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>> good evening, everyone. this is march 20th, 2020 meeting of the san francisco police commission. i apologize to everyone and we were experiencing quite a few technical difficulties to log on to the meeting so i'm sorry that we're getting started a little bit late. and i'm sorry that you guys can't see me right now but i'm placing my hand over my heart and if everyone else on the commission and the staff would place their hands over their heart so we can recite the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god,

indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. so we would be remiss in having a meeting in may without acknowledging that this is law enforcement memorial month. and so i would like to -- at the end of this meeting to adjourn in honor of the members of the san francisco police department who have paid the ultimate price in losing their lives in the line of duty. sergeant youngblood, can you please call roll. >> yes. so vice president taylor. >> vice-president taylor: present. >> taylor present. commissioner dejesus. >> commissioner dejesus: can you hear me? okay, present. >> commissioner hamasaki. >> commisioner hamasaki: i am here. >> clerk: hamasaki present.

commissioner elias. here. commissioner brookter. >> commissioner brookter: present. >> clerk: you have a quorum. >> vice-president taylor: thank you, and thank you again. and it's been a long time since we met and i thank the mayor for allowing us to resume our mightings virtually going forward. this ensures that the safety of the commission staff and the commissioners and the presenters and the members of the public is intact. and for the members of the public to make public comment the phone number to use is (888)-273-3658. and the access code is 3107452. we'd ask that you try to be in a quiet location and turn off any tv and the radios and if you're livestreaming the meeting via sfgov-tv to mute the sound so that the commissioners can hear you. so as you all have experienced firsthand, this is not a

seamless process so we ask that you bear with us as we try to navigate these virtual meetings. and there may be gaps or dead airtime as the staff is transitioning the technology between speakers. just know that we're doing our best and we appreciate your understanding as we do so. if they haven't already done so i ask all of the members of the commission and all presenters to mute themselves. we can minimize the background noise. commission members and presenters will have to unmute themselves to comment. and so if you wish to be heard, please type your name in the meeting chat so that the chair can recognize you. the staff in the background will be managing the technology during the meeting so we can switch from any slide presentations to the member speaking at the moment. and, again, we ask for your patience on that. lastly, i want to really extend a huge thank you for the people who have been working long, long, long and hard to make this possible. i don't think that the public really has an understanding of how hard the commission staff

has been working on this. so i want to really thank our commission secretary and all of the commission staff, including retired sergeants and fillive loughoud, and sergeant youngblood who has spent so much time and energy and effort to try to make this meeting happen. as well as sfgov-tv. this is a lot to put together and we really appreciate it. all right, sergeant youngblood can you hear me? >> stacy, you're muted. sorry about that. all right, i'll start again. to the members of the public this meeting is televised by sfgov-tv. if you're interested in making a public comment call in at the time that the line item is read.

at the appropriate time the chair will ask for the phone lines to be opened. if you wish to comment on a particular item, press 1 and then 0. and this will add you to the qiew list. and the auto prompt will say that callers are entering question and answer but this is public comment period. and you'll be queued up to the order in which you press 1, and 0 and there will be an automated voice to tell you when to speak. when your microphone is unmuted i will tell you that you have two minutes to begin talking. at 30 seconds i will tell you that you have 30 seconds remaining and when your time is up i will say thank you, next caller, please. at that point the moderator will put you back on mute. that number again for public comment is (888)-273-3658. and the access code is 3107452. and, again, we thank you for your patience. >> vice-president taylor: thank you.

and so this is not the way that we wanted to do this and i want to extend on behalf of all of my fellow commissioners to really thank and to appreciate the outgoing commissioners thomas masuko and mr. hirsch for their years with the city and county of san francisco. their last days as commissioners was april 30th and we were hoping to have a meeting in april and to send them off in a proper fashion and we're all really sorry that we were not able to do so. because of events beyond all of our controls. but i want to say a few words about both of them, you know. commissioner masuko served 13 years on the police commission and he was both vice president and president. and he performed his duties through a tenure of four different mayors and four different police commissioners. and commissioner hirsch was most recently commission president, he worked closely with the chief

to help through a period of rapid change and reform. both terms ended at the end of april but we just really to take the time to thank them for their service and wish that we could have done so in person. finally, this is really extraordinary and a difficult time so it's challenging to hold a meeting in this fashion so i ask my fellow commissioners and all presenters here tonight to again to b courteous. and please try to be brief because we have a full agenda. please call the first line item. >> clerk: as a matter of housekeeping to advise everybody that line item 4 has been removed from tonight's agenda. line item 1, public comment on all reports posted due to covid-19 shelter-in-place order. reports include d.p.a. monthly reports for november, december 2019, and january, february, and march 2020.

first quarter 2020 disciplinary actions report. sfpd family code 6220-quartily report, january-march 2020. and first quarter 2020 electronic communication devices for bias report. and sfpd 2019 language access annual report. and first quarter 2020 document protocol report. and first quarter 2020 safe streets report. and crisis intervention team 2019 end-of-year report. and chief's weekly reports for weeks of april 24, 2020, may 1, 20, and may 78, 2020. and d.p.a.'s weekly report for april 26, 2020, to may 2, 2020. public comment is now open, please dial and press 1, and 0. moderator, any calls on the line. >> we do have callers. should i put in the first one? >> you have five questions remaining. >> vice-president taylor: before we --

>> caller: i want to (indiscernible) and i didn't receive a response. i would like to appreciate that you've (indiscernible) and commissioner safai (indiscernible) and the police commission meet. (indiscernible) planning has been meeting. planning and workforce and (indiscernible) at the oversight committee (indiscernible) and i never got an answer. it's so disturbing. i understand that this is supposed to be a chat that the public can see. i cannot see it, so i would like that to be -- may i suggest that this idea that this rapid change when we're only (indiscernible) by the justice department is an absurd statement.

and (indiscernible) it's not equally and i can't understand why it's complicated for the board of supervisors. (indiscernible) so none of what is said in the preview makes sense to me. (indiscernible) and i would have liked to have known because no one told me in time they were submitting tonight. so where is the chat? the public has right to see the chat. are you hearing me? can someone answer if you have heard what i said? >> clerk: we can hear you. >> (indiscernible). >> clerk: the chat is public as it is not viewable on the screen. >> thank you for clarifying. >> caller: (indiscernible) what does that mean?

i'm sorry. go ahead. >> vice-president taylor: we can't have back-and-forth in public comment. so if yo we want to give you yor two minutes but we can't have a back-and-forth. >> caller: you can respond to the public anytime that you want and you just can't have it on the agenda and making a decision on something. i have read the act and it's not true and since i was told that i could see the chat and i can't see the chat, i want to know how to do that. and so does the rest of the public. >> vice-president taylor: i think we clarified for you. anything else? >> caller: i couldn't hear him because it was cutting in and out, so what did he say? >> vice-president taylor: sergeant youngblood you want to explain how the chat works. >> clerk: the chat is within the application. in order for the commissioners to raise their hand when they wish to speak and there's no

talking or chat going back and forth between the two, but it is a discoverable through the public records request. though it's not viewable on your screen. >> caller: got it. thank you. >> you have five questions remaining. >> clerk: next caller. >> caller: this is ashley rava this ie with the league of california voters and the executive sponsor for the working group. i wanted to thank all of the commission for meeting today and for making every available option to continue the public comment, the public meetings. we do understand, and we will be flexible and patient as these situations are worked through in real-time. but i'd like to extend my gratitude for everybody within the department and the

reporting, d.p.a., and the commissioners for their hard work on achieving the goal of meeting today. >> vice-president taylor: thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you, caller. >> you have five questions remaining. >> clerk: this is for line item 1, this is not general public comment. next caller, you have two minutes. hello? >> caller, you're free to speak. it appears that the caller is either muted or has dropped the line. >> clerk: can we move to the next comment, please? >> you have four questions

remaining. >> clerk: caller -- >> caller: this is angela. can you hear me? i'm trying to qualify if i'm able to speak to the bias policy now or it's going to be later on in the agenda, if you can hear me. >> vice-president taylor: that would be later on in the agenda. >> caller: okay. >> vice-president taylor: right now it's only line item 1. >> caller: okay, thank you. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. >> you have three questions remaining. >> caller: hello, my name is john jones and i'd like to thank the commission for meeting today. to say that i'm unaware of anyplace on line that one can find the reports posted due to the covid-19 shelter-in-place order. i don't know where these reports are. thank you. >> you have two questions remaining.

>> caller: hello. my name is michael petrelis and i'm a police accoun accountabily activist. and i'm commenting on item 1. and i am not happy that there are i believe six to eight reports that were posted to the commission website in the past 48 hours and that you are asking the public to weigh in on six to eight reports that you issued during your hiatus. i believe that you owe us, the taxpayers and the public, the opportunity to weigh in with public comment on each of the reports. it is not okay that you glued

them together into one item on your agenda. i must also address the comment that the secretary of the commission made before item 1. you do not take public comment on remarks that we the public supposedly don't understand the difficulties of the commission to set up this meeting. the health commission, the port commission has been meeting for weeks -- months now. and it was not okay that the police commission has taken this long. if you have had trouble setting up these virtual meetings, call the public -- tell the public what we need to solve the problems. you never said exactly what the problems are. we're in the middle of big tech

country and there are many people who could have helped solve your problems that would have allowed us to hold meetings before today. thank you. >> you have one question remaining. >> caller: hi, i'm calling because i want to thank the rank and file -- hello? >> clerk: yes, we can hear you. >> caller: okay. i'm calling because i want to thank the rank and file officers of the san francisco police department for doing what they do every day, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. i want to reiterate that my thank you goes to the rank-and-file officers, not the commission, not the command staff. only the officers. bye. >> you have zero questions

remaining. >> that was the end of the public comment queue for this item. >> clerk: thank you. commissioner taylor, commissioner hamasaki has a question. >> vice-president taylor: yes, commissioner hamasaki. >> commisioner hamasaki: thank you. so i wanted to follow-up on the comments of miss altman and miss robeicheaux, and the accountability -- am i good, stacy? >> clerk: you are but we don't see your video. >> commisioner hamasaki: you don't see my video? not a much of a loss. if people can hear me i'm happy to continue. >> clerk: you can continue. >> commisioner hamasaki: okay. you know, this is -- this is -- i know that -- i know that a lot of people in the community were frustrated with us not meeting. and i can say that, you know, i

don't want to continue some of the contentiousness that's happened around this. please accept my apology on behalf of myself. i don't want to put anybody else into it. but, you know, we were told certain things that turned out not to be true. and that's really unfortunate. and i don't think that's how a commission and a civilian oversight body should operate. but, you know, i -- it caused a lot of pain, i know, in the community for a lot of people and it caused a lot of pain for some of us on the commission. i personally feel like i let you down by not pushing harder sooner and that's on me. you know, at a certain point we had to take action and

commissioner dejesus and i did stand up and we heard all of the voices that spoke and the san francisco public defender's office wrote a letter to the league of women voters, and recognized the letter, that the youth commission -- the transformative justice committee just did a wonderful letter as well. and we all heard you. and i know that the board of supervisors was very concerned about the lack of oversight that was taking place during this time. you know, i don't think that we need to continue to fight here about why it didn't happen. just on behalf of myself, i apologize for not pushing harder and not pushing sooner to make it happen. and we're not going to let it fall down regardless of -- we're not going to let politics -- i'm not going to let politics get in the way of this and technical difficulties and so forth.

we're moving forward. we have a lot -- a lot of work to do, a lot has been backed up and regarding the comments about the number of items that have been placed on the agenda, i think -- i'm in agreement with that. i did not have any part of putting together the agenda, but you can follow-up items and we can have presentations on these items and full discussion and full public comment in the future. and so if anybody wants to contact the commission staff, contact the commissioner about an item, i think that some of us on the commission might have items that we've seen that we might need to hear more about, so, you know, we hear you. and we appreciate all of the comments. and we are -- we are back in session and, you know, we're here to serve you. so, again, you know, my apologies for not doing more sooner. thank you.

>> am i online, sergeant youngblood, can you see me? >> clerk: i can see you. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. so i want to tell the commissioners with respect to line item one, if there's any items that the commissioner would like to see on the agenda in future weeks, just let me know or let the commission staff know and we can agendaize those items and we didn't want there to be a lack of information given to the public while we were not meeting. and so we were posting -- we posted a number of reports at a time when we were not meeting. so we can certainly do any of those reports for future commission meetings. so just let me know. okay, i think that it's time for the next line item. >> clerk: okay. line item 2.

reports to the commission [discussion] 2a, chief's report. weekly crime trends, provide an overview of offenses occurring in san francisco. significant incidents, a chief's report will be limited to a brief description to the significant incidents. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the incidents the chief describes for a future commission meeting. and major events, provide a summary of planned activities and events occurring since the previous meeting. this will include a brief overview of any unplanned events or activities occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities the chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for a future meeti meeting. okay. >> thank you, sergeant youngblood. can you guy -- can the commission hear me okay? yes, good evening, vice

president taylor and commissioners. i'll start off my chief report with crime and then i'll talk about the other issues, including having an update on the department's covid response and update on our progress on our 1421 efforts for our request for public record. so as far as crime, as of may 17th, crime overall -- crime overall is down 13%. and i'll break that down. it's been a long time since we met. i think that before the covid pandemic basically caused the shelter-in-place orders to go in effect, we were actually on an upward trend in crime, particularly in some of our violent crimes, including robbery. since the covid-19 shelter-in-place order we are now overall down 13%.

what that represents is a number of about 1,700 fewer crimes. a little bit more than that, i'm sorry. about 1,800 fewer crime. and the breakdown is we are -- property crime, we are 13% down. we have a 21% reduction in theft. and that category includes car break-ins, which we're down significantly, 25%, compared to this time last year. we are up, however, in burglaries. we're up 14% in burglaries and that number represents about 400 additional burglaries from this time last year. and up in vehicle thefts by 14%. which represents roughly about -- almost 303 vehicle thefts and we're up in arsons. in terms of violent crime we're

down 10% overall. that is a difference of -- from 2,062 crime this is time last year to 1,852 crimes this year so that's approximately 200 crimes down. we are up 13% in homicide which i am sad to report that. we had 15 this time last year and we had 17 year-to-date in homicides. we are down significantly in thefts and assaults and rapes. 150 this time last year and 75 currently. and robberies are down from 1,033 last year to 993 currently. that's a difference of about 4% reduction. and assaults were down about 11%, from 850 this time last year, to 760 currently. and with human trafficking down about 50% though the numbers are

small, 14 this time last year and 17 currently. and in terms of our violent crime, our shootings are actually down from this time last year. our shooting victims, we had 24 year-to-date, as opposed to 32 this time last year so that represents a 25% reduction. however, our homicides with the use of a firearm are up to 7 last year and 11 year-to-date 2020, so that's a 38% increase. and, again, as i said year-to-date homicides are up by 13%. when you look at a five-year picture of homicides year-to-date we are compared to five years ago we are down and as that goes through 2019, we saw an overall trend line decrease through 2019. so we're up from last year and hopefully we can slow that down in the coming months.

in terms of significant cases, there's only a couple. because there had been so few people out of doors with the shelter-in-place we've actually had really good news to report as far as our crime picture. however, we have had shootings and as i said our homicides are up. last week on -- actually this week earlier -- earlier this week -- there was a shooting at laguna and eddie at approximately 2:00 p.m., the suspect vehicle double parked on laguna at 1100 blocks on laguna. two suspects exited and engaged a suspect in conversation and the one suspect pulled out a gun and shot the other in the leg. the injury was non-life-threatening, however, we've had a series of shootings up over the last month or so that have been a significant concern. there was one in the bayview

area. and actually the outstrip housing development where over a hundred rounds were fired. we had one last week in the district on -- on jewel, where 50 plus rounds were fired. so it's a significant concern. we do believe that those two are connected and part of a series of shootings and our investigators are working very hard to identify the people involved. so we will keep the commission and the public updated on those incidents as we develop more information and the investigations develop. but it's a significant concern for us to have that many rounds fired. in any location. and we also believe that there are some shootings connected to that series and other cities in the bay area, and we're working with those agencies to figure out exactly who is responsible.

i want to switch gears and talk a little bit about our covid response and our -- the department's posture on basically enforcement for the covid-19 pandemic. so the first health order, shelter-in-place order, was issued on march 16th to be effective at midnight going into march 17th. from day one our posture was to start with education and we call it a compliance pathway, starting with education. there's a lot of information that has been given to the public and a lot of changes over this past 2 1/2 months with additions and revisions to the health order. so we feel that it's really important that the public to be educated and what we're actually seeking, our model is based on voluntary compliance. these are very restrictive orders and somewhat unprecedented for our generation, anyway, and we took

the position that our best course of action would be to educate the public and to try to give voluntary compliance. and by and large that's been a very effective tactic. as we educate the public we have developed systems where we actually take incident reports as we go out and give formal warnings where we actually warn somebody that they're in violation and we take an incident report. we've had over 120 of those types of warnings. but we also have been doing a lot of public engagement with our officers, our cadets and in conjunction with other city entities, including the park rangers and the sheriffs and some of our disaster service workers. and there's been a lot of informal warnings. we have other places and the spirit is to inform the public so that we can not have enforcement as the answer to the public health pandemic. with that we have had issued a

total of 27 citations since this pandemic and since the health orders started. i know that there's been some interest in what the breakdown in terms of ethnicity of the people that have been cited. and that breakdown is 11% asian, 22% african american, 11% latin, and 41% white. and 15% unknown ethnicity for our breakdown. we have had officers working on an actual -- what we call a covid task force. basically their duty is to gather information, to distribute the information, including the policy changes, the health orders, and so we're all educated in terms of what we're dealing with and what we need to do moving forward. it's been a very good strategy for us. we've made some adjustments and our delivery of service, including creating a report unit

where people can call in, make reports over the phone and we streamline the process and make it more efficient. we also have encouraged the public to make reports online and working with the department of emergency management we now -- our city now has a tech 911 service that's available and really the highlight of that is really designed to have reports for victims of domestic violence who may not be able to make a phone call for whatever reason. we have had use of that service as well. in terms of our workforce, our workforce we are very blessed and very happy to report that we've had very few exposures to our workforce. we've only had a few officers that have been infected by the covid virus. and that's very good news. and i must say that we have a very -- we are fortunate to have a very aggressive department of public health and we have our

dr. richard martin who has been instrumental in keeping us healthy. so i would like to publicly acknowledge all of the work that dr. martin and everybody on the department has done in terms of keeping the workforce safe and healthy. (please stand by)

>> the covid pandemic has slowed us down somewhat in that citywide, you know, it's affected the workforce, but particularly for us, it's slowed down that process, so hopefully as we open back up, we'll resume, but we have made some progress in that. in terms of the requests in sales, we had 67 c.r.a.s. 1421 c.r.a.s have been closed. we've been working with the district attorney's office and their requests. a lot of requests are from the -- we had 121 officer involved shootings, cases that have been released, which

equals 21,418 pages of documents that have been released. we've identified, in the public records request, tenna great bodily injuries have been released, with a total of 8,000 pages of documents. with that, we will have a quarterly report that i think is already scheduled for the commission, but from this point on, we will be reporting on this on a regular basis, and that concludes my report if there's any questions for the commission. >> commissioner elias: thank you, chief. i haven -- >> vice president taylor: thank you, chief. i haven't seen any questions yet, unless that's commissioner

elias questions. i've heard a little bit of reports of shootings going on during the day early tuesday afternoon or early wednesday afternoon. this is not small stuff, so to what do you attribute the rise in crime going on now? what is the department doing about it? do we know anything about the offenders here and kind of what's going on? >> yeah, absolutely, commissioner. in terms of the shooting, that is an absolute concerns for most of the departments. overall, the shootings are done, but it's very concerning, particularly the number of shots that have been fired and the weapon. we know in some of them, rifles have been used -- high power rifles, and that's concerning. we attributed that to, as we stated, gang activity. we identified the groups that

we believe are involved and are working to identify the individuals, and that's, you know, the best measure, first of all, to identify the people so they can be held accountable, but there's a lot of community work that goes into this, and there have been a lot of meetings along the way via zoom or whatever technology they use. the other is once we identify the shooting, those who might be involved because of retaliation, which we know sometimes with group or gang related shootings, that's always something we have to be concerned about. we've been working with our interventionists in our city to make sure that as much as we can intervene and prevent the

next shooting from happening, we'll do that. often times, the memorial services associated with funerals and things of this nature, problems stem from that. so our officers, along with our city entities and workers have really done a lot of work to make sure that that doesn't spark at incident the best way we can do that. the covid restrictions have somewhat limited that issue because lower gatherings are still banned, so all those things that people can't get together and grieve. we're working with that issue, as well, to try and keep people as much as we can working to address that issue because that in and of itself causes anxiety that could spark other

incidents. so it's been a really collaborative effort, both with community stakeholders, some of our intervention workers around the bay area. of course, the investigations will run their course, but, you know, as far as identifying the people who are shooting and trying to bring them to accountability, and then, all the other things kind of playing into this that we try to do to prevent further violence from happening in terms of these shootings. >> vice president taylor: and one somewhat unrelated question, chief, my second question has to do with bookings and mug shot. there's been a lot of consternation of people really being upset, and rightfully so, photos of people not convicted being released to the public. if you can't answer it today, that's fine, but i'd like to talk to you in the future about what you're doing to make sure

that's not going to happen. >> right. we can talk about that just briefly. we are working on a policy document to regulate the release of booking photos. we've heard from the community and some of the stakeholders and public defender's office included in that group, and there are some issues that we believe that policy will or can address. we get it, and we do understand how it plays into the overall work that we're doing to address some of the disparities and issues with some of our over arching strategies to address some of the bias issues that have been identified in the various documents, including the usdojeri report.

we're very close on a final report, and when that happens, we can report back to the commission. >> vice president taylor: commissioner dejesus, is that your teddy bear that you want to askwant -- elias, is that your teddy bear that you want to ask a question? >> yeah. i'm raising my hand. chief, thank you for the 1421 updates, but i wanted to make sure that i heard you correctly, or maybe i misheard you. you said that there were 67 t.r.a. requests for 1421.

is that year-to-date or that so far because it was my understanding that the police department had a -- a huge request -- 1421 request backlog. >> yeah, no. i said 67 closed c.r.a. requests. >> commissioner elias: oh, closed. okay. and how many requests have you had thus far? >> you know, let me go back to actual documents. give me one second, commissioner. >> commissioner elias: that's fine. maybe you can do something in the future. i think the 1421 does a great job in breaking down the total files produced, the number of requests, and the production.

maybe that's something we can chat offline about, but thank you so much for presenting those numbers to us. the other thing i wanted to say thank you to you was for providing the weekly crime trend. i think this is a phenomenal way to show the comparative levels of crime year-to-date, and i think it's a great way to show the things that have been happening, and i think you continue to do the same with things that are happening. it allows the public to see the things on paper, so thank you for that, and i look forward to seeing the future one, and i'm really glad to see that crime has gone down, especially the sort of violent crimes during this pandemic, and we see the city making an effort to house

people and release nonviolent offenders from the local jail, so i'm happy to see those numbers haven't spiked or there hasn't been a negative correlation. >> thank you, commissioner. >> commissioner elias: well, and it's good to see my fellow commissioners, so... >> vice president taylor: commissioner dejesus, i think you're next. you actually followed the rules, by the way, commissioner dejesus. no teddy bears, no penguins. are you there? >> commissioner dejesus: yeah. i've got to unmute myself. can you hear me? >> vice president taylor: yes. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. so chief, i thank you for the report, but there's two prongs going on. the multiple shootings at the griffith, the taraval, and the 14 and guerrero. i understand at the 14 and guerrero, there was, like, 60 pounds fired there. we're talking about a huge amount of firearms, of fire

power going on in the city, and i would like a report on that of what you think is going on and what you guys are doing on that. but when i wanted a report, i had to wait a week for the mission one, and the mission one said they exited a vehicle and fired multiple rounds. i had no idea it was 60 rounds. i had to get that from the t.v. and the newspaper. i want to ask that the commissioners be notified of significant events in the event. when you have 100 rounds fired or 50 or 60 rounds be fired, i just don't want to get an o.i.s. i think we should put it on the agenda, significant issues, which is what it was when i first started. i don't want to wait a week, and then get a report that's a

little too vague of what's going on. i think we should put it on the agenda of what we should get immediate notification going on. that's one thing, and then, i want to know what's going on with the multiple fire power in our communities. i other things i want to talk about is homicide. i'm a little confused about your stats. i thought you said they were up 28% or 13%. >> it's 13% up. >> is that homicides with a gun or total homicides. >> no, it's total homicides, and then, i looked at homicides with a firearm. it's up 38%.

it went from seven last year to 11 this year, so that's 38%. >> a >>. >> commissioner dejesus: and then, the total. >> it's up 13%. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. you talked about p.p.e., and there was a little bit of an issue with what some of the officers were wearing. so i want to put that on the agenda. who made that decision, why were they wearing political masks or keep adding to their uniform. that was very disturbing, very concerning, and i do want to add it on the agenda so we can talk about it and the public can hear about it it, how the decision was made. >> vice president taylor: chief, i would like to second commissioner hamasaki's request for a report on homicides.

if you could -- if you could report on that in a future commission meeting, that would be great. >> yes, be happy to do that. >> commissioner dejesus: oh, i'm sorry, chief, i have one more question. i don't know if you've addressed this, but i read in the paper that the mayor's office is putting up camps on fulton street, and the people are signing in and signing out, and they have access to bathrooms, and i read that the police are patrolling that encampment, and i'm a little concerned with that. i don't believe that's the role of our officers, so if you could flush that out. if we're patrolling that, are we going to hand it off to another organization or are we going to police other encampments? >> i can comment briefly on

that or can we can put it on another agenda. that is part of the city's covid response. so that encampment on fulton street is up, and a community organization is already managing that camp or encampment or safe sleeping site -- safe sleeping site is what it's called. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. >> so i can tell you at a high level reach, as we're just getting started, as a lot of people are sleeping at that site there. we did get a lot of concern from the community about drug dealing and activity that was going on there, and we did post officers there for that purpose, and that was fairly effective. we are not policing the case. urban alchemy is the

organization that's out there. i've been out there with them, walking the site. they're very organized social distancing in -- there's very organized social distancing in place, with the services that the city is providing, hand washing stations and all that. that's not a concern that we get or are community policing, but when we get concerns reported of drug dealing, we're going to respond to that. you might see officers in the area, but you won't see them "policing the site" or providing security. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. thank you. >> vice president taylor: commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: yes. first, i want to start by echoing the feeling of my

fellow colleagues. i thank the staff for what you've done to organize this session. it's been countless hours back and forth to get this up and running, so thank you for that. i also want to give a shoutout for captain dangerfield and captain wu for what they're doing here. i'm extremely happy to see us being more proactive versus reactive, and i want to make sure that we continue to do that, and community wants to make sure that we continue to do that. but we really -- my question, chief, because you mentioned -- what are your thoughts as we continue to reopen our communities, what are we thinking about as a department on what that looks like, what it feels like, and what we're going to do in terms of rolling

out our team? >> well, commissioner, for the immediate future, the reopening is somewhat limited in terms of businesses reopening. i know we have the curbside pick up in our city right now, and hopefully, the businesses will get back into full swing when the public science and data says the time is right for that. in terms of policing, two things. when the covid pandemic caused the shelter in place, we anticipated that we might have some issues with closed businesses being burglarized and that type of thing, and sure enough, we have had some of those issues that came to fruition. we stepped up those actions, and we made a number of arrests for individuals committing those types of crimes. that is not the best solution. the best solution is prevention

by an increase in patrols. the increase in crime has been followed by less of a pool of victims out there, so once normal returns, we'll return to more normal crime trends. we'll be putting officers where we believe we need to in order to prevent some of those crimes from happening. especially when we have shootings, we typically increase patrols at least as a deterrent. we have to get in front of it, and we realize that, and as much as we can deploy officers in those locations that are known or believed to be targets for violence crimes, that's -- violent crimes, that's -- we'll continue to do that.

we have to continue to work with the community members in terms of partnership, and i know that's kind of a given, but it has to be done as businesses open back up. one thing we saw with social distancing, particularly with the essential businesses like grocery stores and the like, there was very tight controls of how many people were in the locations. there were tight controls on people standing in line and those types of things, but there was less social distancing in terms of people running into stores and grabbing merchandise and running out because of controls that were in place to prevent the spread of the virus. so as that gets loosened, we have to keep an eye on making sure we don't get back to those things that were happening before the pandemic hit. some of those are working with the businesses and developing joint security plans and that type of things, which we are in the process of doing right now,

so we'll see. i can say, on a nationwide trend, me and several of the staff members have been on regular nationwide briefings to the neighborhood association of chiefs, international association of chiefs of police, and even statewide with the california chiefs of police associations, we are hearing what the other major cities are experiencing in terms of an increase in crime and property crimes, so this is happening at a national level. it's helpful to hear about what other cities are doing as they're hearing what we doing, so that's helpful to get a strategy in place as we open back up. >> vice president taylor: thank you, chief. commissioner hamasaki. commissioner hamasaki, i think

you had your penguin sound that you wanted to speak. >> commissioner hamasaki: sorry. the dancing penguin is my symbol to speak instead of "i'm talking," and it's cute to see. it's great to see you, chief, over zoom, and it's great to see everybody. i wanted to start off by saying i think the department -- there's been some complaints, but i think the department and the city, you know, across the board, has really risen to the moment and handles, you know, this most unprecedented and -- well, i guess, some people expected it, unprecedented

impact to public safety that affected the community. i want to thank the chief and the police department for making san francisco the model. my wife worked at ucsf as part of the public health team that's working on this. our son's bedroom has been turning into ground central for the contact tracing, and i know how serious all of the work everybody's been doing is and, you know, it's great when we see people rise to a challenge like this. i also wanted to address briefly petra -- i'm sorry, commissioner dejesus' comments

about the masks. i seem to have ended up in the middle of the controversy, and you took some measures there that i think were the appropriate measures, and they were taken in a very measured and deliberate fashion, and, you know, i do think we need to have a conversation about this. i think it was incredibly disrespectful to alter -- it's not altering the uniform, it's not defacing the flag, but i think there's a lot of problems with it in a lot of -- and i understand the history of it, and i appreciate you expressing that history, but, you know, i think as a -- this is maybe something that's happened more in the internet age, symbols and signs can take on other meanings and be taken over by other groups that change their original meaning and

interpretation, but i think you took the right approach to that, and there was -- you took some attacks on that. i got a lot of friendly messages from some people who were unhappy about my criticism of the masks, and i just wanted to say as a commissioner, i think you acted with and demonstrated dignity and respect under the attack; and this confirms my confidence in your leadership during this difficult time. i also want to commend commissioner taylor for bringing up the mug shot initiative that -- you know, i -- i'm glad to hear that

we're coming together around this. i didn't know, when i raised this back in, i think, january. i got a bit of purchash back o, but commissioner dejesus said it well. a lot of the community have moved on and moved forward and they can't escape a mistake in their past. so i've been expecting a copy of that draft, and i'd like to see it in the next few weeks. it would be great if we could get that moving, but i appreciate all of the department's work on that, and hopefully, we can come together and find a -- a policy that -- that'll address the concerns of the community and move forward

on that. and i think that's all i have. thank you, chief. >> thank you, commissioner. commissioner, you're on mute. >> vice president taylor: sorry. i think next, we have the d.p.a. director's report. is that right, sergeant youngblood? >> clerk: yes. item 2-b, d.p.a. director's report. report on recent d.p.a. activities and announcements. d.p.a. activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future commission

meeting. >> vice president taylor: is director henderson here? >> yep, i'm here. so i'm going to give you an update, a few of the items that i'll share, and some of the activities that's going on during the shelter in place period. a lot of you have the report in terms of what's going on there. in terms of the cases going on at the moment, we are at 300 cases now, and at this time now, we were at 281, so we still have more cases now this year than we had last year, and that includes the time period that we've been going through the shelter in place. in terms of cases that have been closed by the agency, we're at 393 cases that we've closed. this time last year, we had closed 246 cases, so those numbers are up a little bit

higher, as well. we are still at cases that are pending and open, 340 cases. this time last year, we were at 324 cases. in terms of cases the same this year, we're at 14. this time last year, we were at 31. for cases that are past the 270-day mark, which is the measure that we see on our closeout rates, we're at 37. this time last year, we were at 25. of those cases that are past the 270-day mark and haven't closed yet, 14 of them are cases that are tolled, and many of these cases are obviously delayed because of the shelter in place order, but we are continuing to work on our cases, and we monitor very closely what that process has looked like, including our investigator that's continued working and our legal team that

has continued working during the shelter in place. the cases that have been mediated, we were -- we're at 16 this year, and were at the exact same number this time last year. in terms of what's going on with the department, the mediation stuff in particular, has continued working, and some of the things we've done is to implement our microsoft teams technology both in mediator for some of the teams that have been working on it, and through mediation. so we've converted to an electronic model to continue the work. also, parts of the process in the past for mediation has been now converted to an on-line process, so the mediator's summary is now in an on-line format and trying to cut down on the institutionalized methods that we have of less

contact to do the social distancing. as much as we can digitalize that process, we want to make sure that we're making that an option not just for the public but for the mediators and our staff, as well, when it's available. a lot of that information about the remote mediation facts is also available on our website, if people have more questions or want to know a little bit more about it. in terms of the outreach, in march, we had done six preparations, where we are appearing at places like the self-help for the elderly, who they had invited us to and we made a big presentation. the senior's center, the chinatown branch library. these were all before the shelter in place took place in the city. since then, we've maintained our activism and our presence in the community, and we've

been participating on-line in community and on-line virtual meetings, including many of the meeting that have taken place in the city with o.f.a., and our intern program is continuing. obviously, we're shifting it. i didn't want to walk away from the program. i know a lot of agencies are cancelling their programs, but i know a lot of students have a real interest in continuing that work, and it's a paid program through opportunities for all. we have leaned in very heavily to make sure that our students that are coming in are pretty diverse. we didn't want to disappoint them and cancel our program. a lot of the programming will be taking place virtually in a combined effort with the city, and our work will continue, so our program is starting at the beginning of next month, and i'll give you a full presentation at another meeting, but i just wanted to flag it, that we're continuing with our presentation, and

those students are still going to be allowed to continue with their internship with the d.p.a. some of our staff, in terms of outreach, have been working at emergency workers, and much of that is doing the emergency televised updates for covid and chinese translation in the city, so you'll see a lot of those workers if you're following any of those presentations. in terms of our policy work, recently, we've really been focused on the d.g.o. upgrades, and you're going to hear about some of that work in the agenda, so i just want to give an overview in some of the things that we're doing because there's 53 of them total. i just want to flag the ones that we've seen now. the ones done through the working groups have been done really well because it reflected the voice -- reflects

the voices of the community as well as ours at d.p.a. here. i think it's important as we continue on here that it reflects both reforms, best practices, and legal updates. in terms of the 1421 update, we continue to work on our 1421-related tasks. much of d.p.a.s document reviews specifically because our files that are in question are mostly paper, so -- but we have had some disclosures. in particular, we had a couple of electronic disclosures. one of them -- and the reason i'm flagging it is because one of those disclosures that we did last week was over 1,000 pages that we just released. in terms of our systems, we're testing out two new on-line portal systems that we've been doing during the shelter in

place. those systems are with govqa and staff request. in terms of staffing with d.p.a., we have a volunteer lawyer that is coming on-line to work with d.p.a., and we have two new legal assistants, and they are joining june 1. they were scheduled to start much earlier, but, obviously, the shelter in place changed some of the dynamics for when those folks could start and begin working. we've -- the office has signed notifications up about we don't take walk-ins anymore, but we've expanded -- we've tried to expand the ways that people can get in contact with us and continue working with us from the community and, obviously, people can contact us through the website and on-line directly through e-mail as well

as phone messages. we've expanded our phone messaging system so a live person answers and not just a machine. so 24 hours, you speak to a real person, and those messages are conveyed to us in real-time, so someone can respond back to folks. there's never a big lag in terms of people being able to contact us and for us to continue our investigation. we've done a ton of work both in transitioning to our new location. we have just moved just over a week before we went into the shelter in place, so a lot of that work got frozen, but we've continued to try and do as much of that work as possible. there's still no doors in our office here, but we've set our interview rooms up, and we are continuing to do work. there are no cases this evening that are in the closed session, and i have my staff on this call and available should

issues become necessary or if there's someone from the public or any of our comments that we need to respond to in case folks have any questions. and i know we've already turned in a ton of paperwork and documents that you guys have to review, and my staff and i are standing by in case you have questions. thank you. >> vice president taylor: thank you. commissioner elias? >> commissioner elias: thank you. director henderson, one of the things that i was noticing in your report is your mediation and the number of cases that your mediation program is taking on. what i'd like to see, because i still haven't received it, are sort of the policies and procedures for the mediation program that d.p.a. has. i think those should be available on-line to the community so they understand how this process works and all of the logistical components of

it. i also would like to know what staff is handling this program. i know we received a presentation from someone in your office, an attorney that was handling it, but i think it's important for people to know the staff that's sort of going to be handling the mediation program because i'm assuming that's just not her. so i think that information should be available to the public and be a little more transparent because it's not very clear at this point. >> thank you. i actually like that informati suggestion. maybe that's some information we can put on-line if something's ambiguous and not wait to answer the question. >> vice president taylor: okay. thank you. next line item? >> commissioner hamasaki: sorry. i had a question.

>> vice president taylor: thank you. sorry. commissioner hamasaki with the dancing penguin. >> commissioner hamasaki: director henderson, i had a question regarding disciplinary cases -- discipline cases, and has there been anything about the coronavirus and your office being essentially shutdown? i know you're at home and everything -- are you at home? do you have an american flag in your living room? >> no, that's not my living room. i am here in my office where i have all my equipment set up, but i put my own art up so it felt more homey. it it's a new office. >> commissioner hamasaki: great. are we bumping up against any

deadlines on this, and is there going to be any issues we should know about now before they arise in some other fashion? >> we are monitoring that. as you are aware, one of my first priorities from taking over this agency was making sure we do not get into an area where cases are being dismissed because of timing 3304, and that's one of the issues that's come up while we have the suspended measures both from the state and the local courts about administrative, criminal, and civil processes involving the city. but we are working closely with the city attorney's office to make sure that we don't get to any of those emergencies or crisis. and as a reminder, we have not had any since i've taken over this agency, but i'll certainly let you know if it gets close.

i'm glad you asked me because i forgot my last page of my report, an update of what's been going on with the agency. since march, we've received a total of 106 new complaints, so complaints are still coming in. they are being assigned to investigators, and speaking specifically -- i think you alluded to what kind of cases are we getting? are they issues related to shelter in place, we do have some complaints coming in relating to shelter in place type of orders and what officers are doing on the streets. did you just ask that or did i just make it up? >> commissioner hamasaki: i think i shot you an e-mail one day after i read something or heard something. >> yeah. >> commissioner hamasaki: yeah, just there was concern about enforcement. there's a lot of good things out there, but there was also -- what i asked the chief

about to report about, race, ethnicity statistics because that was a concern raised in other counties and a concern raised here. so i didn't know, and i reached out to both you and the chief to make sure there's not something coming out of this that we have to get a handle on sooner rather than later. >> i had something prepared, and it was on another sheet of paper, so i'm glad you asked. just to articulate, even during this month, during the shelter in place, we had 2% more cases than we had at the same time last year. i know a lot of this is in the monthly reports that you guys have, but there's a high volume of them in that paperwork. since you asked the question, i had this prepared a, and i wand to include that in response to your question. >> vice president taylor: thank you. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you. >> vice president taylor:

commissioner elias? >> commissioner elias: thank you. thank you for reminding me, too. this is a follow up to commissioner hamasaki's question that i forgot to raise. i'd like to know how your office is handling investigations now that the shelter in place order has been implemented? you know, specifically how are your investigators gathering evidence or interviewing witness? so how has that affected your office, and what are you doing to make sure these investigations continue and that no deadlines are missed or that the level or quality of investigation isn't compromised? >> well, obviously, there's each of the cases are case by case, but the work has continued. the number of cases has not gone down in terms of what the investigators are doing, so a lot of that has gone on-line and folks making a lot of phone calls as they continue doing the work. i think that's what you were

asking. >> commissioner elias: well, yeah. that -- part of it is when they have to interview witnesses, speaking with witnesses, how is the police department responding to your investigation? so i assume that you're -- you're also having phone conversations with them, as well, in addition to the witnesses that you're interviewi interviewing with these cases, that mechanism? >> we've put a lot of work into that process specifically, not just the part that you just raised just now in terms of how we're interacting with the department. i was speaking more to the stuff we're doing with witnesses and folks that were making complaints and some of that work. i can bring in my chief of staff, sarah, who has been working on that issue specifically in terms of how we've been working with the department to move forward our cases to make sure that that doesn't slow down or stop while we've been doing the shelter in

place because that's a more complicated process. sorry, stacey. >> commissioner elias: and if you want, we can agendaize that for later. >> commissioner dejesus: it might make sense to agendaize that for the first meeting in june, just because we have a full agenda. >> there's a lot to say about that, that's what i'm saying. >> vice president taylor: let's agendaize that for the next meeting. all right. next item. >> clerk: line item 2-c. commission reports. commission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and

announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future commission meeting. >> vice president taylor: other than the process to get this meeting happening, i don't have much to report, but i do want to take a moment and thank commissioner brookter, who has been an essential worker in so many ways during this pandemic. and one of the things that his organization is doing is making sure that people in the bayview district in particular who have suffered economically because of covid, lost their jobs, don't have the same means that they did to support their families, have at least a hot meal. and i was fortunate to support one day helping deliver meals, but he's been doing this every day, and so i just want to commend him. i was able to take part in that, and i was really impressed by the effort, so just wanted to acknowledge that, the good that's being

done during this awful time. >> clerk: no other commissioner reports? >> vice president taylor: commissioner dejesus, are you wanting to be heard? >> commissioner dejesus: can you hear me? >> vice president taylor: yes. >> commissioner dejesus: i want to add to the agenda. is this an issue? >> vice president taylor: we're doing commission reports. go ahead. >> commissioner dejesus: oh, i thought it was also the agendas. >> vice president taylor: go ahead. go ahead. >> commissioner dejesus: so just before we went into lockdown, there was a study that found our patrol staffing was severely inadequate, and i thought we could add that to

the agenda and find out what that study was and what the issue was. and i can't remember if it was the d.o.j. or where that study came from -- i'm sorry. what? so i would like to get that item added to the agenda. and the other thing is the c.i.t. report is pretty fabulous. i'd like to see if we can have a c.i.t. report for the end of the year so we can see what they've done and how many people they've reached. >> vice president taylor: okay. great. commissioner hamasaki? >> commissioner hamasaki: i'm sorry. i was following commissioner dejesus. i thought we were agendaizing items, so i'll come back. >> vice president taylor: all right. so if there are no commission reports, let's move onto the next line item. >> clerk: okay.

so as a reminder, for those that are trying to comment, dial 888-273-3658, access code 3107452. press pound, and pound again. to request to speak, press one, and then zero. >> vice president taylor: i'm sorry. we didn't do commission line items. >> clerk: i'm sorry. item e, commission announcements and scheduling of items identifies for consideration at future commission meetings. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you.

i wanted to get to commission ite items, and i was wise enough to write down a list. on the second meeting in june, i would like a presentation, which will give the department time to come up with a draft. i do think this has become an issue of importance to the public, and i do think we should conduct this process in the public. so i don't want to go back and forth with drafts, i want an update to let the public know where we're at. i want to agendaize the use of the p.o.a. masks, and one other thing in the discussion is if these were approved, and where

they were approved by because in my reading of the d.g.o.s, this is -- it's -- i don't see any argument that this isn't a policy violation, so i think we need to discuss how that happens and make sure that it's not something that happens again. i think it was just the disrespect that was shown to this department, the city, is unconscionable. i would echo petra's comments. when i came onto the commission about two years ago, i was told we would get notification. from a commission perspective, we are members of the community, and there's things

happening in the community that we don't hear about until people reach out and say hey, what's going on. it looks like -- it looks like -- we end up looking bad because it looks like we're not doing our job. you know, one of the ones that really hit with me was the shooting that commissioner dejesus described before, an individual, courtney brosseau. i do visit twitter every once in a while, and i saw a picture the day of the shooting, which was a picture of a burrito in dolores park, which said, i

just ate a delicious burrito in dolores park, and for a moment, everything felt okay. a lot of people shared that before the shooting, and it just -- i don't know. that just is a very -- i'm an advocate for transit, very well regarded in the community, and, you know, i think it was a real tragedy, and i think we, as commissioners, need to know about these things when they happen and not learn about them through the news or through twitter or through a press release. and the -- and i'm sorry for interrupting you earlier, commissioner dejesus because i'd just been talking earlier to someone about it, which is the study -- the staffing study by matrix, and we had the big rollout plan. and i assume a presentation is probably in the works

somewhere, but we -- i know there's supervisors on the board that's concerned about staffing. norman yee on the board was, i believe, the one that initiated this process. so i think the public wants to hear about that, and i do think that we want to discuss that as a commission. and i'd also second the c.i.t. that's such a vital role in our department that never gets enough credit, and i'd like to have that presentation done at one of these meetings. so that's my list. thank you. >> vice president taylor: thank you. commissioner elias? >> commissioner elias: thank you. i'm going to ask again to agendaize ize an issue that i

requested a couple of weeks before we went on hiatus, and i believe commissioner hamasaki did, as well. i think it's a very important topic, and did does need to be -- it does need to be agendized. i know there was sort of a unilateral action to have d.p.a. investigate this investigation, and it's my understanding that d.p.a. is not equipped to handle this investigation or they haven't done it before. i think we as a commission need to talk about what happened, how it occurred, the manner in which it occurred, as well as address the mannerisms that came out of it and the chief's response. so i do want to set some time aside that we can agendize this issue and figure out the best

course of action that we need to take in response to these actions that have come out. it is very disturbing, and i think we as a commission need more information as well as the community, and also, what we should do going forward to address -- to make sure that there isn't a sentiment in sfpd, especially because we've been working so hard on the bias c.g.o. and also bringing sort of more awareness to the bias issue in the department, so that's my request. >> vice president taylor: thank you. next line item? >> clerk: all right. so now, we will go to public comment. public comment is now being held for item number 2. moderator, are there any callers on the line? >> operator: yes, there's one person on the line.

i'll put them through. >> clerk: hello, caller. you have two minutes. . >> operator: caller, can you speak? the caller is there, but it appears that they have -- they've muted themselves. they're not speaking. >> what? >> operator: caller, you can speak? >> of course i can speak. you didn't tell me. can i speak now? hello? >> clerk: we can hear you. >> so my name is francisco de costa, and, you know, commissioners, for a long time, you haven't met, so i'm kind of listening to the chair -- i believe she's the chair -- kind

of talking about this, that, and the other thing. and in this pandemic, commissioners, you all are, like, stressed out. the chief, you know, at all of the meetings, you kind of had a feeling of just showing up. [please stand by]

and in a pandemic. and, further, i wanted to finally tell you to -- you have to look into why don't we have an incident management commander during this pandemic. why have all of these mickey mouse people that go on assignment and they're called special -- they don't have any talent. you know, pa pandemic. >> you have one question

remaining. >> clerk: thank you, caller. go ahead, you have two minutes. >> caller: good evening, commissioners, chief scott, directive assistant. the san francisco public defender. we appreciate and thank you so much for holding this meeting tonight. this commission and its oversight work is too important to be delayed any longer and i'm glad to see that you're back in operation and it's in a slightly modified form. i'm also very pleased to see that we have 5.17 on bias policing. and that touches on every work that we do. and removing babysit should be and must be a top priority of the sfpd. and calling (indiscernible) unjust and infective, unquote, and renewing the commitment to, quote, treating all people with dignity and respect, is a

positive step for the chief. and i appreciate acknowledging that our office has been asking sarcsfpd to stop posting mugshof arrestees. those who have been arrested are not convicted of any crime and are innocent in the eyes of the law. policinreleasing mugshots it rua very real risk of biasing those being served. and often black and brown and in orange jumpsuits, perpetuates biases and creates biases. and that is to show nothing of the effect of the photos on potential jurors. a photo of a suspect is not necessary to keep the public informed and better alternatives exist to satisfy the public's need to know. and several states mugshots are confidential and the u.s. marshalls refuse to release them

at all. they live forever on the internet and available to future employers and landlords and neighbors, even if there's an acquittal. we thank you the chief for this policy. >> you have one question remaining. >> clerk: hello, caller, you have two minutes. >> operator: hello, caller? caller? >> caller: yes, i'm still here. i'm wondering, i have a question when we can address the policy coming up such as the bias policy and what is the proper time on the agenda to speak to that? >> clerk: that will be line item 5. >> caller: so you call for line item 5, correct?

>> clerk: correct. >> caller: okay, thank you. >> vice-president taylor: there's one more issue and then yours, the bias. >> you have zero questions remaining. >> operator: that is the end of the callers. >> clerk: thank you. >> vice-president taylor: great. commissioner hamasaki. >> commisioner hamasaki: just to briefly follow-up on chief public defender rogers' point and acknowledge -- i mentioned it before and commissioner taylor mentioned it before, but the public defender's office was one of the early voices for a long time speaking out on this issue and so thank you for continuing to push hard. that's how positive change happens in the commission and in the community. so i apologize for leaving you out of that earlier. but thank you for your advocacy around that issue.

>> vice-president taylor: next line item, please. >> clerk: next line item, line item 3, discussion and possible action to approve issuance of department bulletin 20-084, "pride patch project to support at-risk communities in san francisco" which temporarily modifies department general order 10.01 "uniform and equipment." discussion and possible action. >> vice-president taylor: now, sergeant youngblood, is there someone who will speak to this? >> clerk: i believe that chief moder or (indiscernible). >> yeah, sorry, sergeant youngblood, i'll speak to it. commissioners, this as you recall was an initiative initiated by our -- the offices

in our private alliance, the employee group last year. and it came before the committee last year, the first year to modify the uniform to allow the wearing of the pride patch during the month of june. which is official pride month. and the memo calls for allowing officers to wear both the pride patch and the rank insignia or the service stripe to match the patch which is -- which is on the department uniform. the memo also allows for anybody who wishes to, to offer donations with any processes that are generated from that patch to go to a worthy charity. last year it was larken street for youth that were homeless. and i don't know if they have identified the charity this year, but it's the same model this year to try to raise funds

through donations and to donate to the good of the people in san francisco. so that's basically the premise of it. it was extremely popular last year with a lot of support from our department as well as the public. so we were definitely hoping that the commission will approve it again for this year. >> vice-president taylor: thank you, there was a lot of support from the commissioners last year for the pride patches. and it's unfortunate that we can't be there in person so that we can get our own. so should -- do we have public comment before we vote, i think so, right, sergeant? >> clerk: yes. >> vice-president taylor: oka okay. >> operator: there's one person on the line. shall i take the call? >> clerk: yes, please. >> you have one question remaining. >> clerk: hello, caller, you have two minutes. >> caller: john jones here.

i'd like to point out that the commission apparently strongly disapproves of the officers wearing p.o.a. masks at the may 1, 19th avenue and 19th street event. in the public's eye, the commission would approve the pride patches, yet disapprove the p.o.a. masks, i think is just -- it calls for the city and county and the district -- i'd like to point out that when you go, many or most of the people working there have purple s.i.u. shirts are. so i think that you have to back on the pride patches if you come down on the p.o.a. face masks. thank you. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. any other -- >> operator: you have zero questions remaining. >> operator: no other callers for this item. >> vice-president taylor: okay. i think that we have -- is that

commissioner hamasaki, do you have a comment before we vote? you're muted. >> commisioner hamasaki: thank you. technical difficulties. just to follow-up. you know, every -- every year that the department does this, i think this is a great demonstration to the -- to the community of its support of the lgbtq community. and i still have mine right by my desk in my office. and so i think that this is, you know, this is something that matters and makes a difference when -- and to the caller's point, this is a message of tolerance and acceptance. i think that with the mask issue that you can have empathy with

that and i'm happy to support the patches which are a motification of our general orders which is why we have to come before the board of commission to have a vote. >> vice-president taylor: thank you, commissioner? >> and when you're going to alter the uniform in any way, you bring it to the commission and you ask for permission. and those masks weren't just masks, those are political statement masks and there was no request for permission and it was not on the calendar agenda as the lgbt is, and i think that other things that come up. so we can discuss it and the community can discuss it and we can decide what we think is best for the community and the officers. so i just wanted to clarify that. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. so i think we're ready for a vote. >> should we make a motion?

>> vice-president taylor: yeah, i move to accept. is there a motion? >> second. >> vice-president taylor: i heard a second. a second? >> second. >> vice-president taylor: okay. all in favor? >> aye. >> aye. >> vice-president taylor: anyone opposed? i can't see anyone? is there anyone? >> clerk: commissioner due to the form that we're on if we could do a roll call vote on this. >> vice-president taylor: yes, that makes sense. >> clerk: on the motion to accept the pride patch project, commissioner dejesus. yes. commissioner hamasaki. hamasaki, yes. commissioner elias. elias, yes. commissioner brookter? brookter, yes. and finally vice president taylor? you have five yes. >> vice-president taylor: great.

okay, the motion passes and the patches are happily approved. i guess to call the next line item. >> clerk: line item 5, discussion and possible action to approve revised department general order 5.17 "bias-free policying policy" for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the san francisco police officers association for discussion and possible action. >> vice-president taylor: i believe that there's a presenter on this as well. so the public knows that we have 5.03 on the agenda and there was a question that commissioner elias raised this afternoon so i wanted to have enough time to have case law around one of the points and i wanted to have time to have that question answered and we'll ajendize it at a future meeting. >> commissioner elias: that is true and thank you, commissioner taylor, because it was scheduled to be on today and there was a clarification that i needed and

i asked for it to be pulled. so i appreciate accommodating my request. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. who is the presenter for line item 5? i believe that it's -- commander yuen? >> clerk: correct. >> vice-president taylor: oka okay. >> clerk: commander yuen, are you on the line? we can't see you. >> vice-president taylor: while she's getting set up, so commissioner elias and i -- i think that around a year working on this as well as the next one that is up for a vote. and i just want to thank commissioner elias and the

commander yuen who is about to speak and the working group. one of the members called in twice to talk about this. so i really -- this was a herculean effort and we really dug in and drilled down and did a lot of good impactful work. i want to thank everyone who is part of that process and hopefully, commander yuen can kick us off if she's -- technologically -- in the meantime, i do want to second what commissioner taylor said. and i think that this v.g.o., the bias v.g.o. has been in the making for several years. and, in fact, we did have a huge pick-up with respect to it coming before the board of commission for a vote about -- more than a year ago and a half ago. and then we did get it back on track. i do want to acknowledge the executive working group that was created for this v.g.o. and there's so many people to

list and so i wanted to try to name them all but i don't think that i can because i will forget to name somebody but it really was like 20 people in the room, really going over line-by-line, word-for-word this v.g.o. and sort of bringing it up to the sort of 21st century standard. and the prior v.g.o. was from the 1990s and it didn't have all of the language and the content that the current v.g.o. that we'll ask the commission to vote on. and i want to give a shoutout to the chief because some of the sections that are in this d.g.o. are -- are his brainchild. you know, specifically the bias by proxy which i think that is very -- it's sort of a revolutionary section and we don't see that section in a lot of the bias policing -- bias

policing policy that are currently being drafted by other cities and counties across the state or nation. so, you know, a great job, chief, on bringing that -- or adding that language to the d.g.o. and working with dr. everhart to get language and content to address the bias issue. >> vice-president taylor: commander yuen back? available? >> clerk: we do not hear anything. >> vice-president taylor: commissioner elias and i could just talk about it and there are callers who want to talk about it as well. i mean, i just wish understand the herculean effort made to get to where we are to have this before the board of commission.

bias is an issue that is very complicated and very emotional and difficult for people to discuss. so we were able to come together and to create a policy that i think that -- while not perfect, and while, you know, from here forward it will be ever sort of evolving as more statistics and information on bias specifically implicit and explicit bias become available, at least it gives us a great starting point in terms of a d.g.o. >> clerk: you are here. >> okay. hi, i just ran upstairs. i didn't know that i'd get my stairs in today. sorry, can everyone hear me? >> yes. >> great.

okay. vice president taylor and commissioners and chief youngblood. i'm tracy yuen, the commander of the division and a executive sponsor of bias recommendations. i'm here today to present general orders -- sorry, general order 5.17 bias through policing and ask that you approve this policy to move forward. for those of you watching, you will find the policy presented online at sfgov.org/policecommission/meet i sfgov.org/policecommission/meeti ng. i have my -- from there the documents will be listed under "supporting documents" for may 20th meeting. i'd like to begin by thanking the bias working group.

the list of people that you will see are individuals who work tirelessly to represent various organizations in the community. without them, these updated policies would not have been completed. also included in this process are the department subject matter experts both sworn and civilian. the working group members ask questions from subject matter experts and officers to gain an understanding of their experience and expertise. working group members sought their opinion on wording, procedures and the officers' understanding of sears proposed procedures. and an official thank you to commissioner taylor and elias for representing all sides of the discussion and working very hard with everyone to complete these orders. and i would be completely remiss if i didn't mention rachel

tilchuk. without her and everyone agrees that without her that we wouldn't have gone through this. i really appreciate all of her work and continued work on this policy in general. the approach and structure of these policies starts with a statement of purpose. and the definition and then procedures. various iterations of these policies were not clear and did not provide guidance to a level that is needed. and this d.g.o. is entitled "policing -- policy prohibiting bias policing," we want to better describe what it is that we want to accomplish as a department. i think that the commitment to bias-free policing is best described from the opening

paragraph of this policy. the guiding principle of the san francisco police department is committed to treating all people with dignity, fairness and respect. it is crucial for members to carry out their duties in a manner free from bias and eliminate any perception of policing that appears biased. equitable enforcement of the law will continue the focus of the department moving forward. in addition to 5.17, from the 2011 policy, we added definition section to the policy that includes racial identity profiling, bias policing, implicit bias, bias by proxy, which is one of the first really in the country to actually put into policy, and that definition is bias by proxy occurs when

individuals call the police and make false claims about misconduct about persons they dislike or a bias against based on the explicit racial profiling for explicit bias. when police act on service for unlawful bias, they risk perpetuating the caller's bias. members should use a critical decisionmaking skills, drawing on their training to assess whether there is (indiscernible) and the next section is procedures. policing impartially, and a quote from that section, the members should use critical decisionmaking skills, drawing upon their training to assess whether there's evidence of criminal activity after independently assessing the circumstances. when carrying out their duties, members should be cognizant of

racial and identify profiling with bias by proxy. another important section is preventing bias. this section focuses on our interactions with the public and the importance of communicating with individuals in a way that attempts to eliminate perceptions of bias by having officer identify themselves with their name and rank and advise in person the reason for the stop. the other important part of this policy that was added to the training section. we added a new section on training that outlines all of the required anti-bias framing that our members are required to take. these classes include -- equal employment opportunity training and procedural justice, racial and cultural diversity division profiling, creating an inclusive

environment, and managing emaccomplice bias and bias by proxy. in addition to updating this policy we have also added information to some of the documents that our officers provide the public to advise them how to file complaints against an officer. these forms include sfpd105 form which is a follow-up form and our business card. while the process to draft this general order took longer than we anticipated, i believe that 5.17 is a more comprehensive policy because of the time we dedicated to writing it. please let me know if you have any questions. >> vice-president taylor: thank you for putting the list up of names in the working group because i was going to try to

recite them all but i knew that i'd miss somebody. so thank you for that. but a round of applause really does need to go to the group in terms of getting this policy done as well as you too, commander yuen, for sort of herding cats by getting us all together and sort of pushing this forward. so thank you to you as well. >> and to give you a cross-section of the people that came to this working group, we met a lot and for a long time. so you had, you know, the bar association and you had, you know, a number of san francisco public defenders, including demark evans and rebecca young and brian cox and you had members of the department and you had members of the community, too many to name. but andrew jenkins had called in earlier and we had maxim

anderson. and there was so much wonderful collaboration and back-and-forth and really hard work on this. so it's something that i think that we're all proud of. >> vice-president taylor: and thank you to the league of women voters. ashley, and all of the others who were also very vocal and important in this discussion. >> commissioner elias: and our youngest member who was invaluable. >> vice-president taylor: an excellent addition to our working group. >> commissioner elias: yes. i think that there are questions from the commissioners, commissioner hamasaki is that you? >> commisioner hamasaki: yes, that is my penguin, thank you, commissioner, commissioner taylor. i just wanted to, again, you know, these things -- i know that there's already been a lot of thanks and so forth, but this is really important work and, you know, as a department that

is moving into the 21st century policing and taking steps that are above and beyond what other departments around the country are doing, i think -- i think that everybody -- and i'm really glad that you put the powerpoints up with all of the people that worked on this. i recognize a lot of those names. commissioners taylor and elias, and commander yuens, and just, you know, i think that a lot of us come on to this work from an understanding of the necessity of racial justice within policing and within our communities. and i know how hard it is to work on these d.g.o.s. it's such a big and diverse community. and in the finished product, it

is just exemplary work and, you know, i know, as has been said before, you folks put countless hours into this. but this -- i hope and i expect that this will have real on-the-ground change for the department and i think that it's one of those things that is pushing us to the forefront of policing. so thank you for all of your work. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner dejesus: can you hear me? so i'm on there twice and i only want to speak once. but i do want to commend everybody who was involved. i mean, this thing -- the d.g.o. is thorough, and it's all-encompassing. the principles that are enumerated are groundbreaking and new. and the fact that it allows for

this kind of forward type training for the department just makes the department stronger and i move that we accept this d.g.o. >> vice-president taylor: thank you very much. commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: yes, well, i'm happy to second that. i don't want to repeat what my fellow colleagues have said. but i think that this just shows what we as commissioners signed up for in terms of being able to work as a collective and seeing all of the wonderful names on there and knowing karen for years and having an opportunity to hop on board. when he first came on board. so i want to say kudos and thank you for all of your hard work and dedication to this. and i'm happy to second the motion. >> vice-president taylor: great. d.p.a. director henderson? director henderson, did you have a comment? >> i did, but i was muted.

sorry. and i wanted to just acknowledge a lot of the things that were done in this process on behalf of the broad community. because i think that it's really important. a lot of the stuff that was done specifically in this d.g.o., and a lot of the things that we talk about here in terms of procedures for this and the notice given to the community, a lot of the stuff before now, before the memorialization of this are important and it's really important that all of these things are now mandatory and fixed and clear for the broader community. this is a really big deal that this d.g.o. is getting passed and it's a really big deal that it got passed in this manner with an inclusive agenda so that the community was heard and a lot of the stakeholders were at the table collaboratively to get this done. i think that it's a big deal. i didn't want it to pass without acknowledging in light of the many criticisms that we have and

a lot of the work that we had to do moving forward, that occasionally the hard work pays off into something like this. that we can actually see and measure against the work that we all try to do every day. so congratulations to all of those involved and congratulations to the department for taking this big step. so that's it. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. and i think that it's time for public comment and i hope that angela jenkins calls back in, if she's not still on the line. >> clerk: commission, give me one second. okay. moderator, are there any callers on the line for line item 5? >> operator: yes, we have several callers and i'll put the first one through right now. >> you have six questions remaining. >> caller: good evening, john

jones. i -- when i read it is that there's a lot of feel-good language. it's virtue signaling at its worst. when people in san francisco look around and want to figure out why the city is going to hell in a handbasket, they should say look at documents like this. it's hard to be specific in a few minutes. but my feeling about the document is that it reminded me of the old soviet constitution. freedom promises everything and will deliver nothing. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. next caller. >> operator: you have seven questions remaining. >> clerk: caller? >> caller: hello, can you hear me? >> clerk: yes. >> caller: okay. so this is a concern here that the document says that there's a

full awareness of the perception -- the perception that the public has. the perception? the perception is not a challenge on what actually happened. so i find that word "perception" very disturbing. and it should be changed to a growing public awareness of police bias. it's not a perception, it's a reality that people are seeing. and an example of that is how come out of 40 people stopped around the (indiscernible) around the covid shelter-in-place rules that 35 of them were black, and four were latino and one was white. and when you talk about that and say that doesn't talk about the values, i don't care about the values that you have if it doesn't change the action of the police. so the overemphasis to change the policy, n no, we want the publish to see something

different. so the word perception throughout this document is a p.r. word and this is not what this is supposed to do. this is supposed to retrain police and change the way they're acting. and that word "perception" has to go (indiscernible) and you say you are doing a great job, great. who cares if they change. and i hope that they change that word and make sure that it reflects what we're doing and try to change the word perception that is a p.r. job. thank you. >> operator: you have seven questions remaining. >> caller: good evening, commissioners. sharocommissioner taylor, i'm aa jenkins and thank you for the opportunity to address the commission. i appreciate the review and the

updating of the department general order 5.17, bias-free policing policy. i especially appreciate the sub-paragraph on bias by proxy. or another way to say racial profiling. nationally the spotlight is on that dynamic of how every day neighbors criminalize the mere glimpse of a black person. mr. aubrey in the state of georgia is a stark example of that. as he was chased and fatally wounded by two men while he jogged. and stanford professor jennifer everhart who wrote the book "bias" subtitled "uncovering the hidden prejudice that shapes what we see, think or do" describes it this way. racial profiling by proxy this way. and associates blacks with

criminality and the mere thought of violent crime can lead us to shift our eyes away from a white face and toward a black face. therefore, the department bias by proxy policy is helpful to expose the hidden bias between neighbors and can help to mitigate this disturbing trend. thank you commissioner taylor. i have been on the line twice. and i wanted to also shout out to pastor megan roar, they were helpful on our bias work group. thanks. >> vice-president taylor: thank you very much. >> operator: take the next caller? you have five questions remaining. >> clerk: caller, you have two minutes. >> caller: yes, hi. ashley robicheaux, and the league of women voters in california and also a stakeholder of the working

group. and while we support transparency and good government policy, we thank the commission for the dedication to the collaborative reform initiative goal as it pertains to the removal of bias and the perception of bias within the san francisco police department. we thank chief scott and the command staff for their precipitation in this process and we -- participation in this process. and to open up the bias-free working groups so that we may continue our collaboration on the department's bias strategic plan and move forward. rebuilding community trust requires that this process to be open and transparent. i would like to take this moment to request that a vote on the department general order 5.17 be held by this body until full discussion on agenda number 4 is achieved as the amendments pertain to both 5.17 and 5.03. it advocates that officers

provide identification at all levels of engagement consistent with 21st century policing. the current policy provides that the police officers must only provide identification upon request for consensual encounters. we're hopeful that with the policy amendment that this will alleviate any discrepancies within the department training, procedures and policies, so that officers know what proper course to achieve when they are engaging with community members, witnesses and victims. thank you very much. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. >> clerk: next caller, please. >> operator: you have five questions remaining. >> clerk: hello, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: hello, everyone. this is chap lan megan-roar, and i'm the pastor of grace lutheran and sunset. and also a chaplain for the san francisco police department but i speak tonight in my role as a

citizen. commander yuen's running up the stairs is an apt metaphor of her leadership in these efforts to minimize bias. she's a thoughtful listener and has a community-centered heart and is a true shepherd of this work. she fed our group information, best practices, and some of the best food from around our city. and her efforts up those stairs is kind of a metaphor tonight for her efforts to kind of keep us moving on a timeline. to get these important efforts kind of before the commission so that we can realize some of the progress that we've been working on. as a person of faith i'm really proud of these policies and i believe that this model, these d.g.o.s, are going to be a model for police departments around the country. our work group -- i don't know if you know this -- we had months of conversations about business cards and what changes

should be made forward. there was a minority opinion that thought that there needed to be more conversation. we worked over and over and over to send these policies to you the way that they are, because we think that these changes are so important, that they need to happen, and i am really proud of it. i want to also commend the professionalism of the san francisco police department, particularly the leadership of chief scott, the tireless efforts of sergeant richard kilshaw. and i just hopefully -- it's impressed upon you that the citizen committee really put a lot of heart and effort into this and i'm so proud to say that it has come. thank you all for taking on these policies tonight. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. >> operator: you have four questions remaining. >> clerk: caller, you have two minutes. >> caller: good evening, commissioners. chief scott, the executive director, with deputy public

defender brian cox. i would like to thank the commission and the commission staff for making this meeting happen under extraordinary times and commissioner taylor and elias and everyone in the working group for their efforts to produce d.g.o.s, and the real hero of the operation, richally kilshaw. i think that this represents a step forward in eliminating bias in policing starting with the name itself. as a d.g.o. becomes live along with the public you are watching to see how it will be implemented and enforced. in particular, and given the recent comments by implicit bias training, i am curious to see how they will evaluate the effectiveness of this d.g.o. and the efforts to maintain a bias-free police force. and creating effective measures to evaluate bias beyond the tools available, particularly impercal tools, to ensure that the d.g.o. is successful. we know that, for example, that african americans are stopped at a dispr disproportionate rate in

francisco. and african americans represented 23% of the stops and 39% of the searches. but the data doesn't show is why that's happening. data can help to guide the search for answers. given the sfpd commitment with this new d.g.o., it should do more to explain data like this and so that the hard work and noble intentions don't go to waste. thank you. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. >> clerk: thank you. next call. >> operator: you have two questions remaining. >> clerk: caller, you have two minutes. >> caller: hi, good evening, can you hear me? >> clerk: yes. >> caller: hi, this is julie trom from the bar association and i'm too one of the members of this working group. and not just the most recent iteration of this group but the prior and original group. so it's been a long time coming. the bar association's role i think has always been to lend a hand to our police department, and to make sure that our d.g.o.s are well researched

and become state of the art and modeled throughout the rest of the country. i do have to take a moment to just acknowledge and to appreciate chief scott, who i think made very clear that this particular d.g.o. was very important to him. and he undertook the time and the research and he contributed very wisely, as everyone has already said. he contributed to the bias-by-proxy section which we found to be so important to this work. and also i want to acknowledge the role of the community members and angela jenkins sits on so many of these working groups with me and she has always been such a great contributor and sort of my comrade. rahm jones i think represents some of the younger people on our group, and i feel that we need more like rome. he was the one who brought to our attention the twitter feed from the tenderloin police station with the mugshots.

and all of our attention became galvanized on that and the bias-by-proxy and the problems with that. i thank the chief and others for undertaking that additional work there. one part that is not included in this d.g.o. that i wish that was, but i think that we can bring it up in the -- in our strategic planning is the training and the important role of scenario-based training. many of us have attended a lot of the bias training with the police department. and i think that having a partnership with the police department and including officers to make it relevant to other officers is very critical. so i will -- i do hope that we continue to include that as we go forward. thank you. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. >> operator: you have three questions remaining. >> clerk: good evening. you have two minutes. >> caller: so what i see is a

group of people that haven't been on the front lines. none of the speakers that are saying something about being bias-free are talking about some set of bias without addressing cultural competency. so i would say these people who are talking on the strategy, when we had the oscar grant scenario or the marro mario woos scenario, or when we have to deal with cops who are brought here to create some sort of a document, which hasn't been articulated. so basically what i'm saying is that this -- they can talk the

talk. but they will only walk the walk when they deal with the community. we need to get young people, really young people, together for feedback about what is this issue about. anybody having a bias. and what about cultural competency? and if you don't, you know, there's a word, called about studying about what they really mean, then we're just talking the talk. i want to walk the walk. thank you very much. >> clerk: next caller, please. >> operator: you have two questions remaining. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: this is r.j. sloan.

pre-covid i was walking in soma about 2:30 in the afternoon and i was approached and detained by three undercover police members. they had chains around their necks and they detained me and said they had witnessed me buying drugs. and that i needed to -- i needed to give them the drugs that i had just purchased, according to them. or if i didn't give them the drugs i would be taken downtown. i was told that if i did give them the drugs that i had not purchased, and therefore, was not able to provide them, that i would just be given a ticket. so i had a chance to experience for the first time, although i lived in harlem in new york,

what hundreds of thousands of black and brown young men have had to endure under rudy guiliani's -- rudy guiliani's stop-and-frisk policy that lasted for many years. and it went on for at least 10 years in new york city. so i contacted my supervisor matt hand haney immediately and documented the incident and i was passed on to the soma police precinct captain. and i never got a response from the soma policing captain with regard to assisting a citizen in filing a complaint against the sfpd. i didn't get an email response, i didn't get a telephone call.

despite supervisor haney's office and staff intervening on my behalf and introducing me via email to the soma policing captain. so i do plan to pick up this matter and to move forward with filing a police complaint but i do need -- >> operator: you have one question remaining. >> clerk: good evening. you have two minutes. >> caller: thank you. hi. i'm maxim anderson, a resident of san francisco, and a member of several community organizations, including the league of women voters of san francisco. thank you for holding this virtual police commission hearing. the police commission mission is to set policy for the san francisco police department. and you're setting policy and i would urge you to make sure that any policy adopted includes an

organizational performance approach to evaluate the impact of any policies, practices, and procedures aimed at reducing bias within the department as set forth in the department of justice's recommendations. and i would urge that every policy and approach your body sets is done with the goal of maximum transparency to protect the people's right to know. thank you very much. >> vice-president taylor: thank you. i was on mute before but i was asking director henderson to follow up with the caller who had the complaint. so when public comment is over i want you to announce your number and how to get in contact with you. >> operator: you have zero questions remaining. >> operator: that concludes the members of the public in the queue for this item. >> vice-president taylor:

great. director henderson, make sure that the public knows how to get in touch with your office. >> absolutely. they can contact the office, the phone number is 241-7711. or they can find us directly at dpa, and go online and contact us directly and we can follow-up with that, specifically for that individual that was just calling and i was trying to put a side comment while he was talking. but we're available online or by calling us directly and you will get a live answer if you call 24 hours a day. >> vice-president taylor: perfect, thank you. okay. do i have any questions from the commissioners before we take a vote? commissioner hamasaki, do you have a question? historic preservation commission >> commisioner hamasaki: iwante.

i have to say that first of all the public comment is -- we're having a banner turnout tonight and i think that's wonderful. honestly we know -- i think that we understand how hard the regular police commission meetings can be to make and to speak, so, you know, there's -- and i have been taking notes and i really appreciate and i'm sure that we all really appreciate people showing up and speaking out. the one comment that i had that i wanted to follow up on with the number of the callers on is, you know, -- drafting policy is a long and arduous process that in -- we end up negotiating line-by-line, word-by-word, and a single word can end up in 20 emails and, you know, background research and as the one today that got pulled, i guess from case law.

and, you know, i want people -- i would like -- and i understand the concerns, but even -- even a little step forward, and this is more than a little step forward, a step forward in bias in all aspects of our life and our community is an ongoing challenge. and we're not going to knock it out in one day. this country was founded on it. we have a lot of work to do. and, you know, this is a good first step and i don't think that any of the challenges should detract from that. and the caller that raised the issue, that's been a long discussion and i think that it's a discussion worth revisiting. and thank you for raising that. so i appreciate all of the callers tonight. >> vice-president taylor: thank you, commissioner. i do think that, you know,

addressing this -- one of the caller's comments regarding 5.03, that will be before the commission very soon, possibly at the next meeting. i will ask to agendize it so we can bring it before the commission for a vote. i see no other hands raised -- does anyone -- sorry -- is there a motion -- with respect to d.g.o. 5.17. >> clerk: you have a motion -- >> vice-president taylor: okay, you want to do roll for a vote. >> clerk: line item 5 on the motion to approve the rerevised department general order 5.17, bias-free policing policy for the department to use in meeting

and comeetconferring. commissioner dejesus, yes. commissioner hamasaki. hamasaki, yes. commissioner elias. elias, yes. commissioner brookter. brookter, yes. and vice president taylor. yes. you have five yes. >> vice-president taylor: great. call the next line item. >> clerk: all right. line item 6, discussion and possible action to adopt revised department general order 11.07, "prohibiting discrimination, harassment and retaliation," meet-and-confer draft was approved by the commission on january 15, 2020, discussion and possible action. >> vice-president taylor: this should be a lot faster because it was approved by the commission and it went to meet and confer and came back with no changes. this is also part of the work, the same bias working group did. so i don't know if there are

questions from commissioners on 11.07? all right, any public comment on 11.07? >> operator: i see one caller on the line. >> clerk: thank you. >> operator: okay, here you go. >> operator: you have two questions remaining. >> clerk: good evening. you have two minutes. >> caller: hi. i'm jenny sae and i'm a board member and co-chair of the advocacy for the league of women voters for san francisco. thank you for holding this public meeting and cutting through the technical difficulties earlier. regarding item 6 on d.g.o. 11.07, the league of women voters of san francisco want to express our support for the concerns from the march 4, 2020, sfpd collaborative reform initiative phase two progress report. over the policy language in d.g.o. 11.07, that currently

limits the reporting of internal complaints to 180 days, rather than the one-year provision provided by the california fair employment and housing act, the government code section 21940. without this amendment to d.g.o. 11.07, we strongly believe that the sfpd would fail in compliance with resolving findings 28, 76, 69, and not meeting recommendations 69.1 from the usdgo findings back in october 2016. we urge the commission to concur with the d.o.j. findings and the recommendations of reiterated by on march fourth concerning the d.g.o. 11.07. and this will make clear that sfpd will not tolerate discrimination and harassment and retailiation. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you, moderator, ca more callers?

>> operator: you have one question remaining. >> clerk: good evening, calle caller. >> caller: my name is john jones. and this is an item which has already been approved in draft form. and two minutes it's difficult to make any kind of detailed criticism. but with a broadbrush, i want to say that it's my impression that this kind of language, this kind of document used to the government employee relations, you're weaponizing the work environment. when the people of san francisco want to wonder where or why their city has gone to hell in a handbasket, they've got to come to talk to the police commission for putting out documents like this and expecting us to take it seriously. thank you. >> operator: you have zero questions remaining. >> vice-president taylor: that concludes the public comment for

this item. thank you. i have no questions from commissioners. do i have a motion? >> i'm sorry it looks like somebody just called in for the item before you continue. >> vice-president taylor: yes, go ahead. >> operator: okay, i'll pull threat through. >> operator: you have one question remaining. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: we're having problems with this -- with this -- you know, audio line -- (please stand by)

>> they are given money, they are given privilege, and they concentrate on dividing and ruling the community. so you may ride the discussions, you may ride the papers but -- >> operator: you have one question remaining. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> good evening, commissioners. i am rebecca young, and i specialize in community and collaborative reports for the public defender's office.

first, i hope you don't get tired of congratulations and thank yous. first, i want to thank chief scott. i believe this d.g.o. would not have been written without your insistence. this group contained many disparate members of our community, and we would -- i'm grateful for this d.g.o. as a member of the public defender's office. i feel this brings the san francisco police department into the 21 century, and the community is going to be grateful. the community doesn't know about this d.g.o. yet -- fully, at least, and i really

appreciate the inclusion of bias by proxy and the inclusion of the piece on training. i really encourage the commission to adopt the c.g.o. in full as it is and push it forward in your negotiations with members of the police department. thank you so much. >> vice president taylor: thank you. >> operator: you have zero questions remaining. >> operator: and it looks like that was the final caller. >> vice president taylor: thank you. commissioner dejesus, did you have a question? >> commissioner dejesus: yeah, can you hear me? >> vice president taylor: yes. >> commissioner dejesus: look, i think this is great. it came back from the p.o.a., but i think there needs to be a few clarification. i looked at the paragraph that the leader from the league of

women voters was talking about, and it says it has to be brought back 180 days from when it was first talking about. i was wondering, did we have these recommendations from the d.o.j. before we send it off to meet and confer? and i was wondering, if we change that one thing, would it have to go back to the meet and confer process? >> it would. that was something that we talked about during the working group, and that was something that d.h.r. felt strongly about because that's city policy for all departments and agencies, so that was something that was discussed and rediscussed before it went to meet and confer. >> commissioner dejesus: so it's consistent with the other city policies? >> yeah. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. >> we included that language. in fact, we sent it over, and d.h.r. --

>> commissioner dejesus: sent it back. >> yeah, and cut it out so it would conform. and members of the working group as well as commissioner taylor and myself were adamant about that, but that was something that they weren't going to adopt. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. all right. >> they came back with that change, and we fought that fight. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. thank you. >> clerk: commissioners, commander ewing would like to say something. >> did she run up a flight of stairs first? >> yeah, i need to get my exercise in today. so also in addition to going to -- it can be either a city or it can be a state filing, and our members can have that option of going local or state or filing federal, as well, in filing a complaint. so i just wanted to make that clear to everybody, and to have

that longer time frame. >> okay. okay. >> vice president taylor: okay. do we need to make a motion again or how does this go because it was already -- the draft was already approved by the commission? >> we move for a vote, don't we? >> commissioner dejesus: well, what are we voting on? is there a motion to readopt it? i thought that we voted on it. >> vice president taylor: let's ask -- sorry. commissioner youngblood. >> you are going to approve it to be adopted. >> vice president taylor: so i need a motion? >> clerk: yes, you do. >> vice president taylor: okay. can i get a motion? is there a motion to adopt? >> commissioner dejesus: motion. >> vice president taylor: is

there a second? >> commissioner hamasaki: second, john. >> vice president taylor: all right. so you want to take roll? >> clerk: all right. on-line item 6, the motion to adopt d.g.o. 11.06 -- [roll call] >> clerk: you have five yeses. >> vice president taylor: okay. let's call the next line item. >> clerk: line item 7, discussion and possible action to adopt revised department general order 6.03, underwater diving operation. meet and confer draft was

approved by the commission on december 11, 2019, discussion and possible action. >> vice president taylor: and this was another d.g.o. that went to the commission, back to meet and confer, and now it's back from meet and confer with no changes. >> vice president taylor: i make a motion to adopt. is there a second? >> commissioner hamasaki: second. >> vice president taylor: call roll? >> clerk: commissioner, we need public comment. >> vice president taylor: oh, right, sorry. >> clerk: moderator, are there any public comments on the line? >> operator: there are no callers on the line. maybe we want to wait a second for people to try to call in, but right now, it's empty. and the queue is still empty. >> vice president taylor: okay. again, i move to adopt.

>> clerk: okay. so line item 7, on the motion to accept d.g.o. 6.03 and the underwater diving operations -- [roll call] >> clerk: you have five yeses. >> vice president taylor: great. the motion passes. next line item. >> clerk: line item 8, discussion and possible action to adopt the revised department general order 11.15, physical fitness evaluation program. meet and confer draft was approved by the commission on february 13, 2019. discussion and possible action. >> vice president taylor: this was another d.g.o. that was

approved by the commission, and then it went back to meet and confer. it's now back from meet and confer with no changes. >> commissioner dejesus: i move to adopt. >> commissioner hamasaki: second. >> vice president taylor: public comment? >> operator: there's no public comment at this time. >> vice president taylor: okay. sergeant, can you call roll? >> clerk: yes. on the motion to adopt order 11.10, the physical fitness program -- [roll call] >> clerk: you have five yeses. >> vice president taylor: thank you. the motion passes. next line item. >> clerk: all right. our next line item is public --

general public comment. at this time, the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or d.p.a. personnel. under police commission rules of record, during public comment, neither police or d.p.a. personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. to join public comment, dial

888-273-2658, enter the access code 3107452, press pound twice, and then request to speak, press one, and then zero. moderator, are there any callers on the line? >> operator: there are no callers on the line at this time. oh, there appears to be one caller now. i'll put it through. >> operator: you have one question remaining. >> clerk: hello, caller. you have two minutes. >> hi. as a member of the public, i really appreciate the work that this commission does, both in its oversight role and its ability to take care of the officers of the department. as someone who cares deeply

about police oversight and the safety of our officers, i am deeply concerned about the privatization of this body by one of your members during this pandemic. if it is the policy of this commission to not comment or engage back and forth, then commissioner hamasaki should not be allowed to to ppander ts community. we would appreciate if commissioner hamasaki would not use this body to inflate his already inflated ego. it's only serving as a

distraction to the important role of the commission. i believe the commission can do its work without commissioner hamasaki making everything about himself. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. >> operator: you have one question remaining. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> hello? this is yolanda williams, president of the officers for justice. i want to say that we wholeheartedly support accountability and transparency, and we're appreciative of the bias policing policy that is now in effect because it's important that all human beings be treated with dignity and respect. that being said, i'm happy to hear about the recent changes that are also in effect for d.g.o. 11.07, but i think in order for us to ensure that it has the muscles that is needed

to ensure that members feel like they can invoke their right to blow the whistle or to support not on my watch policies and philosophy, we need to have a more robust internal reporting policy. that's why i request that d.h.r. be called to present a report of their results of handling complaints from 2015 up to the current date so that we can figure out why there have been so many delays and complaints by members of sometimes not even being interviewed after filing complaints, and that's all i have. and thank you very much, commissioners, for allowing this virtual meeting. >> operator: you have zero questions remaining. >> operator: that concludes the caller on this item. >> vice president taylor:

thank you. commissioner hamasaki? >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you. and i'd like to just briefly address the caller who was directing some comments at me. you know, i'm sorry we don't see eye to eye on this, but i do appreciate your concern for the city and the department. feel free to reach out to me any time. i'm a commissioner. i work for the city. i work for you as well as everybody else and i'm happy to work with you and address any concerns. my e-mail is on the website, and i'm easy to find. thank you. >> vice president taylor: thank you. and i would like to add that no matter what was said and done, the fact is we are up and running. we have -- you know, we worked really hard to get where we are in terms of getting this meeting up and operating and figuring out public comment, and we were hoping that we wouldn't have any glitches today, but we are, but that's

fine. we -- this is the new normal, and we're going to continue to sort of roll with the punches. the point is we're back up, and our meeting are going forward. i think that's the most important thing to focus on and not lose sight of the other stuff. >> vice president taylor: yes, i agree. and if i haven't thanked commissioner youngblood and everyone else for making this happen, i do now. all right. commissioner dejesus? commissioner dejesus? you might be muted. commissioner dejesus, are you still with us? >> commissioner dejesus: wait a minute. i am. >> vice president taylor: i

think you're muted. you're muted. okay. you're back. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. am i back? >> vice president taylor: yes. >> commissioner dejesus: all right. so the little bar wouldn't come on, so i couldn't get off of mute. you know, a little foot stamping really helped get us back on board, so i do -- however we got back on board, i think it was all of us, in our own way, contributing to that -- [no audio] >> commissioner dejesus: you all did everything in your power in your own way for getting us back on. so we're here, and i just want to go forward. >> vice president taylor: all right. i'm not going to fight on this. what's important is we're back

up and running, and everyone here in their hearts knows what happened. commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: i was just asking that we call next item. >> vice president taylor: thank you. next item? >> clerk: line item 11, public comment on all matters pertaining to item 12 below, closed session, including public comment on item 11, vote whether to hold item 12 in closed session. >> vice president taylor: is there a motion? is there a motion? >> commissioner elias: motion. i'll make the motion. >> commissioner brookter: second. >> vice president taylor: i think we need public comment. >> operator: there are no callers on the line at this time. >> vice president taylor: okay. do we call roll? >> clerk: so we have -- all right. [roll call]

. >> clerk: i'm sorry. how do you vote -- hold on one second. i have the wrong papers. apologies. so now it's onto line item 11, vote on whether to hold line item in 12 session, including whether to invoke the attorney-client privilege with regards to items 12 a, b, and c, san francisco administrative code section 67. >> commissioner dejesus: this is commissioner dejesus. i second. [roll call]

>> clerk: commissioner, you have five votes. we are then going into closed session. commissioners, at this point in time, we'll now all go over to the closed session. if you could go over to the calendar for closed session. for the remainder of the people that are still here, we will be back to adjourn. >> vice president taylor: okay.

good morning, everyone. the meeting will come to order. this is the may 20th, 2020, rescheduled budget and finance committee meeting. i'm sandra lee fewer, chair of the budget and finance committee. i'm joined by committee members shamann walton and rafael mandelman. our clerk is miss linda wong. i'd like to thank lawrence bryant from sfgov tv for broadcasting this meeting. madam clerk, do you have any announcement? >> clerk: yes, ma'am. the board of supervisors, legislative chair and committee room are closed. however, members will participate in the meeting remotely, at the same extent if they're physically present. public