do this, correct? >> yes, in order to do our own work in e.m.s. 6 we need resources as well as when we are being pulled in other directs, because we have such a -- it has such a great impact. so i sat in for that meeting the other day. and with other department heads. yeah. >> it's a real crisis we are facing on our streets. there's no question about that. it's a very real crisis every single day. i drive through the tenderloin to come here to these meetings, and i see people on the streets and sidewalks walking around in a daze every single time. and it's heart breaking. it's absolutely heart breaking. that we have this kind of destitution on our streets. in order to deal with it we are going to need a lot more money

into our e.m.s. 6 program. so i'm wondering what did you ask for in the budget for next year? >> i am going to speak with the mayor on friday about it. and i will have more details for you next week. but yeah, we are asking for more resources for that program. >> all right. >> for sure. >> thank you, chief. >> you're welcome. >> that's all my questions. >> thank you, commissioner cleveland. does any other commissioner have any questions? okay. i hope this question doesn't put you on the spot, chief, but -- >> bring it. [laughter] >> well, all right. [laughter] is there any redundancy regarding what we have with e.m.s. 6 and this new program, which is -- what did you call

it? whole person care? >> so the only redundancy i would say is that we have a list of our clients on e.m.s. 6, and they have a specific list of 237 people for whole person care. the only redundancy is on their list, they have 17 of the same people that we have on our list. so that's the only redundancy. so, yeah. >> all right. thank you. and can you talk a little more about the office of racial equality? >> the office of racial equity, i should have come prepared. but i can get you the what came out of the board of supervisors this past year. sandra fewer was one of the originators of the document that passed. i'll get it to you.

it's very short document. you can see their timelines for us to come up with plans and meet certain priorities. >> so this office is up and running? >> yes, it has two people in it right now. >> okay. all right. so we'll be hearing more about it in general. >> yes. literally just started in the last month or so. >> very good. thank you. and thank you for the explanation on the state of emergency that the mayor has declared so that people don't think it's something other than what it is. giving the department flexibility to respond to the coronavirus. all right. thank you. and now we have another report coming up. welcome, chief velo. >> good evening president, vice

president, commissioners, chief, maureen. deputy chief jose velo, administration. this is my report for the month of january. a lot going on down in city hall. so this is my report for january for the new commissioners i want to explain something how it works. i'm the second report, therefore my information is given from the previous month. so some information is outdated in time. but i've been doing the presentation that has newer components since we last met, so keep you up to date on things that are going on. but the actual report has all the information that my bureaus and divisions did in the month of january. so i'll get started. i will start with my training division. as the chief mentioned our academy is going to graduate this friday. with 48 recruits. the largest class in the history of the fire department. during the month of january,

they received training, fire control, which is going through a burn box and experiencing fires. you experience that. when we had the event. they completed specific curriculum. and they also -- and you will see in the video that we will present to them, active shooter training. that's one that we added to the academy. and actually p.d. comes with us and we work together and do those together. the recruits went through those with p.d. like they would in a real incident. those are pictures from the academy. in-service training is our folks that we have a separate division within training that train our current firefighters out there. they do a lot of different topics through the year. we do a lot of those as well. we have a new module starting on monday that includes tactical decision making and live burns. so we talk about tactics and

again they go through the evolutions. to train the size of our department it takes a long time to go through it. so the more reps we can do with them, the better they get the skills. you go to a fire on your first watch but that's an issue. we need to put them through the repetitions and make sure they get the heat and smoke they do on a regular basis. this month we had a drill. so we had companies in the middle of the night to respond to an emergency. and we do that about three or four times a year. we have a committee that organizes this. we sometimes work with transbay too. we work with them to prepare for drills when there are no trains running. so that happens in january too. nert continues to train. as you recall from the last meeting, we lost a senior member of nert.

this is the picture when his widow received the award for that. and thank you for that support. the nert is also doing c.p.r. training. and this month we did a ham operator class for our operators, our incident report specialists. critical that we have that. every battalion house does have an a.c.s. radio in the station. in case all communications fail, that's another backup system for us. so having more of our support specialists trained in this, they can receive information, will help the disaster plan function better. so this month the members from the department trained on that. nert received an award for the group application they used to recall their members in case of an emergency. they received an award for that.

some of the commissioners have heard this before, we have a program called listos. we did another series this month of four pleases, and we did a train the trainer. it is an abbreviation part of nert, basic skills for the spanish community. we go to the community and teach them basic skills to help themselves. it is not the full nert curriculum. i actually participated and was an instructor for a few years. and the community comes, they bring the children to the training, they bring food and do a potluck and share that and they learn basic skills to help themselves in case of a major event. it's really successful. we have more members of the department trained on that. our chief of health, safety and wellness has been busy this month. we hosted a cancer cohort study. we have some folks from berkeley university that came in and tried to capture some firefighters, and looking for

specific members, arson investigators and female firefighters. they are going to follow them through the years and see what the effects of carcinogens and other issues of health in the department. so we can recruit folks from the department and enroll into the program. we are looking forward to the reports. we are hosting a critical incident response teams class which is going to be supported by commissioner's burn foundation. members that took last year's peer support training are going to be trained for this and in case of a major event where we need more than four members, they can help the stress unit in case of a serious event with numerous people that would be affected so they can come and be on call to come to that, so we are doing that this month too. we are hosting a suicide prevention class, coming up in the next month in two days. we are working with our arson unit to come up with some

equipment that it can use. as you know, when the fire is out, there's still a lot of smoke in the air, and they are one of the parts of the fire service that are affected a lot by cancer. so we are researching what equipment can we give them to protect them but yet able to do their job on the scene. so we are working with that. chief parks attended the deescalation training. that's the training i spoke on last commission meeting where now we are going to bring into the department some folks from 49 and then folks from the field too. i've been having members from not only chief parks training and e.m.s. training go to these classes, and p.d. has been gracious to let us participate. we are going to bring the curriculum together and make it customized for our department. we have been working with a new grant writer to get health and finance grants. so she is engaged with our grant writer. as you can see from the picture,

that's toby. we are going to have regular business now from therapy dogs coming to the stations. one of the things he's done with our training staff is, and i spoke to you a few meetings ago that we are analyzing the injury data of our department. we recognize 24% of our injuries in the department have relationship with apparatus, ambulances or trucks. and many are strains of ankles and so forth. so they put together a video we shared with the department called three points of contact. it's basically you have to have three points of contact when you enter or dismount an apparatus to save you from injuries. sometimes we are not careful and the streets are not always the best, so we can have issues. so we really focus on identifying the injuries coming up with programs and educational things that we can tell our members how to prepare and analyze that. so it's been a good start for her to come up.

support services, extremely busy as always. on the report you have all the information. 35 are new floating stations. on the left you have the what ce from china. construction has started on that. so it's moving along quite nicely. last month they closed 484 facility requests, which is when an officer of the station reports through our system that something is wrong with the station that needs to be repaired. they put it into the system. and we close that number last month. we have been trying to make sure that d.p.w. and all the folks that come to the stations are on top of things and closing it in. so station 10 had an issue with the sewer and we had to complete a system overhaul for that. if you've been there before, lots of big trees there. when they have rain they flooded

so we had to do an overhaul for that. continuing to work on generators. the working projects have been completed. not that we have had much rain lately, but it's great. and we completed the window projects for three stations. one of the projects we had is our security grant access program that we have our cars that we can access the stations instead of using keys. so every member has a card and they can access the stations. so that's been completed as well. proud to show you this picture of station 43 where they have brand new apparatus doors as an example of the work that support services is doing, going in with the vendors. on the left is the old doors. on the right is the new doors. they are proud of them. i visited them today. they wanted to make sure i thank the chief and support services for the new doors. they love them. support services went to the

factory in louisiana to perform the inspection on the first of the five trucks. as we have talked before, the process we do is make sure the first truck that is built is built exactly how we want it. they had issues and have been corrected. the next phase will be to drive the truck from louisiana to here. and that's just a road trip, make sure everything goes well and make sure we run around the city, we go through all the station, make sure there's no angles and so forth. and after we are satisfied with the way it is, we order five more now that everything is done, it's a much faster process. but it takes a while to get the first one done. so that's what we are doing. the six engines on order under the preconstruction phase, they are going through the process of the same process. and then the bids are close. they are in the review process and we have members from the department and shops that are going to go and review the two bids that came in. and b.o.e. received the new

generation of battery-operated rescue tools. and they are in the process of inventorying them and deploying them to all the stations. that's great. i always close with some community outreach our office does. lieutenant baxter, we had recruitment with career info sessions, we had members of the community that are candidates that get information. our mission high school program has been very successful. we want to keep up with it. we also have, every month, different district safety fairs, and the president of the board of supervisors came to that one this time around. we continue to do coastal safety tips that we send information around the coastline to make sure the folks are safe over there. and just to finish our report, i want to thank commissioners nakajo and president covington for coming to us to celebrate the chinese new year.

it was a great event as you recall. i'm happy to answer any questions. my report is comprehensive. i wanted to give you the highlights for yourselves. >> thank you very much. great. is there any public comment on chief velo's report? okay. public comment is closed. and i will go to commissioner cleveland. >> thank you, madame president. and thank you, chief velo, for your report. a couple of questions. listos which is a spanish training program in fire safety, correct? >> yes. >> who is it addressed to? where is it performed? what do you teach? >> so we took -- it's a statewide program from the office of the governor. it started in l.a. we adopted it a few years back. it focuses on the spanish community. we have done it in churches, we have done it in the d.o.t. it's a light version of nert, so

it's not so many hours. it's four sessions, two hours each. and some of the same skills we teach at nert we teach to them. it's taught in spanish. so we have members of the department that are bilingual and go and help them out. i've done it in the past before and it was very satisfying to do it. it's usually at night, so after the workday they can do it. we allow them to bring their children because many don't have an opportunity to have childcare. and they bring meals too because it's time for them to have dinner. the last 20, 30 minutes they share a meal and we share a meal, and they can have it there. >> how many of these classes do you put on? >> last year there was four. it depends on if we get engagement for the community but last month there were four. and we also did a train the trainer class, so we added more members of the department that can train the classes. >> if there's a church or community group that wants to have it put on, would they

contact you? >> they contact nert. we have members of the department, yeah. >> that number is online? available to the public? >> yes. >> i think it's a great program. i want to make sure we are advertising it enough. you talk about the suicide prevention class. that i assume is for firefighters, correct? that's for the members of the department? >> that's correct. and it's a tragic statistic that last year more firefighters died from suicide than in fears. it is a trend that's been going on. the fire service and also in the police departments around the country. the situation is mental health crisis affecting all professions. so we give them tools, obviously ptsd and ptsi is something our members experience on a regular basis, and it affects them too. so we want to give them toolses, coworkers that can -- tools and coworkers that can recognize symptoms. >> the key parts of that, is

that something you could present? >> it's presented by a third party. chief parks has been reaching out to different entities that can give training for our members. so i can have chief parks come in and give a preview. >> i think it would be educational, not only for us as a commission but certainly for the public at large. so is it a video presentation? is it something they can -- >> it starts next month, so i can give you a report. >> i think the statistics say this is an important program. not only for our firefighters but quite frankly for the general public as well. >> correct. >> so i would like to give it a little airtime if we could. you talk about a fitness grant. what is a fitness grant? i think i need one. >> me too. we are looking for grants. years ago we got a grant that we were able to purchase equipment, weights. we are looking at anything we can get.

there are a lot of grants out there, and that's a fantastic way, to have a grant writer and reaching out to her to be able to get any equipment or programs, even trainers that can come to the firehouses too. so that's where we are engaging chief parks with a grant writer in order to get something. >> very good. is station 49 on schedule to be opened in, what, november? >> december. >> december? so that's still on schedule. >> it is still on schedule. it looks beautiful. they even have the sign already at station 49 in the building already. >> any new progress on the new training facility in terms of location? has anything happened there? >> not yet. >> i hope we have a clear path for how we want to, where we want to have it and all the details. the commissioners are a little frustrated by the progress on

this. >> we are working diligently on it. so, yes, we are. >> nothing to share with the commission yet? >> not right now, no. we are on it. >> one thing i can share is that we have a weekly meetings with the controller's office in regards to what we need in the training facility, whatever it happens to be. so they are engaging us on what props we need, what kind of buildings. a study was done, we are updating the study, making sure the information meets all the standards for the state fire marshal. so those conversations are going on on a regular basis to make sure. >> it just seems like it's taking a long time. and it's frustrating for you guys as well as for us. but thank you. keep us posted. thank you, madame president. >> thank you. commissioner nakajo. >> thank you very much, madame president. chief velo, as you remarked, a very comprehensive report. i don't have any major questions except for one, again, as i

traditionally go through the reports, and i did notice a cover page in terms of the divisions. nicholas payne, the airport division, chief avi, the ability for us to look at fire auxiliary reserves, the nert report, and again how effective foils are. i've been paying attention to the recruitment roars that come out, fire and -- reports that come out with chief parks. the environmental occupational health and safety with boone and appreciate the physician's report. and i know that this evening we are going to do some work on that. the investigation report, but more importantly, the results of

the report from captain. research and planning. captain nuker. it's important we pronounce names properly. i always need help in that. chief support services, chief dewitt, and there's been a lot going on. so i appreciate your hard work within that, being on top of it. and as i just paged through in terms of being able to look at human resources and such, very, very comprehensive. i thank you very much for highlighting the details. the only question that i have, and perhaps we might be able to get some comments from chief, is that with this virus, we understand there's less activity in terms of the airport, and i don't know what that means. i know that what we see on the

tv screens and newspapers is less travelers or airports in terms of dynamics, and i just wanted to hear if there's any kind of increase in terms of obviously the health issue with the virus that's going on and how that affects us within the department. >> good evening, commissioners. assistant deputy chief. as far as the airport and receiving visitors, it's continued all flights to china at this time. also the c.d.c. are the ones that are handling the passengers as they arrive. and if they are being checked with a thermal scan as far as whether or not they have a temperature. they also check their passports in customs to see whether or not they have traveled through mainland china, and if they are, they are checkedd to make sure they are not ill, and they also

continue to check passengers whose passports have traveling through mainland china. >> okay, chief. and from your observation, is there a decrease in terms of travel and travelers? >> oh, significantly. yes. >> okay. >> because they have stopped the flights to mainland china. >> okay. and then again the ripple effect upon the concessioners and retail folks. >> there's been a reduction in passengers, so therefore a reduction in the revenue of the airport con sessions. >> and we are still doing the bicycle medics? >> yes, sir. >> okay. i just wanted to get reinforced within that beyond what's on the tv and newspapers. thank you, chief. >> you're welcome. the c.d.c. has hired extra personnel to hire the passengers that are coming on flights that derive in mainland china, but they have discontinued flights. >> thank you for that

reinforcement. and again, we all are, but you are particularly, and the members of the department, on the frontline. and so, again, it just reinforces all the information for us, the commissioners, in terms of what's going on in the world and how it affects us here in san francisco. thank you, chief. >> you're welcome. >> thank you, chief velo. >> thank you very much, madame president. >> thank you, commissioner nakajo. commissioner rodriguez. >> thank you, madame president. kind of want to thank you for your report. so i've only heard a couple times of cancer causing, and yesterday i was on-site of a fire, so could you elaborate what it is that you are looking at? and i'm sure if you are having the same problem here, it's nationwide or worldwide, right? so what does that entail? and what you are looking at?

>> how much time do you have? cancer is a major issue in the fire service. carcinogens are everywhere, and when we go to fires, even though we wear sebas, the smoke particles are in the air. even when the fire is out. when you clean up the scene of the fire, just moving the dirt, the smoke, i mean the ashes lift up to the air and that would bring in the particulates. so the fire department is aware of cancer. it has been on the front lines of studies for cancer prevention. we started last year a policy where after fire, we make sure we wash so we don't bring the ash to the firehouses. we are aggressive on what we are doing with this. arson investigators come in after the firefighters are almost finished with the fire, and then they are walking around the same situation.

they don't wear the protective gear because they have to dig into the fire. so they are also exposed, and it's been proven that their site of the house in the fire service has a higher rate of cancer because of that. so we are looking at masks or something that is not so cumbersome so they can still operate. and we are looking at things they can give to them. and they are providing information for us too. but cancer in general in the fire service is a huge problem for us. so we are looking at all angles to attack this. and whether it's policies, make sure we wear we wear the protective gear all the time, air the scene out before we start working on removing the burnt elements. so different approaches to this issue. >> thank you. >> thank you, commissioner rodriguez. okay, chief velo. thank you for your report. i just have a couple of quick

questions for you. let's see. oh, on page 3, you mention a video, three points of contact. can you please forward that video to the commission secretary so that all of the commissioners will have a chance to look at it? thank you. and i also have on page 4 it seems that we have a good supply of vehicles for the extraction exercises. >> what do you mean? >> on page 4, it says auto extraction. >> education. yes, we do have -- we were able to get vehicles from different entities. so we can practice our skills. on saturdays we have a regularly-scheduled drill on saturdays that we can bring the

troops are there to do that. >> that's very important. and i tell you, it's, the whole auto extraction is -- when i had to do it, i was like oh my goodness, thank goodness somebody was pointing, now you do this, now you do this. and then the car is basically disassembled, and you can exget out the person. i thought it would be easier. >> there's science to it. >> so do we thank these entities that give us these old cars to use in the exercises? >> do we thank them, of course? >> yes. but is it more than a handshake? do they get a letter? >> good evening, president.

chief. deputy chief, division of training. it's part of a contract we have with auto return who does the to youing for the city that they -- towing for the city that they have cars for us. >> it seems they have quite a few available, and that's very helpful to us. i also had one other question. let's see. a very quick one. oh, on page 6, you mention the job corp., 25 students took a tour of the training facility. are you aware of how many students from job corps maybe gone into the academy? >> i can find out for you.

>> that would be a very good thing to know. i don't have any other questions at this time. so thanks again for your report. >> thank you. >> madame secretary. >> item 6, commission report. report on commission activities since last meeting on february 12, 2020. >> thank you. commissioners, what have you been up to that you would like to share? [laughter] commissioner rodriguez. >> i guess, you know, you're tired of hearing me say this, but i'm the new kid on the block. and i'm still learning. i've already shared with a number of you that growing up, you watch a fire department, you watch what goes on, and you really never really know. you just kind of take it for granted that it works. but coming to this position, i'm starting to learn that there's a

lot of parts that make it work. the thing about a fire is the same for me. you watch stuff on tv, and you really never know. it happens, and firemen put it out. so yesterday when i went to station 5, and we went out, first we went to -- well, it wasn't a false alar, i guess somebody set -- alarm, i guess somebody set off a fire detecter. and the chief asked me to go to fourth and fulton. and i have to say, chief, because i stood next to him the whole time, and there was so many moving parts. and he explained what everybody was doing. and everybody, for as many firemen and women that were there, they all knew what they were doing. there was just no, not wasted motion, but i mean -- and i used to work in the construction, and

you would have 100 people working, and sometimes they didn't know what they were doing. they were just kind of -- but there yesterday, i was really amazed. and then when it got to a certain point, he said do you want to go inside the building and look? and he already showed me how you were talking about cleaning the air. they had her drawing the stuff out. and then we went inside, and the extent of the fire was just, i couldn't believe it. but it just shows how well the fire department works when it's run right, at least for me. i mean, it was the first time i've seen it, and i was very impressed. and there was a sad part about it too, they had someone there when the lady who lived there showed up and seeing what had happened to her home, she broke down, but there were people that

came around her right away. and i guess the other part you never see was one of your firemen had a heart attack. , but the people there knew what to do, and they took them to the hospital. and from what i understand he had a couple extent -- stents p. it's a learning process. i want to commend you for what i saw yesterday. because without the people in charge running it the right way, i guess it could be chaos. so thank you again. >> thank you, commissioner rodriguez. commissioner nakajo. >> thank you very much, madame president, colleagues. i just wanted to, chief nicholson, i just wanted to report that i have been working with the black firefighters, particularly with the program that they are trying to create in terms of a mentorship program for young youth. and i just wanted to report that i think i'm going to be

approached in terms of needing support and assistance in terms of concepts of working to create empowerment with these thing members who are going to be a part of this program. it escapes me what the name of the program was. opportunities for all. thank you very much, chief nicholson. i wanted to report to president covington and to the colleagues and to the department that that work is now being processed to where hopefully there's some activity behind it. thank you very much, madame president. >> very good. thank you. and commissioner cleveland. >> thank you, madame president. just wanted to report to my fellow commissioners that we did have interviews with the candidates for the position for the department. and we will continue those discussions later this evening. but it was dr. ye, chief velo,

chief nicholson and myself that were involved in the interviews with the physician candidates. the other thing is the guardians of the city, we had a discussion, and i participated on phone with the group, and i think we'll have a letter of agreement that olivia is putting together that will bind the two organizations together in a more proper format so we know who is responsible for what. and i think that's going to be a really big step in the direction. so that's my report. >> very good. thank you. i think that everyone is doing wonderful work. commissioners are very involved. and the life of the department, it's not a nine to five department or an eight to five department. and i appreciate you all getting

out there and mixing and learning and contributing. so thank you all very much. madame secretary. oh, sorry, is there any public comment on the comments of the commissioners? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> item 7, agenda for next and future fire commission meetings. >> what do we have so far as possibilities, madame secretary? >> lieutenant baxter is scheduled to do a presentation on outreach efforts. and we received an e-mail from the city attorney regarding a closed session settlement to discuss. >> all right. great. well, those are things that will go on the agenda for next time. are there any other suggestions? concerns, comments? okay. none at this time. thank you.

public comment on future agenda items? okay, public comment is closed. >> item 8, public comment on item 9. public comment on all matters pertaining to item 9 below including public comment on whether to hold item 9b in closed session. >> thank you. commissioners. >> i make a motion that we go into closed session regarding this public employee appointment. >> thank you. >> is there any public comment? >> is there any public comment? public comment is closed. second? >> second. >> second from vice president feinstein. and all in favor of going into closed session at this time please signify by saying

>> we are live. we are back in open session. the time is 8:24. item 11, vote to elect whether to disclose any or all discussions held in closed session. >> thank you. i need a motion. >> i make a motion we do not disclose our discussions made in private in closed session today. >> is there a second? >> second. >> thank you. that's a nondisclosure. madame secretary, is there anything else? >> item 12, adjournment. >> okay. thank you. before we adjourn, before i entertain a motion to adjourn, i would like to adjourn this evening's meeting in honor of the two firefighters that were killed in the line of duty.

they were captain ramon and firefighter patrik jones. >> so moved, madame chair. >> thank you. >> second. >> and all in favor of adjournment? >> aye. >> we are adjourned. thank you all very much. [please stand by]

>> chair fewer: good morning, ur everyone. the meeting will come to order. this is the february 26 meeting of the budget and finance committee. i would like to thank corwin and colina. madam clerk, do we have any announcements?

>> clerk: yes. [agenda item read]. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. madam clerk, can you please call item 5. >> clerk: yes. item 5 is a resolution authorizing the mayor's office of housing and community development to accept and expend a gift of $100,000 from san francisco 722 montgomery. >> chair fewer: supervisor peskin, do you have anything you would like to add? >> supervisor peskin: i would like to thank steven sang for accommodating my request for this additional $100,000 on top of the inclusionary fees and interest and the mayor's office of housing for preparing for the accept and expend and

recommend it to you for full recommendation to the board of supervisors. >> chair fewer: thank you. is amy chan here from mohcd? okay. supervisor peskin, is this something that you want to present on since emmy chan is not in the audience today? >> supervisor peskin: so yeah, sure, i'm happy to present. this is a gift to the affordable housing fund of the city and county of san francisco in the amount of $100,000 from the developer of 722 montgomery street. >> chair fewer: okay. no b.l.a. report on this. any questions or comments from my colleagues? seeing none, let's make a motion to move this to the full board with a positive recommendation. [gave [gavel].

>> chair fewer: madam clerk, please call item 1. [agenda item read] [agenda item read] [agenda item read]. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. we have michelle and luke from the controller's office presenting today. >> yes. good morning, members of the committee. thank you for hearing this item. just to introduce it briefly, this is a resolution authorizing issuance of general

obligation refunding bonds. it was to be heard at the february 12 meeting of this committee, and we asked for it to be continued until today because we had some technical amendments that needed to be made upon the advice of our bond counsel and the city attorney's office which we've distributed to you in a red line for your review. upon review by the city attorney's office, they've deemed them nonsubstantive technical amendments, so we're hoping, supervisor, that you off one of your colleagues could approve the resolution that we've given to you and recommended the amended version out of committee today. >> chair fewer: excuse me. are these amendments substantive? >> the city attorney has

determined they're not. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. >> additionally, upon coordination with the budget and legislative analyst's office, we understand that they're going to be recommending some additional minor technical changes to the language in this resolution. they're not incorporated in the red line that we gave to you, but we -- when they make the recommendation, we are aware of what the recommendations will be, and we have no concerns, so they're acceptable to us, as well. >> chair fewer: thank you. >> so if there are any questions specifically about the amendments that we're proposing, i or mark lake, the city attorney on the transaction, is here to speak to those. if there are not, my colleague, luke, is going to present the proposal that we're submitting

today. >> good morning. i'm going to be presenting on items number 1 and 3, which is the funding resolution, and my colleague will be presenting on item 2. this presentation has both of them, so -- so the item before you is authorizing the refunding bonds from time to time. general obligation bonds, the city has numerous bonds outstanding, and they have provisions in them that allow us to refinance them. general -- them every eight to ten years that they're outstanding. so currently in the next five years, there are the opportunity to refund 1

appointnot-to-exceed resolutio. there's also -- of the $1.48 billion which can be refunded, we're also looking to approve the first sale with a not-to-exceed amount of $255 million. the resolution authorizes and directs o.p.f. to determine which bonds should be determined to be refunded bonds. the refunding bonds must not have a final maturity date later than the maturity date of

the bonds to be refunded, and the cost must not exceed 2%, and underage cost must not exceed 3%. the office of public finance must return to the board with each supplemental appropriation with the request to issue funding bonds. this authority to issue refunding bonds under the refundi refunding resolution expires june 30, 2025. so here's a summary of the bonds that we are proposing to refund this coming spring. there's two series of eser, two from parks 2008, and safety from 2011.

we're currently estimating based on markets back in late january that the gross savings to taxpayers would be approximately $31.64 million based on an estimated interest rate of 2.19% on a net present value based of the case flow save -- cash flow savings, we're looking at about 11% of the funded bonds, which is well above the 3% threshold that this funding resolution requires. we are seeking the approval of the sale of the initial series in addition to the full authorization over the five years not to exceed $255 million. final maturity is the final maturity of the bonds, which is june 30, 2025. the source and uses here are

estimated sources and uses provided to us by our municipal advisor and do not associate directly with the appropriation ordinance which was prepared earlier in january in order to get everything on the same timeline, that is a not-to-exceed amount, which we do not anticipate issuing all of. so as far as timeline, we've introduced, back in january, our -- we're expecting the board to hear the approval for the resolution next week and the first reading of the ordinance next week followed by the final appropriation the next -- the follow along with the final closing of the refunding bonds in march and april, which allows us to refund the bonds on their very first call date of june 15, 2020. any questions? >> chair fewer: any questions or comments from my colleagues? seeing none, could we have the b.l.a. report, please. >> good morning, chair fewer

and members of the committee. severin campbell from the budget and legislative analyst's office. these changes are largely due to changes in securities and exchange commission's requirements, so the language in the debt policy conforms with those requirements. but i do -- we do actually recommend a change to the resolution itself. this resolution as written would allow changes to the debt policy, not only for minor changes, but for more resolution changes without coming back to the board of supervisors. that would continue to allow the department to make amendments or changes to the debt policy if they are specific to regulatory changes or legal changes, but more discretionary changes just as

best practices would need to come back to the board for approval. and then, on the other two items, item 1 and 3, item 1 is a resolution authorizing funding bonds through 2025, and issuing $255 million through those bonding funds. the total amount to be refunded are shown on page 8 of our report. the actual bonds that would be refunded or proposed to be refunded by the $255 million to be sold this spring are shown in exhibit 1 on page 5 of our report. and then, the appropriation of those bonds is shown on page 6, and we can answer any questions you have about that. again, we do have a couple of recommendations to the resolution approving the issuance of $1.5 billion in

funding bonds. both of these are more for clarification, and we recommend approval as amended. >> chair fewer: so the amendment that you are proposing is for item number 1, that is correct, miss severin? >> we have a proposal for item number 1, the refunding bonds, and for item number 2, the debt policy. >> chair fewer: so madam clerk, we didn't call item number 2, would you please call item number 2 right now. >> clerk: yes. [agenda item read]. >> chair fewer: so colleagues, we are now listening -- we are now hearing items 1, 2, and 3 together, and is there a separate presentation for item number 2? there is.

>> there is. >> chair fewer: okay. so let's hear that all together since we have recommendations from the b.l.a. for items 1 and 2. >> okay. just in brief, this is also continued from -- item number 2 is continued from the february 12 budget and finance hearing. from time to time, the office of public finance needs to update its -- the city's debt policy due to changes in regulatory or industry policies. so when they update that policy, we bring it back to the board for approval. that was what we were intending to do. we brought this back on january 28, and just before the last hearing, the s.e.c. issued a new legal guidance which required us to review what we had submitted for introduction, and working with our city attorney's office, the changes

to the guidance recommended a change to index i which concerns municipal finance disclosure policies and practices, and so i've submitted a copy of the changes as introduction to appendix i. you can see the red line of the changes that we're submitting since introduction. the amendment is only to this appendix i, there's no requested change to the legislation itself. however, as ms. campbell noted, the b.l.a. has recommendations to the resolution, and we find those recommendations acceptable. more specifically, to speak to the updates since the last board approved version of the board policy, my colleague, ana, is here to speak to what has changed since the last time the board approved the debt.

>> chair fewer: thank you. >> thank you. i'm director of the controller's office of public finance. we've long maintained a formal written debt policy. it establishes our formal objectives such as maintaining moderate debt service levels while maintaining our highest practical credit rating. it further requires us to establish internal controls and procedures and demonstrate a commitment to best practices in municipal debt planning issuance and management. so got a few -- a couple powerpoint slides. as a reminder, we were also here last january for updates to the use of proceeds designation as well as extending the term for general obligation bonds for affordable housing loans. and the next slide, we go through the updates -- some of

the key updates that we're presenting here today that we're asking for your approval. specifically, those are as noted. we're finding the city's disclosure practices, which are detailed in appendix i. additionally, wanted to note that a board of supervisors disclosure training has been scheduled for april 7, and during that, the city attorney's office will review our practices. another change in the policy would allow for the use of negotiated sales for complex refinancings. just terminations to sale bonds requires consultation with the controller and the city's municipal advisor or advisors as well as a competitive process for underwriter

selection. and with that, i am happy to answer any questions on the city's debt policy. >> chair fewer: okay. so colleagues, any comments or questions? seeing none, let's open this up for public comment. are there any members of the public that would like to comment on items 1, 2, or 3? seeing none, public comment is now closed. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: i first would like to make a motion to approve the amendments to items number 1 and 2, is that correct? yes, and we can take that without objection. thank you very much. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: and then i'd like to approve the amendments presented by the b.l.a. and items 1 and 2, if we can take that without objection? thank you very much. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: and no comments on this complex item? yes, sir. >> we're also asking for

approval of item number 3. >> chair fewer: yes, but item number 3 has no amendments, correct? we just approved the amendments. i'd like to make a motion to approval items 1, 2, and 3 to the full board with a positive recommendation. if we can do that without objection, colleagues. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: madam clerk, if you can call item 4. >> item 4, resolution approving san francisco municipal transportation agent contract for armed and unarmed security guard services with universal protection service l.p., in an amount not to exceed 59,028,401 for a three-year term to commence on the effective date following board are

professional with three one-year options to extend at the discretion of the director of transportation. >> chair fewer: and i believe we have glen mar for a presentation. thank you, mr. mar. i believe your request for armed and unarmed services are for your locations only, is that correct? >> yes. >> chair fewer: okay. go ahead with your intention. >> good morning, supervisors. i am glen mar, chief security officer. so i'm here to talk about the carr. our agency approaches security for our employees and for our customers in a multitiered fashion. ultimately, the contract security is the main one we're talking about today, but we also approach it through

capital improvements, muni transits. we also address it through p.o.p., training for staff members, and also a partnership with sfpd. so today, we're going to talk just about the security contract which deals primarily with the safety and security of our members. i conducted an assessment of 12 facilities, and out of them, nine of those were severely lacking in security. what i mean by severely lacking, there were security guards, but only for certain hours of the day. so during the times that security guard security guards weren't there, employees had to deal with other issues, homeless getting into the facility, using rest rooms, stealing items from the

lockers, feces and urine issues they had to deal with. some of our facilities had no security officers, so that's why we wanted to up the manpower and hours for most of these facilities. so the next page is a contractual review of what this contract will be. the vendor is allied universal security services. it was formerly cypress, but it was taken over in june 2018 by allied. >> chair fewer: excuse me, mr. mar. would you like to put this up on sfgovtv? >> i'm sorry. >> chair fewer: thank you. >> so here's the overview of the contract that we're proposing to you today. it's not to exceed 28 milli

million -- 59 million for a three year contract. here, we have the overview -- i think there's a lot of numbers up there, but i think the one we should concentrate on is the service hours. based on my assessment and what we talked about earlier about the need for all of these facilities, the nine facilities we did the assessment on, we want to increase it to approximately $233,000 per year, which is roughly a 25% increase. here we have another chart, and there's a lot of numbers, but please concentrate on the number in the lower right hand

corner. our current cost is $6.7 million for security services from allied. and because of our security concerns, and the employees that we want to increase that, 233,000 would increase it to $8.5 million, up to 10.2 million due to the increase in wages and also the increase in manpower. so why do we want this contract approved? as i've talked about earlier, it's so, so important that we show to our employees that we actually care about their safety first. so for the last eight to nine months that i was with the agency, i received numerous phone calls and numerous e-mails where they were concerned about their employees' safety. i think with this contract, it

would be a big step forwardtor tforwardtor -- forward for the city and for the agency that we show our employees that we care about them, so i ask that you approve this contract. that concludes my presentation, and i'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. so let's hear from the b.l.a., please. >> yes. the board of supervisors is being asked to approve the resolution to approve this new contract for security services at m.t.a. as mr. mar pointed out, the provider would be allied universal, but if you see on table one, page ten of our report, the existing provider, cypress provide security had the highest -- private security had the highest score, but offer the conclusion before -- but after the conclusion before you, they were purchased by

allied universal. mr. mar reported on the increase in hours in this contract compared to the existing contract. we show the total number of hours on page 11 of our report. but also in our footnote, we note where there would be an increase in hours at existing m.t.a. facilities. what they needed was a decide for increased hours. the total spending is summarized on page 12, table three in our report. we do request that the total amount of $28 million is for one year, and the $59 million is over six years, and we recommend approval. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. can we -- oh, supervisor walton.

>> supervisor walton: thank you very much. one question. on slide three, when it talks about security, making sure to address homeless encampments, and also address confrontations with individuals with mental health needs, how does that work? how do they engage? >> so how does it work with security? >> supervisor walton: yeah. when they see an encampment, when they see someone with mental health needs, how do they engage? >> so that's a very good question. right now, when security sees these individuals starting to set up camp, if they're around, they would confront the individuals and tell them that they're not allowed to set up camp here, and they would talk to them and coerce them not to set up camp. the problem is when there's no security there, that they do set up camp, and then, by the time the employees get to work, the employees run in to them, and they have to confront them themselves. the security guards are trained in deeffect training prior to

going to the sfmta, so they're very well trained in getting them to not set up on the property. >> supervisor walton: and if that doesn't work? >> if they feel their safety is in jeopardy, they immediately call sfpd and have them intervene. >> supervisor walton: would they also act with hsoc and other agencies? >> yes. hsoc has been helping out at our facilities with very largen campments but security is also -- large encampments, by security is also there.

we stop it from the very beginning with the new security services, and i think that takes care of a lot of the problems for the employees. >> chair fewer: so i have a few questions. one is that -- so this is security for 12 facilities, is that correct? >> it's security for all our facilities, but the increase is for nine of our facilities that i made the assessments that needed it the most. >> chair fewer: okay. so how many facilities, then, would this contract cover? this isn't just for the nine facilities? >> correct. this is for everything, including the subway. so the subway -- i forgot to mention the subway is one of the places that's extremely lacking. one officer currently covers nine platform, which is very inadequate. it covers a subway, and it covers a multitude of facilities throughout the agency. i'm not sure of the total number, but i think it's at

least 22. >> 22 total facilities? >> correct. >> and this is a $59 million contract if extended. >> no. it's $28 million for three years, and we have three one-year options to extend it. if we extend it for all of it, it's 59 million. >> chair fewer: do you have other security measures such as cameras? >>

>> no, i don't. >> chair fewer: because i think it would help us to see just how big is this issue? i see it's for unarmed, the most. the majority of the budget is for unarmed, but you do have a budget for armed. now who are those people that carrie firearms or allowed to use those firearms? is it sfpd?

who are these folks that are armed actually? >> so for the contract for security contract, the only armed services that we use is strictly for employees that deal with cash. so revenue collection is all that the armed guards are accompanying employees with. so when they go out and collection, the armed guards that are with them are armed. this was made clear to us in the last contract. it has nothing to do with the public, it has to do with the employees dealing with cash. >> chair fewer: escort. >> that's correct. >> chair fewer: so this company actually supplies the armed guards. >> correct. >> chair fewer: because they

have the liability. >> correct. >> chair fewer: all right. let's open this up for public comment. are there any members of the public that wish to comment on item 4? yes. come up to the podium. anyone who's like to speak -- who'd like to speak to public comment. everybody has two minutes. thank you very much. >> good morning, board of supervisors. my name is hajik rice, and i have been working as an armed officer since 2018. my current employer is a.u.s., and they are a signatory to my union contract. we protect life and revenue daily. my co-workers and i face the challenges of deterring suspicious people. even though we experience this, i take pride in being able to protect and escort cash and revenue agents because my job is critical to ensure the safety of the general public and daily operations of sfmta. i argue to commit to keeping a

responsible contractor like a.u.s. so that my co-workers and i can continue to address work related issues and continue to bargain for stronger contracts that ensure good benefits. thank you. >> chair fewer: thank you, sir. >> good morning, board of supervisors. my name's brendall guin, and i represent the security officers, armed and unarmed in san francisco. i've been working this past year with the subcontracted officers working with a.u. s.-sfmta. daily they protect the city while working with long hours. some of these officers, they struggle with housing and health care. despite this, the officers

present today show passion and dedication to protecting the public. i urge you to approve a union company like a.u.s. so our members continue to have a voice at work and job protections with paid sick days, holidays, and a grievance procedure. can we count on your support to keep our responsible contractor like a.u.s. for our security officers? thank you. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good morning. roger marenko. we are in support of more security, especially because these are all union jobs.

however, in terms of what mr. mar stated, people coming into the facilities, urinating, defecating, etc., i'd like everyone to know that the most prominent property of the sfmta where this occurs at is the buses. so i'd like the members to think about not only extending this to the actual buildings but to the actual buses, to the trains, whether it's, you know, security guards at strategic locations on market street, in the tenderloin, on market -- on mission street, right, at certain terminals, but where this is actually occurring on a daily basis, with are wihere w challenges with mentally

disabled people because this is where this occurs at the most on a daily basis. i would just like everybody to think about where this occurs on a grand scale of everything. does it occur at the facilities? yes, but it occurs more often on the buses themselves. thank you. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is now closed. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: okay. so i'd like to make a motion to approve the amendments that have been brought forth to b.l.a. and can we do that without objection? [gavel]. >> chair fewer: oh, and i'd like to welcome supervisor matt haney. madam clerk, do i need to excuse supervisor walton? >> clerk: yes, please. >> chair fewer: okay. before we take this vote, i'd like to make a motion to excuse supervisor walton. if i can take that without objection, thank you very much.

[gavel]. >> chair fewer: welcome, supervisor matt haney. so we've had a motion to approve the amendments brought forth by the b.l.a. we can take that without objection, thank you very much. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: and make a motion to bring this to the full board with a positive recommendation. thank you very much. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: we've already heard item 5, so madam clerk, can you please call item 6. >> clerk: item 6, resolution authorizing tax collector to sell at public auction certain parcels of tax defaulted real property. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. and i believe we have molly cohen here. >> good morning, supervisors. molly cohen from the office of

treasurer and tax collector. i am here to present for your approval 165 parcels we are seeking to offer for auction in may. you've all been provided copies of an updated parcel list. if i can request that the new parcel list that's been provided please replace the list provided with the resolution. it replaces 429 parcels of all times with 165 timeshare parcels. property becomes eligible for auction when an owner fails to play taxes for five years. the parcels i bring before you

are a tiny percentage of the 290,000 total parcels. we collect over 3.3 billion in property tax payments annually, and over 99% of owners pay their property tax bills on time and in full. so before you for consideration today are 165 parcels that are five years or more delinquent on taxes. we are doing a timeshare only auction because timeshares are a unique property. there is no risk of displacement. commercial operators and homeowners associations are the main buyers. the resolution allows for a reoffering at a lower price if there are no successful bidders during the first round. in 2019, we offered 213 time shares during a reoffer auction, and sold 187, removing

them from our defaulted tax roll and returning them to paying status. this auction will likely result in the removal of a significant number of parcels from delinquency. removes these timeshares from our roll will allow us to dedicate our time to other properties. once approved, this list will be published in a newspaper and on our website. thank you for your time, and i'm here to answer any questions. >> chair fewer: there's no b.l.a. report, and no questions from my colleagues. let's open this up for public comment. are there any members of the public that would like to comment on this? seeing none, public comment is closed. i just have one question. this just seems incredible that

they would be delinquent on their taxes for five years, this volume of people or purchasers of these time shares. for five years, it just seems somewhat incredible. what's going on with 1000 pine? >> so there's 5,000 timeshares total in the city. what ends up happening is a lot of these timeshares come with very expensive maintenance and ownership fees. people will pay their 1,000 timeshare fees, they'll skip a year, and once they stop paying their ownership fees, they lose access to the property, and they stop paying their property

taxes. many people on these lists are retirees. it turns out that many of them have passed away, and their children are uninterested in paying for the property. so despite our best efforts and all of our notices, it comes to this actually. >> chair fewer: so is there any way we can curtail this? five years is a long time to be on any list? i'm wondering if there's no liability for the timeshare company at all? >> that's a really interesting question. much of our process is guided by state law, but i'm happy to do some thinking about city attorney and get back to you on that. >> chair fewer: okay. thank you. we've already had public comment, so i'd like to make a motion to move this to the full

board with a positive recommendation. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: okay. i'd like to make a motion to rescind to item 5. we failed to ask for public comment, so may i have -- i'm making a motion to rescind item number 5. thank you, colleagues. madam clerk, can you please item 5. >> clerk: yes. item 5 is a resolution authorizing the mayor's office of housing and community development to accept and expend a gift of $100,000 from san francisco 722 month famili montgomery funds. >> chair fewer: thank you.

do we have any public comment on this? seeing none, public comment is closed. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: madam clerk, can we call item 7 first. >> clerk: item 7 is resolution approving modification number one to airport contract 50085 curb side management services with fspppm management, llc, to increase the contract amount by 10 million for a new not to exceed amount of 19 million and to exercise the one one-year option to extend the term from july 1, 2020 through june 20, 2021. >> modification number one would exercise the first

one-year option through june 2021 and increase the contract amount by $10.4 million. this is the result of a 2016 competitive request for proposals process and was approved by the board of supervisors with an initial term of four years with one four-year option to extend. the increase in the not-to-exceed amount includes staffing expansions that were use to approve the airport's move of all transportation network companies to the fifth floor of our domestic terminal garage. this was done to help us relieve some of the congestion that we were experiencing at the terminal curbs. in addition, there was a new

staging lot that was created as t.m.c.s in the waiting lot was backing up into millbrae avenue as well as extensions into our new t.m.c. lots and the taxi staging area and the airport's new hotel. the trip fees that are collected from our ground transportation operators are used to fund this contract. the budget analyst's office has reviewed the contract and the proposed modification and recommends approval, but if requested, i would be happy to answer any questions if you have them. >> chair fewer: thank you. can we hear from the b.l.a. office, please. >> yes, the current contract extends it one year, to 2021,

and increases the amount from 19.5 million to 29.5 million. the increase of $10 million is to account for increased spending over the remaining two years. the increase goes up from 5.5 million in 18-19 to a projected 6 million in 19-20. the reason is for an increase in positions from 74 positions to 96 positions under the contract. we did talk to the airport about it. did does have to do with the increase in garages and curb side management of the t.n.c. and increased t.n.c. activity at the airport, uber, lyft, and

other transport network company providers. so the increase in the budget is shown on page 17, and we recommend approval. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. any comments or questions from my colleagues? let's open this up for public comment. any members of the public like to comment on item number 7? seeing none, public comment is now closed. miss widener, i actually have some questions about this contract. it is almost a $30 million contract, and i think i need more clarification or a deeper understanding of what these people -- what they're performing, what their jobs are. it seems like it's more than curb side. you mentioned a motel, you mentioned a parking lot, and some of the positions, also. so i'd like to continue this item until the next meeting of the budget and finance committee. we can take that -- i'd like a motion to continue that item. i can take that without objection. thank you very much, miss

widener. we should have a conversation. thank you very much. >> absolutely. >> chair fewer: i appreciate that. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: madam clerk, can you please call item 8? >> clerk: yes. item 8, resolution amoving modification 2 to license and services agreement 50037 between the city and county to extend the services term of the agreement for use of application based for three years through march 20, 2023, reduce the cap of the administrative services fee from 250,000 to an amount not to compete 144,000 annually for the period of march 13, 2020 through march 12, 2023 for an aggregate amount not to exceed 1,682,000 for the total term of march 12, 205 through march 12,

2023. >> chair fewer: thank you. and we have kathy widener from the airport. >> this system was invented by s.f.o. staff, and the airport recently received a u.s. patent, so we're pretty proud of that. the licensing agreement was originally approved by the board of supervisors in 2015 for an initial two-year term with three one-year options to extend through march 12 of this year. the system defines a perimeter around the airport using geographic coordinates and collects t.n.c. data that helps us in our auditing process to make sure that the right amount of trip fees are collected from various companies. modification would extend the contract for another three

years through march 12, 2023. it caps the amount that s.f.o. would pay, from 150,000 to 144,000. we collect 55 million in t.n.c. trip fees -- we collected 55 million last year based on this system. the system has been very successful in maintaining a geofence and providing airports with audited information to validate our t.n.c. trip information. the proposed modification does reduce the administrative fees and also allows s.f.o. to continue to collect service development fees through ards when they license the technology to other airports. the budget analyst's office has reviewed the agreement and the proposed modification and

recommends approval, and i'd be happy to answer questions. >> chair fewer: thank you, miss widener. can we hear from the b.l.a., please. >> yes. this approves the second existing agreement between the airport and the nonprofit airport research and development foundation. so this action and service and license agreement does three things. it uses the application or technology developed by the airport to actually record trip fees by t.n.c.s as they enter the airport. currently, i think it's about $4.5 per trip, and then, the airport would pay a fee to the foundation under the agreement. so the original agreement was approve ind approved in 2015, and then, the option was approved in 2017, extending it through march of this year, march 2020. so the proposed resolution would extend it for an

additional three years -- actually extend it through 2025 -- 2023, with an additional two-year extension to 2025. it increases the total amount to be paid by the airport in foundations in fees, the actually annual fee reduces from 150,000 per year to 144,000 per year. the summary of the current terms of the agreement over the next three years are shown on page 20, table one of our report, and we recommend approval. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. let's open this up for public comment. any members of the public like to comment on item 8? seeing none, public comment is closed. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: colleagues, any comments or questions? congratulations to s.f.o. on their patent. i'd like to make a motion to

move this to the full board with a positive recommendation, if we can take that without objection. thank you very much, colleagues. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: madam clerk, can you please call item 9. >> clerk: item 9 is a resolution retroactively authorizing the police department to accept and expend a grant in the amount of 29 the 8,414 from the department of homeland security federal emergency management agency to purchase an underwater remote operates vehicle for the period of sept 1, 2019 through august 31, 2022. >> i'm from supervisor stefani's office. she's homesick today. this is a grant for an underwater vehicle to replace the existing remote operated vehicle.

this allows us to exist and mitigation underwater threats, create sweeps for the pier system without having to deploy human divers, and provide post incident underwater surveillance of infrastructure. as i said, the one that they would be purchasing to replace is an improvement over the old one, and it would be the only one in the region with the inability to -- ability to navigate the swift forces in the san francisco bay. i'm joined by patrick leong of the san francisco police department and several members from the marine unit to answer any questions you may have. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. mr. leong, do you have anything to add to what was presented? >> yes. within the budget for this grant, the award is for 298,000. there is a 25% match. as far as the budget is

concerned, this project included -- or the grant project includes an optional support grant for 25,000. for future years, that would be at the department's discretion if we choose to continue the support plan, and it is optional. it would be at our discretion. however, the -- it is not a requirement. >> chair fewer: okay. so mr. leong, are you saying this 25,000 support plan is included in 298 or that is an additional? >> it -- the total budget for this project is 39 -- approximately $398,000. >> chair fewer: so only $400,000 for the total project? >> correct. and it includes -- it includes

a one-year support plan. >> chair fewer: this includes the $25,000 one-year support plan. >> correct. >> chair fewer: and it requires a renewal of the one-year support plan, and the police department would absorb those costs? >> yes. >> chair fewer: and why is this retroactive? >> it's only retroactive because of the grant start date, so it was 9 -- 9-1 is the state date. 9 -- start date, 9-1-2019, not because we've started any activities. >> chair fewer: okay. mr. leong, that doesn't tell me why it's retroactive. >> we haven't gone through the grant start process. the grant start date is

9-1-2019. >> chair fewer: so why didn't you present this before 9-1 -- >> we didn't receive the award until after 9-1. >> chair fewer: you didn't receive it until after 9-1? >> i don't recall when we received it, but it was after 9-1-2019. for the grant -- >> do you mind if i jump in? >> sure. >> it's a grant approved by the department of homeland security. i don't know the date that we received an approval, but they gave us an approval period that started 9-1-2019. we received approval after that fact, and the expend period ends in 2022. so they have not done any activity on the grant. it's just that the department of homeland security gave us an approval beginning on a date before we received the approval. >> chair fewer: okay. so i guess my question, as you

know, when this comes to the full board, any time there's something retroactive -- >> as happened yesterday. >> chair fewer: as happened yes, there is always one board member that will question this. >> yes. >> chair fewer: so my question is, if this was actually accepted in september, why are we hearing about it in 2020? mr. patrick, this is a question that you will need to be prepared to answer and not put off. >> sure. it has to do with the length of time it takes to present and expend a grant resolution, to get to our police commission, to calendar it, to the budget and finance committee, and then before it goes to the board of supervisors, that process, for us, it takes a minimum of three

months. and so by virtue of that time schedule, it makes this a retroactive approval. it doesn't mean -- normally, retroactive is -- it has -- it refers to the timing difference between when the accept and expend is approved versus when is the grant award start date. and so because we can't -- >> chair fewer: when is the grant award start date? >> 9-1-2019. >> chair fewer: so mr. leong, i just want to be perfectly transparent with you to say that if it was a start date, that you tell me it takes you three months for your department to go through an accept and expend is somewhat

unacceptable, and the fact that now it's five months since that, i think to bring that to us retroactively, i just want to say i think it's a little -- i don't think your reasoning actually is somewhat valid. i actually do think the departments approve the accept and expend grants all the time. it's because they're notified later and this is because it's retroactive. okay. so i just want to caution you that before you go before the full board that you may want to have a conversation perhaps with the sponsor and figure that out. i am just telling you for this hearing today, i think this should have been brought before the budget and finance

committee before, but i'm just going to caution you that if this goes before the full board, they will question you. >> we did intend to try to speed up that process, but some of what delayed the resolution was when we calendared it for our police commission, it was around the same time that we had -- we were preparing our budget, but also, at the same time, it was during the holidays, and so some of that has to do with the holiday schedule and getting the necessary approvals before we reached that step. >> chair fewer: thank you, mr. leong. and so the total request for this is almost $400,000, and the grant request is 298. and i am hearing from officers that actually, this is a piece of equipment that is being --

that is used on a somewhat regular basis and that actually it complements the services of our existing coast guard and other jurisdictions that might have similar equipment, is that correct, mr. leong? >> that would be correct. >> chair fewer: and then i'm hearing that the equipment that we've had before is aging, and although this takes minimal from the officers -- from what i'm heard, it takes minimal maintenance, that the police department will absorb the future cost of the maintenance, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> chair fewer: okay. let's open this up for public comment. is there any member of the public that would like to comment on item 9? seeing none, public comment is closed. are there any comments or questions from my colleagues? seeing no comments or questions from my colleagues, i'd like to

make a motion to seforward thi to the full board with a positive recommendation, and we can do that without objection. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: madam clerk, would you call the next item. >> supervisor haney: chair fewer, if it's possible, can i make a few comments before they present because i have to run. i want to thank in advance everyone who's here and who brought this proposal forward. i've been in meetings with representatives from the department and am happy to see the support from the neighborhood for this proposed center and also the work that the department has done to take some of the feedback and integrate that into what's before us today. i -- as you -- as i've made

very clear and very supportive of navigation centers in general, and i know that this particular area around 33 gough is an area that has a significant amount of neighborhood homelessness and is in need of additional services. this old city college building has long been a concern for neighborhood residents and businesses, and it is a very positive thing to see it transformed and used to serve so many people in need. i have a fee amendments that we're going to be putting forward that i think are in front of everybody. there's a couple things that i do want to flag that relate to the amendments and also to some other issues that i want to make sure to put on the record. one of the -- i do think that we are learning in terms of the importance of doing extensive neighborhood outreach and community meetings. i do want to say that if we can do more of that with the neighborhood before it's

announced, it is always a positive thing. i personally found out about this navigation center proposal i think the day before it was announced, and i also just want to say that for the engage the with the supervisor's office and the surrounding constituents that having more opportunity for a collaborative effort and input and engagement on the front end is a positive thing. i also -- and i brought this up with the department -- really do think it's important to have a significant commitment to have a zone around the navigation center, and i know that there is a commitment to that and we're working on that together. i also believe it's important that we consider the opportunity to provide a more diverse set of referrals to the navigation center. i think when we only have referrals that come from hsoc or law enforcement or even hot teams, we may be missing an

opportunity to collaborate with neighborhood and community organizations who can provide access and who know individuals and work directly with individuals already who can benefit from the services and transitional housing that a navigation center can provide. so the proposed set of amendments are on page 3 of the resolution that have been made. one that the departments and district supervisors have agreed to convene regular meetings with the surrounding vicinity including but not limited to the number of people served and outcomes. the service provider has agreed to establish a good neighbor policy for the navigation center, and the neighborhood has created an outreach zone and will offer an outreach and initial priority to the

unhoused neighbors in the vicinity. i think there are a number of navigation centers in this surrounding area, and i'm hopeful that we will continue to build these throughout the city, but this is a neighborhood that will benefit from these services and opportunities, and there are a number of people who are unhoused in this area who will be able to access services, shelter, and a transition to housing as a result of us activating a piece of property that has remained vacant for some amount of time, so thank you for your hard work and everything that went into this. i apologize that i have to leave early before this, but i'd like to be added as a cosponsor. >> chair fewer: thank you. and so we have gigi whitley. >> good morning. gigi whitley, director of the

office of finance and supportive housing. thank you to the committee for your hearing us through this proposed resolution that would propose -- that would approve a lease between the city and the property operated at 33 gough street for the proposed upper market safe navigation center at an annual lease cost of 1.259 million. i will give a brief presentation. i also have with me the director of the department of real estate, and we can answer any questions you may have. you're well aware, from my last presentation, about a week ago or two weeks ago the crisis on our streets. i won't revisit those comments, but i do want to thank the committee for your unanimous support and approval of the t.a.y. navigation center that passed the board yesterday. that project and this project at 33 gough will allow us to

meet the city's goals and the mayor's initiative of 1,000 new beds opening by 2020, which will allow us to increase capacity -- [inaudible] >> -- as all of our programs are predominantly run by our nonprofit providers. this will really operate as an outreach triage center a little bit differently than our other navigation centers. like all our navigation centers, it would offer 24-7 access to clients, but no referrals, only by referral, no walk-ins. we always have a good neighbor policy, but we are learning through the navigation centers we've done recently, the t.a.n.

navigation center and this new site how to really refine our good neighbor policy and some of our outreach protocols so that there's a lot of community support for this new project. >> chair fewer: miss whitley, so supervisor mandelman and myself, my office, have been briefed on this item, too. >> okay. >> chair fewer: so i think what we would like to hear also, just briefly, do you have anything that you wanted to add? nothing at all? okay. the time schedule for this. the schedule of when this is actually going to come on board. >> okay. so just jumping on that, the idea is that once this gets approved by the full board, we could immediately proceed into construction timeline. we -- our partners at the

department of health say we could be completed by fall 2020 and be able to operate for two full years before redevelopment to permanent housing. >> chair fewer: okay. that's what we wanted to hear. can we hear from the b.l.a., please. >> yes. the leasing costs are estimated about 4.3 million over the three-year term. we show annual operating costs are about 7.5 million for actually operating the navigation center. there are some tenant improvement costs, and we actually do not know what those will be. our information is that the plans for developing this site is still in the conceptual phase. but funding for the site and

planning costs have been identified in the eraf costs. we recommend approval. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. let's open this up for public comment -- oh, supervisor mandelman? >> supervisor mandelman: you may not have the answer to this question, because i've not provided it in advance. i'm increasingly horrified by the cost that it costs the city to build bathrooms. i'm just curious how much it's going to cost to build these moti modular bathroom facilities. >> i'll have to get back to you on this. this was actually intended to be more cost efficient. >> supervisor mandelman: i sensed that. i'm just curious even with the

more efficient option costs. maybe you can provide that to me offline. >> yeah. as the budget analyst said, we don't have final cost numbers. we think it's going to be less than the similar sized navigation center at embarcadero because it is an existing structure, but happy to follow up with public works and get that information to you as soon as possible. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. >> chair fewer: thank you. let's open this up for public comment. any members of the public wish to speak on item 10? >> supervisor peskin, mandelman, and preston, they're speaking out about this in their districts, as well. why this one is not -- certainly not more important,

but we had our spidey senses go up on, it's less than 500 feet from our offices. the key is focusing the outreach center near the navigation center itself, because that will help build relationsh relationships on the street. we absolutely agree and urge this to move forward. >> chair fewer: next speaker, please. >> good morning, supervisors. moises garcia from the s.f. gay men's chorus. we're about 100 meters from the proposed site and are in support of this and others. i am bolstered by the amendments proposed by supervisor haney. just like the other speaker just said, we're really interesting in knowing what that zone is of outreach.

and we're looking forward to those individuals getting housed, both for their quality of life and our quality of life. >> chair fewer: any other memo public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor mandelman? >> supervisor mandelman: i have a question. to what extent do we think that people may start camping in the vicinity of nav centers in the hopes that they get sort of priority to be placed in nav? is that an issue? do we think it's going to happen? has it happened? >> through the chair, supervisor, let me get back to you on that. i'm not the programmatic expert, so let me get that for you. >> chair fewer: i'd like to

make a motion to approve the amendments. if we can take that without objection. thank you very much. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: and then i'd like to make a motion to move this to the full board with a positive recommendation, and we can do that without objection. [gavel]. >> chair fewer: madam clerk, is there any other business before us today? >> clerk: there is no further business before us today. >> chair fewer: and we are adjourned. [gavel]