management, d.e.m., received a 911 called regarding an aggravated assault and possible robbery about this incident. officered responded to a priority call regarding a report of a male subject who had instruct the victim with a wooden board. at the time of the occurrence, the victim was walking his dog when he was struck multiple times by the suspect who waited in the alcove of a building. a description of the suspect was provided by the 911 caller to the dispatcher, and that description is as follows: an african american gentleman with braids and about 6 feet or so, maybe 170 or 180 pounds. he's wearing a white sweatshirt, white-type shirt, and a lighter pair of pants. he has a board with him.

central direction officers were -- district officers responded located the crime scene and summoned emergency medical aid for the victim. officers were informed that the suspect had fled on foot after the attack. the victim initially believed his phone had been taken during the incident but later located it near the scene. at 6:36 a.m., approximately one hour after the initial aggravated assault call, d.e.m. received a 911 call from the pier hotel, which is located at 540 jones street. the caller stated the following: we need the police to come to the pier hotel quick. there's a guy in here. he's waving knives at people and all kinds of stuff. he won't leave the building. he's locked himself behind the door and keeps swinging a

bloody blood. i seen him. i don't know what it is, but he keeps reaching for it, but he keeps swinging the two-by-four. the caller described the subject as a light skinned slim african american male with dreads, in his late 20s or early 30s, 5'9", wearing a red and white shirt. the caller said, i've got to get off the phone. he looks like he's going to hit disconnected.. d.e.m. received the call at 6:36. tenderloin officers were dispatched at 6:39 and arrived at 6:43. while the officers were en route to this incident, the

dispatcher advised them of the former incidents in the central, jones and geary that had a similar, possibly same suspect description, with the two-by-four. officers arrived at the hotel at 6:43 am m., and entered the lobby, where they observed a man later identified as thomas o'bannon in the clerk's office. at this time, they began speaking to mr. o'bannon in a space in the plexiglass enclosure. for the next several minutes, officers attempted to call mr. o'bannon. during this time, he refused officers' requests to place his

hands in the break in the plexi glass for cuffing. the officer noticed that mr. o'bannon continuously glanced to the less lethal weapon that he was holding. the officer explained that it was a "bean bag gun," and it was lesser force, and it was because mr. o'bannon had a weapon. mr. o'bannon made such statements at this time as i ain't going back, i ain't going to hurt no one, and there ain't going to be no peace. a sergeant took over contact with mr. o'bannon and attempted to persuade him to surrender peacefully. mr. yo bannon then began to alternately pace in the room and sit in the chair.

then, a paramedic began to speak with mr. o'bannon. she explained that she was not a police officer, and she wanted to provide medical care to mr. o'bannon. she wanted him to leave the room so she could provide medical care to him. mr. o'bannon would not leave the room. 7:25, sfpd officers resumed speaking with mr. o'bannon. mr. o'bannon became agitated, picking up the wooden board, again holding it diagonally across his body. at 7:25 a.m., a woman who identified herself as a case manager attempted to speak with mr. o'ban an. the case manager asked him to pass the board through the

plexi glass window several times and mr. o'bannon refused. the case manager was later identified to be an employee of the tender line housing clinic. the case manager continued to try to speak with mr. o'bannon for several minutes. mr. o'bannon alternated speaking with the case manager and striking the wall and window with the board. he then thrust the wooden board against the plexi glass opening and slammed it against the rail of the opening. due to this, the case manager could not continue safely speaking to mr. o'bannon. officers again began to speak with mr. o'bannon. at 7:52, sfpd had been on scene

for 1:09. officers formulated a plan and issued verbal commands to mr. o'bannon as they attempted to take him into custody. mr. o'bannon placed the board over his head in a striking motion. mr. o'bannon then lost control of the board and failed to comply with officers' directives. at this time, officers in the lobby deployed o.c. spray. pepper extraction is commonly referred to as pepper spray and less lethal force via a bean

bag gun through the plexi glass window. mr. o'bannon later obtained an item in his hand, later identified as a screwdriver and exited the room while still holding the item in his left-hand. as officers exited onto the sidewalk, one of the exiting officers tripped and fell onto his stomach. the officer quickly stood and began running from mr. o'bannon, who continued to pursue quickly behind him. mr. o'bannon then attempted to

overtake him. from the body worn cam, it appears that the officer discharged his firearm three times. mr. o'bannon fled south on jones street then east on ellis street, and officers pursued on foot. mr. o'bannon ran into glide memorial church. mr. o'ban non stopped in the lobby while he brandished the screwdriver. he ignored officers' repeated requests to get on the ground. mr. o'bannon turned and ran through an open stairwell, running to the basement. the door closed and locked behind him, preventing the officers from pursuing down the stairway. officers attempted to descend a separate stairway a short time later. at this time, mr. o'bannon

opened a fire extinguisher, locked himself in the basement with two kitchen knives. officers established a a perimeter around glide memorial church. the hostage negotiation team arrived on scene and continued to negotiate the hostage surrender of mr. o'bannon for 11 hours. officers planned and executed the rescue of an employee who was sheltered in a basement room adjacent to where mr. o'bannon was located. officers made contact with the family of mr. o'bannon who responded to the scene and provided assistance during this incident. near the end of the incident,

mr. o'bannon ceased negotiations and communications with hostage negotiation testimony members. officers then located mr. o'bannon in the basement, where they used less lethal force to take him into custody. it was determined that mr. o'bannon was not struck by gun fire. mr. o'bannon was treated for nonlife threatening injuries at zuckerberg san francisco general hospital where he was hospitaled for preexisting medical conditions unrelated to this incident. evidence. evidence was located at the incident scene of the officer-involved shooting at well as glide memorial church. evidence included a wooden blood with what appeared to be blood on it, two fire extinguishers, and several large kitchen knives.

video. video was recovered from multiple sources, including approximately 180 body worn camera videos, ten private surveillance videos, and an additional video is being sought by our investigators. witnesses. witnesses to the officer-involved shooting have been interviewed, and independent witnesses to the preliminary crimes have been located and also interviewed. additional witnesses are being sought by investigators. the suspect. the san francisco district attorney's office has filed charges against mr. o'bannon on april 23, 2020. the charges consist of the following. one count of 245-a-1 of the california penal code, assault with a deadly weapon.

one count of 245-a-4 of the california penal code, assault likely to result in graeat bodily injuried. they've also filed two enforcements of the california penal code. the officer involved in this incident is jordan townsend, officer 2457. he is a veteran of the police department. in according to officer policy, all members involved in a shooting are immediately placed on paid administrative leave. as the chief mentioned previously, there are additional investigations. they are as follows. the independent investigations bureau of the san francisco district attorney's office and the san francisco police department investigative services detail are conducting an investigation into this incident. the sfpd internal affairs division is also conducting an

investigation administrative in nature. investigators are in the process of determining if any other related incidents occurred in this area prior to the officer-involved shooting. and finally, mr. o'bannon is currently under investigation for four vandalism and burglary incidents that occurred in the morning of tuesday, april 21 prior to the incident on jones street. at this time, we are going to transition to the playing of 911 calls, dispatch tape, and the playing of both body worn camera and surveillance video. prior to doing so, i am going to read a statement. you are about to see relevant video footage and other evidence related to this case so you can have a better

underi understanding of what occurred right now. we are still in the early stages of an investigation that can take months to complete, and we understand that conditions may change as evidence is collected and reviewed. we do not draw any conclusions as to whether the officers acted in compliance and in policy with the law until the investigation is complete. a word of caution. the images and words hear may be disturbing. when the police officer tries to prevent an attack, there may be strong language used. viewer discretion is advised, especially for young children and sensitive viewers. we encourage those who need help to contact the city of san francisco public health crisis

line at 415-978-3800.

>> we will now play a 911 call. this audio was provided to the san francisco police department from the san francisco department of management. the audio is the 911 call from the aggravated assault incident reported on april 21, 2020. this incident occurred on the 600 block of post street. please note, the victim's voice has been changed to protect his safety. >> san francisco 911. what is your emergency. >> yes. [bleep]. >> i'm calling from my cell phone number, and i was walking down first street towards downtown, and i was -- i told

you the block. any ways, i was attacked by an african american gentleman with braids, and he's about 6 feet or so, maybe 170, 180 pounds. he had a -- [inaudible] >> no. >> okay. where are you, sir? >> i'm -- [inaudible] >> okay. what's your address? >> my address is -- [bleep]. >> and what room or apartment are you in? [bleep]. >> i'm headed out with my dad at the time. >> okay. well, what do you want to do? do you want to speak with the officers? >> yes, i would.

and i'll have to file a complaint. >> i know. what do you want to do? >> right now, i'm going down to -- >> okay. well, we don't make appointments, so do you want to go get your dog and call me back? >> all right. all right. >> is that what you want to do? >> yes. >> do you need an ambulance? >> i don't know -- i don't need an ambulance. i've just got a bloody nose. >> okay. so you're -- [bleep] -- now? >> no, i'm walking towards downtown, and i am looking for the dfor -- i am on post, and i'm looking for the dog. >> you're on post where? >> walking towards --

[inaudible] >> i think it was the next block. >> okay. when you see the officers, flag them down, okay? >> i will. >> okay. do you remember what this guy had on? what he was wearing? >> no -- yes, i do. he's wearing white in front of -- [inaudible] >> he was clean. >> sir, what was he wearing? he was wearing a white what? >> he was wearing a white-type shirt, and he's standing right down the street. the next building down is the

u.s. hotel. >> the u.s. hotel? >> 737. >> okay. and where are you now? >> we're by farm table, kind of across the street and down from him. he's standing there with a board. >> all right. when you see the officers, [bleep], flag them down. >> all right. >> thank you. >> we will now play a second 911 call, which was also provided by the san francisco department of emergency management. the call is from the pierre hotel, where the subject was reported to be waving a wooden board. the call was received at 6:36 a.m. >> san francisco 911. what's the exact location of the emergency?

>> 940 jones street -- no, 540 jones street. we need you to come to the pierre hotel quick. there's a guy in here. he's waving a knife and all kind of stuff at people, and you won't leave the building. >> okay. what's your name? [bleep]. >> he locked hisself behind the door, and he keeps swinging a weapon and a two-by-four. >> wait, wait, wait. is it a knife or a two-by-four? >> i don't know, but he keeps swinging something and a two-by-four. he won't leave, and he's locked hisself on here. >> okay.

[inaudible] >> what does he look like? white? black? asian. >> he's light skinned, with dreads. >> okay. is he black? >> yeah, he's light skinned with dreads. >> how old is he? >> maybe late 30s, early 40s. >> how tall is he? >> 5'9". >> how heavy? >> he's not leaving, so i need somebody here immediately. >> yeah, i've got them on their way, but is he thin, medium, heavy? >> thin. >> what is he wearing? >> red shirt. >> do you know what color pants he has on? >> hold on.

it's a light shirt with blue jeans. >> white shirt? >> yeah. >> white shirt with blue jeans? >> yeah. >> did you actually see the knife or not? >> i didn't see the knife. >> did you see him reaching for something? >> yeah, the residents told me they seen it. >> okay. hold on. and you also saw him reaching for something that's not the

two-by-four? >> yeah. >> and you said the two-by-four is bloody? >> yeah. >> like, there's a lot of blood on it? >> yes. >> okay. what's your phone number? [bleep] >> okay. and -- hold on one second. what is he doing right now? >> he's not leaving. he's locked in there, going through stuff. >> let me ask you a protocol question. have you or anyone in that location been suspected or confirmed of having coronavirus? >> no. >> okay. do you or someone else at this location have flu-like symptoms? >> no. >> and you wouldn't be able to speak for that person waving the two-by-four around them?

>> uh, no. yeah, i've got to get off the phone because he looks like he's going to hit my co-workers. >> okay. is he in the same room? >> no, he's trying to open the door. >> which door is he trying to open? >> the following audio is a recording of a d.e.m. dispatcher broadcasting information to officers who are en route to 540 jones street. >> be advised earlier there was a 594 and a 211 in the central jones and geary, possibility of

a suspect description of a gentleman with a two-by-four. [inaudible] >> i'll advise them. . >> the next six videos are from one of the first officers to arrive on scene on jones street. one of six. in the video, officers are seen making contact with mr. o'bannon, who is inside of the enclosed clerk's office.

[inaudible] >> sir, what are you doing? are you going to cooperate? can we all get away from the lobby? sir, can we talk peacefully without -- >> what's on your waist? [inaudible] >> okay, well, here's the deal. we don't want to do anything we have to do today if you've got weapons. do you have weapons on you, bro? are we going to do this peacefully, like adults? what i want to do is can you put your hands outside peacefully so i can handcuff

you and walk you out. what's on your hands? [inaudible] >> blood? [inaudible] >> whose blood? okay. i'm going tolove up. [inaudible] >> don't d anything silly, all right? >> we're bud, do you have a i o you? >> no. ou a knife? >> no. >> can you lift up your t-shirt for me? yeah, lift up your t-shirt so i can see. >> all right. >> all right. where are you bleeding from? >> okay. turnaround, put your hands behind your back so i can handcuff you. we'll get you an ambulance so you can get all checked out. how does that sound? >> good, man. good. >> what's your name?

sir, talk to me. what's your name? >> body worn camera two of six. in the video, officers are overheard speaking with mr. o'bannon and attempting to safely handcuff him through the document opening in the clerk's office. an officer requests that additional officers respond to 540 jones street as well as an ambulance. >> come on. come out here where i can handcuff them and we'll come out here safely. >> put your hands up. >> you're not in trouble. we don't know what's going on. all we know is there's a guy bleeding with a piece of wood. >> let us help you.

[inaudible] >> don't force me to do things i don't want to do. let me put you in handcuffs. [inaudible] >> the handcuffs are for our safety and your safety. you're not under arrest. [inaudible] >> we're trying to make this a peaceful resolution, so are you going to help us out? >> sorry. if you come out, you're going to leave your hands where we can see them and on top of your head. [inaudible] >> so you're not going to come out? >> suspect is not being very cooperative. he's locked in the front desk. [inaudible] >> he's also covered in blood.

[inaudible] >> yeah, you should glove up. sir -- >> body worn camera three of six. in the video, the officers speak with mr. o'bannon, who is seen throughout the video holding the wooden board. officers ask him to put the board down and observe that his hand is bleeding. >> yeah, you should glove up. sir, i think i've been very

reasonable. please put the board down. [inaudible] >> why? why are you so angry? why are you so angry? [inaudible] >> can you not? [inaudible] >> well, i've asked you for a peaceful resolution, and you do not want to cooperate with had h he -- with me. you did not want to come out. he's still refusing to coopera cooperate. [inaudible] >> going back where? i'm just trying to get you to go to the hospital. what's wrong, man? you haven't even told me what's wrong. >> we're just trying to help you, man.

>> body worn camera four of 6. in the segment, an sfpd sergeant is seen attempting to speak with mr. o'bannon and offering him help and medical assistance. [inaudible] >> how can we help you today? is there anything that we can do to help you? [inaudible] >> sir, can you speak

little bit? can you speak up a little bit? [inaudible] >> okay. we want you to make this thing easy on us, okay? we'd really appreciate that. could you -- could you come out so we can get you checked out by an ambulance? >> body worn camera five of six. in the clip, a san francisco fire department paramedic speaks with mr. o'bannon. [inaudible] >> how are you? what's your name? what's your name. >> can you please tell me your

name? [inaudible] >> you want to come out? do you see my gurney right here? >> body worn camera six of six. in this segment, a woman at the scene who identified herself as a case manager in the building spoke with mr. o'bannon.

[inaudible] >> is there anything i can do for you now? do you need anything? >> the next segment is from video cameras inside the officers open at 540 jones the back door of the office and attempt to take mr. o'bannon into custody.

e will now play alo rsionf the previous video. this video haseen slowed to highlight thed bo o'bannon's possession of a screwdriver, and the officer's use of pepper spray.

>> the next video is a segment from the video in the back office of 540 jones street. in the video, you will see officers quickly open a back door into the building. mr. o'bannon quickly follows the officers.

>> following video was retrieved from surveillance cameras on the exterior of 540 jones street. the video shows the officers exiting the building, mr. o'bannon following them, and the subsequent officer-involved shooting. >> we will now play a slower video of the following video

twice, each time, showi.

>> the next video is from the body-worn camera of the officer who discharged his firearm. the video is from the point where sfpd officers are preparing to enter the offices where mr. o'bannon is located and ends following the officer-involved shooting.

[inaudible]

>> get someone in front of there. somebody in front of there. let's go. come this way. [inaudible] >> the following video still shows mr. o'bannon's hand in proximity to the firearm of the involved officer.

>> final video is from the body worn camera of a separate officer near the officer who discharged his firearm. it provides a different perspective of the officer involved shooting. the video is from where the officers are preparing to enter the office where mr. o'bannon is located and ends following the officer-involved shootin d

[inaudible] >> the last image is a video still of mr. o'bannon with the screwdriver. >> we will now show you a map of the area involved in these incidents. i mentioned there are three

incidents. one that occurred on the 600 block of post street in the 5:30 hour of tuesday, april 21. that's where the aggravated assault occurred. second, 540 jones street, where the officer-involved shooting occurred, and third, the image of glide memorial church on the map at 333 ellis. >> the photograph is of the board held by mr. o'bannon with what appears to be blood. the board measures 4'7" and was recovered at 540 jones street.

that will conclude my presentation. >> thank you, commander. my name is karl fabry, and i'm the commander at the tenderloin station. over the years, i've grown to trust the relationships between the tenderloin community and the officers at our station. we understand the trust built between us and the community has to be built and maintained

over years and not when suddenly thrust into crisis. i'd like to acknowledge the staff at glide. on a day when they were expected to provide meals and services for hundreds, if not thousands, of people, they suddenly found themselves in the middle of a critical incident. because of our established trust between our department and glide, we were able to quickly meet with key staff members who provided us with invaluable information regarding the layout and access to the building. i'd like to thank the staff at mercy housing, which is directly across the street from glide. they allowed us to use their

community room so officers could rest, get water, and take short breaks as this incident unfolded over many hours. i would like to thank the sfpd tactical unit and crisis negotiators whose training and expertise was truly put to the test on the day of this incident. finally, i would like to thank officer jordan townsend. officer townsend and his partner's full-time assignment at the tenderloin station is working with those on the street, steering them toward resources, offering advice, showing compassion, and providing support in any way they can. i look forward to building on the relationship and trust our officers and community value so much in the tenderloin. chief scott?

>> first, i'd like to thank all of our viewers for joining us tonight. we now as time for public comment. as you see the call-in number on the screen, and at the conclusion of tonight's town hall, all information will be available on the san francisco police department website. thank you.

>> operator: you have two questions remaining. >> caller: you have two minutes starting now. >> caller: hi. i'm jennie faye, and i'm the director of the league of women voters for san francisco. having the police commission absent during an officer-involved shooting is not acceptable. we urge that the city allow the police commission to hold public meetings as it is the body dedicated to oversight and discipline to ensure equitable public safety. the league believes a democratic government requires that governmental bodies protect citizens' right to now

by giving adequate notice of proposed action, holding public meetings, and making public records accessible. thank you. >> caller: thank you. >> operator: you have zero questions remaining. >> caller: to get into the queue for public comment, please dial one-zero.

>> operator: you have one question remaining. >> so to the administration and chief scott, i've been listening to all of this meeting. and all you all know that you haven't met for a long time. now suddenly, when we see this video, we are very disturbed. why are we disturbed?

for the last seven weeks -- [inaudible] >> -- in our homes while i'm getting reports -- and the chief knows me pretty well -- i'm getting reports of assaults, and a lot of people traumatized. i took the muni twice, and both times i encountered people who are assaulting others. i had to get down from the muni bus. so i think we must stop ensuring that something like this -- this is not a is i a documentary. it doesn't prove anything. i have known police officers for over 45 years, i know what

i speak about -- >> caller: 30 seconds left. >> doing this in the middle of a pandemic is not the right thing to do. so chief scott, please look stop showing these types of videos. you just irritate distant san franciscans. thank you very much. >> caller: thank you. >> operator: you have zero questions remaining.

>> thank you. we will now conclude our virtual town hall. there are no other callers in the queue, and i'd like to thank our viewers for tuning in tonight. again, our mission with our town halls are to be transparent, to educate the public on our investigative processes, and to make sure that san franciscans have access to the police department to voice their concerns and comments. thank you, and please have a good evening, and stay safe.

>> good morning. the meet willing come to order. welcome to the thursday, june 4 meeting of the government audit and oversight committee. i'm supervisor gordon mar, the chair of this committee and joined by vice chair aaron peskin. committee member matt haney will be joining us shortly. [inaudible]. thank you for joining us, supervisor haney. and i want to thank this committee's clerk, john carroll, and also like to thank sfgov tv for staffing this remote meetingful mr. clerk, do you have any mouments?

-- announcements? >> yes, thank you, mr. chair. we are closed during the covid-19 health emergency. however, members will be participating in this meeting remotely to the same extent faz they were physically present in the shame better. this precaution is taken pursuant to the statewide stay at home order and all local state and federal orders, declarations and directives. committee members will attend the meeting through video conference and participate in the meetings to the same extent as if they were physically present. public comment will be available on both channel 26 and sfgovtv.org are streaming the number across the screen. each speaker will be allowed two minutes to speak. comments or opportunity to speak are available by calling 415-655-0001. after you've connected to the line, you will be asked to enter an access code.

that is 920536187. after you've entered the access code, press the pound symbol and then press the pound symbol again to connect to the meeting. once you are connected, you will hear the meeting discussions, but your microphone will be muted and it will be in listen mode only. when your item of interest comes up, dial star and then 9 to be added to the speaker line. best practices are to call from a quiet location, speak clearly and slowly and turn down your television or radio. alternative, you may submit public comments in either of the following ways. e-mail to me, my name is john carroll, i'm the clerk of the government audit and oversight committee. my e-mail address is john.carroll@sfgov.org. if you submit public comment via e-mail, it will be forwarded to the supervise source and will be included as

part of the official file. your written comments may also be sent by u.s. postal service to our office in city hall. the address is 1 dr. carlton b. goodlett place room 244 in san francisco, california, 49102 is the zip code. items today will appear on the supervisors agenda of june 4, 2020 unless otherwise stated. >> thank you, mr. clerk. can you please call item number one? >> agenda, item number 1 is an ordinance amending the planning and building codes to authorize the waiver of fees related to granting legal status to existing dwelling units constructed without required permits and extending the waiver through december 31, 2024. requiring annual rofrtses on the fee waiver program and making findings of consistency with the general plan a priority policy and findings of public convenience or necessity. under planning code section 302, members of the public who

wish to provide public comments in this ordinance shall once again call the public comment number. 415-655-0001 and the access code that is 920536187. press the pound symbol twice and then star and 9 to enter the queue to speak. and one last thing, mr. chair. i'm in receipt of a memo from your desk asking that this be agdized as a committee report. >> thank you again, mr. clerk. colleagues, i introduce this ordinance to reauthorize the planning and building inspection fee waivers for the unauthorized dwelling unit legalization program. now more than ever we need to focus on the preservation of housing and housing that both safe and habitable for workers and families in our city. in 2014, the city created a program to encourage homeowners with unauthorized dwelling units constructed without building permits to bring them out of the shadow. this slol voluntary program

requires homeowners to meet light safety conditions, making a habitable unit a legal part of the housing supply and has resulted in 169 units being legalized. in my district, there are many more potential opportunities to participate in this program. my constituents include many single-family homeowners with unauthorized dwelling units antethans loving in these units. this is an undesirable position for everyone involved and i heard from constituency requesting a solution. this ordinance will incentivize the establishment of safe and relatively affordable units to stabilize housing for the community. and was supported unanimously at the building inspection commission and planning economy. sing as we enter a period of greater housing instability, including declining incomes, potential foreclosures, installing of new construction, and increase predatory practices, we need to provide every additional tool to keep people in their homes. this includes supporting homeowners at risk to stabilize

themselves by bringing in a family member or generating rental income and for tenants who need safe housing to work and thrive in san francisco. in addition to authorizing the waiver of planning and building fees for permits to legalize u.d.u.s, the legislation also requires annual reports on the fee waiver program. and i have two amendments pertaining to reporting requirements to make at committee today. in the ordinance, d.b.i. would be required to provide annual reports on the legalization program. including the amount of fees waived, number of projects, the building tide and the nature of ownership. there is much needed information about applicants to inform future policies and expanding accessory dwelling unit housing in the city. i would like to amend to add that the department should additionally report on if there is a tenant in the unauthorized unit at the time the applicant

submitted the application for a permit to legalize. and also if there was a tenant in the unauthorized unit in the five years prior to submission of the permit application to legalize. without a housing inventory, we do not have adequate information about the tenancy of our housing stock. so, this would provide much needed information to understand how communities are living in my district and city-wide. the second amendment is to clarify that the department may determine how to collect information for their report which will include but not be limited to self-reporting by applicants. the amendment will clarify that the ordinance itself does not require excessive d.b.i. staff time and add nointion verify the applicant's self-reported information, such as the tenancy. and if an approximately cants owns multiple propertis in san francisco. so john murray from the department of. building inspection will provide a brief presentation on the unit legalization program.

followed by a b.l.a. report and staff from the planning department are also available to answer questions. i'd like to welcome john murray from d.b.i. >> thank you, supervisor. i'm john murray with the department of building inspection,, which as you know, is the agency responsible for overseeing building safety in san francisco. i'm joined by my colleague tom fesler who works in our technical services division. the proposed ordinance you are considering today renews the waiver of d.b.i. planned fees and legalization, the fee waiver went into effect 2015 and expires june 21 of this year. as you all know, san francisco is home to a great number of unpermitted dwelling units. estimates range from 30,000 to 40,000. i've seen 50,000 as well. although it's hard to get a concrete number. but what we do know is that

many of these units are not fully compliant with san francisco's building codes. we see things like wiring and plumbing, inadequate exiting or ventilation, caoelings that are too low and a variety of other code violations. the goal is legislation, as was mentioned before, is to provide an incentive to building rs to get those units legalized and up to code so that not only are they preserved as housing but they're safe and habitable for the residents. since the fee waiver program went into effect in 2015, we have issued 365 permits for the unit legalization and 169 unit legalizations have been completed. the average applicants saved about $4500 in building and planning fees combined. and the majority of those were in single family homes. as you mentioned as well, on february 19, the building

inspection commission voted unanimously to recommend approval of the proposed fee waiver. and with that, we are happy to answer any questions. >> thank you, mr. murray. let's go to the b.l.a.'s office to present the fiscal analysis on this item. ms. campbell? >> good morning, chair mar, members of the committee. if the proposed ordinance would continue an existing fee waiver of permit, building inspection and planing permit fees for the development of accessory dwelling units, based on information provided by the respective departments, we estimate that the reduction in permit fee revenues over the term -- extended term of the waiver would be about $1.8 million. and we consider a approval of the proposed ordinance to be a policy matter for the board. i'm available for any questions you may have.

before we go to public comment, do you have any questions? great. seeing none, let me go to public comment. are there any callers on the line? >> thank you, mr. khaifrment operations is checking to see if there are any callers in the queue. operations, please let us know if there are any callers that are ready. if you've not already done so, press star and then 9 to be added to the queue to speak. for those already on hold, please continue to wait until the system indicates that your line has been unmaoutsed. do we have any speakers? >> operator: mr. chair, there are no callers wishing to speak. >> great. thank you, operations. colleague, i would like to move

to accept the amendment. [roll call] mr. chair, there are three ayes. >> thank you so much. and i would like to move that we send this item as amended as a committee report to the tuesday, june 9 meeting of the board of supervisors. mr. clerk, please call roll. >> on the motion that the ordinance be recommended to next tuesday's board meeting -- [roll call] the amendment passes.

>> please call item 2 through seven for closed session. >> they are settlements of lawsuits against the county pursuant to california code of civil procedures section 998. members of public who wish to provide public comment on this ordinance should call the public comment number, 415-655-0001 and enter the access code 920536187. press the pound symbol twice and then press star and 9 to enter the queue to speak. >> thank you, mr. clerk. let's open up public comment for the closed session. members of the public -- so mr. clerk, can you please -- >> happy to do it, mr. chair. operations will check to see if there are any callers in the queue. operations, please let us know if there are any callers that are ready. if you have not already done so, press star and then 9 to be added to the queue to speak and for those who may already be on

hold, please continue to wait until the system indicates that your line has been unmuted. do we have any callers for these items? >> operator: mr. chair, there are no callers wishing to speak. >> thank you. thank you, again, operations. i'm hearing no further callers. public comment is now closed. so on the motion to convene in closed session, mr. clerk, please call the roll. >> on a motion to sit and consider the litigation agenda in closed session -- [roll call] >> mr. chair, there are three ayes. >> thank you, mr. clerk. we will now convene in closed session. >> thank you, mr. chair. the members will now be leaving this meeting and they will connect with the closed session. after the closed session is

concluded, the members will reconnect to this meeting and a summary of the actions taken during the closed session will be reported. members of the public who are connected to this call may remain connected to this meeting and await our return. thank you very much. >> we're now back in session. thank you everyone for your pa*i,. will you please report on the deliberations in closed session? >> yes, mr. chair. the committee took the following actions. agenda items two, three, four, six and seven, the committee acted unanimously to recommend each of those ordinances to the board of supervisors. for agenda item number five, chair mar was excused via a

unanimous vote and the remaining members recommended that ordinance as well to the board of supervisors for consideration on june 16. >> thank you, mr. clerk. i believe we need to make a motion to not -- to disclose the closed session discussions. >> so moved. >> please call the order -- >> on the motion from vice chair peskin to not disclose [roll call] mr. chair, there are three ayes. >> thank you. mr. clerk, any further business? >> there is no further business. >> thank you. we are adjourned.

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>> the items before us today were recess from the june 2, 2020, board meeting. will you please call the roll. [roll call].

[roll call] supervisor safai? i will come back. [roll call]. supervisor yee is present and supervisor safai? mr. president, you have a quorum. >> thank you very much. please place your right hand over your heart. will you please join me in reciting the pledge of allegiance. [reciting pledge of allegiance].

>> okay. thank you. on behalf of the board i would like to acknowledge sfgtv for recording each of our meetings and make the transcripts available to the public online. >> mr. president, i have two communications. the minutes will reflect that since covid-19 pandemic the board of supervisors have been conducting their meetings through video conference, and present as if they were in their chamber. around 9:23 this morning my office received a proclamation from the mayor terminating the local emergency issued on may 31, 2020, and the curfew order is terminated effective immediately. that is directly has significant r ramification on the motions that are before this body. because the board recessed

tuesday's meeting for the two items just mentioned, the board is reconvening in order to take actions on these two motions that were introduced by president yee and to formally adjourn the meeting. public comment was satisfied on tuesday. if the members of the public, if you are interested in following along, you can watch channel 26 or watch the internet by going to our website at sfgov.org. if you want to listen by phone, you're welcome to call 415-655-0001 and enter the access code 1458162064, press pound twice, and you will be able to listen to the meeting with your cellphone. mr. president, we do have a communication from supervisor walton asking if he could be excused from the board meeting

today. >> thank you, madam clerk. just one point of clarification. would we have to take general public comments at the end of the meeting? >> no, mr. president. this is a recessed meeting, and the public comment actually occurred on tuesday afternoon. >> thank you for the clarification. >> you're welcome. >> before we get started, just a friendly reminder for all the supervisors to mute their microphones when you are not speaking to avoid audio feedback. can i have a motion to excuse supervisor walton for attending today's meeting [indiscernible]. >> so moved. >> motion. >> so moved by supervisor peskin and seconded by supervisor preston. >> yes. >> i'm here. sorry, i'm late.

>> thanks. >> we will mark you down as late. >> mark him down as inappropriately dressed. >> oh, look who's talking. >> and inappropriately in the wrong office. okay, let's have a roll call on that. [roll call]. [roll call]. >> there are ten ayes.

>> okay, this motion passes. supervisor walton? >> madam clerk, let's go to our unfinished business. please return to items 1 and 2 together. >> okay. item no. 1 is a motion to concur on the may 31, 2020 proclamation by mayor london breed declaring the existence of a local emergency related to the conditions of extreme -- soth safety of persons and property, and item two was a motion concurring in the mayor's action to establish the current view to leave the state of emergency in place. >> colleagues, as you know, the mayor has declared an end of the emergency and as of 5 a.m. this morning, i believe. and [indiscernible] i would like

to take advantage of some updates on what occurred last night. it was one of the larger demonstrations that we had had regarding the last week or so. it would be good for us to hear if there was any incidents that we should know about. and so i'm really glad that i was able to hear from chief scott from the police department, and also under-sheriff matthew freeman was here ls [indiscernible] is also here today to answer any questions on this item. maybe i could call on chief

scott at this point to maybe talk about what occurred last night and so forth. chief scott? >> thank you, president yee, and thank you members of the board to have me on again today to recap of what occurred last night. so i also want to start by thanking all of you for your support over the last week, and always. yesterday we had a demonstration that started out at 18th and dolores at about 3 p.m. we knew that this event was going to occur. it had been well publicized. we had heard from the sources of information that we had, we expected a very large attendance. we didn't know what exactly very large meant, but we knew that there would be a lot of response to this protest and this march

yesterday. at 3:00 people started to assemble, and the march went to basically mission police station. now as the day progressed, we don't have a -- we don't have an exact crowd size, but there were thousands of individuals. as president yee stated, it was probably one of the larger demonstrations that anybody could remember, and i'm sure probably everybody, like i did, saw the overhead news helicopter footage of the crowd size, which was significant. this demonstration, this president, by and large, people were there for the same issue that has been gripping our country over the past week or so following the death of mr. george floyd, and most of the protesters were there to demonstrate that issue. we also learned through feedback

and input from the community that many of the protesters were also there to actually protest the fact that the city and county of san francisco had a curfew. we understood there were a couple of dynamics, if not more, that were motivating people to be out there. our priority from the start was to facilitate -- activities of the protesters, to protect lives, as it always is, to protect property, to ensure that we had order in our town during the protest and make sure that we were there to address any civil unrest, if that occurred. i must say that by and large overwhelmingly it was uneventful. the protest did move to the civic center area. it also -- [indiscernible] put out as a protest and a walk through the streets of san francisco. at the end of all of this, when everything boils down, there

were protesters that went back to mission station, probably several hundred, to say the least, went back to mission station at the end of the protest to continue protesting. now all those protests were by and large peaceful. there were sporadic incidents of protesters throwing objects, bottles and rocks and the like, at the officers who were assigned to protect the protesters, and there was at least one instance of a vandalism of a vehicle that happened. there may be other reports, but that's what we know about right now. so by and large they were peaceful, very, very good-spirited crowd, very peaceful. and our officers were facilitators. we had our motorcycle officers and our patrol officers out

there and our command staff and our captains that were out there supervising and overseeing these protests. a couple of things i want to point out and i'm going to wrap this up for questions, our officers had on their personal protective equipment pretty much during the whole event, and just so the board and the public is aware as to why that was, we feel we are in the grip of a country that is very frustrated and angry. and what we have seen since the start of these protests, and each and every one of them, there is at least one point where an officer is assaulted either by an object being thrown at him or her or other types of assault. so we expected that to happen last night, and i did. so our officers had on the personal protective equipment, the helmets and the like to make sure that we keep our officers safe from harm's way. we know with the public that sends a certain image. you know, some people like to

call that equipment riot gear, but i want the public to understand the reason, the why behind why we came out with that equipment on. and for good reason. the other thing that i want to talk about is the curfew, because i know that was an issue. at the end of the event, around -- somewhere between 10 and 11:00, it culminated with less than 100 people out, and in that group, some of the individuals in that group began to dump garbage on the streets, and within that same group other individuals were trying to clean it up. that group actually splintered, and about half of that group went to dolores park and remained peaceful, and we let them do whatever they wanted to do, as long as they remained peaceful, we didn't bother them. the other half stayed in the street, in the area of 24 mission, or in that vicinity,

anyway. our officers during this course of the night observed what they believed to be protesters with -- in the possession of accelerants, lighter fluid or something of that nature. we don't know because we weren't able to make any arrest to confirm that, but that's what they observed. there were two fires previously during the night, one at the hall of justice where an american flag was burned and one where garbage was burned. so we already knew that somebody in that crowd had the propensity to light fires. at the end of the night, when this group boiled down to probably less than 30 -- it was less than 30, actually, we started to see the garbage being dumped in the street, and again, officers at the scene believe that there was an attempt to start fires. at that time, the incident commander or the person in charge of that particular scene decided to arrest those individuals, and those arrests were made. those arrests were made under

the curfew ordinance. out of those, 23 -- 26 people were detained, 23 were cited, and one was a juvenile. that juvenile was never handcuffed. that juvenile was released, was taken to a station and released to a responsible party, and the other 23 were cited and released. there were no uses of force during that part of the event. there was -- that part was once we made the decision to arrest, it was uneventful. but i want to reiterate the reason that that decision was made. it was because we believed that destruction and the danger of fires being lit was imminent, and the person in charge made the decision and failed to take that action. the captain is here with me. he was out in the field, seeing, hearing and feeling what was happening. i have him available if enough any questions for him. but at this point, i will turn the floor back over to the president for any questions that

you all may have of me. >> okay, thank you, chief scott. before we get into questions, i have received a few claegs on the roster -- colleagues on the roster. what i don't want to get lost is i really want to thank the organizers that put the rally, the demonstration together yesterday stressing that they wanted to have a peaceful demonstration, and not only was it -- for the most part what i saw was pretty peaceful. they were able to get 10,000 people to come to this. a lot of credit i want to give to whoever the youth organizers were. so just really want to get that -- don't want to have that get lost into our discussion. before i gety colleagues, i

guess, under-sheriff, did you have any comments? >> president yee, members of the board, chief scott, thank you for the opportunity to address you today. i am standing in for sheriff yamamoto who unfortunately was called away on a personal matter. the sheriff's office department operations center has been active for well over two months in response to the pandemic, and in recent days we have activated our emergency services unit, law enforcement mobile field force and response to the civil unrest and some act of civil disobedience occurring in the county and city of san francisco. last night the sheriff's department emergency services unit deployed in defence of san francisco city hall, the hall of justice, and in response to mutual aid from region two coordinator almeda county sheriff's office to support the oakland police department. i can tell you that the

demonstrations in oakland were very peaceful, and the platoon that we sent there, while they were put on lines, there was no use of force. the crowd was in very good order, very peaceful, and that platoon returned fully in tact, once again with no uses of force, no staff injuries, and a very peaceful demonstration. the platoon that was on the line in defence of city hall did a fantastic job in defence of the building. we encountered very minimal graffiti on the sidewalks surrounding city hall, and it's my understanding that that has already been cleaned up. unfortunately we did have a couple of unfortunate incidents. a sheriff's department unmarked police vehicle had an incendiary device thrown on it, and there was a fire. there was significant damage to the vehicle. an investigation is under way. i can tell you that that

incident occurred sometime before any protesters actually arrived at city hall, and an investigation is under way. a sheriff's department marked police vehicle was spray painted. the sheriff's department has made an arrest in that matter, and that arrest was made without incident. sheriff's department emergency unit also responded to the hall of justice in defence of the h.o.j. and worked very well in concert with the san francisco police department and district station captains in that area. we also had very good collaboration and coordination with the district station in the northern and the district station captain, as well as th mutual resources that were brought in out of county and requested through the police department. also encouraging was in response

to the defence of the hall of justice, non-members of the emergency services unit deputy sheriffs from our courts, community programs and jail facilities were successful in deployment and taking up defensive positions of the h.o.j. the sheriff's department, other than the one arrest for the graffiti on our vehicle, that was the sole arrest. there was no uses of force last night, and although we -- although the crowds were very loud and very passionate, by and large it was peaceful and uneventful. thank you very much. >> thank you. do you have any comments at all? >> thank you, president yee. no, not at the time. >> all right. you have to make a comment.

just joking. let's turn to my colleagues now. supervisor haney, you're up first. >> thank you, president yee. thank you, chief and deputy sheriff or under-sheriff, for being here. you know, i just first want to also thank the youth organizers and the many thousands of protesters who were out yesterday. i was there and was just blown away by what was one of the more extraordinary and powerful demonstrations that i've ever seen or been a part of in san francisco. as you said, it was overwhelmingly peaceful. it was very strong and direct in the messaging, and defence absolutely youth led. i think it also demonstrated very clearly why exactly the curfew needed to be lifted and why curfews themselves are ineffective and even dangerous ways to limit peaceful protest and free speech. i know that many people were terrified as 8:00 got closer and

there were still thousands of people out on the streets. it is just very concerning to think that the law would have allowed us to arrest people just for being out there at that time when obviously this is something that we should be promoting. this is something we should be supporting. and i appreciate you, chief, sharing from your experience what happened last night. i do think, president, respectfully that it is important to hear from others as well. and i would respectfully ask that we open up for public comment and hear from people about the experience yesterday and more about their perspective on the curfew. i think it's important that based on what i saw and what i heard from people who were out there, that they have an opportunity to share with us. it is important that we hear from our police chief. it's equally if not more important that we hear from the

people of the city. i would make that request, and i have a few questions for the chief, but i don't know if you want to wait to respond to that, president. >> well, i can respond right now. if there's no objection, i'll open it up. i ask my colleagues, is there any objections? okay, then i will do so when it's appropriate, okay? >> thank you. appreciate that. i wanted to ask just a couple questions, chief. one is about what seemed to be based on the reports that i saw and heard, and i think it was a part of the incident that you mentioned, a journalist, a well-known journalist in san francisco who was at least detained and maybe even threatened in other ways, threatened with arrest. can you speak to that particular

incident? and in general the commitment that i hope you can give to protect the rights of journalists, you know, journalists who are unable to -- whether it's during a curfew or not, be out reporting on things that are happening is one of the most critical rights that we have in this country, and when we start detaining or arresting journalists, that goes into the realm of authoritarian police states. i'd love to hear your policies on that and how we can make sure that something like that does not happen again. >> sure. chief? >> thank you, president. and supervisor haney, yes, thank you. so during that last portion, there was a journalist among the crowd, and he was detained briefly, probably for about 20 minutes. i can tell you this. to your question about a policy,

journalists have a right to be anywhere else that the public has a right to be. and of course nobody's excluded from committing a crime, but in terms of curfew, our department bulletin or our department notice laying out the curfew policies and the guidelines, journalists are excluded from curfew enforcement. so i hope that answers the first part of your question. in the event a journalist is detained, the course of action is to confirm that the person is a journalist and release them if no crime has been committed. in this case last night, there was a lot of things going on, and as soon as that person was confirmed to be a journalist, that person was released. so there are some things that, looking at this critically, that we need to do better. i mean, in a tactical situation,

there is a lot going on, and there are things that when officers are on the line they have to make a split-second decision as to how to most safely do what they're doing. because with journalists, it's complicated, to be quite frank with you. one of the things that i hope to do moving forward, i know you've already started this process, is to keep the dialogue open with members of the media so we can understand how best to work with each other to keep each other safe. when you have your focus on a situation that you believe to be a dangerous situation or an individual that you are attempting to detain or arrest, you can be distracted from that. i hope everyone listening to this understands that. first and foremost our objective is to keep people safe. we have to do that within the first amendment rights of

journalists. i totally understand that, but i think there's some room for dialogue on this so we can work with members of the media on these type of situations so we can at least advise what would be helpful to have less of these situations occurring. i have been watching the news, just like most everybody else, and this has been occurring in a lot of places. and it's complicated because there's a lot of chaos out there during these situations where you have protests, particularly when they turn violent. i am making no excuses. one of the things to do better is really communicate and dialogue with journalists and hopefully have some common ground on how we can work together to keep them safe, keep the public safe and keep the officers safe. just imagine this, if you have in front of you a person that you believe to be involved in whatever activity you believe them to be involved in and you have to address that situation, the last thing you want is

somebody right behind you who, journalist or not, it's a distraction. and that's something that i want to put on everybody's mind, that it's very difficult sometimes when you're in that situation. it's very fluid. and again, no mistakes are excusable, but we can work through these things and make sure that we have some understanding. i think a lot of that is sitting down with the journalists. we have already begun to do that, and have some understanding about how we can work together in these situations. >> thank you, i appreciate that. it does seem like when a journalist identifies themselves that that should be respected and treated accordingly to the rules at that point in terms of their ability to be there. but it sounds like you are working on how best to do that and make it clear. >> absolutely.

thank you. and absolutely when the journalist identifies themselves what i know at this point is at that point things could have been done a little bit more smoothly as far as what the expectations are to keep everybody safe.

>> there are no numbers i have for you and we're tracking all of that. including the state has a responsible providing the additional support of tracking net but, we are logging the hours that officers are here and working in our city and we're tracking and it's going to be

very difficult to separate what is currentl currency related ans not. it's canceled for the event and enforcement is part of that and the majority, the va majority of has been during situations where violence is occurring or very imminently about to occur. so we can definitely track that in terms of how we use the curfew violations to prevent further violence or prevent violence from occurring because those incidents are very separate and they're well documents. how much of this is being paid for and any of it paid for by the state. you have an estimate on how much this is going to cost or will cost the city and county of san francisco. >> thank you, supervisor. we do not yet have a costing for

the overtime requirements and i way mutual aid works typically it is covered by the home department and then the state will reimburse them through fema or some other way so at this point i did not expect our city to do the cost of the mutual aid officers and we will get back to you with an answer of the overtime and the like. >> ok. i'll let others. thank you. >> thank you, president yee. i just wanted to commend the organizers of yesterday's protest and it was really one of the most beautiful protest i've attended in san francisco. i have to say i was just in awe of the fact that every single

person, i did not see one person who wasn't wearing a mask. for that many people to be in this street and have that perfect compliance health order is truly nothing short of extraordinary and so, i again, just want to say that my spirits have been so lifted by our youth who are leading the way during than this major term oil and also oortunio change policing and tactics in the city and country. to scott, you and i had an opportunity to speak a few minutes ago and i had left a message for the captain. i was able to talk to julie an marks this morning, the journalist who was detained by the police and told a very different story than the one we heard. i've been texting back and fourth with him and he is going to call into public comment.

i won't speak for him i'll let him speak for himself. i too was really concerned about the way in which mr. mark was treated. he was wearing his police-issued journalist badge, very prominently and was, according to him, shoved by a police officer into the crowd of protestors that were surrounded and so he was unable to exit or to leave. and, that of course is very concerning to us. i just wanted to make that point and then i look forward from him directly when he calls in. thank you so much. >> thank you.

>> i was going to invoke the matter but superviso supervisory asked enough questions so i have no questions. >> most of my questions were asked and answered, thank you to my colleagues. i too was out there yesterday and absolutely inspired by the activism. i was also impressed at the incredible compliance with the mask order. i didn't seem people oust thousands not wearing a mask and it was incredible. i did have one question, just around the decision-making process yesterday for the chief. specifically, curious why the curfew order was not lifted

yesterday before the large protest that was planned. that obviously was a decision, i understand there are a lot of moving parts and different jurisdictions handled that differently but we learned earlier in the day, by tweet from the mayor, that there was a plan to lift the curfew which was welcome news to many of us on the board and certainly to many activists but obviously a decision was made somewhere along the way to leave it in place. in contrast, for example, in seattle, where they were facing a similar situation where they actually lifted the curfew entering into the evening hours. if you can just address the thinking why it was not lifted yesterday. >> yes, thank you supervisor preston. the thinking on the curfew yesterday as far as my recommendations, and let me start by saying i also want to thank you for organizing this

protest. it gets to the point of what we hope would happen but weren't sure. it was a peaceful protest. because of their organization and their spirit, we had a peaceful protest. this time yesterday, we had no idea what we were going to have. what we did know is that we were going to have a lot of people. what we also did know was that there were hateful messages circulating in social media about other people who were intending to come and do harm. we don't broadcast those things. when we know about them because we don't want to. >> unless there's a public safety reasons where we have to. what i need the group to understand is sometimes there are things we know that for good reason, we can't put out in public. number one, to panic people and secondly because we need to vet these things out before we act

on them. there are a lot of things out there in the social media world that were alarming. we didn't know or don't know what is real and what's not real and what is going to be acted on and what's not acted out on. so getting to the curfew answer, i believe in my professional opinion, that having that curfew tool, in the event that some of the things that we were hearing about came to fruition, gave us the ability to keep order to keep people safe. as what didn't get discussed on tuesday, every day we have had discussions about how long this things should go. what do we know? what we don't know. what do we not know. this is a very thoughtful process. now, after than this event, it was sort of a liteness test for us. we didn't enforce on eve was actually over and weelieve there was a criminal activity that would damage supervisor

ronen's district. it was sil a good tool last night because there were no fires set and no one had property damage from that and i strongly believe it was the right decision to make, given all the debate about the first amendment activities. i understand it. but that's what went into the thinking. now we have a much better, in any opinion, a much better track record to say yeah, we had our liteness test and we believe these things can happen peacefully. if we get information that indicates otherwise, we'll be the first to try to put in measures for those bad things not to happen. you have to take this situation into tally how this trance wires. last night we did get a really good outcome and there were things on our radar that none of you were aware of and it's something that happens in policing and law enforcement and it's always going to happen.

i would hope that you would trust your police department to be responsible when we have information that we might not be able to put out for various reasons and we need to be taking precaution and that goes into our decision-making. and my decision-making. >> thank you chief scott and just a comment. i don't want to lose sight. it's an extraordinary exercise of power to impose curfew. i think everyday matters. certainly we're pleased it has been lifted and i want to recognize that i think it's important that whoever, whether the mayor, yourself, and others put your heads together and made the determination to lift the curfew, that's appreciated and was appropriate.

i don't want to lose sight of recognizes some of the considerations you've raised but i'm very concerned that we had dozens of arrests of my understanding folks who sold illegal activities was being out and protesting that that is concerning. i share the concern around the journalists who was detained and i also want to note that were many likely people that did not attend and if they did attend did not say because of the curfew. so, while we are all, i think celebrating, the extent of participation in this, i think we also need to recognize that the curfew does in fact discourage people from going out and exercising the rights, particularly folks who did not want to risk arrest. i just don't want that to get

lost and thank you for being here and answering our questions, i appreciate it. >> thank you, very much, supervisor preston and thank you for your comments. >> thank you, very much. madam clerk, do i need to rescind closing the public comments at this point? >> thank you. the board of supervisors has already closed public comment. typically, when you close public comment, you are able to reopen public comment at the same meeting or at recessed meetings. however, when you continue these items to the recessed meeting you did not include public comment. we put a blurb on the agenda stating ta public comment had been satisfied. at the very least, the board should take an affirmative vote to reopen public comment.

>> can i have a motion to -- >> it's not. i just want to make one more comment. some may say that you may even want to request public comment and continue that public comment for another day. there were individuals who might have seen the blurb on the agenda and would have wanted to call in today but may not because they saw the blurb on the agenda that that is my other concern. >> i'd like to have a motion to open up public comment again. second part of it, madam clerk, is to continue the public comment to our next meeting. >> fur aking on these items today, the need for that public comment goes away. the need doesn't ever go way on these issues but for these two

items. perhaps there is another -- perhaps it can be satisfied today. >> i think it's ok. i'll make a motion and leave it at that because at our next meeting we'll have public comment anyway. they can comment on the protest. i think that's the main comments that we're going to hear today and probably a less about these items. >> we want to preserve everybody's rights. >> i understand. i appreciate it. supervisor haney, would you like to make a motion. >> to reopen public comment. >> is from there a second. >> know >> the motion to reopen public

comment -- [roll call] >> there are 10 ayes. >> ok, so motion passes to reopen the public comment. before we get to the public comment, i want to make sure that the public understands what the parameter for this it's not to -- this is not general public

comment. we have two things so it should be related to the emergency order or the curfew or yes, i will just leave it at that. we're not talking about other things. ok. madam clerk, can we see if anybody is actually on there. >> i'd like to provide the telephone number. folks have my staff at sfgovtv have changed the slides on the website in addition to channel 26 to have the telephone numbers scrawl across the sing. 655-0001 and when prompted enter the access code (145)816-2064.

press pound twice to get into the cue dial star and nine. do we have anyone waiting in the cue? >> yes i have a number of callers. i will cue the first caller. >> great. thank you. >> welcome caller, you have to two minutes. esident of district nine and i'm just calling to share how disappointed i am that the six supervisors who failed to act to end the curfew on tuesday, when you had the opportunity to, spouting at times and and fear for quote and simultaneously acting within your power and enacting to deprive of us. your constituents are keeping

tabs of your actions more than ever. as a new political consciousness is arising in your districts and come november, those of you hoping to be re-elected in odd number districts will be held accountable for your inaction to protect the rights of your most disadvantages and marginalized constituents and certain views and the police chiefs had neither the face nor the trust in your citizens to protest to take care of our cities and ourselves. how out of touch you all are with brown and black communities and especially the use of the city and we wish you would show as much care of lives of state sponsored black bodies and decimated and communities and as you do about spraypainted buildings and knocked over trash cans. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> hello. welcome caller.

you have up to two minutes. my name is julie an mark i'm the reporter with mission local that the board has been talking about. thank you board. thank you supervisors for having me and thank you chief scott for hearing me out. to be honest, i never thought i would be a public commenter and i'm a little nervous and terrified right now. i just wanted to give a quick account of what happened and i do think that my rights were violated quite a bit. the day ended without incident and the sfpd did a fantastic job of letting the protestors protest, which i thought was extremely impressive and i saw a large, large number of officers, dozens of officers marching down mission street towards a few protestors that to me did not seem to be a threat to property or anybody else. i did not see what they were doing before.

from the looks of things, they did not look like criminals. when i went down to take the video and i don't have officers that had my press badge. i held it up in front of officers letting them know what i had and it had your signature, chief, on it and so i think there was no it was unequivocal and not only were right and also my fourth amendment rights as you did and suspicion that it was because i was i journalist. i want to say thank you for in inviting for some of the body and i was not trying to get out of the way and at least twice into that protester area and it was a bit terrifying. i want to -- really this is not about me and i reel just want to

say that it was important that i was there. i think it was important to show what was happening, especially to just a handful of college-age protestors. i just want to also ask a question that supervisors should ask. what happened to those people? and that's really all i have to say. >> supervisor yee, can i ask a clarifying question? >> i'm sorry, was that supervisor ronen? >> yes. >> are you still there? >> yes, i am. >> i was wondering if you could clarify what you heard and saw of the protestors around you? >> yes, so, really, i believe that i was on the ground for 30

to 35 minutes with them. just looking back at the time stamps of my tweets. the entire time they were begging to go home. they wanted to go home. they were scared. they were crying out to officers who were, you know, just, i mean, there were just so many. it seemed like the. >> did the officers respond when the people screamed to go just go home? there was a gentleman up and about trying to convince the officers to let them go but he

was i believe the captain was there to hear that. >> were you ordered to the ground? >> it was -- i was -- i can't say there was a definitive order and i wasn't particularly threatened or told under the sort of the threat of forced to get belly down. in fact, i did at certain points get up to be able to write my messages and report. there was an officer who was pointing, actively pointing a tear gas begun at us at a certain point and for what reason it was, i'm not sure. >> and how do you know it was a tear gas gun? >> i don't know it was a tear gas gun. it looked like a tear gas gun. did did not like like a firearm

that would shoot bullets. >> were the other protests ordered to lay on the ground? >> i don't remember the order but that -- it seems like that is exactly what i apologize i don't remember and. was anyone on handcuffs. they were tied as they were taken away. do any of my other colleagues. >> -- supervisor peskin. thank you. >> i am done. >> go ahead.

>> thank you, president yee and thank you supervisor ronen for that question. one of the things i was going to bring up earlier and i'll bring up again, because the journalist that just spoke actually said that he had of a press badge that had been signed by chief scott. i don't know how many of you on the board a few years ago when i had hearings and introduced legislation that the department actually opposed -- david stevenson was the p.i.o. or governmental affairs person at the time were in the department was not issuing press certifications for a long period of time. i'd like to get clarification, chief scott, are you now back in the business of issuing press badges? is that what i've just come to understand?

>> supervisor peskin, to answer your question, the protocol was revamped during that time and there's some loopholes tight end up and the press pass protocols so the renewals have never stopped. when a person has a press pass, they have to get renewals -- periodically so the renewals have never stopped. if a person has a press pass, it's been our practise if they've had one in the past, to grandfather in. some people who had them in the past would not qualify currently for the press pass but the renewal never stopped so there's a process for renewals. i don't know how long he had his press pass. that goes through the p.i.o. office and basically they're

stamped with my signature stamp if it's renewed and i hope that answers your question. >> not to go into a different realm of policy but i'll circle why i'm asking this question. you are saying that you do not, as a matter of policy, issue press bangs t bangs badges but o people who existed before your tenure as chief, is that correct? >> let me clarify. i have not signed a press pass, a new application in the three plus years i've been here but i will claw fie in clarify. i have not personally signed one. i know we have revamped the procedures. the renewals have had it happen. the director in charge of the press office has the authority to make those renewals because

they vet the press information. i have not signed a new president pass in the three years that i've been here. i will clarify that and second it and i will let president yee know when i have tha that information for you. >> mr. mark, when did you obtain your press badge? >> i can't tell you exactly when but it was in 2019. >> so you were issued a press badge that has the stamp of the police of chief and you did not have a press badge prior to that, is that correct? >> i believe that is the case, i believe i first obtained a sfpd authorized press badge in the year 2019. >> thank you, mr. mark. chief scott, through the president, what training do you give your officers relative to members of the press who have or claim to have press credentials

in the city and county of san francisco relative to their handling in this or any other situation? >> supervisor, there's a department

>> there's an informational sheet we pass out to the news media and this information is shared with our department on what other press pass, who qualifies for a press pass, how to complete the application and renewing. so this information is both internally shared and externally shared. i hope that answers your questions. i believe he does not know about the situation and with mr. stevenson and the year 2016 where you stopped issuing press passes and all the direction that you indicate a earlier i believe was correct and there may have been some reversal at that policy and it was deeply troubling tempt and i attempted to legislate over those practises in your department and

your department previously to your tenure was highly resistant to those changes and i think particularly in light of this and the case, it's time to sit down and figure out rules to the road not only around the issuance of press passes to the president core of san francisco and the issue of the time was whether bloggers were or not legitimate members of the press and as well as how the as well e the large scale situations over the next couple days and other situations including but not limited to what we saw in around brian carbon monoxide on deso i look forward to working with you personally and mr. doors see personally and my staff to crack legislation moving forward but as i said on tuesday, this

entire curfew relative to the first and fourth amendments of the united states constitutions has been very difficult for all of us so i would like to work with you and your colleagues and my staff to figure out how the sfpd deals with the president appropriately going forward that concludes my questions and remarks. >> ok. then moving onto the next speaker. is there another caller in the cue. you have up to two minutes. >> i'm concerned about chief scott's characterization earlier of 60 cops rounding up a dozen kids as a practical situation. it was only a tatical situation because you made it one. you couldn't let them go home. going home is one of the

activities that was allowed by the curfew. these kids were going home. as they said earlier they needed to go home. y'all could have let them go home. put them in a squad car if you think it's a threat. this curfew was for public safety. who is safe? two ambulances got called out to the scene. why they safer for being subjected to this? we really need to reexamine future use of acre fuse if our interest is public safety. thank you. >> thank you. mr. speaker. hello, my name is seem on and i am so disappointed with the board of supervisors today. i went to the protest yesterday and they were peaceful and probably hundreds of cops outside the mission police station right here and not a single thing was thrown at them the national guard was at city

hall along with the it's people calling them to be held account and murdering and jessica williams, alex and mario woods and say their names and the sfpd retaliate against the young people high schoolers who organized the protest. police chief scott and we are protesting you because we don't trust you. the sfpd waited to a group isolated that forced them to lay on their stomach for an hour and interrupted them for unlawful assembly which we saw on video on twitter even though they were going home. going home was exempt under the curfew. chief scott said there was a tactical situation and there was live video and nothing going on besides sfpd intimidating people. we told you, board of supervisors, we told you and you didn't listen. this board was too chicken shit to take a vote. what is that?

supervisor fewer, save your tears about quote-unquote civil liberties because you don't have an idea of what you are talking about and my own -- >> that's enough. cut him off. >> next. hello. >> hello. my name is career a and i'm 27-years-old and i live in the mission district in district nine. i represented by hilary own an. her cues have been used time and time again over the course of history to silence the versus in the civil rights movements from missouri, rodney sing and the days of martin euther king junior. we deserve acknowledge through a commitment to panning curfew so long as the fight for justice continues indefinitely. we want accountability for all arrests for violating this racist curfew and the protests that have been targeted by

police to be released. we wanted a ban and excessive use of force and no rubber bullets and no tear gas in a global pandemic effecting black people. it has also come to my attention that the san francisco sheriff deputies in riot gear held a line at city hall. some wearing thin, blue-line pins. a symbol used by white nationalist groups to stand in suppose sort of police and opposition to the black lives matter movement so they were banned by sfpd police when they were used in may. i'm demanding an investigation into the heinous acts and i'm calling on you to push for the firing and punishment of all officers wearing this badge of hatred for people pushing for justice and equity for all. in response to the journalist being detained in their rights being so blatantly violated. if this mistake is soen excuse able, where is the accountability for the officers that made this mistake. sfpd will you fire them? if the job is being a cop is so

difficult and confusing for you, maybe we should get other people who can do their jobs. thank you. >> next speaker. >> >> hi, my name is tyler i'm a resident in district 6. there's a couple things i want to bring up. at the sit-in -- there was a sit-in tuesday night after the board decided to continue this item. i would be good for the board to take some time and discuss what happened there and maybe ask the chief questions about that as well. i heard some rumours going around as far as that that there was a community roarer who was detained or maybe was about to be detained. so if we're going to be concerned about detaining journalists, which of course we should be concerned about, i think there should be some discussion of that as well. it may be that's just a rumour

but we should find out. also, i appreciate supervisor haney's questions about the cost of all of this but the facts in that moment if the captain calls for 60 copps, 100 cops, how many there were, i don't know, they came and the question that the cops will be sorted out later and i just wish that we could have that same energy when this board requires for people who are sleeping out on the streets to be put into hotels that we can find the staffing and the resource that's we need to make that happen and worry about the cops later instead of our mayor saying it's not rel is tick to o do that. i saw on twitter, not a journalist but someone trying to record during the cattling and arrest or a little bit before the arrest last night. two cops told him to get back and then started telling him to run away from the scene and kept chasing him and threatening him

with arrest so he turned the corner sew couldn't get video and so -- i don't know if there's a chance for the supervisors to watch that video but i hope that you will go on twitter and try to find it and look into that as well. this curfew has just given the police so much more power and so much more discretion to enforce it or not enforce it, however they chose and i don't think it's making us any safer. all of the things that are crimes like looting and vanda vandalism -- >> hi, my name is adam and i'm a resident of district 6. i was at the protest yesterday. they were peaceful. i understand where the chief was coming from talking about the alt-right threat on instagram. the cops do have to be aware.

you have to understand what the protest world is about is the police being over milltarized. the police were much more restrained at this protest but they refuse to engage. the crowd and the mission loved it when officers took a knee but the vast majority were just silent and just ignored the crowd. it's my hope those officers who did engage don't face any backlash from within the department for doing so. i am very concerned that the chief's story does not mesh entirely with what the reporter said. nor does it mesh with the videos that were made by some of the students as well as the reporter published online and the previous speaker, i saw the same video of the police charging the citizen who was trying to record this massive event that was going on and the accountability is the big thing. oakland handled this protest way, way better than san francisco did. ultimately, all of this adds up and the illustration is we have

different perspectives and the problem is a lack of communication. people just want to be heard. if the police, any of the police took the time to talk to people today, we're concerned about and engage with them understand what their concerns are. you wouldn't see these escalations and you don't need 60 officers literally running down the streets from both sides to corral a group of a dozen or 15 people. it's not so much that we don't want police protection, we want police to be part of the community and we want police to be to protect and serve not to rule over the community with an iron fist. last, just to wrap it up, i would say don't worry about accountability, at work, accountability and transparency happens. it's ok to admit we made a mistake. >> thank you. next speaker. and madam clerk g, go ahead and

call the next speaker. >> hi. so, i wanted to ask how does this feel for to tell you and teach you right from wrong and how will you help reach justice for those who female victim to police brutality and public racism? how will sfpd make a difference for our people and help the people reach our goals. you guys have sworn to protect the people, correct? this curfew isn't doing anything. it's just preventing our rights. for those in the police department who say they support us and stand with us and do something, be here, leave the field, and tell it again because we treat people like people and remember that how people are innocent until proven guilty no

matter their racial background or ethnicity. >> hi, my name is alexandra and -- hold on for just one second. i imagine you both are on the same phone call so let me turn off her two minutes and restart the clock for two minutes for you. are you ready. >> thank you. >> again your comments. here we go. >> go ahead. >> thank you. there was much anxiety and feelings of doom to stay after 8:00 p.m. and i'm proud of us. less than half of us that decided to stay. yesterday changed my life forever. i hope my future children won't have to endure what our people of colour have endured for so long. i'm in a multi cultural sorr soy and the youngest children was an 8-year-old girl named ary an. she was only eight-years-old when she was shot dead in the head while sleeping in her own

home. they through a grenade and realised her uncle was up stairs. their supervisor even said that they did it wrong and it was just really shocking to realise this so i really want to know what, how will you make sure our officers will not be trigger happy nor racist. this needs to stop. and it needs to come from our home too. i'm only 23-years-old and i live in front of san francisco state. i am supposed to be graduating this semester but i want to make sure my future children know that even going past curfew, if it's something that we need to do we will do it and you see saw that last night. honestly, i agree with the previous caller. asking us questions how we are doing, i don't think you guys want to really see the solutions face-to-face.

i didn't see any officers talk to us. and i'm sure they were told not to. i'm also an ex officer from when i was much younger but i'm not anymore and it's really important for us to have a future where our children will have to protest anymore for this because hopefully it will be over soon so it's not going to be over without a fight and you've seen those peaceful protests last night. >> thank you for your comments. >> next caller, please. welcome, caller. you have up to two minutes. >> hello. my name is sean and i'm a resident of d9 and i hope that all the supervisors that were in favour of leaving the curfew in place are ashamed of themselves. they were sold by chief scott who admitted it hadn't been necessary the past few nights and only wanted in place because he didn't know what might happen the next night which ishee every single night and that's how time works.

last night we saw a group of a dozen students heading home from a peaceful protest surrounded by several dozen cops who made them lay on the sidewalk and wait until they decided it was time to arrest them. how does wasting the time of dozens of police officers who arrest students keep us safe? if there's a fear of loot being, why are we wasting time harassing and terrorizing civically involved students instead of, i don't know, watching for looting? i'm disappointed with sfpd's actions last night. in regards to detaining a journalist, chief scott claimed there was a lot going on. there was more than one is over per protestors and they couldn't handle having a single journalist standing up. it's ridiculous. if they're that terrified of being overwhelmed by a single journalist, maybe they should look for a new job. it's an attempt to interfere with peaceful protests and i would be disappointed if i see the board of supervisors allowing the mayor to curtain our rights in this matter ever

again. you have up to two minutes. welcome. >> yes, welcome. >> wonderful. thank you, i live in district 10 and i was at the protest yesterday and i think it was a beautiful turnout. i wanted to talk about the curfew and the police. i don't think there's discussion about the appropriate or inappropriate rules for curfew. it's a violation of our constitutional rights and that the board is even entertaining this conversation is embarrassing. it's authoritarian and order is only lost at the move in when the police and checked and the protestors didn't have tear gas or -- they didn't have any

weapons. if we do chose to believe that there was some legitimate threat on social media that chief scott was referring to, but he was unable to give his information to the public, this gives the police the right to always have the power to invoke a curfew. there can always be some unnamed threat on social media. on the matter of journalist the framing is incorrect and we shouldn't be concerned about a journalist being arrested. no one should be arrested at these events. also, if the police are in control of issuing so-called press passes, then does that not effectively give the police control as to who is or is not a legitimate journalist in the city. i've requested the need for such a system and if it does exist it should be a citizen board.

and one matter, one final martha raddatz omatteron the police. these protests are the violence the police have been committing in people in this country since existence. the police need to be demilitarized is effectively the solution. police should not have weapons, tear gas, old military gear or anything of the sorts. >> thank you for your comments. madam clerk. >> yes. >> hello. >> welcome. >> thank you. my name is brooke ashton and i'm an mta student at san francisco state university. i will stay as much on topic as it seems most of us have been staying on topic.

we are understanding that there's a deeper issue. first, i'd like to address chief scott. you explained to us to the personal protective gear that the police were wearing was just to protect themselves. i'd like to ask a rhetorical question, are you going to distribute this gear to all black and brown members of our society and our city and awful us for that matter? my point is, please don lose sight of what is really at issue here. you discuss police logistics but the underlying issues remains namely the problematic nature of the institution of the police. i reiterate some of my prior callers. we need to demill tar eyes the police. you talk about civil unrest. address the root of the civil unrest. the institution of the police and their racist and profiling tactics. also, police chief scott, you

keep talking about how your police get no days off and they're working overtime so you tell me you have fatigued officers with no days off out there in high-adrenaline situations within a framework of white supremacy? that is sounds terrifying to me. this is the issue, the institution of the police. i urge you to listen to black leadership and including the voices that spoke at the rally yesterday. there's plenty of policy out there to move forward. i direct you to movement for black lives that's just one of many, many voices that officer real solutions to move forward. thank you, very much. >> thank you for your comments. >> before the next speaker, i'll just state that we know there are five others in the cue and about 58 of you listening and if any of you want to speak just make sure that you dial star and 9 and that will get you into the cue to speak. can you send the next speaker

through. welcome caller, you have up to two minutes. >> caller: good afternoon supervisors and madam clerk. i have to say i'm heartbroken with our campaign right now but i'm using progressive majority specifically the ones who voted not to reject the curfew is your role at legislative branch to check our executive branch. i rewatched the item on this on tuesday meeting and hearing the chief justify after the fact that it was lifted was a great -- (inaudible). thank you, sir. if you concluded your comments, thank you. are there other members in the cue? please send them through.

welcome caller. you have up to two minutes. welcome, caller. >> caller: hello. >> hi there, welcome. >> you have to two minutes, sir. >> ok. first and foremost, i think we have to get one thing very clear, our san francisco police department and the board of supervisors must understand that the title of our law enforcement equals peace officers. now, we have to treat our youth and young adults with care.

it's part of our democracy. what happens here is your supervisors talk too much. they confuse us. and then the police chief and i wrote it in my blog and told him that he needs to spend more time in the office reviewing the protocols and allowing experience in this field. and it was shocking that our youth, our journalists, our -- i have a press card. i don't show it. i don't need to show it. because i know how to position myself. this is someone who doesn't know the role of the journalists, the

photo state and fundamentally understand our democratic rights, maybe they shouldn't be in the police force. and for that fellow for the supervisors i see you don't know the difference between a curfew and emergency. the right definition. you shouldn't be running for supervisors. that's all i've got to say. my heart is very heavy and i'm ashamed of you all. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> welcome, caller, you have up to two minutes. >> caller: hi, my name is hannah. i'm a resident of district 1, formally district 6. i first want to thank the countless black youth activist and protest tears have put so much time and energy into the fight for police abolition and yes, we do not need reform or more money pouring into the police department. we need to recognize the

fragility of what the police base their power on. without their milltarized equipment and supplies, they're powerless. they don't have the skills to solve issues within the community. we need social workers, mental health workers, we need to do more outreach to the homeless and thank you matt haney for being one of the few people in the city that cares about that issue. we need to learn how to talk to our neighbours. have empathy for those around us and instead of unpunishment. i am particularly disappointed until the taxes of london breed and i call you to demand she act better. we've seen her text messages and we know what she values and how she and the chief scott reform is not enough. we need to defund the police. as someone who has researched surveillance in data capitalism for years i want to raise concerns about the california highway police in particular. sfpd and the methods they're using to target protestors. according to california state law, local police and chp they're using we're supposed to

be their bosses in theory and instead there's been aerial surveillance and there's been data mining and they were targeting people using drones around the park yesterday according to the police scanner. i just, this oppression of freedom of speech is really concerning to me and i think you guys all need to step it up. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> welcome, caller. >> caller: hello, i'm a resident of district 1. i am a simple question for the board of supervisors. how many times does the testimony of the police and the police chief need to be proven false before we stop taking their words at face value and being used to justify a police state? they should take hours of testimony of victims of police violence and members of the public who have observed police behaviour. rather than someone's job that

justifying the behaviour (inaudible) on our streets. i'm done. >> thank you for your comments, sir. next speaker, please. welcome, you have up to two minutes. >> caller: hi. i'm actually one of the coordinators of the event yesterday, no justice no peace sf. we organized this event as completely safe, completely peaceful. we were here to speak our voices. i, alongside with sf youth, we organized this event to let people speak. and, we're really at a loss for words for how our peaceful protestors were treated yesterday. i myself was listening to the police scanner all night and i listened -- actually heard them talk about how they were going to encircle them and arrest for all a the assembly. it really just -- i was updating, we were updating the page but this is

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>> i don't think they're being effective as a tool for securing property as i've had my person vehicle nine times in three years i think they're a tool for political repression. when i gather with 15 of my friends in a park and listen to music, they have time to arrest us. but they don't have time to sort out the missing car or the rape equipment. they have time to beat us

merclessly and they have violent weapons but i don't think they have masks. i don't think telling people not to gather in the park, i don't think that's a healthy decision. i don't think what the police represent is healthy in our society. i think they're a system of repressurion and mass incarceration, criminally unjust at a reinforced local and federal level judicially. we can only look at varied cases, such as brown palotta. the subject of judicial reinforcement has been recited. this is criminally unjust and i

hope you know as you throw chemical weapons in the faces of your protesters, they might kill you with the same. >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> i would like to say that these organizers, i'm so glad that someone called and said something from no justice, no peace, sf because although you credit these organizers, you do not have the time to learn their names or their organization's names exthey arand they are doik for you, doing it well and you should listen to them regardless of age. i attended the protest exit was extremely peacely. the group i was with had to leave early to walk home in time

for fear of the curfew. while we were doing this, we were walking and came across a massive number, about 40, 50 police just sitting, they weren't doing anything. they were on their phones, but just the presence in shar sheer daylight was scarry. we asked them why they were here and they said spell, only to act on looting. and then to see what happened with the peaceful protest e proo were not looting, was just very disappointing and i hope you hold yourselves accountable. >> to the 57 listeners in the cue, if any of you want to get into the speaker's line, just a. right now we have eight individualsn the cue and can

you send the next speaker through, please. >> how often has a police officer been killed to people in this city. the police are afraid of their lives because the people are afraid of them. the police drive military

vehicles. at the protest two days ago, but i think it was on monday, police were flying down market street at lord knows how fast they were going and hanging on the side of these vehicles. the police should be walking in the naked neighborhoods in whicy live. if we're concerned with people committing crimes, why are we not concerned with the crimes happening? we should have the police working to do financial auditing, to uncover the economic crimes and un-justices

in this city. the police should be defund askefundedand that should be fud towards therapists and folks who help the homeless. the folks should be used to build homes, that's an idea, people who are homeless need homes. let's do that. >> thank you. >> thank you for your comments. >> next speaker, please welcome you have up to two minutes. >> hi, my name is sonya and i want to support the comments of the previous speaker about disarmament, in particular guns. it's not crazy, other places have done it and i'm sure you can look it up, just google disarming the police. i have a question in particular, though. there were sheriffs, san francisco sheriffs helping out to do curfew enforcement and protest suppression in oakland yesterday. and so how did that happen? does anybody here have an answer

for that? who made that decision and can the board of supervisors not make that decision any more? thanks. >> thank you for your comment. you have up to piano minutes tw.

>> there are low income communities and racial filing is one thing but the most dire problem is the excessive use of force and military-grade weapons on innocent tax-paying citizens. we must not ignore that the fact

that the investment in black communities is absolutely necessary to promote positive change in the eyes of the people. we need to educate police departments to uphold their policies. this uprising would not occur if corrupt cops were brought to justice. we must convict cops who commit murder, period. please protect the people over profits. thank you.

>> people walking to the store are harassed and arrested if they're brown and there should not have ever been the massive policing that cbc over the past few days. th.we have to come rely on these systems because we're afraid of racist things we're taught by the white supremests of this country and everyone who didn't vote to get rid of the curfew should be deeply ashamed and everyone should -- this is just

an absolutely abominable situation. i walked around my neighborhood today and saw way too many cops and 90% of them had masks around their chins and not covering their faces because they -- the homeless people who have no where else to go while they sweep them away while they have nowhere to go and paying for hotel rooms that they're not allowed to anyon and i'm ashamse white in san francisco right now. >> there are three more members of the public who are in line to speak and there are others who are listening and this is our last call. if you want to raise your hand and get in line to speak, please press star 9 now and then the system will prompt you when it's your turn to speak.

please send our next speaker. >> they chased groups of people around the mission trying to get home and sent them to a site on the waterfront with no way to get home and little transit access. it was an absolute fierce. i've never been more disappointed in mayor breed and our board. you said this curfew would keep us safer, i heard you. you used it to brutalize

innocent people and money that could have gone to your teachers when they're nationing hundreds of millions in budget cuts. police reform, it was 2016 and the board of supervisors voted it down. do not make the same mistake again that you made this week and in 2016. i think you can tell we have had enough. >> next speaker, please. you have up to two minutes. >> hi, madam clerk. i called in earlier and got cut off and i spoke for 30 seconds and i'm wondering if i could finish my comment. >> yes, we are awaiting your minute nocomment now. >> so my name is curtis and i just want to say that i get what a lot of the stuff that comes through still hall, things that

have a lot of grey area and sometimes the information that the general public isn't privy to, but this is not one of those situations. this was clear, cut and try. any vote allowed to defensive our executive branch the ability to enforce a curfew is inexcusable. i was heartbroken by the so-called progressive majority and i am. many of you i supported as well. you know, it get it sometimes, people miss a day and you cannot own up to. up can makyou can spend as muchn defunding or police departments. you should listen to the organizers and other people in that city and work on a community plan. thank god for the true progressive supervisors for doing your job. you really are the voice for us

and we'll hold you accountable, too, if you mess up, but for now you've been doing great. >> thank you for your comments. >> next speaker, please. welcome, caller. >> my name is joshua and i live in d6 and i agree with the majority of calls you had tonight. folks who implemented the curfew should be ashamed of themselves. not only was the curfew was the wrong move off the bat but used to detain innocent previousliers, thereby stripping their right to free speech an. after monday 64 of the 87 people arrested were released and all people arrested in close quarters during a time of pandemic. i am also for demill tarrizing and defunding the police force

but i believe that's the first step. i encourage all listeners to educate yourself on policing. there is a book by policing and ebook is free right now. i can't imagine i will have to beat protesters with sticks and be in unsafe circumstances. if i went to work and my boss told me that, i would quit on the spot. police at this point are violent workers. we shouldn't demilitarize the police but abolish policing all together. i yelled m yield my time.

>> next speaker, please. >> i'm deborah and i'm from d6 and i want to agree with much of what the last speaker said in terms of policing in san francisco. it's incredible to me that the city has signed on to eight can't wait didn't we're still seeing this type of policing, curfews being set. i was a part of a peaceful protest on sunday, where the police weren't wearing masks. they were out if force and riot gearing in my view to incite one of the.one brannished a large bn when nothing was going on and how it that no one on the sfpd has warned that blue life matters to protests? i've asked this of mayor breed, where is it mayor has used, based on the texts we've read

police sweeps in order to harass the people most vulnerable in our populations? i'm really, really angry and frustrated and amazed that people think we live in a democratic and liberal city. from the policing that i've seen in the past ten, 15 years i've lived in san francisco, it's only gotten worse is i believe in defunding police and being able to have people homeless treated by social workers and other types of services that just aren't there and i've seen a big change since london breed took over because of the organizing i do, i've had a lot of communication and engagement with the city. i want this to stop, not in my name, we have to defund the police. >> thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next sneaker, please. hello, can you hear me?

>> i'm nick glenn. i live in district 7. i want to start by thanking the youth organization and all of the black and brown organizers who lead the protests throughout the week who. i wish i knew, but i feel like my thanks -- much of the board has shown and speaking of which, i want to give a special shout out to my supervisor, norman y yee, because, dude, you can look at our district, we were not near these protests. any fears you have of looting, do not tell your constituents that any curfew would keep us safe. speaking of which, we have listened far too long to the police department telling us that, oh, they have a crisis with covid.

if that was true, they would not be putting people that are unfairly arresting so close together. if that was their priority, they wouldn't care about looting anywhere near as much. i think it is important to recognise when you are fighting a racist power, it is not enough to not be racist, you need to be anti-racist. the same goes fo for authoritarianism. for the supervisors who still serve the city, and thank you to those who oppose the curfew, show us you can be antiauthoritarian leaders. stop aligning yourself closer to people like trump. no one wants a city under danger, that's obvious. so defund the police right now. every single caller before me has said the same thing and a lot of them said it better.

but i'm one more voice amongst the many. show us you can be leaders. thank you. >> next speaker, please. welcome, caller, you have up to two minutes. >> hi, there. black people who have been oppressed by systematic racism are asking for change. the protest yesterday was an incredible display of immunity in the sanfrancisco community. police brutality should not be occurring at a protest against police brutality. this is unconstitutional and problematic. demilitarizing the police is

imperative. if you needed proof, the protests yesterday demonstrated yesterday that 50,000 protesting and exercising their rights are not a threat. the ow only danger was the polie presence. take wa wea tns and encourage cops to participate and stand with their community and train them to do the job they signed up for. ensure peace and safety in our communities. the officers who violated the constitutional rights of the group of young teenagers last night should honestly be investigated immediately. police are using their power to arrest people to take away their constitutional rights to free speech. this is not ok. i urge you, please use your power as supervisors to insist on changing the system, that is systematically racist and demand for justice for these union. youth.

>> i was moved how the murder of george floyd affected you on a perm leveperfect level. personal level. many pizzlook no further to dame and market street, the chaos in new york and leaders in the bay area. this is a time for peaceful protests, the kids did it best yesterday. it's time for mourning and time for respect and i pray the city

of st. francis has a peaceful week. matt, thank you for putting this on twitter and i say his name in peace, george floyd. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. welcome, you have up to two minutes. >> thank you, i'm rocky sharma with district 4. right now, i'm writing a letter to mayor london breed email because i see there's a huge divide between public is professional sentimentses. and i realize that london breed is overprotective of casing a curfew on the society she wants to protect from covid-19 and other crimes that may occur especially because we have seen if more of the looting happens after sunset and my question is really about, what is dividing people from converging their

thoughts together at this point because there's so much emotional response behind all of this? and that brings me to the question want is going on at the police academies that get police to have a mindset when they're on the job of doing the things that we've been watching happen and what we've been witnessing? the police academy is where education for policing starts. and so at this point, i see why there's military influence to help structure the police department in the different way, but at the same time, issue have to wonder, what's gone wrong with the training at the police academies for so many years and how can those be corrected? >> thank you, sir, for your comments. next speaker, please. >> yes, welcome caller.

>> i was at mission station and i'm one of the organizers. i'm glad i don't live if the mission because i happened to walk in the opposite direction of the poor kids that got encircle asked arrestecircled i. this helps the police to intimidate and terrorize black and brown people in our city and the antithesis of what the protests aim to change. one of the most powerful chants is we don't need you. what does that many? i urge you to not only end the curfew but to stop this.

>> we don't need you and it is incredible that we elect people through the machine as so bravely brought the public opinion this morning in her

dialogue. all of this should completely reassess the ways in which you are representing your constituents and take note from the real leaders of this community, like supervisor preston and hainey and ronen and i yield my time. >> welcome, caller. >> i actually thought the police did ok up until the last part of last night where they arrested people for no reason. we would be living in a different universe right now if they just, like, hadn't done that. there might have even been some sort of civic pride in our city for how well our police force comported itself relative to the rest of the nation. this is a big, missed

opportunity for us to just lose the threat and just arresting teenagers last night. i was in awe how well the protest had gone and how little conflict there was on the street and how well our city was representing itself, only to lose the threat in the wee hours of the night is i hope we can do better. i yield the rest of my time. >> thank you for your comment, sir. >> next speaker, please. welcome, caller, you have up to two minutes. >> we ca can hear you, welcome. >> my supervisor is mr. mandleman and i'm a teacher and i'm very disappointed that you supported the curfew because ultimately, that has been used to arrest

students who were peacefully protesting and i understand that the majority of your district is rich and affluent and i understand i you want to protect the people you know up to vote for you every single time but you're responsible for therepercussions of what that did. that's the problem with this city. >> sir -- >> you are all democrats. >> perfect, address the board as a whole, not bid members. pleaslondon breed nominated two people for the commission that should not be considered right now. all of you are democrats. it's ashame, it's an absolute shame. i yield the rest of my time.

>> the so-called bliss commission should be staffed with members of citizens of the city, with the actual people who live in the city who have to deal with the police and i upset understand about the folks being nominated by london breed but

the people appointed by the citizens of the city. and i implore the folks on the board to really think about how many times we're going to have to do this dance with the police. we take what they say at face value, history continues to reveal they never tell us the truth. we give them the benefit of the doubt and we give no one else the benefit of the doubt. >> thank you for your comments. >> next speaker, please. >> welcome, caller. >> i would like to admonish the board for a caller earlier using profanity. what is profane is to provide

money from their own pockets while sfpd gets toys to pay with. it is profane that people are living a dehumanized life where they harass and abuse them at the beheft of mayor breed. if you do not find that profane, you should be removed from your seat. defund the police. black lives matter. >> next, speaker, please. next speaker, please. >> co >> can you hear me, ok. >> i'm a resident of d6. if we had a time machine and could look at the city leadership ten years from now, the supervisors and mayor, i'm confident every single one will

have had a role in organizing yesterday's protest. their passion, determination and ability to get stuff done so far and above the capabilities of our current board. imagine the force they will with another ten years of experience. you can watch our legacy be torn to threads. the call is yours. >> next caller, please. >> i would lic like to make anor comment. the only reason why the police

did not escalate during the protest is they were outnumbered or we would have had a situation where more people experienced what the the activists and the journalists experienced last night. why weren't more resources directed to the actual threats? last night's police were getting paid $192 an hour and this is where the money is going. what technology is being used? what units are brought in from other areas and you need to be more transparent with what's going on.

it's an embarrassments. black lives matter. fuck you. >> each speaker is allowed two minutes. in this virtual world, we can't tell who's who and i didn't purposely cut the last speaker off to provide her important comments but for the next speakers, if there are, i think, we have a couple more left in the cue and we're willing to take your comments. can you send the next speaker through? welcome, caller, you have up to two minutes. >> i want to say thank you to the organizers of the no-justice, no-peace protest yesterday that i attended and to iterate i'm a san francisco resident, as well. everyone that showed up

yesterday in the midst of a pandemic, as others have said, i'm angry and disappointed in the way officials and police have handled this time and it's also frustrating that this happens on an every-day basis, that racism happens on an everyday basis. and people are just starting to talk about it.and it happens evt just in cit where are the investigations and where is the justice in all of in? the police with the tremendous budgets are the resources for social work and mental health resources. i personally don't understand the need for police presence at these demonstrations, especially because they're peaceful. and a curfew that is

unconstitutional is not a reason to use force on citizens and should not have happened. to reiterate, a few things people have said, it was time to show more progressive approach that generally, but not always, our city is known for and to set an example. and i want to know where the benefit of the doubt for these young protesters that were arrested and that's given to everyone without a mask, putting other lives at risk. there seems to be a divide there. and just to end, black lives matter. >> thank you for your comments. >> the next speaker, please partnershi.i think we have two e listeners who would like to provide public comment. welcome.

>> is that me? >> thank you for the opportunity to comment just on this procedure. when you're in the cue, it's hard to know the next speaker up and it would be great to have an advice, you're second up or third up. >> there is a prompt in the system. i have not started your time yet, but just for those people who can actually follow the system if your television is loud, it is hard to hear that delegate prompt on the phone, but i'm glad you made it through. if you don't know if it is your time to speak, say, hello, can you hear me and i will always respond. >> my comment is, i thought the protests that were lead by these students were beautiful and it

really gave the feeling of san francisco again. anone of the other things we're feeling is the cops are being paid too much money and we have more cops than we need. we have to have real reform on that. so black lives matter. we're in trouble. please help us out, supervisors. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. there are 47 listeners and one person in the cue and this is our last call. i will say if you are interested in speaking, just press star 9.

>> they failed to turn us violent as we peacefully protested and exercised our first amendment rights. be were told by leadership that this police presence was necessary to prohibit our free speech.

the system is wrong and unsalvageable and in the meantime, we must reinvest in the cultures that are competent. today's youth-lead protests that our best days are ahead of us.

>> i was disgusted to see that the mayor agreed to a curfew and endangered black and brown residents and the resources were used to lock up a child. i couldn't even sleep last night because i kept thinking about all of the children out there. who so bravely organized that march yesterday and wondering what the police were going to do to them when it got dark. unacceptable for there to be curfews endangering the children of our city.

>> clerk: next speaker, please. welcome, caller. >> hello. my name is maggie. i'm resident in san francisco. i am a doula, and i was following the protesters from my residence in district 8 and over the police scanner. i want to commend the organizers of the protests that i saw. i saw san francisco really at its best, but one comment over the scanner really stood out to

me, and that was when an officer said we could just arrest them now, and that was when it was late at night and young people were out. curfew was used as a tool to end the workday, but justice does not call it a day. justice waits it out, and if that curfew had not been in place, san francisco could really shine in this country right now as a way for people to speak up about the changes that they want to see and the police accountability that they see in their cities. i yield my time. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. welcome, speaker. you have two minutes. >> hi. my name is evan. i'm a resident of the district, in district 1. i was listening to the committee hearing earlier this week about curfew, and i'm just really sick about hearing again

and again our so called progressive supervisors that show undue deference to chief scott and to the police force when they absolutely do not deserve it. nothing they say should be taken at face value, and i just keep hearing it again and again. just earlier, my own supervisor, supervisor fewer was defending the curfew and the police force. when i see just the massive waste of money when we're seeing a huge budget shortfall and seeing hundreds of cops to enforce the curfew, and seeing our supervisors back this up, i just find it absolutely unacceptable and sickening. the real question we should be debating right now should be how much we should be cutting from the police budget when we're facing a budget shortfall and when we're cutting classes

at ccsf and when we're still in desperate need of programs like homeless services and housing. i have to say i'm pretty upset about the site that i saw at pier 50 for massive arrests, and sites like that and in chicago where people have disappeared for days just opens up the possibility of abuse and curtailment of rights and so we really need to rein stuff like that in immediately. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. i believe, mr. qu, this is the last speaker. >> hi. >> clerk: hi. welcome. >> i just called in to say that

this should not be used against people that are protesting, it would be used against those that are looting. police followed a group of about 10 or 12 kids who were on their way home. i watched them follow one kid all the way down valencia, and also, why do you have a detention center at pier 50, and how much money are we spending on that, and did you arrest people to justify that detention center? any ways, this shows that the police cannot handle more discretion. they don't need a tool, and they definitely don't need this tool. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. thank you. mr. president -- oh, we have one more caller in the queue. welcome. you have up to two minutes.

>> hi. i'm ryan, i live in district 8, and i work in district 9, have an office on the ground floor of valencia street, and i have to say, i felt more unhappy and upset about any potential damage to my business because the police were out last night. everything about the protests seemed peaceful from every vantage point, and i have been with police solidarity about the other callers who have called at this meeting and the other callers this week. this curfew is crazy and unconstitutional, and it just needs to stop. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker. i know there is one more caller in the queue. you have up to two minutes. >> thank you. i just joined this, so i might be reflecting earlier comments,

but i just want to echo that this curfew has, from what i've observed, living near market street, has done nothing but silence peaceful protesters. i was part of a peaceful protest that i know of. on tuesday night, i know that several people were arrested. i know that in the mission last night, over 60 police officers surrounded teenagers, did not let them go home? i don't understand how this is using discretion, and a response to, you know, the justification for looting and and whatnot, and i've been really unhappy with the city's response and its investment in increased police force at a time that we are very rightfully distrustful of police. that is it. >> clerk: thank you for your

comments. mr. president, i believe that is the last speaker in the queue. >> president yee: thank you, madam clerk, and thank you for the public comments. >> operator: that is correct. >> president yee: thank you for the public comments, and now, what i'd like to do is entertain a motion to table the items, that is. >> second. >> president yee: did anybody make a first? >> supervisor fewer: i make a motion to table the items. fewer. >> president yee: okay. fewer. is there a second to table? >> supervisor mandelman: mandelman. >> president yee: okay. roll call vote, please. >> clerk: on the motion to table -- [roll call]

>> clerk: there are ten ayes. >> president yee: okay. then the motion passes to table both filings. colleagues, thanks for being on this meeting, and there were many things said. one of the things that sort of stood out for me in the public comments, several people made comments around the communication between people that were out there yesterday

and with law enforcement, and it's something that i've seen lost through the decades of the our police officers were probably less engauged with the community. chief scott, i hope you heard the comments and take this as an opportunity to start engaging with the citizens that are out there. i know we used to have much more involvement with the police officers, the individuals. and i'm not talking about during work hours. a lot of times, it's just after work hours, so it's just another further announcement for you, so at this point, colleagues, this brings us to the end of our agenda. madam clerk, is there any further business before us today?

>> clerk: that concludes our business for today. >> president yee: thank you, madam clerk. as there is no further business before us today, we are adjourned. thank you, everybody. a mow e

>> good morning. i'm mary ellen carol and the associate director at the department of emergency management. first, i want to begin by thanking mayor breed for her leadership, and my colleagues here today for their continued leadership during these last few difficult days. yesterday, we implemented a curfew in san francisco. we know that many of you came out to protest peacefully, and we want to continue to urge everyone to treat everyone with respect as we deal with these issues of inequities in society. i want to thank everyone in san francisco who stayed home last night to help keep your